[Goanet] Goan Director's Konkani film at the TIFF

[Thalmann Pareira]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Young Goan film director Laxmikant Shetgaonkar's Konkani feature film
"Paltadecho Munis"  ( The Man Beyond The Bridge) has been selected for
screening at the prestigious forthcoming Toronto International Film
Festival-2009, at Toronto ,Canada.

The film is made in the Konkani language and will have English sub-titles
for the festival. It will be screened in the Festival's Discovery (DI)
Section

The Film is based on well-known Goan Konkani writer Mahabaleshwar Sail's
novel.

Laxmikant Shetgaonkar is born and brought up in Goa and lives at Headland
Sada, Vasco-da-Gama, Goa.

The recently completed feature film is one more feather in the cap of young
Laxmikant who had won a National Award for his maiden film which was a
documentary partly in Konkani and partly in Marathi.

Goans in Canada will be privileged to watch an international premiere of a
film in their mother tongue, at a prestigious film festival.

Wishing young Laxmikant all the best,

- Thalmann Pereira, Goa.


http://www.tiff.net/filmsandschedules/films/manbeyondthebridge

[Goanet] A friend sent me this query via Facebook. Could you help?

[Frederick "FN" Noronha]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Frederick, I need English word for 'Shabduli', a little flower which
blossoms generally in monsoon evenings and wilts by morning. It has
mild fragrance and either deep or light pink petals with lightest
yellow stem. The plant is no more than 2 feet high. I have not seen it
in the last many many years in this conctrete jungle called Goa. Can
you help me?

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[Goanet] Solving healthcare cirises

[Gilbert Lawrence]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Based on the first paragraph below:

1. The only reason what Mario does, including writing on Goanet, is not to 
"benefit anyone but themselves."

2. Then the second and third line in the first paragraph below, contradict each 
other.  A close analysis of both statements, is what precisely is wrong with 
the US healthcare. The current system is driven by "financial benefit" instead 
of taking care of the patient and illness, guided by medical science.  
Clearly he does not read my post; or his urgent itch to respond clouds his  
understanding of what he reads.

The second paragraph is a repetition of the sloganeering parroted from the 
right-wing play-book. It is best not dignified by a response, because it is 
both factually wrong and irrelevant to the issues being discussed.  "Research" 
and "Breakthroughs" should be funded through a research budget, rather than 
using patients' healthcare premiums.

Enough comedy for the weekend. 

With my "center-left" posts, I will start posting on Fox News. Any pithy 
pseudonym suggestion welcome.  I encourage other goaneters to do the same.  You 
will do a service to America.  There are some ignorant and crazy posts on Fox 
News.  Surprisingly none are as obnoxious and full of demagogue as we see here. 
Likely those moderators do a better job.
Regards, GL
  
 Mario responded:

What is the incentive for any group of "health care experts" to come up with "a 
plan" to benefit anyone but themselves? People like Gilbert still don't 
understand that the best plan is when every individual in an industry is doing 
what's in their own best interests. This includes the common sense notion that 
others have to be served as well as possible for one's own long term financial 
benefit.

Virtually all the medical and pharmaceutical breakthroughs in the world take 
place in the US precisely because the government hasn't yet stifled their 
incentives by imposing "national health care" controlled by politicians and a 
small army of babus.

- Gilbert wrote:

My solution has been for politicians (and their fellow-travelers) to get out of 
the way. Get some healthcare experts to develop a plan. 


  

[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (22Aug09)

[alexyz fernandes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



***  PROUD  TO  BE  A  GOAN  ***

Rene Barreto - Proud to be Goan

If you did not celebrate World Goa Day on August 20
Do it Today or Tomorrow or...

Viva Goa  *  Cheers


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org

Re: [Goanet] Job volunteer openings for Goan Hindu urchins

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



To Goanet -

As I was composing this photograph of the lovely Anant temple in 
Savoi-Verem on a cool February morning, bhat-mam came by 
and said that the committee is mulling a proposal to convert the 
field (seen in the photograph) into a parking lot. 


Wouldn't this be FIFTY TIMES more vulgar than anything a 
cartoonist can possibly draw? This is death by a thousand cuts. 
Even the Islamic barbarians who flattened thousands of our 
temples were kind enough to do so in one swift stroke. Are 
we going to hear anything from the defenders of Hindu honour 
about this planned atrocity? I suspect no.

http://www.parrikar.org/images/ananttemple-savoiverem.jpg



Inside is the magnificent ancient masterpiece of the reclining 
Vishnu (as Anantshayana), a representative specimen of Goan 
sculpture. I bet they will soon find a way to chuck this out and 
replace it with a tinselly gold-plated idol like the new one in Mangueshi.

http://www.parrikar.org/images/anant-savoiverem.jpg



With all our physical and cultural treasures melting away, this is 
not a Goa worth saving. No wonder the ghatis and others 
streaming in feel right at home.

Also - this cultural mayhem is not exclusive to the Hindus in 
Goa. The Catholics have their own set of woes. Which nutjob 
thought that it was a good idea to turn over the Old Goa 
complex over to the Indian govt?


r



- Original Message 
> From: Rajan P. Parrikar 
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:44:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Job volunteer openings for Goan Hindu urchins
> 
> This is the temple, now flattened -
> 
> http://www.parrikar.org/images/vetaltemple-navelim.jpg
> 
> 
> Vetal-bab inside, au naturel -
> 
> http://www.parrikar.org/images/vetal-navelim.jpg
> 
> At some point I will document all this on my photo blog.
> 
> 
> r
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> > From: Rajan P. Parrikar 
> > To: goa...@goanet.org
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:03:30 PM
> > Subject: Job volunteer openings for Goan Hindu urchins
> > 
> > To Goanet -
> > 
> > A few months back, I was on one of my drives through the Goan 
> > countryside when I passed by a pile of rubble around what was 
> > clearly a torn down structure. It did not register initially but about 
> > 30 seconds later I shrieked to my driver, "Babu, let's go back to 
> > that site!"
> > 
> > We were in Navelim (the one in Bicholim taluka) and the pile of 
> > rubbish was the beautiful old Vetal temple built in traditional style. 
> > It was a sad and shocking scene.  Clearly it had made way for a 
> > 'modern' temple.  No doubt it will be built with PWD & Tata 
> > rubbish technology and painted in garish colours.  Fortunately 
> > I had photographed the old building a year earlier.  This was to 
> > me yet another direct experience of Goa's dismantling in real time.
> > 
> > In Advalpal, the small ancient Maruti temple with beautiful kaavi 
> > artwork lies decrepit.  It is on private property and the mine owner 
> > has been dangling the carrot of 'development' to the temple 
> > custodian. Such instances of neglect can be indefinitely multiplied.
> > 
> > In Savoi-Verem the lush green fields right by the Anant temple - they 
> > want to convert it into a parking lot. A GODDAM PARKING LOT! 
> > Those builders can't keep their hands off even our temples.
> > 
> > The more famous temple complexes - Mangueshi, Ramnathi, 
> > Kavalem - have their own set of issues. The decay has set in. 
> > They look more and more commercial and show less of the 
> > tranquil, spiritual ambience that we took for granted growing
> > up.  What were once open spaces now support hideous clusters 
> > of RCC concrete.
> > 
> > All over India, the idea of the Hindu temple has unraveled - the 
> > once-great ancient temples are today mired in squalid surroundings, 
> > with hustlers, touts and what-have-you.  The Goan Hindu temple 
> > still retains the old charm and quiet.  Soon that will be a thing 
> > of the past given the trendlines.
> > 
> > The upshot - if the thuggish Goan urchins who go about 
> > threatening people to uphold Hindu this & that really wanted 
> > a day-job, there is a mountain of work waiting to be done 
> > right in our backyard.  Have them get in touch with me.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > r

[Goanet] Sea Harrier... another

[Frederick "FN" Noronha]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



A Sea Harrier has crashed...

[Via GoanVoiceUK] Indian navy fighter jet crashes in sea
21 Aug: Times of India. An Indian navy fighter jet crashed into the
Arabian Sea off Goa on Friday, with the pilot presumed dead … The jet,
a British-made Sea Harrier, plummeted into the sea 15 kilometres off
Goa's coast … 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Indian-navy-fighter-jet-crashes-in-sea/articleshow/4918889.cms

A fact-sheet on earlier Sea Harrier crashes:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-December/108649.html

An article, in part dug up using the Right to Information Act:
The Indian Navy's deadly craft: The aircraft have not been used in a
single war, but in the past two decades, 16 out of 31 Harriers have
crashed.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-December/108649.html

This should be a big story for Goa, given that the Sea Harriers are
based here. Unfortunately, it isn't...
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[Goanet] Patriotism, nationalism, scoundrels etc etc

[Samir Kelekar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Re: Patriotism is the last resort of the scoundrel, I think love of the land,
one's peoples is good, in fact super, provided it doesnt result in chauvinism 
and hatred towards others. In fact, patriotism of various people can be a win 
win situation for all.

Check this song from ABBA about freedom which is --- I am told --- inspired by 
the Mexican liberation movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io

Hey, if it helps people in India get inspired towards liberty, why not?

regards,
Samir





  

[Goanet] 'Konknni Bhas' the language of our ancestors!

[Cip Fernandes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If 
you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.
- Nelson Mandela


Cip


  

[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Youth seminar in Margao

[George Pinto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



In connection with our YEAR OF THE YOUTH theme, Goa Sudharop is pleased to 
present a one-day seminar for youth scheduled for 8th September in Margao for 
about 150 college students from colleges in Margao and surrounding South Goa. 

On 12th September there will be another seminar for about 110 college students 
at Cuncolim United College, Cuncolim. And yet one more in Margao for students 
of X, XI and XII classes from Margao and surrounding South institutions (date 
to be announced). Details of these two sub-sequent programmes will follow soon.


YOU…..TH   ARE   THE   SOLUTION
A One-Day seminar for youth on Sept 8, 2009
 
organized by GOA SUDHAROP COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INC. USA
(www.goasudharop.org)

in association with Vidya Vikas Mandal’s
Shree Damodar College of Commerce & Economics, Margao

PROGRAMME
08.45 a.m. – 09.30 a.m. – Registration & Tea/Refreshments
09.30 a.m. – 10.00 a.m. – INAUGURATION 

SESSION I
10.00 a.m. – 11.00 a.m. – MIND YOUR MIND
              (a session on Mind Management)
              Dr. Prahlad, Chinmaya Mission, Margao
SESSION II
11.15 a.m. – 12.15 p.m. – JUST SAY NO
              (A session on Addiction)
                          Dr. Priti Bakre
SESSION III
12.30 p.m. – 1.30 p.m. – INSIDE OUT
             (A session on Personal & Community Values)
                         Fr. Simon, Principal, Rosary College of Arts
                         & Commerce, Navelim
                   
LUNCH BREAK

SESSION IV
2.30 p.m. – 3.30 p.m. – KNOW, GROW & SHOW THE WAY
               (A session on Leadership)
                        Mr. Atul Shah, Director, VVM’s H.M.N. Gaunekar
                        Institute of Management Training & Research

SESSION V
3.45 p.m. – 4.45 p.m. – THE NEW Rs OF EDUCATION
            (A session on Environment Protection)
                         Mr. Clinton Vaz, Environmentalist

5.00 p.m. – 5.30 p.m. – VALEDICTORY PROGRAMME

Re: [Goanet] Indian govt discovers it has balls...

[Domnic Fernandes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



You are right, Rajan.  Every non-Muslim is harassed at the Saudi Arabian 
immigration 
and customs office, but Hindus are indeed singled out because they think they 
are 
'kaafir' - people without a religion.

No idols/religious pictures are allowed into the Kingdom; when found, they are 
dumped in a trash can right under one's nose.

What is shocking is that they don't even respect our Holy Bible. When they come 
across one, it, too, is sent to the trash can!

That's not all, one is further punished by deporting him/her from the airport 
itself.

Usually, agents of good companies give an extensive orientation to new 
employees 
being hired for the Kingdom but many don't do it resulting in harassment and/or 
deportation of new recruits without even entering the country.

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna, Goa
Mob: 09420979201



-Original Message-
From: Rajan P. Parrikar

Hindus are indeed singled out for humiliation BECAUSE
they are Hindus. There have been so many instances
of Hindu idols being confiscated (and perhaps trashed)
by the Saudi immigration authorities. This does not
negate the fact that non-Hindu Indians are also harassed
and humiliated by the Saudis.

[Goanet] Medieval Goa release... a pictoral report

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



From FN, VM and RMN
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157621978256223/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157621978256223/?page=2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157621978256223/?page=3

From Joel D'Souza
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52243...@n00/?saved=1

Also check the Medieval Goa Facebook page below. FN
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[Goanet] TIFF 2009 - Man Beyond the Bridge

[Thalmann Pareira]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



http://www.tiff.net/

Toronto International Film Festival

The Man Beyond the Bridge
Paltadacho Munis

Laxmikant Shetgaonkar

Country: India
Year: 2009
Language: Konkani
Runtime: 96 minutes
Format: Colour/35mm

CREDITS:

Production Company: National Film Development Corporation Limited
Screenplay: Laxmikant Shetgaonkar
Cinematographer: Arup Mandal
Editor: Sankalp Meshram
Sound: Ramchandra Hegde
Music: Debasish Bhattacharjee
Principal Cast: Chitranjan Giri, Veena Jomkar, Prasanthi Talpanker, Vasanth 
Josalkar, Deepak Amonkar


Drawing together a keen environmental sensitivity with a nuanced view of 
village 
dynamics, The Man Beyond the Bridge is a rare find from rural India. Unfolding 
in 
Konkani - a language with no unique script that almost never appears in films - 
this 
is a gentle romance set against the lovely forest setting of Goa's Western 
Ghats.

