[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
There are 37 million poor Americans. Most poor Americans are in the workforce, yet still cannot afford to make ends meet (one can imagine it by the numbers of house foreclosures each month). And too many poor Americans are single mothers who are raising children, probably depend on welfare and no 'medical coverage'. There is no more fundamental American right than the right to vote. Before the landmark 1965 Voting Rights Act, barriers such as literacy tests, poll taxes and property requirements disenfranchised many Americans, especially minorities. More than 40 years later, there are still numerous obstacles to ensuring that every citizen has the ability to vote. Barack Obama intends to implement a 21st century economic agenda to help ensure that America can compete in a global economy, and ensure the middle class is thriving and growing. He will increase investments in infrastructure (which is falling behind, it's nuclear reactors are becoming old). Nuclear plants, wind produce environmentally clean energy, reduce dependence on foreign oil, improve education, research and development; modernize and simplify tax code that provides greater opportunity and relief to more Americans; He intends to mplement trade policies that benefit American workers and increase the export of American goods. Before the war in Iraq ever started, Senator Obama said that it was wrong in its conception. In 2002, then Illinois State Senator Obama said Saddam Hussein posed no imminent threat to the United States and that invasion would lead to an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. Since then, Senator Obama has laid out a plan on the way forward in Iraq that has largely been affirmed by the bipartisan Iraq Study Group led by James Baker and Lee Hamilton. Just imagine the amount America has so far spent on Iraq, despite all that the absolute winner is Iran, as Shia majority that is ruling Iraq, has more loyalty to fellow Shia Iran, the invasion induced Al-Qaida to establish in Iraq, the Sunnis are given incentives to contain violence, and even Hezbollah has become part of the Lebanese government. The money saved from Iraq will help American domestic economy. India's domestic economy is flourishing so much, it does not even has to look out for export. In fact when they controlled export of rice, the price went up in no timein Canada! and consumers began hoarding rice! In fact I heard quite a few Americans are working in Bangalore! Finally it is not so easy to abruptly stop the already outsourced jobs, as the cost of relocating them back to USA may be prohibitive. Without prejudice and information obtained from the world Wide Web. Maurice D.
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Of late increasing blasts and waves of violence are rocking city after city in India. After every blast or violence one or other outfits / mastermind is named as suspect. Thereafter that case(s) is transferred from the Police to the Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) and then from the ATS to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI). And finally 'Operation Cover-up' takes place only with a covert view not to punish the culprit(s). This raises the obvious question: does continuance of intimidation indicate that our apex investigation agencies or judiciary are not discharging their functional duties as is required? There might be "n" numbers of reasons for initiating 'Operation Cover-up' as there might be equal numbers of reasons for terrorism activities flaring up. Considering the gravity of "n" numbers, government's action plan as is being suggested by intellectuals need not only be zero tolerance but must also be zero chances approach. In this context let's see, one among many, Zero chance measure that would have complimented to normalize the turbulent situation long back. But no, it's still kept brewing for vote bank politics!! Recently at the annual conference of State Minorities Commissions in New Delhi, our beloved Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh stressed pluralism of the Indian culture saying "India does not belong to any single race and that it belongs to a mosaic of religiously, linguistically and culturally varied communities ... India must remain a nation where pluralism and socio-religious variety are respected. In a pluralistic society like ours, national identity cannot be adjudged by any litmus test ... This nation does not belong to any single race." This expression is absolutely true and in line with the Constitution of India. But the biggest question is: Is his government practicing what he is preaching? On the contrary, his government is seen pampering "minorities" and yet not willing to finalize "minority" related 103rd Amendment - a perfect double role strategy which smells dubiousness. In this context, for better understanding, let me divide the period from 1540 to date into four phases. First phase: Times started becoming different from 1540 when Portuguese landed in Goa. That was a disturbing phase due to Inquisition and fervor of religious conviction either by force or by coercion. Phase Two: even after first phase, all Goans (Hindus, Christians and Muslims) lived in perfect harmony intermixing with each other. Third Phase: Our harmonically intermixing attitude turned our Goan mindset to get our Goa liberated from colonial bondage. We achieved what we wanted and again lived harmoniously. No signs of hatred at any level were visible. Fourth Phase: Today in liberated Goa we see disturbances from all fronts. Goans openly say "any thing can happen to our Goa at any time.. This is more because our politicians are pampering Influx, slum dwellers and the Minorities ". At the start of the fourth phase Goa did witness influx, slums, minorities but pampering attitude like today was hardly noticeable. All this is going on unnoticed only because the term "Minority" is not defined legally & logically nor any Intellectual, Individual, organization, or NGOs made any attempt to specify as to what parameters need to be considered to declare certain group as "Minority" in the state or nation. In 2005, politicians were literarily shaken by two judgments of apex court i.e. 1) T. M. A. Pai Foundation vs. State of Karnataka case, wherein eleven judges bench raised important question as to 'What is the meaning and content of the expression "minority" in Article 30 of the Constitution of India?'. This bench also spelt out that "Linguistic and religious minorities are covered by the expression "minority" under Article 30 of the Constitution. Since reorganization of the States in India has been on linguistic lines, therefore, for the purpose of determining the minority, the unit will be the State and not the whole of India. Thus, religious and linguistic minorities, who have been put on a par in Article 30, have to be considered state wise"; 2) Subsequent to this judgment, Supreme Court, after T. M. A. Pai Foundation case judgment, once again, in Bal Patil & Others vs. Union of India case reinterred the same stand. (Hence forth these two cases will be referred as "landmark judgments)'. Factually, for the Ministry of Minority Affairs in India, redefining "minority" state wise, in accordance with apex court's landmark judgments has become a task as tough as bringing out water from a rock. And the bill for giving constitutional status to National Commission for Minorities (NCM) is hanging since 2004 and in view of the sensitive issues involved in it nobody wants to put their hand in it. The Ministry is in a fix over defining the term "minority" for more than one reasons - firstly in view of the coming elections and secondly opposition from the so-called minorities. The cabinet cleared the official a
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation
Bosco wrote: > Question: Are you implying that you do not write to Goanet to antagonize and > provoke fellow Goanetters?? Bosco, I am on Goanet for only one reason: To learn. I think that life is to short to go around antagonizing people. I certainly do not want to be a provoker. Maybe in trying to amuse, I have crossed the line. However, I think people would inform me when that happens. > Request: When you see a poster use foul language or is often writing > provoking posts, please respond to the person publicly and tell him politely > what you think of his post. As I said in my first message, the easiest thing > to do is blame the moderators; don't fall for that. Be a part of the solution > of dealing with such posters who are here not in the interests of the > community at large. I always reply in private to an exceptional post. The problem is that when I tell a poster that his language is unacceptable, the reply I get is in worse language. Prime example is our photographer friend. And may I add that I was not the only person to experience foul language from him. Several other Goanetter's have posted what they have experienced when they told him privately what they felt about his language. There are serial/repeat offenders here. All you have to do is tell them to clean up their act or the moderators will do so. It is a pity that three or four posters have to consume most of the moderators time. Mervyn3.0 __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Mhojea Pustokak PUROSKAR Lablo?
