[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: A Question of Privilege? (FN, in Herald)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - A Question of Privilege? Reviewing 'breach of privilege' cases, FREDERICK NORONHA concludes that press and politicians both need to regain lost credibility After the Goa Assembly and the fourth estate crossed swords recently, there have been a number of opinions on what the ideal relationship between press and politicians should be. Some have been critical of the media, while others have interpreted the cautionary messages to the media as an unwelcome form of pressure. The point, however, is not about individual politicians, or certain newspapers alone, but rather about the tradition that has evolved in legislature-media interactions over the years. Both the legislature and the media believe they are acting in the best interest of society. But the relationship between the two can, and does, turn antagonistic sometimes. The whole rationale for the evolution of parliamentary privileges was the protection of democracy against the King, when British democracy was in its infancy (centuries ago), comment Shobha Desai and Colin Gonsalves, in the book 'Freedom of the Press'. They argue: It is clear that many recent privilege motions taken out by various legislatures against journalists have been used for the absolute reverse -- the shielding of the democratic process from the people, and the silencing of the people in their criticism of MPs/MLAs and the democratic process as a whole. In post-Independence India, arguments have been made for 'privileges' to be abolished. At the very least, they should be codified, as has been repeatedly contended. This whole area is literally a maze of undefined powers and punishments, which is itself a clear infringement of the Rule of Law, argue Desai and Gonsalves, coming in clearly from a freedom-of-the-press perspective. At present, there are three main ways in which a writer can run into trouble with a legislature: (i) by publishing statements or comments which undermine the dignity of the House, or the confidence of people in the legislature (unfortunately, there is no exhaustive definition of comments which would fall under this umbrella offence); (ii) by infringing rules of publication of the legislature proceedings; and (iii) by infringing of the rules of procedure of a House. Goa has itself had a long tryst with privileges cases, both as a union territory and post-Statehood. And the media has not been the only target of such cases. For instance, the late Babu Naik sought to move a breach of privilege and contempt of the house case against the then CM Dayanand Bandodkar for not attending the Assembly on grounds of being ill but addressing a gathering the same day in the 1960s. A similar case came up in 1991, when MGP MLAs Sirsat and Mohan Amshekar alleged breach of privilege against Legislative Affairs Minister Luizinho Faleiro for being absent with members of the ruling party during a discussion. Both these complaints against ruling party members were disallowed. Breach of privilege cases have been sought to be raised on grounds of arrest of MLAs (by Jack de Sequeira in 1974 and Farrel Furtado in 1992), or against the delay in intimating the arrest of then MLA J B Rao in 1974. Alleged assault cases (on Dilkush Desai, by some legislators against others in those stormy instability-fuelled politicking days of the 1990s, and by Radharao Gracias against Superintendent of Police Santoba Desai during the Konkan Railway realignment campaign) also lead to breach of privilege complaints. Luizinho Faleiro, in 1989, raised a breach of privilege against senior officials and Cabinet ministers for 'delay in obtaining assent to a Bill.' There were other unusual cases too. In 1980, ramponkar leader Matanhy Saldanha -- himself to later become an MLA -- sent a telegram to legislators. This telegram read: Traditional fishermen of Goa shall not tolerate any further delay in passing Marine Regulation Bill 1980. We don't need select committees. Traditional fishermen watching you carefully. Masses cannot always be fooled. A report from the then Legislature Secretary M M Naik quoted a 1780 House of Commons resolution, which said it was gross breach of privilege for anyone to try to compel members by force to declare themselves in favour or against any proposition then pending or expected to be brought before the House. Somehow the Select Committee decided later that it was better to ignore the telegram and treat it as undeserving of consideration.
[Goanet-News] Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - KONKANI ADAGES (for more see link at end) Baile-k gutth sangonaka, rai-ak fott marinaka, choganchem utor moddinaka Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group (of friends) Ballonterache chottke (or sutke), mornnanche attevitte Pangs of childbirth and death are quite alike Bandhum ieta tondd doriachem, punn bandhum nuzo vaitt uloitoleachem You can tie the mouth of the sea but you can't shut the mouth of a foul talker. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
[Goanet] The Panchayati Raj amendments, Activists, and Public participation
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Opening up or Ushering in? :The Panchayati Raj amendments, Activists, and Public participation (First published in the Gomantak Times, 12 Sug 2009) Over the 25th and the 26th of July I was in Pondicherry, to participate in a workshop around the theme of public consultation and citizen participation in urban governancehttp://www.ifpindia.org/Opening-Up-or-Ushering-In,708.html. ‘Opening Up or Ushering In’ was the rather enigmatic name for the workshop that mystified most of the participants. It was only later that we got an inkling into this framing of the workshop. Given that public consultation and citizen participation that have become rather fashionable catchwords; are these processes being used to open up spaces for citizens to participate in the articulation of plans and projects in their cities and neighbourhoods, or usher in technocrats and their consultancies under the guise of public consultation and participation? You have to admit with me that the organizers were more than clever in their framing of the workshop title, as well as placing on the agenda, an interesting issue for debate. I would like to reflect on this idea within the Goan context, returning in the process, to a theme that I have not taken up for some time, that of the frustrated moment of the Goan revolution. What has not ceased to amaze is the manner in which, despite constantly brandishing the issue of public participation and decentralization, most of the groups in the fray have been singularly unable to actually realize the objective. All of this despite the fact that the GBA, at that time the more powerful among these groups, held the trumps at a crucial moment in the struggle. Trying to understand why they failed to seize the moment, two options emerged. One, because of the conviction by some of the more prominent Margao activists that decentralization was a bad thing, the average citizen would make a mess of the powers they were given. The second, because for the architects and urban planners involved in the movement, participation and consultation began and ended when they were ushered into the planning process. In their well-intentioned estimation, this was also participation and consultation, so at least they were taking the process somewhere. As the recent ‘stepping down’ of Edgar Rebeiro has shown us, this assumption was not just terribly naïve, but eventually impotent as well. Participation is not achieved until the entire body of citizenry is enabled to participate in planning. The question that needs to be seriously posed is if this association with the State executive, right from the time the GBA joined the Task Force, an association entirely outside of a legal process, was useful or not. The reason for distinguishing between the two reasons stated above, is because I would like to distinguish between a conscious option to prevent genuine and large-scale participation (in the first case), and a misunderstanding as to what participation and consultation actually means. In the second case, the error is possibly unconscious, the result of a blinkered vision engendered by one’s professional training. It is a different matter that this professional training is rooted in the same fear of the ‘ignorant masses’ held by our Margao activists. When imbibed through education however, it gets internalized unconsciously. That these professionals belong to a class that in any case has a tendency against mass participation and towards a surprisingly firm belief in its own capacities does not help them in thinking out these biases that are educated into them. To be sure, these biases have a longer history, as displayed in the history of the anti-colonial struggle in British-India. The early forms of the ‘national struggle’, in particular the demands of the liberals and Swarajists, was not for ‘freedom’. Whenever this potentially explosive term was used, it was in fact rather ambivalently articulated. Their aspiration was in fact for a greater ‘share’ in the governance of the country, as reflected in the demands for greater opportunities in participation in central and provincial legislatures and executive councils. There was no contemplation of universal participation for all Indians, the attempt was to only share the pie of governance with the white man. It was only later, in the event of the failed expectations of the Indian National Congress on most offers of constitutional ‘reforms’ that the discourse and practice got radicalized to lead to the situation of a robust non-cooperation against the British Raj. Popular support was garnered through the eventually unrealized promise to the unwashed masses of
[Goanet] Migrant housing projects
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Please see letter below; particularly for those Overseas Goans with blindfolds; who are ignoring the realities in Goa!! ** *http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=25859cid=13* ** *Migrant housing projects Rosario D’Costa, Varca *The government is confusing the people with the definition of mega housing projects. Keep aside the terminology; Goans are rightly opposing housing projects ranging anywhere between 10 and 50 housing units and more, depending on the situation. This opposition is for the simple reason that the government cannot meet the needs of existing Goans in terms of waste management, traffic management, water supply, electricity, drainage, health, security, employment, price rise, impacts of migration, environmental protection, protection of our beautiful villages, etc. These small or big housing projects are only increasing these problems. These housing facilities, being out of reach for a majority of Goans, are a perfect invitation for migrants. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
[Goanet] Giloy (Tinospora cordifolia -Wild) is Amrita- Most effective repellent in Swine-Flu Outbreak !!
