[Goanet] Reformat: Looking out for Derrick Rodrigues, ex-C&G Kenya [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet Reformat
>From : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PLEASE, PLEASE put me in touch with Derrick Rodrigues, husband of Dr Susan
Rodrigues, and son of John Rodrigues, ex Car and General, Kenya.

Tell Derrick that Jenny O'Toole, wife of Brian O'Toole deceased, exChairman
of C&G, Nairobi,  has been endeavouring for some time to find John and
Safira, without any success so far.   I would love to have news of them
both, and their sons and families,  as it is many many years since  I last
had contact with them.

Kind regards, Jenny O'Toole


[Goanet] A wicked tale (of two airports)

2008-07-09 Thread Philip Thomas
The challenge of devising a two-airport system for Goa may qualify as  a
"wicked" management problem. (John C. Camillus, "Strategy as a wicked
problem", Harvard Business Review, May
2008)http://custom.hbsp.com/b02/en/implicit/viewFileNavBeanImplicit.jhtml?_r
equestid=69305

In a nutshell, according to the author, "a wicked problem has innumerable
causes, is tough to describe and doesnt have a right answer". In Goa's case,
the latter arises from a lack of not only any real precedents for two
airport systems in the Indian context but also any readily available
information on analogous situations abroad (currently or historically)
which, on the face of it, are numerous. We are literally flying into
uncharted territory.

To complicate matters, Goan media (including electronic ones) seems to be
extremely uptight of late about this subject even though it is ineluctably
tied to Goa's future . Everyone seems tongue tied about managing two
airports "jointly" (even if formally under separate ownership) for some
unknown reason. To make any progress with the wicked problem, every ounce of
knowledge has to be tapped and mobilised.

For this to happen, the Knowledge Paradox has to be overcome first. Pithily
stated it reads: "Those who speak dont know and those who know dont speak."
For practical purposes it has to be elaborated slightly as: "Those who speak
dont know (the ultimate answer) and those who know (even a very little) dont
speak".

The following links provide background information for the two-airport
problem of Goa. 1. Aviation and Goa24 Jun, 2005
http://www.suchetadalal.com/articles/display/46/1474.article
2. Plane Fraud on Goa   14 Nov, 2007
http://www.suchetadalal.com/articles/display/46/2653.article
3. Goa airport: Hot Topic for a White Paper?31 Jan, 2008
http://www.suchetadalal.com/articles/display/46/2695.article
4. Goa Seeks a two-airport system21 Feb, 2008
http://www.suchetadalal.com/articles/display/46/2707.article
5. Menace of Mis-steps over Goa 's Mopa Airport22 May, 2008
http://www.suchetadalal.com/articles/display/46/2815.article
6. Wikipedia entry on Dabolim Airport (and Mopa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabolim_Airport
7. Mopa airport project bullet points
June 15, 2008
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-June/author&p
ost_id=075779

Based on the foregoing, and any information to which readers may be privvy,
individually or collectively, the "wicked issue" which can be posed (for
Goa's sake) is as follows:

1. What are your personal views on two conjoint airports (Dabolim civil
enclave AND Mopa airport) for Goa?

2. If you were perfectly in a position to do so, how would you "manage"
Mopa airport project (design, plan, finance, build etc) and its subsequent
operation as well as regulation to co-exist in a mutually beneficial way
with Dabolim civil enclave (including the latter's upgradation and
expansion) for, say, twenty (20) years into the future? Feel free to
speculate as you deem fit. Thanks.



[Goanet] Fwd: Letter to the Editor

2008-07-09 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 Subject: Migrant Vote Banks

If the BJP is really serious about Migrant Vote Banks, can they go after all
of them in Goa i.e. Margao, Sancoale, Chimbel etc and particularly the St
Inez slums/vote bank which was saved from destruction by local
politicians; because of a "missing file" in the Panjim Municipality. The BJP
should propose a bill on restricting political power to migrants for at
least 25 years and work towards reversing all migrant voter frauds via a
thorough investigation;  only then will the talk have some credibility and
of course my support.

Arwin Mesquita, UAE


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[Goanet] Food bill: April 2004 to 2007

2008-07-09 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Three cheers to Aam Admi Government for spending, rather donating including
pocketing, Rs 1,34,16,340 during April 2004 to 2007, which works out to Rs
12,252 a day. 

This appears to be cabinet decision to keep Truism Industry of Goa alive. If
not, will the chief secretary of Goa explain on this huge spending of Goa
government? 

I need not ask this question to Mr. CM for if asked he will sit to study
this problem when the exam is already over and more because he is still
studying the present turmoil that took place in Margao.
 
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] Fw: letter to editor

2008-07-09 Thread Arwin Mesquita
Dear Paulo/Soter,

Full Agree. But there is still hope and all Genuine Goans should get united
and Save Our Goa & Its Identity.  For too long we have allowed ourselves to
be intimidated from pursuing a just cause.

Regards,
Arwin

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:46:41 +0100
From: "Paulo Colaco Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fw: letter to editor
To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'"
   
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Soter, I couldn't agree with you more.

The truth is that we Goans have been ambushed in our own homeland.
We will soon be outnumbered. This is the reality. Then we will lose our
land, our culture, our language and ultimately our identity.

All I ask is not to give up. We have to continue to rise to defend our
rights.
People cannot be afraid to speak up!!

Paulo.


[Goanet] Anti-Goan Identity Movement

2008-07-09 Thread anesimo56
 Dear Arwin



Count me in as well.Once for all, let us destroy this myth of Goan Culture and 
Identity.It will save me answering questions about goa and its unique culture 
whenever i meet people from different parts of the world and Indians themselves.



Let all the down trodden Indians from those failed states and those so called 
minorities who are supposed be persecuted? and whose numbers are growing faster 
than the majority, come and settle down in Goa.They can occupy all the 
goverment and communidade land free of charge. Of course, the government can 
build plenty of housing boards as well with free elctricty and water supply.



The rich Indians can cut all the hills, convert all the agicultural land and 
have? mansions and villas with swimming pools all over. They can also bring in 
labour intensive industries as they will have plenty of manpower. The 
Government can legalise Gambling and prostitution as well.  



Stop celebrating all the cultural events. No more 
festa,zatra,carnival,shigmo,tiatros and nataks.No fish curry rice, eat roti and 
dal.No more wearing shirt,pant,shoes and dresses.



Do not immigrate to Canada,USA,Europe or Australia.They will brand you as 
Anti-National.



Then, all those Tourists-both Foreign and Indian- can experience a truely 
Unique Goan Culture!? 



Cheers

Anesimo? ?  



 



[Goanet] COMMENT: The sword saga ...

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet News
Herald, Editorial, 8 July 2008

The sword saga

There are several deeply disturbing aspects about the seizure of 17
swords in a truck parked at Moti Dongor on Thursday. The police
did a good job to swing into action swiftly, search a large number of
houses on Moti Dongor and then nab the culprits, led by Bashir
Shaikh, a furniture dealer who was also an accused in burglary and
assault cases, and who lives at Moti Dongor. However, the matter
deserves a deeper look, as there are several loose ends that need to
be unravelled.

Bashir apparently bought the swords before last month's communal
violence in Margao and the Housing Board, which he says were for
his community's self-defence. They were bought from one Jagdish Singh
from Punjab, who brought them from his native state via Belgaum. But
Jagdish and his father are both absconding, and it is important that
he must be held to learn the whole truth. For, Jagdish Singh is the
only one who can tell the police how many swords were actually bought,
and so that they know how many are still out there.

The circumstances indicate that the swords were transported from the
rented flat in which Jagdish Singh was staying to Bashir's furniture
shop, a distance of just 30 metres, in a Tata Indigo car owned by one
Faroque Shaikh, an associate of Bashir. Why use a car to travel such a
short distance, unless the load was very large?

Then, the consignment was transferred to the truck in a Hyundai Accent
car belonging to one Floyd Coutinho, who also has a criminal case
pending against him. Coutinho was also found in possession of another
Innova car, owned by Bashir's associate Mohinuddin, who bought the
truck under an assumed name, Ameen Shaikh, with a fake address in
Benaulim.

To enable Mohinuddin to buy the truck, one Irfan Kachi, a computer
hardware engineer, forged or altered an election card in that name
with Mohinuddin's photograph. The police are also on the look out for
a tax consultant, Vinod, who is believed to have helped Mohinudin to
obtain a PAN card. It doesn't all quite add up.

Were the swords moved to the truck before or after the violence in
Margao? The question is important, because miscreants burnt down
Bashir's furniture shop in the early hours of the morning following
the violence. Since no burnt swords are reported to have been found in
the debris, had they been moved before the incident?

Or is there something we are missing here?

What was the need for buying a truck under a fake name by some hi-tech
manipulation, transporting the swords by a circuitous route that seems
to make little sense, and then leaving the swords in a parked truck
atop Moti Dongor?

If Bashir was trying to arm his community members for their self
defence as he seems to have claimed, why go through all this for just
17 swords? That would mean an expenditure of tens of thousands of
rupees for each sword! On the other hand, if he was trying to abandon
some leftover swords from a larger stash, why leave the truck at Moti
Dongor, where the needle of suspicion was bound to point at the
members of his community? There are pieces missing in this jigsaw
puzzle, and until the police find them all, the full and correct
picture is not going to emerge.