Mhojea Pustokak PUROSKAR Lablo? Ghelea sumanant Setembrachea 28ver Aitara disa, Fonddem ravpi mhojea dusrea bhavagher ghel’lom. Tagelea cheddeacho zolm dis aslo. Soirim, xezarim, ixtt–mitr asun tagelem ghor bhoril’lem. Toddea soireanchi vollok kortana samkarachea dusrea flat-an ravpi tanchi ek xezarnn mhaka porbim diit uloili. “Aitaracheo Katkutleo pustokantle lekh vachtam-vachtam sonvsari rattovolichem vozonn tokler asa tem, unnem zata kai dista. Vachteleak hanspachim pirlam dileant. Ani itlench nhoi. Kalchea disa amche Kristi Somudayechea zomatin tujea pustokant aslolo “Duddvancho Zor Toklek Choddta Tedna” ho lekh vachun, ami tacher ‘niall’ kela. Khoreaninch, boro example tujea borpavollin tuvem dila. Dusrea-i vaddeantle Somudayek ami ulo marla ho lekh muzrot tanchea sumanache zomatimni vachun niall korcho mhunn. Amche Holy Family Somudayechea nanvan porbim tuka.” “Dev borem korum,” mhaka porbim dil’lea bodol hanvem tiche upkar attoile ani hanv dusrea kuddint vochun boslom. Itlean mhoji sundori (bail) aili ani mhojea vhoddlea bhavacho logn vad’dis (wedding anniversary) mhunn ugdass kelo. Sokallcho ak’khoch ades soddun donparchea vellar tinnem yad keli mhunn hanvem sundorecher xinn kelo. Punn tichi mhunn kosli chuk? Mhoje porim tichea mendvachi memory card piraye pormonnem unnem zait veta. “Happy wedding anniversary” mhoje sundore fattlean hanvem vhoddlea bhavak vad’ disache porbim dilelim tim svikar kortana tannem mhonnlem. “Az, amche Utodd’deche igorjentle padri vigaran, tuji khobor sanglea.” “Mhoji khobor? Ani kitem mhunn?” hanvem ojapun vichar kele. “Aichea sermavant, xezareamni koxe toren ekvottan cholunk zai te bhes bore nomune (examples) ditana tujea ‘Aitaracheo Katkutleo’ pustokantlo borea ani vaitt xezaream vixim ek lekh asa to igorjent ekvottlelea lokak vachla ani tujea borpavollichi tust kelea.” Bhavachim utram aikon mhoje khuxallkayek xim-mer na zali. Mhojea poilea pustokantlo ek lekh zaum ti Kristi Somudayen ani Igorjent pavo sarkelo astolo mhunn hanvem sopnant porian chintunk na. Mhojem pustok bhair sorlear ek mhoino zait ailo ani okosmat pustokachi tokhnnai dhormik mon’xanchea tonddantlean bair sorleli aikon khoinchea borovpeak obhiman bhogcho na? Hea vixim Vigar Fr. Britto Fernandes thaim vicharlem tedna tannem sanglem. “Todde pavtti boro vixei povitr vedicher ubo ravun amchea sermavant loka meren pavoitolo zalear dhormik pustokuch nhoi, punn lokachea jivitak lagu zatelim borpavoll tumchea oslea lekhokancho aspav asta mhunn lokak sangchelo kaido amcho. Tujea pustokan xazareanche ixttagotticher attapun aslolo lekh justush mhogelea aichea provochonan bostalo. Dekhunuch hanvem upeg korun xezareancho mog koso togunk zai to ugddas kela.” Foddemche Holy Family Somudayleant ani Fr. Britto koddlean vhodd vakanni mhaka eksarkeli favli ani mhaka ek puroskar vo award mell’lelea porim dislem. Dor ek potr-masikar ani internet-ar mhagelea lekham vixim toknnai toxich constructive ttika marlealeank hanvem sodanch ugtea monan mandun ghetleat ani tanche abar mandleat. Ani hech toren tumcho sohokar dusrea novea borovpeank mellot zalear Konknni mollar amkam anikui Konknniche fulte bonge melltele. Lino B. Dourado ‘AITARACHEO KATKUTLEO’ Pustok hangasor melltat: MARGOA: Zito Almeida (Cine Lata lagsor), Remedian Vaz Book Stall (Pornnem Bazarant). M P Raikar Book Stall (Bank of India lagsor), Narayan D. Munz (Bombay Café lagsor) PANJIM: Singbal’s Book House (Igorje lagsor), St. Paul ’s Book Store (Bombay Bazar lagsor) Varsha Book Stall (Ponnje-Betim dokea lagsor) PONDA: Roop Rohan Agency (Public Café lagsor) Parish Youth (Mount Carmel Chapel) PILAR: Prof. Jose Salvador Fernandes (9881810832) MAJORDA: Nile Gen. Store & Book Stall UTORDA: Parish Youth (O.L. of Lourdes Church )
[Goanet] Nostalgia #21
Nostalgia pic #21 __ 1924 - 2004: then and now - Secretariat, Panjim - 80 years apart. Apparently the oldest standing building in Panjim (Goa?), the Idalcao or Adil Shah's palace built in 1500, served as a rest- house for Portuguese Governors, then the Viceroy's residence after the 1759 remodeling. The picture on the left was taken half a dozen years after the 1918 cosmetic changes, when government departments like the Captain of Ports and the Attorney General started using it. After Liberation it became known as the "Secretariat" and housed the Legislative Assembly of the Goa government, on the banks of the Mandovi. The Pic on the right shows the Secretariat more recently - the Legislative Assembly has moved to the new complex at Porvorim. Back to Adil Shah! http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php Pictures - courtesy: Sanjeev Sardessai; Kenilworth Hotels. FR. _
[Goanet] Report on Bajrang Dal in India Today.
It is tragic that violence continues unabated against christians in Orissa for over a month without any state intervention. The allegations of 'forced conversions' levelled against christians has become a sic joke as reports of christians being terrorised under threat of death to renounce their religion and become hindus. Pl see report on Bajrang Dal in India Today. http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16652&Itemid=1&issueid=74§ionid=36&limit=1&limitstart=0 Regards, Marshall -- Will the all new Indica Vista zip ahead of the Suzuki Swift? Read the expert review on Zigwheels.com http://zigwheels.com/b2cam/reviewsDetails.action?name=Ro11_20080829&path=/INDT/Reviews/Ro11_20080829&page=1&pagecount=9
[Goanet] Goan music-9: HERALD(Goa), Oct 5, 2008
GOAN MUSIC-9 By Valmiki Faleiro Shankar Bhandari (1928-87), of the landed gentry of Cumbarjua, was a rare personage. A creative writer with unambiguous opinions, great wit and genuine Goan values, he crafted programmes for All India Radio. I longed to be in his presence, even if only for a few moments, when, as a casual artiste in my college days, I often went for ‘YuvaVani’ talk recordings – no, I can only croak, not sing! – at AIR’s Panjim studios. Pearls flowed from his fertile mind! One reason, perhaps, I was more impressed was that he hailed from the same village as that of my maternal grandfather – an exotic little “Republic” of my childhood images. Shankar Bhandari was a man of cool courage, and conviction. And one who defied the adage, ‘When the wine is in, the wit is out.’ True (not Dutch) courage it would take when, some years after 1961, he penned a verse on India’s ‘Ganarajya’ (Republic.) In that era, India was the only nation besides the Soviet Union to define “sedition” amongst the gravest offences under the penal law. ‘Ganarajya’ was a parody on India. Goa had been integrated into the Indian Union on March 27, 1962. Shankar Bhandari daringly asked: “Gonachem Ailam Raj / Khuincho Gana Konn Zanna?” The governance of ‘Gana’ has arrived (upon Goa), but who knows this ‘Gana’ or wherefrom (it comes)? In the name of ‘Gana,’ Andhra and Telangana fight each other. Maharashtra and Vidarbha tussle over the (waters of) Godavari. Who knows this ‘Gana’? If you’re still wondering which ‘Gana’ (no, not another song) he was on, think of the national anthem … “Jana, Gana, Mana.” That was Shankar Bhandari. Like him or lampoon him. No Goan freedom fighter dared report him “anti-national.” He could come up with rare ones like “Goenkar: ratche torrad, sokallche honrrad!” Or his riddle, “Why does Bandodkar always face the river Mandovi?” (When CM, mineowner Bandodkar’s chamber faced the river, after demise, his statue by the old Secretariat also faced the river.) His answer: “To count his barges carrying ore, he doesn’t trust his daughters!” The ‘Trio Kings,’ Conception-Nelson-Anthony, were notorious for stage songs chopping Bandodkar’s policies to pieces. They thwarted his moves to woo the Catholic vote bank. Their songs ruffled the CM’s feathers more than Opposition MLAs ever did. When all his offers to rein in the Trio failed, Bandodkar imposed a Tiatr tax! Tiatrists faced tough days, but none suffered as Kid Boxer did. Sometime in 1958, Siolim-born Kid Boxer (Caetano Manuel Pereira, 1917-1991) sang an “anti-India” song in Bombay. Goan freedom fighters there got him jailed. Kid was then deported to Goa. The Portuguese immediately employed him at the Goa Radio. As an artiste, he worked with the likes of Jacinto Vaz, Allen Costa and Georgina Jacques. According to my Candolim friend in Kuwait, Anthony Veronica Fernandes, a walking encyclopaedia on Konknni songsters, Kid was the highest paid Konknni artiste. The songs he recorded at Goa Radio were runaway hits, like: Divo pettounk guineanacher / Uzvadd ieunk chintnacher / Zo kon zanna konnem ghoram bandleant tim pongeranchea zaddancher. Suskar soddlet maeyani / Dolle bhortat dukhani / Aiz putancheo maeyom duddu na zaun, rodtat zorinnim. The true meaning of his riddlesome lyrics was known only to close friends. Yet, listeners lapped up his songs. The one above was scripted in the wake of a Govt. of India ban on both money transfers and travel by Bombay-Goans to Goa. After