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Giloy (Tinospora cordifolia -Wild) is Amrita- Most effective repellent in Swine-Flu Outbreak !! Giloy is one of the most useful ayurvedic herb which acts as tonic and aphrodisiac, it is also an antihelminthic, anti-arthritic, anti-periodic, anti-pyretic, blood purifier, cardiac, carminative, digestive, diuretic an expectorant, stomachic, rejuvenating, appetizing and anti-inflammatory, In Ayurvedic literature Giloy is described as Amrita because of its innumerable medicinal properties and it is also said to increase the lifespan of humans by preventing them from many chronic diseases. Giloy is one of the most useful ayurvedic herb which acts as tonic and aphrodisiac, it is also an antihelminthic, anti-arthritic, anti-periodic, anti-pyretic, blood purifier, cardiac, carminative, digestive, diuretic an expectorant, stomachic, rejuvenating, appetizing and anti-inflammatory. Starch from the roots of Giloy as well as from its stems can be used for chronic diarrhoea and dysentery. The juice of the fresh plant is diuretic and is used in gonorrhea. It is also useful for curing chronic fevers, gouts, vomiting, cardiac debility, skin diseases, leprosy, anemia, cough, asthma, jaundice, seminal weakness, uropathy and splenopathy. Tinospora cordifolia (Wild) , which is commonly known as Giloy or Gudachia. It belongs to the family of Menispermaceae and is a vigorous climber. Its English name is Gulancha Tinospora. There are about 40 species of Giloy which are found throughout the world, comprising parts of Africa, Southern Eastern Asia, and Australia. Out of 40 species only 4 species have been found in India. These consist of : (i) Tinospora cardifolia; (ii) T. sinensis; (iii) T. malabarica; and (iv) T. tomentosa. T. cardifolia is, however, mainly found in the tropical and subtropical regions of India ascending an altitude of 300 m to 1200 m above mean sea level. Contrary to this, T. malabarica grows up to 1300 m above mean sea level. Both these species are found in association with each other in the warmer and mainly valley areas of Uttarakhand. In fact, T. cordifolia is an indigenous plant species belonging to the tropical areas of India, Myanmar and Sri Lanka. It is an important herb used in traditional Ayurvedic medicine. Tinospora Cordifolia, Guduchi, Giloy Famous Yoga Guru and Herbal Specialist Swami Baba Ramdeo said that Swine is cause of lack of resistant power of our bodies. He given some tips for save from swine flu. He told that every body should increase his resistant power . Take GILOY (AMTA)'s one foot long branch and seven leaf of TULSI and mix it and collect juice of this mixture in a pot . Now boil this juice and drink it. This herbal juice increases our body resistant up to three times. By which we can save from H1N1 Flu. Nilgiri oil Use Nilgiri Oil drops on handkerchiefs and masks as one of the preventive measures against swine flu - (N I V) National Institute of Virology(India). Fennel Seeds Drinking a decoction made of fennel seeds soaked in warm water first thing in the morning could prevent you from catching swine flu says a study published in a Chinese medical research magazine. Medicinal uses of Tinospora cordifolia (Wild): . Skin diseases: Juice taken with neem, haldi and amla is very effective. . Piles: Juice of Tinospora with butter milk is useful. . Breast milk: Decoction of the stem is given to improve the quality of breast milk. . Toxins: It is considered a best herb for clearing microcirculatory system. Its juice is very effective in removing both exogenous and endogenous toxins. It clears out the brain toxin that inhibits mental function. . Asthma: The root and bark with whey is used in the treatment of respiratory troubles particularly in asthma. . Diabetes: Juice is taken in high quantities. . Excessive bleeding during menstruation, bleeding after abortion or delivery: Stem, leaves and roots can be used. About 5 g each of leaves and roots are crushed together to extract the juice. Consume 2 cup of this juice for a few days after diluting it with water (2 to 3 ml in half a cup of water) till the condition improve. . Malaria and other fever : Decoction of the stem with pipli (Piper longum) and honey is taken. . Indigestion: The juice with honey or the paste of leaves can be given with butter milk. . Conjuctivitis and cataract : In some parts of India the juice is applied inside the eyes. Giloy Dosage . Powder 1-2 gm. up to maximum 5 gm. . Decoction 50-100 ml . Extract 1-2 ml Giloy is a large extensively spreading, glabrous, perennial, deciduous climber having succulent stems and corky dotted bark with grey-brown or creamy-white color. The leaves are simple,
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Curca bridge (New and Old)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - If those plants are not removed and killed (see first picture), the roots will get in between the joints, loosen the laterite stones, and the whole thing will come down. If this action is not taken soon, I will give it 3 years before the bridge comes tumbling down - perhaps this is what the authorities want, since a new one has been built, hopefully on the upside of the water-flow? - Original Message From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 8:22:49 AM Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Curca bridge (New and Old) Talking Photos: Curca bridge (New and Old) Taken from the new bridge http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/3760534741/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/3760534145/sizes/l/ old Curca bridge approach (towards bambolim/Merces) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/3761337718/sizes/l/ __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
[Goanet] It's showtime for secularism (Herald)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Herald, Panjim, 13 Aug 2009 Editorial It’s showtime for secularism The Hindu Janajagruti Samiti (HJS) is back to its usual tricks. It has once more targeted its favourite whipping boy, noted painter M F Husain. HJS convenor Jayesh Thali on Tuesday demanded that M F Husain’s painting titled ‘Standing Buddha’, on display at the state museum, should be removed. Herald carried a photograph of the oil painting in its yesterday’s edition. It shows a white bull against a vividly coloured backdrop. There is nothing even remotely objectionable about the painting. Jayesh Thali admits this. He said that he had no basic objection to this particular painting. But, he says, his outfit is determined to prevent Husain’s art from being displayed publicly throughout India. He has threatened that the HJS would be “forced to agitate” if the painting was not removed from public display Goa Museum Director Radha Bhave refused to take any decision, and said that she will meet ‘higher officials’ first. So now Chief Minister Digambar Kamat – who holds the portfolio of Art and Culture and is therefore the ‘highest’ official – must decide whether he will order the removal of an admittedly unobjectionable painting and allow a Hindu fundamentalist organisation to openly pursue an admittedly political agenda, or whether he will stand up for the rule of law and the avowedly secular policy of his government and party. Mr Thali says that M F Husain has hurt the religious feelings and national sentiments of millions of Hindus and Indians earlier, and that his paintings of Hindu deities and ‘Bharat Mata’ in the nude were thoroughly obscene and in bad taste. Over 1,600 criminal cases were filed all over India against Husain for ‘obscenity’ and ‘hurting religious sentiments’. Hundreds of them were filed in Goa, mainly by HJS and Sanatan Sanstha activists. The Supreme Court asked the Delhi High Court to hear them. There were three main grounds for the complaints against Husain: ‘Obscenity’ (Sec 292 and 294), ‘causing offence to religious sensibilities’ (Sec 295 and 298), and ‘creating ill-will among communities on religious grounds’ (Sec 153), all under the Indian Penal Code (IPC). On 8 May 2008, Justice Sanjay Kishan Kaul delivered a reasoned judgment rejecting all three grounds and quashing all criminal charges against Husain. “There are many such pictures, paintings, and sculptures, and some of them are in temples also,” the Court said. All the HJS allegations against Husain have already been examined and rejected by the Delhi High Court. Besides, M F Husain has himself long ago apologised in writing for any offence he may have unwittingly caused through his work. He has specifically clarified that the painting most vehemently objected to by the HJS and its ilk had never been titled by him as ‘Bharat Mata’. It does seem that it is not Husain but the HJS that is ‘creating ill-will among communities on religious grounds’ by constantly bringing up non-issues like this that have long ago been settled, both by the courts and by the person in the centre of the storm. Especially so when they themselves admit that the painting they want removed is not objectionable. The HJS complains that the Indian government was quick to ban Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses and Hollywood film The da Vinci Code (not true), but takes Hindus for granted. They resent the amount of attention Muslims have commanded when they have been offended by images (like the Danish cartoon) that they consider blasphemous – a concept alien to Hinduism. What do they want really? That Hinduism should be more like Islam and Christianity? We are not at all sure that the majority of Hindus would agree with this. But that is another issue. The point is that the Husain painting in the state museum is not objectionable – even the HJS says so. Therefore, it should under no circumstances be removed. The government of Goa is not here to advance the political agendas of fundamentalist organisations, no matter which religion’s cause they peddle. The museum should get the security it requires. Or, if it decides to succumb to the HJS’s irrational demand, the Digambar Kamat government should stop calling itself secular. -- Whatever it is, I'm against it -- Groucho Marx
[Goanet] Quo Vadis, Speaker Sir?
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Quo Vadis, Speaker Sir? Does anyone know what is happening? By Cecil Pinto Speaker Sir, in 399 BC when Socrates was on trial he said to the jury, 'If you offered to let me off this time on condition I am not any longer to speak my mind, I should say to you, Men of Athens, I shall obey the Gods rather than you.' Socrates accepted the death sentence rather than compromise his freedom of speech. Speaker Sir, on July 23rd we celebrated the Birth Anniversary of Lokmanya Tilak. Honourable Chief Minister spoke at one event urging the press to be the true Fourth Pillar of democracy. Elsewhere on the same day Honourable Leader of Opposition told the press to be like Lord Krishna and not to succumb to pressures from the Government. Speaker Sir, these very two same Members of your August house sat silent when a few days later the same Freedom of Speech and Expression, that Tilak strove to protect, was under attack. Speaker Sir, I am hereby tabling a question, or motion, or whatever the correct term is. I am not very familiar with Parliamentary Language but am trying my best. Speaker Sir, why did you threaten imprisonment to two individuals, Samir Kelekar and Peter Fernandes, who had spoken their mind about what's going on in the just concluded Assembly session? In an earlier instance you hade made similar threats to two publications that had falsely quoted Honourable MLA Agnelo Fernandes' statement regarding 'pimps and drug dealers'. At that time, Speaker Sir, I believe you were fully justified in asking them to apologise. To intentionally misquote is to make mischief. But what was the provocation this time around? From what we saw in the live telecast, Speaker Sir, Honourable MLA Dayanand Narvekar took great offense to the Assembly session being described as a 'comedy show' and as a 'tiatr'. Subsequently many letters to the editor and signed petitions have agreed with that characterization. Does that mean you are going to imprison all these other people too, Speaker Sir? I believe that learned advocate MLA Narvekar must be using the archaic House Privileges clause that gives members certain immunity from being hauled to court or criticised by the public for what they say in the Assembly. Fair enough, Speaker Sir, that clause, a remnant from colonial times was introduced to give members a certain liberty to express themselves openly without the pressure of being constantly under surveillance, especially by the King. But Speaker Sir, those archaic laws have to be revisited and revised in this 21st century. Else we might as well go back to having Assembly sessions behind closed doors. You allow press and the public, including young impressionable students, to attend the Assembly sessions. You beam your discussions and contradictions live into my living room via satellite TV. And then you tell me I cannot comment on what was discussed? Speaker Sir, I can criticize a High Court judgment, but not the judge. Similarly I should be able to criticize a decision of the Assembly if not the members themselves. If you take contempt proceedings to their fullest possibility does that mean I cannot criticize decisions which are obviously and inherently stupid? Like a bridge from Dona Paula to Vasco? Like a Sports City in an area where fruit bearing trees and cultivated fields exist? Like demands for forest land to dump mining rejects? I mean no disrespect to the House or to your Chair, but is this how democracy works in Goa, Speaker Sir? As for comparisons with 'tiatr' I don't see why anyone should get flustered. Where else can you see treachery, backstabbing, melodrama, love-hate relationships, lies, damned lies and statistics in real life and real time? And yes comedy, Speaker Sir. We saw it live on TV for several days. Hem zallam kitem? or What is this nonsense happening? was earlier a question originating from the opposition benches. But in this session the treasury benches were constantly asking the same question of their own ministers. What is happening, Speaker Sir? Where are we going? Quo vadis? Does anyone know? Who authorized the floating casinos? Which agencies granted them what licences? What do they do with their garbage? Which agency is to check on what? Is it a problem to be dealt with by the Corporation of Panjim or the Tourism Ministry or Environment Ministry or Inland Waterways? Konn zanna, Speaker Sir? Does anyone at all know what is happening? Speaker Sir, I know you are not obliged to answer my questions. But Speaker Sir, I am merely articulating the questions that Goa's citizens are asking. This
Re: [Goanet] Mario Menezes at Khell Tiatr Festival created a hugehungama
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Tony, Yes Mario was within his rights but at the same time...Joe does not use the videos for commercial purposes unlike the newspapers...even then his only requests to the newspapers is to give him credit...so why cant the news papers do that? The Tiatr video trailors that Joe puts on internet is only to gain the tiatrist extra publicity for their Tiatrs. There are many like me in the gulf who are not aware of these tiatrs going on in Goa, so when we visit Goa we surely make it a point to watch these tiatrs and get to know the names of Tiatrist acting..even though some of the directors dont even introduce the new tiatrist on Stage. Even the VCD pics that he puts on the net helps them to boost up their sales. Keep up the good work Joe. Dev borem Korum Eddie Verdes KSA/Chinchinim - Original Message - From: Anthony M Barreto To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mario Menezes at Khell Tiatr Festival created a hugehungama Last month June 2009, besides the fixed BSNL monthly charges Rs.1350, it also cost me Rs.450 more. This is because I exceeded the permissable monthly usage limit i.e. 5GB and anything above that charged @ 80paise per MB --- Are Joegoauk do you know what and how much it takes to write, direct, stage a tiatr? Did some tiatrists rub you wrong? You say Mario created a huge hungama. Forget huge, what hungama are you talking about? You scream your lungs out when Herald uses a picture you clicked. Here it is video shooting. He was certainly within his rights in what he did. Don't blow your balloon to much lest it burst. Regards Tony Martin
[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY Live performance of the Brazilian Band- ACURI a combined celebration
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - 000 This is to inform you of Celebration of Independence Day 15th August 09 with the Live performance of the Brazilian Band- ACURI - 8pm at Gonsalves Mansion. We would liket of combine this celebration with that of World Goa Day--- back in the same old well appreciated set up and style at Gonsalves Mansion when everyone met socially and comfortably all at extreme ease. Our idea is to raise funds for the Brasil Futbol Academia.We are delighted to mention that we are organizing the Brazilian Jazz evening in aid of the Brasil Futbol Academia of which our wellknown Dempo Footballer Beto is very much part of, and will be addressing the Press Conference which will be held today at 6pm. Mr. Savio Messias of the Goa Football Association is assisting us in raising funds and will also be addressing the press Conference. The media is well informed and are looking forward to this great event- which is aiming at helping our Goan Footballers. Well establised people across the Globe have been invited to the show and they have been requested to send in their Donations towards this fund for our aspiring Goan Footballers. The Brazilian Jazz band Acuri is set to perform live at Gonsalves Mansion, the Home of Jazz in India, at Campal. As said earlier, the concert will be held on August 15th in aid of Brasil Futebol Academia (BFA), Goa. As is usual with us, all of us at Heritage Jazz are delighted that we can do our bit for the community, and we can do it since the Academia trains our local Goan boys to become great footballers. The organization BFA being all about football that our Goans support in a big way. This event hence also gives a great platform to take this message forward to football loving Goans across the world. log into our website www.heritagejazz.comfor further details. We look forward to your assosiation with us. Our CEO Mr. Armando Gonsalves will speak to soon to take this further. Kindly open the attachment.. Thanking you, Admin Head-Marissa Monteiro. CONTACT US -9922023293 Gonsalves Mansion, Campal,Panjim, Goa 403 001 India
[Goanet] Education in neo colonial Goa
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Post 61 saw mass education, that meant that there were hundred of students dumped in a class. For example when I studied at SS Dempo there were about 200 students in one class. One wonders what sort of standard could achieved with these high number of students. The idea of the neo colonialists was yeah we made it - education for everybody- but abysmally crap. BC
[Goanet] Touch me if you can!!!!