Vinayak is a forest ranger. His wife has died, leaving him lonely as he patrols 
vast 
areas of protected landscape. One day, he finds a madwoman cowering behind his 
house. He offers her shelter, and slowly, a tentative relationship begins to 
form. 
Each night he leaves out food for her, and each night she returns to eat and 
sleep 
in his yard.

Ignoring the gossip of the nearby village, which casts out anyone with a mental 
illness, Vinayak soon takes the woman into his home, and then into his bed. But 
when 
she becomes pregnant, it is he who risks becoming an outcast.

Director Laxmikant Shetgaonkar tells his tale with grace and attentiveness. 
Immersed 
in the culture of the region, he takes village traditions and beliefs 
seriously, 
while casting a jaundiced eye on those who exploit them. A subplot introduces a 
village headman who plans to build a temple on forest land in a crass bid for 
election. It's Vinayak's duty to oppose the construction, but the headman has 
key 
villagers in his pocket, including thieves who steal forest wood to build the 
temple, and even the priest who could legitimize the union of Vinayak and his 
new 
love.

Far from the sensory overload of India's big cities, The Man Beyond the Bridge 
satisfies itself with exploring smaller but enduring dilemmas. What liberties 
can be 
taken with a natural environment by those entrusted to protect it? Is a man who 
marries a madwoman helping her or taking advantage? Shetgaonkar takes up these 
questions with humility and heart, finding an apt metaphor in a delicate rope 
bridge 
that links the wild forest to the so-called civilization of the village.

Cameron Bailey

***


Laxmikant Shetgaonkar was born in Goa, India. He studied theatre arts and began 
his 
career as an acting instructor at the National School of Drama in New Delhi. He 
has 
directed several theatre productions, as well as both documentary and fiction 
films. 
His films include A Seaside Story (05) and The Man Beyond the Bridge (09).


***


http://www.tiff.net/filmsandschedules/films/manbeyondthebridge

[Goanet] Goa news for August 22, 2009

[Goanet News Service]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



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*** 'Tortured' Briton's appeal hope - BBC News
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Re: [Goanet] Who is REALLY running India

[Tony de Sa]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



>Did you see Tony's "intelligent" comment above?  He couldn't rebut anything
specific in my post, so he throws a grenade and runs.
(Mario Goveia)

Really brilliant. Claims to 'intelligence' I have never made. After all, I
was the original class duffer!

I have not chosen to rebut any thing posted by the cut and paste and forward
artist because this is typically the stuff one would find forwarded by some
Mallu.

BTW, I thought that Goanet was a GOAN forum. I suppose the Mallus have their
own forum.

Suggestion:  Mallu lovers can take a hike from goanet and join the Mallu
forum.

Call this crab mentality or lobster mentality or what you may
-- 
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M: +91 9975162897
E:  tonyd...@gmail.com

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
Wm Shakespeare

[Goanet] More maniacal misrepresentations from Marlon

[Mario Goveia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: marlon menezes 

Sorry to be bringing up a red herring, or should I say a red flag, but Kerala 
also just happens to have had a communist led alliance leading it for the past 
few decades. Kerala has very high government spending, specially on social 
programs - quite the antithesis to Mario's supposedly free market credentials. 
Its per capita income is far below that of Goa's and for its large size has 
very little industry to speak of. Among the large Indian states, it has the 
largest percentage of its working population working as migrants in other parts 
of the country and the world. Luckily, Mario does not have to travel very far 
to enjoy such a socialist paradise. Fidel Castro's Cuba is only a few hours 
away from him. Kerala is the Cuba of India.

Mario observes:

After three posts in less than two weeks that proved with documented evidence 
Marlon's deliberate maniacal misrepresentations and/or inability to comprehend 
what others had written, for him to move to red herrings has to be a marked 
improvement.

And a monster red herring it is, as we can see from his comments above.  

If anyone can find some connection between these comments and the list of 
Keralites in the following post, I would like to know.  However, Marlon's 
attempts to tear others down to try and get some traction and attention seems 
to have survived the indictment of his veracity:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181949.html

Marlon wrote:

More recently, he was stating that the US medical system was the best in the 
world while he bashed those of Canada and Britain. But oops, now he admits that 
the medical system in the US is actually bankrupt. Global cooling or is it 
global warming now?? 

Mario observes:

Ooops!  I may have spoken too soon.  Here we see that exposing Marlon's 
previous series of falsehoods has not stopped him from writing even more of 
them.

Those who have read these exchanges would know that we have caught Marlon in 
yet another falsehood, that I said the medical system "in the US is actually 
bankrupt".

If his lack of veracity were not chronic he would know that a) there is no one 
"medical system" in the US, and b) The Medicare system I said was going 
bankrupt is not projected to go bankrupt until 2017, which is precisely why we 
need to quit these government-run systems that the inexperienced and 
incompetent candidate Marlon helped elect is pushing.

Oh, we slso see that he is continuing to repeat his falsehood about global 
cooling or warming, which I showed was false in the last expose of his serial 
falsehoods:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181896.html

But since Marlon brought up the subject and seems woefully uninformed about it, 
perhaps the following new article may bring him up to date:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/74019.html

Marlon wrote:

Apparently, Mario thinks, we Goans are unique in electing bad politicians and 
choosing bad bureaucrats as well.

Mario responds:

Yet another falsehood, and, amazingly, somehow triggered by a list of high 
achieving Keralites.

Of course, in his confused condition he may have no way of knowing that I have 
probably been the only one on Goanet who has told Goanetters not to obsess over 
Goa because the entire country suffers from political corruption.

Marlon wrote:

Comedic relief is always welcome on goanet.

Mario responds:

Your falsehoods may have been comic at one time, Marlon, but after so many 
documented exposes, they are simply boring.

It looks more and more like we have a pathological condition on our hands that 
sadly may be chronic.  If there are any physicians who deal in such conditions 
they may want to take a look at what is going on.

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:20:54 +0530
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *  

Actually, Kerala had the first democratically elected Communist
government in the world, in 1957. Since then, it has been alternating
in the parties it selected to rule the State.

Incidentally, given the way parties have evolved over the years, it
would not be wrong to say that the CPI(M) in India, despite their
label, is today more of a social-democratic party. 

Mario responds:

Fred, now you are citing facts, which will simply confuse Marlon, who has 
concocted his diatribe about Kerala mostly out of whole cloth and obsolete 
information, and all triggered by a list of Keralites who had achieved some 
impressive positions.  Pretty amazing illustration of the Goan 

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[Con Menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



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[Con Menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




Rescuing your deleted digital photo procedure.

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[Goanet] First Swine Flu workshop by IndologyGoa at Goa Science centre on September 1

[SHRIKANT BARVE]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



First Swine Flu workshop by IndologyGoa at Goa Science centre on September 1

 

Indology Goa in association the Goa Science Centre will organise the first full 
day workshop in Goa on Swine Flu Awareness and Prevention to prevent the Swine 
Flu pandemic and to spread awareness about this deadly virus and preventive 
measures to be taken in the event of such an outbreak, on Tuesday, September 1, 
2009 from 9.30 am to 4 pm at the Goa Science Centre, Miramar, Panaji.

 

Dr. Anjali Rao, Chairperson, IndologyGoa said in a press release that “With the 
forthcoming festive season, thinking that Goa is a safe tourist destination, it 
is quite likely that all unsuspecting virus-infected tourists from all over the 
nation will  gate-crash Goa as usual to find respite in this beach paradise of 
the country. This will eventually pose a grave danger to the life and economy 
of this state, converting it ultimately into the second epicenter of the Swine- 
Flu Pandemic, after Pune City in Maharashtra, added Dr. Rao.

 

In this workshop, medical experts from the field of Allopathy, Ayurveda, 
Homeopathy and Yoga will be invited to guide citizens. Dr. Rajendra Tamba 
associated with Directorate of Health services, and a faculty for National 
level training program for World Health Organisation (WHO) on pandemic 
preparedness will address the workshop on preventive measures to be taken to 
control the Swine Flue outbreak. Other experts who will guide the participants 
in the workshop are Asst. Prof. Dr Anjali Chodnekar, Shri Kamaxidevi 
Homeopathic Medical College & Hospital,  Shiroda; world renowned Ayurveda 
practitioner from Gomantak Ayurveda Mahavidyalay and Research Centre, Shiroda 
Dr. Neelesh Korde, Yoga Expert Dr. Balanandacharya from Tapobhoomi Yoga Kendra, 
Ponda as well as the Nodal Officer for the Swine Flu in Goa. India’s leading 
Diagnostic product manufacturer Tulip Group of companies, Magsons Super Centre, 
Miramar and Series of Health organisations will be the
 leading campaign partner for this social awareness campaign, said a press 
release issued by Atmaram Barve, General Secretary, Indology Goa and the 
convener of the workshop..

 

Considering the limited capacity, those who intend to participate in the 
workshop may kindly register their names ASAP with  Mr. V. N. Joshi, program 
co-ordinator, Goa Science Centre (9420687829/2463626), Mr. Shrikant Barve 
(Convener: Series on Health- 9403175973/2451143) or Mr. Atmaram Barve 
(9923663204), 

 

Indology Goa has appealed to all the citizens from all walks of life and 
captains of all the Industries, State government, academic institutions, small 
and medium scale industries, social and charitable organizations, workers' 
unions sector to send their representatives etc will be invited to participate 
in this workshop to clarify their doubts about checking the outbreak of Swine 
Flu in their respective Sector.

 

 

Dr. Anjali Mohan Rao

Chairperson

Shrikant Vinayak Barve
Convener: We Love Ayurved
9403175973


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[Goanet] God and You

[Albert Desouza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




Albert writes: Modern man wants to become rich. A big mansion, lots of cars, 
lots of properties , money but limited children. One or two. These people think 
that they will get a special status in society. Due to limitations of 
potentials they are tempted to rob, cheat, steal and even have dacoity. These 
type of people actually do not know why they do this. Some really want to be 
great and are tempted to come into by the back door while others wants just a 
compete with the Jonases. But these illgotten gains are not assimilated by the 
very same person who has collected it . Then comes the old age and the time 
when you think you can relax and enjoy the fruit of other person's sweat comes 
the disaster. May be a death in your family may be of your children and this 
sorrow you cannot bear and wish you had never done the evil deeds in your life. 
Sometimes sickness eats your savings and you reach at such a stage you wish 
your parents had not to give you birth. What about the curses w
 hich have been thrown on you by the poor whom you have cheated or oppressed ? 
God loves the poor and the downtrodden. 

_
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Re: [Goanet] HJS protests

[Santosh Helekar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Bhandare  wrote:
>
> Please note that the HJS has never advocated for
> violence.. They have merely urged people to protest peacefully.
> Knowing these marxist scumbags, i wouldnt be surprised
> if they are the ones calling kerkar and raju nayak and threatening them >to 
> give HJS a bad name.
> 

Two threats against Subodh by HJS activists have been published on the HJS 
website. Please see:
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/7617.html

No evidence against Marxists has been presented by Chinmay for his wild 
accusations.

Cheers,

Santosh



  

[Goanet] Panch members usurping dead peoples' properties

[cyril D'Souza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Dear Demello ,

with regards to the above it is good that you have taken the first step to
trying to solve your property problem by approaching the Goa Netters and
this is my advise to you :

NO 1 - do not get scared

   - give a written complaint to Police (in your case Calangute PS ) ,
   Panchayat Secretary , Mamladar , Dy Collector , Director of Panchayats and
   mark a cc to the Panch member concerned and to your witness ( your uncle ? )
   You can hire the services of an advocate in case you are based in the Gulf
   and give a power of attorney to your uncle ( if he is in a position to move
   )
   - Inward with inward numbers all your complaints and send a Regd AD  to
   the Panch member concerned .

I had a somewhat similar problem in Saloi  some years back and got it solved
( drove them away )  by taking *firm action including shaking* the
encroacher by the scruff of his neck.

Do not fear - you are a Goan and you must fight for your rights if not these
greedy buggers will grab all thats left of our once beautiful Goa.

Regarding your last statement in support of the Governments decision to give
powers to the secretaries - I dont agree as you cannot generalise and blame
all Panchas as corrupt - are the secretaries without blemish ?

Wish you all the best,

*Col.Cyril P.D'Souza ( Retd.)
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>   1. Re: Indian govt discovers it has no balls... (Gabe Menezes)
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>   3. Re: Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject (Mario Goveia)
>   4. Re: Indian govt discovers it has no balls... (Ashley D'silva)
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>   6. Camoes on Kerala (Bernado Colaco)
>   7. Re: HJS protests (floriano)
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> 10.  Solving healthcare crisis (Mario Goveia)
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> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:32:54 +0100
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> > list.
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> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090816/bs_nm/us_ubs
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> of
> trade between India and Switzerland. A small Country like Swizterland would
> 'more or less' tell India to go fly a kite.
>
> USA is a different kettle of fish, kick the big two or three Swiss Banks
> out
> of New York and they are in pooh!
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Re: [Goanet] Mario, Kerala and Cuba

[Mario Goveia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:16:44 +0200
From: Alfred de Tavares 

Cuba's medical infrastructure has been judged seccond to none, globally.

