[Goanet-News] OBIT: Lt Gen EA Vas (1923-2009)
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[Goanet-News] On Goanet: Now it's the fringe groups... (summary of Goanet posts by Selma Carvalho)
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[Goanet] What Michael Jackson and Goa have in common
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com This morning I read that Michael Jackson's mother is considering the possibility of suing Jackson's doctor for wrongful death. Now consider this, Jackson was a grown man of 50, who for years was estranged from his family and infact had a very troubled relationship with his father. During these 50 odd years of Jackson's life, the family did precious little to reign in Jackson's bizarre lifestyle. For years and years the family aided and abetted Jackson's addiction, making whatever excuses it needed to make for him and now it is truly rich that they should seek to sue the doctor. A very similar situation is occurring in Goa. For all the time I have been on Goanet at least, I have been crying hoarse about how the fundamentalist groups in Goa will grow to strangle our very democracy. Some months back I was demonised as being a fear-monger and trying to divide the community along communal lines. Now the chickens have come home to roost. They aren't targeting just Muslims or Christians, their targets have turned to respectable members of the Hindu community themselves. The only problem is how do we fell the giant of distortion that we have created in our midst? Frederick tells us that these individuals should be taken on in the Marathi media. The more important question is why are the Marathi media papers recruiting grounds for these individuals? The power that these groups have is their ingenuity. What is peddled is nothing but falsity but of course it can always be true can't it? If it is couched in the right manner. It could just be true that Muslims are responsible for centuries of persecuting Hindus and should now inturn be victimised lest they rise again and build a few more Taj Mahals; it just could be true that Christians are responsible for the Inquisition and that they could suddenly turn a 1.2 billion country into a Christian stronghold? That the vast Hindu majority has failed in Goa to actually question these untruths, to vociferously take on these groups, to me says they have been nothing more than the Jackson family of Goa. best, selma
Re: [Goanet] After a dry spell...
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[Goanet] Goa's Artistic Freedom under threat
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Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
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[Goanet] Stereotyping a Goan Girl?
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[Goanet] XCHR History Hour:The sacred and blest remains of St Thomas body.... - Prof Dr Manuel Ferro
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Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
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[Goanet] The Goan Connection
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[Goanet] Herald editorial and reports on Kerkar issue
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Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam ’
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[Goanet] DON'T DEPRIVE CURTORKARS!
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[Goanet] Are we doing enough to promote the reading habit?
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Re: [Goanet] The Pope's moral blunders on outsourcing S AAiyar(Times of India)
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Re: [Goanet] Will the Goan American reactionaries please stand-up
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[Goanet] (Swine Flu) Govt. Directive to Schools: No Monring Assembly etc
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Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam ’
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com CHIRPOTTAM, Gabe... Here they are sold as chrysalis; ca 110 SEK (x 6 rps) a kg; slightly bigger than the Goan variety reddish... Alfred Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:49:17 +0100 From: gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam’ 2009/8/17 JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk We call it ‘Chipttam’ When matured or ripped, these are edible and I ate plenty. Edible part inside is round shape, about the size of Green Peas They grow well in the fields. You don’t to plant or grow them they grow just like that e.g. villages, bushes, fields etc They may grow around the same place year after year. RESPONSE: I think it is the same thing we get here in the shops called Cape Gooseberrys. I think when I was very young my first trip to Goa, I had eaten it. It was called chitpuram? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London. _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Let's go fishing: This is called 'Hunttanni'
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[Goanet] OBIT: Lt Gen EA Vas (1923-2009)
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[Goanet] Camoes on Kerala
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[Goanet] One who soars too high, drowns
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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Vanishing footpath due to sand erosion?