In the volatile and charged atmosphere of Margao – where a simple
rumour can set off a stampede – it is vital that the entire truth
about this episode be known. The Margao Police must make it their
business to find out.

* * *

FAKE PHOTO (in Gomantak Times, July 5, 2008)

MARGAO, Could the photographs fo seized swords, published by the
media, be 'fake'?

It may be recalled that the police had seized approximately 17 "new
shiny" swords (four small and 13 big) after they stumbled upon an
Ashok Leyland truck, GA01 W5785, that was lying abandoned for several
days on the slopes of Monte Dongor, Margao.

But the photographs published surprised Margao DySP Umesh Gaonkar,
especially since he had resued to accept the fervent appeals of the
reporters to show them the swords the previous day.

When a section of aggrieved journos called on DySP Gaonkar, he denied
any suggestion that the photos had been leaked to a selective media
person and termed them as 'fake'.

Sources further state that the swords in the published photograph had
been obtained from a prominent drama company in the Margao city and
point out to the 'blunt' swords seen in the published photograph as
proof of their charges.


[Goanet] BBC E-mail: Indian workers detained in UAE

2008-07-09 Thread R . Goes
R. Goes saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

** Message **
For the info of Goanet.
Thanks.
rubygoes

** Indian workers detained in UAE **
Police in the United Arab Emirates detain about 3,000 Indian workers after 
protests, apparently over food.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7496218.stm >


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[Goanet] looking for a junior accountant preferably a Goan.

2008-07-09 Thread [Edu's World]
An oil services company located in Shuaiba is looking for a
junior accountant preferably a Goan.  Visa 18 a must.
Strong MS Office skills,especially in MS Excel,  required.

Company transport is available from areas around Fahaheel.
Those interested in the position may e-mail their CVs to
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[Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent

2008-07-09 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This message is in reply to message No: 8, dated: Wed, 9 July 2008, subject
as mentioned above. 

Selma, you are mixing up the issues. What is the relevance of the link
provided by you to Goa and Goans? Remember Goanet is meant only to write
about Goa and Goans. If this clause was not there in Goanet I would provided
you with over thousands of links to keep you busy studying  / understanding
what Indian politics is all about. It's Indian Politics, Stupid. 

So let's focus our attention on Goa,  Goans, Swords case in Margao, etc.,
without even provoking Goan Catholics to quite Goa. 

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] People's Choice Award - Michelle DeMello

2008-07-09 Thread renebarreto
Goemkars !

I share a note I received from Ms Villa Pinto , President of GOA Vancouver, 
Canada  - rb

8

8



Hi Rene


Michelle DeMello a gifted Canadian,Goan, artist has been nominated for the 
People's Choice Award 
for Visual Artist for this years Masala! Mehndi! Masti! Festival 2008 in 
Toronto. - please promote and 
support her to win the People's Choice  Award and vote on line. 

Click here to vote (scroll down until  you see Michelle DeMello under Visual 
Artist):
http://www.masalamehndimasti.com/2008/index.php?option=com_pollxt&Itemid=47

It only takes a minute. You can also check her site at
http://www.michelledemello.com/gallery.html

Michelle DeMello - create, capture & connect
www.michelledemello.com



===



Also forward it all who appreciate and support art. Your support will be our 
GOAN SUCCESS !
TOGETHER we can MAKE IT HAPPEN. 

Thank you all

rene barreto
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS 
http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/
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[Goanet] Subject : The ills Goans face!

2008-07-09 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

There is a saying: “When the cat and mouse agree, the grocer is ruined.” Goans 
are facing all ills because the Law is not being enforced, either due to 
political interference, personal gains, lethargy or ignorance. Many recent 
happenings give a sorry picture of the status the Law and order is handled in 
the State.
Take the latest case of a Government contractor “Hamza” hailing from Kerala, 
having killed and cut the body of a 14 year old maid at a Margão flat and 
buried it at Mollem in December 2006. Were the Police aware of it for the last 
one and half year? When the Kerala C.B.I. arrested the contractor and his wife 
after a sustained public outcry in Kerala, and the beans were spilled, the 
C.B.I. along with Forensic experts from Kerala; exhumed the remains, and 
investigated the Margão flat; but our Goa Law enforcement Department ignored 
the whole process. Why? But present throughout were his other seven brothers, 
all Goa government contractors.  The contractor moreover had the chic to state 
that, had the case been registered in Goa, nothing would have happened to him 
as he had the right connections. This is the impression criminals have of Goa’s 
governance. 
Take the case of the senior citizen Menino D’ Silva from Aquem, Margão. He had 
leased his open space for furniture sale to Bashir Shaikh of ‘Monte Hill slums’ 
who is arrested in the swords case. The lease had expired in February 2008 and 
he wouldn’t move out and threatened the senior citizen with dire consequences. 
In spite of complaints, the police provide protection to the Migrant Bashir’s 
sale site, until citizens forced the Municipality to raze it down. Is 
materialistic value more than human life to the Police?
The case of homicides and suicide at Kalay was another incident as a result of 
police incompetence although a similar case occurred a couple of months prior, 
wherein a husband was done to death by the wife and paramour and dumped in 
river Sal. When a wife is having illicit relationship and complains to the 
police against the husband of a threat to her life; is arresting the husband 
not an infuriating provocation? 
Where is Governance? Where is the innocent Goan to seek justice? It is very 
clear that criminals have made Goa their haven.  
 

Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Margão. 









 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Goanet] You May Already Be There.

2008-07-09 Thread Roland Francis
A boat docked in Majorda. A tourist from Mumbai complimented the Goan
fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took him to
catch them.

'Not very long,' answered the fisherman.
'But then, why didn't you stay out longer and catch more?' asked the Mumbaicar.

The Goan fisherman explained that his small catch was sufficient to
meet his needs and those of his family.

The Mumbaicar asked, 'But what do you do with the rest of your time?'

'I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, and take a siesta
with my wife. In the evenings, I go into the Tinto, have a drink with
my friends, play the guitar, sing a few songs... I have a full life.'

The Mumbaicar interrupted, 'I have an MBA from IIM and I can help you!
You should start by fishing longer every day. You can then sell the
extra fish you catch. With the extra revenue, you can buy a bigger
boat.'

'And after that?' asked the Goan.

'With the extra money the larger boat will bring, you can buy a second
one and a third one and so on until you have an entire fleet of
trawlers. Instead of selling your fish to a middle man, you can then
negotiate directly with the processing plants and maybe even open your
own plant. You can then leave this little village and move to Panjim,
or even Mumbai. From there you can direct your huge new enterprise.'

'How long would that take?' asked the Goan.

'Twenty, perhaps twenty-five years,' replied the Mumbaicar.

'And after that?'

'Afterwards? Well my Friend, That's when it gets really interesting,'
chuckled the Mumbaicar, 'When your business gets really big, you can
start selling stocks and make millions!'

'Millions? Really? And after that?' asked the Goan.

'After that you'll be able to retire, live on the beach in Majorda,
sleep late, play with your children, catch a few fish, take a siesta
with your wife and spend your evenings doing what you like with your
buddies.'

'With all due respect sir, but that's exactly what I am doing now. So
what's the point wasting 25 years?' asked the Goan.

Moral of the story:
Know where you're going. You may already be there.


Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] Rethinking the Goan 'Revolution'

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes
Rethinking the Goan 'Revolution'

(Published in the Gomantak Times 9 July 2008)

Some weeks ago, in the heat of the summer, I heralded a revolutionary
moment. As citizens took to the Gram Sabhas, I was sure, that coming on the
heels of the opposition to the Regional Plan, we could expect revolutionary
change in Goa. Via our raised voices in the Gram Sabhas, we would challenge
a State that withdraws into silence when it comes to safeguarding our
interests. We would also challenge a State that was colluding with the
forces of global capital, as they sought to enrich themselves even as they
pushed us into poverty. This challenge, would involve the assertion of the
right of the people to ultimately determine the location of projects in
their immediate locality. It would involve the assertion of people to the
recognition of their basic rights to life and livelihood over the rights of
speculative capital and obscenely disproportionate profits. It would, above
all, lay the foundation for a reorganized State marked by dialogue at all
levels, rather than diktats from the top. Reviewing events unfold however, I
have for sometime now, been contemplating if it is possible that I erred in
heralding this revolutionary moment. Was it a possible misdiagnosis, where
what we see occurring in Goa is no revolution at all, but a *fitna?*

An Arabic word used in Islamic legal thought, *fitna *has a wide range of
meanings – schism, sedition, defection, desertion- invariably used as a term
of disapproval. The disapproval was the result of Islamic jurists who viewed
negatively the crumbling of the Caliphate and the establishment of regional
and local powers. In a marvelous work on the Maratha *svarajya* however,
Andre Wink argues that we should understand *fitna* as a socio-political
upheaval, one that in the original context* *implied the 'forging of
alliances' and was the 'normal mechanism of state-formation'. In the context
that Wink examines -the Maratha challenge to the Mughal Empire - he argues
that the Maratha *svarajya* was not a rupturing of the Mughal Empire, or a
movement in protest. It was in fact a *fitna*; a re-altering of alliances
between the Maratha state and the Mughal empire, with greater powers now
being handed out to the regional power. The *fitna* was a mechanism of
state-formation that saw 'management by conflict', rather than the
'management of conflict', as the key to political success.