Mario responds:

How can an impoverished communist basket case that depends on slightly less 
impoverished Venezuela, which itself has a 60% poverty rate, for financial 
support after the old Soviet Union imploded, with no ability to generate much 
income, have what you suggest?  This would defy reason, as it in fact it does.

Here is a report of Cuba's struggling two tier system, one for VIP's and 
foreign visitors to fool people who lean towards socialism, and another system 
for local Cubans which is not so pretty:

http://www.examiner.com/x-17196-South-America-Policy-Examiner~y2009m8d16-A-peek-at-an-extreme-version-of-universal-health-care

Excerpts:

Much like communism, universal health care in Cuba looks great on paper. Under 
complete state control, no private hospitals, clinics, or other medical 
treatment facilities are permitted in Cuba.

But the reality is very different. 

Access to basic medicines and medical supplies, like acetaminophen, ibuprofen, 
and gauze bandages, are often very limited. 

There is a huge difference in treatment provided to Cuba’s government elite, 
foreigners, and the average Cuban citizen—a sort of health apartheid, like 
Cuba’s tourism apartheid. According to the National Center for Public Policy 
Research, average Cubans suffer long waits at government hospitals, while many 
services and technologies are available only to the Cuban party elite and 
foreign "health tourists" who pay with hard currency. Moreover, access to 
rudimentary medicines can be limited, and there are reports that citizens 
excluded from the foreign-only hospitals often must bring their own bed sheets 
and blankets while in care.

So what happens when the government prohibits you from paying for health care 
of your own choosing? A black market develops. 
[end of excerpt]

Re: [Goanet] Solving healthcare crisis

[Mario Goveia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Mario Goveia  wrote:
>
> Ironically, Gilbert parrots a blogger called Rad21 in the Huffington 
> Post as was noticed by Santosh recently.? I guess he hoped no one would 
> notice.
> 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: lyrawmn 

It is my understanding that Gilbert Lawrence IS blogger Rad21 on Huff Post, and 
not parroting (or plagiarizing, also known as brain rape) as M. Goveia wrongly 
insinuates.

Mario asks:

Hey, lyrawmn,

"It is my understanding?"  Do you know for sure or don't you?  I would only be 
wrong if we knew for sure whether there is self-brain-rape going on - using 
your terms:-))

Anyway, it's not important with respect to Goanet as my following comments show.

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:23:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Santosh Helekar 

Please don't be misled by my response to Gilbert. Gilbert does indeed comment 
on the Huffington Post blog under the pseudonym rad21. You may not like his 
arguments because of ideological differences, which is fair enough. But his 
posts here and on the HP blog do argue the center-left position on health care 
quite well.

Mario responds:

Since I haven't seen a denial, you are probably right.

Not to make too fine a point, but I would characterize my differences with 
Gilbert or anyone else for that matter as intellectual, not ideological, the 
difference being that I am not a member of any organized group and try to cite 
facts and credible sources and logical common sense which an ideologue 
generally cannot or does not.

Secondly, anyone who has practiced medicine for 40 years in the US must by 
definition know something about the topic, even though weak economic 
fundamentals or personal beliefs may lead to gems like, "The goal of the new 
healthcare system should not be to ration medical care but rather to have a 
rational application of care -  one based on proven science and accepted 
practice patterns."

Is it the "goal" of any national healthcare system to ration care, or does that 
come from a mismatch in the patients to resources ratio by the same systems 
that brag about being cheaper than American healthcare but have massive 
mismatches of resources relative to the patients in their systems?

I heard Dr. Brian Day, past President of the Canadian Medical Association being 
interviewed last night on TV.  He said out of Canada's 34 million population 
that ostensibly gets "free" health care, 5 million - 15% - do not even have a 
primary care physician because they just don't have enough doctors.  He said 
that there are 1 million patients on waiting lists for surgery and another 1 
million waiting to see a surgeon so that they can get on a waiting list for 
surgery.  Is this any way to practice medicine in a developed society?  
Obviously this was not a "goal" of their system.

Dr. Day also said that it was a misnomer to say that all healthcare was covered 
in Canada.  He said that Canadians still have to buy private insurance for 
their medications and for allied services like ambulances, etc. not to mention 
American insurance for treatment in the US when necessary.  See,

http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/1319/

There was a case just this week where a woman in Britain's "free" system had to 
give birth on the pavement outside a hospital.  When she unexpectedly went into 
labor and called her midwife asking for an ambulance she was told she should 
sit in a hot bath and then make it to the hospital on her own, a distance of 
100 metres, because ambulances are not covered by NHS and she had had nine 
months to arrange a ride.  She didn't make it all the way and a passing 
physiotherapist helped deliver the baby.  Fortunately, baby and mother are 
doing fine.  In the US an ambulance would have been on its way in seconds 
regardless of her ability to pay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1207151/Woman-gives-birth-pavement-refused-ambulance.html

One of my relatives had an anaphylactic reaction to a jellyfish sting in Miami, 
FL, eight months ago.  They called 911 and the EMTs were there in less than 5 
minutes, took the child to the nearest emergency room, and no one even asked 
for any payment even though they had insurance.  

Contrast this humane response with the one in Britain.  Yet, in a gross 
generalization, Gilbert says Americans should be ashamed of their system.

Finally, Dr. Day said that in British Columbia, where he lives, 42% of the 
state budget is for healthcare and this is projected to rise to 90% in the next 
few years if their system is not reformed.

[Goanet] Fw: [aldona-net] Karnataka Panchayat amendment 2007 - The Truth

[eric pinto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



 With a thank you to Miguel Braganza.

Soter D'Souza, Director , Centre for Panchayati Raj, to day clarified at the
Public Meeting of the Goa Panchayat Democratic Front [GPDF] that the  views
expressed in the OPinionatED column in 'Herald' dtd. 19/8/2009  was
erroneous.

He said:
"It cites an amendment in 2007 by Karnataka govt. taking away powers of the
Gram Sabha to approve the beneficiaries. But this is far from the actual
truth. Below is reproduced some information about this Bill which was sent
back by the then Governor of Karnataka. This is what information we have
been able to retrieve on the fate of this Bill. The *Grama Panchayat
Hakkottaya Andolana*, a movement federating members of over 80 panchayats,
institutions and individuals, united across political parties lobbied with
the Governor against the Bill.Very interesting observations below.

*Karnataka Governor Shri T. N. Chaturvedi had refused assent.*

The Andolana petitioned the then Honourable Governor T N Chaturvedi, and
requested him not to approve of an action that violates the Constitution and
specifically its 73rd Amendment that all elected representatives have
pledged to uphold on assuming office. Happily Sri Chaturvedi did not put his
seal on the 2007 Bill and returned it to the Legislature with elaborate and
eloquent comments. In his submission, he wrote:

“..*while going through the present Karnataka Panchayat Raj (Amendment) Bill
2007, it evidently seems to undermine the Constitutional mechanism for rural
development governance as enshrined in Part IX of the Constitution of India
and the Karnataka Panchayat Raj Act, 1993 which are intended to implement
the 73rd amendment with the twin objectives of broader democratic
representation (Article 243C-243F) and direct empowerment through conferment
of decision making powers to Panchayats. The 73rd amendment does not
envisage that parallel institutions be invented to discharge functions even
in the guise of a default power, where and when duties are alleged to be not
discharged effectively by Panchayats. The correct approach must be to devise
ways and means to enable the Panchayats to function effectively, rather than
to bring in higher legislators/officials into the system. It will obviously
be considered as a regressive step in the march towards strengthening local
democracy and striking, at the root of the 73rd amendment. It may not be out
or order also to mention that the reinstatement of legislators and officials
in the set up in this manner and vesting them with authority on the plea
that Gram Sabhas and Gram Panchayats have not worked satisfactorily may even
be misconstrued as conflict of interests between the former and the
Panchayats*.”

source: www.indiatogether.com









  

Re: [Goanet] GPDF dabbles with GBA Bluffs

[soter]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Frederick wrote:
PS: The TOI report gives another version of what transpired on the 
GBA-panchayats issue.
Frederick seems to have jumped onto some other issue to divert replies to my 
earlier questions/comments. Common of Frederick when cornered. 
But let us now take on the TOI report. When there are so many newspapers in Goa 
I am shocked that  a reputed journalist like Frederick has to fall back onto a 
report of TOI about which I have personally received a lot of reaction from 
friends who were present for the meeting but are unfortunately not part of this 
group. I wonder whether as a journalist, Frederick approves of such one-sided 
narration of facts in the report of a public function by such a reputed 
newspaper as TOI. Would Frederick recomend this TOI report as a model of a news 
report for other news reporters in Goa? From the news reports of yesterday's 
meeting that appeared in today's English and Marathi press, which of the 
report(s) would Frederick the great journalist recomend as a model? Very sad 
revelation!

-soter

Re: [Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..............

[Alfred de Tavares]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




No aspersion intended or cast cast on Samir nor RP...but that about being 

"true Goan patriots"  but it regurgitates the words of...who was it?...Sam 
Johnson?

 

Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrels...

AT


 

 
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:43:59 -0400
> From: venantius.pi...@gmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> CC: socorro...@yahoo.com
> Subject: [Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..
> 
> 
> No brickbats will fly. There is nothing to throw at you considering that
> your piece is not touching any nerve. For sure. There is still respect
> around, no matter what words and paths—people use to express their views,
> notions, positions, perspectives, and so forth.
> 
> venantius
> 
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "Vivian A. DSouza" 
> > Subject: [Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..
> >
> > I avoid posting on GoaNet, although I have been a subscriber almost since
> > its inception. but can no longer hold back.
> > ?
> > Lately I have read some rather unpleasant postings against Samir and
> > Rajan,two individuals who I greatly admire because they have the guts to
> > tell it like it is.? One may not like the
> > way they report what they see, but in my not so humble opinion, they are
> > true Goan patriots.? They may not be not be?Catholics like the majority of
> > posters on this forum.??They are individuals who belong to the majority
> > community in Goa and?care deeply about Goa and the rot that is setting in.?
> > I am glad that there are individuals like Samir and Rajan around to open our
> > eyes.
> > ?
> > Now,? ?glad to get this off my chest, and let the brickbats fly.?
> > "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me"
> > ?
> > ?? Vivian A. D'Souza (a returnee to Goa)
> > ?
> > ?

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[Goanet] Ganesh Chaturthi Festival greetings to my fellow Goans!

[Cip Fernandes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Ganesh Chaturthi Festival greetings to my fellow Goans!

I observed that the best thing of this festival is that the most of Hindu Goans 
celebrate their Ganesh Chaturthi at their ancestral home along with their 
native. One can meet almost all the members of a joint family on the Ganesh 
community Chaturti day at their ancestral home.

Ganesh Chaturthi festival is the birthday celebration of the Lord Ganesh, son 
of Shiva and Parvati. Lord Ganesh is widely worshipped as the supreme God of 
Wisdom, Prosperity, obstacle remover and good fortune. Ganesh festival is 
mostly celebrated in the former states of Mharata Empire including Goa.

In the nineteen century, Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak was the main architect to 
make this festival walessafer...@gmail.com as the major festival for a 
different purpose. In Goa, nowadays we see lot of community Ganesh festival 
celebrations as well as new temples dedicated to Lord Ganesh. In recent years, 
new temples dedicated to Lord Ganesh are in Parra (near Jakni), Mapuca 
(Ganeshpuri), Arpora (Tinto), etc in Bardez. 

Ganesh Chaturthi festival is celebrated on the fourth (moon) day of 
‘Bhadrapada’ month of Hindu calendar, popular known as “Chauth” (fourth day of 
the Hindu calendar month).

Enjoy Ganesh Chaturti Festival and have fun!



  

[Goanet] Arch Intern Med -- Abstract: Sleep Habits and Susceptibility to the Common Cold, January 12, 2009, Cohen et al. 169 (1): 62

[Con Menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Research on Sleep Habits and susceptibity to Common Cold.

Con
http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/169/1/62

[Goanet] JOIN THE COMMITTEE IN ORGANISING - WORLD GOA DAY - MUMBAI - 2009 - Viva Goa Resounds in Mumbai

[jane gillian rodrigues]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com





On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:06:43 +0530  wrote
VIVA  GOA -! - MUMBAI 09  - 1st meeting - Sunday, 30th August, 
2009, 12 noon


My dear E-mail friends and family,
I invite each and everyone of you, of all age groups, both females and males, 
Goans and Non-Goans, of all religious communities  to join me in organizing :-

WORLD  GOA  DAY - MUMBAI - 2009 

DATE : Saturday, 24th October, 2009

VENUE : Bandra(w)

TIME : 6PM ONWARDS

E-mail or sms me yr name, address, ph/mo. no.  on 

 e-mail  :janerodrigu...@rediffmail.com

with a copy to :- worldgoaday_mum...@rediffmail.com and 
janerodrigues_worldgoaday

OR  

sms  on mo. no.:-+919930011007

1st meeting - Sunday, 30th August, 2009, 12 noon

The organizing committee will consist of 20 people, out of which, Jude 
Tandon,Janvion Rodrigues, Dr. J. Peter Rodrigues have already sent me e-mails 
confirming their desire to be members  of the committee hence, I need, atleast 
16 more people to join us in organizing the programme.

