[Goanet-News] PHOTOS: Goanetters/GoaSudharop.org 2009 meet

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha

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From my Olym5Bpus e510: Photos of the Goanetters/GoaSudharop.org 2009 meet


 Writer and early Goanetter (now based here!) VM in Goa;
 Sethu's Dr Nandita de Souza; ex-Sesa's chartered accountant
 Dinesh Dias; agri expert Miguel Braganza; humour writer
 Cecil Pinto; early Goanetter (formerly with the World Bank
 and the Goa Computers in Schools Project) Emmanuel da Silva;
 architect and campaigner Dean D'Cruz; Peaceful Society's
 Soter D'Souza; Goa books and more Goa books; Ibonio who
 steers GoaSudharop.org in Goa; ex-editor (Indian Express,
 Reader's Digest India) Rahul Singh, son of the 94-year-old
 ex-editor Khushwant Singh; Percival Noronha, ex-Goa senior
 bureaucrat who has help build and sustain the friends of
 astronomy, Goa; very early Goa-based Goanetter TCA Tony
 Correa Afonso; Canada-returned Manuel Caldeira of
 Chandor/Moira; retired principal Tony De Sa of Moira,
 currently working on a book on Goans in Africa; cartoonist
 Alexyz Fernandes; history writer Fr Nascimento of Santo
 Estevam; writer Valerie (left), friend, and Melinda
 Powel-Coutinho; Fr Frederick of Pilar; artist Sylvia
 Braganza; Cmdr John Eric Gomes; friends from Sweden;
 participants from Sangath; architect Dean D'Cruz; guess
 who!; Goanetters from Germany; architect and campaigner
 Pravin Sabnis; Ana Maria Goswami; Junior George Pinto with
 books; architect and seranader of MargaoJose Carlos da Viega
 Gracias; Fatima Pais from Delhi; Edgar from Photo.Montreal
 and Francis Rodrigues from Toronto...

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[Goanet-News] Goa news for January 8, 2009

2009-01-07 Thread Goanet News Service

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*** I can have as many women as I want: Goa minister - Sify
[Jan 6, 2009]  Panaji: Rejecting his estranged wife's
allegation of bigamy, Goa Tourism Minister Francisco alias
Mickky Pacheco on Tuesday said he could have as many women ...
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*** German girl rape: Charges against Goa minister may be
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[18 hours ago]  PANAJI: The Goa police are likely to drop the
charge against state education minister Atanasio Monserrate of
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*** Goa delegation to meet PM on Mhadei issue today - Times of
India
[Jan 6, 2009]  He also said that nothing anything specific to
Goa was discussed at the meeting. It was a general meeting,
Kamat said.
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*** 3 SEZs in Goa can be denotified on developers\' consent:
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[9 hours ago]  NEW DELHI: The Centre has reiterated that the
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*** Goa team asks PM for tribunal on Mhadei - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  Water Resources minister Felipe Neri Rodrigues
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and had promised to take up Goa's case with ...
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*** Goa unaffected by transporters\' strike - Times of India
[Jan 6, 2009]  PONDA: The nationwide indefinite transport
strike, which began on Monday, has not yet affected the supply
of essential commodities to the state as the Ponda ...
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*** 4-feet sea level rise by 2100 could threaten Goa - Herald
Publications
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*** Goa Board charts exam schedule - Times of India
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exams for the year 2008-09, said chairman ...
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*** Britons seek help from commission - Times of India
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*** Damu Naik lashes out at S Goa collector for being
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[1 hour ago]  MARGAO: Fatorda MLA Damodar Naik on Wednesday
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[Goanet] Talking photo Goa Sudharop Awards 6/1/09

2009-01-07 Thread Melinda Powell

Hi JoeGoa U.K.,

I did try to look out for you at the Goa Sudharop Awards,but like the 
Scarlet Pimpernel you eluded me.
I just want to tell you that you are doing a wonderful job with your photos 
and videos and keeping the essence of Goa alive.



Thanks Frederick for the Utube videos of the Goa Sudharop function ,you do 
an excellent job of connecting people and disseminating information.


Melinda Coutinho Powell 



[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Cecil Pinto
Hartman de Souza wrote:
However when Sandeep Heble casts aspersions against my old friend, comrade
and colleague at Patriot newspaper, New Delhi, I am afraid I must ignore my
distaste for fundamentalists and jump into the fray.
...
...
...

One could go on and on with unmasking Heble's obvious Jan Sanghi/RSS roots,
but this is, frankly, of no use.

--


Dear Hartman,

I have not been following the 'John Dayal' debate so I will not
comment on that, but I usually read Sandeep Heble's posts because I
find them rational and well thought out. Sandeep has always struck me
as an intelligent, well-informed, articulate, concerned and
responsible person. And of course totally secular in his approach -
never fundamentalist.

Your allegation that Heble has 'Jan Singhi/RSS roots' is most
intriguing. If you have proof of this allegation please place it on
the table. Else I think you owe us an explanation and Sandeep an
apology.

Cheers!

Cecil

==


[Goanet] OBITUARY - Francisco Zacarias D'Souza (ex-KAC Kuwait/Candolim-Goa)

2009-01-07 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
OBITUARY
  Francisco Zacarias D'Souza  
(ex-KAC, Kuwait/Candolim-Goa) 

 
Expired on 5th January 2009 in Candolim, Goa.
 
Funeral Cortage will leave his residence at JJ Guest House, Bammon Vaddo, 
Candolim on 10th January 2009 at 9:00 a.m. to the Church of Our Lady of Good 
Hope, Candolim for the Eucharistic Celebration and Burial.
 
He will be sadly missed by his wife Edwige D'Souza 
and Children Jessica and Jeffrey, 
relatives and friends.
  
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord. 
And let Perpetual Light shine upon him. 
May his soul rest in Peace.  

 
Source: Herald (Goa)  Arab Times (Kuwait) 
 


 



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[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron --- Santosh's questions

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:57:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com

You know that there was massive communal violence in Gujarat orchastrated
by Modi and Modi is the CM of Gujarat today.

So, what should the victims do?
The victims havent got justice in India. What the victims, if they survived at 
all, should do is an open question.

A few days back an engineer not willing to pay up was brutally murdered
in UP by an MLA and his henchmen. The MLA was allegedly collecting money
for Mayawati the UP CM's birthday bash. 

Mayawati is so big even Sonia won't touch her.

So, what should the victim's relatives (the victim is dead) do ?

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:35:17 -0500
From: Tim de Mello timdemel...@hotmail.com

The PBS/BBC Channel aired the first two episodes last night. Fantastic!

Visit the very comprehensive website: http://www.pbs.org/thestoryofindia

It is well worth a visit.  ENJOY  Be proud!

Mario asks:

Here we see two opposite ends of the Indian spectrum.

On the one hand, according to Samir and Marshall before him, India is a 
functioning anarchy where might is right and no one's rights are safe - 
obviously nothing to be proud of after 61 years of independance, not to mention 
high-minded moralizing aimed at the rest of the world.  

Ironically, the colonial countries that exploited India for centuries are safe 
and functioning democracies by comparison.

On the other hand, PBS/BBC portray India as a country that would make any 
Indian proud.

I am looking forward to an essay by one of our Goanet philosophers to explain 
this dichotomy.  Selma?  Sandeep?  What say you?







[Goanet] Woman.....Beach.......but a Goan woman on a Goan Beach???

2009-01-07 Thread Bosco D'Mello
SpiceJet was showcasing Goan Beaches in the December 2008 edition of their 
inflight 
magazine SpiceRoute. Follow the link for the cover image of the magazine:

http://www.ink-live.com/spiceroute/2008/dec/

Double-click the image for larger image.

If you wish to provide feedback to the editors of this magazine, email:

Vanessa Mulquiney
spiceroute...@ink-publishing.com




[Goanet] To all non-flickrs *UAE etc

2009-01-07 Thread JoeGoaUk
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Re: [Goanet] Journalism and two independent sources for any factual information Was: Re: Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
Frederick --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:
 
 Santosh's contention that he got this two independent sources logic
 from sources too many to remember in the American news media isn't
 very convincing to me.
 

Frederick,

It looks like you do not want to take me at my word, just like I don't want to 
take a Christian or a Hindu campaigner at his/her word when he/she provides 
toll numbers pertaining to Hindu-Christian riots.


Are you suggesting that Dayal's facts are untrue, or attempting to discredit 
Dayal and use the quote to shift attention from the point that my article 
seeks to make? 


As a critical reader I don't know whether to believe those numbers or not in 
the absence of confirmation from a neutral source. 

However, I would love to know whether you would believe these numbers if they 
were produced by a Hindu campaigner. If so, can you please tell me the name of 
one such campaigner as an example?


What I would like to know is I would be interested in knowing if you have any 
other set of figures for the fallout from the recent communal violence in 
Orissa, Karnataka and some other pockets.
 

I am trying to find out what neutral sources have reported on this issue. I 
will let you know as soon as I have that information.


 From the African and Philippines sites you quote, I am
 still to understand where you got the idea that my writing is a
 transgression of an ethical obligation to make sure that they have
 two independent sources before they report something as fact.
 