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - To prove who is mightier PWD minister or Security Guards, PWD minster assaulted three Security Guards and thereafter made them kneel down for 10 minutes at the site of highly sensitive restricted Selaulim Dam on 11/8/09 evening for not allowing his family members and friends to enter the restricted area. What is more surprising is that when family members were restricted from entering dam area the concerned PWD minister was Sanguem from where he came rushing to do shameful act. Today one local daily reported that after that heavy assault incident PWD minister had dialed Water resources minister to suspend those three security guards immediately!!!. Mr. PWD Minister although your uncouthness and your background reality are known to Aam Admi you have now proved that Goa's CM is equally spineless!!... Wah re wah Kangress Minister Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Folks, I have now received emails from 25 people in total to include their names on the comedy show petition letter. Appended below is the final draft of the letter that will hopefully appear in Herald. There was a suggestion to include our professions. But I could not do it because I did not know the profession of most people on the list, and I did not want to do a half-baked job. Cheers, Santosh LETTER Dear Sir, I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against him and Peter Fernandes, two private citizens, for speaking their mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir and Peter to defend my right to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours. I ask all Goans to sign on with us in this symbolic stand to affirm the principle that in a free democracy ordinary citizens, individually and collectively, are more powerful than any branch of their government or any elected representative that serves at their pleasure. Sincerely, Alfred de Tavares, Sweden Anand Virgincar, U.K. Augusto Pinto, India Blasio Fernandes, U.A.E. Cecil Pinto, India Cornel Da Costa, U.K. Diana Pinto, India Eddie Fernandes, U.K. Gabe Menezes, U.K. Gabriel de Figueiredo, Australia George Pinto, U.S.A. Ignatius Fernandes, U.K. Kevin Fernandes, U.A.E. Louise Fernandes, U.A.E. Marlon Menezes, U.S.A. Marshall Mendonza, India Mervyn Lobo, Canada Sandeep Heble, India Santosh Helekar, U.S.A. Selma Carvalho, U.K. Shrikant Barve, India Uday Barad, India Venantius Pinto, U.S.A. Vinay Natekar, Kuwait Wendell Rodricks, India
[Goanet] Talking Photos: 'Morte' at Velsao
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Morte Actually it is 'Boa Morte' but we called it just ‘Morte’ Velsaocars would simply say (invite) ‘faleam amger Mortik eiyat’ One Velsaocar would ask the other Velsaokar ‘Mortik vochon eilo?’ In other words, it is like saying ‘ umiank vochon eilo?’ (UMO = Kissing of the statue) At Velsao, every year, in this month, there is a 3 day feast 1st day 13th August Morte (Our Lady of Good Death) 2nd day 14th August ‘Saibinn sorgar Voita’ (Assumption) 3rd day 15th August is the Main Feast Day (O/L descends) As a kid, I remember attending Velsao Church on all the above three days. We came to the church on foot, I even remember walking the railways tracks which is passing about 300 metere behind the church (see pic below) It was long time that I have been to ‘Morte’ Today, we made it. And I am straight back here infront of my PC to share my memories /pics with you. Don’t know if anywhere else this practice is followed. Life size O/L shown in a sort of coffin/casket surround by Apostles By 5pm today, the entire casket is seen decorated/covered with ‘Zayo’ by the devotees. ‘Zayo’ (jasmine flowers?) are also available for sale at the church premises Ok. Let’s see the pic which are taken today around 3.30pm In side the Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3816801235/sizes/l/ Our Lady of Good Death (Boa Morte) surrounded by apostles (right side) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3816802139/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3817612108/sizes/l/ Left Side http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3817612984/sizes/l/ from the front http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3816802427/sizes/l/ close-up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3817614212/sizes/l/ next, i.e. on the 14th August.. (pics from archive) The same place will have this standing O/L where it will be manually raised to heaven. A mini heaven is erected see pic O/L of Assumption http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2761988593/sizes/l/ Mini heaven http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2761989775/ Top (close-up) Bap, Putr, Ispisant, this is where the O/L seen on 14 Aug from 3pm till next day 10pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2761989089/ On the 15th August, the O/L is brought down back and kept for public veneration Velsao Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2762834046/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2762833876/sizes/l/ Railway tracks (new) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3817592852/sizes/l/ Happy Feast to all Velsaokars joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] The Panchayati Raj amendments, Activists, and Public participation
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - What an excellent article by Jason. Just two things from a historical perspective, or should I say my own:-) The early hope of just participative governance in India might have had more to do with the British than the Indian, because for a long time, that is what the British had been promising the natives across their colonial empire, more specifically in Africa, where in anycase the vast majority of White settlers were demanding autonomy from the Colonial offices. I do believe the Margao activists have got in right in that the vast majority of the population is not prepared for the sort of consulative process that is required to take Goa ahead as a state, but not particularly because they are uninformed moreso because they are easily manipulated by vested interests. I've seen this happen first hand at the grand gram (masala) sabha meetings and it has left a bitter taste in my mouth as far as panchayats per se are concerned. So how one takes the state forward is anyone's guess at this point in time. best, selma --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Jason Keith Fernandes jason.k.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jason Keith Fernandes jason.k.fernan...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] The Panchayati Raj amendments, Activists, and Public participation To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 12:26 AM -
Re: [Goanet] Kudos for JC's views on the health care debate
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - To begin with, I commend Jose Colaco for giving us some very thoughtful, balanced and constructive comments about the US health care system, even though he could not resist taking a cheap shot at the Right. It shows what he is capable of, something we don't see often enough. Gabe Menezes wrote: Why would anyone want change in the Health Care programme, if one's own family members benefit from the status quo? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:23:05 -0400 From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com It all depends upon what you mean by benefit from the status quo. Mario observes: I think JC may have missed the fact that Gabe thought he was taking a dig at me, but as usual, proved that he has no clue about the raging debate about socialized health care versus the American system, even though he lives in a country that just did this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5955840/Patients-forced-to-live-in-agony-after-NHS-refuses-to-pay-for-painkilling-injections.html JC wrote: Allow me to suggest that the following are the beneficiaries from the status quo. - in No particular order 7: Those who are covered by existing Government run health-schemes. Mario asks: JC, Though I am covered by Medicare, you must be aware that I paid for this privilege throughout my working life in the US through payroll deductions, and still have to pay a monthly premium. In addition, I have had to buy supplemental insurance to cover what Medicare does not. Secondly, Medicare is projected to run out of money by 2017 because of the typical inefficiencies of a government run program. The other government run programs, Medicaid and the VA are in similar dire financial straits. This is not a good sign for expanding these models nationwide. Thus, in spite of the classic Goan crabby and uninformed insinuations of Marlon, Gilbert and Gabe, I am not getting any special benefit from the status quo that I have not and am not paying for, while the system itself is in imminent danger of financial collapse. JC wrote: Allow me to say this: No Govt run scheme ...runs as optimally as it should. Mario responds: I agree. No government business scheme CAN run optimally over time, because decisions are made on political grounds and not financial and economic grounds and there is no personal incentive, responsibility or accountability for those managing the system. As a classic example, Franklin Raines who was one of the bureaucrats at the heart of the financial crisis as the CEO of Fannie Mae, paid himself bonuses of some $90 million, was then found to have cooked the books to inflate his bonuses, was forced to resign and made to return some $40 million, and just moved on with the balance of $50 million. Nice deal, hanh?! JC wrote: A good example is UK, another is Canada. While both these systems cover most of the people, most of the time - huge amounts of funds are wasted. For the amount of taxes which go into health care in the UK and Canada - a patient should have had zero wait time. Mario responds: Absolutely correct. I hope your cronies in Canada and Blighty are listening. JC wrote: Presently, in the US there is a two-tier health care system for those who can afford it and those who cannot. And yet, IF ...one had cut the skim from the cost of private health care - one would have had enough of funds to cover everybody. Mario responds: Correctomundo, AGAIN. Nice going, JC. Bravo! There are some 300 million Americans. The left wingers claim that 47 million are uninsured. Once you adjust this for illegal aliens, legal aliens who are not citizens, people who earn over $75,000 a year but have chosen not to buy health insurance, etc. the core group that really need help is around 12 to 15 million. Rather than destroy a system which has superior medical technology and redundant equipment so that no one has to wait for a test or a procedure, a system that covers over 90% of Americans, 70% of whom say they are happy with the health insurance they have, it may make more sense for the government to simply buy private insurance for these 12 to 15 million people and reform the excesses in the current system with tort reform, insurance reform and other administrative procedures. http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649 The good news is that President Obama has scrapped his long term desire to impose a single payer system and has specifically rejected the Canadian model as unworkable in the US, now saying we need to come up with a unique American solution. The bad news is that he doesn't seem to have a clue as to what his far left wing allies in Congress have put into their initial
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Dear Santosh, I really fear that greater damage has already been done by the Speaker than is as yet comprehended by the citizens at large. Apparently papers are refusing the carry risque articles for fear of repercussions. I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of centuries. best, selma --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Comedy show To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:26 AM -
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism when it mentions this free democratic country of ours. Many of the petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens. Substituting free India would solve the problem. I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their right to express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a problem with the following contentions: a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual legislators who comprise it who are jokers. b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than government or elected representatives. The only time they have the power is when electing them with the expectation that they will uphold the constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation - none of which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of. While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time for the Varca comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the security detail in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post. Roland. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Santosh Helekarchimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Folks, I have now received emails from 25 people in total to include their names on the comedy show petition letter. Appended below is the final draft of the letter that will hopefully appear in Herald. There was a suggestion to include our professions. But I could not do it because I did not know the profession of most people on the list, and I did not want to do a half-baked job. Cheers, Santosh LETTER Dear Sir, I agree with Samir Kelekar that the Goa Vidhan Sabha is a comedy show. The threat of imprisonment issued from its chair and benches against him and Peter Fernandes, two private citizens, for speaking their mind in public, just proved this fact. I am willing to spend time in prison with Samir and Peter to defend my right to freely express this opinion of mine in this free democratic country of ours. I ask all Goans to sign on with us in this symbolic stand to affirm the principle that in a free democracy ordinary citizens, individually and collectively, are more powerful than any branch of their government or any elected representative that serves at their pleasure. Sincerely, Alfred de Tavares, Sweden Anand Virgincar, U.K. Augusto Pinto, India Blasio Fernandes, U.A.E. Cecil Pinto, India Cornel Da Costa, U.K. Diana Pinto, India Eddie Fernandes, U.K. Gabe Menezes, U.K. Gabriel de Figueiredo, Australia George Pinto, U.S.A. Ignatius Fernandes, U.K. Kevin Fernandes, U.A.E. Louise Fernandes, U.A.E. Marlon Menezes, U.S.A. Marshall Mendonza, India Mervyn Lobo, Canada Sandeep Heble, India Santosh Helekar, U.S.A. Selma Carvalho, U.K. Shrikant Barve, India Uday Barad, India Venantius Pinto, U.S.A. Vinay Natekar, Kuwait Wendell Rodricks, India -- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
Re: [Goanet] Navhind Times Editorial
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Bro Fred, I have spoken an obvious truth many simply refuse to accept. I know your love for some of the people running the NGOs. Imagination is the fountainhead of all creativity, inventions and discoveries. Let it run wild. Tony Martin Brother Tony, Nice to have you back on Goanet, and that too with a bang! While I respect your logic and your right to your point of view... I couldn't help wondering if point you make below is, in any way, connected with the run-in you had with Ms. Margaret Mascarenhas over some completely different point some while ago. Please convince me that my imagination is working overtime, and I'll sleep peacefully :-) FN 2009/8/12 Anthony M Barreto tonymarti...@yahoo.com: The editorial in the August 12th edition of the NT is a power packed gem harder than diamond. 'I think' only those who live sheltered behind the illusory facade of self-seeking lies will find it objectionable. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Quo Vadis, Speaker Sir? (Cecil Pinto)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Satyameva Jayate is our country’s national motto, “Truth alone prevails.” Good one Cecil Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Quo Vadis, Speaker Sir?