liberation, Kid Boxer was arrested again when singing on stage at Mapusa. The song that earned official ire went as follows: Tum bhitor sorlai chukon, mortoloi sukon, dusreacho desh pochona; Tum nestai fokot valo, ani khatai fokot palo, hem matui hanga sobona; Tum panpotti khatai, ani poch'chu korun thuktai, lozui kaim dissona… After things cooled down, Kid returned to Bombay and began stage acting again. During a Tiatr, as he sang one of his by now famous ‘zupattis’ (tongue-lashings), freedom fighter Evagrio George in the audience raised a ruckus over Kid’s “anti-national” song. “Audience was with Kid but the law was not,” says Veronica. Kid was arrested yet again, incarcerated at Nasik jail for six months, where he was physically – and mercilessly – tortured. His spirit didn’t break. In jail, Kid wrote another Tiatr, "Somzonnem Zali Chuk." He sang a hit in it, "Sov mhoine Nasik conventan kaddle, torui converter zaunk na." (Despite six months at the Nasik “convent,” I was not converted.) Kid Boxer was incomparable, especially when delivering melodious ‘zupattis,’ like: “Nesson dusreachem kapodd, hath paiem kamrun bosleat makodd.” Obviously alluding to his conviction that Goa was invaded and illegally occupied by India. Lucky that Kid Boxer was not charged with sedition! (Concludes.) Pics courtesy: Kid Boxer (Fausto da Costa, ‘Tiatr ani Tiatrist’, Vol-I, The Goan Review publication, 1994), TrioKings Conception-Nelson-Anthony (JoeGoaUK, www
[Goanet] song with mog
Thanks Jane, The song/Mando tracks you mentioned below is available in these two 'Goa CLips' which was captured about 14 yrs ago some dulpods also added http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ueI2jSjfBA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuVnVB08_Y [Goanet] song with mog JANE ALPHONSO mogjjandson at btinternet.com Fri Oct 3 14:38:32 PDT 2008 Hi guys hope you'll will like this one SURYA NOKETRANCHE PORIM 1. Surya noketranche porim porzolleta Mogachea mhojea anjea. Tum 'bemfeit' mhunnun mannka. 'Adorar (u) kortam tuka. ch. Io Io, gopantulea anjea Ekuch punn beij(u) dhi re mhaka. 2. Alambrad(u) tuje pole, mogreanche kolle Distal motianch'zodde Jiigjigetai mhoje dolle Kalliz lobdol're tuje kodde. ch Io, io, gopantulea anjea. 3. Tirxe, garxe tuje dolle, bigbigtai polle Bhultai sogle chole Axeun rautam zon'lakodde Dixtti pottol' mhunn bainkodde. ch. Io, io, gopantulea anjea.. mog from jjandson [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Vote for Neha Karmarkar
Dear Goanetters Neha Karmarkar a young girl from Dhavlikar High School Ponda has reached finals of Zee TV realty show sa re ga ma pa Marathi. Please vote for Neha Karmarkar. The voting information is as per below. SMS ZMSGP 3 and send to 57575 Idea Mobile users call on 55454012 BSNL users call on 1250115 You can see her singing in sa re ga ma pa on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKAZC_9nm6c Regards Vinay Kamat appeals to vote for Neha in musical show Panaji (PTI): Goa's Neha Subhash Karmarkar, who rubbed shoulders with Bollywood singer Sadhana Sargam during International Film Festival of India (IFFI) 2007 is making waves in a television music reality show. Karmarkar, a 9th standard student from a local school has reached the finals of Zee Marathi Saregamapa Little Champs. "I am very happy that Goa's talent is hogging limelight in the country. I appeal to all the people to vote for her through SMSs, Goa Chief Minister Digamber Kamat said in a public appeal made on Friday. Encouraging the little champ, who had sung with Sargam during IFFI 2007, Kamat appreciated the way the girl rose to the final platform. "Everybody should support her so that she can emerge victorious bringing pride to Goa," he said. The Chief Minister organised a special press conference here yesterday to appeal to the people through media to vote for Neha, who was present along with her family and school headmistress. Neha said that her father Raghunath Karmarkar was her first tutor who has supported her throughout. "Participating in the reality show was a good experience I learnt a lot there.. with your blessings, I am sure to emerge as winner," the 14-year-old said. Her parents have decided to launch a campaign through their well wishers in the state so that she garners maximum SMSs. http://www.hinduonnet.com/holnus/009200810041121.htm
[Goanet] TimeOut Bengaluru: Borscht on the beach
Borscht on the beach By Vivek Menezes gorges his way through the state's best restaurants Vegan in the land of vindaloo? Do you seek borscht instead of bebinca? Want to eat at the best Burmese restaurant on the planet? You've come to the right place. Goa has it all, with world-class chefs hidden away behind coconut palms, and an amazingly diverse culinary landscape during the tourist season. Let's be clear - the majority of restaurants and shacks in this state are mediocre and overpriced, and it is very easy to lose your way as you wander the thickets of food outlets that line every beach road. But we've checked all those indifferent places out so that you don't have to. Keep your eyes on our top 21 restaurants in Goa and you just can't go wrong. These are establishments with a track record of excellence. They are simply the best Goa has to offer. Avanti Unless you have a seriously skilled Goan grandmother, this is the closest you're going to get to the soul of Goan Catholic home cooking. Michael Fernandes and his wife and mother-in-law run this cheery boite of a restaurant like an extension of their own home, packed daily with regular customers who know they've found a good thing. Take Michael's advice on the day's catch, and try the beef chili fry without fail. Fontainhas, Panjim (0832-243-1788). Mon-Sat 11am-3pm, 7-10pm. Meal for two approx Rs 500. Bean Me Up More a mini-conglomerate than a mere restaurant, this wonderful North Goa institution boasts of rooms for hire, a massage area, an excellent delicatessen, a surprisingly complete boutique, a children's area, and, oh, yes, a huge range of vegetarian dishes featuring world-class home-made tofu, tempeh, seitan and other natural food products. 1639 Deulvaddo, near petrol pump, Anjuna-Vagator (0832-227-3479). Daily 9.30am-10.30pm. Meal for two approx Rs 800. Bomra's Yes, it really is true. This is the best Burmese restaurant in the world. London-trained Bawmra Jap is an inspired dynamo in the kitchen. The flavours of Burma and his Kachin homeland dance at his fingertips. It's stunningly original and delicious food. We think it's worth a trip to Goa just to eat at Bomra's. Souza Vaddo, Candolim (98221-49633). Daily noon-2.30pm, 7-10pm. Meal for two approx Rs 1,200. Café Chocolatti The best lunch place on the North Goa tourist strip. Great grilled sandwiches, bountiful salads and an outstanding selection of fresh-baked biscuits and cakes. Don't miss the hand-made chili chocolate truffles, and much more for sale in the little shop attached. The kids will love this cute garden restaurant. Fort Aguada Road (0832-247-9340). Mon-Sat 9.30am-7pm. Meal for two approx Rs 600. The Copper Bowl We generally don't like the restaurants in the luxury hotels of Goa. But Pousada Tauma is different, a highly distinctive, terracotta-shaded property that's full of charm. The in-house restaurant is amazingly secluded and private. This is a serious contender for best Goan food in the state. Pousada Tauma Porbavaddo, Calangute (0832-227-9061). Daily 7.30am-10.30pm. Meal for two approx Rs 1,500. Ernesto's This is the clubhouse you've been waiting for all your life. High ceilings, comfortable armchairs, great music on the stereo, constant breezes coming from the Municipal Garden that's spread below the double-height windows - all of this adds up to an unbeatable combination. And now you also have the inspired cooking of Chef Vasquito to bring you back to this lovely relic of Old Panjim. Clube Vasco da Gama, Souza Towers, Municipal Garden (98230-15921). Daily11am-3pm, 6.30-11pm. Meal for two approx Rs 400. Fiesta Page 3-types, you've found your mecca. This undeniably stylish restaurant, run by two ex-models, is the in-house clubhouse of the flashbulb-friendly set when they're in Goa. We have always liked Fiesta, and think especially highly of its mouthwatering desserts. But all that bling is getting to us, as is this rapidly deteriorating location that forces you to drive through crowds that resemble Churchgate at rush hour. Saunta Vaddo, Baga (0832-227-9894). Wed-Mon 7pm-midnight. Meal for two approx Rs 2,000. Fisherman's Wharf This is a South Goa rarity - a reliable, international-standard restaurant that's outside the mammoth five-star complexes that have come to dominate this part of the coast. It's a genuinely beautiful spot, right bang on the slow-moving River Sal, and this is a tightly ticking professional set-up that consistently delivers good value for money. Mobor, Cavelossim (93261-29810). Daily 11am-midnight. Meal for two approx Rs 1,200. Home It sits right on Patnem beach, one of the prettiest and most pristine strands of the Goan coastline. The layout couldn't be more picturesque, tables laid out in the sand with the ocean blue as backdrop, with comfortable floor-level seating on one side. But don't be fooled by the idyllic setting. This is a hard-working, professional set-up that specia