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[Goanet] YWCA invites you to celebrate Teachers Day
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Re: [Goanet] Camoes on Kerala
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Perhaps the statue to Luis de Camões that once stood at Old Goa could be sent to Kerala along with the pedestal on which it originally stood and tells a story. BTW, where is the statue now? - Original Message From: Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 8:37:50 PM Subject: [Goanet] Camoes on Kerala A series of lectures by Manuel Ferro of the University of Coimbra in Portugal, which began at St. Thomas College here on Monday, will refer to the historical and literary importance of ‘The Lusiads’. “The epic poem will be of great interest to Malayalis. Its descriptive passages tell us of the palace of the Zamorin. The poem has been translated into Konkani. It is yet to be translated into Malayalam,” said C. J. Davees of the Centre for Lusofone Studies, introducing the lecture series. The series is a part of promoting Portuguese studies in Thrissur. The Goa-based Oriental Foundation has donated 600 Protuguese books to St. Thomas College. From Tuesday through Friday, Prof. Ferro will lecture on ‘The St. Thomas episode in ‘Lusiads’, ‘Camoes’ colloquies with Lusophony’, ‘Manuel Alegre’s and Jose Saramago’s Camoes’ and ‘The Indian community in Portugal. K. Santhosh __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Rico, I am in perfect agreement with you with respect to condolences to the family. What I was answering was Joe's question: why more and more people venture into the sea at Miramar in the absence of lifeguards, and you took me out of context. What I am getting at is the attitude of youth, who needlessly put their lives at risk. Unfortunately, Without being regional, I do see, unfortunately, us brown-skins (and other Asians for that matter) taking unnecessary risks, perhaps in trying to imitate the more experienced people. Just today I saw a true-life TV episode on Sydney's beaches with three Asian men being rescued from the sea. I have been taught by my parents (and my father was a good swimmer in his days) to treat the sea with respect, and never take chances. It sometimes appears that most people who have never seen the sea think of it as a large swimming pool, not knowing it can be treacherous what with waves and creatures that it can harbour, like jellyfish. Now in this case, I understand the businessman took a kayak into the waves, without any safety gear. Now, even experienced white-water rafters wear floatation devices and other safety equipment, and it would be a foolhardy person who would go into rough seas without adequate protection. Apparently. going by the news, the friends told the police, “He would never wear a life jacket. When we insisted that he wear it before going kayaking, he would tease us and say that while we might be scared, he isn’t.” - now if that isn't bravado, I don't know what is. Even if there were life-guards, from my point of view, it would have been rather difficult to save the man without adequate means to do so (e.g. inflatable motor-craft) in, what appears to have been, a rip current (a rip is a strong current of water running out to sea - http://www.scienceofthesurf.com/SOSFact_Sheet_Rip.pdf). The structures you talk of is education. Instruct people to swim *well* in relatively calm waters before they venture out to sea, and teach them to repect the waves.Teach people what to do if they get ino difficulty (signs that a life-guard can recognise that they are in difficulty), the meaning of various flags, etc. And always have people to look out for you if you do venture into deeper waters, as life-guards may not always see you, especially if you suddenly disappear. http://www.safewatersports.co.uk/SwimmingintheSea.html I do hope you understand my perspective. Gabriel. PS I understand jellyfish are now pretty common aroung Goa's beaches. Carry some vinegar with you - can be useful for most jellyfish stings. http://www.avru.org/compendium/biogs/A71b.htm - Original Message From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 5:47:33 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I disagree and don't feel that we should bring in regional sentiments (any Goan worth his salt... a number of Indians) into a tragic matter like death. It could happen to anyone. Hindsight is perfect-vision, 20/20, as they say. It just takes a minute or two to take a life-threatening decision. May this happen to fewer people. What a waste of a productive life. And, in the meantime, may we have the wisdom to build those structures that minimise the needless waste of such lives! Condolences to the young man's family. It could have also been any of ours! FN __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
[Goanet] Goa Scholarship Programme for Diaspora Children (GSPDC).
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:01:20 + To: carmosa...@hotmail.com; From: commissionernri_...@rediffmail.com In continuation of my email dated 4th August 2009 on the above subject, I am pleased to inform you that the time limits laid down in the above Scheme have been extended by one month for the benefit of wards of PIOs and NRIs of Goan origin who are desirous of pursuing under graduate studies in professional and general courses in Institutions affiliated to the Goa University or the Goa Board of Technical Education, as under: 1. Receipt of application forms --- September 30, 2009. 2. Date of written examination --- October 12, 2009. 3. Declaration of result of examination --- October 30, 2009. 4. Announcement of recipient of scholarship--- November 12, 2009 . You are requested to bring to the notice of the Members of your Associations about the new dates for submission of applications, dates of written examination, declaration of result and announcement of beneficiaries of Scholarship. With regards, Sd/- (U. D. Kamat) Director for NRI Afairs Government of Goa _ Log on to MSN India for a lowdown on what’s hot in the world today http://in.msn.com
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam ’
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com More likely chirputam ... - Original Message From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 4:49:17 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam’ RESPONSE: I think it is the same thing we get here in the shops called Cape Gooseberrys. I think when I was very young my first trip to Goa, I had eaten it. It was called chitpuram? __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at M iramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Our ancestors, who experienced such mishaps, left us a Konkani adage: “Udka lagim ani ujea lagim khell manddinaka.” (Don’t play with water and fire.) Both are dangerous and can take away your life! Moi-mogan, Domnic FernandesAnjuna, GoaMob: 9420979201 I have been taught by my parents (and my father was a good swimmer in his days) to treat the sea with respect, and never take chances. It sometimes appears that most people who have never seen the sea think of it as a large swimming pool, not knowing it can be treacherous what with waves and creatures that it can harbour, like jellyfish. _ Log on to MSN India for a lowdown on what’s hot in the world today http://in.msn.com