From the African source here is the relevant quote:

Amid diversity, journalist organisations around the world have sought to 
codify professional ethics. Nearly every code of ethics agrees on at least 
three fundamental factors in the practice of journalism: impartiality, accuracy 
and fairness..
Accuracy: Every journalists code stresses the need for accuracy
Many journalistic organisations insist on the two source rule that means that 
every fact must be confirmed by two independent sources before it can be taken 
as reliable.
http://www.rap21.org/article18465.html

From the Phillipines source here is the relevant quote:

Recognizing the fallibility, if not the occasional deceit of sources, 
individual reporters and various news organizations develop standards for 
testing the truthfulness of a story. Are two or more independent sources 
providing the same information?
http://www.concernedjournalists.org/media-and-conflict-philippines#reporting

 
 I would like to ask Santosh (a) whether he recognises a
 difference between news-reports, feature article (such as a cover
 story for a monthly magazine) or news features, and other genres of
 journalism and
 (b) whether he accepts that there can be some difference
 between a fact not otherwise attributed to a single speaker and
 a statement clearly attributed to an identified person?
 

I believe that if you want a critical reader to trust some information reported 
in a news report, feature article, news feature or other genre of journalism, 
as factually accurate, it is your obligation to see to it that it is confirmed 
by at least two independent sources, preferably neutral ones.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] Unqualified apology...

2009-01-07 Thread Hartman de Souza
This comes after an email from Cecil Pinto, and indeed, some thinking after
reading Fred's first post. Also a phone call I got this morning saying I had
been less than circumspect in my reference to Sandeep Heble being both a
'bigot' and having 'Jan Sanghi/RSS roots'. In fairness I have checked
Sandeep's earlier posts and would like to offer him my unconditional
apology.

I would like him to consider that I may have been somewhat over inflamed by
that reference to John, and in the process, before checking the context of
the earlier postings, mistakenly assuming he came from the far right.

The error has been corrected in my head.

Hartman de Souza


[Goanet] Dossier Gives Details of Mumbai Attacks - NYTimes.com

2009-01-07 Thread Ruby Goes

Rather sickening.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/asia/07india.html?ref=asia

rubygoes



Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron ..in good company

2009-01-07 Thread Carvalho



--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 
 I am looking forward to an essay by one of our Goanet
 philosophers to explain this dichotomy.  Selma?  Sandeep? 
 What say you?
---
Dear Mario,

Owing to some other commitments at this time, I generally don't read Goanet 
these days until the end of the week when I put together the highlights. 

Now and then though I do open up a mail from some of the better writers on 
Goanet and opening up yours today I chanced upon this little reference to me. 
Whether it was tongue-in-cheek or not, I'm delighted to be in Sandeep's 
respectful company. Among Sandeep's many qualities which I admire is his habit 
of not bad-mouthing someone behind their backs on other forums. If he has 
something to say, I believe he does it to their face.

Anyway, I digress singing Sandeep's praises and I forget what your initial call 
for comment was on. Ah yes, India. I believe when I first joined Goanet, we had 
a lovely discussion on that most maligned of economist Malthus. In my book, 
India exemplifies all the horrors wrought onto society because of uncontrolled 
population and it is bound to get worse. No amount of wealth creation will 
penetrate 1.2 billion people in our life-time at least. This country is going 
to chug-along in chaos and anarchy for the next 100 years. Perhaps it is an 
overly pessimistic view to take of India. Perhaps it's an excessively deary, 
bitter winter day in London. But because we are so tight on resources, compound 
that with corrupted distribution of resource and a lack of will-power to 
correct these glitches of corruption and pollution, I don't see it any other 
way.

Having said that, I must say that India is home to some of the most benevolent 
and intelligent people in the world. When I am at its airports, in its 
parochial villages, its squalid metros, its bursting to the seams railway 
system and its rusted buses I can't help but be in awe of the generous soul of 
its people.  People who have so little and yet manage to give so much to the 
world. People who come out of its chawls and go onto to become world renowned 
designers, writers, technicians, chartered accountants, doctors and engineers. 
The austerity of life in India would have broken the back of the most hardy 
Survivor contestant in America.

And in this we have to take comfort.

Best,
Selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Woman.....Beach.......but a Goan woman on a Goan Beach???

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
Bosco,

As an expat yourself based half-way around the world, are you
suggesting that nobody could publish a photograph of you in a Toronto
mall, for instance? Should ethnicity be determined before before
publishing any photograph? That makes for a nightmare scenario for
photo-editors, who could be facing a possible minefield.

Miguel happened to come across a copy of the SpiceRoute journal in
question, and passed it on to me. As far as I noticed, nowhere has
SpiceRoute called the person a Goan woman.

(Even if they had, for argument sake, what does it mean to be Goan?
Someone who has spent three generations out of Goa is a Goan, based on
the accidents of genetics, but not someone who has spent
half-a-lifetime in Goa? I think we need to rethink concepts of
identity in our fast globalising world, though it might personally be
convenient for us to stick to past views.)

The lamanis are a colourful people, and the  hues of their bright
dresses makes a contrast against the Goan sand. Being kind of one
myself, I think I could imagine how a photographer's eye works --
specially photographers who are focussed more on beauty and aesthetics
rather than being politically correct.

When you say woman... beach... but a Goan woman on a Goan beach?
your subject line is vague and perhaps a trifle misleading. Are you
denying that Lamani women exist on Goan beaches, in their colourful,
all-too-visible attire. Are you suggesting people who don't have a
certain ethnicity cannot be depicted in photographs of Goa?

(The latter is an argument that could be stretched to dangerous
extends, specially because we have been repeatedly excluding The Other
in Goa, even those whom we claim to be our own people... for
generations, on grounds of class, caste, language, ethnicity, etc.) FN

Disclaimer: I write a small column for the magazine in question, but
this is not the reason for my above stand, which I probably would have
taken regardless in an attempt to question Goan fundamentalisms of
current times.

2009/1/7 Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com:
 SpiceJet was showcasing Goan Beaches in the December 2008 edition of their 
 inflight
 magazine SpiceRoute. Follow the link for the cover image of the magazine:
 http://www.ink-live.com/spiceroute/2008/dec/
 Double-click the image for larger image.
 If you wish to provide feedback to the editors of this magazine, email:
 Vanessa Mulquiney
 spiceroute...@ink-publishing.com
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[Goanet] BBC NEWS | Business | India IT boss quits over scandal

2009-01-07 Thread Ruby Goes

Hi Goanetters,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7815031.stm

Bad news, I'm afraid.

rubygoes



Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:15:37 +0530
From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org

John Dayal is not the only one to get thus targeted. Vijay Prashad, who has 
been in the forefront against communal intolerance, has another 
interestingly-distorted page on the Wikipedia.

Mario responds:

I have no idea whether John Dayal is a radical Christian or a fanatic.  My 
guess is that he is a good man.  However to suggest that he was unbiased as a 
journalist is laughable.

His friend and colleague, Hartman de Souza, unintentionally perhaps, showed 
that he clearly had personal biases that must have skewed his news reports 
about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  We also heard about his emotional 
involvement in warning Sikhs of danger, a commendable and humane action, but 
which had to have biased his news reports in that conflict as well.

None of this makes John Dayal a bad person - only one whose reporting needs 
corroboration and context before taking it to the bank.

Vijay Prashad, on the other hand, was in the forefront of the organized assault 
on the integrity of Sonal Shah, deliberately using unrelated evidence in order 
to smear and slander her.  He is about as tolerant as Karl Marx, whose 
plausible-sounding but illogical philosophy has caused more misery and 
misallocation of resources around the world than any other human being.

Unlike Dayal, Prashad benefits from the munificence and freedom of American 
academia, funded by the fruits of capitalism, while busily working to undermine 
the fundamental philosophies of freedom and capitalism that made America the 
altruistic society that it is today.





[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Sandeep Heble
Let me first categorically assert that the intentions of my post were
not in any way meant to discredit John Dayal or show him in poor
light.  If my earlier posts appeared in that way, I sincerely
apologize for the same as I have realised that the wordings of the
post were quite unfair to him.

I would accept the words of Hartman and Frederick that John Dayal is a
great humanitarian – something that I never disputed in my earlier
posts in the first place. As a matter of fact, some of the most
orthodox Missionaries who operate on Indian soils too are sincere
humanitarians. Being involved with a few social groups and having done
joint events with them, I can say with a large degree of conviction
that they too are good human beings whose love and concern for fellow
humans are qualities that are worthy of emulation.

I however believe that the ideological positions John Dayal or radical
evangelical groups hold are not in the interests of a modern
progressive society that a liberal Indian would wish to see.
Intolerance is a viscious cycle that results in violence that begets
in further violence; and in communal clashes it is always the innocent
citizens who suffer.

There is therefore a need to weed out all forms of intolerance,
orthodoxy and irrational behavior. This is the path that most modern
progressive Western democracies followed when they adopted a model of
secularism that was essentially anti-religion and if we want to
prevent communal clashes from happening this is the path that India
will need to emulate.

Through further investigations, I have susbsequently learnt that John
Dayal was a progressive liberal leader in the past.  However, while he
presently opposes the orthodoxy in Hinduism (which is a good thing) he
somehow does not seem to do the same when it comes to opposing the
fundamentalists operating in his religion.

My objections to him are therefore limited to this and if my opinions
about him are wrong, then the correct approach will be in presenting
the facts in a sincere and articulate manner, without resorting to
unfair name-calling.

For the records, I have nothing to do with RSS or Jana Sangh or BJP or
any other religious or political groups.

Finally, thanks to Cecil, Anand, Santosh, Bosco, Frederick and a few
others for their gracious support.

Cheers
Sandeep


Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
2009/1/7 Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com:
 Your allegation that Heble has 'Jan Singhi/RSS roots' is most
 intriguing. If you have proof of this allegation please place it on
 the table. Else I think you owe us an explanation and Sandeep an
 apology.

