[Goanet] NGOs: Where do you get your money from?
The column below appeared in OPinionatED - Herald, Goa on 8th August 2008 -- NGOs: Where do you get your money from? By Sujay Gupta The fallout of the Ahmedabad and Bangalore blasts and the upping the ante on strengthening our defences against terrorism and terrorists, has had another very positive fallout. The Union Finance Ministry, has finally upped the ante in pushing for a legislation which will make it mandatory to scrutinize the sources of funds of each and every NGO operating in the country. While this has been a pressing need in its own right without any external factors, it must be borne in mind that the need for this legislation was sparked off after a report from the offices of the National Security Advisor, that some funds channelized to NGO's from abroad, were routed to terrorist organisations and even moré alarming, were being traded in the stock exchange. While these are serious charges, the demand for independent scrutiny of funding patterns for eight lakh NGO's in the country, obviously including our own Goan NGO's, couldn't have come a day earlier. Even if we push the terrorism angle on the backburner-purely for arguments sake- since the larger issue of transparency is equally important here, the veil of almost complete secrecy of the manner of funding and running these NGo's has to be lifted. No longer can NGO's get away, by saying that they are accountable only to their donors or funders. They are not. They are responsible to the civil society they work for or claim to work for. If NGO's demand accountability from government and corporates, if they lead agitations-rightly or wrongly, call for strikes and closure of factories, if they make lofty judgments-for instance, demand that all mines in Goa should shut down, or demand to know if requisite pollution control and forest permissions have been obtained, then they should subject themselves to similar scrutiny. All NGO's aren't illegal or fraudulent. But two important criteria that should govern them are that they are supposed to be independent from government and they are organisations not meant for making profit. They are also expected to be value-based But how do we check that? And who checks that? Since the Companies Act does not cover them, it is not required of them to file annual reports with the Registrar of Companies. They are not part of the Government and, hence, the Comptroller and Auditor General of India does not audit their accounts. The irony is that for long, people with impeccable credentials whose knowledge, expertise and depth on serious issues concerning our societies, have raised the need for a serious investigation into the sources of funds for NGO's. Surprisingly these voices have seldom been heeded by rabble rousing activists, quick to pressurize and blackmail corporates, but very slow in showing how their money came from. There years ago R. Vaidyanathan, then professor of Finance and Control of IIM Bangalore, one of the most respected educationists wrote an article in The Hindu entitled 'NGO's should practice what they preach'. I quote just one telling paragraph from that piece, We would rather have NGOs create a self-regulatory body, which is a creature of their own and to which they are accountable. They can co-opt eminent citizens in this body. This becomes important since it is perceived that some of the NGOs ….are using the NGO banner for blackmailing well-functioning corporate and government entities View this quote in the existing Goa situation, and you'll realise how true this is. Professor Vaidyanathan is no corporate czar or a mine owner, so there should be no harm for NGO's to take his views seriously, isn't it? Meanwhile, there is a need to gently nudge those who feel that NGO's are patron saints of society and deserve a hallowed position. Here are some facts. According to an audit report of the Union Finance Ministry, 80% of India's NGO's operate from the homes of those who run it, close to the same percentage receive direct funding from abroad and a mere 8% are completely credible and fulfill all norms. This is a shocking indictment of the sector. Even if these figures are challenged and the percentages-for arguments sake- are reduced by half, the situation is still very alarming. While funds is an important issue, their functioning needs to be scrutinized as well. One standard tactic used by a leading Goan NGO, is to have influential people including well known architects on board or as close associates. The formula then is simple. Projects handled by these people are unchallenged, even though they may flout laws, violate CRZ rules and panchayat provisions while the same NGO openly campaigns against the same violations in other projects where their interested parties do not have an involvement. This is called selective targeting. For example a leading architect, who is member of this NGO, has built the sprawling bungalow of a well known heart surgeon of Delhi in
[Goanet] Environmental degradation in Goa
Hi Goanetters, This is my first post to Goanet since I joined 2-3 years back. Hopefully I should be contributing more and more now onwards. I think Goans are highly enlightened (compared to people in other states) when it comes to environment. We do have a lot of organizations that are active in this field. But lately, it seems like the focus has been only on construction activities (that do seem to be rampant in Goa nowadays). And as a result of this, other issues may have been put on the backburner. For instance, the Mhadei river issue. It appears that the issue is on the back burner as far as the Government of Goa is concerned while the Government of Karnataka is ready to divert the water of the Mahadayi into the Malaprabha. It also appears likely that the Government of Karnataka may now go ahead with the entire project. The consequences for Goa could very well be fairly drastic. Unfortunately, I am sure that majority of Goans do not even know that the Mahadayi and the Mandovi is the same river! And not enough efforts have gone into spreading the awareness. There is a nice blog site (http://mohan-pai.blogspot.com http://mohan-pai.blogspot.com/ ) by Mr. Mohan Pai which showcases the beauty and the importance of that river. Then we have the contamination of ground water (and not just in the mining areas) and use of plastic. I don't understand how it helps to ban plastic bags below a certain thickness when all plastic bags create the same nuisance, whether for the environment and/or the countless birds/animals those have fallen prey to this menace. I don't think working towards the resolution of such issues should be a detriment towards the economic development of the state. We need to have a concentrated effort from all the agencies that can contribute - government, NGO's and even the local populace - before it is too late. Thanks Regards, Prasad Vaman Raicar P Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. Spread environmental awareness. Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. www.wipro.com
Re: [Goanet] Goan Crab Mentality
Goan Crab Mentality The crab mentality thing has been on for a couple of days now, people do you have a clue to what you are talking about, I don't know who started this crab mentality stuff but I am sure he too did not know what he was talking about. I will disperse your doubts with just a few examples. 1) Get a hundred odd crabs (there are different types of crabs) may be just a single type or mixture of different types and leave them in the open and see what happens, the answer is plain and simple they will run as fast as their claws can carry them in all direction (mostly sideways) they will try to avoid collision and try to get to any source of protection at the earliest, what mentality is that ? That is self preservation or self survival and tell me you all wise guys which species does not have that in them. 2) This time try something different, put the hundred crabs in a container with rough sides where they can hook their claws on the rough sides and see what happens, in this case the ploy will be different, they will start running side ways initially and when they realize that there is no escape there, they will try the vertical way out and you will notice a very strange thing, in their bid to find an escape route if they come too close to each other they will suddenly move in opposite direction as though they are scared of each other and try to find some other route but they will not pull each other down, tell me, which earth moving species does not do that. 3) Now comes the interesting point, put these crabs in a container where they cannot hook their claws on to the side, like a plastic drum or bucket and not just see but observe what happens, there will be chaos as they try to escape running around in circles over and over again and once they realize there in no escape route they will settle down in a heap, very close to each other and then after some time when everything in calm slowly they will try to crawl over the other to get to the top and try to escape, they will not pull the other down, may be at times with movement or the weight or the awkward position, the ones underneath tends to roll or fall down, and they will keep on trying. Is that not survival of the fittest a basic natural instinct ? The sea or any water body, is their natural habitat, even there they will not try to pull the other down, but fight for survival. Now tell me what is this big noise about Goan Crab Mentality, survival in an alien or natural environment is a basic universal mentality if you don't believe me, try it and let me know. I am not a zoologist or a scientist, I live by the sea and I love crabs, they are a delicacy in my house and I love watching them and eating them, the only precaution one has to take is stay away from their big snapping claws. Lastly, what Edward de Silva mentioned in his post, Message: 4 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008, may be true, most of us Goans will not go out of our way to help other fellow Goans, may be insecurity, may be jealousy, may be a lot of other things, in my life I have come across, a very few Goans who are a real nasty piece of work, who just cannot see the good of others, and people like that, my dears Goans, are all around the world, so take heart and don't get disturbed when you come across Goan Crab Mentality, I think now you all will be in a better position to debate the issue. Hope this post enlighten those people who thought otherwise, we Goans do take great pride that people round the world respect us more than others, we may try to compete fiercely with each other, like my house bigger and better than his or my car better than his but we are surely not people who PULL DOWN OTHER FELLOW GOANS. The Goan Crab Mentality (negative) only holds good in case of Goan Politicians, and that's nothing new or abnormal to them, and believe me if it was an Olympic discipline, then Our Goan Politicians would fetch GOLD !! To Goa with Love Freddy Agnelo Fernandes D G Jones International Ltd. Dubai Mall - Project P.O. Box 62256 Dubai United Arab Emirates Tel: 00971 44073599 Mob : 00971 50 541 7001 The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #186
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Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you put your Anti-Goan identity views on the Goan newspapers; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it? I am sure you have the addresses. Arwin, I have copiously expressed my views on Goanet about our many Goan identities and the need to promote the wholesome aspects our culture among Goan Indians and non-Goan Indians. I have also spoken out against your misguided notion of insulating Goa from the rest of the world by inventing a non-existent singular Goan identity. I find Goanet a more convenient medium for public expression. Newspapers are slow. BTW, I am still waiting for you to provide me with a definition of your unique Goan identity. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Today's new uploads on Mand Goa blog
Hello! Please visit new uploads on Mand Goa blog: 1. Fomentos do it again! Releases mining silted water into village!! http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/fomentos-do-it-again-releases-mining.html 2. Dempo's illegal mining in Bicholim http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/dempos-illegal-mining-in-bicholim.html 3. GAKUVED at People's SAARC in Colombo http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/gakuved-at-peoples-saarc-in-colombo.html 4. Colamb Public Hearings official minutes http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/colamb-public-hearings-official-minutes.html 5. GOAMAP launched! http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/goamap-launched.html Warmly, Seby _ Chose your Life Partner? Join MSN Matrimony FREE http://www.shaadi.com/msn/matrimony.php
[Goanet] Consumer Plastic Collection Drive on 15th August at Cuncolim.
--- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED -- Consumer Plastic Collection Drive on 15th August at Cuncolim --- The Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum (CCCF) in collaboration with the Garbage Management Committee of the Cuncolim Municipal Council and with the involvement of the Consumer Welfare Clubs of the Educational Institutions is organising a Consumer Plastic Collection Drive on Friday 15 th August on the occasion of Independence Day from 8am to 6pm. The Plastic Collection Drive will promote the slogans segregate plastic at source reduce, reuse, recycle plastic for a Clean, Green and Healthy Cuncolim. The Plastic Collection Drive seeks to create awareness amongst the people that garbage needs to be managed with the involvement of consumers in a systematic manner by adopting the most basic step of segregation at source. Through this collection drive the CCCF along with the CMC Garbage Management Committee proposes to develop a regular program of collection by the Municipal Council which would benefit every household in every ward of Cuncolim. The Collection drive will cover all of the 10 wards of the Cuncolim Municipal Council and will involve the collection of plastic bottles, bags etc. The volunteers along with the CMC vehicles will visit every ward via the main roads to undertake the collection of the plastic already segregated and kept ready by the households in Cuncolim. Meanwhile an intensive preparation for the drive has begun with distribution of leaflets, display of posters banners, announcements by the Heads of educational institutions, mobilization by teacher co-ordinators of the Consumer Welfare Clubs (CWC's) and appeals to communities at temples, churches, chapels mosques to co-operate in the plastic collection drive. There is good support determination from the Chief Officer and all the Councillors of the Cuncolim Municipal Council to make the collection drive a grand success. A detailed report of the collection drive is proposed to be sent to Mr. Daulat Hawaldar Director Directorate of Municipal Administration (DMA) and Mr. Michael D'Souza Director Department of Science, Technology Environment so as to provide various resources to make the Garbage Management Committee, efficient and effective for the future action plan. - Press Release from Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum (CCCF) -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
To Goanet - Santosh Helekar writes to a sensible Arwin Mesquita: I have copiously expressed my views on Goanet about our many Goan identities... No kidding. What insights into the realm of the blindingly obvious are you going to copiously reveal next? BTW, I am still waiting for you to provide me with a definition of your unique Goan identity. I'm afraid you will have to wait until the unique Goan cows come home after copiously depositing their their 'views' at the base of electric poles. For the rest of you Niz Goenkars, there is no wait. See - http://www.parrikar.org/misc/Insiders-Outsiders.pdf Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] History: Those un-earthly paddy fields of Goa
I also admire our 'kazans' imensely and feel the more pain seeing them lie fallow or, far...far worse painful, to see them converted/canibalised for industrial, etc use. Legend has it that they were executed by the original Dravidian inhabitants of Goa, the Gawdis, Kunbis. Their planning, the uniformity, the sluicing is, indeed, as you point out, unique, an awesome feat of engineering elevated to most enviable perfection. With all our advanced engineering acumen it would pose a daunting challenge in our day: Even the collapsed 'bandhs/bunds' are left untended and the field they enclose get, inexorably, reverted to the river. In olden times, even up to our younger days, the 'comunidades' maintained a system of levees, inherited from the very acient times, on a 24/7 basis, whereby, at the slightes sign of a 'bandh'-colapse, teams of labourers, permanently on stand-by in a well organized calendar of rotation, would rush to the spot and contain the damage. It is all the more awesome when/if we realize that the 'kazans' actually lie below the rivers'-level, more so at hightides, and is reclaimed, filled in land that is protected by the 'bandhs' This levelling also provides Goa with its hyper delectable and nutritious harvest of river-fish. I, with Augusto Monteiro, led the very first protest, in mid-sixties, when the Loutulim communidade, had agreed to sell one 'kazan' to the Chwgules for their pellet plant opposite Borim. Amidst much local accrimony shameless quislingism as well as many enticing temptations dangled before us by the buyers, we succeeded in overturning the prospective deal but were compelled to compromise with sale of a minuscule patch because the Chowgules had already purchased a private kantor, (a mini-'kazan'), from the Copró Fernandes and needed an access road. However, we made Chowgules buy it @ cubic meter, not sq meter, because we pointed out that our ancestors had filled up this land thus its cubic estimate essentially obtained. Writing this with the hope that it may be used as useful precedent for dealing with current future such marauders of which there will, certainly, be a horde however much you, Miguel, I devoutly wish they go to the hotest regions of hell! The system very highly merits an in depth dedicated research. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2008-08-13 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:34:58 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] History: Those un-earthly paddy fields of Goa I feel, when talking of history, one should first lay down ones own status on the table, so all can gauge ones bias. I am not a Goan, but trace my ancestry to Goa - to Goltim - part of present day Sao Matias village in the river island of Devar. I am a GSB, an agnostic. I beleve in free markets, but when it comes to history, I lean a bit towards Marxist views. Compare Goan paddy fields to that of any other in India: Say Tamil Nadu, Karnataka or UP, they seem like they are from another planet. Go to google earth and watch them - they have their severest form around Verna in south Goa. They are so perfectly geometric - they are of equal sizes. Some field bunds run in a straight line for more than 2000 feet! I did a bit of ameture search on the net on their history - with no results. I know a little about communidado and goan history. Who made those paddy fields in such organized manner? How old are they? What was the structure of the ancient socity which could plan in such a massive scale and execute it? Any comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm afraid you will have to wait until the unique Goan cows come home after copiously depositing their their 'views' at the base of electric poles. I guess this is an admission that there is no unique singular Goan identity. This is further clear from the following quote from http://www.parrikar.org/misc/Insiders-Outsiders.pdf; Consider the Goan Identity as a starting point. We may zoom down into this parent Identity and within it locate islets of constituent Identities threaded to it: the Goan Hindu Identity, the Goan Catholic Identity, and so on. We further break down the Goan Hindu Identity into, say, the Bamon Identity, the Daivadnyas, the Gomant Maratha Samaj Identity, etc. You can slice it in directions other than caste or religion. For instance, within the Goan Identity you could tease out the Sashtikaar Identity, the Bardezkaar Identity, etc. Still more Identities may be extracted from these sub-Identities. ...Rajan Parrikar So when he zooms the camera on Arwin's identity, Rajan's identity and Romlo's identity, he finds that they are all very different. The real question is which of these casteist identities Arwin and Rajan want to preserve. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] A New People's Party Needed - Irineu Gonsalves in Goan Observer ( Aug 9-15, 2008) - Comments from Goasuraj
Irineu Gonsalves writes in the 'Goan Observer' (Aug 9-15, 2008) asserting that Goa badly needs a People's Party. He questions the role of the Diocesan Authority and therefore the Church, of not doing enough to protest evil designs.(I had thought that I was the only person doing that, therefore it is good to have company). What is inferred from this writing is that none of the political parties that are around in Goa are People's Parties. He further says that the 'small parties' who raise their heads only during election time are too weak and immature to be called independent political entities. He says 'These parties are not for the sake of revolution or for the benefit of the people they serve. They are more interested in playing the role of king-makers in coalition governments and extract their share of the pie'. Therefore, a definition is required as to 'What a People's Party' is' as according to Shri. Irineu Gonsalves. I believe that the term 'small parties' used by the author includes or refers to the Goa Su-Raj Party in the scheme of political things as well. And therefore, this comment is warranted from me as the Party's spokesman. I personally visited Irineu Gonsalves at his home and handed him a copy of the Party's 'Constitution' and the 'Road Map' for Goa, a document that goes by as the Party's permanent 'manifesto'. Go through this I had told him and let me have your comments This, because, I have always considered Irineu to be a level headed person. I also know that he could galvanize things if he was motivated enough. A resourceful person indeed. There has been a total silence on his part for the past almost more than 6 month since I met him last. And today, his star letter on the 'GO' gives me the impression that he has made his comments that I had asked of him. I presume that he has gone through the documents that I had given him and that he has come to the conclusion that Goa Su-Raj Party does not qualify to be the People's Party he has in mind. If he has not gone through the above documents, especially the sections highlighted therein, then it becomes apparent that Irineu is talking for the sake of talking and misleading the people of Goa that there is a vacuum for real People's Party. This would indeed be a great injustice to a lot of people who have put in their precious time ad effort in the formation of this party. Therefore I want Irineu to state that he has come to the conclusion that a real People's Party is required in Goa because Goa Su-Raj Party does not qualify. It is said that if there are two Goans, there will be three clubs or associations. A reasonably true fact, indeed. There must be a thousand Irineu Gonsalveses and Floriano Lobos and we can expect to have three thousand political parties in Goa by the same calculations. And we shall indeed need them all to save Goa from Goans. floriano goasuraj PS 1: It is my belief that Irineu Gonsalves has had not time nor the inclination to open the two documents given to him, much less read them. It would be my sincere request to Irineu to plant the two booklets in his rather large compound so that they may grow in girth during this fabulous rainy season, that he may notice them enough to take a look see through them. And then, I shall be curious to know, if he really desires another People's Party. PS2: This is posted to the Editor, Goan Observer, in the hope that he will published this in the GO's coming issue.
Re: [Goanet] Paul Verlaine: II pleut doucement sur la ville_Xarant pavs xirxireamni zhoddtta
I have translated this poem for Goans, contemplating the rain in their towns in Goa and in their hearts. Thank you Lino Durado for your advice. Hanvem, hea kovitecho onkar kela Goeankarank thain, je vichar kortat zo paus zhotta to Goeanche ganvani ani ap aplea kallzani. Lino Durado, tumi bud dili techo upkar mantam. J'ai traduit cette poésie pour Goans, contemplant la pluie dans leurs villes dans Goa et à leurs coeurs. Merci Lino Durado de votre conseil. venantius j pinto Xembor ani ek kovita kovi Paul Verlaine Ek dvibhashi porgotounem Onnkar korpi Norman R. Shapiro Porgotkar, Chicago Sarvuvidhesala Chapkhan http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/853446.html#Copyright Kalzan moje pausota. . . xirxireamni pavs zhoddtta sharant Artur Rimbod (Arthur Rimbaud) Kalzant moje mollbavelean pausota zoxem xarant pavs zhoddtta Hem kitem bol bavop, hem topta Jem rigta mojea kalzak? Maryaditso, pausacho vhaz Matiyer ani pakkear! Huhn, tya dukhest kallzak Suadhik avaz pausache! Dukham pausota punn kitteak konn zannam?- Ani bhorta mhojem piddest kaliz. Kiten! ghatkiro nastonam? . . . Dhukhevont, zannam kitteak konn ani? Ani kainch maka itlem dukhoinam-- Kitteak zana zaunk zai tem-- Nastanam mog nhoim kantal-ui Mhozem kaliz kitteak kost bhogta itlem. (Ulop nasleleo kanneo (hintuntlem), 1874) - French (kovi Paul Verlaine ) ani khalla Inglezint (Onkar korpi Norman R. Shapiro) One Hundred and One Poems by Paul Verlaine A Bilingual Edition Translated by Norman R. Shapiro Published by the University of Chicago Press Il pleure dans mon coeur . . . II pleut doucement sur la ville. Arthur Rimbaud Il pleure dans mon coeur Comme il pleut sur la ville; Quelle est cette langueur Qui pénètre mon coeur? Ô bruit doux de la pluie Par terre et sur les toits! Pour un coeur qui s'ennuie Ô le chant de la pluie! Il pleure sans raison Dans ce coeur qui s'écoeure. Quoi! nulle trahison? . . . Ce deuil est sans raison. C'est bien la pire peine De ne savoir pourquoi Sans amour et sans haine Mon coeur a tant de peine! From Romances sans paroles (1874) - Trnalsated by Norman R. Shapiro Like city's rain, my heart . . . The rain falls gently on the town. Arthur Rimbaud Like city's rain, my heart Rains teardrops too. What now, This languorous ache, this smart That pierces, wounds my heart? Gentle, the sound of rain Pattering roof and ground! Ah, for the heart in pain, Sweet is the sound of rain! Tears rain-but who knows why?- And fill my heartsick heart. No faithless lover's lie? . . . It mourns, and who knows why? And nothing pains me so-- With neither love nor hate-- A simply not to know Why my heart suffers so.
[Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance
Dear Arwin, Wake up and smell the coffee ...and get your head out of the clouds! Who among these Editors of the leading English newspapers in Goa meets YOUR definition of a Goan? [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Almeida [vice Sujay Gupta now doing PR for Timblo family business] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ashwin Tombat [vice Rajan Narayan now editor of Goan Observer] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arun Sinha [vice M.M. Mudaliar/ Bikram Vora] [EMAIL PROTECTED] of india.com Rajib Borah [new Edition in Goa] Neither the newspapers northe letters to the Editor help form opinion in Goa. If that was the case, Fr. Maverick Fernandes would have been jettisioned from the CSJP by the Bishop due to the people's demand. Soter D'Souza and I might have been ostracised and Dr. Oscar Rebelo would have been declared a living saint, with two angels by his side. It has not happened inspite of a sustained campaign by vested interests who wear bush shirts as a routine and suits when attending functions at the International Centre, Hotel Mandovi, GCCI or Portuguese Consulate irrespective of caste , creed and religion ...or political affiliation! I have a Konkani speaking, convent-educated friend who was born and brought up in Goa by her Malayalee Hindu Brahmin father and a non-Brahmin Catholic Kannadiga mother. She is married to an airplane pilot from Uttar Pradesh who was in the Indian Navy and they have a daughter studying in Goa who is also fluent in Konkani. Now is this grand daughter of a set of inmigrants any less Goan than my friend in Toronto-Canada,whose grand parents migrated to Tanzania and raised their children in suburban London does not speak a word of Konkani . and has never been to Goa? Feel free to forward this to any newspaper in Goa that you please. I will not retract my words. This week, my name is already a rage in the local newspapers for being an INTERNET TIGER. [Read Goan Observer of 09 aug, GT of 10 Aug., Herald of 11 Aug. NT and TOI have spared me so far. Thank God for small mercies.].It has had a disasterous fall-out: my wife has threatened to stop buying my favourite Parle's Tiger brand biscuits with immediate effect and force me on a diet of local flower biscuits! ;-) Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:03:53 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mario Can you put your ANTI-GOAN IDENTITY views in the Goa's Media; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it. Below are addresses of the Goan Newspapers. Arwin -- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:44:28 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Santosh, Its more of Blind opposition not thoughtful. Your habit is to misinterpret posts for vested interests; my letter was not inciting hatred. Can you put your Anti-Goan identity views on the Goan newspapers; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it? I am sure you have the addresses. Arwin Good to see this thoughtful opposition to the continuing incitement of hatred against non-Goan Indians in all its forms. The solution to Goa's problems is law-abiding Goans. There should be a grass roots campaign to promote honesty in public affairs, and respect for the law, for each other, and for our heritage, rather than whine and complain day in and day out, and blame others for our problems. Cheers, Santosh ... Mario asks: I don't see increasing numbers - just a small handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by. The increasing numbers more correctly describe the new-Goans who have discovered the beauty and charm of Goa. There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the caste system, continue the damage they have done for centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in day-to-day decisionmaking. -- Get an email ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Environmental degradation in Goa
Dear Prasad, Thank you for posting on Goanet. One more sane voice for protecting Goa's environment is always welcome. I invite you to join the Net groups of 1. GBA support group [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2. Botanical Society of Goa group [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cross postings welcome on both these lists as long as they relate to Goa's environment. BSG also welcomes exchange on trees, gardening, Rain water Harvesting, etc. We believe in T.E.A.M. Together Everyone Achieves More. that is our TEAM spirit. You are invited to join. Hope to read more from you on Goanet, too. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:25:04 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Environmental degradation in Goa To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is my first post to Goanet since I joined 2-3 years back. Hopefully I should be contributing more and more now onwards. For instance, the Mhadei river issue. It appears that the issue is on the back burner as far as the Government of Goa is concerned while the Government of Karnataka is ready to divert the water of the Mahadayi into the Malaprabha. There is a nice blog site (http://mohan-pai.blogspot.comhttp://mohan-pai.blogspot.com/ ) by Mr. Mohan Pai which showcases thebeauty and the importance of that river. Then we have the contamination of ground water (and not just in the mining areas) and use of plastic. I don't think working towards the resolution of such issues should be a detriment towards the economic development of the state. We need to have a concentrated effort from all the agencies that can contribute - government, NGO's and even the local populace - before it is too late. Prasad Vaman Raicar Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Apology: 1980 Olympics Winners - Re: 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection
Dears In Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1008 I wrote the folowing: Abhinav Bindra has won a gold medal at the Olympics. This is the first medal that India has got after 28 years. That means the last Gold medal India won was in the 1980 Moscow Olympics where we won a Gold in the women's hockey competition. In that team there was the goalkeeper Loretta D'Sousa from Moira, now Loretta Sreedharan, Customs officer from Vasco. Don't you think it would be a nice idea to give her some attention at this moment? If some journos were smart, they would have interviewed her and asked her - what she felt when she won that Gold 28 years ago. They could have asked her how and why she was able to get that Gold and not other Goans. And why it took 28 years for another Gold to appear, and that too in an esoteric event like shooting. And they could have questioned her as to why a sport like hockey,in which Goans [although many of these Goans achieved what they did in Bombay or East Africa or elsewhere] have had an aptitude to, has never really flourished in Goa. In doing so, they could perhaps also focus on the way the Vaglos and the Dourados have screwed Goa's women and men's hockey respectively. When doing this interview, our intrepid journos must remember the scam that works like this: sports officials do not ever want to give up the reins of power in the Assn.'s which they control because they control a vote in the National federations. This means that every now and then, they will be given a free holiday abroad as Manager or some such official. And at times if some funds come from Sports Authority of India or S.A.Goa, then they are ever ready to misappropriate it. They must also try to fathom a question which I cannot understand: most of the sports officials who scam Goan sports come from so-called 'respectable' Goan families. I do not understand how they are prepared to disgrace their families for what, if you think in the long run, amounts to BHINKTAM. I wonder whether our journos have the balls to ask such questions. I remember asking a Goan editor why he did not ask an industrialist some tough questions. I thank him for giving me a frank answer: Goa is too small a place for such things. Cheers Augusto .. I very sincerely apologize for the mistake that I made. I must have been WUI when I sent that post. Actually, it was the MEN hockey team which had won a Gold at the Moscow Olympics. The Women's team was 4th. Leroy Veloso from Moira who is related to Loretta corrected me on this point. I hope however that the remarks I made about the state of of Goan hockey are not, in the bargain, forgotten. In deep shame, Sincerely, Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Where have the Toronto Goans gone?
Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Gilbert, These questions should probably be answered by the GNAT President, Francis Rodrigues(z). However, since he is very quiet, and since I am not one to weasel out of questions, here are my responses. Gilbert Lawrence wrote: ML: We went ahead with our plans. Kevin went to every Goan social for the past three months informing people about the conference. On some weekends, he went to two or three functions, trying to sell our convention. The response we got from Toronto area residents was not what we hoped for. The response we got from Goanetters was similar. GL: Can you provide some possible explanations for the above - Why? ANSWER: 1) The cost of being a delegate was probably the biggest factor. 2) A lot of people are convinced that nothing is achieved at conventions. 3) The convention took place during the work week. Is there a disconnect as to what organizers of a Goan convention aim for and what the majority of Diaspora Goans want? ANSWER: We asked, here on Goanet, what people would want at the convention. I have not heard from anyone (yet?) who was disappointed because something/topic was not available at the convention. Are the conventions geared by - and for - those who organize it? ANSWER: I hope this question is only being asked because of Eugene's disgusting four part coverage here. Else, the question is a sad one. The answer is, the organizers were interested in doing something for Goa and Goans. We asked for input and provided almost all that was requested. Let's be real. How many topics presented were of practical / everyday use to Goans - be new immigrants or long-time residents transitioning into retirement and likely to face new challenges? ANSWER: Goans in Toronto have extensive networks available to them. For example, there are four 'clubs' for seniors. Each 'club' is needed because of the size of Toronto and because the GOA simply cannot look after the needs of all seniors, adults, young adults, etc. The convention was not about Goans in Toronto. This was the International Goan Convention. Do we have a sense of what diaspora Goans want from a Goan convention in addition to a good time within reasonable costs? ANSWER: The impression I got from those who attended was that they were there because they felt they could do something for Goa and Goans. I have no idea what the expectations are of those who did not attend. In scientific meetings, the organizers request abstracts from want-to-be presenters. Organizers of Goan conference may want to do the same. Then one does not have issues of speakers being selected from whom you know. ANSWER: I do not think we denied anyone from presenting at the convention. The only obstacle we had was that we did not have a budget to pay for any expenses of the presenters. Despite this, people travelled all the way from Goa with their presentations. I would mark this down to dedication rather than whom you know. I am sorry to read that this year's Viva Goa was cancelled. What a pity. Yep, that was unfortunate. Despite this, and despite an extremely limited budget, we decided to go ahead with the convention. Now let me add my two cents here. A lot of people question what these conventions succeed in doing. My answer is they provide the network for those who have the same interests. Let me give you an example. When I first heard of Goa Sudharop it was because someone was questioning, on Goanet, if they were reporting their accounts to the US authorities. I get requests all the time to help causes in Goa. I have a problem donating to some projects as I do not know how the money is going to be spent. One day George Pinto found out that I was in his home town of San Jose. He asked me if I would like to meet for lunch. After speaking to George for a few minutes, I was convinced that I could trust Goa Sudharop to spend my donations wisely. Similarly, at the convention, I met people with the same interests that I have. I met people who are currently working against the rape that is going on in Goa. I met people who were only looking for moral support and awareness on the work they are currently doing. I also met those who, as a result of the convention, have decided to donate time and money to Goan causes. This is what can result from a convention. Lastly, a Goan from Toronto who I have long admired because of the work he has done with the community here, came up and thanked us for organizing the convention. I guess people who were looking for 'good,' found that at the convention. Those who were looking for 'bad,' found what they were looking for too Mervyn Lobo And now a story about Lobo's. One evening an old Indian told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, My son, the battle is between two
Re: [Goanet] From Lisbon to Toronto Part I
Hi Maria, With the traditional Goan politeness, I ask you to please enlighten us on the individual and collective achievements of Goans that were recognized in Lisbon and Toronto? This phrase was repeated several times in your article. If the Casa de Goa was celebrating Goan achievements, the achievers from various parts of the Goan world should have been invited, given awards and would have been there to receive them. From what I can see the same set of (3-5) achievers who were trumpeted in Lisbon were recognized in Toronto. Is that all that native and Diaspora Goans have as achievers? Perhaps the first step is for Goan leaders to know the Goan achievers. Not just the ones whose friends and relatives one knows. Hopefully we have moved from 'amchem tempar'.. More Goans today have been recognized by the world around them than by Goans. This by no means is to underplay the efforts and the success of the two conventions. But pray, please lets 'walk the talk', at least in the 21st century. Your second paragraph totally contradicts subsequent ones. (see below) Goans are no longer stupid. That is what the Toronto Goans displayed in unison and likely the majority of Portugal's Goans. Goan conventions to be truly successful have to be joined by the plebeians / proletariat. The colonial attitude of participation by the fidalgos, patricians and the 'gireskai' are long over. Participation by the en-mass can be done. Check out Toronto's Viva Goa! With all due respects if Casa de Goa, Lisbon, had an analysis of the needs of average Goans in Portugal and ways to make the convention have a broad appeal, the Toronto convention could have followed on it; and have had more success. Clearly a lot of effort at both conventions (and other Goan conventions) was put into the pizzaz, with little attention for programs for practical use of the community. Perhaps our conventions need a program sub-committee (among others) apart from the main organizing committee. As an example, at the Toronto convention, were other artists invited to showcase their creative works? What would it have taken to do so? So in addition to displaying our best artist, amateurs Goans can also be given exposure and recognition. I know of Goans who are adept at painting, pencil drawings and stained glass creativity. Some of them sell their art work at museum shops in the USA. Right now, recognition at Goan conventions appears to be given based on whom you know. When will we shed our parochial mind set? Having said the above, the convention organizers should hold their heads high and consider this as a major contribution to the Goan community, and an experience they will treasure. We in turn should thank them for their contributions and service. This, as the baton is passed seamlessly to the next batch / generation of organizers, while the past organizers serve as Chairperson of the Board. Part of a good committee is to train the next group to step-up to the plate. That is where working on sub-committee are good training grounds. Let me call on the organizers to share their own experience (positive and negative) so that future organizers of Goan conventions can learn. Thus we do not repeat the same issues and face the same dilemmas, as was experienced in Toronto and perhaps Lisbon. We need a Goan organization and a convention that serves the community and not the reverse. Regards, GL - maria gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] When we decided to host the 1st Convention a year ago, in Lisbon, we hoped that there would be a continuation of the celebration of our individual and collective achievements and that someone else would carry the torch. We were therefore very happy when Kevin and Lisette Saldanha offered to do so. If the theme for the Lisbon Convention From Goa into the World set the context for a celebration of our achievements, the theme of the Toronto Convention Goan Identity and Networking Today builds on them to further pursue our quest for an ever changing Goan identity that also takes on board the aspirations of our children in a globalized world where the notion of identity no longer conforms to place of birth or culture of origin. In Casa de Goa, we have been striving to cherish our identity and to make our children proud of their Goan heritage through music as a symbolic element of representation and cultural reconstruction that will hopefully remain an element of cohesion. We know other Goan Associations have been using other tools. The important message is that our children need to be aware of their heritage before they can become proud of it and to be part of the process of culture in the making in the countries where they live.
