Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview
Because of the wild accusations that the non-historian Gilbert has made against the Goan historian Teotonio De Souza concerning the latter's Deccan Herald Interview I had asked Gilbert to provide us with specific evidence for the following: 1. That Teotonio R. De Souza misrepresented historical facts or gave us biased information regarding the inquisition in his answers to the interviewer. 2. That the sources that Gilbert is referring to for his own information regarding Goan history are genuine scholarly historical sources, and that they are unbiased. 3. That Gilbert himself does not have any conflicts of interest or biases of his own (or declare them if he does e.g. membership in any society or organization which has a stake in having the historical conclusions be slanted a certain way). This is especially important because Gilbert has made such a demand of Teotoniobab, and would not want himself to be perceived as a hypocrite. Now instead of providing this evidence, I notice that in this new post Gilbert continues to resort to innuendo against Teotonio De Souza. What is worse is that this time he lobs the following fabricated charge against Teotoniobab without mentioning his name: "Yet what is outrageous is to link SFX (concerns about colonial abuses) as leading to the abuses of the inquisition; and further using SFX as the reason for the need of an Inquisition museum in Goa." .Gilbert Lawrence In contrast to the above slander, what Teotoniobab actually said is this: "All research related to the Inquisition that played havoc in the lives of Goans needs to be welcomed. The fears are generally unfounded. The Inquisition was not a religious institution, but essentially a political institution for disciplining all colonial subjects. I have more than once proposed the creation of an Inquisition Museum that could be a wonderful instrument of education and would even add to the income of cultural tourism. I think only a prolonged debate over this issue could clear the minds from unwarranted fears and sectarian prejudices." .Teotonio R. De Souza Please note that no mention is made of SFX in connection with the need for an Inquisition Museum. The need for the museum is simply and rightly stated as educational and cultural. No sensible person should object to that. But Gilbert appears to have problem with such a museum, as is evident in the following twit meant to propagate another smear against Teotoniobab: "Living in the West, I see a lot of speculation (a.k.a. 'fresh thinking') by those trying to create a niche for their work; which is so important for academic funding. The inquisition museum in Goa is one such "innovative idea." .Gilbert Lawrence Now tell me why would a man who claims to be a history buff be against a history museum in Goa, and why would he use such a suggestion to question the motives of a historian? I ask Gilbert to correct me if I am wrong about his opposition to such a museum, and to justify his opposition if I am right. And once again, I request him to provide specific evidence for his wild speculations and public accusations against a Goan historian by providing actual quotes, and revealing his own sources and conflicts of interest. If he cannot do so it would be his intellectual and moral responsibility to retract his irresponsible public statements in this thread. Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > I am responding to a point because you wrote it twice, > (see below) and as you edit historical articles; on which > likely you "pass mustard." > > SFX's letters to the king in Lisbon and superiors in > Rome, clearly reflect SFX frustrations with the Portuguese > colonial administration for: > > 1. Colonial Govt. corruption. > 2. Lack of enforcing any legal and moral codes on the > colonialists. > 3. Exploitation of natives. > > The response and support SFX received in reply, from those > to whom he repeatedly wrote, was one of empty-lip service. > Please feel free to contradict me with quotes and > references. This may partly explain Xavier's short stay in > Goa. > > Now you (and others) suggest SFX's letters had a greater > impact after SFX died, than when he was alive. At best, I > would say, SFX's letters were used by the powers-that-be to > further ones agenda, just like his letters are used > today. At worse, claiming that SFX letters were "signposts > for decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa for at least > half a century after his death" is pure hogwash and wild > speculation unless you have govt. documents (which > references SFX letters) which can support this claim. > > Yet what is outrageous is to link SFX (concerns about > colonial abuses) as leading to the abuses of the > inquisition; and further using SFX as the reason for the > need of an Inquisition museum in Goa. > > As a history buff I would look at events in 1555-1560, > specifically at the imminent
Re: [Goanet] A Letter To The Bleddy Goans From An East Indian Bugger (Godfrey Pereira)
On 5 May 2010 17:30, Eugene Correia wrote: > The "bloody" or "bleedy" piece, either taken from elsewhere and posted on > Goanet, provokes debate as well as angers for words that hit at the "nuts." > His language mocks Goans, but perhaps it can be taken as a satirical vein > running through the piece. > No doubt, Goa is undergoing vast changes that affect people in villages and > towns. From the old mining barons to the new Russian mafia kings, Goa is > raped and plundered. In this respect, I agree with Godfrey. > COMMENT: Now that was the best response we have had to the post. I agree, Godfrey meant to provoke Goans into action and out of their slumber - alas to no avail. We Goans shall go the same way as the East Indians - the bleedy buggers! Many overseas residing Goans are taking the easy route or some may say the hard route and selling lock, stock and barrel; they have no option, it is either that or their land and homes are usurped by neighbours and/or relatives. Unfortunately there is no simple choice to own a nice Villa in Goa and at the same time enjoy the lifestyle of living overseas as well. Vivian might be doing it, having his cake and eating it but he is the exception to the rule me thinks. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] TRIBUTE: Remembering Sushruta Agnelo Gomes Martin (Meenacshi Martins)
REMEMBERING SUSHRUTA AGNELO GOMES MARTIN (1961-2010) A tribute is to a popular homeopath who passed away in Goa last week. By Dr Meenacshi Martins meenac...@gmail.com Amidst the bombs exploding and the Indian Army running around in our home, Sushruta decided to arrive prematurely, as if he could not wait to partake in the excitement of the times. A few days after the Liberation of Goa, he was born at the Asilo Hospital, extremely premature, a tiny blue fragile baby. Barely able to walk, I furiously guarded the door, protecting my little brother. A role I had to continue to play for many a decade. With our parents actively involved in the freedom movement, at the time at its feverish peak, Sushruta became my responsibility and I remained his parent-surrogate. Caring for a not-so-easy to comprehend personality was harrowing, but interesting as well. He kept me enthralled with all his tricks and trials all through our childhood. We remained entwined together by destiny. With absent parents, bonding unusually, more than most siblings do. Growing up in a village with fields, rivers and a jungle behind the house, gave an expansive dimension to our brother-sister team that ruled the local children and converted the entire village into a play ground. Hide and seek games used up all houses, barns and wells. Swimming, a routine evening past-time, was from one village to another, Bathmodo to Britona and back. Often chasing leaves, fish or just each other through the back waters of Paitona village in Bardez. Our group was large, may be 20 odd kids, and we all ran a riot during summer vacations. We had a Youth Congress movement going on back then, with full support of the then MP Purushottam Kakodkar, who had given me a seal of the YCC. Sushruta and I would organize meetings in our parents' garage, gather the kids to go around the village, cleaning drains and helping school drop outs. I was six and he was four. I secretly believe that all the children just came for the gram and groundnuts that my mother distributed to them later in the evenings, or even the occasional batat kappas or shrikhand and puri that she would bring home from Mapusa. There were many a quieter moment that we spent somewhere in the wilderness of our backyard. We would take a tiffin of canji and raw mango pickle, packed by our most bewildered grandmother, and spend an entire day somewhere up in the caves, perched on tree tops, in rain water storm drains or by the river side. What we talked about the whole day, just the two of us, beats me. But we talked and talked. As he grew older, my responsibility just kept mounting. That I was required to sit with a young child who played around with a soldering iron, building radios from a kit I had to order by post, was taxing, to say in the least. But I would buy him his kits for repairs of various things he thought he should do. Radios, watches, recorders, cycles, scooter, just about anything, with me as his assistant. When the village got electrified, he at the age of twelve decided to wire our home with a three phase supply with the help of an old uncle and me, on tall ladders. I would sort out the wires and pass them around, while he did he connections. It was remarkable for a 12-year-old child to embark with great confidence in things that are rarely a domain of children. Yet the watch repair shop in Mapusa would keep the most expensive and rare watches for Sushruta to repair after school hours. Never mind the fact that at the time he had difficulty saying the seven-times table. He was hardly coping with school studies but preferred to sit at Baba's photo studio rather than be in class. Around that time, we also managed to save Rs 25 to buy our first camera. It was a 120 mm box thing with an external flash, the one with acid and bulbs. And we embarked on our passion for photography. Converting one bathroom into a dark room, we developed all our prints at home. I had a pact with him. For every film exposed, he had to take a few of my photographs. The result is known to many. Some of my most exclusive pictures were taken by my brother at home. Then he bought a Zeiss enlarger, and a new world opened up. He knew the camera so well and easily out-smarted me in technology and the sensitivity required of photography. His sensitivity came through even as a child. He was ultra caring and kind and generous to the point of irrationality. He would liberally give our home items to people and to whosoever came to my mother's clinic at home. If people returned the things he would cry. His tearful explanations were so simplistic. The fisherwomen needed the sandals more than my father did. Or the labourer, a rain coat which my father could always b
[Goanet] Is there a code of conduct for ministers who hold posts in sports associations?