Is having Jan Sanghi/RSS roots a cardinal sin :-) Pun intended!

I think not!

Vidyadhar Gadgil has himself been in the RSS for a year or two, if I
recall rightly what he mentioned. For a (usually) upper caste
Maharashtrian boy (and now, in many more parts of India) being in the
RSS is simply like membership of a boys club, the Boy Scouts of the
post-Empire just after the sun set on it, Mocidade Portuguesa in
Salazar's Goa, or the Young Pioneers of the former Eastern Bloc
countries.

Then, we have all kinds of influences in our own lives. I myself was a
rather conservative Catholic in my younger, early teen days, looking
on with suspicion on the gods and beliefs of others! (This is not to
suggest one doesn't carry biases or bigotry now, in different forms.)

But, at the end of the day, our actions and attitudes TODAY matter
more than the connections of the past. Gadgil is as secular as they
come (a bit too much, if you ask me!) despite or because of his
background. I know of some strident campaigners for secularism, the
kind who might even alienate ordinary religious folk,  in places like
Delhi, who had their initial lessons in the RSS.

Membership of organisations is one thing; current attitudes and values
is another. The two may not be directly related too. I know a lot
of Congressmen who strike me as being pretty communal, casteist or
sectarian at least. Ditto for politicians of other parties. Leftists
who are unwilling to admit the politics of caste while talking
exclusively about class. Feminists who might end up being chauvinists
and inconsistent in a different sense. Secular campaigners who worship
the gods of modernity, science, knowitallism or whatever,.

At another level, one needs to remind oneself that the Jan Sangh (or
the BJP in its post-Gandhian socialism avatar) is just another
party for many Indians. Like how the Salcete (or other) Catholic would
not believe there's anything particularly sectarian or communal in
supporting the UGDP, Goa Congress or United Goans. It may be a tiny
core that sets the agenda, and fuels communal attitudes of a party,
but for most of the voters, a party is just that. A party, of the
political kind. A choice to misrule and corruption. A vote for
change, as Obama promises half-the-world away.

Of course, this is all in the spirit of engendering debate. I know
that Hartman's comments were made in the heat of the moment, and
Hartman thanks for showing magnamity in taking back unfair words said
in haste and hurry :-) It's right to recognise that we all can also be
wrong. FN


[Goanet] Goanet 2009 : Good Omens.

2009-01-07 Thread eric pinto
 They are back:  Theo, Tim, Rajan, Gabe, Merw/Mel, even Kevin.
  Ad Multos !   eric.





Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Fr. Ivo C da Souza

From: Pravin Sabnis pravinsab...@yahoo.com
I can personally vouch that my friend, Sandeep Heble is a very sensitive and 
humane person in reality. His various postings on the Goanet reflect his 
concern over the communal slants given to various topics. His views can be 
challenged but to label him a bigot is unfair. We must be careful in 
condemning somebody just because we disagree with that persons view, facts 
or opinions.
***I do appreciate discussion on journalistic ethics. Let it be 
scientifically geared and ethically guided. Let us be secular, even when 
we speak of Religion, respecting the views of others. Science does not 
contradict Religion. While reading the news, we need also genuine views. I 
read different news on Orissa happenings and keep it for myself.

Here it is:
Protect Christians or step down, India's top court instructs officials
Posted by: Ancy S DSouza Paladka mangaloreancathol...@gmail.com   salusoz
Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:25 pm (PST)
Protect Christians or step down, India's top court instructs officials in 
Orissa (Subscribe to RSS Feed)


New Delhi, Jan. 6, 2009 (CWNews.com) - In a searing criticism of the 
Hindu-nationalist government leadership in Orissa, India's top federal court 
has said that state leaders should resign if they cannot stop violence 
against the Christian minority there.


We will not accept the persecution of minority. If the state government is 
unable to protect them, it should resign, declared the federal court. The 
court was responding to a petition for protection entered by Archbishop 
Raphael Cheenath of Bhubaneswar. The petition cited the lack of security 
especially in the Kandhamal district, where thousands of Christians have 
fled from their homes to escape roaming Hindu mobs.


It is the duty of the state government to protect the minority community, 
the federal court stated. Addressing their criticism directly to government 
leaders, the judges said that officials in Orissa had offered protection to 
Christians only after 50,000 people of the minority community fled to the 
jungles.


The orchestrated violence against Christians in Kandhamal was let lose by 
Hindu groups following the murder of Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati-- the 
foremost figure among the Hindu nationalist groups in Orissa-- who was shot 
dead on August 23. Although Maoist rebels claimed responsibility for the 
murder, Hindu groups said the murder of the Hindu leader was a Christian 
conspiracy. In the aftermath of the killing, Hindu mobs attacked Christians 
in dozens of locations over a period of several weeks, with local police 
doing little to curb the violence. More than 70 Christians were killed, and 
over 6,000 homes looted or destroyed along with 200 churches. Roughly half 
of the 100,000 Christians in the Kandhamal district were driven from their 
homes.


Source: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=60270

***Are these communally biased news? Where is the truth? How to reach it?
What we want is peace. Let us all struggle for human rights. There is 
rampant violation of basic human rights in India. Let this Forum help the 
cause. Let our discussion unite us...

Regards.
Fr.Ivo





[Goanet] Death: Victor Froilano Bachmann De Mello (1926-2009)

2009-01-07 Thread Eddie Fernandes
7 Jan: Folha de Sao Paulo (Brazil). VICTOR FROILANO BACHMANN DE MELLO, aged
82, died in Brazil on 1 Jan. following a  cardiac arrest. He is survived by
two sons and four grandchildren.  Born in Goa, Victor graduated from MIT,
specializing in geotechnical engineering. His father was an army doctor and
politician in Goa … The Mass of the seventh day is today, at 12:30, at the
Church Our Lady of Brazil… For text, 254 words in Portuguese, see
https://acesso.uol.com.br/login.html?dest=CONTENTurl=http://www1.folha.uol.
com.br/fsp/cotidian/ff0701200923.htmCOD_PRODUTO=7

For a bio of him which appeared in ISSMGE Bulletin. Volume 1, Issue 2 Pages
6–8, see 
http://www.abms.com.br/novo/boletins/ISSMGE_Bulletin_Volume1_Issue2.pdf

For a short bio of Victor’s father, Dr. Froilano de Mello, by  Dr José
Colaço  Mr. Alfredo de Mello, see http://www.colaco.net/1/froilano.htm


If you have problems with accessing any of the links check out the photo
gallery at http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/


Eddie Fernandes



Re: [Goanet] Unqualified apology...

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Hartman de Souza hartman.deso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I would like him to consider that I may have been somewhat over inflamed by 
that reference to John, and in the process, before checking the context of 
the earlier postings, mistakenly assuming he came from the far right.
 

This is also a good time to consider that criticism of journalists and 
activists who consider themselves to be secular, and to be fighting in the 
interest of the poor or the minorities need not come from bigots or from the 
far right.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] Canadiana

2009-01-07 Thread Roland Francis
For some time now I have been thinking of writing of Canadian life
from a Goan perspective in a city that is home to one of the largest
Goan diasporas in the world.

Why do I think I can do this?

Perhaps it is that the human interest of every situation always claims
my attention before the political and economic factors do.
Perhaps it is that from the day I set foot on Canadian soil I have
made a living - all in sales and in that capacity have met some 7000
odd people (at least 2 new persons a day X 220 working days X 17
years) from every walk of life who have mostly enriched my existence
but sometimes disgusted it.
Perhaps you may find it interesting reading. If you don't, just delete my posts.

There will be no scientifically tested facts in my narratives. No two
witnesses to what I say. Few figures but many facets of what I have
seen, experienced and read about. There are many Canadian Goan readers
of Goanet and they are welcome to contradict or question what I say.
They are free to express their own opinions and I shall be happy for
it. I will merely write my own.

A happy new year and God's blessing to all.

Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] The Enigma That Is India

2009-01-07 Thread Roland Francis
Very well said Selma.

I echo every sentiment that you have expressed in this opinion.

Canada can beckon on my loyalty, but it is India that beckons on my love.

Roland.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:

In my book, India exemplifies all the horrors wrought onto society
because of uncontrolled population and it is bound to get worse. No
amount of wealth creation will penetrate 1.2 billion people in our
life-time at least..

Having said that, I must say that India is home to some of the most
benevolent and intelligent people in the world..


Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I thought you said that John Dayal had a rock solid
 reputation for integrity.  Now you have proved the opposite,
 that he did, in fact, have an anti-Israeli agenda.  Tsk,
 tsk, tsk.  Not very professional for a news reporter to
 accept favors from one side in a conflict he is covering. 
 Imagine what pro-Palestinian propaganda he must have filed
 as part of his news reports after fraternizing with the
 jihadis.


Mario may have a very pertinent point here. Why did this journalist not hitch a 
ride in an Israeli tank?  How can one trust a journalist who only covers one 
side of a major conflict, as an impartial and unbiased source of information?

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] A mine balance - by Wendell Rodricks

2009-01-07 Thread Cecil Pinto
A MINE BALANCE
By Wendell Rodricks

Ever since the protest of the arrogant and intrusive treatment of the
villagers protesting at Colamb village over the mining issue, there
has been, on another level a rather unjust emotion from activists and
reporters keen to sound the death knell for all miners.

This attitude is disrespectful for a Goan industry that has for many
decades now become a part of the Goan economic system. As I said in a
recent interview not all police, politicians, miners and
industrialists are bad. It's a few greedy, illegal, arrogant lot that
is giving everyone a bad name.