[Goanet] snt102-w41c7eb39e746fa98ea2c45b1...@phx.gbl
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I think Alfred meant to say Physalis for Chirputtam, instead of Chrysalis. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser
Re: [Goanet] Camoes on Kerala
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Is this what you were searching for: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/1416170589/ 2009/8/18 Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au: Perhaps the statue to Luis de Camões that once stood at Old Goa could be sent to Kerala along with the pedestal on which it originally stood and tells a story. BTW, where is the statue now? -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
[Goanet] Dalit Christian condemd U S Commission in India for watch list
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com POOR CHRISTIAN LIBERATION MOVEMENT (PCLM) Office: 74, 1B, Sector – 2, Kali Bari Marg, New Delhi – 110 001 Telefax: 0120-4569139 Email: francisp...@yahoo.com www.Dalitchristian.com PRESS RELEASE Dalit Christian condemd U S Commission in India for watch list New Delhi, August 18, 2009: Dalit Christian organization poor Christian liberation movement (PCLM) condemn “United States Commission on International religious freedom (USCIRF)” who has kept India regarding minorities communities especially Indian Christians who are kept in the watch list. National President Mr. R. L. Francis says that Indian church leaders are misleading western countries regarding India. Indian Christians are safe in India except few incidents. PCLM says that church leaders should study the report of Justic S.C.Mahapatra’s regarding Kandmal, Orissa. Fr. Willam Premdass Chaudhary, catholic priest of Delhi catholic Archdiocess, condemn violence at kandhmal, orissa‘s incident in which many people lost their lives, houses were burnt, churches and institutions were destroyed. Church leaders should go to the root cause that why the incident took place in the kandmal. Church leaders received funds from India and abroad should reach the people. Churches first and for most must solve the out standing problem of Dalit Christians who are suffering since many centuries especially in south India. Castiesm in Christianity is a serious problem and it is a crime. Churches are not bother to solve the problem of castiesm which is existing since 2000 years, from the begging of Christianity came to India. Why churches are silent about it?
Re: [Goanet] HOW MANY AND WHO ARE THE UNINSURED IN THE US Misrepresentations of the views of others
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca I like your input because it has the numbers that back up the facts. Mario responds: The REAL facts are that there is a vast difference between the 47 million people who don't have health insurance at any given point in time and the 15 million or so who cannot get insurance because of no fault of their own. These are the Americans who are hard core uninsurables who need help and should get it as was outlined in: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html Mervyn wrote: Lastly, US residents who do not have medical insurance are in that situation because they CANNOT obtain the insurance. In contrast, every person in Ontario gets free health coverage when they arrive. This is regardless of whether they have contributed to the tax system or not. Mario responds: Here is what these residents in Ontario get, for free: http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/10/24/13988.aspx Here is what is REALLY happening across Canada: http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jbjzPEY0Y3bvRD335rGu_Z3KXoQw This is what Dr. Ann Doig, the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, had to say, We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize, The Goan Canadians who have posted gushing/angry/defensive posts recently about the Canadian health care system sound like the Canadians Dr. Doig is referring to when she says, ...things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize. Goanetters should remember these reports when they see suggestions that the American system, which has enough problems of its own, albeit solvable problems of insurance coverage for 5% of its citizens, needs to copy the struggling Canadian system where things are precarious. While the Canadian government-run system obviously helps many people much of the time, especially when they are well, if they get a serious illness needing sophisticated tests and procedures they end up on waiting lists controlled by government bureaucrats because their system does not have adequate capabilities to treat everyone immediately. These inadequate capabilities is one major reason why their system costs less. In return for the lower cost they get rationed care. On the other hand, every resident in the expensive US system has access to emergency medical treatments at no cost, WITH NO WAITING LISTS, even if they cannot afford to pay or have no health insurance. However a better solution must be worked out for the 15 million or so uninsurables. Helping those who cannot help themselves is a legitimate and good use of the fruits of capitalism and the free market system. My preference would be for a free market private industry solution with tax incentives to handle the additional financial risk but avoid the inefficiencies inherent in any government run system.
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ‘Chipttam ’
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com 2009/8/18 Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au More likely chirputam ... RESPONSE: Yeah, that's it - did a deliberate mis-spelling for you and Alfred to correct! Here is an image of what we get in London and perhaps also in Stocholm. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/cape_gooseberry4.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/cape_gooseberry.htmusg=__7aldYUF6rBzONw9lbF0YMapuqI8=h=564w=650sz=136hl=enstart=10um=1tbnid=zaf1Z1gjrmLPgM:tbnh=119tbnw=137prev=/images%3Fq%3DCape%2Bgooseberries%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3D3Nl%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1 -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] First Dead Anniversary - Bartholomeu (Romeo) D'Souza
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com FIRST DEATH ANNIVERSARY IN LOVING MEMORY OF BARTHOLOMEU ( ROMEO ) D’SOUZA (SANQUELIM - GOA ) Born: 24/08/1952 Died: 22/08/2008 There will be an Eucharistic celebration for the soul of our beloved BARTHOLOMEU ( ROMEO ) D’SOUZA on Friday , 21st August 2009 at St. Daniel Comboni Mission (Rhythm Community Hall ) Abbasiyah - Kuwait @ 7.50 a.m. Offered by: Laurence Miranda Friends Relatives Friends kindly accept this as the only intimation.