Is there a code of conduct for ministers who hold posts in sports associations? That's what the Bombay High Court has asked the union government to explain. Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/news/sports/court-questions-ministers-holding-posts-in-sports-bodies-23334.php?u=2310&cp rene barreto WORLD GOA DAY WORLD ALLAINCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS =
[Goanet] In defence of JoeGoauk - to Samir
> > From: Samir Kelekar > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] In defence of JoeGoauk - to Samir > Message-ID: <449282.55471...@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Samir: > Hence, please note the caveat in my post. I said "correct me > if I am wrong". Secondly, I was least bothered about announcing > this in public and only because Selma fervently defended you, > I posted this. > > vjp: Come on Samir. You actually say that you posted it "only because Selma fervently defended you (JoeGoauk)". Why let your mind be propelled into thought at her name. I mean this was about JueGoauk. JoeGoauk > >About copyright violations, I do agree it is wrong to film no matter how > small or > >no matter what the person intends to do with it, no matter if it is for > profit or loss.? > >Theft is a theft no matter how small or no matter how clean one?s > conscious is. > > Samir: > So, you agree you have been a thief ! > vjp: Did you have to say this? The entity JoeGoauk said the above. Take it at face value and respect the being. But you simply had to repeat it --- even if meant rhetorically? Come on bro? Why? What does it gain anyone. Even a shred of peace of mind bro?! venantius
Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview
I guess I'll have to disappoint you. At age 80 yrs I may simply have to 'wallow in my hogwash'. I'm not able to come up with citations. Having gone through several thousands of lines about the early colonial period I simply had an intuitive feeling that even Xavier himself had less than cordial feelings about upper caste natives and may well have recommended that colonial policy should see that they did not slide back into their 'superstitions and idolotories'. I even have a vague feeling that I read somewhere that he did make a recommend of that sort---but I suppose that is tantamount to blasphemy, and proof that the old divil hisself is on my trail. I suppose I'm in the wrong space here. Had the idea that these dialogue sites are pretty well open to all comers and that academic criteria doesn't prevail so much. Having followed Dr. Teotonio's work in local media I felt that the kind of criticism I saw from you was a 'rush to judgement'; but you have, perhaps quite rightly 'hoisted me on my own petard'. Surrounded by people who are so RIGHT, I should perhaps unsubscribe. On 5/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > I am responding to a point because you wrote it twice, (see below) and as > you edit historical articles; on which likely you "pass mustard." > > SFX's letters to the king in Lisbon and superiors in Rome, clearly reflect > SFX frustrations with the Portuguese colonial administration for: > > 1. Colonial Govt. corruption. > 2. Lack of enforcing any legal and moral codes on the colonialists. > 3. Exploitation of natives. > > The response and support SFX received in reply, from those to whom he > repeatedly wrote, was one of empty-lip service. Please feel free to > contradict me with quotes and references. This may partly explain Xavier's > short stay in Goa. > > Now you (and others) suggest SFX's letters had a greater impact after SFX > died, than when he was alive. At best, I would say, SFX's letters were used > by the powers-that-be to further ones agenda, just like his letters are used > today. At worse, claiming that SFX letters were "signposts for > decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa for at least half a century after > his death" is pure hogwash and wild speculation unless you have > govt. documents (which references SFX letters) which can support this > claim. > > Yet what is outrageous is to link SFX (concerns about colonial abuses) as > leading to the abuses of the inquisition; and further using SFX as the > reason for the need of an Inquisition museum in Goa. > > As a history buff I would look at events in 1555-1560, specifically at the > imminent dangers in 1560, to the causes(s) for introducing the Inquisition; > rather than relying of documents/ letters received 17 years earlier, which > could well have been gathering dust. > > As Goans we know that Teo is doing the best he can. Hence we give him the > benefit of the doubt. With what you have written twice, Teo's writings are > more aimed to please Western academic speculative interest. Living in the > West, I see a lot of speculation (a.k.a. 'fresh thinking') by those trying > to create a niche for their work; which is so important for academic > funding. The inquisition museum in Goa is one such "innovative idea." > > Saying goes, "We may have been born at night; but we were not been born > LAST NIGHT." I hope we can see responses to questions to you in several > posts. Those responses should be easy for you with "extensive reading > occasioned by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical > writing." > > Regards, GL > > --- Dan Driscoll > > Might I venture an opinion, after some fairly extensive reading occasioned > by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical writing: > > The link between Xavier's encouragement of inquisitorial policy in India > and the time of his departure and eventual demise may be quite unaffected by > the time dimension. Xavier was basically an Administrator (Provincial > Superior) in Goa, and his recommendations (right down to his marginal notes) > would have been the signposts for decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa > for at least half a century after his death. > > Dr. Theotonio De Souza, But we must not expect infallibility or total > objectivity from him either. He has a difficult job to do, and he's doing it > as best he can. > > --- DAN DRISCOLL > > I would say that the relationship between implementation of the > inquisitiorial policy in the Region and the dating of Xavier's departure and > eventual death need not at all negate his influence in the matter. I suspect > that very little of any decision-making that came out of Rome and Lisboa for > up to half a century after Xavier's passing would have been without heavy > reliance on his judgement. Xavier and Ignatius were like two blood brothers. > > > >
Re: [Goanet] In defence of JOEGOAUK
Rajesh Dessai wrote: With such a lot of talk going on about copyright, I just wonder if anyone of the writers has personally experienced , or knows about the procedures for copyright registration in India. The procedures are very lengthy and long drawn. At times it takes a few years for the copyright to be registered in India. It is not an easy or simple process. It is not enough for a music producer to claim that his product is covered by copyright, as is the case with most of the music cd's available on the shelves in India. I don't think the information given above is correct. Copyright is automatic, on the creation of a work (it can be registered too, but in any case, the process of creating a work leads to it being 'copyrighted'): QUOTE Is it necessary to register a work to claim copyright? No. Acquisition of copyright is automatic and it does not require any formality. However, certificate of registration of copyright and the entries made therein serve as prima facie evidence in a court of law with reference to dispute relating to ownership of copyright. What is the procedure for registration of a work under the Copyright Act,1957? Copyright comes into existence as soon as a work is created and no formality is required to be completed for acquiring copyright. However, facilities exist for having the work registered in the Register of Copyrights maintained in the Copyright Office of the Department of Education. The entries made in the Register of Copyrights serve as prima-facie evidence in the court of law. The Copyright Office has been set up to provide registration facilities to all types of works and is headed by a Registrar of Copyrights and is located at B.2/W.3, C.R. Barracks, Kasturba Gandhi Marg, New Delhi- 110 003, Tel: 338 4387 UNQUOTE SOURCE: http://www.education.nic.in/copyright.asp I also believe India took a more cautious approach towards copyright in the past, though now we all want to make a fast buck out of it (and use it against people we don't like for whatever purpose :-)) Is it not true that strict application of the principle of protection of copyright hampers economic and cultural development of the society? Yes. If copyright protection is applied rigidly, it can hamper progress of the society. However, copyright laws are enacted with necessary exceptions and limitations to ensure that a balance is maintained between the interests of the creators and of the community. [Same website.] FN