All My love

Jane

cc: rene barretoAuthor, Overall Coordiantor ,WORLD GOA DAY -  As per my promise 
to you.

cc: Joanne Rebello Fernandes- Tks for yr e-mail, and great article in TOI of 
20/8/2009 - Yes - October 2009




On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:17:18 +0530  wrote
>
>rene barreto >
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:59:12 +0530  wrote
>
Thanks toGOAN VOICE UK- http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/for their 
support in making WORLD GOA DAY known to the GOANWORLD ! rene -Original 
Message-From: Eddie Fernandes [mailto:ed...@fernandes.u-net.com] Sent: 20 
August 2009 11:25Viva Goa Resounds Across the GlobeHeadline: Sorpotel & mandos 
- Viva Goa Resounds Across the GlobeSource: Times of India (Mumbai edition); 20 
Aug. 2009; Page 7 By Joeanna Rebello
>
>
 Fernandes. Excerpts: On 20 August, 30 international cities via 40 global Goan>
>
 associations willgather Goenkars to celebrate World Goa Day started by the 
London-based, Goaoriginated Rene Barreto in 2000. Tony Luis from London says 
the city and its suburbs have over 25,000 Goans,and preparations for G-Day have 
been on for six months. In Kenya, the Goans will accommodate the party. In 
Toronto, communalexcursions such as these do
>
>
 more than just bring out the>
>
 banjo. TheTanzanians have upped the adrenaline . There's prayer and pulao for 
these Goan Britons who will have apilgrimage-picnic to The Friars-Aylesford 
Priory in Kent. Photo + 619 words 
athttp://goanvoiceuk.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/times-of-india-mumbai-edition-20-aug-2009-page-7/HAPPY
 WORLD GOA DAYEddie 
Fernandes0WORLD
 GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 - WORLD DAMAN DAY - WORLD KONKANI DAY EVENTS around the 
GOANWORLD : 
>
>
>
http://www.goanvoice.ca/2009/issue17/peopleplacesthings.htm#ppt_1EVENTS around 
the DAMAN WORLD: http://web.mac.com/noelgama/wdd09/WDD09_Theme.htmlPhtographs : 
>
>
>
000rene 
barretoAuthor, Overall Coordiantor ,WORLD GOA DAY - WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN 
ASSOCIATIONSA day set aside by Goans whoa re proud to be Goans -to CELEBRATE 
their Goan Cultural Heritage,a day to promise to help the less fortunate in our 
Goan community.

Re: [Goanet] GPDF dabbles with GBA bluffs

[floriano]

  August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
   Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
   Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

   http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



:-))  Uh Huum  ???

However, I will be writing  my piece (the su-raj stand) on the much talked 
about Panchayat Act Amendment Bill in due course of time.


Till then I shall stay SURPRISED  at 'alter egos' on display.

floriano
goasuraj
9890470896


- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या " 


To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GPDF dabbles with GBA bluffs


If "ideology" is the matter, how would you
justify yourself being the BJP Minority Morcha chief in Goa, turning
very critical of the BJP, and then finding a close ally in, say, a
Rajan Parrikar? --FN

[Goanet] Meet the main man behind vitamin D

[Con Menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



There been a lot written recently about this vitamin.

See for yourself.

Con

http://hsibaltimore.com/2009/06/02/vitamin-d-3/

[Goanet] Fight for your right

[Albert Desouza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




Albert writes:- We have a habbit of buying lots of electrical and electronic 
and digital gadgets and 98 % of these gadgets sold in the Goa  market have 
defects but the shopkeeper knows very well that all the defective items can be 
pushed into the goan market. You buy a computer in Mumbai or Bangalore and you 
buy one in Goa and see the difference. Goans have one dirty habbit. We are over 
friendly with the person selling goods, and the one who comes to your house for 
maintainance. Baba re puta re are the adjectives used when the mechanic comes 
to your door. I too belong to this group. I have learnt much from my friend 
Tony De Sa. It was the time when consumer's forum had just been started and I 
had complained to this forum without knowing much about the forum. My complaint 
was against electricity department. Tony De Sa had a simple case. He was coming 
down to Goa from Bombay. He was to board the bus at a particular point but at 
the last moment the bus stop was changed .He had t
 o take a taxi. Paid Rs. 30 for the same. He filled a case in the consumer's 
court fought the case and won.His case was not much for gain but to teach 
people like me how to fight.  This was the time I too learnt that I should 
fight for my right. I had bought IFB washing machine, two years warranty. 
Within six months the chasis got rusty. They replaced it. Eight days before the 
expiry of the warranty the timer started giving trouble. The mechanic was a 
wise person. He took a thread and wound it round and made it work .The timer 
worked and exactly one month later it stopped to be told that I had to pay for 
the timer. I approached the consumer's court. I won the case. Got a free IFB 
and got a cheap publicity also. The result this news of the case came in all 
the leading newspapers in India. It was a loss for the IFB. They came out with 
best quality product. Its almost ten years now that I have the IFB God forbid 
nothing has happened so far.


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[Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..............

[Venantius J Pinto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



No brickbats will fly. There is nothing to throw at you considering that
your piece is not touching any nerve. For sure. There is still respect
around, no matter what words and paths—people use to express their views,
notions, positions, perspectives, and so forth.

venantius


> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Vivian A. DSouza" 
> Subject: [Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..
>
> I avoid posting on GoaNet, although I have been a subscriber almost since
> its inception. but can no longer hold back.
> ?
> Lately I have read some rather unpleasant postings against Samir and
> Rajan,two individuals who I greatly admire because they have the guts to
> tell it like it is.? One may not like the
> way they report what they see, but in my not so humble opinion, they are
> true Goan patriots.? They may not be not be?Catholics like the majority of
> posters on this forum.??They are individuals who belong to the majority
> community in Goa and?care deeply about Goa and the rot that is setting in.?
> I am glad that there are individuals like Samir and Rajan around to open our
> eyes.
> ?
> Now,? ?glad to get this off my chest, and let the brickbats fly.?
> "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me"
> ?
> ?? Vivian A. D'Souza (a returnee to Goa)
> ?
> ?

[Goanet] Solving healthcare crisis

[Gilbert Lawrence]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Santosh you should not have blown my cover. Let some think it is really a 
"White guy" writing "center-left position on health care quite well."

And let them think that, all Indians can do is "parrot a blogger".  I will now 
have to assume another pseudonym.  Keep investigating.

Do we hear same people condemn Goan "White . lickers" often on Goanet?
Regards, GL


-- Santosh Helekar 

Please don't be misled by my response to Gilbert. Gilbert does indeed comment 
on the Huffington Post blog under the pseudonym rad21. You may not like his 
arguments because of ideological differences, which is fair enough. But his 
posts here and on the HP blog do argue the center-left position on health care 
quite well.


- On Thu, 8/20/09, Mario Goveia wrote:

Ironically, Gilbert parrots a blogger called Rad21 in the Huffington Post as 
was noticed by Santosh recently. I guess he hoped no one would notice.



  

Re: [Goanet] Arrest warrant against Indian student in Oz - dnaindia.com

[Gabriel de Figueiredo]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



See also 
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25963630-661,00.html

and
http://www.theage.com.au/national/southbank-crash-police-vow-to-hunt-killer-20090821-est9.html



On another topic, foreign students will face greater screening as the 
(Australian) Government cracks down on visa fraud and scrutinises their 
(students') ability to finance life in Australia.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/foreign-students-face-more-stringent-tests-20090820-es2w.html




- Original Message 
From: Ruby Goes 
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2009 12:56:49 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Arrest warrant against Indian student in Oz - dnaindia.com


http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_arrest-warrant-against-indian-student-in-oz_1283946

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Re: [Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..............

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



2009/8/21 Vivian A. DSouza :

> I avoid posting on GoaNet, although I have been a
> subscriber almost since its inception. but can no
> longer hold back.

Hi Vivian, aka Shenzi and Socorrokar,

You didn't explain why exactly you "avoid posting". I have seen your
posts on Goanet, though occasionally. I recall that earlier too your
posts would be occasional (though I might be mistaken here), and that
you expressed your interest in staying away from controversy. Or
potential controversy.

> Lately I have read some rather unpleasant
> postings against Samir and Rajan,two individuals
> who I greatly admire because they have the guts
> to tell it like it is.  One may not like the
> way they report what they see, but in my not
> so humble opinion, they are true Goan patriots.
> They may not be not be Catholics like the majority
> of posters on this forum.  They are individuals who
> belong to the majority community in Goa and

Your suggestion that Rajan and Samir get criticised (which is not
wholly true, I've seen ten times more support for Samir on Goanet than
the stray criticism; and even Rajan has his fan following among the
conservative Cristao here who share his ideological perspective) is
misleading to say the least.

To insinuate that they get criticised because "they may not be not be
(sic) Catholics like the majority of posters on this forum" is as
accurate as saying that I get my share of brickbats because A+ blood
flows in my veins, because I supposedly "belong" to a particular
caste, because I live in a place called Sonarbhat, or because I wear
(mostly) brown underwear!

Frankly, I don't like Rajan's conservative and xenophobic politics,
which is why I make an occasional comment when I feel the need to
speak out. He has been doing so too, here and elsewhere on the Net, in
a much more colourful language, which is his prerogative, and has
nothing to do with my religion (or lack of it) as your logic would
suggest.

> care deeply about Goa and the rot that is setting in.
> I am glad that there are individuals like Samir
> and Rajan around to open our eyes.

Please don't help create a "minority psychosis" among the "majority"
:-) We have it already among the "minorities: :-) FN
-- 
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Re: [Goanet] Hypocrisy watch

[Carvalho]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com





--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Rajan P. Parrikar  wrote:

> 
> To Goanet -
> 
> I understand that the bamon-hating poseur who fancies
> himself as an "academic" has oozed some schlock in the
> Gomantak Times regarding the kerfuffle involving a 
> Goan cartoonist and some Hindu fundamentalist thugs.
> 


Rajan has the gall to write on Goanet a post entitled Hypocrisy watch. For you 
information, I was forwarded today a post you wrote on a Hindu-dominated site, 
which makes clear your position on the art exhibition and how you would treat 
people who "disrespect our Gods." Something about drawing two pigs copulating 
to depict Dr Kerkar's parents and displaying that just outside the exhibition. 
It seems to me, you are the one bathing in the fresh, cooling waters of saffron 
hypocrisy.

It ain't going to fly, cockalorom man. Jason Keith Fernandes in his weakest 
moment wouldn't suggest the things you have suggested. So as to who has the 
higher moral ground, is upto members of Goa's civil society to decide.

Best,
selma


  

[Goanet] fund for overseas indians

[Eugene Correia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Rs.16 mn fund for overseas Indian citizens in distress  

New Delhi: The government Thursday set up a Rs.1.6 crore (Rs.16 million) fund 
for overseas Indian citizens in 18 countries who might find themselves in 
distress.
The decision to create the India Community Welfare Fund (ICWF) was taken at a 
cabinet meting presided over by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Information and 
Broadcasting Minister Ambika Soni told reporters. 
Under this, Indian missions in seven countries -- Qatar, United Arab Emirates 
(UAE), Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain and Malaysia -- would annually be 
provided Rs.15 lakh each "to meet contingency expenditure incurred by them for 
carrying out various welfare activities for overseas Indian citizens who are in 
distress, Soni said. 
Missions in 11 other countries -- Libya, Jordan, Yemen, Sudan, Afghanistan, 
Indonesia, Syria, Lebanon, Thailand, the Maldives and Iraq -- will annually get 
Rs.500,000 each. 



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[Goanet] diaspora news

[Eugene Correia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Britain may refuse citizenships to professionals on transfer


Indian IT and other professionals who are transferred to Britain by their 
companies may not be able to apply for citizenship if a recommendation made by 
a government-appointed advisory committee is accepted, a lobby group alleged 
Friday.
The Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP) Forum said the Migration Advisory 
Committee had recommended that skilled professionals who come to Britain on 
intra-company transfers should not be allowed to apply for British citizenship. 
Amit Kapadia, executive director of HSMP Forum, said: "We are very concerned on 
the Migration Advisory Committee's (MAC) recommendation on denying those coming 
on intra-company transfers under Tier 2 the right to settlement (permanent 
residence)." 
Under Britain's points-based system of immigration, Tier 2 Work Permits are 
given to medium and highly skilled workers who have a confirmed offer of 
employment with a British company. 
Intra-company transfers constitute 59 percent of people applying under Tier 2, 
and a majority of them are Indian professionals, mostly working in the IT 
sector. They are usually transferred for a three-year period, which can be 
extended to another three years. 
Under current rules, immigrants who have lived lawfully in Britain for five 
years are considered for permanent residence status, which is the basis for 
applying for citizenship. 
But the MAC recommendation, if accepted, would mean this would not apply to 
those who come to Britain under intra-company transfers even if they fulfil the 
conditions. 
"We do not see any justification whatsoever for withdrawing the right to 
settlement to immigrants on intra-company transfers," said Kapadia. 
"We believe such draconian measures will only lead to further exploitation of 
migrants and would deprive hardworking skilled migrants who are paying their 
tax and are not a burden to the public funds their due rights after spending 
five years in the UK. 
"It will also impact employers and the overall UK economy very adversely as 
skilled migrants from other countries would avoid coming to the UK altogether," 
he added. 
Kapadia said the forum believed the MAC has "gone beyond its scope" in making 
the recommendation. 
The main job of MAC, which includes five leading economists, is to "provide 
independent and evidence-based advice to Government on specific sectors and 
occupations in the labour market where shortages exist which can sensibly be 
filled by migration". 


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[Goanet] Artist's Cartoon!!

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



In connection with the recent controversy regarding Dr. Subodh Kerkar's
cartoons one person mentioned to me that one of the cartoon drawn by him was
published in oHeraldo (dated: August 18, 2009, Page 2). In this connection
and after having a look at it I submit my views here-in- below. 
 