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Quo Vadis, Speaker Sir? Does anyone know what is happening? By Cecil Pinto My dear Cecil, May I say how much I enjoyed reading your very well written article on this rather 'difficult' topic? I found it to be fair, balanced and very well reasoned. Well done, Cecil. May more such works of art flow from your keyboard. jc
[Goanet] Tuesday Tantrums from Gomantak Times
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - from http://tuesdaytantrum.blogspot.com (Gomantak Times) Tuesday Tantrums - By Ashley do Rosario Tuesday, August 11, 2009 One (Tamba) flu over the cuckoo’s (Vishwajeet) nest! Just the other day, I bumped into my friend Dr Porobo, today retired but a decade ago the man who was in the hot seat when malaria was as big a headline as swine flu is today. And coincidentally, Porobo was in a strikingly similar predicament as Dr Rajendra Tamba, until a week ago the State's nodal officer for swine flu, was. Both were not only battling an epidemic, they were also with their backs to a wall called Vishwajeet Rane. Only difference was that Rane junior was then an 'unknown quantity' and meddled in affairs of the state in an 'extra-constitutional' avataar as the 'CM's son' but today, he is the health minister, and his writ runs in the health ministry. Of course there's another little difference, Tamba's head rolled, Porobo's didn't. In the fight that he led against malaria in the mid-1990s, Porobo, like Tamba in the current battle against swine flu, was saddled with a collosal task and just a few dimes, so to say, to handle it with. And in the midst of his marathon duel with malaria, came this fiat from the 'CM's son' to employ that pesky pesticide called 'deltamethrine' to eliminate the mosquito, apparently emanating from Rane Jr's not-so-secret affection for Pharma majors. Delthamethrine was being produced and marketed by Hoechst Russel Marion. Deltamethrine would have been ordered by the tonnes if Porobo was a mere babu. But the doctor in him just didn't permit him to obey the fiat because the Union health ministry had specifically barred its use so early in the fight against malaria fearing that resistance developed by the mosquito to it would render this last weapon in its armoury impotent sooner than wanted. So, Porobo dashed off to the cabin of another doctor, Wilfred de Souza, who incidentally happened to be DyCM and also the health minister. Together, the two doctors cooked Piqueno's goose. In the end, Porobo survived and so did Deltamethrine, to be used to save another day against malaria. Such was not the luck of Dr Tamba. Not one, who calls himself a 'doctor' in the Directorate of Health Services gathered the wits to back him and so the only epidemiologist in its ranks is no longer the state's epidemiologist. But time I feel will heal, and Tamba will live another day in the Health Services, to have his last laugh. FOOTNOTE: Dayanand Narvekar, who is presently roaring like a tiger merely mewed like its domestic cousin, then. Perhaps to please Rane junior who seemed to have all his father's ears, Daya released some one-odd million rupees from his Urban Development ministry for then PMC-now-CCP to buy three tonnes of Deltamethrine. It's another matter that Panjim's citizen's kicked the PMC in its butt and the stuff rotted in its godowns, used only at the then Ranes-occupied CM's official bungalow and a military barracks at Altinho! Who says politicians always win? It was meant to be a show to demonstrate the villagers' united might. And thanks to the alertness of the villagers presence of mind, it remained thus despite an attempt to give it a political twist and turn the tide against present Tivim MLA, Nilkanth Halarnkar. It was on Sunday that villagers gathered to voice, unitedly, their opposition to the plans of Vedanta-owned Sesa Goa Ltd to revive a pre-Liberation mine at Nadora-Pirna. President of the Pirna-Nadora Nagrik Kruti Samiti, Yoganand Gawas, was leading the villagers with slogans against Sesa Goa and the government. To drive home his point that the government was pitted against the villagers, Gawas chided the local 'amdar' (Nilkanth) for not taking up the issue in the recently concluded assembly session. Thankfully, the villagers had their heads on their shoulders and the cat was soon out of the bag. Some from among the audience called his bluff and pointed out that the whole process of reviving the mine had began in 2001, when Sadanand Shet Tanavade of the BJP was the local 'amdar'. Why do you not question him for all his inaction?, shouted out one villager. Tanavade, who was also amidst the gathering, had this 'I-have-an-excuse-ready' look on his face. But fortunately, he was not asked for his comments, Gawas had to abruptly halt his fiery speech and another equally fiery speaker took over. Rent two take one free, Anil style Ferry boats were hotly debated about in the House in the recently concluded, rather long session of the Assembly. And at the crux of the matter was an unusual offer from mining magnate Anil Salgaocar -- a free ferry boat to the government. Anil
[Goanet] Secret Indian currency template compromised : CBI
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Secret-Indian-currency-template-compromised-CBI/articleshow/4890917.cms Just shows the extent to which the rot has gotten in this country. regards, Samir
[Goanet] World Goa Day 2009 @ Bangalore
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Dear E-mail Friends and Family, Pls forward. Pls attend the function in Bangalore, in order to make the programme a huge success. cc: (1)ic Pinto and Louella Sequeira - Wishing you all the best for your efforts in organising World Goa Day in Bangalore. (2) Mariola and Milton Sequeira - Pls attend == eric pinto Subject: World Goa Day 2009 @ Bangalore It is THAT time of the year! A term where the earth is lush green.When the farmer celebrates his 'Konsachem fest' and the 'Divarkars' their famous Bonderam.It is also a time when every Goan all over the world Celebrates his heritage!!! World Goa Day is celebrated the world over, this month. Karnataka Goans Association is hosting the celebrations in Bangalore Date:Saturday, 22nd August, 7.30 p.m. onwards Place: Opus, Palace Road, Bangalore Tickets (Includes Entry and Buffet Dinner, Drinks Extra) Members Rs. 375 Children Rs. 250 Guests Rs. 550 ( Pre -Event) Guests Rs. 600 (Gate Sales) Tickets are available at Opus and with KGA committee members. You may also call the below numbers for tickets Kormangala, BTM and surrounding areas- 9986561853 Frazer Town, Indiranagar and North Bangalore - 9886409352 Tickets are limited, so book early to avoid disappointment. Come Celebrate the Goan in You! Cheers, Louella Sequeira, President Karnataka Goan Association
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: A Question of Privilege? (FN, in Herald)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - A Question of Privilege? Reviewing 'breach of privilege' cases, FREDERICK NORONHA concludes that press and politicians both need to regain lost credibility After the Goa Assembly and the fourth estate crossed swords recently, there have been a number of opinions on what the ideal relationship between press and politicians should be. Some have been critical of the media, while others have interpreted the cautionary messages to the media as an unwelcome form of pressure. The point, however, is not about individual politicians, or certain newspapers alone, but rather about the tradition that has evolved in legislature-media interactions over the years. Both the legislature and the media believe they are acting in the best interest of society. But the relationship between the two can, and does, turn antagonistic sometimes. The whole rationale for the evolution of parliamentary privileges was the protection of democracy against the King, when British democracy was in its infancy (centuries ago), comment Shobha Desai and Colin Gonsalves, in the book 'Freedom of the Press'. They argue: It is clear that many recent privilege motions taken out by various legislatures against journalists have been used for the absolute reverse -- the shielding of the democratic process from the people, and the silencing of the people in their criticism of MPs/MLAs and the democratic process as a whole. In post-Independence India, arguments have been made for 'privileges' to be abolished. At the very least, they should be codified, as has been repeatedly contended. This whole area is literally a maze of undefined powers and punishments, which is itself a clear infringement of the Rule of Law, argue Desai and Gonsalves, coming in clearly from a freedom-of-the-press perspective. At present, there are three main ways in which a writer can run into trouble with a legislature: (i) by publishing statements or comments which undermine the dignity of the House, or the confidence of people in the legislature (unfortunately, there is no exhaustive definition of comments which would fall under this umbrella offence); (ii) by infringing rules of publication of the legislature proceedings; and (iii) by infringing of the rules of procedure of a House. Goa has itself had a long tryst with privileges cases, both as a union territory and post-Statehood. And the media has not been the only target of such cases. For instance, the late Babu Naik sought to move a breach of privilege and contempt of the house case against the then CM Dayanand Bandodkar for not attending the Assembly on grounds of being ill but addressing a gathering the same day in the 1960s. A similar case came up in 1991, when MGP MLAs Sirsat and Mohan Amshekar alleged breach of privilege against Legislative Affairs Minister Luizinho Faleiro for being absent with members of the ruling party during a discussion. Both these complaints against ruling party members were disallowed. Breach of privilege cases have been sought to be raised on grounds of arrest of MLAs (by Jack de Sequeira in 1974 and Farrel Furtado in 1992), or against the delay in intimating the arrest of then MLA J B Rao in 1974. Alleged assault cases (on Dilkush Desai, by some legislators against others in those stormy instability-fuelled politicking days of the 1990s, and by Radharao Gracias against Superintendent of Police Santoba Desai during the Konkan Railway realignment campaign) also lead to breach of privilege complaints. Luizinho Faleiro, in 1989, raised a breach of privilege against senior officials and Cabinet ministers for 'delay in obtaining assent to a Bill.' There were other unusual cases too. In 1980, ramponkar leader Matanhy Saldanha -- himself to later become an MLA -- sent a telegram to legislators. This telegram read: Traditional fishermen of Goa shall not tolerate any further delay in passing Marine Regulation Bill 1980. We don't need select committees. Traditional fishermen watching you carefully. Masses cannot always be fooled. A report from the then Legislature Secretary M M Naik quoted a 1780 House of Commons resolution, which said it was gross breach of privilege for anyone to try to compel members by force to declare themselves in favour or against any proposition then pending or expected to be brought before the House. Somehow the Select Committee decided later that it was better to ignore the telegram and treat it as undeserving of consideration.