Re: [Goanet] A Letter To The Bleddy Goans From An East Indian Bugger (Godfrey Pereira)
The "bloody" or "bleedy" piece, either taken from elsewhere and posted on Goanet, provokes debate as well as angers for words that hit at the "nuts." His language mocks Goans, but perhaps it can be taken as a satirical vein running through the piece. No doubt, Goa is undergoing vast changes that affect people in villages and towns. From the old mining barons to the new Russian mafia kings, Goa is raped and plundered. In this respect, I agree with Godfrey. With the same token, Bombay has undergone changes that should also wake up the East Indians. Check the East Indian strongholds from Mahim to Virar and one is shocked to see that East Indian lands are now in the possession of big builders. Hundreds of East Indians have sold their houses and lands to these builders for good bucks and in return to a flat, whether one-bedroom one or more, in a high-rise building. Even in East Indian pockets in the city, such as Cavel, Kothachiwadi, Matharpacady, Mazagoan, to mentions but a few, East Indian colonial houses have given way to modern buildings. Money can buy anything. In this sense, Goans have been also selling their lands to the rich from Mumbai and Delhi. After Liberation, Goa became ripe for the picking. One cannot fault outsiders lusting over Goa's pristine land. The slow train of people from other parts have now become a tide. Can Goans stem the tide? Looking at the issue constitutionally, I don't see any remedies. Arwin, however, has some. What Godfrey has failed to notice is that NGOs in Goa are putting up a fight to save Goa. It is a long, hard fight. Godfrey cannot expect each and every Goan to rise up to the cause and march to Panaji or go on a hunger strike. The Narmada Valley issue is a pointer. Despite valiant fight by those wanting to prevent the dam, their efforts bore little or no fruits. Those who have been following what the Goan NGOs are doing perhaps have a scorecard where they have won, scored little success or failed. Let's not get our "nuts" in a twist because of Godfrey's views. He could a gadfly, and as much as he has annoyed us by sitting on our noses or sniping or smelling our nuts we should just swap it with an well-documented and well-argued rebuttal. East Indians lament that their beloved Mumbai has been taken over by the Maharashtrians. And if we make sense of what Godfrey says, we may come to lament Goa's passing into the hands of "outsiders", as many hardcore Goans called these "new Goans." Let's not forget that Goans are screwing Goans, some of them robbing land or other property on the pretext of a lie. Some of these Goans project themselves as honest Goans or doing great voluntary service to Goans. We have seen family members or friends robbing each other of houses and other property. If we cannot be honest and true to each other, how can we expect non-Goans to be respectful, law-abiding and honest in their intentions? We can never learn the ulterior motives these people have just as we don't know the ulterior motives friends or just long-time acquitances have till they turn on you. I have recent experience where I have been falsely turned into a "liar" and from a "victim" to a "culprit". So, each of us Goan must be honest and true to oneself. . Eugene PS: I think I know Godfrey as a journalist and I am bit unsure if he was in college with me.
[Goanet] Need to Save Goa for Future Generations
*http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/letters-editor-43* *Need to Save Goa for Future Generations *GOA was loved by tourists because of its scenic beauty, its natural green environment, clean beaches and hospitality of the local Goans. But alas, all this will be gone in a few years. Just look at the pace at which the greenery of Goa is being destroyed. Are the concrete jungles essential? And for whom? Can Goa sustain the influx of heavy-pocketed people from other states? How is the government going to cater to the needs of these people? Think about the amount of garbage that is going to be produced. What are we going to leave our children–polluted air, litter-strewn beaches, unsafe chaotic roads, consistent power shutdowns and restricted water supply? Will they ever be able to visualise a green Goa? How can the government turn a blind eye to the influx of non-Goans? Non-Goans in Goa have outnumbered the Goans and our very identity is at stake. The immigrants have started their own organisations to propagate their language and their culture in Goa. Is parasitism of cultures justifiable? The price of land has gone way beyond the reach of the common man. What is the government doing about all this? I fully agree with Mr Seshagiri Raghu Kumar who voiced his concern for Goa in the letter ‘Save Goa’ (NT, April 29). Goa is not a destination for employment like the metros of India. It is basically a tourist destination and the government should do all it can to save the natural environment of Goa. It should develop policies to safeguard the interest of Goans in the employment sector by reserving 90 per cent quota for Goans before issuing permission for industries, hotels etc. Are any of our Goan leaders listening? More importantly, will they take the necessary action to save Goa? NANDINI VAZ FERNANDES, Margao -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO to discuss the Pre-draft CRZ Notification 2010 & the special status for Goa.
-- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO the fortnightly discussion event since 1999 --- Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 14th May from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa. TOPIC: Pre-draft CRZ Notification 2010 & the special status for Goa. SPEAKER: Sujeetkumar M. Dongre, Officer In Charge, Goa State Office - Centre for Environment Education (CEE). We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the FRIDAY BALCAO If you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by email to goad...@gmail.com best wishes, Roland Martins --- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! --- GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail to: goad...@gmail.com
[Goanet] One meets watery grave in Pale
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM MAY 4: A Sunday trip to nearby river turned tragic for a 45 year old person from Ambeshi Pali when he was drowned in the river. According to the available information the incident occurred on Sunday at about 5.00 pm. One Raguvir Jana Gawde (45) from Ambeshi Pali along with three of his friends went to nearby river for picnic. In the evening Raguvir was drowned in the river. The search by his friends proved futile today his body was recovered in the river. PSI, T P Walke is further investigating the case.