I have always looked practically at mining in Goa. Sure there is
degradation of the land. But there has also been a large revenue that
has benefited many. So there must be a balance in our approach to
mining in Goa.

Villagers and farmers deserve our collective sympathy because their
lives and livelihoods are at stake. So support them we must.

On the other hand, there are many mining companies who are
responsible. We cannot forget that some mining pioneers have given
back a lot to society in many ways. From schools and colleges,
research and medicine, arts and culture, these Goan industrialists
have given Goa a level of philanthropy that is commendable. Their
children in turn have continued the good work of their founding
fathers. And to their credit, this new generation has also ventured
into other areas of revenue for Goa.

It is now unjust to conduct a witch-hunt on an industry like mining.
It should be controlled and over a period of time phased out. But this
cannot happen overnight or in the next few years.

What can happen overnight though is justice for  peaceful farmers and
villagers who are being victimized by a few uncaring miners, a biased
police (that even goes to a level of arrogance to threaten peaceful
protesters with exile from their ancestral villages), a corrupt
South Goa politician who has a stake in this Colamb mine and a Chief
Minister who needs to personally witness the injustice of villages and
people in these far flung areas.

It is all very easy to sit in our cosy homes with seaviews and
hillscapes. But please go to these areas and see the rape of the land.
In the early years, mine licenses were few and controlled. Now it is
an Apocalypse of gigantic proportions. Even the miners would never
build their homes on the ridge of their own mines. If they did live
there instead of their plush homes, they would realize their
contribution to the destruction of a green Goa.

Three groups of people can make a change:

The police and politicians should be fair to Goa and Goans. They need
to decide if Goa's hinterland should be kept green for hinterland
tourism and future generations of our Goan children or destroyed
forever.

The miners need to have a symposium to discuss the present and future
situation of the mining industry. They need to condemn and marginalize
the illegal miners who are giving all miners a bad name.

Lastly, activist and the Goan public should open a dialogue with the
above mentioned groups and help heal a scarred land. The negotiating
table is the best option.

As we look at a New Year with optimism, it is my prayer and hope that
all Goans meet at a middle ground and gift Goa a better future this
festive season. For Colamb villagers, our prayers for peace, wisdom
and justice to the common man. A balanced Christmas and New Year 2009
to one and all.




The article above appeared in Herald on 26th Dec 2008
Wendell can be contacted at wendellrodricks at gmail dot com



[Goanet] Editorial in today's Gomantak Times - by Derek Almeida

2009-01-07 Thread Cecil Pinto
Goliath versus David

Among the many stories in the Bible is one of David versus Goliath in
which David a puny youth slays the Philistine giant with a sling
stone. David goes on to become King of Israel. In far away Colamb, a
similar battle is underway. A wiry Green is making life difficult for
a giant mining company. Enter a new vice president of communications
and the battle is taken to a new level – the legal level. The end is
awaited. Will David (the green activist) succeed in slaying Goliath
(Sociedade de Fomento Industrial Private Ltd)?

To think that the blogspot run by Seby Rodrigues has caused a loss of
Rs 500 crore to Fomentos, which has a mining lease in Colamb village
is hilarious. However, the fact that the company has gone to lengths
to file a defamation suit against Seby for reports published on his
blog is proof that this Siolim-based green is a thorn in the flesh of
the mining company. The petition filed by the company lists blog
entries which are defamatory to it. We do not intend to discuss
whether these entries are indeed defamatory or not. A court of law is
the right platform to test this charge, and if found guilty, Seby will
have to face the penalty decided by the court. There aren't any other
issues involved because the blog is not anonymous. In that respect
Seby plays with a straight bat.

The nature of the battle that is presently underway depends on where
you are standing. If placed on legal footing, the mining company
appears to be in the right as it has all the permissions to go ahead
with mining in Colamb. If you stand shoulder to shoulder with the
villagers of Colamb and green activists then the company comes out as
the 'bad guy' ripping up their lives and damaging precious forestland
and fields. If you love green Goa and have no stake in the mining
industry you will stand with the Greens. On the other hand if you have
a truck or two, a tyre repair shop or a metal fabrication unit, you
will sympathise with the miner. Taking sides is a hazardous job in
this situation because the positions taken by the dramatis personae
are extreme. There is no middle path here.

The Rs 500 crore defamation suit alters the equation a bit. While we
agree that every aggrieved party has a right to approach the courts
for redressal, in the case of Seby Rodrigues we question why the case
was filed in Kolkata and not Goa? Both Seby and Fomento are based in
Goa, the mine in question is in Goa, why go to a far off place like
Kolkata? One does not have to be Arun Shourie to conclude that the
purpose is to transport Seby to a place where he has virtually no
support and no access to friendly lawyers and to make it financially
difficult for him to run the case. Hence the court case has two
objectives –- defamation and harassment. This approach was adopted to
silence Rajan Narayan when he was editor of  'O Herald' and leaders of
the anti-Meta Strips agitation.

It might be important to recall that an earlier attempt to neutralize
Seby by labeling him as a Naxalite failed when the proof failed to
match up to the charge. Then, Seby  emerged victorious and the
sobriquet 'Naxalite Seby' was stuck on him by those who wished to
easily identify him in a state which probably has a thousand Sebys.
Nobody is questioning the technicality of whether the case can be
filed in Kokatta or not. But, if justice is the issue then the case
should be transferred to Goa where it can be heard. In other words,
the Vice-President (Communications) who has filed the case, should
also play with a straight bat.



--
7th January 2009 - Gomantak Times
=


[Goanet] Mining needs to be phased out - Interview with Wendell

2009-01-07 Thread Cecil Pinto
MINING NEEDS TO BE PHASED OUT:

In a tête-à-tête with Onilda Fernandes, Wendell Rodricks voices his
protest against mining companies, which are ravaging the distant
village of Colamb in search of wealth, and tells her that he has not
crossed swords with all mine owners.


You publicly announced that henceforth you would neither entertain nor
hang out with politicians or corporate honchos whose mining firms were
wrecking the environment. Could you elaborate?

I spoke with reference to the Colamb illage and the marauding mining
companies. Already one spring of water has been destroyed there,
something which was created by God. Water is needed to cultivate
fields, as a village survives on farming 365 days a year. Apart from
this, sometime back, an 85 year old woman was sent to jail for
protesting against the mining activity. Thanks to the huge generators
in the fields and mining trucks on the roads, villagers are
now deprived of their sleep as well. And through it all, the
government is protecting the perpetrators of this crime.


Would it be fair to put an end to all mining activity? After all, many
depend on it for their livelihood.

It would be unfair to abruptly stop all mining activity. Mining has
been a means of livelihood to industrialists as well as the common man
for a long time now. However, it has now become a problem to our
locals. I don't think anybody has the right to give our Goans
sleepless nights or employ outsiders who speak a foreign mother tongue
that our locals find difficult to converse with.
I have no personal axe to grind with the Chief Minister or Auduth
Timblo. But they cannot continue persecuting people to gain personal
wealth. Mining has to gradually phase out. It may take 5 or 10 years
but it cannot be allowed to destroy the existing eco system.


Will a boycott of the authorities help?

I do not know. It may sound aggressive, but I would like to use
peaceful means to protect Goans. I implore people who have money or
the ear of the government, to do pujas and pray to goddesses like
Saraswati so that wisdom is bestowed on miners and they stop ruining
people's lives. While praying to lord Ganesh to remove all obstacles,
these people
should realize that they themselves are the obstacles.  Its time
industrialists like Fomento and Timblo take a stand andthink about
people's welfare.


What about the ancillaries that depend on this sector, like truck
owners, garages, small restaurants etc? What will happen to them if
mining is stopped?

All are in debt, so that question doesn't even arise. Besides, they
can always move onto other means of sustenance. We too should look at
other areas of revenue. At present, our focus should be on the booming
sector, that is, the tourism industry. What are we going to show our
tourists, the ugly mines or a pristine Goa?


You have announced a personal boycott of politicians, but these
politicians are also representatives of the people, so, wouldn't it be
easier to work with them?

I don't protest against all politicians. There are good as well as bad
politicians. Mathany Saldanha is a very good politician.  Some
industrialists too are conscientious. I am against anybody who is
against the people of Goa. It breaks my heart that people are forced
to approach me, just because I am a famous person. They should be able
to go to the government or the police. Unfortunately here, politicians
control the police. Police too take the side of the rich.


Would this move of yours affect your business connections?
How can it? Politicians are not my clients. Neither do I depend on
them nor do they lean on me. According to me they lead a very boring,
corrupt existence. I, on the other hand lead a glamorous life with
film stars and models. I will continue to stand up for what I believe.


What about the Salgaonkar owned Goa Marriott Resort, where you
haveyour designer store?
They (Salgaonkars) have no connection with Colamb at the moment. But
if it comes down to moving my shop, that is really not a difficult
option for me.


Will you turn your back on the government completely?

I have always been available to the state when it required my help,
whether it was calling a dignitary for IFFI or designing police
uniforms. In this particular case, I have gone peacefully and spoken
to the DGP and chief secretary but to no avail. I don't see why people
do pujas for their family's benefit when they are destroying the lives
of so many others families.



--
The interview above appeared in Gomantak Times on 22nd December 2009
=


Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
2009/1/7 Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com:
 I would accept the words of Hartman and Frederick that John Dayal is a
 great humanitarian – something that I never disputed in my earlier
 posts in the first place. As a matter of fact, some of the most

Just to point out: I didn't say John Dayal is a great humanitarian.
I did say there are clear attempts to discredit him online, apparently
because of his campaigns to raise issues about religious intolerance
and communalism in India. Whether or not I agree with John Dayal's
priorities and approaches, this is despicable.