Like the *fitna* a revolution also involve upheaval and conflict. However,
it demands more than these aspects of instability. The Persian and Urdu word
for revolution, *Inquilab*, allows us some insight into the demands that a
revolution makes of us. *Inquilab* which signifies an overthrow has as its
root the Arabic word for heart, *qalb*. It is the constant act of the heart,
of overturning, pulsating, pumping with blood that allows *qalb* to be used
as a root for *inquilab*. *Qalb* has however, also been translated to mean
the mind, the spirit, or something that is innermost, something deep within.
All of these multiple meanings rather than contradict each other, contribute
to our understanding of what a revolution, or *inquilab* really is, or must
be. It asks us to get to the heart or the essence of a matter. It asks us to
turn things around, not only systematically, but to also view things from as
many perspectives as possible. A third meaning, is akin to the act of
ploughing, where we are exhorted to turn the soil of society, the soil of
culture, or the soil of our soul. Those of us familiar with Christian
symbolism will realize that it is only if the soil is turned, that is able
to receive the seed that heralds new life. And so it is with the revolution
that requires an overturning, not merely for the sake of opposition, but for
the creation of a new order. This new order eventually asks not for
superficial changes but for changes deep within the innermost recesses of
our soil, and likewise of society.

Goa, I would now correct myself, is in the throes not of revolution, but of
a *fitna*. Consider the fact that rather than focus on issues of equity,
what we constantly seem to get drawn to are issues of outsiders/migrants
taking over our land. If this is, as many of us keep arguing, not the real
issue, why is it that we keep coming back to the outsider issue? One way of
explaining this is to understand the events in Goa as born from the
challenge being posed to our internal elite by a national and global elite.
The social order in Goa is changing, and changing drastically. Old
hierarchies are increasingly under challenge. One has only to look at the
manner in which former establishmentarian newspapers that would block out
significant events in Goa are being forced to change tactic owing to the
arrival of the Times of India. If mining money was earlier being used to
control state and society in Goa, today this monopoly is being challenged by
money that pours in from the 'outside'. If the local elite is to continue to
re

[Goanet] Goa news for July 10, 2008

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Matka kings murder: Cops track down son in Goa, arrest him
- Expressindia.com
[Jul 8, 2008]  Mumbai, July 8 Officers of the Crime Branch
arrested Hitesh Bhagat, the son of ˜matka king Suresh
Bhagat and Jaya Bhagat, on Tuesday from Goa where he had ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Matka-kings-murder-Cops-track-down-son-in-Goa-arrest-him/333124/&cid=1226523925&ei=-0l1SOihBYzI8ASXmKH3Cg&usg=AFQjCNGliY_jrlz57zCupRms8FRTR0d5SQ

*** New Act in Goa to counter terrorism - Times of India
[19 hours ago]  PANAJI: By next tourist season, theGoa police
intends to have an Act that ensures that all guest houses and
hotels maintain details of the guests. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/New_Act_in_Goa_to_counter_terrorism/articleshow/3212649.cms&cid=1226755811&ei=-0l1SOihBYzI8ASXmKH3Cg&usg=AFQjCNGTUWYn9wS06No6IEvyaiCKHXLIIg

*** Russia warns Goa of a travel advisory - Times Now.tv
[6 hours ago]  After a spate of violence against Russians in
Goa, the Russian Government is set to warn its citizens against
travelling to Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.timesnow.tv/NewsDtls.aspx?NewsID=11206&cid=0&ei=-0l1SOihBYzI8ASXmKH3Cg&usg=AFQjCNHJ4RbN1LJDxju-NUyxJDLS_CsOqw

*** Russia warns Goa over safety of its people - NDTV.com
[20 hours ago]  In Goa, they call it the Russian Revolution, a
constant stream of Russian immigrants who have taken over
several villages in the tiny coastal state. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080056254&ch=7/8/2008%2010:38:00%20PM&cid=0&ei=-0l1SOihBYzI8ASXmKH3Cg&usg=AFQjCNHKzT8tcCY0IU8p1qEKc_0aB9_oFA

*** Goa gets new Governor - Navhind Times
[Jul 8, 2008]  ... Mr SC Jamir was on Tuesday transferred as
the Governor of Maharashtra while Manipur Governor, Mr SS Sidhu
has been transferred to Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070922&cid=0&ei=-0l1SOihBYzI8ASXmKH3Cg&usg=AFQjCNFU7OATJa5Z3NauUdNQSE3Fv3FSwQ

*** Lisbon-Goa Charters to start soon - Navhind Times
[Jul 8, 2008]  Mr Amado, presently on a visit to Goa, speaking
to ˜The Navhind Times on Tuesday evening said that a hotel
belonging to the Turismo de Portugal as well as ...
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*** Shilpa returns to Goa for The Man - Oneindia
[Jul 8, 2008]  So Shilpa discovered this week when within 28
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collecting a distinguished award. ...
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*** Cattle stolen from Karnataka, slaughtered in South Goa -
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and the vice president of Goa Youth Congress, Mr Janardhan
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*** SS Sidhu to be Goa\'s new governor - Times of India
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*** E-Library, internet for Maharashtra, Goa lawyers - Hindu
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[Goanet] Goan Kids Band

2008-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk
Goan Kids Band
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=gLB_2DYR02Q

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Re: [Goanet] June 18, references and facts!

2008-07-09 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
Yes, clearly you missed my response.

Check the goanet archives.

Best
Paulo. 

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Hi Paulo, 
 
Perhaps I missed your response to this post.  Or perhaps you missed my prior
posting.  I hope your responses to these questions will help you not repeat
your often quoted claims on Goanet.  
 

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[Goanet] Colours of the rainbow : getting in petals from another world (Lisa Monteiro, in Gomantak Times)

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet News
Colours of the rainbow : getting in petals from another world

Lisa Monteiro talks
to the Moniz family
that is working hard
to sprinkle yellow,
white and pink petals
on the roads of Curtorim and
other parts of Goa.

What better way to give back to Goa than to keep it green and grow
more plants! Igidio Moniz, originally from Curtorim, an agronomist
(expert in soil management and field-crop production) now based in
Brazil, still has his heart set here and is introducing the 'Ipe' tree
to Goa.

See [http://www.tropicalhardwoods.com/htm/tropical_hardwoods/ipe.htm]
or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabebuia]

His idea is 'to add to the landscape of already beautiful Goa'. The
Ipe flowers that come in unusual hues of yellow, white and pink will
give Curtorim a vibrant look. The seeds of the tree were sent straight
from Brazil where the tree is widely found.

"A fully-grown Ipe tree can grow upto a whopping ten metres. The trunk
of the tree has a width of 40 cms. The branches tend to spread far and
wide so there has to be a gap of six metres between each tree. Wood
from Ipe is very heavy and of high quality", says Joaquim Moniz,
Igidio's brother, based in Mumbai.

The wood is resistant to water and is very difficult to cut.
It has great durability and can withstand
adverse conditions. It will take five to seven years for the tree to
bloom. The predictable bloom cycle will last from August to October.
The tree will bloom once a year and when it does, exotic flowers will
replace all the leaves.

Says Igidio's sister Carol, "With this maiden attempt to introduce
Ipe, we want to add to the flora and fauna of Goa." How will the
family manage the finances and upkeep of the tree? "The plant has to
be looked after like a child- watered and treated. We don't expect the
municipality to help us, so we'll be coming down from Bombay often to
check on the plants. Igidio will help out when he comes to Goa every
year. Local MLA Reginaldo Lourenco is supporting us in a big way too
and he'll take care of watering the saplings," ensures Carol.

With three hundred saplings in the garden of the Moniz family, ready to be
planted around Curtorim, Rachol and Raia, it won't be long before
Goa's roads are adorned with this vibrant tree.

The Moniz family can't wait to see the effervescent colours of the
trees brighten up Curtorim. Finally what's the idea or message that
they're trying to convey? Carol's husband, Dr Linus Paul states, " We
want to express our love for Goa and create a legacy so that it sets a
precedent for others also to do it."

"We want to germinate this plant and make Goa a beautiful place for
future generations". Add Carol and Joaquim in unison.

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[Goanet] Ruins of St. Augustine Church at Old Goa -

2008-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thanks for the post.

Here is a small video clip and pics of the ruined church & convent

Video clip
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=N0dFNILkfy4


pics

Bell tower
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/1923447177/sizes/l/
 
The walls
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/448189493/sizes/l/

8 in one pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/313711422/sizes/l/



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[Goanet] Religious Riots in Margao

2008-07-09 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Ref: Religious Riots in Margao

 

From time immemorial people have been divided on the basis of religion, caste,
race and color, If you look at the history of  Israel, from the conception and
inception of Israel, there has always been hatred between the Palestinians and
the Israelis, is it any better now ? If  we think otherwise, we are kidding
ourselves.