[Goanet] TIATR, TIATR: Backstage at maRIO MENEZES's Fattlean Poi
Backstage at maRIO MENEZES's Fattlean Poi (May 4, 2010) Goa tiatr tragedy king maRIO MENEZES's latest tiat is Fattlean Poi (Look Behind Yourself). Here, we talk to some dramatists offstage and get a few glimpses on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFa2d9S6M08&feature=autofb Photos from the tiatr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623868555021/ Frederick Noronha Books from Goa :: http://goa1556.goa-india.org
[Goanet] In defence of JOEGOAUK
Selma wrote: dear Samir, I do believe in copyright but I don't believe that JoeGoaUk used the internet for "commercial purposes' and made money off his postings.?I also think we have to view this in light of the service that JoeGoaUk does provide, the video documenting and photographs he disseminates without any charge. Herald has often used his photographs without even given him credit for it, and he has not made a hue and?cry about it. He has provided his services free of cost when Rajan Parrikar needed documentary evidence of vagrancy around Panjim. To hang him out to dry now, is not being a good Goan. If tiatrists are being affected by his posting of their artistic imput then a simple private warning would have sufficed. Afterall, he is available on email even if he is an unknown entity. _ I agree with Selma that JoeGoaUk did not use the internet for 'commercial purposes' etc etc... It is also true that Herald used his photographs without giving him credit etc. [Incidentally, he did make a huge hue and cry about it] However, we have a law, and laws are there for a purpose, and no one is above the law, no one including our friend JoeGoaUK. I dont think for a moment that Joe had ulterior or financial motives for the work he has done, But the fact remains that if a product is covered and registered under copyright laws, then it is imperative that the applicable fees are paid or in some cases, permission obtained from the holder of copyright. There are some exceptions that have to be considered, and I will come to that later. With such a lot of talk going on about copyright, I just wonder if anyone of the writers has personally experienced , or knows about the procedures for copyright registration in India. The procedures are very lengthy and long drawn. At times it takes a few years for the copyright to be registered in India. It is not an easy or simple process. It is not enough for a music producer to claim that his product is covered by copyright, as is the case with most of the music cd's available on the shelves in India. Further, can anyone say for sure that JoeGoaUK is actually copying a product covered under copyright, or is he doing a recording at a public performance? If he is recording at a public performance, he is within his legal rights to use a recorder and record the show. I do know of many organisers prohibiting the use of recorders at shows. If the prohibition is published on the ticket or pamphlet, it is valid, but in most cases, the organisers tend to use personal enforcers. In order to protect the interests of users, some exemptions have been prescribed in respect of specific uses of works enjoying copyright. Subject to certain conditions, a fair deal for research, study, criticism, review and news reporting, as well as use of works in library and schools and in the legislatures, is permitted without specific permission of the copyright owners. Some of the exemptions are the uses of the work * for the purpose of research or private study, * for criticism or review, * for reporting current events, * in connection with judicial proceeding, * performance by an amateur club or society if the performance is given to a non-paying audience, and * the making of sound recordings of literary, dramatic or musical works under certain conditions. The above is actually an extract from the Copyright Act 1957. So you see, we can give our friend JoeGoaUK some leeway here!!! Rules can be bent and broken, but it is best in everyone's interest to abide by the rule of law. As for JoeGoaUK, my message to him is to be careful with what he does. One of these days he is going to be trapped, and he cannot hide under his annonymous guise because many people already know who he is. He is doing a great job, yeoman service for Goa, but that will not be enough to cover his back should someone decide to gun for him. Good luck JoeGoaUK: May there be many more clones of you in Goa. Goa needs you.
[Goanet] 13 plants that could kill you: Apples | MNN - Mother Nature Network
These plants among others or their seeds could kill you. More here 'Mother Nature Network' C http://www.mnn.com/food/organic-farming/photos/13-plants-that-could-kill-you/apples#image
[Goanet] Underestimating the healing power of the mind
Mind a powerful healing tool. 'Healthier Talk' C http://www.healthiertalk.com/underestimating-healing-power-mind-1735
[Goanet] Foodie's Favourites ... a blog from Goa
* Solkadi * Scotch Eggs * Prawn Vindaloo * Palak Paneer * Scrambled Eggs * Fish & Chips * Traditional English Trifle ... and more. http://foodiesfavourites.blogspot.com/ Send feedback to: taurus20...@gmail.com
[Goanet] May 2010 issue of Gulab hits the stands
May issue of Gulab hits the news stand The May 2010 issue of Goa's most popular Konkani monthly GULAB hits the news stand. This issue carries a special feature on today's eating habits and it's effect on health. The editorial 'Aichim Jevnnam-khannam Ani Bholaiki' gives a blow by blow account of unhealthy preparations and preservation of foods today and their ill-effects on health. Soter Barreto in his article 'Fast Foods Amche Tornne Pillgek Girastolim Kai? highlights the addiction of the youth towards the fast food, while Vincy Quadros in his article 'Bhailim Khannam, Jevnnam ani Pivonnam' dwells on the habit of today's families preference of consuming junk food or food prepared outside to the one being prepared in their own kitchens at home. This issue also carries Dilip Borkar's cover story on the Goan politicians holding the public to ransom - 'Konn Soddoit Amkam Hea Chopkeantlean!', besides thought provoking articles by the stalwarts Cursino R. Pinho, Sudha Amonkar, John M. Alfonso, Felix P. da Cruz, Guadalupe Dias, Willy Goes, Felicio Cardozo, John Aguiar etc. It also features an interview with Konkani Tiatr personality Chitra Shirvoikar e Afonso and short stories of Mahableshwar Sail 'Robotic Warfare' and Hema Naik's 'Benul'l' Priced at Rs. 15/- this issue is available in Goa and Mumbai. For more details kindly contact 9821228684. May mhoineacho Gulab ful'lo GULAB hea lovkik Gõychea mhoinalleacho May mhoineacho ank bhair sorlo. Hea ankant aichea kallar bhailim jevnnam jevtat te udexim kitem borem ani kitem ani kitlem vaitt zaum yeta tache voir uzvadd ghalpacho yotn kela. 'Aichim Jevnnam-khannam Ani Bholaiki' hea ogrlekhant aiz-kal jevnnam koxim toyar kortat ani te vorvim mon'xache bholaikecher koslo vaitt porinnam' zata tem dakhoilam. Soter Barreto hanchea 'Fast Foods Amche Tornne Pillgek Girastolim Kai? hea lekhant aichi pillgi 'fast food' hankam koxi boli poddlea tem uktadar kelam zalear 'Bhailim Khannam, Jevnnam ani Pivonnam' hea aplea lekhant Vincy Quadros hannim aiche ghorabe aplea ghorant randpachem soddun bhaileam jevnnam-khannank koxim bhul'leant te vixim uzvadd ghatla. Hea ankant Bab Dilip Borkar hachi 'Konn Soddoit Amkam Hea Chopkeantlean!', hi kovor kanni asa zantun to porjen vinchun kaddlole porjeche protinidhi aple porjek ani Gõyak koxe lutt'ttat tacher niyall dila. He xivay lovkik Konknni borovpi Cursino R. Pinho, Sudha S. Amonkar, John M. Alfonso, Felix P. da Cruz, Guadalupe Dias, Felicio Cardoso, Willy Goes, John Aguiar adi. hanche moladik lekh hea ankant aspavtat. Xivay Konknni machiechi kolakarn Chitra Shirvoikar e Afonso hiche lagim mulakhot ani Mahableshwar Sail hachi 'Robotic Warfare' ani Hema Naik hichi 'Benul'l' heo mottveo kotha aspavtat. Hem ank 15 rupia molan Gõy toxem Mumboint vikrek asa. Odhik mahiti khatir sompork korum yeta 9821228684 hea ankddear.