[Goanet] Pravasi Bharatiya Divas on 8th January Diaspora Convention to be held in Chennai
Prime Minister to open Pravasi Bharatiya Divas on 8th January Diaspora Convention to be held in Chennai 12:11 IST The 7th Pravasi Bharatiya Divas (PBD) Convention will be held at the Chennai Trade Centre, Chennai on 07-09 January 2009. It will be inaugurated by the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh on 8th January. The President Smt. Pratibha Devisingh Patil will deliver the valedictory address on the 9th. She will also confer Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Awards for 2009. The Convention is being organised by the Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs in partnership with the Government of Tamil Nadu. Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) would be the institutional partner. Chennai is hosting the Convention for the first time. The last PBD was held in New Delhi. The 7th PBD will focus on issues relating to the role of Overseas Indians in India's emergence as a global power. Topics for discussion include Indian Diaspora: Preservation of Language and Culture, Health Concerns of Indian Diaspora, Role of Diaspora Youth in the 21st Century India, and India As An Emerging Power: The Diaspora Factor. There will be regional working sessions on Diaspora in the Gulf, Asia-Pacific, Africa, USA, Europe, Caribbean and Canada. Another unique feature of the event is the Building-the-Bridges sessions on 'Trade Industry', 'Culture Entertainment', 'Education' and 'Philanthropy'. There will also be sessions with state governments on Need for having a response mechanism for the Indian Diaspora. A special Trade and Industry Exhibition with participation from Corporate, Financial Institutions, State Governments, NGOs and others will form part of the event. The Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre (OIFC) will set up a Market Place at the venue to facilitate business and investment. Arrangements have been made to take delegates on tour to Tirupati, Puducherry, Mamallapuram (Mahabalipuram) and other places PBD Conventions provide a platform for exchange of views and networking to the Persons of Indian Origin on matters of common interest. These Conventions enable the Government of India to better understand the expectations of the Overseas Indians from the land of their ancestors and to acknowledge their role in India's all round development and its efforts to acquire its rightful place in the comity of nations. Formation of a separate Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs in 2004 is a testimony to the importance attached by the Government towards the well-being of the Persons of Indian Origin and their close affinity with India. Decisions taken by the Government of India as a result of wider consultations held at such Conventions include formulation of the Overseas Citizenship of India Scheme, establishment of Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre, conceptualisation of a PIO University, formation of Prime Minister's Global Advisory Council of People of Indian Origin, and setting up of an India Development Foundation. Programmes e.g. Know India Programme and Scholarship Programme for Diaspora Children are designed specifically for Diaspora youth. PBD Chennai is expected to carry forward the constructive engagement with the Diaspora with renewed vigour. A website www.pbdindia.org is being launched on 21st of this month, which would provide further details and open the registration for the Convention. Akshay rout/vk - Forwarded by gaspar.almeida, www.goa-world.com
[Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
Dear Miguel, I am afraid you have left me sort of confused with most of your post. 2 specific areas where I think I understand your views: (1) Yes Media is influenced but still we can use it to shape opinion to some extent. (2) Surely we an understand the anomolies/exceptions of Goan Identity, we need to focus on the bigger picture. If we apply logic you stated, then there should be no Identity anywhere in the world. Regards, Arwin Dear Arwin, Wake up and smell the coffee ...and get your head out of the clouds! Who among these Editors of the leading English newspapers in Goa meets YOUR definition of a Goan? [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Almeida [vice Sujay Gupta now doing PR for Timblo family business] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ashwin Tombat [vice Rajan Narayan now editor of Goan Observer] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arun Sinha [vice M.M. Mudaliar/ Bikram Vora] [EMAIL PROTECTED] of india.com Rajib Borah [new Edition in Goa] Neither the newspapers northe letters to the Editor help form opinion in Goa. If that was the case, Fr. Maverick Fernandes would have been jettisioned from the CSJP by the Bishop due to the people's demand. Soter D'Souza and I might have been ostracised and Dr. Oscar Rebelo would have been declared a living saint, with two angels by his side. It has not happened inspite of a sustained campaign by vested interests who wear bush shirts as a routine and suits when attending functions at the International Centre, Hotel Mandovi, GCCI or Portuguese Consulate irrespective of caste , creed and religion ...or political affiliation! I have a Konkani speaking, convent-educated friend who was born and brought up in Goa by her Malayalee Hindu Brahmin father and a non-Brahmin Catholic Kannadiga mother. She is married to an airplane pilot from Uttar Pradesh who was in the Indian Navy and they have a daughter studying in Goa who is also fluent in Konkani. Now is this grand daughter of a set of inmigrants any less Goan than my friend in Toronto-Canada,whose grand parents migrated to Tanzania and raised their children in suburban London does not speak a word of Konkani . and has never been to Goa? Feel free to forward this to any newspaper in Goa that you please. I will not retract my words. This week, my name is already a rage in the local newspapers for being an INTERNET TIGER. [Read Goan Observer of 09 aug, GT of 10 Aug., Herald of 11 Aug. NT and TOI have spared me so far. Thank God for small mercies.].It has had a disasterous fall-out: my wife has threatened to stop buying my favourite Parle's Tiger brand biscuits with immediate effect and force me on a diet of local flower biscuits! ;-) Mog asundi. Miguel
[Goanet] Encountering Mario ...
A tribute to famed Goan cartoonist Mario de Miranda Do view: http://www.youtube.com/user/pameladmello -- Pamela D'Mello Cell 9850 461649 http://pameladmello.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Chotrai! Chotrai! Tiatr! Tiatr! ...
Alfred, Alston ani Anthony -- a Tiatr in Dallas, Texas Cynthia Gomes James Dallas, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chotrai! Chotrai! Tiatr! Tiatr! Tiatr! Khuim? Curtore? Chinchonne? Dubai? London? Toronto? Na, na - Dallas, Texas! Dallas has many claims to fame or infamy around the world -- for example, the site of JFK's assassination, home of the Dallas Cowboys, glitzy buildings and malls, and the residence of the fictitious JR Ewing of the Dallas soap opera fame. But among the Goans, East Indians and Mangaloreans who live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, Dallas is going to make history for producing and staging the first multi-lingual multi-community Tiatr on August 16, 2008. Ten years ago, in August of 1998, a loosely formed group of Goan, East Indian and Mangalorean friends came together to put up a food stall at Anand Bazaar, which is the huge annual celebration of India's Independence Day around the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. The event is usually held at the Lone Star Park, and draws a crowd of about 15,000 people. The Goan food stall under the banner Goa - Gem of India offered Goan cuisine like chicken xacuti, fish curry, rice, and Goan sweets. All the food had been prepared by us, and that year was the first time that our community had a presence at the massive festival. The hundreds of people who clamoured at our stall could not get enough of us! Everyone (mostly Indian immigrants) had a story about a past trip to Goa or a dream of visiting Goa, or a memory of Goan food. Many wanted to know why we were not selling feni! Within a few hours of dishing out our fare on that blistering summer day, we were sold out! We were elated and packed up our stall, floating on a high, even though there had been no feni. Soon after that sweltering day, our makeshift group coalesced into a formal organization. Since there were only about 50 Goan families, 50 Mangalorean families and a handful of East Indian families in the social circle, and all got along well, as well as had a shared Catholic heritage from the Konkan coast, it was decided to form a joint organization that linked all three communities into one. And so, the G.E.M.s of Texas was born -- an organization of Goan, East Indian and Mangalorean Christians in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. As far as I know, as a Goan, this is the only expatriate organization for Goans that has formed a happy union with two other closely linked communities. This year, 2008, is our tenth anniversary year, and August 2008 is exactly 10 years since our debut at a major area event. We have had a year of celebratory functions, and more to come. One of our events in honour of our 10th year is our first ever cultural showcase event titled, Aamchi Maathi, Aamchi Rithi, on August 16th. The event will include a Manddo, Corridinho, Kunnbi Dance, Mangalorean Dance Medley, Choral Groups, a Generation X item, a Simon-Says Game in Konkani, and the main event, an original multi-lingual Tiatr titled, Alfred, Alston, Ani Anthony -- A Tale of Three Gems. The Tiatr has been written and directed by this writer Cynthia Gomes James, a Goan, and has an entirely local, amateur cast composed of members of the GEMs organization in Dallas. The Tiatr is a lighthearted tale about three GEMs and their sweethearts and how fate brings them together, and then links them forever. Alfred is a Mangalorean boy, Alston is an East Indian, and Anthony is Goan. The play is in three acts, and has about twenty-five pordhe or scenes. Since the plot links three story lines into one, as the play evolves, the story moves fast, and with all the scenes and side show songs, the Tiatr has a duration of about one hour and fifteen minutes. The story takes you from Mangalore to Goa to Gorai, and then to Bombay where by coincidence these three young men meet. As their story progresses, and more coincidences unfold, these three young men find that life and destiny has a master plan for them. The Mangalorean couple Alfred and Juliana are played by Osler and Maria Kamath, who are authentic Mangaloreans. The East Indian couple Alston and Malaika are played by Kevin and Clare Dias (Kevin is an East Indian, while Clare is Goan). The Goan couple Anthony and Claudia are played by Thomas and Lysette Goes who are presently in Dallas, but have their roots in Colva. By expanding the cast and plot to include other couples playing parents, and children playing siblings, the Tiatr has grown to a cast of about 30 people from the community. The entire cultural event will show off the talents of about 80 community members, including adults and children. Since the story is about the three GEMs communities, the play is multi-lingual. You will hear Goan Konkani, Mangalorean Konkani, and Marathi, and due to particular elements in the storyline, you will also hear Hindi, and Swahili. For the enjoyment and comprehension of the expatriate audience and their American guests, there is also a fair amount of English, as well as an off-stage narrator,
[Goanet] Actividades do CLP/IC de Goa
Dear Friends, A retrospective and anthological exhibition *«Alberto Carneiro: A sculptor in permanent osmosis and dialogue with Nature»* is conceived by CLP\IC from photographs and bibliographic material published about the renowned sculptor, winner of the prestigious award Prémio de Artes Casino da Póvoa 2007. The work of Alberto Carneiro, one of the most outstanding contemporary plastic artists, reflects the profound dialogue of the author with currents of oriental philosophical and metaphysical thoughts and an intimate relation with nature. All students, members of CLP/IC and interested public are invited to visit the exhibition being held at the premises of the Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões in Panaji (AGVA HOUSE, Dr. Dada Vaidya Rd.) from *18th August to 2nd of September 2008*. For further information, please contact Delfim Correia da Silva (Tel: *0832 6647737*). Kind regrads. Delfim Caros Amigos, O Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões em Goa – Índia exibe uma exposição retrospectiva e antológica sobre Alberto Carneiro, integrada no ciclo « Expressões Artísticas Lusófonas », no âmbito do PAA-2008. A exposição *«Alberto Carneiro: um escultor em permanente osmose e diálogo com a Natureza»* é concebida pelo CLP/IC a partir de fotografias e material bibliográfico editado sobre o renomado escultor, vencedor do prestigiado Prémio de Artes Casino da Póvoa 2007. A obra de Alberto Carneiro, um dos mais destacados artistas plásticos portugueses contemporâneos, reflecte o profundo diálogo do autor com correntes do pensamento filosófico e metafísico oriental e uma íntima relação com a natureza. A exposição estará patente neste CLP/IC de *18 de Agosto até ao dia 2 de Setembro.* * * Saudações muito cordiais. Delfim -- José Miguel Ribeiro Lume Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões Goa-Índia
[Goanet] NEWS: Rajan Narayan stands by remarks against Fr Maverick {Gomantak Times}
MEDIA TRIAL By A Staff Reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED] PANJIM: No sooner his weekly 'Goan Observer' hit the stands on Saturday, August 9, little did Editor Rajan Narryan realise what was in store for him. More particularly, as he cast aspersions on Fr Maverick Fernandes' attitude in matters vis-a-vis the formulation of the Regional Plan 2021. Despite a gherao immediately thereafter, Narayan has remained firm, unrepentant and has steadfastly refused to apologise for his remarks. I will not apologise to Fr Maverick. I stand by my writing. However, if Fr Maverick wants to respond, I will publish his version, Narayan told GT. In his weekly column, Narayan alleged that Fr Maverick, who heads the Council for Social Justice and Peace and is a member of the core committee of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan, was deliberately obstructing the formulation of a Regional Plan 2021. He quoted Fr Maverick Fernandes as having told the core group, Let the chaos continue. The GBA has seen an ideological split over the incorporation of the 73rd and 74th Amendments to the Constitution of the Regional Plan 2021. Fr Maverick does not understand the consequences of an indefinite delay in the Regional Plan 2021, which suits the politicians and the land sharks, Narayan told GT. On Saturday, the agitators wanted Narayan to apologise for his writings against Fr Maverick. Narayan however stood his ground. The agitators who gheraoed me comprised of Charles Fernandes of SEZ Virodhi Manch, Geraldine Fernandes of Benaulim Villagers' Action Committee and about 50 others. They said I have insulted Fr Maverick. They threatened to break the telephones, called me a Keralite and said I have taken money from builders. This is an act of goondagiri. I have a right to express my point of view, said Narayan. Surprisingly, Narayan did not even deem it fit to contact Fr Maverick to elicit his point of view. I follow a different pattern. I know that he (Fr Maverick) said it. I have stated it in my column. The onus of letting me or Goa know about his point of view is his responsibility, he said. * * * FR MAVERICK REACTS Fr Maverick Fernandes has categorically stated that he was not involved with the gherao of Goan Observer editor Rajan Narayan. I don't know about the gherao. I came to know of it only in the evening. He expressed disappointment over the gherao. On Saturday afternnon, Rajan Narayan phoned the Bishop's Palace, accusing me of sending goons to gherao him. At 8 pm that day, Rajan sent me an SMS asking me not to send chamchas and goons to intimidate him, remarked Fr Maverick. Fr Maverick, however, did not deny the statement, Let the chaos continue, attributed to him by Narayan in his column. We want to explain the context of this whole issue which we feel has been vitiated by Narayan. We are coming up with a press statement today (August 13) to clarify my position, he added. ENDS Gomantak Times, August 13, 2008. Page 1.