(Similar is the case with others who campaign on these concerns, such
as Vijay Prashad, who are victims of calaumny spread by Web 2.0
initiatives that were set up to empower the average citizen!)

While my colleague Hartman criticised Sandeep Heble, used some strong
word, and was gracious enough to have apologised for it, in fact, I
believe that in recent times, Sandeep's posts have brought in a voice
of reason to Goa-related debates in cyberspace.

On the other hand, I am concerned by the approaches of some other
middle-of-the-roaders who seem more ready to buy into communal
propaganda, to pick up from and point to dubious websites and use
these as evidence, and to duck major issues while getting every caught
up with details.

I expect more from individuals like Dr Santosh Helecar, whose recent
priorities seem to have included jumping to the rescue of the VHPA
Inc-linked Sonal Shah, to seek to discredit John Dayal and Vijay
Prashad, to question activists and campaigners, to proffer lengthy
arguments that deny the possibility of a polarisation along communal
lines specially in Goa, et al...

As for the others, who interprete everything in religious terms -- of
whichever religion's perspective -- they have been with us for long,
and one doesn't expect any better. But even if rational voices get
polarised, then isn't it cause for concern? FN
-- 
FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490


[Goanet] Goa's own Asatyam: Mining Terrorists

2009-01-07 Thread Pravin Sabnis
There is a web of deceit and lies 
being spun by the mining terrorists
and their hired goondas...

GAKUVED invites you 
to express solidarity with
Researcher  blogger Seby Rodrigues and 
human rights lawyer  Journalist Adv. John Fernandes 
on 12th January 2009, Monday
4.30 pm onwards
T B Cunha Hall, Panaji, Goa

Let's join our hands and voices 
to save Goa's waters, lands and people...

You must read

http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2009/01/fomentos-claim-rs500-crores-as-damages.html

http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/12/human-rights-lawyer-john-fernandes.html

http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/11/stop-mining-terrorism-in-goa-now.html


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[Goanet] GOACAN Consumers Road Safety Traffic Management Campaign from 8th January

2009-01-07 Thread Goa Desc
 -
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED
-
 ---
GOACAN to launch Consumers Road Safety
 Traffic Management Campaign from 8th January
---
GOACAN will launch its Consumers Road Safety  Traffic Management   Campaign
from 8th January to create an awareness among the Consumers
on the urgent need to instill traffic discipline and reduce accidents in
Goa.

During the month long campaign Consumer Forum volunteers will reach out
to riders, drivers, cyclists and pedestrians as well as to various Village
Panchayats  Municipal Councils to seek their participation in making Road
Safety  Traffic Management possible at the grass root level.

GOACAN will also take the campaign for Road Safety  Traffic Management
to Educational Institutions, Mahila Mandals  Women Self Helps Groups and
NGO's working with the disabled.

Proper knowledge of the rules of the road, safe driving practices, importance

of helmets  seat belts, dangers caused by mobile use  alcohol intake while

driving, proper maintainence  use of  vehicle lights, and observance of
speed
limits are some of the issues that will be highlighted by Consumer Forum
volunteers during this month.

Consumer Forum volunteers will promote the benefits of notified bus stops,
bus bays, footpaths, zebra crossings, subways, proper parking, maintainence
of speedbreakers, rumbler strips  proper signages.

GOACAN will pursue with the Public Works Department (PWD) the need
to set up a Road Engineering Cell (REC) as well as develop suitable guidelines

on the construction and maintainence of safe roads for the Village Panchayats

 Municipal Councils.

GOACAN will highlight the need for Comfortable, Affordable and Safe public
transport which would include bus services provided by Kadamba Transport
Corporation Ltd. and private operators so as to limit the use of personal
vehicles for commuting daily, reduce traffic congestion and accidents.

GOACAN will promote the use of the Traffic Police Complaint Cards
among senior citizens and Complaint Boxes of Consumer Welfare Clubs
(CWC) for student commuters in High Schools, HSS and Colleges
to report unsafe driving practices  harassment in public transport
vehicles.

During the month Forum volunteers will also interact with the Chairpersons
 of the Regional Transport Authority (RTA), District Magistrates as well as
senior officers of the Traffic Police and Directorate of Transport with
consumer feedback on Road Safety  Traffic Management.
-
GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
-
promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa
-
GOACAN Post Box  187 Margao,  Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box  78   Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mail: 
goa...@bsnl.inhttp://mail.bsnl.in/do/mail/message/mailto?to=goacan%40bsnl.in
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[Goanet] Socorro Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Thursday 8 January

2009-01-07 Thread Goa Desc
 --
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends.Help others be better informed
 
-
Socorro Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Thursday 8 January
-
The monthly general meeting of the Socorro Civic and Consumer Forum
will be held on Thursday, 8 January 2009 at the house of Roldao Carneiro,
Panchayat Rd. Porvorim, Socorro at 6pm.

The Agenda:  Draft Regional Plan 2021 with respect to Socorro village,
Traffic Safety Week 1-7 January 2009, International Year of Sanitation,
Using the Right to Information Act, Proposals for January Gram Sabha,
Consumer complaints on telephone, mobile, water, electricity, LPG.
The meeting is open to all members of the public.
--
Press Release from Valentine Coelho, (Convenor)
Socorro Civic and Consumer Forum Email socorro@gmail.com
-


[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:34:29 +0530
From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com

It is an irony of our Nation that while the propagation of orthodox
Hindutva is considered as bad and evil (and rightly so) the
propagation of an orthodox intolerant brand of Christianity is
considered an acceptable proposition. 

Mario observes:

Sandeep,

Once again we see some chaff among the wheat.  Where the heck did you get the 
idea that the propagation of an intolerant brand of Christianity is an 
acceptable proposition?  You just made that up.

As the only source of reason, truth and peace on Goanet, I must advise you that 
starting an essay with such contrived codswallop as your opening premise shown 
above, dilutes the rest of your thoughts, and should be avoided in the 
interests of credibility.

In case you are tempted to defend the indefensible, you will have to overcome 
the intellectual obstacle of my repeated characterizations of extremist 
Christians as fascists, just as Hindutvadis are fascists, not to mention 
Islamic terrorists.

You would do a lot better if you started with a specific and accurate premise 
as the foundation for whatever else you may want to say.

I would be hard pressed to characterize anything I have seen on Goanet as 
anything more than biased and passionate advocacy of a poster's point of view 
rather than anything inherently evil or deliberately destructive.











Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:
 
 I expect more from individuals like Dr Santosh Helecar,
 whose recent priorities seem to have included jumping to the rescue of
 the VHPA Inc-linked Sonal Shah, to seek to discredit John Dayal and
 Vijay Prashad, to question activists and campaigners, to proffer
 lengthy arguments that deny the possibility of a polarisation along
 communal lines specially in Goa, et al...
 

Frederick is now trying to use the crutch of a shameless guilt by association 
to discredit me in a public forum by using the same guilt by association 
tactic. And this while whining about what he calls attempts to discredit John 
Dayal and Vijay Prashad.

I guess Frederick believes he has the right to discredit private citizens in 
public forum but we do not have the right to criticize or question the 
credibility of journalists like him or activists and campaigners.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


Re: [Goanet] Woman.....Beach.......but a Goan woman on a Goan Beach???

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia
2009/1/7 Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com:

 SpiceJet was showcasing Goan Beaches in the December 2008 edition of 
 their inflight magazine SpiceRoute. Follow the link for the cover image 
 of the magazine:

 http://www.ink-live.com/spiceroute/2008/dec/

 Double-click the image for larger image.
 If you wish to provide feedback to the editors of this magazine, email:
 Vanessa Mulquiney, spiceroute...@ink-publishing.com

Mario observes:

Hey, Bostiaon,

What's the problem?  Looks like a colorful new Goan woman to me:-))

What did you want?  A village Aunty in her Sunday best with veil, or a 
beautiful Dhobitalao maiden in skinny jeans, or a bikini perhaps?





[Goanet] Tiatr P O L I C E - a trailer

2009-01-07 Thread JoeGoaUk
POLICE – a trailer
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=6CR7e68qJmQ


Tiatr POLICE by Com. Agostinho likely to complete 200 shows by Feb end   It was 
first released on last Easter on 23/3/08

This year's easter falls on April 12
Where as this year's carnival falls on 21st Sat. Feb.