 

Hitler, the butcher of the Jews, even after decades after his death, you think
there is no racism in Germany ? What about the KKK ? Don't they still think they
are still the superior race ? 

 

The slave trade era has long gone, are the blacks accepted as equals even today
?

 

The Mexicans and the other migrants from the poorer latin countries, they may be
US citizens but are they really treated equal at all times, the world over it's
"the black's" of Africa, India and Sri Lanka, "the brown's" of the middle east,
"the yellow's" of the far east and of course the superior "white's" of Europe,
America, Australia and New Zealand. Has anything changed over the years ?
Apartheid has vanished from South Africa, or has it really ? 

 

In India, since time of the Maharajas, the caste system that was followed, to
the post partition  riots, to the Gujarat riots, to the Mumbai train blast, have
things changed ? Will humanity really be tolerant ? 

 

With upheavals all over the world and in India, Goa and Goans lived peacefully
in total ambiance with one another and nature. The first rush of blood came
during the time of the opinion polls, Judas wanted to sell Goa to the
Maharashtrains but then we had Dr. Jack Sequeira to thank for, then started the
influx of migrants from Belgaum and Hubli, thanks to Mr. Babu Naik, for
inaugurating the vote bank of the Congress Party in Salcette, then who will
forget the official language issue, the second attempt to link Goa with
Maharashtra by the MGP, BJP and the saffron brigade, that was the first real
uprising since liberation wherein like the previous occasion Goa and Goans
stood firm and united and made Konkanni the official language, did things end
there ? No, by then with the influx turning to mass exodus (from south) of
migrants spreading to Vasco and Sanguem, there was no stopping  of the Sanguem
riots  and now it has gone so far that a casual pass to the fairer sex has led
to a couple of riots in Margao. Is this the same Goa that we lived in the 60's
and the 70's ? 

 

The BJP and the Saffron brigade will go to the limit and leave no stone unturned
to pull the Hindu majority vote on their side, where as the Congress will
continue to encourage influx of minority migrants to boost their ever rising
vote bank, the Congress knows the Christian minority is theirs for the taking,
what can the Christians do "the lesser evil is the better evil"

 

Getting back to the start of my write up, the Palestine issue, is it political ?
Yes,  It's the same as Kashmir, and are they serious to resolve it ?  No, if
these issues are resolved, what other major issues will there be for the
politicians to fool the people and pull in their votes or support, or if there
is peace who is going to buy arms from America and Europe ? 

 

The recent  Presidential nominations in the US, Obama's nomination, has the most
powerful democracy in the world and the most developed country in the world gone
on color ? If you look at it carefully the answer is there for all to see. 

 

"Politics is the last resource for scoundrels",  haven't they proved it over and
over again ? 

 

It is up to us to put a stop to all this. Be one at the next election reject
both the Congress as well as the BJP and their saffron brigade. 

 

Good governance is what Goa Needs and what Goa Wants

 

To Goa with Love 

 

 

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Re: [Goanet] June 18, references and facts!

2008-07-09 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Paulo, 
 
Perhaps I missed your response to this post.  Or perhaps you missed my prior 
posting.  I hope your responses to these questions will help you not repeat 
your often quoted claims on Goanet.  
 
You make a good point for Goans to know their history irrespective which side 
(if they had a side, or if they were born) when the events occurred..  I have 
tried reading and analyzing your perspectives.  Hope you can elucidate and 
educate us further.  Here are some questions to your statements which you keep 
repeating again and again.
 
PCD: However, that does not mean that we Goans should not know the truth about 
it and how it ended the dream of independence to so many Goans that truly 
aspire it.
 
GL:  How many Goans aspired for 'independence" (as you define it)?  Did they 
form a political party? WHO were their leaders? WHAT did they do? WHERE, WHEN 
and HOW did they struggle to get that "dream of independence"? What was 
the name of this group or political movement  or political party that sought to 
make that dream into reality? Did they have any conventions and pass any 
resolutions?  Please specifically tell us what did Froilano and Brut Da Costa 
do beyond scripting a few paragraphs (not dissimilar to what we are doing on 
Goanet).  Did they contemplate / undertake any actions like the East Timorese?  
 
PCD: If he (Nehru) was so confident that Goans wanted to unite with India (like 
he himself claimed several times) why did he deny a plebiscite on the issue?
 
GL: Who made the request for a plebiscite and what did they do to demand 
and did they struggle to get it? Was there any actions like Goans who worked 
hard to get, and succeeded in getting an "Opinion Poll"?  Did any political 
group participate in the first election in Goa under a "Plebiscite platform"? 
If not, why not?  Did the plebiscite seekers persist in their demands with 
physical actions and personal sacrifices?  Can you please educate us-Goans 
about our recent history? 

PCD: The refusal of a plebiscite took away the democratic will of the Goan 
people and ended the dream of independence of the real freedom fighters such as 
Froilano de Mello at al who died saying "Patria ingrata!" (ungrateful 
motherland).
 
GL: Froilano is often quoted by luso-Goans as making the case for independent 
Goa including the letter he wrote to Salazar.  Can you quote the exact 
paragraph in his long letter to Salazar where he made such a demand?  The 
part of the letter from Froilano to Salazar which was posted on the internet, 
was a most gratuitous script that I have read. It went on and on and on.  I 
doubt Salazar read more than three paragraphs considering it was a repetition 
of the same lap-dog theme and a total waste of time.  So, please post the 
specific part of the letter where Froilano de Mello demands "independence" for 
Goa. Thanks.  Did Froilano de Mello return to Goa after 1961 to make the demand 
and lead a struggle for plebiscite?  
 
Is not "Patria ingrata!" (ungrateful motherland) an oxymoron? This 
likely outlines the confused mindset of those who came up with this phrase and 
those who used it. Perhaps that is why they had little support.  Yet, kudos to 
these "freedom fighters". At least they realized that India was their 
motherland. Now is it not time for the children of these armchair "freedom 
fighters" to come to the same conclusion about India being their motherland, 
even though they are sitting in an easy-chair far far away?

PCD: Fait acomplait should not prevent us from knowing the other side of 
history! And Eugene, you do not need to be pro-Portuguese or pro-Indian to 
learn about the other side of history. All you need is to read!
 
GL:  Fully agree. A little common-sense analysis after the reading would not 
hurt. When one merely reads and regurgitates other peoples' writings as quotes, 
one is substituting one person's bias with another person's bias.  It does not 
prove the fact.  I hope we can keep this to a factual analysis of actual 
history.  I hope other Goans interested in history will participate.
 
After your response to these questions, perhaps the Goanetters can decide 
whether I should hold on to the Dr. Spin Award or return it back to you, as it 
may be more suitable on your mantel piece.:=))
 
Regards, GL

 
- Paulo Colaco Dias 
 
However, that does not mean that we Goans should not know the truth about it 
and how it ended the dream of independence to so many Goans that truly aspire 
it.

If he was so confident that Goans wanted to unite with India (like he himself 
claimed several times) why did he deny a plebiscite on the issue?

The refusal of a plebiscite took away the democratic will of the Goan people 
and ended the dream of independence of the real freedom fighters such as 
Froilano de Mello at al who died saying "Patria ingrata!" (ungrateful 
motherland).

Fait acomplait should not prevent us from knowing the other side of history! 
And Eugene, you do not need to be pr

Re: [Goanet] Surgeons' best patients - Goa's politicos.

2008-07-09 Thread goasuraj
Not surprising at all that intelligent, full bodied and fully bestowed Goans 
have prefered to  hand Goa to these nothing but 'interchangeable 
extremities' guys on a Silver Platter to do the two best performances that 
can be expected of them .


Vomit & S**t  on Goa's rather empty public exchequer plate? :-))

floriano
goasuraj


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To: "Goanet" 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Surgeons' best patients - Goa's politicos.



Forwarded from Arnold Noronha:


Five surgeons are discussing who has the best patients to operate on.

The first surgeon says, 'I like to see accountants on my operating
table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.'
.



But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed, 'You're all
wrong. Goa's politicians are the easiest to operate on. There's no
guts, no heart, no balls, no brains, and no spine, and there are only
two moving parts - the mouth and the asshole - and they are
interchangeable'




[Goanet] John D’Silva’s Tiatr NATOK in UK & Germany

2008-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk
John D’Silva’s Tiatr NATOK  in UK & Germany

Releasing on 2nd August at SWINDON and then after at Wembly, Croydon and 
Germany .

Presentation by KONKANI DRAMATIC ASSOCIATION ( U.K. ) & GOAN ORGANISATION in 
Germany

For dates & other contact details, please check this Tiatr Flyer and the 
comments below the pic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2652793497/


For John D' Silvas previous Tiatr Trailers etc
just  log on  youtube.com and then type/search 'johndsilva', 
at least 4 clips will come up.

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Re: [Goanet] Oil at 200/bbl - response to Chris and Roland

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Vaz



Marlon--

Your claim to victimhood in this instance is questionable since by "wacko 
environmentalists" I was referring to extreme organizations such as the 
Wilderness Society and the Sierra Club.  My earlier email was in response to 
Ralph I believe and you were not even in the picture till you responded 
later.


I trust this will clarify the issue for you.