[Goanet] Goan band playing Goan
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Re: [Goanet] Goan Crab Mentality
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:41:54 +0400 From: Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The crab mentality thing has been on for a couple of days now, people do you have a clue to what you are talking about, I don't know who started this crab mentality stuff but I am sure he too did not know what he was talking about. I will disperse your doubts with just a few examples. Now tell me what is this big noise about Goan Crab Mentality, survival in an alien or natural environment is a basic universal mentality if you don't believe me, try it and let me know. I am not a zoologist or a scientist, I live by the sea and I love crabs, they are a delicacy in my house and I love watching them and eating them, the only precaution one has to take is stay away from their big snapping claws. Mario observes: Freddy, Freddy, Freddy, Calm down, man:-)) I really think you need to loosen your kashtie, just a little bit:-)) We all love to eat crabs. But take a look at the subject line of your post. The operative word is mentality. You have described the crab mentality, whether Goan or otherwise, better than anyone else when you said, ...stay away from their big snapping claws.:-)) That's what we're talking about, big snapping claws - Goa style:-))
[Goanet] From Goa to Toronto Part II
From Lisbon to Toronto Part II I liked and learnt from the presentations. They were informative and related to Goan identity one way or another because they reflected the lived experiences of people who either live and work in Goa, or people like me who have been away from Goa for a long time but still remain emotionally attached to the land, to its people and to its culture. I belong to those who feel we should make every effort to help our children understand our ethos, without forcing anything down their throat (which does not work anyway) but rather by letting them choose if and how they wish to remain connected, besides visiting their grandparents and loving and loved extended families. But we have to provide the opportunities for the connections to happen. The blow in the stomach came from Dean d’ Cruz. It is one thing to read and to be informed about the extremely negative impacts of mega-development in Goa, but quite another to watch a succession of ppt. screens that make it all so real. It was one document that did more to contribute to awareness-raising than many other documents I have read and events I have heard about (like the on-going agitation in many villages, including my native village of Benaulim)! This document can be put to very good use by all of us and I am sure Dean will receive many requests for further information, including in relation to the 2021 Regional Plan. The fact is that mega-development (or re-development, or beautification or renovation, or whatever else you may choose to call it) is causing environmental degradation and taking away people’s homes and livelihoods elsewhere in India and in other developing and developed countries without proper consideration for the protection of the human rights of displaced communities by way of adequate respect for their opinion, or compensation or rehabilitation in case of forced evictions. It only shows how extensive the problem is and how much we have to gain by uniting our efforts under common banners in order to look for viable development alternatives. I haven’t had the possibility of looking at all the books that were launched at the Goan literature panel. It was a great idea. I have enjoyed glancing at Alexyz’s cartoons, in his book Goa, Goan, Goaing, Gone…? and out of his book, including one of me, drawn up in a paper napkin, the day of the reception. He is super at picking up your weak points (like my long nose….)!! I was glad to know from a message from George Pinto that Alexyz’s Great Goan exhibition at the Indian Community Centre in California was a great success. Cheers, Alexyz and George! Of the books that were launched I have only read Cheryl Antao’s “The Dance of the Peacock” that I recommend not only because the poems are beautifully written but because, once again, her lived experiences as a woman belonging to a minority strengthen every word she writes. I look forward to re-reading Tivolem after Victor Rangel Ribeiro reminded us of Maria Santana’s suitors in her grandmother’s village and to reading Ben Antao and Marinella Proenca for the first time. Francis Rodrigues gave us a good half an hour on Goan music of the last 50 years. It was an unexpected but really interesting take because he holds a wealth of information and personal knowledge of many of our music icons like Frank Fernandes, Chris Perry, Lorna, Alfred Rose, Remo and others. The work done on the transcription of musical pieces for the book he will be publishing soon on the favourite songs of the Diaspora provides yet another and (relatively untapped) approach to Goan music. I wish Francis would comply with my request to post his presentation on the website. We will of course miss his humming of the tunes, but we will certainly benefit from the written word. And for that matter, the request is extended to all those who made presentations. It would enable those who did not come to Toronto to read the contents. Obviously, the pleasure of renewing old friendship ties and of meeting people for the first time is only possible if one is physically present. I was fortunate. Besides meeting some of the participants in the Lisbon Convention and sharing fond remembrances of last year, I also reconnected with friends like Joao Manuel Pereira and Aires Manuel Barreto whom I had not seen for many years and met people like Francis, Cornel, George Pinto, Filomena, Acaria, Ben Antao and others of whose existence and ideas I knew from Goanet but am now able to link their faces to their names. The participants in the Goan Diaspora panel discussion provided food for thought. Though Coralie D’Souza did not speak, we know what she thinks from her article in Ekvott (Convention souvenir). Coming from different points of departure and different generations that naturally made for differentiated life and work experiences, Lea Rangel Ribeiro and Christine Pinto gave us insights on Goan
[Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:03:53 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you put your ANTI-GOAN IDENTITY views in the Goa's Media; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it. Mario responds: Arwin, To begin with, I reject your premise, because the simple fact is that there is no single Goan Identity. For example, my Goan identity is different from yours, from Santosh's, from Jane's, from Vidhyadhar's, and from Shakheel-bhai's who fixes my car when I am in Goa, and on and on ad infinitum. However, I think the evidence shows that you have an anti-Indian identity, in addition to the now well-known confusion between a private home, a state like Goa within a democracy like India and a feudal tribal federation like the UAE. In response to your request, I will be glad to send letters to the Editors of the publications you have mentioned, and will post a copy on Goanet. But, are the Goans in Goa who read those publications any different from the Goans on Goanet, where my never humble views are legendary?:-)) We have seen what Goans on Goanet have to say. To summarize, we have seen: a) a few Goans who live in Goa who don't want their fellow-Indians to migrate to Goa, even though Goans have migrated all over the world for decades b) a few Goans who do not live in Goa who don't want their fellow-Indians to migrate to Goa, even though they themselves live elsewhere and dream of returning to Goa someday, sadly, some in hardwood boxes c) some bitter Goans who seem unable to tell the difference between what the influx of movie stars means for the preservation of old Portuguese-era homes in their villages and for Goa's economy in general, versus the defacing of the Goan countryside by venal builders, some of who are Goans, some non-Goans, who bribe corrupt officials in order to obtain permits and licenses for grossly ugly developments incompatible with their surroundings. d) some observers who believe that, regardless of what we may personally want, all Indians have a right to live wherever they want, including in Goa, just as all Goans have always had a right to live and work anywhere in India Chances are that the responses to any letter they publish in a Goan newspaper will fall along the same lines.
[Goanet] Young Goans impress at Independence Day festival
The Goan Overseas Association (GOA), with president Oscar Furtado, took part in the 61st anniversary celebrations of India's Independence held at Dundas Square in Toronto. Raindrops kept falling throughout the time of the parade and also during the showcase of dances by different groups, some representing states of India. The dancing group, Malaikas, all young girls, performed three items. The first was a remix of Konkani songs, including a rap part, the second the Aum Saiba Poldoti Voita dekhni and the last a fusion featuring modern dances to English/Konkani songs. They got a big round of applause from the audience. The choreography was done by the husband-and-wife team of Akhtar and Naomi Akram. The group was coordinated by Rosie Barretto, a member of the GOA executive, and recently appointed to the Panorama India Board, which organizes the Independence Day and Republic Day events. It is such events that project the Goan culture to the public. This is not the first time GOA has participated in events held by the Indian community or the mainstream community. The GOA's efforts to promore Goan culture should be encouraged. A Goan band, Amigos de Goa, led by Selwyn Colaco, also performed. They sang English, Konkani and Hindi songs. They too received wide applause. The audience demanded the band sing at least another song before leaving the stage. The band has performed at many Indian events.