Re: [Goanet] Solving Healthcare crisis in America - Part IV
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Congratulations on a well-argued position on health care! Are you the commentator Rad21 on the Huffington Post blog by any chance? Many of the ideas you express, and the statements you make are verbatim from his comments. Please see: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/rad21?action=comments Mario observes: Santosh, I don't know about Rad21, but the Huffington Post has been Gilbert's favorite, if not only, source of information for quite some time now. I guess I may have to wait until Rad21 addresses the question I raised about whether forcing the private insurance companies to accept patients with pre-existing conditions, which would be like buying auto insurance after an accident, will effectively put them out of business: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181613.html Excerpt: Hey, Gilbert, If the government imposes an elimination of restrictions like pre-existing illness and demands guaranteed choice of coverage, why would people not wait until they had a serious illness before demanding to be insured, and paying for their own coughs and colds in the meantime? And what would that do to the actuarial estimates upon which sound insurance policies are based? Aren't such impositions a transparent method of putting private insurance companies out of business? [end of excerpt] Gilbert wrote: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181676.html Excerpt: The 47 million uninsured (27% of the population under age 65) Mario responds: This 47 million number of uninsured was clearly shown to be a gross exaggeration by far left wing demagogues of whom American taxpayers really need to use common sense and logic in helping. The actual number who cannot get health insurance through no fault of their own is more like 15 million which is 5% of all Americans: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html Gilbert wrote: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html Excerpt: the AMA has officially endorsed President Obama's efforts and other participants have promised cooperation. [end of excerpt] Mario responds: A dirty little secret is that Obama has no plan. He is riding on the coat-tails of plans being developed by the House and Senate while pushing for more government intervention in the health care system, some of which he is now backing away from. Thus, endorsing Obama's efforts is not the same as endorsing any specific plan, just a pious platitude: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26158.html Gilbert wrote: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html Short-term, significant savings (i.e no additional dollars needed) can be achieved Mario responds: Perhaps if Gilbert were able to convince Obama to dump his knee-jerk ideology that the government can solve this issue instead of coordinating an effort to find a solution, we may get short term savings:-)) Unfortunately, the House plan that has been scored by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says that the effect on the federal deficit will be $1.042 trillion over “ten years”, though the program really gets going in 2015 so its more like a 5 year score. I hope Gilbert and his cronies caught this little detail: THE PROGRAM REALLY GETS GOING IN 2015, SO THE FINANCIAL DAMAGE WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER OBAMA LEAVES OFFICE. YET HE WAS PUSHING FOR PASSAGE BY THE END OF JULY BEFORE ANYONE HAD HAD TIME TO EVEN READ ANY OF THE PROPOSALS BY SAYING THAT THIS LEGISLATION WAS SUPER-URGENT.
[Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Hi Bosco, Rather than writing 4 to 5 goanet posts a day, and cause Goanet moderators some pirachit, the reactionary post-master should do some reading. But not the Palin twitter messages! Perhaps the right-winger should read the following post GOPs misplaced rage by a leading conservative economist. Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:51:12 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181824.html Gilbert, I hope you are not reading amcho Mario's 4 to 5 fugotios per day, 5 days a week. If you are, I say, get rid of your pirachit. Dont you have anything more important to do like average people? Kitem re?? Mario is so predictable that you can pick any of his msgs, write a one-liner and get him to write a Pee-Etch-Dee thesis in response. Usually he is not coherent. This is email afterall. Costs zilch like his source for news, Pajamas TV. If he had to print and send his posts, we would never hear from him; as a true conservative, he would be conservative with his moolah too. Mind you, sometimes, by Friday he is contradicting what he wrote on Monday, or totally strayed from the thread, etc, etcand with the weekend break..total amnesia!!! Mario observes: We recently saw posts by Roland Francis and Jose Colaco chiding a Goanetter for making some vicious personal comments instead of sticking to making points and counter points on the topic itself. In the post by Bosco identified above and the comment he has highlighted by Gilbert, we see that tendency once again, where there is no attempt to address any points made on a contentious subject, just a deliberate attempt to personally ridicule someone they apparently disagree with but are unable to rebut with any real facts or opinions.