[Goanet] Drugs And Condoms Found In School Bags
Drugs And Condoms Found In School Bags Page 2 of Herald dated 5th May'10, has an article captioned "Tourism ill-effects affecting children in Canacona," It is a bleak reminder that "all is not well with our children today". It is not just in Canacona, the deadly epidemic has engulfed the whole of Goa and not just limited to the coastal belt. It was indeed shocking to know that children were carrying drugs and condoms in their school bags, were they going to school or a rave party ? It is not just the duty of the teachers to be vigilant but it is the moral responsibility of the parents and the home people to see, what their children are up to and should by all means know what they carry to school. How is it possible that the parents are unaware of their kids involvement in drugs, drug addiction is so very obvious. If parents and the home people cannot detect then how do we expect the teachers to do it ? No doubt some schools and teachers are sometimes offenders, when they try to hide such things because of adverse publicity to their institutions, but they should know that morality and the wellbeing of children is far more important than their reputation and as such these cases should be dealt with accordingly. Goans in coastal areas have to be extra vigilant and take utmost care that their loved ones do not fall prey to the glitter of drugs and sex. I have seen a lot of people along the coast, hire their houses to the tourists and they themselves live in sheds, that too has an adverse effect on the kids, who then value money more than life. We should not make money our prime objective. NGO's and organizations are trying their best to educate children on the ills of drugs and casual sex. It is of paramount importance that the parents take up this cause for their children. Where is the Home Minister that said, that there were no drugs in Goa ? Has reality hit him in the face or is he still in wonderland ? It is the responsibility of Home Department and the duty of the security services to keep our streets and neighbourhoods clean and clear off the unhealthy elements of society trading in drugs and sex. With the nexus between the police and the drug lords being exposed, the police have been hit where it hurts, hope they will do all they can to resurrect themselves from the ashes of disgrace and prove themselves honest and competent. After the exposure of the police, we await the exposure of the politicians involved in the garbage pile, I won't be surprised, if it involves the next of kin of the moron who said "No drugs in Goa" If money is lost - nothing is lost, if health is lost - also, nothing is lost, but if the innocence of our children is lost - everything is lost ! Wake up Goan parents and be vigilant. During our younger day at school, mom made sure we had a holy picture in our bag as we made off for the boarding, who knew about drugs and condoms then ? Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] CBC News Indepth: Meditation
More proof about the tremendous benefits of Meditation. CBS News . C http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/meditation/
[Goanet] When tiatrists encounter cyberspace ... Was: Re: Goan Observer, Rajan Narayan and his stray thoughts
JoeGoaUk wrote: > Fyi, JoeGoaUk (since 2004) only promotes the new arrival of VCDs with > scanned copy of the VCDs Front Cover and with the names of the > director/producer, other artistes, price tag and the month/year in > which it was released. > JoeGoaUk does not sell VCDs As happens with many issues, this one too is getting confused with so many allegations, "facts" and controversies being raked up, often based on a misunderstanding of the ground reality. For one, I don't understand how the VCD issue got mixed up with the tiatr one. These are obviously very different concerns. As far as the tiatrs go, here's one example of JoeGoaUk's postings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5K-ZQZj61s&feature=related It is far from a "complete recording" of the tiatr (as Samir suggested) and is what JoeGoaUk calls a "trailer". Personally, I too see it as an introduction to the tiatr, meant to whet the potential audience's appetite, while giving full credit to the producer of the work and all the participating artistes. It is similar to the book reviews I do. There is an element of quoting from the work, including short excerpts. The source is clearly mentioned; stating where the book is available would hopefully help the author/publisher to sell some copies. [For the record, I also believe in sharing my own work, where possible. Some of our books published by Goa,1556 are available in full-text on the Net. This helps to *increase* interest in the book, rather than detract from it. In my experience, it helps to build sales, not reduce it. But such counter-intuitive logic takes time for it to be convincing.] The issue of copyright for theatre has been widely studied, in other parts of the world too. For instance: http://lecatr.people.wm.edu/copy.htm But the formal law is one thing, and undertstading what is in our best interest in another thing. For instance, I could use a "Copyright" under my photographs. But the bulk of my work use a Creative Commons "some conditions apply" license, which allows free reproduction for non-commercial purposes BUT with attribution. The question is whether the tiatrists feel that such brief recordings help their work or detract from it. Does it help build awareness about their productions, or make their audiences shrink? I doubt it would be the latter case, though the proliferation of copyright-thinking makes us want to copyright anything within our grasp! As I see it, for smaller cultures, the bigger threat is from *obscurity*, rather than "piracy". The feeling I got from the April 17, 2010 discussion was that the tiatrists' attitude was ambivalent, if slightly tilting towards wanting the publicity too. This is all new technology. The Internet, as we know it, was not here for much of our adult life (except for the youngsters!) The tiatrist's job is in the auditorium, and the lack of an understanding of how cyberspace works only complicates things further. At the TAG (Tiatr Academy of Goa) discussion, the tiatrists were more than willing to concede that they did benefit from some publicity in cyberspace. Some spoke about "unauthorised" recordings, and felt that it should be done "properly". (Privately, they'll willing to concede that it's too costly -- and probably not worth their while -- to do a professional recording, from which they see no immediate returns anyway.) At the same time, some tiatr tickets today carry a footnote which reads, "Video/mobile/camera recording of this tiatr or any part of it is STRICTLY NOT PERMITTED." To my mind, it would make more sense if the tiatrists entered into a creative dialogue to see how the new cybertechnologies could help their work and their art, rather than perceiving it just as a threat. One or two persons who spoke seemed a bit miffed that they didn't quite know who JoeGoaUk was (because of his preference for anonymity). One person even felt that I should know who JoeGoaUk is, because, in any case, I'm spending a lot of time online :-) If JoeGoaUk wants to spread awareness about Goa's cultural diversity behind anonymity, I think we're wasting our time focusing on this part of the debate. The big challenge is for traditional cultural products of Goa to be able to become visible globally in a cyber-age. Needless to say, it will take some convincing before residual fears on this account are dealt with. In the meantime, I guess, anyone wanting to settle scores can use such issues, and marshall some half-facts, to rake up needless controversy. JoeGoaUk, I think the true test on whether you're doing something positive or not, and whether your work is being effective, is that people sit up, take note, and start taking pot-shots. When this first hit me, I was quite taken aback! Now, I smile, sometimes have a good hearty laugh (it's entertainment without tax!), and just think to myself: "Sour grapes!" Don't let it bother you. Just keep on doing what you're best at
[Goanet] Seasonal fruits in Herald today
Today's (5/5/10) Herald carried 11 of the pics on page 14 One may be able to view it here http://oheraldo.in/E-Paper Particularly those who unable to view in flickr. Thanks to Herald did you know? A Goan from abroad asked me if I could re-send all the originals pics with high resolution to him so that he can print them and put up in his living room/house joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Saby, smile please!