Chris


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To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Oil at 200/bbl - response to Chris and Roland



--- Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

An otherwise well-reasoned response but for the
unnecessary gratuitous
personal invective.

-->
Chris, remember, it is you who first used the word
"whako".





[Goanet] RE: NRI Goans - Kuwait

2008-07-09 Thread Stanley Carvalho
Hi Raul!


I would appreciate if you could send me some contacts of goans interested in
a sales job. The person should have a driving license and should be on a
transferable visa. If they have a technical background (mechanical /
electrical) would be still better. Applications will be accepted till the
end of July 2008, so please let me know at your earliest.

Best Regards,

Stanley Carvalho


Re: [Goanet] Fwd: False accusations and Bigotry on Goanet.

2008-07-09 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Cecil
I want to agree strongly with what you say below about
Miguel. Among others I have corresponded with, and
also met in Goa, I regard the contribution of Miguel,
yourself and Frederick to be really outstanding,
especially attitudinally to Goa.  I appreciate such
contribuion for those in Goa, but also value it on
behalf of those of us who are now foreign nationals,
but nevertheless concerned about what is going on
currently in Goa.
Cornel 
  
> Cecil Pinto wrote> Miguel is a far better human
> being than?I will ever be and I can only hope that
> the next generation,including my sons,can somehow
> emulate his attitude to
> life,work,ethics,knowledge-and Goa.?





 



[Goanet] Ruins of St. Augustine Church at Old Goa -

2008-07-09 Thread Camillo Fernandes

Forwarded by Camilo Fernandes, Manchester - source  www.mangalorean.com

Ruins of St Augustine Church at Old Goa

 


By Ramesh Lalwani, New Delhi [ Published Date: July 5, 2008 ]

 Old
Goa has the credit of having a number of churches which have been
included in UNESCO list of World Heritage Sites. Among these are the
ruins of St. Augustine Church which was perhaps the largest one in Goa
. The Church of St Augustine was constructed by the joint efforts of 12
Augustian Friars after they arrived in Goa on 3rd September 1572 AD.
They built the church on the Holy Hill at Old Goa. The construction of
the church was completed by 1602 AD. A ban was imposed by the
Portuguese government   against the Augustines. The church and the
convent thereafter were deserted.  
The ruins of 46-metre high Bell Tower without the bell
can be seen from some distance and attract attention of visitors. Five
storied arched belfry tower built of laterite formed part of facade of
the church facing east. This tower is one of the four towers of St.
Augustine Church. The Church had eight richly adorned chapels and four
altars and a convent with numerous cells.  The ruins of chapels, altars
and extensive convent with numerous cells can be seen even today around
the tower. The bell was first   placed in the Fort Aguada Light House,
where it remained from 1841 to 1871 AD. Finally it was put in the
church of Our Lady of Immaculate Conception at Panaji in 1871 AD and it
is still in working condition. The remaining tower is one of four
towers shown in sketch below.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It is reported that  the convent was used for
missionary and charity work by the charitable institution of the
Misericordia .The church buildings finally fell due to neglect  and
resulted in the collapse on 8 September 1842. The Government
appropriated the property and sold the materials of the remains of the
church in 1843. The facade and half of the tower fell in 1931.
Archeological Survey of India has undertaken excavation
as well restoration work of this monument which has being going on for
some years now. When I last visited in January 2006 I noticed lot of
activity.
I was very keen to present here some old pictures of
this massive structure. After lot of search I located a blog by Mr.
Jose F P Lourenco - He writes "I've saved the best photograph for last.
I found this in my late uncle's chest while cleaning the musty old
attic. It's from a 'Souvenir da Velha Cidade de Goa' by the venerable
photographers Souza & Paul. The back cover of this photograph
collection reads 'Unico Representante na India Portuguesa das makinas
fotograficas Rolleiflex e Rolleicord'!" The sketch above has been taken
from same blog courtesy - Mr Lourenco.

Ramesh Lalwani, New Delhi

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Re: [Goanet] Casinos are not welcome in Goa but...

2008-07-09 Thread sasu
Matka is illegal. Hence the demand is to implement the provisions relating to 
matka in the Goa Gambling Act.

Casinos were made legal in 1995 .Hence the demand is to repeal the amendment 
made  to the Goa Gambling Act which permits casinos.

Both the provisions are in the same law.

It is wrong to deduce that matka is welcome because people are fighting casinos.

 Alcoholism and matka gambling are priority issues for women, especially, the 
rural and urban poor. We are in constant battle with the authorities to get the 
excise laws and law relating to matka implemented. 

NGOs get lots of suggestions as to the issues they should take up, but very few 
volunteers who will spare time or skills for the causes.

The primary responsibility of implementing the law lies with the government 
authorities. NGOs cannot usurp the powers of the police.
 
If the government does not pay heed to the NGOs, what is the alternative?

Sabina Martins 
For Baikancho Saad




 JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Casinos are not welcome in Goa but...
> 
> 4 Casinos boats
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2503334740/sizes/l/
> 
> I was refering to yesterday's new headline on the subject matter by the NGO 
> BAILANCHO SAAD
> 
> Yes, Casinos are not welcome in Goa but Matka gambling is fine?
> 
> Matka Gambling is welcome in Goa because it is 'aam aadmi and aam aurat ka 
> khell'?
> 
> Who we are protectecting? the Rich or the Poor?
> Is it alright that common man waste his or her hard earned money?
> 
> It looks like police & politicians go hand in hand with NGOs.
> 
> By not doing anything to stop Matka in Goa, we are helping only the police 
> and the ministers who get their huge regular hafta at the cost of aam aadmi 
> and aam aurat.
> 
> As said several times, Goa's aam aurat plays Matka too.
> 
> Check these pics where Matka bets are accepted almost under the City Police 
> noses - Vasco, Margao & Panjim
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/529588904/sizes/l/  matka
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2198076898/sizes/o/
> 
> My friend form UK recently placed a matka bet  (open house?) at a blue 
> kiosk/gadda near Police Station Panjim, opp Geeta Bakery. He won Rs.5000. 
> Next day he came to claim his money he found the gadda is closed. Next day it 
> was closed too. 3rd day young boy was found but he said 'patrao' is out of 
> station. There was naother guy who came to claim his money. One week later my 
> friend returned back to UK and he got not a single penny from the winnings. 
> Later on we found out that the person who accepted the bet from the gadda is 
> notorious for his disappearing acts.
> 
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Re: [Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent

2008-07-09 Thread Carvalho
If I am so crazy Barad, maybe you should read this latest nugged perpertrated 
by the BJP.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?sectionName=&id=4e00269e-d248-4b0c-9a20-3d72ba8eaf6b&&Headline=Amarnath+row+singes+Indore%2c+four+killed&strParent=strParentID

Please assure me that this will not happen in Goa.

All those thinking of voting and courting the BJP, think again.

selma


--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Dr. U. G. Barad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Dr. U. G. Barad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 6:20 AM
> This response is in reply to message No: 10, dated: Wed, 9
> Jul 2008 
> 
> The writer of this message appears to have become follower
> of Arun Sinha!
> 
> Best prescription: Writer must take good rest before
> posting another silly!!
> 
> Best regards,
> Dr. U. G. Barad


  


Re: [Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent

2008-07-09 Thread floriano

Dear Selma,

Reference to your original post 'Open letter to Goan Catholics',  I thought 
I saw  acute sarcasm there. Therefore my reply.
Since the thread  continues, I detect acute 'paranoia' instead of sarcasm, 
which is very undesirable for Goa and Goans.


There was a time  when the who is who in Goa (prominent Goans) came to terms 
with Gujarat's 'Godra',  when we heard remarks like " Goa is Goa", Godras 
cannot happen in Goa. But that laisez faire attitude was jolted with the 
Curchorem-Savordem riots.


There was a special meet called by the secular goans at the TB Cunha hall 
post Curchorem-Savordem riots in order to find ways and meams to heal the 
wounds created by those riots- the first of its kind in Goa (I mean riots). 
When late Ulhas Buyao took the mike, he was going into the cause of the 
riots. But he was stopped short by Aurora Couto  explaining that this meet 
was not to go into the cause of the riots but to help the victims. That is 
when I stood up and let Aurora Couto have it to the extent that I accused 
her of trying to powder the boil  which has surfaced and oozing , 
superficially  instead of getting to the roots to find out why the boil is 
there in the first place. What happened later was history which I have 
already talked about on many occasions.


What is happening in Goa, as in the rest of India, is nothing but a COMUNNAL 
MASTER MIND at work directly related to RSS-BJP in Goa on the one side and 
the Maha  appeasement of the illegal vote-bank on the other by the CONGRESS. 
Both these guys are eying the seat of power for their common goal.. to 
loot Goa. Advani showed the way that by destroying the Babri Masjid, he 
could bring the BJP to power. They want to repeat the scene since these 
people have nothing else in its place. Just the hollow, resounding tin -pot.


The solution is simple. Throw both these guys out from the soil of Goa, 
and there, everything will be alright, automatically.