Re: [Goanet] HOW MANY AND WHO ARE THE UNINSURED IN THE US Misrepresentations of the views of others
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Mervyn Lobo: Yes, as you may have seen/read, the Health Care Reform Bill has become loudly Palin'ized with non-sense and untruths about federal funded abortions, euthanasia and extending coverage to illegal immigrants. HR3200 makes no such provisions, you see. One hopes that sometime in the future the What's in it for me? will change to What is the fairest way to ensure that all of us have our basic health care needs met? 60 million Americans are projected to be uninsured by 2011. I. Nunes --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: [Goanet] HOW MANY AND WHO ARE THE UNINSURED IN THE US Misrepresentations of the views of others To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 7:34 PM - BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall, near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com - lyrawmn wrote: The information in M. Goveia post is severely at variance with what has been published. I. Nunes, Our Mario Goveia acknowledges that he is a 'lone voice. His input here, has all the value loners have. Secondly, I like your input because it has the numbers that back up the facts. Lastly, US residents who do not have medical insurance are in that situation because they CANNOT obtain the insurance. In contrast, every person in Ontario gets free health coverage when they arrive. This is regardless of whether they have contributed to the tax system or not. Canada is a wealthy country. The US is borrowing and printing money in order to run basic govt services. Mervyn1650Lobo __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: [Goanet] The Pope's moral blunders on outsourcing
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com From: Frederick [FN] Noronha I don't think the Church has a job in supporting capitalism, moderate or otherwise. There was a time when the Church also made the mistake of thinking it could ride the tigers of colonialism and slavery. History proved it wrong. FN Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:48:11 -0700 From: isouza icso...@sancharnet.in Regarding colonialism and slavery: The Church always opposed racial slavery. Mario observes: Since most slavery throughout history was not racial but misguided economics, I wonder why the Church always opposed only racial slavery. Fred, whose favorite philosopher is Karl Marx whose anti-capitalist theories were antithetical to religion and religious freedom, writes that he doesn't think the Church has a job in supporting capitalism. Does Fred think the Vatican is surviving on donations from the wilting fruits of socialism? The Vatican should stay the heck out of economics because it is simply not its job. Even the Bible distinguished between God and Shiv..., ...er, Caesar. However, as part of its legitimate role in promoting religion, religious freedom, political freedom, maximizing one's natural gifts as the Bible teaches, and providing a better quality of life for the downtrodden, if the Vatican supports anything it should be supporting capitalism for three reasons: a) The more capitalist the country the better the quality of life for more people most of the time than any other system yet devised, while also preserving political freedoms for its citizens. b) Capitalist leaning countries also have guarantees of religious freedom, or the freedom to not follow any particular religion. c) The citizens of capitalist leaning countries provide the Vatican with a cushy lifestyle and clerics in general with most of the income that enables them to do whatever they do.
[Goanet] On Goanet: Now it's the fringe groups... (summary of Goanet posts by Selma Carvalho)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho Hardly a week seems to pass by in Goa where our democratic freedoms are not under threat. We had barely waved goodbye to the debacle caused by the Speaker of the Assembly in threatening journalists, when right-wing groups have now reared their ugly heads to demand the withdrawal of a painting by renowned painter M F Hussain and to shut down an exhibition by Dr Kerkar. Here are some views expressed on this situation: V. M de Malar http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181635.html Sandeep Heble: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181813.html Vidyadhar Gadgil: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181819.html Vidyadhar Gadgil, sent in an article called “How the NRI has fallen from grace,” by Swapna Dasgupta. Why Indians in India continue to malign the NRI is beyond me. Perhaps we should learn from the Chinese who embrace their expatriates rather than feel some compulsion to vilify them. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181778.html Venatius Pinto shares some thoughts on the subject: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181788.html One interesting news item to catch everyone’s attention was the detention of Indian Bollywood actor, Shah Rukh Khan by immigration officials in America. Floriano Lobo gives us his comments on this incident. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181780.html Selma Carvalho wonders why the Goan posro died a premature death at least in the Diaspora. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181757.html With all the hullabaloo over right-wing extremist groups, what gets lost is the wanton destruction of Goa’s environment and the efforts of valiant soldiers like Sebastian Rodrigues who take on this battle. Here are details of forest cover destruction in Colomb. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181730.html Freddy Fernandes on Independence Days sent in an essay on India being sixty-two and still running on fractured legs. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181735.html Lino Dourado gives us his Aitaracheo Katkutleo:Samballun Nango Ghalcho http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181712.html Valmiki Faleiro continues his series on Goan emigration. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181705.html An article by Frederick Noronha on the Question of Privilege referring to the recent episode in the Assembly which brought to the fore questions about freedom of speech. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181607.html Keeping with the same topic Cecil Pinto asks, Quo Vadis Mr Speaker? http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181589.html An incisive article by Jason Keith Fernandes on the recent amendments to the Panchayat Raj, which in some measure takes grass-roots power away from the people. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181584.html Finally Goans spread across the globe have been celebrating World Goa Day in the month of May. Here are some snapshots of these celebrations: Dubai: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181280.html Bangalore: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181557.html Melbourne, Australia: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181536.html London, UK: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181707.html Join in the discussions by posting your comments to: goa...@goanet.org Anyone can join the discussions, provided you follow the groundrules. Goanet, 15 years old this month. See archives at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/
Re: [Goanet] WHY? Goa Scholarship Programme for Diaspora Children (GSPDC).