The cartoon shows a likeness of Shree Samarth Ramdas (one of the revered
saint of many Marathi speaking Indians) with the following caption:  "This
is a portrait of Samarth Swami Ramdas.  I did not want anyone's feelings to
be unnecessarily hurt, so I drew him fully clothed in a suit."
 
The normal attire of Shree Samarth Ramdas as has been noted by every Hindu
in Maharastra or Goa is that he wears only “langoti” and is depicted in that
way, all over the world. His believers have similar photo in their homes and
even in some Hindu business houses. Clearly such a depiction did not / does
not hurt anyone's feelings.
 
However, it appears that the feelings of the creator of the cartoon i. e.,
Dr. Subodh were hurt. It also gives a feeling that Dr. Subodh has no
understanding of the subject and the feelings of people. If Dr. Subodh did
not want to hurt the feelings of anyone he could have as well shown Shree
Samarth Ramdas in an attire of Hindu swami rather than showing him in suit!!
The way the present cartoon is painted gives a strong feeling of provoking
type of intentions of cartoonist’s.  And so, if people did get provoked why
should the creator of the cartoon take upon himself a role of a victim?
 
If the cartoonist is sincere, then he would have to answer in affirmative if
he is asked the following question: "Would the nude painting of Hindu
goddesses by MF Husain hurt anyone's feelings?"
 
According to me, an artist does not have a social responsibility to please
and uphold the public's sense of right and wrong in their expressions. Their
art is just their reflection and distillation of the world around them.  So
much so that very few artists today are aware that with celebrity comes
responsibility.  

When I look at any artist’s painting, I hope to see everything the artist
was dreaming of as he captured the scene, or whatever beauty he found to
excite him. I always like to see beyond the passion to the reality of the
artist’s character or spirit. Therefore, I feel, art is not just about
passion. An artist may, of course, have emotions, but their art should help
the viewer to have more than a surface understanding of it. Their art needs
to be like a child, the magnificent result of its complex and beautiful
creator. 

Most artists know well that their freedom of expression can and or may be
challenged but their intentions behind exercising freedom of expression
cannot be proved in the eyes of law!! Taking advantage of the freedom of
expression they resort to giving public something shoddy over and over
again, without any material substance but definitely with derogatory
projections of race, sex, social class and exploiting religious
feelings/beliefs. So what can one do about these profiteers who pollute
vulnerable minds as if they have no spiritual or social responsibility to
create real art? 
I don’t believe in censorship, but I feel strongly that a true artist should
censor themselves for the good of the society. Has Dr. Kerkar any time
bowdlerized himself and his paintings before offering them for public
viewing? OR is he up to a mad rush to complete what M. F. Husain could not
do or achieve? How is that Indian Artists expresses their right to freedom
of expression only to depict Hindu Gods, Goddesses & Saints in an unwanted
pose and attire? I wonder How come these artists don’t get inspirations or
imagination to depict  Saints of other religions in the same way as they
depict Hindu saints and gods? OR is it that these Indian artists consider
that Hindus have no moral right to get hurt if their sentiments are trampled
upon. 
  
Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad

[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY 2009 -GOENKARANCHEO DHIRIO and WGD - Canada

[rene barreto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




000

Goemkars !





I shares a post from Savio Fernandes , Chairman  of Goan Community 
- Dar es Salaam , Tanzania.   I thank him for his  kind thoughts. 

Goans in Dar es Salaam , You guys, you have shown us GOANS  
- how Proud you all feel to celebrate  - being a  Goan. ! 

Your Flyer s are some of the finest we have seen - 7 in all  ? 
View : 
http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/2009/07/goans-of-dar-es-salaam-tanzania.html

God bless Goa and Goans wherever they may be.

rene barreto 

WORLD GOA DAY 
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS
=

From: Savio Fernandes 
To: undisclosed-recipi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:10:39 AM
WORLD GOA DAY 2009 -GOENKARANCHEO DHIRIO
http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/2009/07/goans-of-dar-es-salaam-tanzania.html


As we approach our Grand Finale tomorrow &  stand united to celebrate our proud 
heritage, 
I would like to take this  opportunity to wish Mr Rene Barreto & Goans around 
the World 
peace  &  unity as we have done in the past. 

Celebrating Goa day has always been a memorable  event as we have a moment to 
reflect on 
what is to be a Goan & sharing  experience with family & friends , while Goans 
all over the world 
will  continue to support Goan unity & Solidarity in many different ways  !!

Come join us tomorrow with "Fortes Trio" all the  way from Goa to take you to 
the early hours of 
The morning  

Proud to be a Goan.

Chairman
Savio Fernandes 
http://www.goans.or.tz/
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>From "MauriceandClarina Coutinho" coutinho...@hotmail.com

WORLD GOA DAY 2009 AND BONDERAM FESTIVAL
Posted by: "MauriceandClarina Coutinho" coutinho...@hotmail.com
Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:11 am (PDT)



HI GOANS WORLDWIDE,WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY WORLD GOA DAY 
ON 20TH AUGUST 2009.

WE ARE CELEBRATING ON 23RD AUGUST COMBINING WITH OUR ISLAND 
BONDERAM FESTIVAL.


MAURICE COUTINHO.PRESIDENTD IVAR ASSOCIATION, TORONTO.


WORLD GOA DAY - MISSISSAUGA 
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GOAN VOICE UK :http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/

GOAN VOICE Canada : 
http://www.goanvoice.ca/2009/issue17/peopleplacesthings.htm#ppt_1

WORLD GOA DAY - Reports Updates:


http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/world-goa-day-2009-reports-of-events.html




rene barreto :
WORLD GOA DAY 
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS.
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[Goanet] Arctic_Indian borders_Kargil_Nathu La, etc.

[Venantius J Pinto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Dear People,
Does anyone have an idea of who I talk to/approach to go as a member of
those expeditions that go to that go to the Arctic from Goa.
Also can any Senior army personel (Goan or otherwise) help me obtain
permission to live with our soldiesr so I can draw them and their lives on
our borders.

Any response much appreciated.

venantius j pinto

Re: [Goanet] Mario, Kerala and Cuba

[marlon menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Alfred

The HDI values for both Kerala and Cuba are quite high and belie their low 
economic scores. My whole point was to identify yet again, Mario's inability to 
make a consistent argument. He praises Kerala's HDI achievements while 
previously slamming Cuba's model that is very similar to that of Kerala's.  
Ditto for his bashing of the health care systems outside the US, while then 
himself admitting that the US system that he praised so much earlier is 
bankrupt.

Mario seems to have the problem of making adhoc, single parameter, idealogical 
based and often arrogant judgements on other (non US) countries and societies. 
As we can see, making sweeping statements with limited analysis continues to 
get himself into trouble. He is is worst critic! It is this all black or white, 
for us or against us type of thinking that has gotten the US into so much 
economic and military trouble over the past decade. In principle, I share many 
if not most of Mario's views on economic liberalism, but I try to avoid making 
grandiose and arrogant denunciations of other nations and societies that have 
chosen alternate models for their health care or their general economies.  
Mario, like Big Brother Government that he derides so much, seems to think he 
knows what is best for the rest of the world.


Marlon


- Original Message 
From: Alfred de Tavares 

Marlon,
Kerala holds the record for having had the first ever elected communist govt.
On another tack, Cuba's medical infrastructure has been judged seccond to none,
globally.
Alfred

[Goanet] Goanet-health and Goan-doctors

[rene barreto]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




Goemkars ! 


On the occasion of WORLD GOA DAY this year - the 20th of August, 2009 , 
I call on Global Goan Doctors -  medical practitioners  and  well wishers 
to support   Herman Carneiro  and  help us  enhance the Goanet-health group
which is a part of Goanet.


I append a note from Herman Carneiro which is self explanatory, 
let us  support him in any way we can, one does not have to be a doctor to do 
so.
I am also looking forward to the support from the Leaders of the Goan 
Associations
and Goan Organizations all over the world. 

Let us mark WORLD GOA DAY 2009 with one  more meaningful act ! 

In conclusion , may i ask you all to join me in congratulating Herman in 
achieving his
doctorate - Dr. Herman Carneiro  ! .as you will notice from the titles that 
go along with 
his name.(below- i hope i am right in what I write :) 

He is posted in London for the next 2 years - I for one will be working very 
closely with him 
for the betterment of the Global Goan Community. (me - no doctor)

I am sure Herman will share his thoughts  on  his plans ,  on how we plan to 
spread the Goan Doctors 
and  health network in Goa and Globally.

If you have some POSITIVE suggestions  you may wish to share , you are most 
welcome to
do so. 

Don t just say it - let s JUST DO IT !  TOGETHER for Goa and Goans 
everywhere. 

rene barreto :
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS




Please circulate this post ;
=


>From Dr.Herman Carneiro 



Dear doctors 

My name is Herman and I'd like to invite you to join forces. There's a group of 
Goan doctors and health professionalson  
www.Goanet.org   called Goanet-health.  Goanet-health is a network of Goan 
doctors and  health professionals around  the 
world. The focus of this group  is the following:

i) To  share research done in Goa or that has an impact on the health of Goans;

ii) To share collective expertise in improving health of Goans or and 
healthcare in Goa;

iii) To act as a network for discussing important issues in health in Goa or 
that affect Goans; and

iv) To act as a notification network in the event of outbreaks of disease.

This network is comprised of doctors and health professionals, such as 
epidemiologists and allied health professionals.

I have been in touch with Rene Barretto and he is keen on the idea of 
amalgamating the two networks.

To join the Goanet-health list please click on the link below (or copy and 
paste it into your browser):

http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-health-goanet.org

I look forward to all of  you joining and working with you to help improve the 
collective 
health of Goans.

Yours sincerely,

Herman Carneiro, MBBS MSc  DLSHTM



( MBBS   =   Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery- MSc=   Master of 
Science - 
 DLSHTM =   Diploma London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine )




WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 - WORLD DAMAN DAY - WORLD KONKANI DAY 

Updates:  http://www.goanvoice.ca/2009/issue17/peopleplacesthings.htm#ppt_1
GOAN VOICE UK:  http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/


000

rene barreto
WORLD GOA DAY 
a day set aside  by Goans who are proud to be Goans -
to CELEBRATE their Goan Cultural Heritage,
a day to promise to help the less fortunate in their  Goan  community:
===


  

Re: [Goanet] Who is REALLY running India?

[Mario Goveia]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



2009/8/20 Mario Goveia :

> While a small army of Goan crabs from politicians to bureaucrats to 
> developers are busy tearing Goa down, people from another Indian state 
> are busy building India up
>
> 1. Indian Defense Minister is from Kerala
> 2. Indian Foreign Secretary is from Kerala
> 3. Chief Justice of India is from Kerala ...

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:30:41 +0530
From: Tony de Sa 

Appears that the 'I Love Kerala' Fan club has just found its numero uno Fan!

Mario responds:

Godd one, Tony.  Really intelligent response, I must say, without addressing 
anything specific in my post.

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:31:44 +0530
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *  

I guess one could selectively choose facts of this kind to come to
just about any conclusion... FN
PS: I admire the Malyalees (as people from Kerala are known) for being
a hardworking and smart bunch. But I guess others have diverse
qualities too, depending on what criteria one uses to judge 'em.

Mario responds:

Conclusion?  What conclusion?  What selective facts?  Was the list in error?  
Is there a list of similar caliber for Goans, or Maharashtrians, or Punjabis or 
Bengalis or other Indians?  I'd be glad to salute them as well.

I know India is fragmented but this is ridiculous.

Did you see Tony's "intelligent" comment above?  He couldn't rebut anything 
specific in my post, so he throws a grenade and runs.

Has the crab mentality now reached the point where we cannot celebrate the 
achievements of some fellow Indians without one bilious Goanetter tearing down 
their state with a barrage of cow cakes and baseless innuendo, sprinkled with 
some trademark falsehoods, or being somewhat defensive as your comments may 
indicate?

My post made no judgment about Goans or anyone else, and the title I used, 
while a tad hyperbolic, was not too far off based on the positions achieved by 
these Keralites on the list.

Besides, if one is to believe some of the posts on Goanet and letters in the 
Herald, Goa is a lost cause of lawlessness and corruption:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181946.html

Are the crabs ever going to do something constructive for Goa?  Bashing 
Keralites is not how to do it.

[Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..............

[Samir Kelekar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Hi Vivian
I have been privileged and lucky to get huge support from Goanet, especially
in the last episode when the Assembly came after me.

I owe a lot of gratitude to all the members of Goanet.

Where did you see nasty posts against me?

regards,
Samir




  

[Goanet] Lion Roars

[Lionel Messias]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



*Calling the kettle black*

The Transport Minister Ramakrishna Dhavlikar has warned that if the
government reneged on the contract awarded to Shimnit Utsch India Pvt. Ltd.,
to supply high security number plates, it ‘would have to pay through its
nose’ the liquidated damages that would become payable to Shimnit. Boohoo.
Of course, no figures were given to back the claim. There never are. On the
contrary, the men responsible for not understanding the factors before they
signed on the dotted line, might also be up for a bloody nose. Because, this
is the way things are done in Government. In the business world, it’s called
‘backward integration’. In government, it works like this; first you swallow
a huge dose of vitamin M. Fortified, you promise the sun and moon; and when
inevitably you end up in the doghouse you backtrack, simultaneously
threatening all sides. It happened with SEZs and is happening with the
floating casinos. But expect more on this because Manohar Parrikar has a few
tricks up his sleeve, so do some more concerned citizens from out of State,
because there is much Dhavlikar does not know about the high security
registration plates.