There are many who will be incensed  with what I have said above. But the 
fact remains a fact. Our temples are getting desecrated. This is the sign of 
the impatience for the out of power RSS-BJP.  I would first look at the 
RSS-BJP angle before taking pot shot elsewhere. Goa has never seen any place 
of worship desecrated before in the more recent past. Why only now? And, the 
eve teasing scene etc. is  just the excuse for giving vent to the impatience 
of being out of power for the BJP and its allies. And the equally communal 
and corrupt Congress is cosying up to it to consolidate its vote-bank 
galore.


Selma, do not exhort Goans to flee Goa. They do not want to. They will 
remain firmly rooted in Goa and see the end of these two charlatans from 
Delhi along with their accomplices who are fishing in the murky waters left 
behind by these two. Goans shall not be taken for a ride, even if there may 
be a handful of them, the bonafide and true to the word GOAN.


floriano
goasuraj





- Original Message - 
From: "Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: [Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent




My dear fellow Goans. Two days ago I made a perhaps shocking post urging 
Goan Catholics to leave Goa. Now, let explain why I am so alarmed. There 
are times in our lives, when even the most secular of us cannot find hope 
in India. What little hope was left in me has dissipated reading some of 
the emails that have cropped up on Goanet.


The swords are an extremely dangerous precedent. Tensions are already high 
in Goa. There is a virulent fear that we are being over-run by migrants. 
There are a number of extremist groups operating on both sides of the 
aisle. I hope and pray that another Gujarat is not in the offing in Goa.


My fear is this :the next time, a pretense such as "eve-teasing", a term 
coined wholly by Indians and used only in the Indian subcontinent, to 
spark off a communal riot, then rest assured someone will spot a sword 
being wielded in the crowds. Whether this sword is real, mythical or the 
figment of someone's alcohol-fueled imagination will be the debate only 
after mass mayhem has ensued as a result of this sighting. Like I said 
there is always the hope that things will change in Goa and India, but 
that hope grows more distant everyday.



selma







[Goanet] Goan Identity

2008-07-09 Thread Roland Francis
Mario,

While you question and deny a Goan Identity, I would like to direct
you to my blog where I have copied FN's review of a book by Dr J
Clement Vaz. Probably posted on Goanet a while ago though I got it
from a friend in Sydney, Australia just yesterday.

In fact I would encourage you to buy the book. It might make up for
all the years that the Portuguese kept you away from Goa. And it may
also  have the effect of wiping away all the cobwebs of your mind that
accumulated in your years in Jubbalpore and Toledo.

http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com/

-- 
Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] 2008 International Goan Convention starts in Toronto in 14 days

2008-07-09 Thread [Edu's World]
Hi,


To go to the Convention website:

http://2008goanconvention.com/

If you want to go directly to the Songbook:

http://2008goanconvention.com/inviter.php



Thanks!
Sgd./-
Francis
Rodrigues,
GNAT Canada
President.
http://2008goanconvention.com/


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[Goanet] COCONUT WATER

2008-07-09 Thread [Edu's World]
*COCONUT WATER

Here is some information about Coconut Water:*

*'It's a natural isotonic beverage, with the same level of electrolytic
balance as we have in our blood.
It's the fluid of life, so to speak.'

During the Pacific War of 1941-45, both sides in the conflict regularly used
coconut water - siphoned directlyfrom the nut - to give emergency plasma
transfusions towounded soldiers.

Most coconut water is still consumed fresh in tropicalcoastal areas - once
exposed to air, the liquid rapidlyloses most of its organoleptic and
nutritionalcharacte ristics, and begins to ferment.

Coconut Water is More Nutritious than whole milk - Lessfat and NO
cholesterol!

Coconut Water is More Healthy than Orange Juice - Muchlower calories

Coconut Water is Better than processed baby milk- Itcontains lauric acid,
which is present in humanmother' s milk

Coconut water is naturally sterile -- Water permeatesthough the filtering
husk!

Coconut water is a universal donor-- Its identical tohuman blood plasma

Coconut Water is a Natural Isotonic Beverage - The samelevel we have in our
blood.

Coconut water has saved lives in 3rd world countriesthru Coconut IV.

Coconut water is the very stuff of Nature,biologically Pure, full of Natural
Sugars, Salts, andVitamins to ward off fatigue... and is the next wave
ofenergy drinks BUT natural!', according to MortinSatin, Chief of the United
Nation's Food &Agriculture Organization.

Coconut water contains more potassium (at about 294 mg)than most sports
drinks (117 mg) and most energy drinks.

Coconut water has less sodium (25mg) where sportsdrinks have around 41mg and
energy drinks have about 200mg!

Coconut water has 5mg of Natural Sugars where sportsand energy drinks range
from 10-25mg of Altered Sugars.

Coconut water is very high in Chloride at 118mg;compared to sports drinks at
about 39mg.

Data is based on a 100ml drink*

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[Goanet] One held for pornography in Bicholim

2008-07-09 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye

BICHOLIM JULY 9: The Bicholim police today arrested a person in
connection with the pornography under the IT Act.

According to the available information one Nausir Banker (62)
originally from Mumbai but presently staying at

Shantaram Nagar Bicholim was held under IT Act 6.

Banker who was earlier working with Vinus chemicals in the Industrial
Estate Bicholim started sending prone photos

and contents by using fake E-mail ids of some girls working in the company.

Following a complaint by the Director of Vinus Chemicals, Zubin K
Gandhi the Bicholim DySP, Boset D'silva investigated the case and

arrested Banker. His computer and other material was also confiscated
from the flat.

He was later remanded to eight days police custody. DySP, D'silva is
further investigating the case.


[Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent

2008-07-09 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This response is in reply to message No: 10, dated: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 

The writer of this message appears to have become follower of Arun Sinha!

Best prescription: Writer must take good rest before posting another silly!!

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] GSCA hails Dempo!

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet Sports
Goa State Chess Association hailed Mr. Srinivas Dempo for naming Double 
Under 8 Girls World Champion Ivana  Furtado as Goodwill Ambassador. 'Ivana 
is a truly deserving candidate and she will make proper use of the faith 
reposed in her by the Dempo group' announced her coach Dronacharya awardee 
Raghunandan Gokhale. Ivana's next tournaments include the Asian Youth Chess 
Championships in Teheran and the World Schools Chess Championships in 
Singapore.


GSCA President Salgaocar hoped that 'more corporates will come forward to 
support upcoming Goan chess players'. In the recent past, besides Dempo 
group, Monginis and Borax Morarji have supported the efforts of the young 
developing stars. Hopefully, 'the trend will continue as our players will 
continue to make a mark on the national and international scene', he added. 
'We have other youngsters like Asian  Schools Under 11 Gold Medallist Cyrus 
Perreira and State Champion Anurag Mhammal who could also use some financial 
support,' Salgaocar mentioned.


(Source  - Sameer A. Salgaocar, AICF Vice President) 



[Goanet] Delhi Accommodation - a query

2008-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk

Thanks toll all (8 feedbacks received so far)

Just remembered that I posted an information in July 2006 about the New Goa 
Niwas at Delhi.

don't know if this project is completed or not..

check this out

Goa Niwas (spacious new guest house coming up soon)
Foundation Stone for new Goa Niwas at Chanakyapuri in New Delhi laid on July 5.
 CM Rane and PWD Minister Dhavlikar and Union Minister for Urban Development 
Jailpal Reddy etc were present
 
-The main feature of the project will be it’s Goan architecture with Mangalore 
tiles roofing etc
-The total area of the building is 4100sqmtrs including the basement.
-It is of ground plus three structure building.
-Ground floor with main entrance, lobby, shops, Gym and kitchen/dining and 
small swimming pool with landscape.
-Basement with parking, generator, storage, laundry ec
-First and second floor of the building with rooms with attached toilets and 
four dormitories.
-Two of the four dormitories  are of 60 sqmtrs each  and the other two of 
35sqmtr each.
-The capacity of the dormitory is of 40 beds.
-There are 20 rooms accommodating 40 beds on first and second floor
-Third floor is exclusively for VVIPs consists of five suites comprising of 
living, dining and bedroom with attached toilets.
-Total estimated cost of the project is Rs. 9 crore
 
JoeSays: 
What is Goa Niwas or for that matter Goa Bhavan or Goa Sadan ?
It is nothing but a hotel/guest house exclusively for Goans in other states of 
India. 
It is run and managed by Goa Government
We have, at present, one in Bombay (near Juhu) and one in New Delhi near Lodi 
Gardens.
 
How one can book accommodation there ?
Before you leave Goa, you will have to book it though Under Secretary 
(Secretariat) by filling in the prescribed forms (Don’t know if this has 
changed now as we used to book about 15 years ago) They have a reservation 
chart there and book/reserve accordingly. One can book pvt. attached rooms or 
dormitory (as per the availability).
Tariffs are generally low. 
When we booked pvt rooms in both Goa Sadan and Goa Bhavan, on arrival, we never 
got our pre-booked  rooms and were give dormitory instead. When asked, we were 
told the pvt. rooms were taken by top Govt. officers (and this was not true 
most of the times).
 
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[Goanet] The Swords are a dangerous precedent

2008-07-09 Thread Carvalho

My dear fellow Goans. Two days ago I made a perhaps shocking post urging Goan 
Catholics to leave Goa. Now, let explain why I am so alarmed. There are times 
in our lives, when even the most secular of us cannot find hope in India. What 
little hope was left in me has dissipated reading some of the emails that have 
cropped up on Goanet.