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Mr. U. D. Kamat, NRI Affairs Government of Goa Dear Director Kamat, I am curious. Why are Diaspora children, and not resident Goan children, eligible for this scholarship program, and similar others? Why are these individuals already at an economic advantage, being given further privileges not open to resident Goans? Resident Goans, after all pay taxes, put up with corrupt elected politicians, substandard and often lacking public services, all the while heroically upholding the culture and ethos of Goa. Their children should be the prime beneficiaries of this largess, don't you think? Please correct me if I am wrong. Sincerely, I. Nunes --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Santos Carmo carmosa...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Santos Carmo carmosa...@hotmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Goa Scholarship Programme for Diaspora Children (GSPDC). To: goaworldto...@gmail.com Cc: goa...@goanet.org Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 6:06 AM Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:01:20 + To: carmosa...@hotmail.com; From: commissionernri_...@rediffmail.com In continuation of my email dated 4th August 2009 on the above subject, I am pleased to inform you that the time limits laid down in the above Scheme have been extended by one month for the benefit of wards of PIOs and NRIs of Goan origin who are desirous of pursuing under graduate studies in professional and general courses in Institutions affiliated to the Goa University or the Goa Board of Technical Education, as under: 1. Receipt of application forms --- September 30, 2009. 2. Date of written examination --- October 12, 2009. 3. Declaration of result of examination --- October 30, 2009. 4. Announcement of recipient of scholarship--- November 12, 2009 . You are requested to bring to the notice of the Members of your Associations about the new dates for submission of applications, dates of written examination, declaration of result and announcement of beneficiaries of Scholarship. With regards, Sd/- (U. D. Kamat) Director for NRI Afairs Government of Goa _ Log on to MSN India for a lowdown on what’s hot in the world today http://in.msn.com
[Goanet] One who soars too high, drowns
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I believe the first one has been mistranslated. Chodd uddta, to buddta One who soars too high, drowns As long as one is soaring but not rubbishing others, or scoffing at them from their higher perch/vantage -- the question of falling, drowning does not come up. Chodd uddta is akin to being uppity, arrogant -- the buddta, to do with the fall. So its if a bird flies on high, and across water, the chances of getting back are slim. On the last one, Goans seem to have had a peculiar concern with filling their stomachs. And many proverbs as well as axioms attest to this attitude. In the proud traditions of Japan, the samurai, even if he had not had a meal would clean his teeth with a toothpick. The point being that as a warrior one did not bend ones head or collapse ones being in hunger. venantius Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:46:39 +0530 From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org Subject: [Goanet] One who soars too high, drowns From Valmiki Faleiro's valmi...@gmail.com collection of Konkani adages, axioms, maxims, idioms and proverbs tChodd uddta, to buddta One who soars too high, drowns Dant koroilear, pott bhorona Grinding teeth will not fill your stomach [Now, 400 members on the Facebook group. See below, and share your comments, etc.--FN] -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/ --
[Goanet] MMs: Mario, Medicare and Marxism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia The economically weakest nations, like Zimbabwe and many other African nations, many Latin American nations, and Cuba and N. Korea, are economic basket cases because of their own corruption, oppression and incompetent internal policies which assume that a small number of powerful elites know what's good for everyone else, better than they do. From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com : #1) What has Zimbabwe, N. Korea, etc have to do with the Pope in this instance? Or even Aiyar-ji for that matter. #2) I suppose the 'powerful elites' referred to above also include the avaricious pinheads on Wall Street who have sucked trillions of dollars of the tax-payers dollars. #3) Weeks later, Aiyar-ji continues to confound Mario-G. Kamaal hai!! Bosco, Don't you know, Mario is the resident expert and sole voice of truth - even in things he knows nothing about. He seems to be particularly knowledgeable about: i) Popes: His now famous claim that Pope John Paul was sympathetic to Al Qaieda because of the Pope's opposition to the Iraq war. His latest implication that the current Pope is a Marxist is a nice one too! Come to think of it, is there anyone on Goanet who he has not accused of being a Marxist! ii) Global Cooling: His many posts on goanet claiming that the planet was actually growing cooler (which he has recently retracted). iii) The evils of socialized medicine for others, while he himself has milked the US socialized medical system and made unhealthy lifestyle choices to boot. iv) The US economy is sound and strongest in the world - just before the economic collapse last year! As the saying goes, the truth hurts. Marlon