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Santosh, the points made by Roland Francis are very relevant and make sense both legally as well as would clearly express the understanding in such matters of the signatory group. I missed this inadvertent glitch in the midst of working. venantius From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Comedy show Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism when it mentions this free democratic country of ours. Many of the petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens. Substituting free India would solve the problem. I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their right to express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a problem with the following contentions: a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual legislators who comprise it who are jokers. b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than government or elected representatives. The only time they have the power is when electing them with the expectation that they will uphold the constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation - none of which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of. While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time for the Varca comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the security detail in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post. Roland.
Re: [Goanet] Navhind Times Editorial
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - 2009/8/13 Anthony M Barreto tonymarti...@yahoo.com: Bro Fred, I have spoken an obvious truth many simply refuse to accept. I know your love for some of the people running the NGOs. Wot men, Bro. Tony! Is the platonic or something different? Imagination is the fountainhead of all creativity, inventions and discoveries. Let it run wild. More seriously, I agreed with Margaret in this case soon after reading the NT editorial, and not without a reason. The dislike of NGOs who are anti-Establishment in the slightest way by the mainstream media (read: newspapers connected with big industry in Goa) is well-known. Goanet has been through discussions over this in the past. Secondly, the editorial writer seems to be taking a legitimate issue over which we all should feel strongly about (the food-poisoning of hapless schoolkids via 'mid-day meals') and using it as a beating stick against NGOs in general. Thirdly, the concept of NGOs is also very vague and loosely defined. Who is an NGO? Is there any clear-cut definition for this term? As far as I understand, it's a catch-all phrase that includes people's movements, funded-organisations, the Rotary and Lions Clubs, trade union bodies like AITUC and the Goa Union of Journalists, the Roman Catholic Church or Partagal Mutt, the industry-founded Mineral Foundation of Goa, Dempo Charities Trust and even unfounded organisations such as BytesForAll (which I am associated with) and Goanet. Fourthly, this confusion over the RTI Act is just that... confusion! If any organisation (including those above) depends on government funding, then they too are accountable under the RTI Act themselves. This is not the first time that NGOs in Goa have been lambasted with just about any stick. It's telling on the state of affairs that while NGOs themselves often fail to play a consistently critical or oppositional role, even what they do is seen as a threat (while the BJP itself has had plans of setting up 500 more NGOs itself!) Whereever is the Opposition gone in the State? FN -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Thanks, Fred. -- From: Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] f...@bytesforall.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:52 PM To: Pat D ppd2...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet-News] Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group A pleasure, kindly check out the Facebook group (below) and also post this to goa...@goanet.org (not reply.goanet.n...@gmail.com) Thanks so much for your feedback. FN or Frederick or Rico (not Fred :-)) 2009/8/14 Pat D ppd2...@hotmail.com: Thanks, Fred, for all such invaluable contributions. God Bless: Pat Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:16:59 +0530 From: f...@goa-india.org To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet-News] Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group - Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - KONKANI ADAGES (for more see link at end) Baile-k gutth sangonaka, rai-ak fott marinaka, choganchem utor moddinaka Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group (of friends) Ballonterache chottke (or sutke), mornnanche attevitte Pangs of childbirth and death are quite alike Bandhum ieta tondd doriachem, punn bandhum nuzo vaitt uloitoleachem You can tie the mouth of the sea but you can't shut the mouth of a foul talker. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. Try it now. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
[Goanet] Tiatr news (new releases etc)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Tiatr news (new releases etc) dtd 13/8/09 RAG DHORINAKA by F. Cardozo Releasing 6th Sept Mapusa, 11th Margao, 26th Ponda (large ad appeared) Back to back You may have heard playing back to back Songs on radio or TV We saw films running back to back in theaters.. Ever heard of back to back tiatr shows? Recently, I read somewhere there were 3 back to back tiatr show in Mumbai many year ago (1960s) – see this handbill http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3659980474/sizes/o/ In Goa, recently a trend started ‘back to back’ 2 shows. ZAIT ZAGE by Prince Jacob There were two back to back shows in Panjim on 8th Aug. One at 3.30pm and the other 7.30pm Mr. Tomazin Cardoz was the chief guest while Irene Cardoz was the guest of honour. While the second show the Chief guest was Monohar Parrikar (if they all turned up or not, that I don’t know) Mahanand Monis vo Soitan by Tony Dias Likely to create another history. Why not? After all, he has got a title as ‘History Creator’ After Houseful shows in Ponda, Magao and Sanvordem 2 back to back shows in Margao on 16th 3.30pm and 7.pm GVN Earlier , at KA panjim 10.30am Then again next day at Margao 7.30pm, Pai Tiatrist Hall At Panjim, all ticket sold out at on today 13th Aug. (3 days before the show) After showing ‘Lok Tuka Piso Muntat Kiteak?’ in UK on 11th August 2009 (AS Party Hall) Afonso Simon de Benaulim now releasing his new tiatr ‘Kitem Kelem’ on 14th August Benaulim, Goa ‘Kiteak Bhurgim amchi Gireskai’ by Mario Menezes going on a Gulf Tour? Some news making rounds they they will be in Gulf in Sept in Muscut etc. Source: A father of a child artists acting in the Tiatr. There are two show in Margao and one at Cortalim on 15th August. Has Comedian Agustin hit double century yet? Showing his both Tiatr Poilice 1 2 simultaneously. While Police 1 completes 197th show at Margao on 17th August 3.30pm and Police 2 comlete 88 Show 7.30pm same hall same day Now this one not in Goa nor Mumbai nor Gulf.. Inacio Dias presents a Konkani Program ‘ZAGOR’ on 29th August and all new Konkani Songs and comedy on 30th Augusts at Bishop Sundaram Complex, Near St. Anthony Chapel at Valankinni (Madras) Tamil Nadu. Now, who is this senior tiatrist? I asked this before Could it be Joe Rose? http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3625134321/ I think this pic was sent by TAG president, Tomazin but no name supplied despite writing back to him joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Solving Healthcare crisis in America - Part II
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - This is the second of a four-part article that will be posted on Goanet for general information. Constructive comments are most welcome; and will help me polish this article before I send it for publication. Comprehensive Healthcare - Empowering the front-line of Medical Care. Part II Rewards and Disincentives (new RD) Healthcare reform needs to think out of the box without re-inventing the wheel. The past tells us that fragmentation of the system causes gaps and exacerbation of irrationalities at every step in healthcare delivery. Delay in reform only compounds the problem, as seen by the fallout in the domestic auto industry and bankruptcy of GM - world's largest corporation. Auto management and UAW unions were reportedly one of the first groups to torpedo Clintons' healthcare reform. As Congress debates mechanisms for reimbursement, physicians should debate grass-root delivery of care, without demagoging the alternatives. If doctors do not take control of healthcare delivery, others will dictate the terms. Planners needs to develop a new RD, best suited for America, and if needed, specifically targeted to regions. The most logical step is for medical organizations, through scientific studies, develop accepted benchmarks and Best Practice patterns, many of which already exist, but not universally implemented. More research efforts, dollars and scientific papers should be devoted to the study of cost-effectiveness of various treatment paradigms. Work on comparative effectiveness research (CER) has received impetus with recent federal funding. Knowing the effectiveness and economics of various alternatives will help doctors and hospitals to better practice and accept, or counter, directives of healthcare-insurers; who are positioning themselves as healthcare-managing corporations. These corporations will likely consume even more of the premiums as administrative costs. A parallel step is for existing authorities to develop RD (a new acronym) for all stake-holders, including the public, to promote evidence-based, cost-effective medical care. While organized medicine and others eagerly seeks carrots, few propose disincentives for poor practice-patterns. Itemized computer billing and electronic medical record (EMR) lends itself to biometric analysis, making it easy to detect poor practice-patterns. Non-payment of charges is probably the best incentive to stop inappropriate care, with the quickest response-time for change. It is less punitive than fines or malpractice lawsuits. To reduce incentives for volume of care, some suggest use of bundled reimbursement. This approach needs to be structured and monitored, as should other benchmarks, to prevent undesirable gate-keepers - medical or bureaucratic.