By end of this month,  Tiatr POLICE  likely to completes 175 shows



Some Pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/3175452158/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/3175455160/


Prev
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Trailer
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[Goanet] PHOTOS: Goanetters/GoaSudharop.org 2009 meet

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
From my Olym5Bpus e510: Photos of the Goanetters/GoaSudharop.org 2009 meet


 Writer and early Goanetter (now based here!) VM in Goa;
 Sethu's Dr Nandita de Souza; ex-Sesa's chartered accountant
 Dinesh Dias; agri expert Miguel Braganza; humour writer
 Cecil Pinto; early Goanetter (formerly with the World Bank
 and the Goa Computers in Schools Project) Emmanuel da Silva;
 architect and campaigner Dean D'Cruz; Peaceful Society's
 Soter D'Souza; Goa books and more Goa books; Ibonio who
 steers GoaSudharop.org in Goa; ex-editor (Indian Express,
 Reader's Digest India) Rahul Singh, son of the 94-year-old
 ex-editor Khushwant Singh; Percival Noronha, ex-Goa senior
 bureaucrat who has help build and sustain the friends of
 astronomy, Goa; very early Goa-based Goanetter TCA Tony
 Correa Afonso; Canada-returned Manuel Caldeira of
 Chandor/Moira; retired principal Tony De Sa of Moira,
 currently working on a book on Goans in Africa; cartoonist
 Alexyz Fernandes; history writer Fr Nascimento of Santo
 Estevam; writer Valerie (left), friend, and Melinda
 Powel-Coutinho; Fr Frederick of Pilar; artist Sylvia
 Braganza; Cmdr John Eric Gomes; friends from Sweden;
 participants from Sangath; architect Dean D'Cruz; guess
 who!; Goanetters from Germany; architect and campaigner
 Pravin Sabnis; Ana Maria Goswami; Junior George Pinto with
 books; architect and seranader of MargaoJose Carlos da Viega
 Gracias; Fatima Pais from Delhi; Edgar from Photo.Montreal
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[Goanet] Goa news for January 8, 2009

2009-01-07 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** I can have as many women as I want: Goa minister - Sify
[Jan 6, 2009]  Panaji: Rejecting his estranged wife's
allegation of bigamy, Goa Tourism Minister Francisco alias
Mickky Pacheco on Tuesday said he could have as many women ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14831661?vsv=TopHP1cid=1286829232ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNE5-IDGNZB5AJBfVFCHeTsqo0NApA

*** German girl rape: Charges against Goa minister may be
dropped - Times of India
[18 hours ago]  PANAJI: The Goa police are likely to drop the
charge against state education minister Atanasio Monserrate of
abetting his son Rohit, charged of raping a ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/German_girl_rape_Charges_against_Goa_minister_may_be_dropped/articleshow/3945921.cmscid=1287642536ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNFZIQH5-wLA44PXQYrZJn1wzwSpQA

*** Goa delegation to meet PM on Mhadei issue today - Times of
India
[Jan 6, 2009]  He also said that nothing anything specific to
Goa was discussed at the meeting. It was a general meeting,
Kamat said.
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_delegation_to_meet_PM_on_Mhadei_issue_today/articleshow/3945095.cmscid=1287418160ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNEZazBfewXkfbYAV7EtGr3ZnsqItw

*** 3 SEZs in Goa can be denotified on developers\' consent:
Centre - Economic Times
[9 hours ago]  NEW DELHI: The Centre has reiterated that the
three notified special economic zones (SEZs) in Goa could be
denotified only if the state government and the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Infrastructure/3_SEZs_in_Goa_can_be_denotified_on_developers_consent_Centre/articleshow/3948402.cmscid=1287728642ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNFggl3IK0pe1UOIxdStORx5wXQZ8A

*** Goa team asks PM for tribunal on Mhadei - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  Water Resources minister Felipe Neri Rodrigues
told TOI from Delhi that the PM was sympathetic to Goa's demands
and had promised to take up Goa's case with ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_team_asks_PM_for_tribunal_on_Mhadei/articleshow/3949546.cmscid=1287774498ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNEo7vMYoIy97XUEkAnEtmlfxRUr2A

*** Goa unaffected by transporters\' strike - Times of India
[Jan 6, 2009]  PONDA: The nationwide indefinite transport
strike, which began on Monday, has not yet affected the supply
of essential commodities to the state as the Ponda ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_unaffected_by_transporters_strike/articleshow/3943132.cmscid=0ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNEcKT-pUWSVhLngbLPkaeYXjmpizQ

*** 4-feet sea level rise by 2100 could threaten Goa - Herald
Publications
[20 hours ago]  ... destinations like Goa (a quarter of the
States coastal areas is low-lying), Florida, New Orleans as well
as the Mekong Delta in South-East Asia. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=15125cid=2cid=1287672369ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNF9Cqgxw2pkw1YNVzLjW5IsOFfIzg

*** Goa Board charts exam schedule - Times of India
[Jan 6, 2009]  The Goa Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary
Examinations (GBSHSE) has drawn up the final schedule for board
exams for the year 2008-09, said chairman ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_Board_charts_exam_schedule/articleshow/3944127.cmscid=0ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNH2UNFVA8sZTcpdeIbWDD4Yp4ilSQ

*** Britons seek help from commission - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  PANAJI: The two British nationals, against whom
the Mumbai enforcement directorate (ED) acted for illegally
purchasing property in Goa, have written to ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Britons_seek_help_from_commission/articleshow/3949174.cmscid=0ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNHF8ls3YEcQpsvvz90_G9yOJmkLTw

*** Damu Naik lashes out at S Goa collector for being
inefficient\' - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  MARGAO: Fatorda MLA Damodar Naik on Wednesday
flayed the South Goa district administration for its failure in
taking adequatesanitary measures at the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Damu_Naik_lashes_out_at_S_Goa_collector_for_being_inefficient/articleshow/3949164.cmscid=0ei=CkllSc3CKaXWMPrjsMoDusg=AFQjCNE9Nog8Z0aSENEgFRGEpHUJ2ek9Eg


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Where is this?

2009-01-07 Thread Anthony Fernandes

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Joe,

Hem Colva mure



From: JoeGoaUk
Sent: January 7, 2009 4:42 PM
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: Talking Photos: Where is this?


What is this and where is this??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3175932779/sizes/l/
This one is not 'muge bhail'
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3175933437/




[Goanet] Goa Sudharop gives away donations for social cause

2009-01-07 Thread Goanet News Service

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Goa Sudharop gives away donations for social cause

HERALD REPORTER
PANJIM, JAN 7


Donations worth lakhs of rupees were made by Goa Sudharop to several deserving 
educational and social institutions and NGOs serving public cause, at the 
annual 
awards presentation function held at Hotel Mandovi, here last evening.

Goa Sudharop community development Inc is a Goan diaspora non-profit, volunteer 
NGO 
working for betterment of Goa and Goans worldwide. It aims to promote the 
sustainable development of Goa and the advancement of Goans, especially in the 
rural 
and village communities.

To allow Goans to fully get involved in the development of their homeland. It 
also 
works with Goan NGOs to support humanitarian and social welfare projects which 
benefit Goans.

Three cash awards were given to the winners of the essay competition: 
Education in 
Goa: What is needed? held for heads of schools in Goa. Two scholarships to 
financially deserving meritorious Hindu girl and Christian boy were awarded.

Udaya Venkatesh Ballikar was honoured with Goa Sudharop Fellowship for his 
lifelong, 
dedicated and inspiring work in education. Also donations were made to homes 
for the 
aged and sick.

A thought provoking Powerpoint presentation 'Educational Scenario in Goa' was 
made 
as part of the programme by Fr Frederick Rodrigues sfx, Principal, Fr Agnel 
College 
of Arts and Commerce, Pilar.

The programme started and was interspersed with classic and Goan folk dances, 
the 
credit for which goes to the students of Fr Agnel College and their Principal.

Since its inception, Goa Sudharop has partnered with various NGOs like Goa 
Desc, 
Green Cross, Bailancho Saad, Goa Foundation, Peoples' Movement for Civic Action 
and 
other groups working at Goa's grassroots level.

Goa Sudharop also supports and funds individuals who have done outstanding work 
in 
Goa, through the annual Goa Sudharop fellowship.

For more information on the organization visit website: www.goasudharop.org or 
contact Ibonio M B D'Souza on 2751002.


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[Goanet] How to prevent frauds like Satyam's?

2009-01-07 Thread info

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How do frauds like that of Satyam happen / remain hidden for so long?
Fraud details are at
http://www.karmayog.org/message/upload/39/1/Satyam_Computer_Services_Ltd
_070109 (1).pdf
 
Have you faced problems as a Director, banker, auditor, employee,
supplier, buyer, shareholder, when you came across fraudulent practices
in a company and tried to deal with it? 
 
What would be your recommendations to prevent fraudulent activities in
companies?
 
e.g. Should SEBI have a form like http://www.karmayog.org/WARN/ ?
 
Regards
Vinay
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[Goanet] Credibility of facts reported by religious campaigners/spokespersons

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar

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Mario has very nicely stated why it would be unwise to trust what is reported 
by a journalist who has an overt bias in favor or against one side in a 
communal conflict. I illustrate below how in the past the National Commission 
of Minorities has disputed the facts reported by the religious campaigner 
that Frederick used as the only source in one of his recent articles.

THE ALLEGATION OF COMMUNAL VIOLENCE by Frederick's source

The aicc and AICU sent a team of academicians and human rights activists 
including John Dayal, and Jesuit Fathers Jacob and Sebastian to Mathura to 
assess the situation in western UP. The aicc/AICU statement reminded 
authorities that though each incident of violence had its own genesis, they 
were knit in a pattern because of the campaign of hate and openly declared 
mission of the Sangh Parivar that they will oppose missionary activity in the 
country using force if required. In the latest incident in Haryana 3 nuns of 
the FMM order going to the midnight Easter mass at the Rewari Catholic Church 
were stalked and attacked by unknown men on a scooter on Saturday/Sunday 
midnight.