[Goanet] DNA - India - 'Highly skilled immigration to Britain will increase' - Daily News & Analysis
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1195611 Anyone for Britain? rubygoes
[Goanet] Bevinda Colaco's interesting take on secularism
How naive of me! I thought Cicil Pinto's views were sarcastic! upkamath92
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Miguel Braganza wrote: Dears, The original thread of this discussion about MODERATION on Goanet is "[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites" The golden rules of Goanet state that no one should change the subject line. Herman is not a REGULAR poster and hence cannot be a "habitual offender" to deserve a "Rejection" notice. He has, however, broken one of the golden rules in changing the above subject line to "[Goanet] Goanet Moderation". 1. Herman has changed the subject line ... 2. Bosco has continued with the new subject line RESPONSE: Arre mhojea ixtta...shanneponn bond kor and borem bashem uloi..boshto fugar zainakai. There is nothing that cannot be discussed in a civil manner. We are on the same team afterall. Neither Herman nor Bosco broke any Goanet Rules. Even you participated in this thread. Now you raise a phony claim. Our responses took off from Mervyn Lobo's message that initiated this thread. The first message can be found here: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-September/081245.html On another note, Goanet Rules do not BAN changing subject lines. On the contrary Goanet Rules have indicated how to change subject lines if the need arise. Please refer to the 'subject line' section in Goanet Rules at: http://goanet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=9 Please curtail this aimless arguing. It is wasting your time, my time and a lot of bandwidth that serves no purpose. Thank you. - Bosco Goanet Admin http://www.goanet.org
[Goanet] Brian Mendonca's blog
Do see 'Last Bus to Vasco', the blog maintained by Brian Mendonca, editor at OUP in Delhi and my former classmate at the GU. He has also come out with a book of verse by the same name: http://www.lastbustovasco.blogspot.com/ Rgds. FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Goa news for October 5, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Player Ratings: Sporting Club De Goa 3-0 Mohammedan Sporting Club - Goal.com [9 hours ago] Sporting Club de Goa put on a classy second display to overcome Mohammedan and go to the top of the I league table. Goal.com rates the performances of both ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=895972&cid=1253918565&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNEJzjVI41ahlC-KK_JTDB3CC556fQ *** Scarlett case: Goa Minister threatens to sue British daily - Hindu [Oct 3, 2008] Panaji (PTI): Goa Home Minister, Ravi Naik on Fridaythreatened to sue a British daily for linking his son's involvement in the murder of two British ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200810032049.htm&cid=1253789836&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNGNC--JC2ObJp4qFXouJ96NWQThsQ *** Goa tourism industry unperturbed by smoking ban - Hindu [16 hours ago] Panaji (PTI): As the Union Health Ministry's ban on smoking in public places evokes mixed reactions from across the country, Goa's multi-million tourism ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200810041243.htm&cid=1254055522&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNEVVUnyxJc3K6qJkJKqRkJQ53er0Q *** Leicester under-14 soccer team to play in Goa - Economic Times [3 hours ago] And global Indians from football crazy UK are set to Bend it like Beckham in Goa. Players from Leicester City Football Club, which tops the Football League ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ET_Cetera/Leicester_soccer_team_to_play_in_Goa/articleshow/3561108.cms&cid=1254141243&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNEXpuaxTVMzs5jZkqSS8aUXEttO7g *** SEZ promoters to meet CM for alternate proposals in Goa: Naik - Press Trust of India [8 hours ago] Panaji, Oct 4 (PTI) Three notified SEZ promoters in Goa may hold talks with the Chief Minister Digamber Kamat to try for alternate proposals in the state, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/E5156F458D106F3A652574D80052ED19?OpenDocument&cid=1254179923&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNEre67EEevRxSwn4ZHr7YWL1PZK6g *** Sesa Goa: Hold - Business Line [5 hours ago] The stock of iron ore producer, Sesa Goa, has witnessed a sharp fall in the recent market meltdown, tracking falling commodity prices. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/iw/2008/10/05/stories/2008100550631100.htm&cid=0&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNHqDofapRlOzx6YvdbzAg0TNTnTAw *** A great creative silence - Times of India [2 hours ago] Chakravarti, who moved to Goa from Delhi in 2004 with his wife and ten-year-old daughter, is one of a number of writers, journalists and artists whove made ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/A_great_creative_silence/articleshow/3561035.cms&cid=0&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNGkVgp16fbb4hOqqCTtz3J5-ThQ6A *** Rajinikanth in Goa - Times of India [17 hours ago] Instead, the superstar will be in Goa, starting the talkie portion of his Shankar magnum opus Enthiran with Aishwarya Rai, and a few of the supporting cast ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Entertainment/India_Buzz/Rajinikanth_in_Goa/articleshow/3556812.cms&cid=0&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNFw95THB4Sc4rYcE2HS6B44SFK3jQ *** Goa airport needs urgent expansion: official - Hindu [17 hours ago] Panaji (PTI): Goa airport is being used beyond its prescribed capacity and there was an urgent need for its expansion, an official has said. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200810041123.htm&cid=1254035935&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNH5w-us80PSz4wy7WITHH5_QUXrzw *** will CBI succeed where Goa police failed - Hindustan Times [11 hours ago] Act two of British teenager Scarlett Keeling's murder trial will unfold at the Goa bench of the Bombay High Court onMonday when the Central Bureau of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=11b4fb16-9142-4500-b78f-885ff1d396e4&SectionName=Cricket&cid=1254125843&ei=evznSN-RMI-qggO7mbmVAQ&usg=AFQjCNFXlBQbr1oX78bfBIvoL_BWzwdidQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goanet Top Posters (2004/July)
GMT 0015 1.8.04 (4 years ago) Number of postings per member (decending order): Cecil Pinto 11 FN 84 Jerry Fernades 11 Gabe Menezes83 Lino Dourado11 Gilbert Lawrence 75Miguel Bragnza 11 @Goanet.org 65 Goa’sPride 10 R barreto60 Jorge/Livia Abr 10 Domnic Fdes 55 Floriano Lobo 9 Sebdc 38 HelgadoRosario 9 Joagoauk 34 Godfrey Gonsalv 8 Eddie Fernandes 29 Marlon Menezes 8 Eugene Correia 28 Mervyn Lobo 8 George pinto27 Radhakrishna Nai 8 Estaquio Santem. 24Vivian D’Souza 8 Cornel 22 Constatino Xav. 7 Eddie 22 Alfrede Tavares 6 Lory D’Souza21 Fausto 6 Rui Colaco 21 Florina D’Souza 6 Santosh Helekar 20 Gilbert Menezes 6 Bosco D’Melo19 Halur Rasho 6 Goa Desc 17 Norman Lobo 6 Sachin Phardte 17 Ricardo Nunes 6 Bernado Colaco 16 Silvano Barbosa 6 Vivek Araujo16 Tim De melo 6 C.Fernandes 15 Vincent Fdes6 Nasci Caldeira 15 A.Veronica 5 Jose lourenco 12 Anisa Fernandes 5 Paulo Colaco12 Joel Disouza5 Venatius Pinto 12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] EE Weekend * Valentine & Anna Coelho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-- Forwarded message -- From: Valentine & Anna Coelho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/10/4 Subject: EE Weekend Dear friends, We have not had an Engaged Encounter weekend for almost 3 years now. Last month we received a call from a couple who seemed interested and kept on calling us to organize a weekend for them. So we have finally decided to organize a weekend from 17 (7pm) to 19 oct (6pm). The venue has not yet been fixed. As soon as we receive more names we will book the place. This weekend is for engaged couples or newly married couples of all faiths. The registration fee is Rs 200 and couples will be given a blank envelope at the for their donation towards the cost of the weekend. No couple is turned off for lack of funds. Please pass on this information to all your relatives and friends and also keep the weekend in prayer. Thank you and may God bless you. -- Valentine (Vally) & Anna Coelho Visit our blog: http://tob-attitudes.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Avocado, how to grow...