The swords are an extremely dangerous precedent. Tensions are already high in 
Goa. There is a virulent fear that we are being over-run by migrants. There are 
a number of extremist groups operating on both sides of the aisle. I hope and 
pray that another Gujarat is not in the offing in Goa. 

My fear is this :the next time, a pretense such as "eve-teasing", a term coined 
wholly by Indians and used only in the Indian subcontinent, to spark off a 
communal riot, then rest assured someone will spot a sword being wielded in the 
crowds. Whether this sword is real, mythical or the figment of someone's 
alcohol-fueled imagination will be the debate only after mass mayhem has ensued 
as a result of this sighting. Like I said there is always the hope that things 
will change in Goa and India, but that hope grows more distant everyday.


selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Fw: letter to editor

2008-07-09 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
Soter, I couldn't agree with you more.

The truth is that we Goans have been ambushed in our own homeland.
We will soon be outnumbered. This is the reality. Then we will lose our
land, our culture, our language and ultimately our identity.

All I ask is not to give up. We have to continue to rise to defend our
rights.
People cannot be afraid to speak up!!

Paulo.

-Original Message-
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>Sent: 09 July 2008 09:03
>
>Special status for Goa?
>
>Every time goans rise to defend their rights they are condemned as
anti-national, anti-development,
>pro-portuguese conspirators and now even branded as naxalites. 
>Goa definitely needs a special law to guarantee permanent protection of its
precious natural
>resources, fragile ecosytems and unique identity.
>
>-Soter D'Souza
>Socorro

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[Goanet] 18 Goa -Delhi Trains per week

2008-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk

Re: Delhi Accommoation - a query
Believe me or not, I received in all 7 feedback in less than 24 hrs
Thanks to you all.

Now, I thought I would share this following information with you, hope it would 
come handy to you one day.


Goa -Delhi Trains

-There are  about 18 trains to Delhi per week from Goa (all stop at Margao)
of which 8 originating from Goa - 1 from Margao and 7 from Vasco.

- Frequency: A.Goa Express (7), B Mangala (7), C. Rajdani (2), D. Goa Sampark 
(1 soon 2) & E. Kerala Kranti (1)

- Runs on:  A daily, B Daily, C Wed/FRI,  D Tue & E. Sat

-  Dep.Goa Timings B. 01.30, E. 03.30, C&D 12.30, A.15.10
 - Arrival Delhi A. 06.25,  E.13.10,  B. 13.20,  C. 18.50, D. 22.50

- Travel time varies i.e.  C. 31hrs, B. 36, A 39, D 34, E 32

- Dep Delhi: E 14.00hrs Wed,  B 9.20 daily,  A 15.00 daily,  D 07.30 Sat. & C 
11.05 Tue/Sun
-Arrival Goa: E 22.00, B 20.20, A 05.10, D 15.00 & C 14.40

- Cheapest ticket sleeper  around Rs.550 whereas III AC about 1500 , Rajdhani  
2100

- All tickets can be booked  online Credit cards and most Debits cards also 
accepted
http://www.indianrail.gov.in/
There is usually a transaction fee of Rs.10-15 by the banks.
Again, there are I-Tickets and E tickets.  Where tickets are delivered to your 
home or tickets can be printed at home (like E-ticket by air). One can even 
book ticket few hours before the departure. Wait list tickets can also be 
booked online.

Goa Express: Goa to Delh- Plenty ticket available in July/Aug but Delhi-Goa 
seems fully booked. Strangely, Delhi-Goa  (Sampark) plenty tickets available.  
I guess not many people are aware of this once in a week train.
Bur Goa Sampart arrive Delhi very late aroudn 2300hrs, not a good choice for 
the first timers.

- Most trains stop at Agra Cant.

Will update this info as and when new trains/Frequencies are added e.g. 
Rajdhani, Goa Sampark etc

Other relevant info:
Each train has about 16 bogies or compartments.
Of which 1 could be Class I, 1 II, 2 III,  7/8  Sleeper,  2  General, 1 pantry 
etc

Each compartment capacity is about 75 seating/sleeping but  unreserved general 
compartment  there is no limit – tickets are never sold out. Each such 
compartment could carry upto 250 with some people standing one legged etc

Always take care of your things including your foot wears. They can go missing 
just like that.  Once I was telling everybody to take care of their things etc, 
guess what? My shoes gone missing, thank God I always carry a pair of sleepers.

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[Goanet] Accommodation in Delhi

2008-07-09 Thread Ana Maria de souza-Goswami
This is regarding the above.  as far as I know there is Goa Sadan on Amrita 
Sher Gil Marg.  Also Y.W.C.A. International Guest House on Parliament 
Street.


One needs more than one day to visit Agra/Fatepur Sikri and more than two 
days to visit Delhi. Best way is to hire a car, or go by train on one day 
and return by next evening.


Ana Maria deSouza-Goswami 



[Goanet] Xavier's News and Features, E-Service (XNFES): Common Proficiency Test for CA

2008-07-09 Thread St. Xavier's College - Mapusa - Goa - India - 403507 (TEL: 0832-2262356 WEBSITE: www.xavierscollege-goa.com)


XAVIER'S NEWS & FEATURES E-SERVICE (XNFES)


Common Proficiency Test for CA


Coaching for Common Proficiency Test (CPT) will be provided by St. 
Xavier's College, Mapusa,   in   the   following   subjects:  (i) 
Accounting (ii) Mathematics  &   Statistics

(iii) Business Law & (iv) Economics

Any student who has passed XII std. (Arts, Science or Commerce)  is 
eligible to appear for CPT, to be conducted by the Institute of 
Chartered Accountants of India in the month of December, 2008.


The coaching classes will be held on all the week days from 2.30 p.m. 
to 5.30 p.m. in the College, in the months of July, August and 
October 2008 (October vacation).


All those students who desire to enroll for the same may contact the 
C.A. Programme Coordinator Mr. B. Rajasekhar on Phone No.2262356.




[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Afghan Bombing Sends Stark Message to India: With Power Comes Risks

2008-07-09 Thread rubygoes
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INTERNATIONAL / ASIA PACIFIC | July 9, 2008
Afghan Bombing Sends Stark Message to India: With Power Comes Risks
By SOMINI SENGUPTA
India's prime minister, Manmohan Singh, said his administration is close to 
finalizing a pact that would allow India access to nuclear fuel and technology 
on the world market.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/world/asia/09india.html?ex=1216267200&en=a67435c0d2d90c0b&ei=5070&emc=eta1




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[Goanet] BBC E-mail: Treasure found in Calcutta home

2008-07-09 Thread rubygoes
rubygoes saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

** Message **
Gday Goanet,
Here's a nice yarn about the Birla Group.
Nice loot.
Thank you,
rubygoes


** Treasure found in Calcutta home **
Hundreds of rare Indian gold coins and priceless artefacts are discovered from 
the home of one of India's richest families.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4204228.stm >


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[Goanet] Kasargod girl's skeleton found

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet News
Kasargod girl's skeleton found
Kasargod, DHNS:

 The skeleton of Safia (14), who was brutally murdered by her employer
C K Hamsa on December 16, 2006 in an apartment in Goa, has been
traced.

The crime branch team, comprising Calicut Medical College Forensic
expert Dr Sherley Vas, Police Academy Chief Biologist Annamma John
reached Goa on Saturday searched the location where Safia was buried,
based on the information provided by Hamsa. They found the skeleton,
hair, dress and some parts of body.

The Kasargod police told reporters that the experts have reportedly
identified three stab injuries in Safia's thigh.
Safia's father Moidu, relatives and members of Safia Missing Action
Committee (who staged dharna for over 80 days demanding justice)
besides the police from Goa were present when the skeleton was
unearthed.The police have also seized the car used for carrying
Safia's body to bury.

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul72008/state2008070777403.asp


[Goanet] ‘Last Bus to Vasco’ - By Brian Mendonca

2008-07-09 Thread [Edu's World]
'Last Bus to Vasco' was written on a bus journey from Panjim to Vasco in
1997. In the early days when this poem was written, the last bus to Vasco
from Panjim bus stand used to leave Panjim as early as 8 pm. Whatever one's
business in Panjim or beyond the river Mandovi one was always anxious to
make it in time to catch the last bus home to Vasco – or risk getting left
behind.

http://lastbustovasco.blogspot.com/2008/05/last-bus-to-vasco.html

*Last Bus to Vasco*


*-Brian Mendonca*
**
I
Cool zephyrs of night
Under the canopy of the western sky,
Everything dissolves
Places, smells, memories, distances.
Orion smiles in benevolence.
Full-busted fisherwomen urge their *pantulems* onto the bus.
"*Maincho gho*" seethes the conductor.

Mandovi bridge lights kiss me farewell
As I gaze down,
From Bambolim slope.
"2213," "PAGE ME" scream the hoardings.
"*Fulancho Khuris*," spires doffed in benediction
Matrimandir of the faithful.
"O Lord, hear my prayer"
"Siridao Siridao, *vos vos*."