Talking about paying through the nose, between February 2005 to February
2009 your Government spent Rs 46,18,467 as legal fees paid to various
lawyers in *Dilli *to defend the State before the Supreme Court. This
includes some lakhs spent on opposing the petition filed by Dhavlikar
challenging his disqualification by the Speaker Pratapsingh Rane.

Dhavlikar should have done his home work before he went gung ho on this one,
after all there is this possibility of a bloody nose if the government has
to compensate the SEZ applicants, sorry recipients of the government’s
goodwill. There’s also this huge problem of the thousand of trucks, cars and
even all kinds of two-wheelers with registrations from States like Himachal
Pradesh, *Dilli *(naturally) and of course from Karnataka and Maharashtra
that are in Goa almost permanently. These vehicles must be registered in Goa
within 11 months. Their owners live here, work here or have businesses in
Goa. What is Dhavlikar going to do about them? The answer, is he will ignore
them, pretending they don’t exist. In fact, I can see yet another set of
rules for Bhaillos and another for Goemkars.
*
Government goes shopping for Dhavlikar*

I came across these details the other day which might interest you.
Replacing a ‘garden fitting’ at his official Altinho bungalow cost the same
government Rs 1,39,350. Must have been one hell of a garden fitting and
unfortunately, I can’t throw more light on this. Replacing an air
conditioner cost Rs 35,228. To set up home for him at F-0-1 in Altinho, the
government spent Rs 28,924.65 on items like plastic mugs, a gas stove and a
mixer grinder. Makes you wonder who took away all the stuff before he moved
in. Among the other items the government bought with the Rs 28,924.65 are:
double bed sheet set, dust bins, dusters, glasses, thermos flask, spoons,
kitchen knife, pressure cooker, dinner plates, cups, pillows, more double
bed sheets, bedspreads, towels, pillow covers, and door mats. There’s also
this little detail of your government buying him a spanking new Honda City
for Rs 8,78,000. I am beginning to think our MLAs richly deserved that
salary hike.

*Aires Rodrigues Vs Subodh Kantak*

Digging up more dope on his bête noire Aires says that a close relative of
his, a lawyer called Leena Anish Dharwadkar, who worked under Subodh Kantak
was paid Rs 7,65,000 from February 2005 to March 2008 by way of fees. She
has now been appointed manager (legal) at the Goa State Infrastructure
Development Corporation Ltd. (GSIDC) on a salary of Rs 30,000 per month.
GSIDC also appointed an assistant legal manager called Mohini Ramanathan
Nair. Not bad, eh, Mr Dhavlikar, your government does have money to spend
through both nostrils. Aires Rodrigues says Kantak himself was a GSIDC
director from February 1, 2006 and resigned on September 13, 2007. He asks
did Kantak resign to ensure that the selection of his kin to a key post did
not look too obvious. Are you kidding?

*(Feedback 6658606, 9763718501 lionroars@gmail.com)*

[Goanet] GROUND ZERO PATRIOTS

[Marshall Mendonza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Amidst despairing stories daily in the media, for a refreshing change, here
is a story of how ordinary people are making a difference to the society we
live in.

 http://www.tehelka.com/story_main42.asp?filename=Ne220809coverstory.asp

 Regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] Goa miserable after 1961 says Bandodcar family!

[Bernado Colaco]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



'We are destroyed in less than 40 years.' These words still keep ringing in my 
ears when I happened to meet Mr. Bandodcar's brother-in-law from Mapusa. Both 
of were taking a flight to Bombaim.

 He sat by my side in the plane and those 45 minute ranted how medieval Goa had 
turned since the arrival of the indians. 'Foi uma asneira' (a great mistake) 
the gentleman spoke to me in fluent Portuguese. Corruption was rife, there no 
law and order, there is bad planning, essential services hardly work. 
Politicians are sex pests he said. 

We see the echo of this gentleman everyday on Goanet. Many Goans have left Goa 
because of this situation. Some Portuguese born have given up their indian 
rights to live in Portugal and earn a lot of money. They write about medieval 
Goa and Portuguese presence. They rant and than apologise. Nothing is written 
how medieval Goa is becoming today!

BC



  

[Goanet] Letter to the editor/Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

[neil rangel]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Letter to the editor

Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the Indian 
Constitution 
on August 20, 1992

As Goan Catholics we have absoultely nothing to celebrate about. It is 17 years 
since we were badly betrayed after the agitation, by those with the "Devnagri 
Konkani only" agenda and those who support them. Ironically I think the only 
individual who lost life in the agaitation was a Catholic. Since then, constant 
attempts both covert and overt are being made to destroy this aspect of our 
culture 
and so many other aspects as well. It is time we all st
ood up and asserted our right to our own language and our culture. Roman 
Concanim is 
our mother tongue and like every other language; has evolved over the centuries 
. It 
has the right to be given the same status as its sister language Devnagri 
Konkani. 
Since 1992 an alien language and script is being forced on our children in 
school 
and this has to stop immediately. The Hindus can have it for their children if 
they 
want to and we have no objections to that; but it cannot be forced on our 
children 
and us. Like so many other causes and struggles, an enemy also lies within the 
Catholic co
mmmunity: the Catholic clergy (and a significant number of other individuals 
who for 
reasons best known to them take no pride in our culture or heritage) who it 
seems 
have worked overtime to ingratiate themselves(at least subconsciously) with the 
ruling Hindu political elite and thoroughly "Sanskritised" ; the original Roman 
Concanim in our religious services and other areas as well. They would like us 
to 
use words and phrases that we never used or use and do not understand. As 
someone 
said: neither God nor St. Francis Xavier would understand the Concanim that our 
Catholic priests would like us to
 speak. We also have to safeguard our culture against what is the growing 
problem of 
individuals within  at the two extreme ends: one set who think they are more 
Hindu 
than the Hindus and the other who think and behave that they are more Western 
than 
the Westerners.

It is high time all this is brought to an end and we get the right to our 
mother 
tongue. How long are we going to be deprived of this by the majority? I may not 
be 
politically correct but it is time to recognise this: what makes Goa truly 
different 
from all other states and a unique tourist destination is her unique Goan 
Catholic 
heritage and culture that celebrates life. Without this the Goa we know of 
today, 
would never exist and probably even Devnagri Konkani would never exist..she 
would 
long have been swallowed up and merged imperceptibly into Maharashtra 
state..the 
Devnagri Konkani speakers would suffer the same state as the Goan Catholics do.

Dr Neil de Jesus Rangel.
Saoe Estevao, Ilhas, Goa.


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Re: [Goanet] Mario, Kerala and Cuba

[Alfred de Tavares]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com




Marlon,

 

Kerala holds the record for having had the first ever elected communist govt.

 

On another tack, Cuba's medical infrastructure has been judged seccond to none,

globally.

 

Alfred
 
>
> 
> Sorry to be bringing up a red herring, or should I say a red flag, but Kerala 
> also just happens to have had a communist led alliance leading it for the 
> past few decades. Kerala has very high government spending, specially on 
> social programs - quite the antithesis to Mario's supposedly free market 
> credentials. Its per capita income is far below that of Goa's and for its 
> large size has very little industry to speak of. Among the large Indian 
> states, it has the largest percentage of its working population working as 
> migrants in other parts of the country and the world. Luckily, Mario does not 
> have to travel very far to enjoy such a socialist paradise. Fidel Castro's 
> Cuba is only a few hours away from him. Kerala is the Cuba of India.
> 
> It looks like Mario can't seem to be able to make his mind. Just a while ago, 
> he was bashing Cuba. More recently, he was stating that the US medical system 
> was the best in the world while he bashed those of Canada and Britain. But 
> oops, now he admits that the medical system in the US is actually bankrupt. 
> Global cooling or is it global warming now?? Was Pope John Paul actually an 
> Al Qaieda operative?? 
> 
> Apparently, Mario thinks, we Goans are unique in electing bad politicians and 
> choosing bad bureaucrats as well. Tell us more Secret Agent Mario. Comedic 
> relief is always welcome on goanet.
> 
> Marlon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Mario Goveia 
> 
> While a small army of Goan crabs from politicians to bureaucrats to 
> developers are busy tearing Goa down, people from another Indian state are 
> busy building India up:
> 
> 1. Indian Defense Minister is from Kerala 
> 2. Indian Foreign Secretary is from Kerala 
> .
> .
> Hats Off to Kerala 

_
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Re: [Goanet] The Pope's moral blunders on outsourcing S A Aiyar(Times of India)

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



2009/8/19 Mario Goveia :
> False.  The real kamaal is Bosco's single-minded
> obsession with this person, Aiyar-ji, while
> the discussion has passed him by:-))

What are you'll Bambai-ised, Hindi-ised Goenkars talking about? I have
no problem with diversity, but I just can't follow your kamaal, camel,
kamal dialogue here! Please could someone offer an English-to-English
translation :-) FN

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[Goanet] Thoughts from the back benches..............

[Vivian A. DSouza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



I avoid posting on GoaNet, although I have been a subscriber almost since its 
inception. but can no longer hold back.
 
Lately I have read some rather unpleasant postings against Samir and Rajan,two 
individuals who I greatly admire because they have the guts to tell it like it 
is.  One may not like the
way they report what they see, but in my not so humble opinion, they are true 
Goan patriots.  They may not be not be Catholics like the majority of posters 
on this forum.  They are individuals who belong to the majority community in 
Goa and care deeply about Goa and the rot that is setting in.  I am glad that 
there are individuals like Samir and Rajan around to open our eyes.
 
Now,   glad to get this off my chest, and let the brickbats fly.  
"Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me"
 
   Vivian A. D'Souza (a returnee to Goa)
 
  


  

[Goanet] Hypocrisy watch

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



To Goanet -

I understand that the bamon-hating poseur who fancies
himself as an "academic" has oozed some schlock in the
Gomantak Times regarding the kerfuffle involving a 
Goan cartoonist and some Hindu fundamentalist thugs.

This is amusing, because this hypocrite who now wants
the cartoonist to have the freedom to exhibit - and I 
vehemently agree that the said cartoonist should have 
that freedom - was the very same fellow who last year 
wanted to block the screening of my documentary 
"The Rape of Goa" at a meeting of the Taleigao villagers, 
over the wishes of those villagers.  I had been 
approached by the villagers for a screening and had 
readily agreed.

Which is to say, the self-styled "academic" is selective 
about his support of freedom of expression.  Those he
disagrees with don't get to have their say in his rotten
worldview: the classic specimen of the "do-as-I-say-but-not-as-I-do" 
intolerant hack.

Even more amusing, the Taleigao village representatives
privately let on to me that I should come prepared with 
my Macbook to screen the documentary, this fellow's 
objections notwithstanding.  Accordingly I went there.  I 
even helped the GBA representative with her presentation.  
When her laptop malfunctioned she asked if she could use 
my Macbook.  The fellow could do nothing more than 
loiter impotently as I handled the GBA lady's slideshow.

Unfortunately, the programme was running late by well over 
an hour and I had to head back home on account of a prior 
commitment.  So I couldn't show "The Rape of Goa" that
morning.  It would have been fun rubbing this charlatan's 
nose into the ground by the very instance of screening the 
show.  Oh well, next time maybe.

Warm regards,


r

[Goanet] FIRST GOA STATE SWINE FLU AWARENESS WORKSHOP, SEPTEMBER 01, 2009, GOA SCIENCE CENTRE, MIRAMAR, PANAJI, GOA!!

[INDOLOGY GOA]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



PRESS-RELEASE

First Workshop on Swine Flu Prevention by IndologyGoa at Goa Science
Centre on 1st September 2009

IndologyGoa in association the Goa Science Centre and Fomento Group
will organise the first full day workshop in Goa on Swine Flu
Awareness and Prevention to prevent the Swine Flu pandemic and to
spread awareness about this deadly virus and preventive measures to be
taken in the event of such an outbreak, on Tuesday, September 1, 2009
from 9.30 am to 4 pm at the Goa Science Centre, Miramar, Panaji.

Goa Leading Corporate House The Fomento Group, India’s leading
Diagnostic products manufacturer Tulip Group of companies, Kenilworth
Beach Resort and Spa, Goa , Goanet.org, Magsons Super Centre, Miramar,
and Series of Health organisation,Taleigao, will be the leading
campaign partner for this social awareness campaign, said a press
release issued by Atmaram Barve, General Secretary, IndologyGoa and
the convener of the workshop

Dr. Anjali Mohan Rao, Chairperson, IndologyGoa said in a press release
that “With the forthcoming festive season, thinking that Goa is a safe
tourist destination, it is quite likely that all unsuspecting
virus-infected tourists from all over the nation will  gate-crash Goa
as usual to find respite in this beach paradise of the country. This
will eventually pose a grave danger to the life and economy of this
state, converting it ultimately into the second epicenter of the
Swine- Flu Pandemic, after Pune City in Maharashtra, added Dr. Rao.

In this workshop, medical experts from the field of Allopathy,
Ayurveda, Homeopathy and Yoga will be invited to guide citizens. Dr.
Rajendra Tamba associated with Directorate of Health services, and a
faculty for National level training program for World Health
Organisation (WHO) on pandemic preparedness will address the workshop
on “preventive measures to be taken to control the Swine Flue
outbreak”. Other experts who will guide the participants in the
workshop are Asst. Prof. Dr Anjali Chodnekar of Shri Kamaxidevi
Homeopathic Medical College & Hospital, Shiroda; Dr. Neelesh Korde
world renowned Ayurveda practitioner from Gomantak Ayurveda
Mahavidyalay and Research Centre, Shiroda, Yoga Expert Dr.
Balanadacharya of Padmanabh Shishya Sampradaya, Tapobhumi, Ponda, as
well as the Nodal Officer for the Swine Flu in Goa.