One either has Balls/ the Balls or one doesn't Some have them, some do not; others do not know about theirs. What could they be. They are balls or gunteo. Sebastian D'Souza (Mirror Photo Ed.) had the cohones and presence of mind (also, Madhukar Zende, CST Station Master) on Nov 26, 2008 as did Sriram Vernekar (TOI). Considering that women are up there on the ballsy-meter and rightfully so; its time those men who have indeed lost theirs, find them soon. Decide once and for all venantius j pinto * * > From: Marshall Mendonza > Subject: [Goanet] Saby, smile please! > > If a picture is worth a thousand words, Mumbai Mirror photographer > Sebastian > D?Souza deserves a Booker. > (DEL) > > Highlighting the fact that Saby courageously followed Qasab and Ismail > inside CST station, Tahaliyani said the Mirror photo editor took various > positions to click the terrorist duo. ?The positions taken by D?Souza and > how he went from one end of the station to the other to track Qasab and > capture images have been duly considered while accepting D?Souza?s crucial > evidence,? he said. > (DEL) > On June 15, when Saby deposed against Qasab and identified him as the > ?short > guy? of the three sitting in the dock, the photographer with an > ever-smiling > face had said chuckling, ?How can I forget him? He made me famous.? > > > http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page=article§id=2&contentid=20100504201005040237328583a992712 > >
[Goanet] (no subject)
Worth reading: *Safe Swiss Passage* http://www.tehelka.com/story_main44.asp?filename=Bu080510Safe_Swiss.asp venantius j pinto Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 18:20:57 -0400 > From: Zenade Peu > > To Goanet > (deL) > Indian people have read and have known about these facts. But the > helpless people have neither time nor inclination to do anything in the > matter. > > >
[Goanet] Goa Mining Poster, Maps at Public Display in Bangalore
Please click the links below for the poster on mining in Goa: http://maps4change.cis-india.org/images/f/fb/Goa_Mining_Belt.pdf There is also reference to maps in this poster. The following are online maps: 1. Goa Mining Belt http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&source=embed&msa=0&msid=110567999679666203830.00047bde78a1fda435bd2&ll=15.593691,73.92314&spn=0.040426,0.077162&z=14 2. Panchwadi exclusive roads for mining through forest http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&source=embed&msa=0&msid=110567999679666203830.000480916f4b62dbfae9a&ll=15.308857,74.067764&spn=0.081295,0.154324&z=13 3. Mining in catchment area of Selaulim dam in Sanguem http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&source=embed&msa=0&msid=110567999679666203830.00047df770931ddc0ac13&z=12 The above got generated during series of three maps for making change workshops between December 2009 to April 2010. The workshops were organised in Delhi, Ahmadebad and Bangalore and participated by around 40 people from all age groups and varied backgrounds learning to maps and redefine cartography itself at the same time with inputs from resources available via new media. I was able to attend two these workshops one in Delhi on December 03, 2009 and another one in Bangalore on April 26-28, 2010. These were outcomes of joint collaboration between Centre of Internet and Society based in Bangalore and London based Tactical Technologies. My work on maps was made possible due to overwhelming public support in Goa and support in the form of Global Green Funds, USA for for the year 2009-2010. My thanks to Manshi Asher who got me to take GGF that made me to explore the GPS tool in more relaxed manner, Abhijit and Gaurav who came in as independent collaborators on maps and added important content to them and also more collaborators. Their enthusiasm and input has made this mapping project as one of the important ones as far as community participation is concerned. Thank you guys! I received whole heated support from GAKUVED team, people from Colamb village in Sanguem and Panchwadi village in Ponda. I remain committed in struggle shoulder to shoulder with these villagers symbolize and signify. Anja, Geetanjali, Kate, Pradeep, Namrata, Aliya, Madhuresh has been very helpful in teasing my talents out to get this out of me while at workshop in Bangalore. I thank all you folks! Maps are made by using Google API maps with GPS data added on to them. They can be accessed by clicking respective links and can also viewed in Google Earth. Each waypoint generates independent weblinks that can be used as and how users desires to maneuver. By the way this is second poster on this theme. The first poster Goa mining and metal sensitivity was displayed in Barcelona, Spain during 27-29 March 2010 and it is available at the following links: http://www.degrowth.eu/v1/uploads/media/Rodrigues_degrowth_poster_100318.pdf You may write to me with feedbacks and suggestion at sebydesio...@hotmail.com. They are eagerly awaited to be welcomed! Sebastian Rodrigues http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2010/05/mining-poster-maps-at-public-display-in.html _ Catch the latest in the world of fashion http://lifestyle.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] Trail of Borate
To Goanet - http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2010/05/05/trail-of-borate-death-valley r
[Goanet] Celebrating Jaijai's Birthday Today ~ Cinco de Mayo!
A message to all members of THE JAZZ NETWORK WORLDWIDE Celebrating my life...my moments...my heart...Best birthday present I could have is to see all of you take chances in your careers that you've never taken...Fly...God Bless You All...Love,Jaijai Visit THE JAZZ NETWORK WORLDWIDE at: http://www.thejazznetworkworldwide.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network To control which emails you receive on the corner, or to opt-out, go to: http://www.thejazznetworkworldwide.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings?xg_source=msg_mes_network
[Goanet] WASTE MANAGEMENT:Exhibition cum Demonstration by GOACAN at Margao on Thursday 6th May
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. - -- Exhibition cum Demonstration at Margao on WASTE MANAGEMENT on 6th May -- GOACAN in collaboration with the Civic and Consumer Forums of Salcete is organising an Exhibition cum Demonstration on low cost & environmentally friendly methods of WASTE MANAGEMENT with special focus on segregation of toxic waste and the safe disposal of mercury. The exhibition will be held on Thursday 6th May at the Municipal Garden, Margao from 10am to 6pm. This activity is being especially organised to help households find ways & means to manage waste. Housing Societies & Housing Associations will find the information useful as it would also cater to the individual flat owners as well. The exhibition will also cover the use of Consumer Power to reduce and eventually manage waste. The exhibition seeks to create awareness on waste management among the students & youth, Mahila Mandals, Self Help Groups, neighbourhood Associations & Clubs from Margao and the surrounding villages of Salcete Taluka. Clinton Vaz, environmentalist and Waste Management Consultant will be present to offer guidance at the exhibition. -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: goa...@gmail.com Visit: http://goacan.blogspot.com --
[Goanet] SC scraps Mauvin Godinho’s power reba te
SC scraps Mauvin Godinho’s power rebate Now what do our Goan Ministers think they are up to? Yet another con-scheme by that crook Mauvin Godinho, who from his generosity breaks all the rules in the books and decides that his largesse and kindness to his beneficiaries to the tune of Rs. 50 crores should benefit who he chooses to reward! You can well imagine what he would have pocketed consequently. All thieves and crooks masquerading as our Goan Ministers! Here the Supreme Court has ruled on this. This is from The Times of India. *** SC scraps Mauvin Godinho’s power rebate TNN, May 5, 2010, 03.00am IST PANAJI: In a major reprieve to the Goa government that faced claims in excess of Rs 50 crore made by industrial units based on power rebate notifications issued by former power minister and current deputy speaker Mauvin Godinho in 1996 bypassing the cabinet, the Supreme Court on Monday held the notifications invalid as there was no cabinet approval as required under the state's business rules. A few industrial units had approached the Supreme Court after the high court of Bombay at Goa in 2001 held that the notifications were null and void as they were not issued in accordance with the business rules. The HC order affected the power rebate claim of the units under the 1996 notifications. The HC verdict was an outcome of a writ petition filed by opposition leader Manohar Parrikar in 1998. Upholding the high court order, a division bench comprising Justices R V Raveendran and H L Dattu observed, "Neither did the minister of power think it is proper and appropriate to place the proposals before the council of ministers or the chief minister, nor did the secretary concerned deem it appropriate to do so. The proposals were finalized by the power minister at his level as per the modifications suggested by him on 30.7.1996 which in our opinion are in violation of the business rules." During the hearing of the matter in the apex court, the industrial units raised a plea that violation of conduct of business rules does not vitiate the minister's decision, since the business rules are only directives and not mandatory.