Thanks to Ruby Goes for sending this link on how to grow an avocado tree: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/sf/how-to/how-to-grow-an-avocado-tree-053348 Just thought of sharing it with you. As you know, we have a plant at home. Despite the skepticism, the avocado actually fruits in Goa. FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Fwd: Konkan Shakti : Childhood Dream
Dear Cynthia, It was your wonderful piece of write up I came across, and I relived my childhood days, as if, it was just in the past. In the days when the Bombay - Goa road was almost non exixtent, it was the steamer service on < Goa Line >, that catered to the masses from the costal area of Maharashtra, south of and including Ratnagiri. To the north of Ratnagiri, it was mailnly the , with comparitively smaller steamers. Myself being from Devgad in the Ratnagiri district, ( now part of Sindhurgdurg district,) steamers were very convenient, to and from Mumbai. As you described the minutest details of the steamer travel to Panajim, I could not keep quiet, and rushed for some old Photo albums, to make some digital snaps of the < Old Beauty > taken in those good old days using Agfa < Click III >, ultimate gift to a obidient child, by middle class parents. The dates appearing on the snaps are a gentle reminder of the fact that, many monsoons have drenched my beautiful land, from the time the Click III, clicked the originals, and technogy has enabled me to share these memories in digital form with you, via this mail. I trust you may find yourselves sitting on the open deck enjoying the breeze, just above the transom of this childhod love, < Konkan Shakti > Warm regards, Avinash Patankar
[Goanet] Anjuna dreams: Mayabhushan Nagvenkar takes the temperature in his home village.
http://www.timeoutmumbai.net/client_coverstory/client_coverstory_details.asp?code=560 Anjuna dreams Mayabhushan Nagvenkar takes the temperature in his home village. We moved into Anjuna in the late 1970s. We were the first Hindu household in Doxoxxir, a predominantly Catholic ward, until another Hindu family moved in next door sometime later. Mutual suspicion marked the first few years in the neighbourhood, which later gave way to curiosity. Gradually as interaction increased, those around us considered us good enough neighbours.Things were as normal as a quiet neighbourhood would allow, until less than a decade ago there was a renewed wave of collective doubt. A family of foreigners had moved in on rent next door. (The word "foreigner" in Anjuna, automatically implies white) The family comprised a blonde haired toddler named Benjamin and his mum Anna, who hailed from Denmark. Anna ran a stall at the Wednesday flea market in Anjuna for most part of the season, while little Benjamin played in the gravel all day wearing a muslin kurti, ate dal and rice and loved cricket. Some years ago, Benjamin rushed into our yard chasing a cricket ball and bumped into my mother and apologised to her in fluent Konkani, which stumped her. Next, he wanted her to play cricket with him. While the term globalisation is somewhat recent coinage, the spirit of this phenomenon has been in currency in Anjuna for decades now, its roots going back several centuries. Social historian Teresa Albuquerque, who belongs to Anjuna by way of marriage – records in her book Anjuna: Profile of a Village in Goa that maritime history knew the village of Anjuna and its ward Chapora as Hanjamana and Shah pura, circa 1100 AD. "Hanjamana was a prosperous Arab commercial settlement and an important port along the west coast during medieval times," Albuquerque writes. "Hanjaman corresponds to Hanjuman – a merchant guild." In another book A Life Well Spent: A Biography of Pascoal de Mello, Albuquerque notes: "The port of Chapora had for long been a vital maritime hub. It was once a gateway to the holy city of Mecca and many ships were anchored, repaired and even built there. To Chapora came Arab dhows loaded with horses bound for the great market at Pernem, across the creek." For centuries now, Anjuna has served as an interesting port of call for merchants, adventurers, and soldiers among others. While in the early days, it was the loosely strung fleets of Arab dhows, which sailed across the Arabian Sea, the tide continues to bring travellers to this shore. Perhaps, the village remained etched in the consciousness of global travellers, much in the way the memory of a journey made long ago throbs faintly within a wandering bull elephant's head. After the Arab dhows ceased to haul anchor in Anjuna due to numerous geopolitical reasons, the village lived for a while like a bough without a single blossom. It carried on as a sleepy fishing village, until the 1960s saw it bloom once again with the coming of the flower children. Dominic Fernandes, who lives in Gaumvaddy, a ward located near the Anjuna tinto, recalled his first brush with hippies in the late 1960s. "They were walking by me in a group. They wore strange clothes and sported strange hairstyles, which I later learnt, were modelled after the Beatles. They were in love with this place. And we fell in love with them, because of they money they brought along," Fernandes said, not too fondly. But he does have fond memories of the Beatles hairdo, which he too sported after the hippies. Two score years later, Fernandes worries less about hippies. His major concern is a mammoth housing project that's under construction in a plot located right next to the Chapel of St John. A huge structure has cast a dark shadow over the bust of Fr Agnelo, an illustrious nineteenth-century priest who also hailed from Anjuna. Fernandes is not the only one perturbed by an Anjuna that's crowding far more quickly than imagined, with the springing up of one mega housing project after another. There are some like Sarjano, a gnarled, temperamental Italian chef and author. Sarjano lives in Anjuna and has been running an Italian restaurant in Vagator for some years now. But he thinks it's now time to pack his bags forever. Sarjano's on the lookout for an elusive Eden, somewhere on the South African coast, which was "discovered" some years ago by vagabonds of the sun and sea like him, but whose location is a closely guarded secret. "It's getting too crowded here," he said. "More and more people of my generation don't come here anymore. There are other places springing up like Laos or the beaches of Cambodia." Sarjano, who's been coming to Anjuna for the last 30-odd years, does not categorically say it, but drops hints that Anjuna-philes like him are being crowded out. "Indians tourists from Mumbai, Pune and Delhi are slowly replacing us foreigners," he said. "But there are other places which offer cleaner beaches and a
[Goanet] re the Off Topic and never ending state of the U.S. economy and the price of gold from Mario G.