[Goanet] Special Announcement
Dear Mapxemkars and patronizers of The City of Mapusa; The Mapusa Municipal Market, The Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott, a newly formed body of the Citizens of Mapusa and the surrounding areas, including the 'Merchant Community' of Mapusa will be submitting its 'Charter of Demands' (suggestive of the general concerns of the citizens) to the Chairperson/President of the Mapusa Municipal Council on August 18 [MONDAY], 2008 at 4.p.m. The 'MNE' shall be addressing the Press and the Electronic Media at a Press Conference at Hotel Trimurthi (Nr. Mapusa Civil Court, Altinho) at 3.00 p.m the same day, prior to the meeting with the Mapusa Municipal Chairperson in her chambers. The seriousness with which this 'Charter of Demands' for the Mapusa City and the Mapusa Municipal Market has been prepared and signed by a large number of affected citizens, needs to be reflected in the displayed of equally large number of attendees at the Mapusa Municipal Building (Camara) on or before 4.00 p.m. for just half-hour or so to show solidarity with the Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott which wants to see nothing but the good of Mapusa City and the Mapusa Municipal Market. Kindly, therefore, convince your dear family members, relatives, neighbours and friends to keep this very important date, come sun, come rain, to make it a memorable starting day that will see Mapusa Town/City and its Market place rejuvenated in the immediate future with our involvement, participation, especially the encouragement offered to the elected representatives of the Council to be more concerned towards the upkeep of this legendary Town/Market place, to be maintained to reflect our collective pride for as long as we shall want it to remain that way, always. Thank You and God Bless you for being there to share our collective concerns. for Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott Sd/- (Adv. Antonio J.B. Lobo) Convenor C-01, 1st. Floor, Saldanha Business Towers, Feira Alta, Mapusa-Goa. Tel: Off. (0832) 2263284 (M) 9850809902 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Notes from the Goan Convention -- Part IV and Final
I wanted to write this fourth and final part before I left Toronto for an outing, but time did not permit me to do so. I reserved the best part for the last. I have read that some netters have pointed out that I have only written about the negatives. Read my previous post and I have said that Wendell, Dean and Alexyx brought their home-based experiences to the fore and that some workshops and presentations were of good quality. I know holding conventions takes lot of time -- and money -- and that the some members of the organizing committee worked hard. I need not mention their names as they have been acknowledged by some other netters. I particularly like to thank Mervyn for giving me rides to the convention venue and for arranging a ride back from the Grand Ball. What I wrote is a story behind the story. Such stories make good journalism as any journalist on this forum will tell you. It is often an unpleasant task to write about people and groups that one knows on a personal basis and not as professional subjects. Such stories do not please everyone and with more than 30 years in journalism I should know. I was nobody's plant or puppet. I cut short my trip to Germany to come for the convention. I was saying to myself if it was going to worth it. I don't really regret coming for the convention as I met some new people and reconnected with old ones. When the convention unfolded I heard a lot of stories about and I myself became a victim of Kevin's arrogance. I am, therefore, surprised to read that I was offensive from the start. I only opened my mouth to ask one question of Dean on the issue of his professional job and his social activism. Then I asked Andrea the question on whether she expects us to feed her research and if the workshop was the place to do so. As for the pre-registration and post-dated cheque, let me clarify that I arrived in Toronto on the eve of the convention. I gave a post-dated cheque (Aug 1) to the treasurer. He did not object to it. As for the woman visa, a letter from a Canadian MP helped. I cannot ascertain whether the letter from GNAT president also helped. Since the woman first secured US visa, she changed her travel itinerary to make US her first stop. After getting Canadian visa, she tried to change again to make Toronto her first stop but there were no seats available. I find it strange that the Toronto Goanetters Association is composed of members who are NOT subscribers to Goanet. I asked Francis to explain the criteria of becoming a member of GNAT as I believe he drew up the constitution and got the association incorporated in Toronto. I said that the first qualification should be that they are subscribers to Goanet. That is where Goanetters' allegiance lies. Francis said that if that rule is laid down that the association would have only five to six members. If that's the case, so be it. It has been mentioned here that I have disclosed things said in private conversations. I had lot of private conversions such as with George Pinto, Cornel (to give but two names) and I have not disclosed what I talked with them. I can only say that I gave more details on Aloysius Vaz instead of just briefly saying that he was diagnosed with cancer and that he has fully recovered. I was aware of his health condition but the reason I mentioned Al at all was Kevin stated that (although there were other equally deserving candidates) the award was given to Al considering that he was as good as terminally ill. I have apologized to Al saying I meant no harm and that it was just incidental that I had to mention him to lend force to a point I was making regarding the awards. When one gets a public award, the person comes under public scrutiny. I have been called lot of names following my posts. The one that takes the cake is from Floriano Lobo. As someone who himself has dabbled in journalism or still does, Floriano should know better what separates gossip and analysis. JC calls me fukot and Floriano has added another word to it, though I am not sure if it is a Hindi swear word. If so, I am surprised it passed the moderator. Let me say that I paid for an extra copy of the convention souvenir. I got one copy as part of the welcome bag given to each delegate. For another copy, Ben said it would cost me ten dollars. I duly paid. I have a piece in the souvenir. Ben distributed FREE copies at the Grand Ball, leaving one copy at each table. Was the souvenir worth ten dollars? There are already rumblings about the next convention. I too feel it should be a bi-annual event. After being allotted the next convention, Rene reminded me of what I had told him during our meeting in London in the early 1990s. He told me that I had said that London was an ideal place to hold a convention because it is centrally located. Toronto is at one end of the world and Goa is at another. This subject of allotments and future conventions can await
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
To Goanet - Santosh Helekar wrote: I guess this is an admission that there is no unique singular Goan identity. You are still guessing about this? Reminds me of what Einstein once said of a scientist: The man can calculate but he can't think. So when he zooms the camera on Arwin's identity, Rajan's identity and Romlo's identity, he finds that they are all very different. Hallelujah! Does this mean you have stopped guessing? Will you take your test now or do you need more time to prepare? Santosh Helekar is here on Goanet and not on BihariNet or AndhraNet or BongNet or TamilNet or KannadaNet for no other reason other than he identifies himself with Goans and the Goan milieu. On all those other *Nets he would be quickly laughed out of town as an outsider. So while he rambles on about how there is no unique Goan Identity, he simultaneously seeks comfort here in the embrace and warmth of the very Identity he professes doesn't exist uniquely, namely the Goan Identity. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Next Toronto Convention in 2010?
The Toronto Convention website http://www.2008goanconvention.com/ has this text scrolling across the screen NEXT TORONTO INTERNATIONAL GOAN CONVENTION: 28th - 31st JULY, 2010. EARLY-BIRD REGISTRATION CLOSES 31st DECEMBER, 2009. TODAY IS 13th AUGUST, 2008 - THERE ARE 714 DAYS LEFT FOR THE CONVENTION! Is this true. Another International Convention in 2010? I wish GNAT President, Francis Rodrigues, would break his uncanny silence on matters regarding the Toronto Convention. I find Kevin, Mervyn, Lisette and others valiantly defending against critics on this and other forums but it is most strange that the otherwise very vocal Francis remains silent. Or maybe, like the GBA in Goa, there is more to Committees than meets the eye? Cheers! Cecil
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
By its very nature, tolerance is only possible as individual act that you or I can bestow. You cannot force tolerance upon others to accept as a way of life, even for one second, those who prefer not to accept this rule are not necessary intolerant either. Tolerance can be catching.. much like a cold or fever, but not create the heat or the other extreme, cold. By example you can gain much by tolerating certain (non-violent, non-malevolent) acts. Somewhere in-between I suppose, is tolerance. I learned a bit of it from being a husband a father, I had none of it as a child or a friend... Shame really, I may have well found a way to accept EVERYTHING that is written by some posters, but choose not to, oh well its cause I am part of the human condition. It would be nice thought if we had mentors, gurus at an earlier age.. in life's ways.. John Monteiro. Regards John Monteiro
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.parrikar.org/misc/Insiders-Outsiders.pdf The following are excerpts from Insiders and Outsiders By Rajan P. Parrikar Published on Goanet on Friday, Dec 21, 2007 Consider the Goan Identity as a starting point. We may zoom down into this parent Identity and within it locate islets of constituent Identities threaded to it: the Goan Hindu Identity, the Goan Catholic Identity, and so on. We further break down the Goan Hindu Identity into, say, the Bamon Identity, the Daivadnyas, the Gomant Maratha Samaj Identity, etc. You can slice it in directions other than caste or religion. For instance, within the Goan Identity you could tease out the Sashtikaar Identity, the Bardezkaar Identity, etc. Still more Identities may be extracted from these sub-Identities. Mario observes: Rajan, Even after re-defining ancestry as identity and zooming in and out as convenient to the point of your essay, you have also eloquently made the point, perhaps unintentionally, that there is no one Goan identity, and you have done so better than anyone else:-)) While, as a Capitalist, I heartily endorse the final conclusion of your essay, even while I may disagree with how you got there, surely you know from living in the USA that it is Capitalism that considers all men and women to be created equal, just some more equal than others [:-))] whereas Marxists distinguish between the elite who know what's good for everyone else better than they do, and everyone else:-)) In writing your essay, you have also passionately continued the well-known Indian tradition of doggedly dividing themselves into sub-groups and building often impenetrable walls between each other with your use of ancestry and sub-ancestries to defend your notion of who is an Insider and who is an Outsider. Take my identity as an example. I was born and grew up in Madhya Pradesh as essentially a Catholic Bhayya, to parents of Goan ancestry. I am now an American of Indian-Goan ancestry, with my Bhayya youth somewhere in my subconscious. In some sense I am a congenital Outsider. Some considered me an Outsider in MP. Others, including some virulent Hindu-supremacists who knew me well, did not, probably because my inclusive attitude and all-around achievements as a student-athlete and patriot completely undermined their notions of supremacy. Some may consider me an Outsider in Goa, others may not. Believe me, I can play both roles equally well now that I'm a part-time Ponjekar:-)) As someone who grew up in one democracy and is now a citizen of two democracies, do I care? Of course not. There is one salient fact that seems to supercede these often jejune concerns of Insider, Outsider, Goan, non-Goan. Let's call it R-E-A-L-I-T-Y based on tangible, often brutal, facts. The opposite of this is E-M-O-T-I-O-N and S-E-N-T-I-M-E-N-T based on hopes and dreams and fantasies. The reality is that, as King Canute proved to skeptics centuries ago, there are certain things one cannot stop. He could not stop the tide from coming in, just as Goans cannot stop other Indians from coming in either, rant and rave as they might. Years ago we couldn't stop European colonialism. Later the colonialists couldn't stop us. Now Goans cannot stop non-Goans. Deal with it. The trick in coping with all the angst is an Americanism you must be familiar with, When life hands you lemons, don't suck them, make lemonade! Goans, especially vociferous and opinionated leaders like yourself, need to differentiate between the Outsiders like the Celinas, Katrinas, Twinkles, and others less well known, who come in and enhance Goa, and those whom you have spent a good deal of time and money railing against and opposing, those who want to deface Goa for their own benefit. Paradoxically, the latter group includes several Insiders, which makes kheema out of the notion that this issue can be simplified to a tussle between Insiders and Outsiders, or Goans and non-Goans.