[Goanet] Fw: [GoaGenealogicalSociety] KARNATAKA GOAN ASSOCIATION - BANGALORE - 2009
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - rene barreto === WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 A day set aside to CELEBRATE our Goan Cultural Heritage, a day to promise to help the less fortunate in our Goan community: == - Forwarded Message From: rene barreto goan...@yahoo.co.uk To: goan...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:59:39 PM Subject: [GoaGenealogicalSociety] KARNATAKA GOAN ASSOCIATION - BANGALORE - 2009 Goemkars and Friends ! Goemkars and Friends ! WORLD GOA DAY 09 Karnataka Goan Assocition invites you to join them in their WORLD GOA DAY celebrations : - 22nd August, 2009 KGA website: http://www.kgabangalore.com/history.htm - - - - - - - KGA Flyer : See it in its ' true colors ' at http://worldgoaday2 009.blogspot. com/2009/ 06/blog-post. html This is what it reads : Does your heart feel content with *Xitt Koddi* and ' Balchao'? Does it fill with joy when you hear the Violin and ' Ghumot '? And throb with excitement as you Waltz, Jive and Salsa ? Does it feel fraternal love for all who speak Konkani ? Does your heart leap at the sight of the ocean ? And find contentment amongst kin galore ? Come CELEBRATE YOUR GOAN HEART with us at the KGA , Enjoy WORLD GOA DAY !!! at Opus , Palace Road m Bangalore - 22nd August , 2009 7.30 p.m. onwards 000 rene barreto - WORLD GOA DAY : WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS Participants: http://worldgoaday2 009.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/goa-nsw- sydney.html = = = = = = = = == From Goanet : Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ = See Flyer http://2.bp. blogspot. com/_QKPfld9QLHU /SnmFBui8_ 9I/Eac/ qdm8M3IT8iM/ s1600-h/FINALS+ 5.8.2009+ XX.jpg - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __ Recent ActivityVisit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. __,_._,___
[Goanet] Solving Healthcare crisis in America
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:33 PM From: Gilbert Lawrence The current debate is important for health insurance reforms to provide near-universal coverage, elimination of restrictions like pre-existing illness, guaranteed choice of coverage, affordable and portability insurance, and long-term financial stability of the Healthcare system. etc. Mario responds: Hey, Gilbert, If the government imposes an elimination of restrictions like pre-existing illness and demands guaranteed choice of coverage, why would people not wait until they had a serious illness before demanding to be insured, and paying for their own coughs and colds in the meantime? And what would that do to the actuarial estimates upon which sound insurance policies are based? Aren't such impositions a transparent method of putting private insurance companies out of business? Gilbert wrote: Healthcare is in a critical condition resulting in 52 million uninsured and under-insured people,... Mario clarifies: This is an even more inflated number than the estimate of 46 million being used by supporters of a government run health care system, which is also inflated. Why? Because many of these are either illegal aliens, younger Americans who can afford to buy their own health insurance but don't believe they need it relative to their other priorities, or Americans between jobs who have lost their health insurance temporarily. Here is another more detailed discussion of the uninsured in America: http://keithhennessey.com/2009/04/09/how-many-uninsured-people-need-additional-help-from-taxpayers/ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com I claimed the healthcare program for seniors was government-run health-insurance called Medicare. I did not claim it was free. Now is Medicare a government-run health-insurance or not? Please answer the question (Y/N). Mario responds: Of course it is, which is why it is projected to go bankrupt by 2017. Which is why I don't want the entire system to go down the same road. However, that was not the distortion. The distortion was when you wrote, The rare exceptions use any pretext to poison the well by presenting flat out lies like government take-over of the health-care system, thus bringing what is now political terrorism from main-street America (see link below) to Goanet. Boiling to the surface in towns across USA, are open revolts by middle-age White men, (and few paid women) who use all sorts of red-herrings to display their under-current of resentment against President Obama and his promotion of women and minorities. Your insinuation that people were poisoning the well by presenting flat out lies like government take-over of the health-care system, was itself a flat-out falsehood. The Youtube video I posted clearly showed that Obama's goal is an eventual government run health care system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk Gilbert wrote: The contents of the following link is from a Republican US senator; and is likely directed to people like you (a.k.a - Palinistas). Enjoy! Now we may see you calling this REPUBLICAN senator a socialist. And she being from Alaska, perhaps you may wish she moves to Russia, without the Palinistas ... of course.:=)) http://www.adn.com/life/health/story/895431.html Mario responds: These distortions never stop. The fact is that there is end of life counseling in the current draft of Obamacare. The fact is that one of the brains behind the bill, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, wants the government to make value judgments on what treatments older Americans should have. The fact is that the state of Oregon already has socialized medicine which recently sentenced an older woman to death by refusing to pay for chemotherapy that she wanted, and offering to pay for her euthanasia. The fact is that socialized health care is rationed in Canada and Britain and panels decide what's good for a patient or groups of patients. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12857 Thus, Sarah Palin's description of such end of life panels as Death Panels was far closer to the truth, even if hyperbolic, than Gilbert's attempts to demonize what Palin had said by quoting one of her political rivals..
Re: [Goanet] Will the Goan American reactionaries please stand up?
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - From: Mario Goveia Americans, who refuse to even carpool or subjugate their independence to public transportation, will not put up with some nameless, faceless bureaucrat putting them on a waiting list or deciding what pain medication they can take or what test or procedure they cannot have. Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:30:48 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com Which Americans are these?? Those that are losing their jobs, houses, cars faster than the spurious emails coming from the above author?? 7 million lost jobs in the past 18 months?? [1] 2.3 million US homeowners faced foreclosure on their properties in 2008. Close to 2.5 million properties for sale at www.foreclosure.com Which America is this?? Reality check!! If you ain't got a job, how do you pay for essentials let alone medical procedures?? Mario responds: It is the 90% plus of Americans who have jobs, and the 96% of homeowners who did not face foreclosure or have properties for sale and the 90% who have health insurance and the 70% of those who are happy with their health insurance and the growing number of Americans who don't want any government involvement in running health insurance. That's who. Posted July 17th, 2009 at 11:36 AM by Donna Martinez From Rasmussen Reports: Just 35% of U.S. voters now support the creation of a government health insurance company to compete with private health insurers. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 50% of voters oppose setting up a government health insurance company as President Obama and congressional Democrats are now proposing in their health care reform plan. Bosco wrote: It appears we have an author here who is deeply rooted in fantasy and unable and/or unwilling to separate illusion from truth. Sounds like a die-hard fan of McMahon's WWE. Mario responds: Here we see the person who has been presenting fact after independant fact being described as being rooted in fantasy, while the person who has not presented a single useful fact in context, and doesn't even seem to be familiar with the health care system where he lives, pretending to be the serious observer. Bosco wrote: How many trillions down and how long will it take to recover them, if at all?? Everybody loves the good times however we are presented with dimpled xenophobia on a daily basis, 4 times each day, Monday thru Friday from the above author, better known as the voice of distorting the truth and the source of endless gratuituous comments. Mario observes: Here we see Bosco suggesting we spend even more on wasteful government programs while he steps on yet another cow cake:-)) This is his impression of common sense but its really the opposite. Clearly, as we have seen time and time again, Bosco has nothing rational to say about any of the issues and then steps in cow cakes when he tries to imitate Goan crabs:-)) This is the classic fate of those who look at some narrow facts, without any context or perspective.
[Goanet] Misrepresentations of the views of others
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - From: Mario Goveia [Quote below has been deliberately truncated to change its meaning] In the meantime, life in the US is terrible and racist. Millions are not covered by health insurance. Millions are dying in the streets writhing in pain while others pass them by without compassion. The life expectancy is plummeting. Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) From: marlon menezes goa...@yahoo.com I am quite surprised that Mario would change in views of the US in such a short time. It does not make sense for such drastic changes to take place in a matter of just 7 months of the Obama presidency.. but then again, this is the same Mario who has in the past advocated the claim of Global Cooling, or more recently claimed that the Pope supports socialism or that the late John Paul sympathized with 911 attackers because of his opposition to the Iraq war. Mario responds: This is pretty amazing. I wonder if Marlon is having comprehension issues. To begin with, anyone who follows Goanet would know that I don't change my well developed and clearly thought out views very easily. I had already shown that the quote above was deliberately truncated by Mervyn to misrepresent what I had written. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181463.html So what does Marlon do? Amazingly, he repeats the misrepresentation. Does he think I wouldn't notice? The rest of his comments are just as bogus and thus meaningless, though I wonder if he even knows that the globe hasn't noticeably warmed any further since 1998. Marlon wrote: The problem with the above statement is that Americans want the best, but don't have the means to pay for it. Furthermore, those who are currently beneficiaries of this unsustainable system, quite logically fear that any changes would mean a significant reduction of their benefits. Mario, who so vocally opposes socialized medicine is one of its biggest beneficiary via the Medicare system. Mario responds: If Marlon would read and/or understand what has been posted already he would know that I am opposed to socialized medicine precisely because the government run Medicare system is going broke. So, he has made another meaningless statement. Besides, 90% of Americans have health insurance and 70% are happy with what they have, so to say that Americans don't have the means to pay for America's superior health care is another bogus statement. The estimate of the truly uninsured is somewhere around 15 million out of a American population of over 300 million, not the 47 to 52 million that is being bandied around. The higher figures include illegal aliens, legal aliens who are not citizens and people earning over $75,000 a year who can afford to buy insurance but haven't. Marlon wrote: Contrary to Mario's claim that the socialized system in the US is functioning fine, the facts speak otherwise. Mario observes: Wow! Didn't I observe already that Marlon is having a severe comprehension problem? Here is what I said in: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181502.html Excerpt: However, because the Medicare system has been designed and is run by government bureaucrats and is a single-payer system, it is projected to become bankrupt by 2017. http://www.examiner.com/x-11804-Health-Care-Examiner~y2009m6d17-Medicare-trustees-report-shows-program-will-run-out-of-money-earlier-than-expected Thus for Gilbert to point to this system as a paragon to be expanded for all Americans is disingenuous at best. Either that, or he has no idea what is going on. [end of excerpt] Marlon wrote: My preferred path would be to have a solely private system with basic socialized coverage for children and the handicapped only. I also do not support free health care for the aged. Higher premiums should be expected for older people - that is an expected cost of getting older and should be factored in by individuals during their working years. Obviously, insurance companies should not have the right to terminate pre-existing medical coverage after a certain age. Mario responds: This comprehension problem seems quite serious. a) Earlier in this same post Marlon defended Obama when he wrote, It does not make sense for such drastic changes to take place in a matter of just 7 months of the Obama presidency.. b) Now Marlon is suggesting a system that is the exact opposite of Obama's. Marlon apparently cannot engage in honest debate without fabricating what others have written previously. It is a waste of bandwidth to keep correcting such deliberate or careless falsehoods on Goanet.
[Goanet] Bon Konsanchem fest
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - On the great day of 15th August as we celebrate Konsanchem Fest,there is a great threat for Konos.The way our fields are getting converted into concrete jungles forces us to think negatively whether our next goan generation will have konos to celebrate the same. Bon Konsanchem fest in advance. Viva Goa! Viva Goenkar! Goenchea Saiba rakh amchim ur'lellin xetam. regards, Joel Morais Cuncolim.