[Goanet] Goan Observer, Rajan Narayan and his stray thoughts
Goan Observer, Rajan Narayan and his stray thoughts Ref. GO dtd 1-7 May 2010 First time I come to know that JoeGoaUk figured in Rajan Narayan’s Straight Thoughts when I read a post in goajourno forum forwaded by Agusto Pinto on May 3. Thenafter I also got a mail by the same Agusto with diff subject line but copied to about 50 others. After I finished responding to it (cc to all) see quote 2 below, few hours later, the same also appeared on Goanet, again by Agusto Pinto. Yesterday, I bought the Copy of GO, and found out more about it. It really surprised me to see RN besides taking on FN also took on JoeGoaUk. Perhaps, he ran out of all other ‘Save Goa’ or politicians related issues or thoughts. Also, it appears that RN, while writing his thoughts, referred to some other published source (not being his own or GO’s) and hence it appears that he did not know what he was talking about. Particularly, when he accused JoeGoaUk of ‘posting Konkani CDs without any permission of those who have brought out the CDs’ What CDs he was talking about, audio or VCDs? It clearly reveals whatever information he got is a borrowed one or second hand information or without knowing the facts. Fyi, JoeGoaUk (since 2004) only promotes the new arrival of VCDs with scanned copy of the VCDs Front Cover and with the names of the director/producer, other artistes, price tag and the month/year in which it was released. JoeGoaUk does not sell VCDs Here is a latest VCD/ Example Quote (1) VCD/DVD No.310 EK JIVO BORVANSO by A.B. Luis With Cersor board Certificate With Anil Pednekar, Selvy, Sandra, Anthony San, Master Aron, Spirit, Antonette de Maina etc etc VCD/DVD Rs.200 April/2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4517756056/ unquote His collection even featured in Herald recently Check it out here http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4434031148/sizes/l/ Talking about copyright violations, RN or his GO pretends as if they have nothing to hide. They too steal other people’s work of which I was also a victim at least once (see quote 2) Some may steal it with clear conscious others may do it with dirty mind Having said all this, nowhere I am denying the fact that I myself is a thief My next one would be on ‘Tiatr, Tiatrists, TAG & JoeGoaUk. This is what I sent to all (including RN) on 3rd May. Quote (2) Looks like there are some misunderstanding particularly in respect to posting of VCD Covers which is a free promotion of new VCD arrivals at my cost. Over 325 VCDs I have and about half of them still remained sealed or un-opened. And here i am, like a fool, kept on buying the new arrivals as and when they came out for sale only to promote them on net. I really thought I was helping our Konkani I really thought I was helping our artistes I really thought I was helping in promoting our Goa and its culture & tradition If tiatirsts or VCD producers have a problem, they should have at least written to me once. Most of them have their email IDs though. Looks like they want to make a 'news' first. never mind. My conscious is clean but a lesson learnt === So, we all are thieves including Rajan Narayan's GO. GO once used my 4in1 casino boat pics, w/o my permission (Jan.2009) as if there were no copyright violations this pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2503334740/ I wrote to them (GO) and their reply was Quote: Dear Mr Joe, We're extremely sorry for not crediting your photograph in the newspaper. We will do so in the forthcoming issue and we would be happy to send you a cheque for the photo we published if you could send us a mailing address. I apologise again for the error. Regards, Jonquil Sudhir de Souza unquote: I have a name 'Joe' so says GO in above reply == Unquote: They say they would give the credit in the forthcoming issue but they didn’t . So, what we learnt from this lesson? ‘Padrinche xermao vhoniek nhuim’ What is good for the goose is good for the gander. May he who has no sin, cast the first stone After all this agro, you may now wish to know If I would continue buying/reading GO? - Why not? Infact, I never miss it despite of the fact it recently gone up from Rs.5 to Rs.8. I always buy my copy even though it sometimes/always available online for free. That’s my way of supporting Goan causes. Further more, of the Rs.8, I spent, the first Rs.3 I recover from the front page, next 2 from the cover story, then next 2 from stray thoughts and the remaining 1 from the rest. “We are for Goa. So we all say Some may show/prove it with louder noise Some may do it with moderate noise Yet some may do it silently or anonymously” Whatever they do in whatever ways they can.. Let them do it! joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: A Letter To The Bleddy Goans From An East Indian Bugger (Godfrey Pereira)
And you, my dear Ann, are going to sit on the rocking chair in your balcao with a hot cup-a-tea in your hand, watching-waiting and praying that the ball does not cross the your compound wall and hits your balcao. Is it?? Hope you too will welcome the ball. If so let us know how. Cheers floriano from PPS to PPS 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org -- Original Message - From: "Ann de Souza" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: A Letter To The Bleddy Goans From An East Indian Bugger (Godfrey Pereira) We all seem to be squabbling like brats in reaction to the 'bloody letter'...let's take the letter and wash it of all its blood and yes, after the blood and flesh are removed, we have the skeleton and yep, the structure is there, it's there for all to see, it's happening, no matter how we might tend to look the other side...we can't take offence at the structure, though of course, the dressing was offensive…we have to do something about it...we have to come together, join forces and work towards a better Goa...that would be the appropriate slap in the face of the East Indian who had the effrontery to poke fun of the ‘sushegad’ nature and customs of our people…bring about the desired change, instead of childishly pointing a finger to his background…c’mon, grow up! That’s the way the ‘previous’ Goans would react, we are the ‘new’ Goans…a mature lot…let’s come together and douse the flames on our own land…let’s fight evil, but in the process, when we band together, we have to remain cautious that we never don on an eviler robe than our ghastly politicians…we should not be like the pigs in ‘Animal Farm’, who turned ‘man’ out for his evil ways, only to get eviler….let’s appreciate the East Indian for his letter, for his biting truth, for his daring and most of all for getting us out of our comfort zones...let’s appreciate Cecil for being a loyal Goan and jumping on behalf of us all at being pinched in the butt…but most importantly, who’s going to bell the cat? Any takers! Work out a strategy that will work and not fizzle out once the pain in the butt has lost its sting, then it’s victory forever to the East Indian….so see ya out there in action guys…save Goa, the ladies and the children…the ball is now in your court…good luck!!!
[Goanet] Public Library Services in India: Systems and Deficiencies (Goa comments... Dr. R. Bhattacharjee, Director, RRRLF 2002)
It is observed that out of 29 States and 6 Union Territory Administrations, only 11 states, as tabulated below, have so far passed library legislation, enabling the concerned State Government to provide a public library system: 1. Tamilnadu Public Libraries Act, 1948 having provision for library cess (10%) on property tax; 2. Andhra Pradesh Public Libraries Act, 1960 having provision for library cess (8%) on lands and buildings; 3. Karnataka Public Libraries Act, 1965 having provision for library cess (6%) on lands, buildings, vehicles and profession; 4. Maharashtra Public Libraries Act, 1967 - No library cess - State Government meets the expenditure; 5. West Bengal Public Libraries Act, 1979 - No library cess - State Government meets the expenditure; 6. Manipur Public Libraries Act, 1988 - No library cess; 7. Kerala Public Libraries Act, 1989 having provision for library cess (5%) on property tax and not less than 1% of State expenditure on education; 8. Haryana Public Libraries Act, 1989 - Local bodies to levy cess; 9. Goa Public Libraries Act, 1993 - Surcharge on IFML @ 0.50 ps. Per ltr. And 0.50 ps. On bulk bear per ltr. And 1% on State Education Budget; 10. Mizoram Public Libraries Act, 1983 - No library cess - State Govt. meets the expenditure; 11. Gujarat Public Libraries Act, 2002 - No library cess; 12. Orissa Public Libraries Act, 2002 - No library cess. Thus, it appears that the public library system prevailing in the four southern states and in the State of Goa in the West and Haryana in the north part of the country, follows one pattern, rather, one system i.e. library cess to meet the expenditure. http://archive.ifla.org/VII/s8/annual/cr02-in.htm