Excerpt from a statement issued by Joseph D'Souza, Chairman, All India 
Christian Council and John Dayal, National Secretary for Public Affairs, All 
India Christian Council on April 25, 2000

For the full statement please see this link: 
http://indianchristians.in/news/content/view/1369/42/


REFUTATION OF THE ALLEGATION by The National Commission of Minorities

The Deputy commissioner of Rewari accompanied by Fr. Philip and two nuns Sr. 
Ludmila D'souza and Sister Gertrude Ashram, Rewari visited the commission on 
27th April, 2000 on the request of the commission to brief on the incident 
which took place on 22nd April, 2000 where in two out of the three nuns were 
injured. Sister Ludmila who was unhurt gave out the details of the accident. 
The Deputy commissioner was of the view that this is a case of an accident and 
there were no communal overtones. This was fully corroborated by Fr. Philip 
Parmar and the two nuns who went to the extent of stating that the motive 
behind the publicity with regard to the above accident is not understood as the 
atmosphere in Rewari has all along been very peaceful. They also mentioned that 
some western forces were trying to give a political colour to the incident and 
create a wedge among the Hindus and Christians residing in the town. We are 
therefore of the view that this is a
 case of simple accident and that no communal meaning be attributed to it.

Excerpt from a report prepared by the National Commission of Minorities team 
consisting of Justice Mohammed Shamim, Chairman, Mr. Tarlochan Singh, 
Vice-Chairman, and two members, Mr. John Joseph and Lt. Gen. A. M. Sethna 
(Retd) sometime after April 27, 2000

For the full report please contact The National Commission of Minorities at 
http://ncm.nic.in/

Cheers,

Santosh



  


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (8Jan09)

2009-01-07 Thread alexyz fernandes

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** Mine Owneres Awards 2008 **
  Compere Sujay Gupta

For showing great concern over the great Rape of Mother Earth.a Rs 500/- 
crore 
suit for Seby Rodrigues..

P.S. Goans...Fashion DZiners 're upset twas planned in Kolkata!


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[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:09:23 +0530
From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com

This is the path that most modern progressive Western democracies followed when 
they adopted a model of secularism that was essentially anti-religion and if we 
want to prevent communal clashes from happening this is the path that India 
will need to emulate.

Mario responds:

Sandeep,

Buried deep within your philosophical ruminations I often find some gratuitous 
chaff among the wheat that are whimsically created out of whole cloth.  Your 
sentiments may not rise to the level of religious antipathy, but they come 
awfully close.  I pointed out one instance recently where you turned an 
anti-religious insult completely on its head, using your personal presumptions 
to try and explain what another poster had not said. Another example is shown 
above.

Secularism is the notion that religion should be excluded from official 
governmental decision-making and institutions.  This is a good thing.  Nowhere 
in true secularism is there any hint of an essential anti-religious 
sentiment.  In fact, true secularism allows unfettered religious practice but 
keeps it out of the public domain.

For example, in a modern cradle of implacable secularism, religion makes only 
one direct and obvious appearance in the original US Constitution that seems to 
point to a desire for some degree of religious freedom. That appearance is in 
Article 6, at the end of the third clause:

No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or 
public Trust under the United States.

The First Amendment to the US Constitution refers to religion thus:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 
prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...

That's it.  Short aand sweet but saying it all.

Thus a) a person's religion is not permitted as a qualification for any public 
office, and b) the US legislature can pass no law establishing any particular 
religion, or prohibiting the free excercise of a citizen's choice of a 
religion, or, by extension, atheism.

I wouldn't consider any of this anti-religion, just the opposite; it prohibits 
government from interfering in a citizen's religious choice or practice. 









[Goanet] Taking up complaints...

2009-01-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha

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A nice complaints form... maybe Goa could use something like this:
http://www.karmayog.org/WARN/
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Re: [Goanet] PHOTOS: Goanetters/GoaSudharop.org 2009 meet

2009-01-07 Thread Air Co Ent.

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From Canada

Wonderful work

The very best.

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[Goanet] Major corporate fraud in India

2009-01-07 Thread Mario Goveia

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How do these guys pull this off without collusion from accountants, auditors, 
cash managers, etc.?

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article5464908.ece

Excerpt:

One of India's biggest-ever corporate scandals took a sensational new turn 
today when the chairman of Satyam, the IT services giant, admitted he had 
orchestrated a $1billion (£669 million) fraud, and resigned. 

B. Ramalinga Raju, the founder and chairman of Satyam, which means truth in 
Sanskrit, said in a letter to the board that he had wildly inflated the 
company’s profitability for several years. 

This resulted in 50.4 billion rupees ($1 billion) worth of fictitious” cash on 
the company’s balance sheet at the end of September. 

It was like riding a tiger, not knowing when to get off without being eaten, 
Mr Raju said, describing how the fraud, which he claimed had begun as an effort 
to smooth over a minor accounting discrepancy, had attained unmanageable 
proportions as the size of the company operations grew. 
[end of excerpt]




Re: [Goanet] Woman.....Beach.......but a Goan woman on a GoanBeach???

2009-01-07 Thread Bosco D'Mello

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Mario is excused for his dull response in this thread. My original post lacked  
the 
right keywords that bring out his usual dour responses. Keywords like Saddam, 
Bush, 
Iraq, Islamophobia, Gaza, Jews, bail-out, bankruptcy, etc..

But Frederick here has thrown a few questions at me and answered them himself. 
Nevertheless, I shall extrapolate on the purpose of my message.

 As an expat yourself based half-way around the world, are you suggesting
 that nobody could publish a photograph of you in a Toronto mall, for instance?

RESPONSE: First, good luck finding me in a Toronto mall and secondly, I hope 
you 
protest if somebody publishes my photo and describes me as a descendent of 
North 
American First Nations people.

My post merely questioned whether this was a Goan Woman and whether this was a 
Goan 
Beach? Why? Keep reading.

This is what transpired minutes before I sent my earlier message to Goanet. 
Goanetter Oscar Lobo during the course of his travels in India last month 
encountered the Dec 2008 edition of SpiecRoute Mag and wrote the editor of the 
magazine (and copied me besides several other Goans) about the distortion 
between 
the ethnicity of the woman in photo and the caption of the article beach goa.

The editor responded thus:

*** begin snippet 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Vanessa Mulquiney wrote:

Dear Mr Lobo,

Thank you for your email dated 6 Jan 2009. We appreciate your feedback and glad 
to 
hear that you enjoy travelling SpiceJet.

In reference to the December issue of spiceroute, the professional photo 
library 
image portrayed on the front cover is that of a Goan hill tribe woman and not a 
Rajasthani woman as claimed. While we are aware that the image is not as common 
as 
beach goers wearing a sarong or bathing suit or the traditional Goan sari, for 
example, but it is incorrect to say that this image is not an uncommon sight in 
Goa.

The spiceroute team is a mix of both western and Indian staff - including a 
Goan 
woman - who work to ensure that the magazine celebrates the wonderful diversity 
of 
India, is factually correct and culturally sensitive.

*** end snippet ***


I responded to the editor immediately thus:


*** begin snippet ***

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Bosco wrote:

Dear Vanessa,

I agree with your assertion that the image in question is not an uncommon 
sight in 
Goa. However please note it does not make it an image of a Goan woman.

Since you state this is an image of a Goan hill tribe woman, perhaps you or 
your 
staff that includes a 'Goan woman' would care to name the tribe.

Even though I am a Goan, it is possible I do not know everything about my 
heritage 
and its diversity. On the flipside is it possible for Ink-Publishing to 
acknowledge 
that the woman in question is a gross misrepresentation of an ethnic Goan 
woman; 
ethnic as in a Goan woman not wearing a sarong or bathing suit or the 
traditional 
Goan sari. I acknowledge the image is of a woman probably on a Goan beach and 
nothing more.

A 30-second google revealed the following:

http://www.maharashtratourism.net/images/tribes.jpg
http://www.maharashtratourism.net/tribes.html

And there are thousands of similar photographs
I reckon you understand what is being parlayed here.

Wish you, Ink Publishing and SpiceJet the best in 2009!!

*** end snippet ***


I notice subsequent to my message to the editor several other Goans wrote the 
editor 
of SpiceRoute Mag and I'm certain Frederick has received copies of the same. If 
anybody agrees with the editor's assertion above perhaps you can name the tribe 
like 
I have requested. Or perhaps you know the 'Goan woman' on the SpiceRoute Mag 
staff?? 
Or perhaps this is a 'hill tribe' that has recently re-settled in Goa and has 
been 
christened 'Goan' by some of our powerful and mighty.

The photo in question is most likely a $49 stock photo from Getty Images that 
was 
improperly captioned by the original photographer.

- Bosco

PS. Ofcourse we will hear from Mario again, he must add to the din. 




[Goanet] THE RISE OF ASIA

2009-01-07 Thread Lokseva

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THE RISE OF ASIA

by Eduardo Faleiro

The first Summit Conference of the Group of 20 was held last November in 
Washington 
D.C. The G-20 brings together twenty of the most important industrialized and 
emerging market countries across the world. They represent around 90 per cent 
of the 
global gross domestic product, 80 per cent of the world trade as well as two 
thirds 
of the world population. Its economic weight and broad membership makes the 
G-20 the 
single most important forum to address global economic and financial issues. 
The 
Conference dealt with the present global recession and called for a 
comprehensive 
reform of the international financial institutions so that they can more 
adequately 
reflect changing realities in the world economy and be more responsive to 
future 
challenges. The Conference underscored the effective shift of economic power 
to the 
Asia Pacific region and felt the need to involve China and India, the two 
rising 
economic giants, in the solution of the present crisis.

The rise of Asia began with the extraordinary economic progress of Japan in the 
1950s and 60s; it was followed by the remarkable advance of the Asian Tigers 
(Hong 
Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore) and other countries of South East 
Asia; and 
now the impressive growth of India and China. By the middle of this century, 
China 
is expected to be the largest economy in the world and India the third largest. 
By 
that time, Asia might hold seven of the ten largest national economies.