Dr. Balanadacharya, a graduation in Yoga and Doctorate in Sanskrit
Vedantaashtriya Sanskrit University, Tirupati and presently associated
with Brahmanand Sanskrit Prabhodini, Padmanabh Shishya Sampradaya,
Tapobhumi- Goa will be present a illustrated lecture and presentation
by this team consisting of  Ajit Gaonkar, Sidhi Borkar ( Kavi Kulguru
Kalidas Sanskrit University, Nagpur.), Mahesh Bakal ( Deputy
Secretary, Padmanabh Shishya Sampradaya, Tapobhumi-Goa.) on Yoga to
increase Body resistance and demonstration on Pranayama and Jalneti
Aasanas.

There will be no registration charges for this workshop but,
considering the limited capacity, those who intend to participate in
the workshop may kindly register their names ASAP with  Mr. V. N.
Joshi, program co-ordinator, Goa Science Centre (9420687829/2463626),
Mr. Shrikant Barve (Convener: Series on Health- 9403175973/2451143) or
Mr. Atmaram Barve (9923663204),

IndologyGoa has appealed to all the citizens from all walks of life
and captains of all the Industries, State government, academic
institutions, small and medium scale industries, social and charitable
organizations, workers' unions sector to send their representatives
etc will be invited to participate in this workshop to clarify their
doubts about checking the outbreak of Swine Flu in their respective
Sector.



Dr. Anjali Mohan Rao
Chairperson

[Goanet] The Politics of Intimidation (Vidyadhar Gadgil, in the Herald)

[Goanet Reader]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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The Politics of Intimidation

Bans and court orders are now
passé--- intimidation is a
better strategy to impose your
worldview upon society, says
VIDYADHAR GADGIL

The latest attempt at cultural censorship by the Hindu
Janajagruti Samiti (HJS) and the Sanatan Sanstha (SS)  --
demanding that artist Subodh Kerkar cancel his exhibition of
Lord Ganesh pictures, and its campaign against him and the
Marathi daily Lokmat for a cartoon 'denigrating' Swami
Ramdas, the seventeenth-century Maharashtrian saint and
contemporary of Shivaji  --  has firmly drawn the battle-lines
between those who believe in freedom of expression and those
who would like to constrain cultural and social expression
within the narrow straitjacket of their obscurantist agenda.

  The pictures of Ganesh drawn by Kerkar are a
  playful portrayal of the popular Hindu God in a
  variety of poses. Kerkar himself has been at pains
  to clarify his stand on the issue: "There is
  absolutely no intention of hurting anybody's
  religious feelings. My drawings are my offerings to
  Shree Ganapati and no kind of insult is intended...
  If some people's feelings have been hurt by these
  drawings, it only shows their narrow-mindedness and
  fanaticism."

The allegation that Kerkar and Lokmat have 'denigrated' Swami
Ramdas is even more bizarre. The cartoon in question is a
genuinely funny comment on cultural censorship. The
seventeenth-century Maharashtrian saint Samarth Swami Ramdas
is traditionally depicted (including on the covers of his
popular Marathi books like 'Manache Shlok' and 'Dasabodh')
wearing a caxtti. The cartoon shows an artist standing before
an easel with a canvas of a man wearing a suit, and telling
his friend, "Of course this is a drawing of Swami Ramdas. I
have dressed him in a suit to avoid hurting anybody's
sentiments." To find such humour offensive is to extend
'narrow-mindedness' and 'fanaticism' to ridiculous extremes.

Coming hot on the heels of its demand to remove M F Husain's
painting 'Standing Buddha' (which the Samiti itself admits is
unexceptionable) from the Goa State Museum, the HJS's latest
demand is so unreasonable that it has, for once, united a
wide range of citizens in Goa and prompted them to speak out
against such egregious cultural censorship.

But there are yet those who dismiss the HJS' campaign as
palpably silly (which it is) and consider speaking out
against it to be a mistake, as it gives organisations like
the HJS (particularly its fraternal organisation, the Sanatan
Sanstha) the publicity they crave and furthers their agenda.

But such a view betrays an ignorance of how such
organisations operate, and how they succeed in imposing their
agenda and vision upon society through systematic
intimidation of all opposition.

The HJS is perpetually in campaign mode in its main areas of
operation -- Goa, Maharashtra and Karnataka -- and is
indefatigable in its efforts to hunt out and eradicate
anything that offends its narrow view of Hinduism.

A random sample of alleged 'denigrations' of Hinduism from
the website of the HJS at http://www.hindujagruti.org/
includes the films Kambakht Ishq, Slumdog Millionaire and The
Love Guru; portrayals of Hindu deities in advertisements; and
various painters, of which group Subodh Kerkar is the latest
member and M F Husain the most illustrious.

Ten minutes on the website of the HJS would lead any
reasonable person to dismiss the whole caboodle as nonsense
and a waste of time -- and that is where the reasonable
person would be making a serious mistake.

  In the course of its campaigns, the HJS uses every
  means possible to ensure that anything it considers
  offensive is changed or removed as per its diktats,
  and it meets with remarkable success in its
  efforts. When faced with demonstrations and
  agitations, theatres and art galleries make the
  changes that are demanded rather than live with the
  implied threat of 'retaliation', and the HJS
  website reports numerous 'successes', with changes
  made and apologies tendered by film-makers, print
  media publications, art galleries, and even the
  Frankfurt Book Fair.

The India Art Summit, reportedly the country's largest art
fair, cited 'security reasons', this year (for the second
consecutive time), and did not include a single painting by M
F Husain, though he is probably India's best-known painter.

Neha Kirpal, Associate

Re: [Goanet] GPDF dabbles with GBA bluffs

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या]

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I have made my point, and Soter's lengthy reply only helps me to make
my point! Am not claiming to be an expert on anything, but I have a
right to my opinions based on what I've observed around me...
sometimes at close quarters! FN
PS: The TOI report gives another version of what transpired on the
GBA-panchayats issue.

2009/8/21 soter :

> - Frederick should keep to selling and publishing
> books rather than try potraying himself as an
> expert on grass-root activism affairs and a
> human relations manager. We have enough
> sincere and committed colleagues to guide us
> in what is apporpriate and not.

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[Goanet] Arrest warrant against Indian student in Oz - dnaindia.com

[Ruby Goes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Goanetters,
Oops!

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_arrest-warrant-against-indian-student-i
n-oz_1283946

rubygoes

[Goanet] Black Tea May Fight Diabetes

[Con Menezes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

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Time to ditch your coffee  for an alternative that can improve your health.

Con
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090728172604.htm

[Goanet] VOA News - Obama Promotes Health Reform on Conservative Radio

[Ruby Goes]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Goanetters,
Here's what happened.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-08-20-voa46.cfm

INFORMATION IS POWER.
RubyGoes

Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject

[Bosco D'Mello]

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-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia





> Nice try, Bosco, but anyone who reads my posts knows that I respond with

> facts and logic and robust common sense, on topic, whereas you often do

> not do this.



RESPONSE: Don't delude yourself, Mario. Your posts contain distortions, smears, 
personal invective, sarcasm and demonizing of fellow Goanetters who you 
disagree 
with.



> Almost always, at least one of three of your cronies piggyback off your

> posts, or vice versa, also ignoring the topic.



RESPONSE: There you go..personal invective and demonizing of Goanetters 
from you 
instead of sticking to a thread or subject under discussion. You just cannot 
help 
yourself.




> I have shown above what happens when my post is on the topic at hand and

> you are unable to keep up with the discussion - you resort to ridicule and

> gratuitous insults often with not a single reference to the topic of the

> post.



RESPONSE: You have resorted to personal invective and demonizing. Dont expect 
anything less in a response. Why would anybody want to respond to you in any 
other 
way? Why would anybody want to debate any subject with you when all you do in 
return 
is distort, smear, direct personal invective, sarcasm and demonize fellow 
Goanetters 
who you disagree with. In 5 years where have all the people who debated you in 
the 
past gone? Dont delude yourself into flights of fancy. Your bouts of 
last-wordism 
does not necessarily mean what you disseminate here are facts. You merely 
forward 
the propaganda you receive - from your Inbox to our Inbox. Ofcourse in the 
process 
you make it look like you authored it.



You will reap as you sow!! And Shantidoot can look after himself. As is your 
nature, 
you cannot respect Shantidoot's decision to return to the shadows. Mind you, 
you can 
do bugger all about anything other than type your 4 msgs, 5 days a week because 
it 
does not cost you a penny!! And on the 5th day you contradict what you wrote on 
the 
1st day.



Have you paid the $5 subscription for your news outlet - Pajama TV?? Unlikely, 
as 
you are an alleged conservative who would rather Paulson not bail out any of 
the 
banks. Instead of a recession, perhaps you were rooting for a depression.



- B

Re: [Goanet] Viva Goa Resounds Across the Globe - Small world

[Mervyn Lobo]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Eddie Fernandes sent the link to:  
> In Kenya, the Goans will accommodate the party. In Toronto, communal
> excursions such as these do more than just bring out the banjo. The
> Tanzanians have upped the adrenaline . 
> Photo + 619 words at
http://goanvoiceuk.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/times-of-india-mumbai-edition-20
-aug-2009-page-7/


 

Folks,
I received a phone call at 3.00 am this morning. 
My Tanzanian partner shouts, "Hey, your picture is in the newspapers here."
I reply, "My picture is in the Tanzanian newspapers?"
He breathlessly says, "No, I am in Mumbai, its lunchtime, I am reading the 
newspapers and your picture is in it.

Thanks to Eddie Fernandes, I can now view the said picture.
Thanks to Eugene Correiya for the picture i.e. the Times of India did not 
mention that is was Eugene's picture, but I will.

My only disappointment?
I wish Eugene had taken that picture five minutes later i.e. after I had won 
the GOA water balloon tossing competition.

Mervyn1650Lobo


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[Goanet] 'Swine Flu' alert/advice by SMS/Txt

[JoeGoaUk]

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Re: [Goanet] Talk on Free/ Open Source Software (FOSS) in Moira on 22/08/2009

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या]

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Hi Tony,

Forget about "piracy", I basically think this is an immoral law, just
about as moral as laws protecting slavery once were.

I don't subscribe too much to the "Open Source" but am a Free Software
supporter.

Do you mean to suggest that if anti-piracy campaigns were stopped or
made defunct, the case for Free Software would be dead? I think Free
Software (or Open Source) campaigns should not be propelled by fear!

A definition, from which the benefits would become apparent:

OPENQUOTE

Free software or software libre is software that can be used, studied,
and modified without restriction, and which can be copied and
redistributed in modified or unmodified form either without
restriction, or with minimal restrictions only to ensure that further
recipients can also do these things and that manufacturers of
consumer-facing hardware allow user modifications to their hardware.
Free software is available gratis (free of charge) in most cases.

CLOSEDQUOTE

To me, Free Software offers me freedom (not just from anti-piracy
campaigns), the potential to share knowledge and skills, the chance to
build up talent even in a village, access to tonnes of resources, a
collaborative style of working, and the most powerful gift of all --
knowledge! FN

2009/8/21 Tony de Sa :

> I am aware that there are other reasons, but we had to fit our
> argument into a single A4 page that could be distributed as a flier in
> the local newspaper, as compared to the huge text in your first link,
> which we would have had to print and bind books to distribute (might
> have been good business for you though)

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Re: [Goanet] GPDF dabbles with GBA bluffs

[soter]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Frederick wrote:
"Left to themselves, they'll finish each other. We don't need any
Regional Plan, Gram Panchayat law, builders lobby, and what not! At
the end of the day, everyone is convinced that their *own* position is
right, and every one else is either wrong, bigoted, bought-over or
biased! This is then given an 'ideological' gloss to justify the same
over time."
- Frederick is damn right. The builder adopted activists were left to 
themselves and the result is that every movement in Goa has not taken roots. 
Frederick's views are welcome but definitely will not be considered credible by 
me as he has no first hand experience on working in movements and at 
grass-roots. It is not like shooting opinions in cyber-space or selling books. 
Just like I will not challenge his dominion in journalism, he should desist 
from attempting to interpret my statements and put words in my mouth.
- Frederick also tends to jump to conclusions based on his own biases and is 
sometimes more in the business of fuelling feuds by creating misunderstandings. 
My differences with Dr. Oscar are based solely on facts/ statements relating to 
his thinking and expressed beliefs which are in black and white which Frederick 
should either accept or deny. So also when talking about the larger picture, 
can Frederick heal the deep psychological scars of a committed student activist 
who was allowed by his colleagues, now in prime positions licking the 
government,  to be the victim of police brutality and human rights violations 
while in custody for four days? Where have all the ideologies those guys 
preached to the grass-root people against the government vanished in their 
present public life? 