[Goanet] 2008 Toronto Internationl Convention
I write this to all those who attended the Toronto Convention and left enriched. There have been many positive notes and phone calls from those who came with open minds and left with greater possibilities to question and enrich their worlds. Thank you for your kind words and support. We believe that much good has come out of the convention and more inroads have been made towards awareness of the destruction that is happening in our ancestral land. People with intelligence and true charitable hearts are already asking how can I help? Why is Goa so important to my grandparents, parents or me ? Several positive comments and action lists have been put in place by Goa Sudharop,( http://www.goasudharop.org/) and have germinated directly from the convention. With like-minded individuals, our community can be one of solidarity and progress. It was Kevin's and my dream, with the help of our committee, to reach the small percentage in our community that cared . it appears that our vision has become a reality. Thanks to famous architect Dean D'Cruz, and International Fashion designer Wendell Rodricks, who made emotionally stirring presentations at the Convention, and organizations like Goa Sudharop who will strive to implement plans that affect individual mind-sets through education and examplechange has begun Of particular interest was the Identity forums. Youth and others left with their own personal search as to what connects one individually to the identity of being Goan. There is no right answer, but we were left with several roads to personal discovery and thought. We have found that youth in the Canadian Diaspora are quite unaware of the history of Goa. To our surprise when they were presented with Goa's history from third century BC to 2008, they were awed and hungry for more. What I have learnt is that engaging youth within their own Goan community, when abroad, is always a challenge and takes a conscious effort from the preceding generations to reach out and educate them. Christine Pinto made a valid observation when she said that first generation immigrants were much too busy finding new jobs, making ends meet and generally getting used to their new surroundings, that exchanging cultural knowledge between parents and children is not a priority, and is often lost. Andrea D' Sylva, in her presentation reminded us that in the 'New Country while we strive to integrate outside the home, and children become 'Westernized, one still comes home to Goan cooking in most families. Hence while language and other cultural ties are lost, one still identifies with their ancestral homeland through cuisine At the end of the three days, even though I was exhausted and often did not have the luxury of listening to a complete presentation uninterrupted, I found that the presenters had given me a new outlook, and left me with many personal questions and opportunities to positively make a difference. Here are some comments from youth that attended the identity workshop, and show the same thread of wanting to stay connected. I did enjoy the session, especially the history that I learned about Goa. I had no idea it became a legal state of India in 1987! Please keep me informed if you have any other events similar to this, involving the youth in the Goan community. I found the workshop amazing! I love the way the facilitators naturally made a progression throughout the workshop - starting on individual responses then moving towards a collective unit. Excellent job by Ms. Pinto and her husband! I definitely plan on staying involved with the Goan community and I thank you for the opportunity to come! Lastly, I would like to share something that was written to Kevin and myself from Albert D'Cruz, Perth, Australia, It is said: COMING TOGETHER IS A BEGINNING KEEPING TOGETHER IS PROGRESS WORKING TOGETHER IS SUCCESS. It would seem you have endeavoured to fulfil all these ideals in one go. Well done Lissette, Kevin and all those who gave so much of their time and energy to make the events a success. We came together at the Lisbon and Toronto Conventions, now let us keep together and work together towards success as a community, and start by supporting Rene Baretto in his initiative to hold the next 2009 convention in the UK. It is not only possible but WILL happen if we can be encouraging and supportive. Kevin and myself have shown that you do not need large organizations and thousands of people to engage in new ideas and change. For us all the established Goan Organizations in Toronto that we approached declined to host the 2007 convention, but gave us their full-hearted blessing. Thanks to Virginia Gomes, The Lisbon convention was small but incredibly informative and friendly. We learnt from them in this respect. We found that smaller groups leave with new ideas, new friends, and a feeling of belonging. You can count on Kevin and myself being at the UK convention next year!! - Lisette Saldanha
[Goanet] reply to Gilbert
Hi Gilbert, Let me try to reply to your questions Without going into too much detail because you can always read more about it in our site www.casadegoa.org, our aims for the Lisbon Convention were to celebrate the Goan Diaspora and the individual and collective contributions to the societies in which we live as well as to reinforce second and third generation Goans in their efforts to keep “Goanity” alive in the future whatever that might mean in different economic, social and cultural contexts. We are not sure of what it means and therefore we invited second and third generation Goans to give us their understanding of the issue. That discussion took place in the last evening of the Convention and the results are reflected in the conclusions of the Global Goan Youth First Round Table. For the achievements, we suggested 8 themes (fine arts, literature, music, education, entrepreneurship, media, information technologies and volunteering) sent them around to the associations and individuals whose mailing address we had and asked for the inclusion of other themes and for potential takers who would relate such achievements to their integration process in the communities where they live and their children are now growing up. We also disseminated the invitation through the Net. As you know, we are not an official institution neither do we know all the achievers form the various parts of the Goan world. Even if we did, we would not be able to invite them all because we do not have the capacity to organise such a huge event, nor would it suit our objectives. What we did was to ask anyone who considered himself as an achiever to inform us of the reasons he /she did so and to volunteer to participate. We were aware that we ran the risk of being misunderstood in so far as the Convention might have turned into a self-glorification exercise. But in our assessment the risk paid off. People shared their achievements, put them in the “Goan” context and also pointed out collective problems (non-achievements). In all fairness, Gilbert, we only got to know many of the participants from abroad and their work better as the Convention correspondence progressed. For sure, if the Convention had taken place in another country and at another time, perhaps a different set of participants would have been inclined to participate. One never knows! The participants who came to Lisbon certainly had a lot to share and they did so. Regarding the number of participants, of course we would have wanted many more people to attend but we were not disappointed that we had around 120 participants. One of the problems was that the schedule was too packed and people were very tired towards the end of the day that was entirely devoted to the presentations. My personal opinion after years of involvement in many of Casa de Goa’s activities is that different people are interested in different activities and the challenge is to cater to these different interests, if possible. Not all associations can do so and therefore the next best option is to identify what a particular association can do best and then stick to it. Not all associations can be mass associations. Finally, I am all in favour of sharing the lessons we have learnt in these last 2 conventions, in whatever way the organisers of the coming Convention find most adequate. That is the gist of the final comments of Part II of my report that I have just sent. Thanks for the positive reinforcement of your last paragraph. At Casa de Goa, we certainly treasure our Convention experience. Best regards, Virginia Bras Gomes _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] Benaulim Protests online
August 10, 2008 was one more historical day in the life of Benaulim village. Our dictatorial Sarpanch Carmelin Fernanades called for the meeting to discuss the pending problems with builder wanting to promote mega projects in our village. She circulated invitation to public to come for the meeting as well as brought in 2 buses of Policemen some in full fledged riot gears and armed with riffles Read more with pictures on Benaulim Village Action Committe. http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ Sebastian Rodrigues _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] Goan Crab Mentality
Bear with me if I turn out to be the last crab creeping in on the scene. In compliance with the Code of Susegad Traffic, I hobble sideways. That way, I am not in conflict with those driven to forge ahead using GPS and CET (Caste Evading Technology). The crab mentality is distinctly different from the Goan psyche. While it takes an inveterate crab 5 pairs of limbs and the camaraderie of every other conniving pair of limbs to bring a fellow crab down, a Goan can single-handedly accomplish the feat by simply wielding the caste or literati lathi! In reality, no scrolls exist pointing to the vaddo where the first basket came into being, or to which predominating caste, color or creed was the fibrous material in that accursed weaving attributed. However, when Goans kept pulling their fellow Goans down, migrant crabs found an opening and merrily rushed to the aid of those wishing to get out of the basket. Today, there aren’t too many authentic crabs left in the Goan basket – just the proliferation of migrant crabs. And if a prodigal Goan is condescending a return to the basket, it will be to the somber awakening that other than for the priest in the confessional, no one else speaks Konkani! On a heartening, uphill fact -- there have been a series of mighty goodhearted efforts over the years to weave baskets overseas. But before any could become tangible enough to preserve the Goan identity, there would be a vying to get out using extension ladders, jackhammers or TNTs. Hopefully someday, a celestial wand might purge us of Goanism and gift us with a Noah well versed in roman and devnagiri scripts -- who can weave a basket structural enough to house compatible crabs and paddle them out of our ever thickening morass! Dom Martin See the Internet how it was meant to be seen with Cable Internet. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mDL5cPTPxCjraXWbLOaHrEfl1h1HcAQ292AdGowwi9vqvql/
[Goanet] Goa news for August 14, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa govt in quandary over denotifying SEZs - Economic Times [Aug 11, 2008] NEW DELHI : The Centre, which has not taken any step till now to denotify the SEZs as demanded by the state, may do so only if the Goa government is able to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Economy/Goa_govt_in_quandary_over_SEZs/articleshow/3353991.cmscid=1236048747ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNFD0fYTouD4w54P0pN9c4DDpKqRTA *** Goa\'s complete online news edition - Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] TO BROTHER WITH LOVE: A girl selecting a rakhifor her brother at a shop in the city on Tuesday. Raksha Bandhan a #152;bond of protection from brothers to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8272cid=1cid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNFU7rs1eJjR9rUZc2iF7Kr0sXUlPA *** Landslides hit milk supply - Times of India [23 hours ago] PANAJI/VASCO/MARGAO: With landslides and uprooted trees holding up traffic on highways leading to Goa, milk went off the shelves in many parts of the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Landslides_hit_milk_supply/articleshow/3358803.cmscid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNHOLCiSZkSDBFWNwWF29arpVuRX7w *** Goa Marriott organises Independence Week food festival - Economic Times [Aug 11, 2008] 11 Aug, 2008, 1704 hrs IST, PTI NEW DELHI: Five-star luxury resort Goa Marriott on Monday announced that it is organising a 10-day-long food festival to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/Goa_Marriott_organises_Independence_Week_food_festival/articleshow/3352586.cmscid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNEFMNzUWV6ke20GUF3vOcRC-juG7A *** Heavy rains continue to lash Maharashtra, Goa - Hindu [Aug 11, 2008] Mumbai (PTI): Heavy rains continued to lash Maharashtra and Goa on Monday as one person was washed away at Nashik and people living alongside the Mutha ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200808111552.htmcid=1235728873ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNGX1M1cmXzNUGX2iMbAmOLTJemY6w *** Flood threatens Goa - Hindu [Aug 10, 2008] Sankhalim (Goa) (PTI): District administration warily eyed the Valvonti river swollen by the incessant rain as the residents here spent their entire night ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/00420080801.htmcid=1235767494ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNG0xSEI38xwLF-sfQ9szvJJDQBBlg *** Peace panel to be formed in South Goa - Times of India [Aug 11, 2008] MARGAO: South Goa collector GP Naik has proposed to constitute a three tier peace committee for managing conflict situations arising in south Goa district. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Peace_panel_to_be_formed_in_South_Goa/articleshow/3354046.cmscid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNFiw6uo1i6Wbp8yflmyw-DfxF2sgg *** Prefer Sesa Goa to Resurgere Mines IPO - Moneycontrol.com [15 hours ago] So Sesa Goatoo has corrected. So maybe the timing is bad which is why it is not getting enough subscription. But you look at the size of the companies and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/news/ipo-issues-open/prefer-sesa-goa-to-resurgere-mines-ipo/12/56/351778cid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNFqyJ4Z5o6Px45HXWkYjNB3kJeSAg *** Goa is the place to be for Bollywood - Hindustan Times [Aug 12, 2008] Goa is definitely the favourite holiday spot for most Bollywood celebrities. From Esha Deol and Arshad Warsi to Imtiaz Ali and Malaika Arora Khan - they all ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=63c9edc2-aad9-4eaf-bb1b-4bada15ab17fParentID=2112fc58-e762-4cad-afbe-6a57c896882bcid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNF1zjPB84q1kMRI595DaY7kjpbTVw *** \'Holiday Home Complex\' to come up in Goa for railway employees - Business Standard [15 hours ago] PTI / Mumbai August 13, 2008, 13:32 IST Konkan Railway is constructing a Holiday Home Complex near Madgaon station in Goa for railway employees in the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?tp=onautono=44642cid=0ei=eG6jSM7bFJTAlgTzwNiCBgusg=AFQjCNEMf_34z09PqVe4r64JTaVttEWJfA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Re.Apology: 1980 Olympics Winners - Re: 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection
Dear Augusto, Sometime mistakes are good to tell the truth. You rightly pointed out about state of affairs in most of Goa's sports Associations. Please also take correctives steps within your means. Shrikant Vinayak Barve Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
[Goanet] Ritu Prasad's presentation ... on land use changes in Goa
Do check this: http://www.divshare.com/download/5168808-4d9 Show More Sharing Options A very interesting and useful presentation ... to understand issues in contemporary Goa. -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] NEWS: Rajan Narayan stands by remarks against Fr Maverick {Gomantak Times}
MEDIA TRIAL By A Staff Reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED] PANJIM: No sooner his weekly 'Goan Observer' hit the stands on Saturday, August 9, little did Editor Rajan Narryan realise what was in store for him. More particularly, as he cast aspersions on Fr Maverick Fernandes' attitude in matters vis-a-vis the formulation of the Regional Plan 2021. Despite a gherao immediately thereafter, Narayan has remained firm, unrepentant and has steadfastly refused to apologise for his remarks. I will not apologise to Fr Maverick. I stand by my writing. However, if Fr Maverick wants to respond, I will publish his version, Narayan told GT. In his weekly column, Narayan alleged that Fr Maverick, who heads the Council for Social Justice and Peace and is a member of the core committee of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan, was deliberately obstructing the formulation of a Regional Plan 2021. He quoted Fr Maverick Fernandes as having told the core group, Let the chaos continue. The GBA has seen an ideological split over the incorporation of the 73rd and 74th Amendments to the Constitution of the Regional Plan 2021. Fr Maverick does not understand the consequences of an indefinite delay in the Regional Plan 2021, which suits the politicians and the land sharks, Narayan told GT. On Saturday, the agitators wanted Narayan to apologise for his writings against Fr Maverick. Narayan however stood his ground. The agitators who gheraoed me comprised of Charles Fernandes of SEZ Virodhi Manch, Geraldine Fernandes of Benaulim Villagers' Action Committee and about 50 others. They said I have insulted Fr Maverick. They threatened to break the telephones, called me a Keralite and said I have taken money from builders. This is an act of goondagiri. I have a right to express my point of view, said Narayan. Surprisingly, Narayan did not even deem it fit to contact Fr Maverick to elicit his point of view. I follow a different pattern. I know that he (Fr Maverick) said it. I have stated it in my column. The onus of letting me or Goa know about his point of view is his responsibility, he said. * * * FR MAVERICK REACTS Fr Maverick Fernandes has categorically stated that he was not involved with the gherao of Goan Observer editor Rajan Narayan. I don't know about the gherao. I came to know of it only in the evening. He expressed disappointment over the gherao. On Saturday afternnon, Rajan Narayan phoned the Bishop's Palace, accusing me of sending goons to gherao him. At 8 pm that day, Rajan sent me an SMS asking me not to send chamchas and goons to intimidate him, remarked Fr Maverick. Fr Maverick, however, did not deny the statement, Let the chaos continue, attributed to him by Narayan in his column. We want to explain the context of this whole issue which we feel has been vitiated by Narayan. We are coming up with a press statement today (August 13) to clarify my position, he added. ENDS Gomantak Times, August 13, 2008. Page 1.