Ancient palm trees, lonely sentinels
Penetrate the inky darkness.
"Kingfisher Bar and Rest."
Shrouds the brooding Goa Velha cemetery.

II
Zuari crossing
Sodium lights shimmer on the Styx.
Tourists whistle; "*Iea maray*!"
Hurry up please it is time.
Here time stands still.
Unlike the stormy Krishna, or the restless Jamuna
The lambent Zuari
Receives the prow of the ferry boat
In Cosmic harmony.
Must call home. It's late.
"All-lines-in-this-route-are-busy. Please-call-after-some-time."

III
Crossroads Cortalim
Watermelons galore.
"*Ieta?*"says the matador van.
9.05 pm.Red tail lights flicker,
Cavalcade of vehicles head for home.
DEA, MH, GAO-2
*Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam.*
The rim of land parleys with the river.
Goa Shipyard. Pothole crater ahead!
Where tyre wheels measure
The undulations of social interactions.
KTC bus stand, Vasco.
My two-wheeler sulks at my inattention.
On the road once more,
The short ride home . . .
To Goa, my own Ephraim.

*Glossary **pantulem: *(Konkani) wicker basket; *maincho gho: *(Konk.
derogatory); *Mandovi: *River in North Goa; f*ulancho khuris: *(Konk.) Cross
of flowers, Bambolim; *Matrimandir: *M*e*ditation centre, Auroville,
Pondicherry; *Siridao: *village in central Goa; *vos: *(Konk.) go;
*Styx: *(Greek
myth) river of the underworld; *Z**uari: *River in South Goa; *Iea
maray: *(Konk.)
Let's go; *Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam: *(Sanskrit) 'All creation is one family';
*KTC: *state-owned Kadamba Transport Corporation; *Ephraim: (*Biblical
allusion) *John 11.54 *Desert town where Jesus stayed

My next poem 'Requiem to a* Sal*' was written in Mangor Hill in 1987. The
poem is about the timber-providing *Sal* tree which is much sought after for
construction purposes.


*Requiem to a Sal*

*-Brian Mendonca*

They came
Armed with axes
And split its bark with gashes
In a frenzied madness

The glistening blade
Laying bare
The oozing gum, the ebbing life . . .
Stroke after stroke
They hack relentlessly,
Until,
With a mighty shudder
What was, ceases to be

'New building coming up' -- they said.

O hear my cry piteous Mankind!
As years roll by, and you multiply,
Will we be bereft of Nature's supply?

REST in Peace, dismembered One,
Condemned to oblivion by thankless sons.
Your sprightly shade, your laden boughs
The carefree twitter of morning birds.
Forgotten.

We will miss you.

The world is too much with us!
Alas Man! You exact too high a price
To fashion yourself shelters through ruthless device.

-- 
Have a nice day
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[Goanet] Catholic Charity Trust Celebrates Silver Jubilee And St. Thomas Day

2008-07-09 Thread Goanet News
Catholic Charity Trust Celebrates Silver Jubilee And St. Thomas Day

By SAR NEWS

AHMEDABAD, Gujarat (SAR NEWS) -- Snehadeepam, a public charitable
trust of Kerala Catholics under the St. Ignatius Loyola Parish Church
in Ahmedabad, celebrated the organisation's silver jubilee, July 6.

Archbishop Andrews Thazhath of Thrissur in Kerala, who was the chief
guest at the celebration, applauded the services of Snehadeepam.

"Though I am coming here for the first time, I feel at home with your
love and hospitality. Malayalis here are a very loving people," he
said.

The occasion also saw the celebration of the feast of St. Thomas.

The twin celebrations started with a solemn procession from St.
Ignatius Loyola Church to the Diamond Jubilee Auditorium of St.
Xavier's Loyola School on the same campus.

Volunteers carried a big statue of St. Thomas and many ornamental
umbrellas in procession.

Jesuit Archbishop Stanislaus Fernandes of Gandhinagar and a dozen
Malayali priests from the four dioceses of Gujarat joined the
procession.

The Holy Kurbana (Mass)in the auditorium was led by Archbishops
Thazhath and Fernandes.

Archbishop Thazhath spoke about the significance of jubilee in the
Bible in the context of Snehadeepam's celebrations and also the feast
of St. Thomas.

"St. Thomas not only came to South India and spread Christianity in
Kerala and Tamil Nadu, but has also gave us the greatest expression of
our faith, 'My Lord and My God'," Archbishop Thazhath said.

The Jubilee Hall was packed with about a thousand people from St.
Ignatius Loyola Parish and the neighbouring St. Xavier's Parish at
Navrangpura, and other parishes of Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar.

Archbishop Fernandes recalled his long association with the Malayali
Catholics in Gujarat while he was the parish priest of the Camp Parish
and as the bishop of Ahmedabad for 17 years.

He then became the archbishop of Gandhinagar Archdiocese in 2002.

Archbishop Fernandes stressed the need for Christian life to be
centered around Christ and the unity of all Christians -- professing
one faith, baptism and Holy Spirit.

Speaking at the civic meeting which followed the Kurbana, Bishop
Macwan of Ahmedabad congratulated Snehadeepam on the 25 years of its
service to the Church and society.

"In South India, St. Thomas preached Christ mainly in Kerala, and St.
John de Britto did the same in Tamil Nadu. They shed their blood for
the faith," he said.

Bishop Macwan recalled Jesus's words: "Unless the grain of wheat falls
to the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces
much fruit," (John 12, 24). "

"We are facing a systematic persecution in Kerala, Gujarat and other
places in India. We will be able to face these challenges, like the
persecution and the anti-conversion Bill in Gujarat, by remaining
united in faith and making sacrifices and even dying for our faith.
Wherever there is persecution, the Church will grow," said the
prelate.

President of Snehadeepam, Advocate P. T. Chacko gave a report of the
various activities of the Trust in social, educational and religious
fields.

In his presidential address, Archbishop Thazhath appreciated
Snehadeepam for promoting co-operation and unity of faith among
Christians. "We are all one in Jesus Christ," he said.Snehadeepam
honoured eight Jesuit jubilerians with a shawl and a gift pack each.

The jubilerians are Fathers Alex Thannipara, Joseph Thomas, Joseph
Mattam, Joseph Ovelil, Ishanand Vempeny, Jose Changanacherry, K.C.
Thomas and Varghese Mannarkulam.

The civic function included prize distribution for school children for
their outstanding performances in studies and also for the
competitions held on the occasion of Snehadeepam jubilee. Thazhath
also released a souvenir.


[Goanet] Fw: letter to editor

2008-07-09 Thread soter
Special status for Goa?

Where is our Goa heading? To a life controlled by drugs, booze, sex, swords, 
daggers and cops? There is little doubt in the common man's mind that criminals 
are lurking at every street corner, at construction sites, bars, discotheques 
and even with politicians. Recently, the guardians of the law have themselves 
been found stealing from duty free shops at the airport. or taking contracts to 
eliminate people. Times have definitely changed but let us not blame Bush or 
the U.S. for the escalation in the incidents of crime and communal clashes in 
Goa. 
Successive governments in Goa since liberation have done nothing but divided 
Goans on basis of caste and religion. The various policies of the governments 
have imported trouble makers from other parts of the country into the State and 
done away with healthy social practices and relationships. The Communidades 
have ben robbed of their land and the laws have been repeatedly amended to 
accomodate crime and disease by calling it development. Even Housing Boards 
were set up to create housing for migrants and push out the goans. Scooundrels 
have not only been encouraged to buy land but also dig up the earth and export 
the minerals for huge profits. Every time goans rise to defend their rights 
they are condemned as anti-national, anti-development, pro-portuguese 
conspirators and now even branded as naxalites. Goa definitely needs a special 
law to guarantee permanent protection of its precious natural resources, 
fragile ecosytems and unique identity.

-Soter D'Souza
Socorro


Re: [Goanet] Anti-Goan Identity Movement

2008-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
I can understand the dilemma that Arwin is going through. It stems from the  
simple fact that he cannot clearly define what he means by his unique Goan 
identity, and understand what good its preservation does him. Perhaps, he also 
feels a modicum of discomfort in the realization that he is as much an Indian 
as he is a Goan, that there are many Goans who have less things in common with 
him than with non-Goans - things that have to do with religion, language, 
music, food, tradition, habits, rituals, customs, etc.

To defuse the fog he has created by fixating on preservation of his unique 
identity, he has to do nothing more than ask himself the following two 
questions:

1. Can he become a better Goan by separating himself from non-Goans?

2. Can Goa achieve greater prosperity by being insulated from the rest of India?

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>The only dilemma I face is what do I answer people when they normally say >to 
>me (A) Goa & Goans are significantly different from rest of India one
>example is Goa stands out for Tourism exceptionally vs. other states (B)
>What do I call myself now that there is no such thing as Goan Identity. My
>answers would most probably be (A) Its all mythical and there is no basis
>and (B) I now call myself a "Jolly Indian". Any suggestions from you are
>welcome.
> 


[Goanet] Daily Haiku #159

2008-07-09 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY HAIKU #159:
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WAIL TALE
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by FR


chronic moaners
are grown men,
but best mourners
are groan women!


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