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:11:33 +1000 From: "Ruby Goes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-10-03-voa18.cfm > Mario responds: > Ruby, > Your mentioning me in the title demonstrates that you haven't followed the off topic thread you have alluded to very closely. My role has simply been to correct obvious misrepresentations of fact that were being repeated for no apparent reason, while also providing an opinion about how to analyse the validity of financial advice being gratuitously provided in this internet forum, based on my own professional experience in dealing with financial advisors seeking contracts to invest millions from a pension fund. > Since you seem to have an obvious interest in gold, and in internet web sites, this one may be of interest to you. It demonstrates that gold has been highly volatile and a poor investment vehicle over the long haul, while being a very good investment over short periods, for example from 1976 to 1979 and from 2001 to now. > http://www.finfacts.com/Private/curency/goldmarketprice.htm > Excerpt: > In January 2008, 28 years after the all-time record high of price of $850 in January 1980, the nominal broke the record. In inflation adjusted US dollars, the price would have to reach about $2,200 to break the record in real terms. >
[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 23:28:38 -0400 From: "Goanet News Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > India's outsourcing bubble is bursting By Saritha Rai, silicon.com > Bangalore, India--Once a high-flying tech hub, Bangalore is seeing more sober days in the wake of the credit crisis. > It looks like the global economic turmoil and the dramatic Wall Street meltdown is beginning to hit Bangalore. > Mario responds: > This is the inevitable result of the end of a business cycle in the US, the economic engine of the world economy, the economic turmoil in Europe, and inflation in India. > Before 1992, before outsourcing and globalization caught on, a US business cycle was three to four years. The last two have been seven to eight years. These cycles never last for more than six months, and there is no reason to believe that this one will be any different, since the excesses of the banking industry are already shaking out and the US always addresses its problems rather quickly. > What will be bad news for India will be if Barack Obama is elected this November for several reasons, a) his policy of raising taxes, he says he will cut tax rates for 95% of income earners, but some 40% of income earners pay no income taxes to begin with, b) his policy of using expensive and inefficient government programs as opposed to the private marketplace to solve social and economic problems, c) his policy of trade protectionism to maintain his political support from the American labor unions, which will directly impact outsourcing, and d) the relative lack of checks and balances on his policies because the Congress is likely to be controlled by his own party. >
Re: [Goanet] Christians forced to hide in the woods as new wave of Hindu violence sweeps India
Actually Gabe, the problem with inaction by the Central Govt against the killings of the Christian tribals in Orissa by the Bajrang Dal is not so much an anti-Christian sentiment at Delhi but the general lack of value for human lives in India for the most part. This is obvious to anyone who has lived in India from the 70s onwards and then moved to the west where a human life has a value like no other. I don't know whether this lack of value for human life in India is the result of her huge population numbers or just the poverty and hopelessness of the majority of the people who have not participated in it's economic resurgence. As the most common example, see the way a dead body is treated in a public mishap. JoeGoaUK has shown us pictures of drowning cases on Goan shores where bodies recovered on the beach were treated in the most ignominous manner. Look at the way bomb blast victims in Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Delhi and several other places were taken away. I look at scenes like that and I am embarrased to realize that I come from the same country that is being depicted in those photographs. Although secularism in India has been taking a severe beating in recent years, I have faith that it will survive. The waffling at the Centre about action to be taken against the Orissa state govt is due to one individual alone - Shivraj Patil the Home Minister. He has been severely criticized by his cabinet colleagues but he continues to waffle. He knows that he will soon be dropped as Home Minister so he just doesn't care. He is living out his last days as a Minister. This sympathy in Delhi, is little consolation to those being killed in Orissa. But as I said, what's a few hundred more lives expended before some action can finally be taken. Regards, Roland. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1067789/Christians-forced-hide-woods-new-wave-Hindu-violence-sweeps-India.html#
[Goanet] Only woman left on Goanet?
Dear Joe, Of the 33 names you posted , please check how many of the ones that I have retained below are actually Women or Woe-man or We-men. And if the "Sebastian" you call a woman happens to be the geology Prof., you are headed for trouble in Devanagri! ;-( You may even get stoned ... with geology. Check out "Jeevan" before you get a Mrutyu-dandd , death sentence. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:10:58 + (GMT) From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Only woman left on Goanet? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Only one woman left on Goanet? I don't think so. After doing a quick scan on last months posts, I have found over 33 women. Perhaps, 'the only woman left of goanet' was meant to say the only woman on Goanet to figure in 'top 10 posters' :-) Following women posted at least one msg during the month of Sept.2008 Jeevan Ken & Alice Kiran Merwyn & Elsie Patice Sebastian Valley Vandana & Arun [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Goa, Dial? 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [Goanet] Lornas New Album - Dennem
Apologies Eddie. I realized the fallacy of my post moments after I wrote it. By then it was too late to retrieve. I agree that selling anything to the average Goan even at cost, is a challenge that will drain the most fortituous individual. While there are sensible elements of the community who are grateful to be provided a service like the one you undertook, they are few and far between. Cecil probably knows this. He once complained about some Goans who were asking Domnic (yes, that's the spelling) to write his reminiscences in the form of a book, but didn't buy a copy once Domnic's Goa was published. However Cecil markets to the general disapora, so he would be best placed to do it (with profit). Roland. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Roland, > > With respect, fine sentiments but have you tried marketing any of these > products to the Community yourself? I have twice attempted to act as UK > agent for books, selling them at cost + postage (nothing charged for packing > or handling) and it was disastrous. I could write a book about my > experiences! > > Goan Associations have a primary responsibility to their members and do not > have the resources to take on a wider role.
Re: [Goanet] Lornas New Album - Dennem
Hello Eddie, You can buy Goan music online at www.angelav.com we ship worldwide.We have been online for over 15 years now (perhaps India's 1st e-commerce site thanks to Marlon, even before fabmart etc.) Orlando With respect, fine sentiments but have you tried marketing any of these products to the Community yourself? I have twice attempted to act as UK agent for books, selling them at cost + postage (nothing charged for packing or handling) and it was disastrous. I could write a book about my experiences! Goan Associations have a primary responsibility to their members and do not have the resources to take on a wider role. A simpler solution would be for an entrepreneur (are you listening, Cecil?) in Goa to sell such products via ebay with the option of accepting payment via PayPal.
Re: [Goanet] Lornas New Album - Dennem
From: Roland Francis >There are Goan Associations throughout the world who >should be rendering such service to Goan artistes. Singers, >songwriters, authors, painters and so many others. After all, >are such associations meant only to promote grand dances ? Dear Roland, With respect, fine sentiments but have you tried marketing any of these products to the Community yourself? I have twice attempted to act as UK agent for books, selling them at cost + postage (nothing charged for packing or handling) and it was disastrous. I could write a book about my experiences! Goan Associations have a primary responsibility to their members and do not have the resources to take on a wider role. A simpler solution would be for an entrepreneur (are you listening, Cecil?) in Goa to sell such products via ebay with the option of accepting payment via PayPal. There are British expats who have set up businesses in Goa marketing local clothes, costume jewellery, handicrafts etc. As orders are received they buy the items and dispatch them overseas by post. Regards, Eddie Fernandes London, UK
[Goanet] re the Off Topic and never ending state of the U.S. economy and the price of gold from Mario G.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-10-03-voa18.cfm Dear Mario and Mervyn, Here's a well written account about gold. (I LOVE THE GOLD BASEMENT ON FLICKR.) Have a good weekend. rubygoes
[Goanet] This one is a young tiatrist died last month
This one is a young tiatrist died last month http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2911195717/sizes/s/ The cause of death not known (as I only saw this ad in H 2 days ago). RIP [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation
If the following fact is true - "regarding hundreds of unexplained post rejects" on Goanet, I would suggest the moderators should find more dramatic / drastic means to deal with the authors of these innumerable inappropriate posts. This would be better than the moderators wasting their valuable time rejecting posts with or without an explanation. If there are "hundreds of unexplained post rejects", likely the moderators have automated their response with a press of a button. And who can blame them for that? Of course, the "hundreds of unexplained post rejects", may be just another exaggeration that we often see on Goanet, when fiction replaces fact. To Bosco, given your post below, our sympathies are with you and other moderators. You have shown the ability to remain polite in the most hostile exchanges. I want the moderators to remember for every poster who resents your characterization of their post as "inappropriate", there are many posters who thank you from saving them from self-embarrassment. And there are a whole group of Goanetters who thank you for sparing us from these "inappropriate posts". The fact that Goanet has survived successfully for so long, is in itself a credit to the moderators. Many Goan chat sites have seen their demise or are on a respirator with no activity. To be helpful, here are a selection of explanations that the moderators can automatically added to the "inappropriate post" "confusing" "substituting chutzpah with learning" "You have not read or understood the post you are responding to" "more Xapottam than knowledge" "same old ... same old" "More wind than substance" "The brow-beating in your post is a poor substitute for reasoning" And there is the whole selection of "choice phraseology" that our English professor from Goa, Augusto Pinto, has kindly provided, starting with obnubliating.:=)) Regards, GL --- CORNEL DACOSTA I was not attacking the person but the systemic mess that Goanet is in regarding hundreds of unexplained post rejects. - Bosco - Goanet Volunteer To paraphrase an infamous clich, Hell hath no fury like a Goan whose message was rejected for posting on Goanet. There has been much bafflegab on this issue over the past few days by a couple 'experts' in this field. The exceptions are FEW (emphasis). These are habitual violators of Goanet Rules.