[Goanet] Goa news for August 14, 2009
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa BJP unit wants low key Ganesh celebrations - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisGoa has registered 13 positive cases of swine flu while Ganesh Chaturthi season beginning from next week will see large number of people arriving from ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-bjp-unit-wants-low-key-ganesh-celebrations_1282210usg=AFQjCNEAEMDhp_Tnqnpd75oUZWoNRdPpow *** Goa government yet to keep on hold high security number plates - SamayLive mayLivePanaji, Aug 13 Goa's Transport department today said that they are yet to receive any formal communication from the state government asking them to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.samaylive.com/news/goa-government-yet-to-keep-on-hold-high-security-number-plates/646824.htmlusg=AFQjCNF1qKh7SAwaWY91ihzab2Enk0HmJA *** Now, Hindu outfit wants Goa museum to remove Husain painting - Times of India usain-s-painting-at-state-gallery-creates-controversy_1281532usg=AFQjCNH9-Y4MC7sqeIh3zls_YSF3WbEOngMF Husain's painting at state gallery creates controversy http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Now-Hindu-outfit-wants-Goa-museum-to-remove-Husain-painting/articleshow/4882219.cmsusg=AFQjCNFAWEDXHlLjmSKLMwU_pCMfolDqqQ *** Goa minister beats up guards, makes them kneel down - SamayLive BDIggN6C5Mand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.samaylive.com/news/goa-minister-beats-up-guards-makes-them-kneel-down/646898.htmlusg=AFQjCNG-8zbqgTZohQ-cwyhk84MWqvJuIw *** Goa NRI panel awaits nod for 100 jobs in Europe - Hindu M http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/08/13/stories/200908130700.htmusg=AFQjCNFVDlNaSO_xWpbeJAD7SBtPBa8YLw *** Goa: Flu scare spoils I-Day weekend - Deccan Herald ccan HeraldA number of hotels in Goa are reporting 10 per cent cancellations for the Independence Day weekend as travel plans are being revised with the swine flu ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/19474/goa-flu-scare-spoils-day.htmlusg=AFQjCNEQwTq5Wx3PweFGTLNrTqeVuITyQA *** Goa to Seek Maharashtra\'s Help to Probe Sambar Killing - Daijiworld.com ijiworld.comPanaji, Aug 13: The Goa Forest department have decided to seek assistance from its Maharashtra counterpart in probing a sambar killing case after the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=64087n_tit=Goa+to+Seek+Maharashtra's+Help+to+Probe+Sambar+Killingusg=AFQjCNEoOjN25gOQQXDK0tsNgmJyLNPIDw *** Masks Flying Off Pharmacy Shelves In Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI/MARGAO: Surgical masks are fast disappearing off pharmacy shelves with a swine flu scare sweeping across the state. The N95 surgical mask, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Masks-Flying-Off-Pharmacy-Shelves-In-Goa/articleshow/4887885.cmsusg=AFQjCNFZDUtU8GW9HNUCJZSqLLInAijkBg *** Goa scene okay: central team - Herald Publications rald PublicationsThe Centre has said that things are under control in Goa on the H1N1 flu, but has suggested a slew of measures to the Government to contain the spread of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=25925cid=2usg=AFQjCNHgCUKLZNNksbm1qNRhClGSsqKKZQ *** Tourism takes a knock in Goa - Economic Times onomic TimesPANAJI: The swine flu scare has struck a body blow to the Goa tourism industry, already struggling to find its feet in the aftermath of global financial ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News-by-Industry/Tourism-takes-a-knock-in-Goa/articleshow/4891949.cmsusg=AFQjCNHDrqpOrBiTNwrfbrEBtQpHsq75NA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] OP-ED: Our Cultural Crossroads
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Our Cultural Crossroads by Vivek Menezes Goa's future as a cultural centre hangs by a single thread today, as State Museum authorities continue to formulate their response to the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti's demand that an uncontroversial painting (of a white bull) by M. F. Husain be removed from its modest gallery of contemporary Indian master artists. If the director of the museum, Radha Bhave capitulates to this unreasonable demand, it will mean instant destruction of all the goodwill and credibility that Goa has painstaking accumulated as a hospitable, nationally significant centre for film, art, music and literature. It is vital that all the stakeholders who have contributed to this development - from Kala Academy to the Entertainment Society of Goa to the artists, writers and musicians of our state - now ensure that the accumulated results of their hard work isn't lost at this critical juncture. The stakes are extremely high. In the past five years, Goa's cultural profile has risen steadily. It has become a centre for film-making - just last week the director Rakeysh (Rang de Basanti) Mehra predicted Goa will be India's next film capital. In addition, for the first time ever, painters like Subodh Kerkar, Antonio e Costa and Viraj Naik are demonstrating that mature international careers are possible even if you live in a Goan village. And our state has also become home or retreat to an unbelievable array of literary luminaries - winners of the Nobel and Booker Prize, Sahitya Akademi award-winners, international, regional and national best-selling writers, they have begun to flock to Goa precisely because of the longstanding traditions of openness and tolerance that are now under threat. The unreasonableness of the HJS demand is underlined by its admission that the Husain painting that it wants removed isn't objectionable. Instead, it claims Husain has always hurt the religious feelings and national sentiments of millions of Hindus and Indians.his paintings of deities and Bharat Mata in the nude were thoroughly obscene. But this argument has already been comprehensively demolished by the Supreme Court of India decision of Sept. 8 last year, when Chief Justice Balakrishnan noted that there are many such pictures, paintings and sculptures, and some of them are in temples also. In Goa itself, we know that there are many striking examples of 'sky-clad'deities, like the glorious Loliem Vetal (to name just one). The campaign by HJS actually has little to do with religion, instead it is all about the politics of intimidation. In this regard, it is instructive to read the text of the sharp rebuke delivered from the bench of the Delhi High Court earlier in 2008, to similar petitioners against the 92-year-old Husain. In plain language with great relevance to our current situation in Goa, Justice Sanjay Kaul wrote, India's new Puritanism, practiced by a largely ignorant crowd in the name of India's spiritual purity, is threatening to throw the nation back into the pre-Renaissance era. The criminal justice system should not be used as an easy recourse to ventilate against a creative act. Justice Kaul added, very reasonably, Our greatest problem today is fundamentalism, the triumph of the letter over the spirit. The test for judging a work of art should be that of an ordinary man of common sense and not that of a hyper-sensitive one.looking at a piece of art from the painter's perspective becomes very important, especially in the context of the nude. Examine the astonishingly productive 70-year long career of Maqbool Fida Husain in the context of his peers in Indian contemporary art, and it immediately becomes clear that we are talking about a genuine desh-bhakt. He came to prominence after being discovered by our own, Saligao-born Francis Newton Souza, at whose invitation he joined the seminal Progressive Artist's Movement in 1947 (the Goan artists Vasudeo Gaitonde and Laxman Pai were also members of the PAM at various times). But unlike his avowed mentor Souza or friends, Gaitonde, Pai, Raza, Ram Kumar, Padamsee and many, many others, he never left India for the better developed art marketplaces of the West for any significant time. All through the very lean 1950's and 1960's, when there was only a very arid, impoverished market for Indian painters at home he stayed and painted in India, always on Indian themes like the Mahabharata, and lived in near-penury while his contemporaries achieved marginally better lives abroad. These were entire decades when the words modern art were a kind of slur in India,
[Goanet] Tata Crucible Quiz - Goa
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Hi all, The Goa round of Tata Crucible, India's biggest business quiz, will be held on the 18th of August at 4.30 pm at the National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula. For more details, log on to http://seqc.blogspot.com/ or http://www.tatacrucible.com/. Regards, Rajiv
Re: [Goanet] Kudos for JC's views on the health care debate
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - 2009/8/13 Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net Thus, in spite of the classic Goan crabby and uninformed insinuations of Marlon, Gilbert and Gabe, I am not getting any special benefit from the status quo that I have not and am not paying for, while the system itself is in imminent danger of financial collapse. RESPONSE: What's this about Goan Crab mentality, does the writer know what the expression means? Who is trying to bring down the the so called smart crab? i.e. who is envious/ Or has the writer got the crabs? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Roland, You make good points, and I know that our letter will be criticized, as any letter would be by people against whom it is directed. I will make the change regarding free India, but I have a different perspective on the points you made. 1. I believe India is our native country, irrespective of our current citizenship status. 2. The agreement with Samir is with his reference to the assembly as a comedy show. Please read his article. 3. I disagree that the power of individuals is limited to election time. My understanding is that the essence of any free democracy is that power resides in the people, not in the government or in any elected representative. While the right to vote is definitely the most consequential expression of this power, the right to free speech is perennial, and in my opinion, more important. Our letter reclaims this power. Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Santosh, this letter can be open to justifiable criticism when it mentions this free democratic country of ours. Many of the petitioners are likely non-Indian citizens. Substituting free India would solve the problem. I am in full solidarity with Peter and Samir and their right to express their opinions as citizens, but I would have a problem with the following contentions: a) The Goa Vidhan Sabha is not a joke. It is the indivdual legislators who comprise it who are jokers. b) Individual citizens cannot be more powerful than government or elected representatives. The only time they have the power is when electing them with the expectation that they will uphold the constitution, the good of the state and it's reputation - none of which Rane and his cohorts seem capable of. While you are at it, you might as well ask for jail time for the Varca comedian for the lastest episode of the assault on the security detail in Seraulim advised in Uday Barad's post. Roland.
[Goanet] US body on religious freedom puts India on watch list.
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - US body on religious freedom puts India on watch list. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-body-on-religious-freedom-puts-india-on-watch-list/99133-2.html The US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) has placed India on its Watch List for New Delhi's largely inadequate response in protecting its religious minorities. AMERICA'S MINORITY WATCH LIST US body on religious freedom puts India on watch list Press Trust Of India Published on Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:03, Updated on Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:36in Worldsection Tags: Minority Report, US Commission On International Religious Freedom , Washington WE THE PEOPLE: US says India has done little to protect its religious minorities under siege. Bottom of Form Washington:The US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) has placed India on its Watch List for New Delhi's largely inadequate response in protecting its religious minorities. In a statement, USCIRF said India earned the Watch List designation due to the disturbing increase in communal violence against religious minorities – specifically Christians in Orissa in 2008 and Muslims in Gujarat in 2002 - and the largely inadequate response from the Indian government to protect the rights of religious minorities. It is extremely disappointing that India, which has a multitude of religious communities, has done so little to protect and bring justice to its religious minorities under siege, said Leonard Leo, USCIRF chair. USCIRF's India chapter was released this week to mark the first anniversary of the start of the anti-Christian violence in Orissa. Any country that is designated on the USCIRF Watch List requires close monitoring due to the nature and extent of violations of religious freedom engaged in or tolerated by the government. Other countries currently on the Commission's Watch List are Afghanistan, Belarus, Cuba, Egypt, Indonesia, Laos, the Russian Federation, Somalia, Tajikistan, Turkey, and Venezuela.