[Goanet] New peoples party
This is in reply to Message:6,dated Tue, 12 Aug 2008 under title - CRZ V/s CMZ AND Message: 6, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008 under title - A New People's Party Needed - Irineu Gonsalves in Goan Observer ( Aug 9-15, 2008) Floriano appears to be getting smarter and to the point after Citizens Initiative (CI). I think, its time, Floriano organizes next CI Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Re. Goan Identity
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:47:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To Goanet - Rajan: Well put below..Mario Goviea fall into the same category. If Goan Identity is Mythical as claimed by these 2 prodigals then Goanet should also be mythical to them? Arwin. Santosh Helekar is here on Goanet and not on BihariNet or AndhraNet or BongNet or TamilNet or KannadaNet for no other reason other than he identifies himself with Goans and the Goan milieu. On all those other *Nets he would be quickly laughed out of town as an outsider. So while he rambles on about how there is no unique Goan Identity, he simultaneously seeks comfort here in the embrace and warmth of the very Identity he professes doesn't exist uniquely, namely the Goan Identity. Warm regards, r End of Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1016 *** -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : Heavy rains likely to lash Mumbai, Goa
This message was sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED], as a service of dnaindia.com -- Comments from sender : Good Morning Goanetters. PLEASE TAKE CARE. MAKE SURE YOU'RE WEARING SAFETY HELMETS AS YOU FLY ABOUT ON YOUR VESPAS/ENFIELDS/DUCATIS. THE STATE OF THE ROADS IS A DISGRACE! GOOD LUCK. rubygoes -- Full Story can be found at http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1182855 Heavy rains likely to lash Mumbai, Goa More heavy rains are likely to hit the city and its suburbs in the next two days not withstanding a temporary respite this morning = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = For news updates throughout the day, visit dnaindia.com http://www.dnaindia.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = © 2005-2008 Diligent Media Corporation Ltd. All rights reserved.
[Goanet] Goan Crab Mentality
HI All, Precisely: I too don't know what YOU are ON about. The chap who started it has a personal grudge against one person (unfortunately) and he wants to vent his anger via Goanet and call all Goans, crabs (not the crabs you are talking about, running fast backwards and sidesways and of different colour etc). He is looking to form a Goan crab society, he is specifically looking for GOOD and BAD Goan crabs. He started this topic not a couple of days but a couple of years ago, he has started it again. --- Freddy said: The crab mentality thing has been on for a couple of days now, people do you have a clue to what you are talking about, I don't know who started this crab mentality stuff but I am sure he too did not know what he was talking about. I will disperse your doubts with just a few examples. These BL@@!y crabs are so expensive I cant even afford - ONE. -- Freedy said: 1) Get a hundred odd crabs (there are different types of crabs) may be just a single type or mixture of different types and leave them in the open and see what happens, NO! they dont!! I remember when I was young my mum bought a 'Curlianchi Ganton', she freed than in a bucket, they all went on one side, toppled the bucket and escaped, I could not catch them, they had open claws. - Freddy said: 3) Now comes the interesting point, put these crabs in a container where they cannot hook their claws on to the side, like a plastic drum or bucket and not just see but observe what happens, there will be chaos as they try to escape running around in circles over and over again and once they realize there in no escape route they will settle down in a heap, Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So while he rambles on about how there is no unique Goan Identity, he simultaneously seeks comfort here in the embrace and warmth of the very Identity he professes doesn't exist uniquely, namely the Goan Identity. Ignoring the inconsequential emotional remarks in the rest of Rajan's latest post, in the above excerpt, he appears to be confused about the meaning of the words unique and identity! It should be obvious to anybody that there is nothing unique about being part of a mailing list whose members have some association with your place of birth, and there is nothing unique about being born in any place on earth. We also know that the 10,000 or so members of Goanet have tens, if not hundreds, of different identities. Now, as for what he says below, we know that no Kannadiga, Bihari, Andhra or Tamilian has ever been laughed out of town on Goanet, despite being abused by a few Goans like Rajan who happen to believe that they are unique. Cheers, Santosh P.S. I ask Rajan to tell me what similarities (in their many identities) does he see between him and Arwin when he zooms his camera on them, and why is he more different from Vidyadhar than from Arwin. --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh Helekar is here on Goanet and not on BihariNet or AndhraNet or BongNet or TamilNet or KannadaNet for no other reason other than he identifies himself with Goans and the Goan milieu. On all those other *Nets he would be quickly laughed out of town as an outsider.
[Goanet] REF: NGOs Where do you get your money from
This post is in reply to the following article Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 From: Cecil Pinto Subject: [Goanet] NGOs: Where do you get your money from? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The column below appeared in OPinionatED - Herald, Goa on 8th August 2008 NGOs: Where do you get your money from? By Sujay Gupta Cecil, what is your opinion on this article ? or is it just posted for our info ? First and fore most, why did the NGO's come into existence ? It's entirely because of the non performance of our elected members of different public bodies or better still if I say, for the outstanding performance of our elected members of different public bodies in amassing unlimited wealth by what ever means possible for themselves and aggravating, grievances of the general public. If these elected members had worked for the good of the people and of the land sincerely, we would not be having this discussion or the NGO's around, would we ? I agree with Sujay Gupta on one issue, transparency, all public bodies including NGO's should be made transparent, in the wake of the terrorist activities linked to NGO's its become even more vital that they are made transparent, and which body should be given the responsibility ? A good question. Now, the Election Commission has laid down a rule that people who wish to stand for election should declare all their assets and be accountable for it. If this rule was strictly enforced how many of the elected members (present) would be in the Assembly or the Parliament right now ? Which particular body has the responsibility of investigating the assets of the Politicians and are they doing their jobs right ? Or are they all totally blind ? What were these politicians before they joined politics and how come they have so much now ? For all we know they could be the ones funding the wrong groups, is it not possible ? Mr. Gupta you are barking at the wrong tree. You are trying to block the passage of an ant and allow the elephant to pass by. I agree, not all NGO's are genuine and some of them have their own agendas, in those cases, you being a reporter, If you have the proof in the Candolim issue, why don't you file a PIL against them and expose them ? or don't you have the balls for that. May be since you have been singing praises of the mining lobby you may find somebody who has balls in there to finance you. Mr. Gupta, which opening of yours works faster and better, the one that you eat with or the one that you throw out ? Which part of your anatomy does think of the lofty judgments that the NGO's want all mines shut down ? All over Goa, the people of Goa are asking for closing down of illegal mines which have suddenly popped up or starting operations after remaining dormant for a number of years and question the ones that are running legally, if they are following all the procedures including environmental protection and pollution which are very vital for our survival. Is that wrong, or are we not allowed to questions in a democracy where our lives and our future are at stake ? I come from one such village where we the villagers opposed the mining activities, and the NGO's have guided us and rightly at that, if you were a native of one of those villages you would know what the ills of mining are. Mr. Gupta you are not a Goan by birth, you are here only to make a fast buck like so many others who think Goa is a goose that lays golden eggs, but don't you dare to make those bucks at the cost of Goa and Goans by supporting the mining barons for their money. It is very dangerous and could be very unhealthy too, to play with the feelings of the people when they are victimized and tortured. Before I end, can you investigate the corporate that you support and let us know how much money goes in to the pockets of our corrupt politicians to support all their illegal activities ? Freddy Agnelo Fernandes D G Jones International Ltd. Dubai Mall - Project P.O. Box 62256 Dubai United Arab Emirates Tel: 00971 44073599 Mob : 00971 50 541 7001 The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email
[Goanet] REF: Goan Crab Mentality
This post is in response to Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Crab Mentality Freddy, Freddy, Freddy, Calm down, man:-)) I really think you need to loosen your kashtie, just a little bit:-)) We all love to eat crabs. But take a look at the subject line of your post. The operative word is mentality. You have described the crab mentality, whether Goan or otherwise, better than anyone else when you said, ...stay away from their big snapping claws.:-)) That's what we're talking about, big snapping claws - Goa style:-)) Mario, I think you have understood my precise point more than others, have you gone close to crabs in their natural habitat ? As soon as you wade in to water where there are crabs they will not pull up their scissors and come snapping at you, initially they will move away from you or try the camouflage, it's only when they are threatened that they come snapping at you, so, isn't that self preservation ? Which is in fact universal mentality so why only Goans should be labeled crab mentality ? What do you do when you are cornered ? I am sure most humans or most species at that, would surely defend themselves or at least try to defend themselves isn't that natural and why should only Goans fold their scissors and tuck them in their pockets a wait for doom's day. The way things are going on in Goa, corruption, mega housing, mining and all the other evils including drugs and murders shouldn't we all in fact sharpen our claws and start snapping before we loose all of Goa's natural beauty and resources ? Now who needs to loosen his kashtie my friend ? In fact we all should be tightening our kashties Freddy Agnelo Fernandes D G Jones International Ltd. Dubai Mall - Project P.O. Box 62256 Dubai United Arab Emirates Tel: 00971 44073599 Mob : 00971 50 541 7001 The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
Re: [Goanet] Benaulim Protests online
I wonder how long can this tamasha go on!!! It is the same story in each and every village in Goa. What is the use of calling such meetings if the sarpanch does not have answers to any of the questions? People no longer have any faith in their representatives, who hardly care as of now, since it is a long way off till the next elections. If the elected members of the society are not in sync with the same people who have elected them, then the definition of democracy needs to be changed to 'by the people, but of corruption, and for money'!!! Poor old Abe must surely be turning in his grave because of this great mistake of his in understanding democracy; can someone appoint an ad-hoc committee to modify the Gettysburg Address? :-) Regards, Prasad Vaman Raicar Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:55:33 +0530 From: sebastian Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Benaulim Protests online To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 August 10, 2008 was one more historical day in the life of Benaulim village. Our dictatorial Sarpanch Carmelin Fernanades called for the meeting to discuss the pending problems with builder wanting to promote mega projects in our village. She circulated invitation to public to come for the meeting as well as brought in 2 buses of Policemen some in full fledged riot gears and armed with riffles Read more with pictures on Benaulim Village Action Committe. http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ Sebastian Rodrigues Thanks Regards, Prasad Vaman Raicar P Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. Spread environmental awareness. Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. www.wipro.com
[Goanet] MELBOURNE: Its time again for some Goan tango!
Its time again for some Goan tango! Goans in Melbourne are set to celebrate their sixth annual World Goa Day with family and friends on Saturday 23 August 2008. In order to accomodate the larger numbers attending this year, the gala event will be held at the Springvale City Hall in Springvale. And for the young ones - belt up for some youthful entertainment in the annexe hall with A. Pros' Light Sound - a Professional DJ. And for the young-at-heart, the occasion will be celebrated at two venues! Away from the booming music for the young, the main hall will lilt with Joe and his Soul Mates. The annual celebrations commemorate the recognition of Konkani as their 'mai bhas' with this year's celebrations especially themed as Proud villages of Goa. The past World Goa Day events have proven to be the medium for old friends and new Goan arrivals in Melbourne to come together, a showcase of Goan culture and a night to soak up Goan hospitality, enjoy the mouthwatering Goan cuisine and tango to some Goan music. This year promises to be even better with 2 settings and for the first time in Melbourne ever - their very own Goan Elvis Presley Floor show! Of course the live band will, as usual, include a large repertoire of music and attendees will be regaled with a little of Goan music too. Enquiries about the evening can be made with Oscar Lobo on 03 9563 9918 or 0404 848 345. Source: Bharat Times, Melbourne, Australia - August 2008