[Goanet] Young Darren (20) dies in Canada
Young Darren (20) dies in Canada in a road accident. Migrated to Canada only 5 years ago, was popular figure in the Goan Community there. Darren http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2912023790/sizes/l/ The family owns ‘sunshine beach resort’, Calangute-goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Morris Minor
Reading Francis Rodrigues posting about the Morris Minor, reminds me of ours. My father bought it in Ajmer way back in 1951. He was then posted in a small cantonment called Nasirabad which was the regimental centre of the Grenadiers. It travelled all over with us. From Nasirabad to Delhi to Simla to Poona, to Ambala to Jammu, back to Nasirabad to Bangalore and finally in 1969 when my father retired to Moira. Both my parents drove the car. My father taught my brother Tony to drive using the Morris. After he died in 1989 we sold the car. I think all of us wept to see our beloved Morris leave our house in Moira. Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami -- next part -- - -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1706 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 6:17 PM
[Goanet] Major Days of the Morris Minor
Francis Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Major Days of the Morris Minor by Tony Fernandes Hello, I can remember that I went through a similar experience in the sixties. I had to cycle from Moira to Nachinola to fetch Dr. Silveiro Souza[1] to attend to the patient. Oft times, this was in the dead of night and as my cycle did not have a dynamo, I had to carry a torch in one hand. These errands continued for a long time through the time that I acquired a scooter and later on a car. People still do ask for help though now, since many people in the vaddo own cars and scooters. [1] Dr. Silveiro Souza represented Aldona Constituency in the Goa Legislative Assembly as a United Goans MLA -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 --- Achievement is largely the product of steadily raising one's levels of aspiration and expectation. - Jack Nicklaus
[Goanet] Christians forced to hide in the woods as new wave of Hindu violence sweeps India
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1067789/Christians-forced-hide-woods-new-wave-Hindu-violence-sweeps-India.html# Christians forced to hide in the woods as new wave of Hindu violence sweeps India By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 3:12 PM on 03rd October 2008 * Comments (0) * Add to My Stories >From the rape of a nun to arson and killings, Christian leaders in India accuse Hindu nationalist groups of deliberately targeting Christians in eastern India to support their political agenda and shore up their support base. The accusations come as authorities in Orissa state say they have arrested four people and ordered a probe into reports of the gang rape of a nun in August, and suspended the officer who was in charge of the investigation for dereliction of duty. A string of attacks on Christians in three states has killed at least 34 people and forced thousands to flee to government camps or hide in forests. cvbcvbc Anger: Christians attend a protest against the recent killings and atrocities on Christians in Orissa and Karnataka, in New Delhi The troubles have been sparked by controversial conversion campaigns by Christian groups in poor tribal areas. "(There is) a hidden agenda to (make) the entirety of Orissa into a Hindu state", said Archbishop Raphael Cheenath of Cuttack-Bhubaneswar in Orissa, where most of the violence has been concentrated. Cheenath compared the violence to the slaughter of over 2,000 Muslims in the state of Gujarat in 2002. He said that hardliners were "following the Modi style", referring to the state's Chief Minister Narendra Modi from the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), who has been accused of giving Hindu mobs a free run to carry out the carnage. Orissa police say they have arrested more than 300 people over the clashes, including local leaders of the BJP, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). cvbcvb Clashes: The government deployed hundreds more federal police to eastern India on Friday after one person was killed and several injured in fresh clashes between Hindus and Christians Hindu nationalist groups have denied their involvement. While over 4,000 federal police have been deployed in Orissa, Christian leaders and human rights groups say the violence has not been brought under control, and called on the state government, run by Hindu nationalists, to do more. "The state government has not rooted out the violence - that is quite disconcerting," a spokesman for Amnesty International said. "The people in the relief camps who wanted to return have been told they have to re-convert to Hinduism. "That should be taken very seriously by the state government." Cheenath said Hindu activists are trying to scare Christians into leaving the camps by throwing bombs nearby, aiming to forcibly reconvert them to Hinduism once they are outside. The All India Christian Council has listed assaults against Christians it says were carried out since August, including murder, rape, and attacks on churches and schools. fghfgh Peace plea: More than 700 federal police are being sent to Orissa state after the death in rural Kandhamal district following clashes between Christians and Hindus on Thursday The Hindu, a respected national newspaper, this week carried reports a nun was stripped naked and gang-raped. It said a priest who tried to stop the attack was beaten and doused in kerosene in full view of the police. According to Orissa authorities, a medical report has confirmed a rape took place. "We were not impressed by the reaction of the state government", said A.M. Chinnappa, Archbishop of Madras-Mylapore. Pope Benedict has condemned the attacks and Roman Catholic bishops have urged the European Union to treat persecution of Christians as a humanitarian emergency. Hindus have opposed missionaries' conversions of lower-caste Hindus, which they said were sometimes carried out by force. A BJP spokesman in Orissa blamed clashes on the murder of a prominent Hindu missionary belonging to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and a vocal opponent of Christian proselytising. "Police failure to arrest the criminals who killed Swamiji and others has angered the local people," the spokesman said." Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has called the violence a "national shame", and on Friday the Home Minister Shivraj Patil called on the Orissa Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik to do more to control the violence. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Ban on Smoking in Public Places
Any civilised Goan will be frustrated to see the horrible and unhygienic sight of stinking spit red marks on walls, corners and footpaths of our cities made by Gootka, tobbaco and Paan eating ghantis, migrants and the domestic tourists as well. Another sight you will see everyday of urination and defecating at public places like river banks, seaside and rail tracks by the hoards of ghantis. Urination at the roadside presents such an ugly picture that if one is accompanied by family members, especially women, it becomes embarrassing and sometimes difficult to make the young ones understand why the uncle is 'wetting' the wall. The government has provided land to Sulabh Sauchalaya in almost every city which undertook this social mission for providing hygienic toilet facilities to the people who visit cities from outside, and also for those who flock commercial places day in and day out. One can find 'Sulabh toilets and bathrooms' everywhere and the organisation has been giving the facility to urinate free of cost while the charges for using toilets etc are easily affordable. Even then these people pay no heed to the calls of environment and show no sense in contributing to make our social surroundings clean and fresh. In some cases some Goans too does not differ much from these uncivilized ghantis as far as smoking and spitting at public places are concerned. I have seen many times even well to do people do not hesitate in urinating around the public places. I feel there should be still punishment like heavy fine and jail sentence for repeating this offence. Then only we can keep our state clean and beautiful . Regards Vinay Original Message Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:54:40 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ban on Smoking in Public Places Dear Goanet Readers What about ban on Spitting, Urinating and Defecating in Public? More than Smoking, these are the biggest public health hazards in India. Cheers Anesimo
[Goanet] BBC E-mail: Four arrested over India nun rape
rubygoes saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** Four arrested over India nun rape ** Police in the Indian state of Orissa arrest four people in connection with the rape of a Catholic nun. < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7649984.stm > ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail < http://www.bbc.co.uk/email > ** Disclaimer ** The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name of the sender have been verified. If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm
[Goanet] Goa tourism industry unperturbed by smoking ban
Goa tourism industry unperturbed by smoking ban Panaji (PTI): As the Union Health Ministry's ban on smoking in public places evokes mixed reactions from across the country, Goa's multi-million tourism industry sees no reason to worry about the move. "The ban will not affect tourism as people are already aware of it," Travel and Tourism Association of Goa president Ralf D'Souza told PTI. When the Centre was considering the ban, the tourism industry here had kept its fingers crossed with apprehensions it could deter tourists who arrive in the state for leisure. D'Souza, who heads the body of tour operators bringing in international clients, however, is not perturbed over the ban which has come into effect from October 2. He said since Goa already had its own anti-smoking legislation in place, the implementation of the Central act should not be a hassle. "If you go as per the Central Government Act, you are allowed to smoke in the open." The exclusion of places like parks and beaches in the Act is a major relief for the tourism industry, the lifeline of Goa's economy. Almost 90 per cent of visitors to Goa visit beaches. The anti-smoking Act, whose implementation will be monitored by a special task force headed by a bureaucrat, is likely to receive flak from two major quarters - beach shacks and casinos, which come under the ban. Beach shack owners have already expressed disappointment over the law which, according to them, would 'shoo away' customers for whom a drink and a smoke generally go together. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200810041243.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Goa airport needs urgent expansion: official