[Goanet] (no subject)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com In response to: Message: 10 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: percy ferrao percyfer...@yahoo.com http://f5mail.rediff.com/prism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individualemail=percyfe r...@yahoo.comels=160f0dbf18a5a2277495ab8cfb865df0 Subject: [Goanet] (no subject) Most certainly, well said Percy, Nobody is about National Security, and just because India does not give a shit about it's security that does not mean others too, have to do the same. America has learnt a lesson in 9/11, which just didn't shake the pants off the Americans, it shook the whole world and has anything else has happened in America, since then ? No, because they treat National Security as above one and all. How many lessons does India need, to boost up it's National Security, surely 9/11 wasn't enough because we let 11/26 happen and we have still not learnt. The Ex-President Hon. Mr Kalam did not utter a word when he was subjected to the search despite the privileges he carried, and who is SRK to object to it, he may be an icon in India but to America, he just an ordinary Indian or world citizen, should the world have two types of security checks, one for the elite and one for the common man ? Can't the elite be used by terrorists through blackmail or threat to family, to do the needful. People, wake up to the reality of world terrorism, no body, absolutely no body is above the law or above National Security. SRK could have done well to zip his lips and adhere to the security code and not make it a religious issue, it is indeed wrong to target a particular religion but try to see the prospective from Americas point of view, with the nightmares of 9/11 they could be seeing OBL in every one that enters their country, are they left with any choice ? Or can they ever afford to relax ? The Indian Authorities instead of tying themselves in knots over the issue should learn from their counterparts in the USA and clean up their act and do like wise where National Security is concerned. Just a couple of days back there were reports that an elite member of Goa's ministry used the guards at the Selaulim Dam as punching bags just because they did not allow his relatives to enter a sensitive area of the dam ? Is this expected of the Americans too ? Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ?Chipttam?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I came across a similar fruit in the supermarket but orange in colour when ripe. It belongs to the genus Physalis and commercially also know by the same name but nowhere near our chipttam (in salcette, we call them chiputtan) where taste is concerned. Blasio Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photo: We call it ?Chipttam? To: goa...@goanet.org Message-ID: 267096.31024...@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We call it ?Chipttam? ? When matured or ripped, these are edible and I ate plenty. Edible part inside is round shape, about ?the size of Green Peas They grow well in the fields. You don?t to plant or grow them they grow just like ?that e.g. villages, bushes, fields etc They may grow around the same place year after year.
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Mario observes: In the post by Bosco identified above and the comment he has highlighted by Gilbert, we see that tendency once again, where there is no attempt to address any points made on a contentious subject, just a deliberate attempt to personally ridicule someone they apparently disagree with but are unable to rebut with any real facts or opinions. RESPONSE: Folks, please excuse Mario. His corn is hurting now that the shoe is on the other foot. As we can see, he cannot take it like he gives it. Arre Mariodont become fugar and play to the audience. This is no tiatr. As Russell Peters says - Be a man!! Oh! And try to stick to the topic at hand. For an example of a 'contentious subject' you seek, explain: What has Zimbabwe, N. Korea, etc have to do with the Pope in this instance? Or even Aiyar-ji for that matter. [1] As far as personal ridicule is concerned, the ball is in your court. You will be addressed the way you address others. Samja kya?? If your posts are on the topic at hand without any smears and gratuituous comments, you will receive responses on the topic at hand. If you errwell thenas you sow so shall you reap!!! - B [1] http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181825.html
[Goanet] Let's go fishing: This is called 'Hunttanni'
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I thk what you are referring to here is also called honni (in some parts of salcette). Some of the Other Traditional ?fishing methords are: Zanzall Balo marop (for big fish when it strays into shallow waters) Poshenk (using bare hands) however, this word is also used in different context. Blasio Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Let's go fishing: This is called 'Hunttanni' To: goa...@goanet.org Message-ID: 20599.42316...@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Let's go fishing: This is called 'Hunttanni'? ? Another type of?traditional fishing This is something new to me, I mean say about 15 years. This type of fishing activities usually seen in the river where there is a low/high tide. ? At Agassaim, they fetch a good catch (fish). I have never witnessed it but we do buy fish from the boys. Again, they (boys) go in the middle of the night say around 3pm, I guess they get fish by stealing from the net/hunttanni?? As we used to steal fish from the 'raponn' net. ? The real Ranponn net is not seen nowadays.? Mechanised trawllers and other motorised fishing boats to blame? ? We use to go to 'Rampnnikodde' at Arossim, Cansaulim, Velsao, Daddo etc Popular Ramponnkar at that time were -Zambllikar (Trio King Antony relative?), Santan 9from Vasco), Pidade (Joekim, Sacramenta Building Cansaulim) etc ? Raponn khuim dovorlia? Surgam Rukakodde (near Casuarina trees) near Horizon hotel. Tamdde Rosteakodde (now main tarred?road to Velsao Beach) Santna-ghe Kuddikode (Kudd means a big and along hut/house which used to house the big/large boat (Rampnni Voddem) during mansoon and the permannat workers who worked for Ramponnkars, mainly Goans) ?