[Goanet] Please Help a Good Cause
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Dear Goans, Please see below email from Mr. Armando Gonsalves I think it is a noble cause , if you can help kindly get in touch with Armando (email armando gonsalves armando...@yahoo.co.in, armando Gonsalves heritage...@yahoo.co.in) Regards, Arwin HI Arwin, Since we have a great Brazilian Band in India, I brought them to Goa to perform in aid of the Brasil Futebol Academia in Goa, which is basically supported by Beto of Dempo and Barreto of Mohun Bagan, both Brazilian footballers. They give a percentage of their large earnings as the basic support to the academy. The academy trains Goan boys in football, and they are doing yeoman service to us. Today, there was a lovely article of how their effort means that 2 Goan boys will go to Brazil for training, besides the 135 others they train in Goa. 100% of the proceeds of the show on the 15th will go to them, and I am doing my own bit with friends to recover the costs. I am requesting you to send money, NOT FOR ME, but directly to the Academia so that we can augment the monies that they get. Would be great if you can do your bit from Dubai, and I leave it to you as to how much you can egg people from there to give. Over here, business men are giving money, and the support to the show too is very good. We will go full. The link attached is of the events page of the show. We had a great press conference yesterday, and the media is excited as to what we are doing. I will give you wide publicity as support from goans in dubai, to football in goa and we can also announce individual names if you so desire. The names can also go on our very popular website. NDTV and other TV stations are covering the event, and i have the special correspondent of the International Indian magazine based in Dubai, who will cover the event too. Wide reach, we need all of us to be together in this. Do your best, this could be great moment for all of us to get togehter to do things together. God bless you, Armando P.S. I will ask for the account number of the academy so that you can send money directly to them/. In this way, no one will doubt that i am trying to get money for the cost of the show. We have to be honest, and we have to be seen to be honest too! -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
[Goanet] Top 10 Scientific Breakthroughs of 2007
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Breakthroughs from 2007 most likely to change the world. More here. Con http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/YE_10_breakthroughs
[Goanet] SMILE................. IT'S WEEKEND (13/08/2009)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - BUT MY…….. A man (Bostu) with a gun enters into a bank, and shouts: Bostu: Hands up!!! All the staffs as well as customers got panicked and raised their hands up, Bostu goes to the cashier (Tukaram) and demands all the money he has. The cashier (Tukaram) did as per Bostu's demand. Once he is given the money, Bostu turns to a customer and asks: Bostu: Did you see me rob this bank? The man: (replied) Yes sir, I did. Bostu then shot him dead. Bostu asked a second customer (an old lady) Bostu: You Lady, Did you see me robbing this bank? Old Lady: Well….., yes…… surely I saw you……. Bostu shot her too. Then Bostu turned to a couple standing next to him and asked the man: Bostu: Now you tell me, Did you see me rob this bank? The man : (replied): No sir, I didn't, but my wife did! Cajetan de Sanvordem Kuwait
Re: [Goanet] Education in neo colonial Goa
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Bernado, In college and university classes there is not too much interaction between the lecturer/professor and the students. That interaction usually takes place in forums outside of teaching halls. Therefore it really doesn't matter how many students are in class as long as the prof can be heard and his materials can be seen. Typically in Canadian Universities there are about 150 students in first year classes and lectures take place in large halls. These numbers get considerably lesser in senior years where one can see 20 or less. While Canada in 2009 has a population of about 33 million, India even in 1961 had more than 450 million souls. Therefore the numbers mentioned above are in sync. Not unusual for you to have had 200 boys and girls in class in your day and certainly not indicative of a lower quality of education due to student numbers. Roland. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Bernado Colacoole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Post 61 saw mass education, that meant that there were hundred of students dumped in a class. For example when I studied at SS Dempo there were about 200 students in one class. One wonders what sort of standard could achieved with these high number of students. The idea of the neo colonialists was yeah we made it - education for everybody- but abysmally crap. BC
[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY - SATURDAY, AUGUST 15TH, 2009 - Montreal
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Hi All, See you at our 9th annual WORLD GOA DAY Picnic to celebrate Goan Solidarity with fellow GOEMKARS around the world. Date: Saturday, August 15th, 2009. Time: 10.00am - 6.00pm Location: Parc Angrignon, Lasalle (located at 3400 Boul. des Trinitaires, off Boul. de La Verendrye) Join us on the picnic grounds near the metro station at 10:00AM. See you there [with friends and family]. Also bring your favorite food [dish] for the potluck lunch. Don't forget to bring your snacks, desert, drinks, chairs, umbrella, etc, etc. etc. [picnic stuff]. Thanks, from the Goemkars Best Regards, Felix D'Sa, www.felixhabari.piczo.com
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (14Aug09)
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Aunty Rose...Anthiriums...Sun Flowers...Neem...Lawn Mower...you're a mobile nursery...! Been to the Festival of Plants 'N' Flowers at SFX School, Siolim - 14 to 16 Aug. Go for it! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] World Goa Day In Dubai
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - World Goa Day In Dubai The First World Goa Day in Dubai, which was celebrated on Friday, 7th August 2009 at the Renaissance Hotel, saw a full house, not a seat vacant and even though it was a holiday season and a lot of Goans gone out on holidays, still a good number of Goans had to go back disappointed as tickets were all sold out. Hats off to Cynthia and company, for putting up the show at such a short notice, and a job very well done, considering it was her first venture, to get UAE Goans under one roof. I was happy to see a lot of crowd from the length and breadth of Goa assemble and enjoy themselves, the traditional Goan way. It does go to show that, if we set our minds collectively we can achieve, it's the unity factor that we have to protect and preserve to achieve success and in doing so preserve the essence of Goan culture, identity and our heritage. An occasion like this is an opportunity for Goans to revitalize the Goanness in us and expose the younger generation to the nostalgia that we once experienced, so that Goa lives through them. In this pseudo-spartan life style that some of us are used to, in this present surrounding, we do tend to forget our roots and this is, as good a time and chance as any, to rekindle the essence of Goa in us and in our surroundings. The saxophonist brought back a lot of old memories with ever so soothing music, it's a pity that this art of music is dying an agonising death in Goa, the Konkanni songs did take us back in time and the music by the one man band added to the flavour and expressed our love for music, the folk songs and dances brought out our colourful culture and traditions. Arwin in his speech showed that it's not all fun and games that we are interested in and stressed that we should protect and preserve our Goan Identity and culture which is under threat. The live Band swung us to the nostalgic beats of both old and modern, Konkanni , English and Hindi songs. The ambience was ecstatic, the floor was never empty, all shaking their young and not so young legs, keeping the Goan spirit alive and kicking and that was important. The cuisine was excellent as I was told except for the misplaced label of sorpatel which did not look or taste anything like our traditional sorpatel, all the rest was prefect, all in all, an evening well spent. Keep it up Goans. Thank you Cynthia and may Goa bless you. However good the show might be there is always room for improvement and hence here are a few suggestions to make WGD more interesting and meaningful: I think, the first thing that has to be addressed is our knowledge of Goa hence a questioner to each entrant with 15 to 20 questions and the most right answers to get a good prize, question pertaining to history, culture, flag, state animal or bird, geography (rivers, lakes, peaks or range), beaches, islands, languages, dresses, modes of transports, national highways, airport, locations of places, constituencies, MLA's, Ministers, CM, Governor, parties, educational institutions, cultural foundations, Churches, Temples, Mosques, Forts, Goa's entry into the Indian union, our neighbours, our borders, agricultural produce, traditions and customs, festivals, electricity, water supply, dams, mines, wild life sanctuaries, Panchayats, so on and so forth, that will test and enhance knowledge of Goa. Meeting Goans in Dubai I have realised a lot of Goans are ignorant of what's going on in Goa, they are too busy to go through the papers or just don't care, so awareness is a must, and a video presentation of the highs and the low of Goa along with the achievements and loses, devastation of our hills and forests and water bodies, major on going projects and projects in the pipe line and the pros and cons of it all. Laws passed and affect on Goans, as to where we are in the field of education, poverty eradication and the health care policy. A suggestion box for tomorrow's Goa or Goa we want to see at the end should also be tried, the questioner and the suggestion box will generate interest in Goa's past, present and future. And if we can generate that interest, we do have our essence of World Goa Day right there. Competition of group folk dances will enhance more participation and involve more youth, diverse culture will be on display, a short quiz for the youth or the audience, an award for Goan personality of the year in the UAE, we should have a few contenders like, Cynthia for her yeomen service to Goans in distress, or Benedict for projecting Goa through Goamag or Radio Goa or Arwin for that matter or even the football organisers like Bonnie or the leader of the Goan Sodelity, it
Re: [Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Santosh, please add me to your list. Roland. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Santosh Helekarchimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Roland, You make good points, and I know that our letter will be criticized, as any letter would be by people against whom it is directed. I will make the change regarding free India, but I have a different perspective on the points you made. 1. I believe India is our native country, irrespective of our current citizenship status. 2. The agreement with Samir is with his reference to the assembly as a comedy show. Please read his article. 3. I disagree that the power of individuals is limited to election time. My understanding is that the essence of any free democracy is that power resides in the people, not in the government or in any elected representative. While the right to vote is definitely the most consequential expression of this power, the right to free speech is perennial, and in my opinion, more important. Our letter reclaims this power. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Navhind Times Editorial
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Further to my message. The comments made by Fredrick Noronha are quite valid. For example, he says that the 'sins' of a single NGO should not be held against the whole group of NGO. There is, however, a larger issue. Should the NGOs display the same level of transparency in its dealings as it asks others? For example, why should they not make their accounts available for public knowledge? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Grassroots politicians oppose panchayat amendment
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Grassroots politicians oppose panchayat amendment Joaquim Fernandes, TNN 12 August 2009, 05:56am IST PANAJI: The recently-formed Panchayat Democratic Forum on Tuesday vowed to launch an agitation to protest the recent amendment to the Panchayati Raj Act and continue it till the amendment is withdrawn. The forum comprising sarpanchas, panch members and activists from across Goa conducted its first meeting on Tuesday and decided to approach the governor to urge him not to assent to the controversial amendment. Speaker after speaker blasted the government for effecting the amendment they said would take away the powers of the panchayats. Centre for Panchayati Raj director Soter D'Souza said the amendment is an effort to usurp the panchayat powers and described the move as unconstitutional. He said ruling and opposition MLAs acted together in passing the bill during the recent assembly session. The government does not want to follow the model Panchayati Raj Act because it does not want to devolve powers to the panchayats, D'Souza said. He also said that with the amendment, the government has opened the doors of injustice to panchayats. Panchayat secretaries will connive to commit irregularities and this will result in problems at the village panchayats, he alleged. We need to come out unitedly to fight against this amendment, D'Souza said. Advocate Thalmann Pereira said the amendment is against the spirit of the 73rd and 74th amendment to the Constitution of India. Benevolent dictatorship is not acceptable. Democracy is democracy and people will decide about their representatives depending on their report cards, Pereira said. He recollected that when the bill was referred to the select committee, Saligao MLA Dilip Parulekar had raised four objections to the bill. These included the suggestions to take the panchayats into confidence regarding the bill, that panchayat powers of the panchayats were being taken away and that giving powers to panchayat secretaries would encourage manipulation by vested interests. Parulekar had inexplicably withdrawn his objections, Pereira said. Former Calangute sarpanch Joseph Sequeira appealed to the assembly to stand united in their fight against the amendment. The government should have taken all 189 sarpanchas into confidence on this bill. The MLAs get elected on the support of sarpanchas and panch members and then they trample over us. The governor should not give his assent to this bill, Sequeira said. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Grassroots-politicians-oppose-panchayat-amendment/articleshow/4883851.cms
Re: [Goanet] Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - thank you, frederick, .. deo borem kor, like they say!. if it were not for your goanet, i would have lost touch with goa!. a proud goan fernandes, i am. anthony - Original Message - From: Frederick FN Noronha KONKANI ADAGES (for more see link at end) Baile-k gutth sangonaka, rai-ak fott marinaka, choganchem utor moddinaka Don't trust secrets with the wife, don't lie to the king, honour decisions of the group (of friends)