Frederick wrote:
I do think personal likes and dislikes play a big role in whom we
decide to work with. That's understandable. But then, why make such a
big fetish out of it?
-Frederick's ignorance about social activism stands revealed. In grass-roots 
movements you are playing with people's lives my friends Do you encourage 
people to stand up against government mischief and then start doing PR for the 
very same government rubbishing the people as anarchists? This is what happened 
at the CM's residence that fateful day when Patricia and Ritu of GBA went to 
protest against the government's permission to Aldeia project? The entire fraud 
is caught on camera. This is what happened at every GBA meeting where Digmaber 
Kamat became honest and trustworthy overnight after he took charge as CM.  
Frederick should also stop dragging things out of context which he is an expert 
at to fuel further discord. The problem is that in the case of the Panchayat 
movement I have a choice whether to sit on the plaltform with a particular 
person or not? The organisers are free to accept or reject me and my condition 
but cannot agree and then dupe me by doing the opposite. I have not done 
anything to prevent the orgnaisation of the meeting and neither did I refuse 
them my support. But defintiely I have my freedom to associate or not to 
associate. I aslo have the freedom to make my stand clear in public for those 
who may have been confused with what happened at this meeting. I also have the 
freedom to call the bluff.

Frederick wrote: 
If "ideology" is the matter, how would you
justify yourself being the BJP Minority Morcha chief in Goa, turning
very critical of the BJP, and then finding a close ally in, say, a
Rajan Parrikar? 
-Frederick should check his facts. I was not BJP MInority chief. Being in BJP I 
did not speak against secular institutions or involve myself in hate campaigns. 
Even the BJP will vouch for me that I spoke up at their forums when I felt 
something was wrong. In fact we had managed to do a lot in Socorro village when 
I was in BJP and my supporters, christians specifically , will vouch for that. 
I still have regards for the BJP's organisation skills, committment to the 
security of their cadre and their delivery systems. We secularists have a lot 
of positive things to learn from them which is glaringly missing in the so 
called secular fraternity.
-When the truth stares people in the face they fall on their most trusted 
weapon of dubbing me saffron just like was done on that fateful day at the CM's 
residence.
-BJP would have also not left one from their cadre at the hands of police 
utality even for a couple of hours.
- Frederick should also first prove his allegations that Rajan Parrikar is BJP.
- Frederick should also clarify whether in not agreeing to someone's ideology, 
he also advocates that I s

[Goanet] (no subject)

[Bernice Pereira]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Alfie,

So funny - That Santiago Bilbo crisscross of names.  Confused Look on their 
faces (both S and B) I remember, was a  one of meek acceptance.

Cheers
Bernice





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[Goanet] Daily Gook #490

[Francis Rodrigues]

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[Goanet] Fwd: Goa seeks to be part of unique ID pilot project

[Patrice Riemens]

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Bwo the Sarai Reader list/ Taha Mehmood

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/sci-tech/goa-seeks-to-be-part-of-unique-id-pilot-project_100235335.html

Goa seeks to be part of unique ID pilot project
August 20th, 2009 - 4:47 pm ICT by IANS

Panaji, Aug 20 (IANS) Chief Minister Digambar Kamat has pitched to
Nandan Nilekani for Goa to be included in the pilot project for the
implementation of the unique identification number programme.
Speaking to reporters Thursday after his return from New Delhi
Wednesday, Kamat said that during his meeting with the newly formed
Unique Identification Database Authority of India (UIDAI) chairman, he
had broached the idea of including Goa in the pilot project.

"He has already short-listed some districts in Karnataka for the UIDAI
pilot project. I have suggested him to include the state of Goa in his
list too. Some of the districts in Karnataka are as big as Goa
anyway," Kamat said.

The UIDAI envisions developing of a system through which all citizens
are allotted a unique identification number by 2011.

"Mr Nilekani has invited me to meet him again on the subject when I am
in Delhi next and hold discussions. If he agrees, Goa will be a part
of this prestigious pilot project," Kamat said.
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[Goanet] My email id walter_mene...@yahoo.com has been hacked.

[rene barreto]

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Dear Rene-bab,

My email id walter_mene...@yahoo.com has been hacked.

As I have no access to most of my contacts, kindly try to help me to get this 
message across. 

I am very much fine and very much in Goa.

Plz DO NOT respond to any appeal for financial help.

Mog asum di, 
walter
 WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2009 - WORLD DAMAN DAY - WORLD KONKANI DAY 


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Voice Canada: WORLD GOA DAY events 

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to CELEBRATE their Goan Cultural Heritage, a day to promise to help the 
less fortunate in their Goan community:
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[Goanet] GBA unites with p'yat body against Act amendment

[Goanet News Service]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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GBA unites with p'yat body against Act amendment
TNN 21 August 2009, 04:41am IST


PANAJI: The demand to scrap the controversial amendment to the Goa Panchayat 
Raj Act 
received a major boost on Thursday with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan joining the All 
Goa 
Panchayat Members' Movement.

"There is only one alternative to democracy, and that is more democracy," GBA's 
Dr 
Oscar Rebello told the large assembly of panch members and citizens from North 
and 
South Goa at the Panaji church hall.

Rebello said this fight (against the amendment) is essentially to give back 
powers, 
not to sarpanchas and panchas, but to the village gram sabhas. In this fight, 
said 
Rebello, the strength of the sarpanchas is the gram sabhas or the people. He 
also 
said that the amendment is a tacit admission by the government that it is 
unable to 
convince the people, but is steamrolling its way through draconian laws.

If Rebello evoked passion, GBA co-convenor Sabina Martins cited reasons why the 
amendment should be scrapped. The amendment gives village panchayat secretaries 
powers to execute a decision of the appellate authority in any appeal if the 
village 
panchayat fails to execute it.

Martins said the director of panchayats or the deputy director, who are the 
appellate authorities, are not neutral.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/GBA-unites-with-pyat-body-against-Act-amendment/articleshow/4917169.cms
 

[Goanet] What an Idea, Sir Ji

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
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Most Goans say that ruling government has tactfully re-activated Dr. Oscar
Rebello to take center stage in GBA, who at one time had voluntarily
resigned from GBA as its convener and equally from RP's Task Force that to
after putting his signature on RP draft. While tendering his resignations
from GBA & Task Force Dr. Oscar had given loads of convincing explanations.


Goans also say that government has played this Idea only to divert Aam Admis
attention from RP 2021 which is in finalization state to growing disturbance
created in the name of Panchayat Raj Amendment Act 2009 of Goa.  

Goans also have a feeling that ruling government has reactivated Dr. Oscar
only to sell old wine (old RP) with a tag of Dr. Oscar Rebello and may be
also of Edgar Rebello.  

These very same Goans also say that if above thinkings' are not correct than
Dr. Oscar must be planning to become chairman of RP 2021 finalization
committee and equally wants him to be appointed on Task Force that will be
appointed to study Panchayat Raj Amendment Act 2009 of Goa. 

If above saying of most Goans are correct. I would only say ...God save
what ever is left in Goa. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad

[Goanet] " BAN THE BAN..!''....by Fr Cedric Prakash sj

[Prashant]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



BAN THE BAN


- 
"BAN THE BAN!"

* Fr. Cedric Prakash

 

The decision of the Government of Gujarat to ban, 'Jinnah: India, Partition 
Independence', the controversial book by Jaswant Singh is on expected lines.  
Freedom of speech and expression, voices of dissent, have been systematically 
quelled in recent years.  This attitude bordering on totalitarianism and surely 
myopic, does not augur well for the future.

 

Whether Singh's 'Jinnah' merits a brief or not, is irrelevant.  The point is, 
that civil society is being treated with an arrogance that conveys a somewhat 
"you-cannot-think-for-yourself-so-I-will-decide-what's-good-for-you".  In a 
highly globalised world, when we boast about vibrancy and a technology for the 
future, this is the last thing to be expected!  It is common knowledge that 
those who want to read the book will do so at whatever the cost. 

 

In Gujarat the response to those who challenge is generally the same: whether 
it is a campaign by a daily newspaper to highlight endemic ills or Medha Patkar 
focusing on the plight of the displaced adivasis; whether it is Ashish Nandi 
who has the courage to critique a section of society or the portrayal of 
reality by a film like 'Parzania'.  Whilst no "official ban" might have been 
promulgated, the writing on the wall is all too clear.  There are some in this 
State, who would like to maintain the status quo because they know what the 
bosses want!

 

The Gujarat Government would be more honest if it looked at the sub-standard 
textbooks it produces:  of a history which is conveniently distorted and how at 
a very early age the children of the State are fed with warped ideas of the 
other: be it in caste, class, religion and even women. 

 

The country and the world has gone through various phases of banning books and 
films: "The Satanic Verses", 'Da Vinci Code' et al.  A healthy democracy has to 
promote freedom of  thought and expression at every level and must have the 
courage to respect dissenting opinions.  The only ban that could be accepted on 
this freedom is our ability to "ban the ban!"

 

(* Fr. Cedric Prakash SJ is the Director of PRASHANT, the Ahmedabad based 
Jesuit Centre for Human Rights, Justice and Peace.)

 

21st August, 2009

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PRASHANT   (A Centre for Human Rights, Justice and Peace)
Street Address: Hill Nagar, Near Kamdhenu Hall, Drive-in Road, Ahmedabad - 
380052, Gujarat, India
Postal Address: P B 4050, Navrangpura PO, Ahmedabad - 380 009, Gujarat, India



Phone: 91 79   27455913,  66522333
Fax: 91  79  27489018
Email: sjprash...@gmail.com www.humanrightsindia.in

 

Re: [Goanet] Talk on Free/ Open Source Software (FOSS) in Moira on 22/08/2009

[Tony de Sa]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Dear Fred,

I am aware that there are other reasons, but we had to fit our
argument into a single A4 page that could be distributed as a flier in
the local newspaper, as compared to the huge text in your first link,
which we would have had to print and bind books to distribute (might
have been good business for you though)

We intend to talk about the other reasons at the meet, but do you
really think that a pitch on ideological, or reliability, security,
performance, scalability, or TCO (total cost of ownership) would
appealed more to home users than our approach? They are currently
tolerating with abysmal security and doubtful performance with
unlicensed proprietary software. With unlicensed software, their TCO
is anyway zero, so that's not a selling point. i believe you have been
using FOSS for a long time - how many servers and clusters of servers
do you have at home? Don't suggest that home users in our little
village are going to even come near the levels where scalability comes
in as a selling point.

Nobody has said that other good reasons do not exist. We are merely
being practical and highlighting the factors that will engage the
interest of the public at large, who will probably not be bothered
about the other reasons you have indicated.

Again the term "better" is a relative term and as such, is purely
subjective, dependent on one's perceptions and point of view. Let the
attendees of the talk decide what they want to do. Nobody is thrusting FOSS
down their throats. Attend, think over and decide.

Congratulations to Moira Netter and President of the Associacao Academica de
Moira, Romeo Coelho, are in order because he has attempted for the first
time, in Moira, to bring about awareness and understanding to the home user,
that proprietary  software is not the only choice and that there is a whole
world of Open Source Software (Ubuntu has around 25,000 FREE software
packages) for the user to just download and use. Congratulations are also
due to Moira Netter Edgar D'Souza for using his not inconsiderable resources
to facilitate this project.


-- 
Tony de Sa
Ph: +91 832 2470 148
M: +91 9975162897
E:  tonyd...@gmail.com

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
Wm Shakespeare

Re: [Goanet] Job volunteer openings for Goan Hindu urchins

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



This is the temple, now flattened -

http://www.parrikar.org/images/vetaltemple-navelim.jpg


Vetal-bab inside, au naturel -

http://www.parrikar.org/images/vetal-navelim.jpg

At some point I will document all this on my photo blog.


r



- Original Message 
> From: Rajan P. Parrikar 
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:03:30 PM
> Subject: Job volunteer openings for Goan Hindu urchins
> 
> To Goanet -
> 
> A few months back, I was on one of my drives through the Goan 
> countryside when I passed by a pile of rubble around what was 
> clearly a torn down structure. It did not register initially but about 
> 30 seconds later I shrieked to my driver, "Babu, let's go back to 
> that site!"
> 
> We were in Navelim (the one in Bicholim taluka) and the pile of 
> rubbish was the beautiful old Vetal temple built in traditional style. 
> It was a sad and shocking scene.  Clearly it had made way for a 
> 'modern' temple.  No doubt it will be built with PWD & Tata 
> rubbish technology and painted in garish colours.  Fortunately 
> I had photographed the old building a year earlier.  This was to 
> me yet another direct experience of Goa's dismantling in real time.
> 
> In Advalpal, the small ancient Maruti temple with beautiful kaavi 
> artwork lies decrepit.  It is on private property and the mine owner 
> has been dangling the carrot of 'development' to the temple 
> custodian. Such instances of neglect can be indefinitely multiplied.
> 
> In Savoi-Verem the lush green fields right by the Anant temple - they 
> want to convert it into a parking lot. A GODDAM PARKING LOT! 
> Those builders can't keep their hands off even our temples.
> 
> The more famous temple complexes - Mangueshi, Ramnathi, 
> Kavalem - have their own set of issues. The decay has set in. 
> They look more and more commercial and show less of the 
> tranquil, spiritual ambience that we took for granted growing
> up.  What were once open spaces now support hideous clusters 
> of RCC concrete.
> 
> All over India, the idea of the Hindu temple has unraveled - the 
> once-great ancient temples are today mired in squalid surroundings, 
> with hustlers, touts and what-have-you.  The Goan Hindu temple 
> still retains the old charm and quiet.  Soon that will be a thing 
> of the past given the trendlines.
> 
> The upshot - if the thuggish Goan urchins who go about 
> threatening people to uphold Hindu this & that really wanted 
> a day-job, there is a mountain of work waiting to be done 
> right in our backyard.  Have them get in touch with me.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> r