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Books in Goa: promises and perils of publishing (FN, in Goa Today)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Books in Goa: promises and perils of publishing By Frederick Noronha [For Goa Today] Selma Carvalho spent part of her Goa holiday trying to finish a book dealing with stories of Goan migration. The UK-based mother of a three-year-old believes her work has inputs that could help Goans better understand their own complex reality. Carvalho is one of a growing trend of writers bringing Goa-centric work to the fore. An increasing number of books on Goa is getting into print, here and elsewhere. Goa, the size of an average Indian district, has an amazing set of numbers on its side. Outside of the metros, it is probably the most intensely published region nationwide, given its size. Each year, between 200 to 250 books are being published in Goa alone. Out of these, about 70% are in Konkani, notes Central Library curator Carlos Fernandes. Fernandes, a soft-spoken man with a reputation for his quiet efficiency, sits at the helm of the oldest public library in South Asia. The Central Library was set up as the Publica Livraria in 1832, but has been overtaken by the metros across India. Formerly with the Goa Engineering College, Fernandes believes that good writers can help sell books in a world where a market exists and technology has made things simple -- you can layout a book on your desktop computer at home. The trickle is turning into a flood. Old-timers remember the situation in the 1980s, when there would be just a handful of Goa-related books visible at exhibitions and sales. Today, there are literally dozens, if not a few hundred books on Goa in print. That is, if you know where to find them. Goa is in a unique situation, avers Vivek Menezes, a Goan expat who returned home while in his 30s. He has published two books, that offer overviews of music and art in Goa. Yet the market is ridiculed. People make false assumptions about Goa. His suggestion is that much more is possible. Miramar-based Menezes, who can be often found in the mornings working hard at writing from his office near Panjim's municipal garden, sees Goa as a potentially large and lucrative market. He points to the tourist purchases of local books. Besides, Goa is on top of the national food-chain in terms of interest and visibility. Menezes argues: You have all the ingredients in place for huge growth; but we're told that Goa is too small and cannot sustain! We have a huge captive audience. In the last two to three years, due to the presence of (top national writers like) Amitav Ghosh (who have homes in Goa), the writing community is also getting built up. * * * Simultaneously, the market for Goa books has opened up in recent years. This is not to say that everything is gung-ho. There are big challenges; but opportunity is now felt more strongly than ever before. Outlets are coming up in Goa, in a shape and size that marks a dramatic departure from the conservative, play-it-safe past. Peter Nazareth, the editor of an anthology of Goan writing (Goan Literature: A Modern Reader, Journal of South Asian Literature Winter-Spring 1983) was surprised on encountering online videos about a couple of bookstores in Goa. He wrote: I am astounded! They look like very good bookstores with many, many books. (One belonging to Khalil Ahmed) looks as good as the best bookstore in Iowa City, which is the city of writing in the US. Broadway at Sant Inez in Panjim was set up by Khalil Ahmed, who decades back looked after the Goa market while working for major publishers in New Delhi. Today, Broadway is into publishing too, and has earned a reputation for its special counters that offer books at bargain prices. Khalil Ahmed runs it with son Faheem, in his twenties. Besides this, there are others like the Coutinhos of Margao, whose sprawling premises in an old-styled Goan house is in the heart of the city. Located behind the Margao main post office, it is called Golden Heart Emporium. In one room, a number of Goa-related books lie crowded in shelves, vying for the reader's attention. Special 'Goa sections' for local bookshops are a fairly recent trend though. Bookshops that first made their Goa book sections visible included the Other India Bookstore, a charming place almost hidden -- but widely written about in travel guides and known in alternative Indian publishing circles -- above the old Mapusa
[Goanet] Goa news for August 19, 2009
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Re: [Goanet] Photos from the World Goa Day celebration
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[Goanet] Talking photo: About ‘Xit, xita-ad on, Bhurkulo, Kurponn-Mandd, Sant, Kottumbo, Kodem, Niunnem, Dhonn or Khann, Pendd(i), Kunddo, Ducram etc
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[Goanet] The PEN All-India Centre: Statement condemning repression of cultural practice in Goa
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[Goanet] First Anniversary of 'Goykar'
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[Goanet] A letter to the editor: Shut down Tiatr halls etc
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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (19Aug09)
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[Goanet] Photos from Goa
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[Goanet] Kerkar Art Complex Invite
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[Goanet] Foreign trips aimed to boost ties with emigrants: Eduardo
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[Goanet] HJS claims MLAs support against Subodh
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