Goa airport needs urgent expansion: official Panaji (PTI): Goa airport is being used beyond its prescribed capacity and there was an urgent need for its expansion, an official has said. The airport, located in the port town of Vasco, is managed by Indian Navy which has its airbase there from where it holds regular trainings. Existing facilities at the airport have reached their saturation point. The terminal building, which can accommodate 700 passengers at a time, is now serving 1,500 to 2,000 travellers, Airport Director Paul Manickam said. In a presentation during a discussion organised by Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industries (GCCI) here yesterday, he said in the absence of another airport, the existing one needs expansion to accommodate the growing number of air passengers visiting the tourist state. "All the six parking bays are full most of the time," the Airports Authority of India (AAI) official said. The Centre has sanctioned Rs 500-crore expansion plan for the airport but it was not taking off because of non- availability of land which is in Navy's possession. During 2007-08, 25.80 lakh passengers used the airport arriving in 23,742 flights. In addition, 763 international chartered flights brought in around two lakh tourists, he said, adding a new terminal building is urgently required. The airport was handed over to the Navy after Goa was liberated from the Portuguese rule. Later, civilian flights were allowed from the airport, whose infrastructure is now under strain due to manifold rise in number of tourists arriving every year in the the coastal state. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200810041123.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Conflict in Cyberspace: How to Resolve Conflict Online
Conflict in Cyberspace: How to Resolve Conflict Online Kali Munro, M.Ed., Psychotherapist Have you ever noticed how conflict can get blown out of proportion online? What may begin as a small difference of opinion, or misunderstanding, becomes a major issue very quickly. Conflict can be difficult at the best of times, but what is it about online communication that seems to ignite "flaming" and make conflicts more difficult to resolve? There are a number of reasons to explain why conflict may be heightened online. One is the absence of visual and auditory cues. When we talk to someone in person, we see their facial expressions, their body language, and hear their tone of voice. Someone can say the exact same thing in a number of different ways, and that usually effects how we respond. For example, someone could shout and shake their finger at you, or they could speak gently and with kindness. They could stand up and tower over you, or they could sit down beside you. How you feel, interpret, and respond to someone's message often depends on how they speak to you, even when it's a difficult message to hear. In online communications, we have no visual or auditory cues to help us to decipher the intent, meaning, and tone of the messenger. All we have are the words on a computer screen, and how we hear those words in our head. While people who know each other have a better chance at accurately understanding each others' meaning and intentions, even they can have arguments online that they would not have in-person. Projections and Transference While many people are convinced that how they read an email is the only way it can be read, the truth is, how we read a text, or view a work of art, often says more about ourselves than it does about the message or the messenger. All of our communications, online and in real-time, are filled with projections. We perceive the world through our expectations, needs, desires, fantasies, and feelings, and we project those onto other people. For example, if we expect people to be critical of us, we perceive other people's communication as being critical - it sounds critical to us even though it may not be. We do the same thing online; in fact we are more likely to project when we are online precisely because we don't have the visual or auditory cues to guide us in our interpretations. How we "hear" an email or post is how we hear it in our own heads, which may or may not reflect the tone or attitude of the sender. We usually can't know from an email or post alone whether someone is shouting, using a criticizing tone, or speaking kindly. Unless the tone is clearly and carefully communicated by the messenger, and/or we are very skilled at understanding text and human communication, we most likely hear the voice we hear, or create in our head and react to that. This is one of the reasons why controversial or potentially conflictual issues are best dealt with by using great care and explicit expressions of our tone, meaning, and intent. Where do projections come from? They come from our life experiences - how we've been treated, how important figures in our lives have behaved, how we felt growing up, how we responded and coped, etc. All of us project or transfer our feelings and views of important figures in our lives onto other people. To take a look at your own projections or transference with people online, think back to the last time you felt angry at someone online. What was it about them or their email that made you so angry? What did you believe that they were doing to you or someone else? How did you react internally and externally? Was your reaction to this person (whether spoken or not) influenced by someone or something from your past? While it certainly happens that people are treated with disrespect and anger online, if there are any parallels between this experience and any of your past experiences, it's likely that how you felt and responded was coloured by your past. When our past is involved, particularly when we are unaware of it happening, we invariably project and transfer old feelings onto the present situation. More at: http://www.kalimunro.com/article_conflict_online.html ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Major Days of the Morris Minor
Major Days of the Morris Minor by Tony Fernandes As I grew up in Goa during the 1950’s and 1960’s it was quite common to see American and European cars on the roads then. Although no one in my family owned a car, I was very happy to receive a new adult-size bicycle (I think it was as though even the bicycle was bought keeping the usual 'vaddtea angar' benefits in mind for a fast growing teenager) and an occasional ride in a Morris Minor that belonged to our family physician. The Morris was quite a popular car among other 'foreign' cars those days. They were seen in many colours: black, dark blue, grey or white, and were mainly owned by landlords, doctors, lawyers, merchants and priests. As a young lad I ran errands for many households in the village other than my own. One of these errands, on many occasions, was to get a doctor to the village in an emergency. Sometimes I would be summoned by a neighbour for a short brief: name of the town, name of the doctor and directions, not forgetting to let the doctor know that’s it is urgent and that he has to come as soon as he possibly can. One of these doctors who often visited our village had a clinic in the town of Mapusa, Bardez - a district in North Goa.And, of course, he happened to own one of these fine cars of yesteryear – the ‘Mighty’ Morris Minor. Having made it to the doctor’s clinic on my bicycle, I would first make sure I locked my bike. Then briefly speaking to the nurse with a request for the doctor’s visit, I would wait outside for the doctor to conclude examinations of his remaining patients in the clinic, if there were any. Leaving my cycle there, I would ride along with the doctor giving him the directions to the patient’s house in the village. It was customary those days, for the errand runner to carry the doctor’s medical kit bag from the car to the house. As for me, it was a great experience doing that. For a brief 3 minutes’ walk to the house, from the winding road that ran through the village, I felt as if I was actually the doctor. I momentarily also got carried away in my thoughts: “Some day I will be a doctor” and 'someone else will have to carry this bag” I thought. After examining ‘The Goan Patient’ this is what the doctor would usually say to the folks of the household, having been convinced he had diagnosed the illness: “Binaka re. Tum zatlo boro. Rexeth boroun ditam. Hem vokot, hea burgeak Mapusa thaun porot hetanam, adduni. Ani koxem dista tem porot maka faleam gomon dilea puro." What the doctor said: ‘Don’t worry. You will get alright. I’m writing a prescription. Tell this lad to buy this medicine on his way back from Mapusa. And tomorrow let me know how you feel.’ After putting the sphygmomanometer and stethoscope back into the bag, the doctor washed his hands with new soap on the window sill while I poured water on his hands, and he wiped his hands on the clean towel. Suddenly my thoughts wandered off, thinking as if I was in the village chapel doing the duties of an altar boy. As a courtesy he then asked about the general health of the rest of the family members. Soon after that, it was time for me to pick upthe doctor’s bag and accompany him to the Morris car when he was kind in inquiring as to how I was doing in school. After getting back on my bicycle from the doctor’s clinic, I would quickly ride to the pharmacy where I had to wait till the pharmacist made the concoction ready, and pasted the paper cut-out notches, that indicated the doses, on the bottle. With the added benefit of riding in the doctor’s Morris Minor, it was also an enjoyable and major errand for me. My reward depended on the affordability of the family of the patient. Sometimes it was a ‘falooda’, sometimes tea and patties or at times just a limboo-soda, in the interim period while the medicines got ready. Tony Fernandes Mississauga, Ontario, Canada _,_._,_ http://tonferns.blogspot.com/ _
[Goanet] Daily Grook #237
DAILY GROOK #237 ___ WIGGLE JIGGLE ___ by Francis Rodrigues she wiggled her two we were in torment, she evidently knew what harassment! _ puns & word-play of all kinds, if you read between the lines! _ http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php _