[Goanet] A talk on Islam (religion and politics)
Sorry folks about the last email, the video was removed. Here's a separate link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZppLvjvaE Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão From: drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org Subject: A talk on Islam Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:27:49 +0530 Below is a video clip of a speech given by Lt.Col. (retd) Allen West who served as a commander in Iraq, and talking about Islam. Listen to this man, and scroll barely down under his speaking platform, where you will not find his words printed on the screen as he speaks. This man put Barack Hussein Obama, some of our leaders, politicians and the media to shame in his speech and never called any by name. You will probably listen to it more than once. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReJgvOBXa8 The history is okay, but motives debatable; just like the inquisition history. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão Invest your money wisely post Budget Sign up now. _ Climate, controversies and the changing signatures of nature http://green.in.msn.com/
Re: [Goanet] Milind Raikar on tour in the USA
Wish you a successfull tour. Gable D'souza On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:49:04 +0530 wrote >thank you Yours Musically, Milind Raikar Mob: 9892582671 --- On Mon, 3/5/10, Goanet A-C-E! wrote: From: Goanet A-C-E! Subject: Milind Raikar on tour in the USA To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 9:14 AM Accomplished Violinist, Milind Raikar will be on tour of the United States from May 8 - 13, 2010. Planned stops include Boston, Providence, RI, Baltimore / Washington DC, Raleigh and Los Angeles. Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
[Goanet] Eroding Goan Coastline
In response to: Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:44:35 +0530 From: Pandu Lampiao Subject: Re: [Goanet] Eroding Goan Coastline Hi Pandu, Appreciate your interest in my post. I do know that the rise in water levels is not the Goa government's fault, it's the fault of, the collective world leaders and their respective governments, as the rise in water is the direct consequence of the melting glaciers at the poles which on the other hand have been caused my toxic emissions which are responsible for the rise in temperatures. That's the reason I said "Man is only looking for answers without trying to stop contributing to the destructive cause." As you have said the erosion of our coastline is indeed a worrying aspect, I have spent my childhood in my village and now I know how far and how high the sea waters have reached in my village. If you see the erosion of land in and around Khola in Canacona you'll be surprised at the devastation that has been caused, the Panchayats and the MLAs are not at all interested in taking up the cause, they are too busy with their own agendas and have ample time to play musical chairs for the seat of power. In my village, the place our fisher folks pull up their boats has been a major cause of concern, as erosion has been eating out the land on which they pulled up their boats, so much so, that even during the normal season their boats are at risk, last year itself there were four boats that were badly damaged or destroyed during one of the spring tides. We also have a spring very close to the sea, the excess to which could be cut off in just a years or two, due to erosion. Kanaguinim and the coast up to Agonda too have the same problem. The property owners around the shores are fighting a loosing battle with the sea, building laterite walls, but unfortunately most of them crumble or get badly damaged during the rainy season and our government offers no help either. Unless our Government comes up with a good action plan and that too ASAP our coastline will be in tatters. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
Re: [Goanet] Borges babak purave
Ixttamno,
Hanvem odmas kel'lo tech pormannem, Tomazinho baban apli 'forgery' ("Press Note
signed by Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa") mhaka dhaddun dili; ti hanga polleyat:
http://tinyurl.com/2vumz6j
Tech borobor anik tin "purave" dhaddleat. Ek 'forgery' toyar korpeak anik tin
korunk bixat zai? Punn 'forgery' mat bhov bori zalea. Excellent work! Kam'
itlea kurtidponnan kelam ki samki khorelich dista. Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cho
ho dukument khoim. Tacher Dalgado Konknni Akademi-chem nanv ani pot'to
asa. Sokol soy kelea thoim 'rubber stamp'-ui marlam. Dukumentachi tarikh mat
khoinch disona. Punn poilich voll oxi asa: "A special meeting of the members of
the Akademi was held on 9th October 1988.." Konn-ui to dukument khorelo
mhunn mandunk fattim-fuddem zauncho na. Hanvui toxench mandtolom aslom. Punn
DKAcho Logo add ailo. Tacher "Sthap: 1989" oxem spoxtt asa. Atam tumich chintun
polleyat. 1989 vorsa sthaploli sonstha 1988chea Otubrant aplea membranchi
'special meeting' gheunkuch xokona, oxem nhoi? ['Xokta' oxem tumkam dislem
zalear, koxem tem mhaka kolloilear upkar zait.] Mhonnje to dukument ani DKAcho
Logo hanche modem 'conflict' asa.
Donui ekach borobor khore asunk xokonant; ek khoro aslear dusro khotto
asunkuch zai. Tech khatir to dukument ek 'forgery' thorta. Na zalear, DKAcho
Logo fottkiro mhonnchem poddtta. Punn ho Logo khub temp amchea fuddeant
asa. Hanvem V.Ixttak dhaddlolo to dhovear-kallo (black-n-white) nomuno 2004
vorsa uzvaddailolea PORMOLL hea yadostikantlo. Internet-ar dhaddla to rogit
nomuno halinch zal'lea uzvaddavnni suvalleachea amontronn karddantlo. {Donui
hanga click korun polleyat:
http://tinyurl.com/2vxaraw
Mhonnje fattlea 5-6 vorsanchea kallant ho Logo xembhor-don'xim pavtti tori
chhapla ani hozaramni vachpeamni sabar pavtti to pollela astolo. To fottkiro
mandunk kustar lagta. To khotto mhunn provar korunk Tomazinho baban atam
khoddegantt purave diunche poddttole. Te nodren, Tomazinho baban fuddlea
prosnank promannikponnim soroll zapo diuncheo:
1. Sarkich konn tarkher DKA sonstha sthapon zali? Tiche poilean poile Odheokx
ani Sekretar konn aslole?
2. Fr. Freddy DKAcho Odheokx aslolo zalear, kedna savn kedna poriant? Tedna,
tache borobor, Sekretar konn aslolo / aslole?
3. DKAcho Logo kedna ani konnem toyar kel'lo?
4. Logo-nt chuk asa mhunn tumche nodrek kedna tori ailolem? Hoi zalear
kedna? Ani te vixim tumi kosli karvay keli?
5. Logo-ntli ti chuk (asli zalear) nivllavpache yotn kedna tori keleat? Hoi
zalear, kedna ani kosle? Ani sudharit Logo amkam kedna polleunk mellttolo?
Hea prosnanchi zap mellttokoch amcheamni dusrea prosnank hat ghalunk zatolem.
Tomazinho bab sohokar ditolo mhunn patiyeun ravtam.
Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges
On 1 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo wrote:
*Borges bab-ak Zabab*
*?Romi Konknni? ? Soglleo Fotti! Ekuch Sot!!*
Amcho Borges bab portun fotti marunk laglo. Adim hanvem tacheo 5 fotti
vachpeache nodrek haddloleo. Atam tannem anik fotti martat teo polloum-ia.
(1) *Sovi Fott: *Borges bab mhunntta, ?*Hanvem taka prosn kel'lo, Romi
Konknni Sommelonant je tharav ghetat te sogle Romi lipint Konknni vachpi
porjeche mhunn mandun ghevpache kai mhunn. Tor to mhonntta toxem mandun
ghevpachem na.? *Are Borges bab oxem hanvem mhunnokuch na. Khoim ani ken?na
havem toxem mhunttlam tem sang polloitam? Kiteak re baba fottincher fotti
marunk laglai?
(2) Pustok prodorxonn aslem tem soglleank dislem punn Borges babak dislem
na. Bongom tachem! Taka goddie dixttichem ?problem? asa zait. Monachi dixtt
nivoll zalea xivai babddea Borges-ak khorem kitem tem dischench na. Punn
hea vixoya vixim mhoje lagim chorcha kortana to Tony Martins ani tacho proxn
derrepent kiteak haddlo re baba? Dusre dusre proxn misoll korun khorea
prosnnacher visor ghalpachem karya amche ?maharajkarnni? bhes borem korta
mhunn ami zannanv.
(3) *Satvi Fott:* ?Romi Konknni? he shobd sogllea poile hanvem suru
keleat mhunn mhojer arop ghatlo. Mhaka zababdar korchekhatir hi jivi fott
tum uloilo. Hanvem tuka purave dile ki kitlim vorsam fattim tancho vapor
Padr. Nicolao Pereira, Prabhakar Tendulkar ani Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa hannem
kela mhunn. Atam te soglle purave zata zalear hea madeama vorvim daddun
ditam. Te vach ani uprant uprant kitem sangpachem asa tem sang. ?Forgery?
kelea mhunn tumvem anik ek arop kelo anik ek fott marli. Hi tuji fatllea att
disam bhitor satvi fott. Dusreancher arop ghalpachem kam? ?mharajkarnni?
fuddaream laginch sompeponnim zata mhunn hanga provar zata.
(4) *Attvi Fott:* Borges bab mhojinch utram boroita, ?'Toch lekh asa
zalear to dusare bhoxen koso yetolo tor? Tosoch yetolo nhoi? Hanvem zo lekh
Times of India haka daddlolo tachi proti zai zalear mhojean konnakui diunk
zata.' Ani tea fuddem mhunntta, *?Mhonnche Internettar zo mathallo aila to
tannench dhaddlolo oxem zalem na?*? Are Borges bab kiteak re orthacho
onorth kortai ani ghuspaghondoll rochunk sodhtai? Punn ek mat khorem.
Guspaghonddoll korunuc