Yet, whilst Asia witnesses rapid economic growth there are vast numbers of 
people in 
this continent who face grave problems of illiteracy, disease and poverty. What 
is 
required is greater attention to inclusive development that benefits 
significantly 
most people and not just a fringe. Market forces need to be regulated to this 
effect. Often, the present economic policies accentuate economic disparities, 
widen 
the gap between the rich and the poor and lead to radicalization and political 
instability. The discontent of the vast masses has already resulted in the 
collapse 
of several Governments across the continent.

Good governance calls for the implementation of the Millennium Development 
Goals 
adopted by the United Nations in the year 2000. The eight goals are eradication 
of 
extreme poverty and hunger, universal primary education, gender equality and 
empowerment of women, reduction of child mortality, improvement in maternal 
health, 
eradication of HIV/AIDS, malaria and other major diseases, environmental 
sustainability and global partnership for development. Whilst some Asian 
countries 
have achieved and indeed surpassed these goals there are several others who 
will not 
be able to attain them by 2015 as scheduled, unless there is strong political 
will 
and the Governments concerned earmark sufficient funds for the purpose.

The economic and social welfare of a country is advanced considerably if it 
interacts as part of a regional block rather than individually. An integrated 
regional economy accelerates economic growth of the member countries through 
the 
advantage of geographical proximity and economies of scale. The European Union 
is a 
model in this regard. It shows that even countries that have been at war for a 
thousand years can co-operate and work together for common benefit. ASEAN is 
another 
good example of regional co-operation.

India contributes to Asian co-operation and solidarity. The Look East policy 
is 
intended to strengthen our relations with East and South East Asia and is a 
priority 
of our foreign policy. Relations between India and Japan have undergone a 
qualitative and significant improvement in recent years. The two Prime 
Ministers 
have been meeting regularly every year since 2005. A Global and Strategic 
Partnership between the two countries was established in December 2006. India 
and 
China have also realized that they can benefit from mutual co-operation and are 
attempting to do so.

South Asia is an area of regional co-operation in which I took particular 
interest 
whilst in the Government of India and as a Member of Parliament. The South Asia 
Association for Regional Co-operation (SAARC) brings together India, Pakistan, 
Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan and now also Afghanistan. There has been 
some 
progress in economic co-operation in the region and this should lead to 
improved 

[Goanet] Canadiana - Toronto's Goan Fabric

2009-01-07 Thread Roland Francis

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The Greater Toronto Area encompasses the City of Toronto (itself an
amalgamation of the former cities of Scarborough, North York, York,
East York and Etobicoke) and Mississauga. However the GTA as it is
known, extends over a wide swathe of residential neighborhoods that
would take you 2 hours driving time at 120 kmph on the connecting
Highway 401 from west to east, end to end.

The main body of Goans live in Scarborough, Mississauga and Markham,
which is north of Toronto, although in the last few years they have
inhabited the newer neighborhoods of Pickering and Ajax. Downtown
Toronto has it's share of Goan yuppies (with no children) and retirees
who have splurged on luxury lakeside condos from the generous proceeds
of downsizing from large homes that eventually became empty nests with
all their children gone. The population of the GTA is about 4 million
souls of which Goans must be about 70 to 80 thousand. The Goan numbers
are estimates.

Goan immigration to Toronto, indeed Canada, came from the following waves:
1. Bombay Goans who came in the 50s and 60s with Indian passports and
were admitted into Canada without any visas due to Commonwealth
status. They just bought an air ticket and immigrated.
2. Karachi Goans also in the same period who were getting
disillusioned with the Islamic State and were suffering religious
persecution.
3. East Africa Goans from the 70s. The first major number was in 1972
due to Idi Amin's Uganda Asian expulsion.
4. Arabian Gulf Goans from the late 80s. The first Gulf wave was from Bahrain.
5. Bombay Goans from the 90s

The Gulf and Bombay Goans continue to come in significant numbers.

As a population, Goans are well-settled and could be considered
affluent relative to other communities. Although mainly from the
middle, non-professional class (unlike the USA), they worked
diligently and hard, bought homes and accumulated assets. The Goans
from East Africa are the most well-off as they joined the Federal and
Provincial Govt in large numbers (shades of East Africa) and
eventually the Govt turned out to be the best employer. Good salaries
and especially fat retirement pensions. A husband and wife couple who
reached the 80 factor (50 years old + 30 years service) get a monthly
pension of about $8,000 per month in total. This is a significant
amount, considering that the mortgage has been paid off, the children
studies completed and no major expenses to take care of.

The Bombay Goans have been the biggest achievers. They did not
hesitate to re-qualify, a distinct mentality difference from the Gulf
Goans whose main mantra seemed to be I am too old to study, the brain
cells have rusted. The BGs also did not hesitate to take low paying
jobs and rose quickly through the ranks. A main Canadian feature which
takes much getting used to is start low and rise fast. Another is
very few non-Canadian qualifications are given any importance and the
third is the insistence on Canadian experience. The new immigrant
gets stumped with this. How can I get Canadian experience if you don't
give me the first job they ask.

In the first year or two, the new Goan immigrant gets really
disheartened. He has left his comfort zone, his life-long friends, his
titled position and is forced to draw down on his savings which can
disappear at an alarming rate. This is the Canadian test of fire. Most
survive. Only to be faced with the Canadian winter, which he discovers
is about a little less than half the year.

The weather is the subject of another chapter.

-- 
Roland Francis
Toronto
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Re: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Santosh Helekar

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--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:

 Is having Jan Sanghi/RSS roots a cardinal sin:-) Pun intended!

 I think not!

 Vidyadhar Gadgil has himself been in the RSS for a year or
 two, if I recall rightly what he mentioned. For a (usually)
 upper caste Maharashtrian boy (and now, in many more parts of India)
 being in the RSS is simply like membership of a boys club, the Boy
 Scouts of the post-Empire just after the sun set on it, Mocidade
 Portuguesa in Salazar's Goa, or the Young Pioneers of the former
 Eastern Bloc countries.


Why is Vidhyadhar Gadgil not guilty by association with RSS?

On another front, when Frederick was discrediting someone else, using garbage, 
whom he referred to as a strange person for some reason, he called it rightful 
criticism of a public figure or some such thing. Now when people are merely 
unwilling to believe the facts reported by journalists and activists because 
of their overtly stated biases, he is whining that these poor upright folk like 
John Dayal and Vijay Prashad are being unfairly discredited on Goanet.

What a spectacular display of talking from both sides of his mouth, and both 
ends of his body!

This is pure self-serving political posturing based on convenience and the 
wind, not secularism or concern for the minorities of any kind.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron

2009-01-07 Thread Roland Francis

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Mario and Santosh,

I find this quite absurd.

You have a problem with John Dayal for riding into Israeli-Palestinian
clashes with Palestinian fighters in a jeep rather than embedded with
an Israeli tank?

Have you considered that he wanted to report a perspective other than
what Israel would manage for the reporters it took?

Have you considered that while the world would see the Israeli side of
the equation, John Dayal may have wanted to show the scene from the
other side?

Are you too too drunk with the power and propaganda that the US foists
upon the rest of the world?

Roland.


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Mario may have a very pertinent point here. Why did this journalist not hitch 
 a ride in an Israeli tank?  How can one trust a journalist who only covers 
 one side of a major conflict, as an impartial and unbiased source of 
 information?
 Cheers,
 Santosh

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Re: [Goanet] Woman.....Beach.......but a Goan woman on a Goan Beach???

2009-01-07 Thread Arwin Mesquita

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Dear Fredrick (Ref your comment/para below)

For respective Identities in particular; We need to seriously look at how
other SO CALLED Globalised Countries are trying to protect thier
identities e.g. UK, France, USA, Australia, UAE via immigration controls,
previous  recent policies to integrate immigrants into their specified
identities/language/culture (based on past views) so that a for example say
 French Identity or a French Man/Woman, can be clearly identified whether
he/she is in Goa, Canada, US, UK or any place for that matter; The same
should be for Goans irrepective of location!!

Regards,
Arwin

Fredrick
(Even if they had, for argument sake, what does it mean to be Goan?
Someone who has spent three generations out of Goa is a Goan, based on
the accidents of genetics, but not someone who has spent
half-a-lifetime in Goa? I think we need to rethink concepts of
identity in our fast globalising world, though it might personally be
convenient for us to stick to past views.)


[Goanet] Tiatr festival gets underway at Neturlim

2009-01-07 Thread Goanet AE

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Tiatr festival gets underway at Neturlim

HERALD NEWS DESK
PANJIM, JAN 7

The second Konkani tiatr festival was inaugurated by senior actor Fransquina 
Fernandes from Neturlim village at Neturlim, Dongrim recently.

Fransquina appreciated GKA for organising such a festival for the people of 
Neturlim 
and recollected her days as an artist and expressed deep gratitude towards 
organisers for giving her an opportunity to inaugurate the 2nd Tiatr Festival 
of 
GKA.

N Shivdas, President of Goa Konkani Akademi (GKA) presided over the inaugural 
function. Sanguem MLA and chief guest Vasudev Gaonkar lauded the Goa Konkani 
Akademi 
for organising the five-days tiatr festival.

Earlier the president of Konkani Machi Mogi, Teotino D'Souza welcomed and 
appealed 
the locals to make the festival a success. Later a tiatr 'Pull lam' was staged 
by 
the Alfi Art production of Divar. Sarpanch Shashikant Gaonkar was the guest of 
honour on the occasion.


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