Re: [Goanet] Just how bad is aspartame? | Grist

2011-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
The web article provided below, like many other articles from the same source, 
contains bogus information. Please do not be misled by it.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 http://www.grist.org/scary-food/2011-02-14-just-how-bad-is-aspartame-the-leading-u.s.-fake-sweetener
 


[Goanet] Evolution of Education (Indian special)

2011-06-12 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão





The evolution of Education;

This is what Goa Government wants to follow:

 

In the olden days they used to teach times table,
handwriting, reading, writing …

There were classes of Physical Education, Morals, Practicals
in plantations, practicals in Industrials and hoisting of the National flag
before starting of classes….

Read here a recount by a Maths Professor:

 

Last week, I bought a product that cost me $15.80. I gave
the cashier $20.00 and gave her 80 cents to avoid her giving me more change.
The cashier took the money and kept staring at the cash register, apparently
not knowing what to do.

I tried to explain to her that she needed to return to me
$5:00, but she was not convinced and called the manager for help.

She was with tears in her eyes when the manager tried to
explain and she apparently continued unable to comprehend.

Why am I recounting this?

Because I am testifying the evolution in maths teaching
since 1950, which is thus:

 

 

1. Teaching of mathematics in 1950:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.

The cost price is equal to 4/5 the price of sale.

How much is the profit?

 

2. Teaching of mathematics in 1970:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is equal to 4/5 the price of sale or $80.00.
How much is the profit?

 

3. Teaching of mathematics in 1980:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is $80.00. How much is the profit?

 

4. Teaching of mathematics in 1990:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is $80.00.

Tick the correct answer that shows profit:

(  )$20.00
(  )$40.00 (  )$60.00 (  )$80.00 ( 
)$100.00

 

5. Teaching of mathematics in 2000:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is $80.00.

The profit is $20.00.

Is it correct?

(  )YES   (  )NO

 

6. Teaching of mathematics in 2009:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is $80.00.

If you know to read put a ‘x’ on $20.00.

(  )$20.00
(  )$40.00 (  )$60.00 (  )$80.00 ( 
)$100.00

 

7. In 2012 it is going to be like this:

A firewood vendor sells a truckload of firewood for $100.00.


The cost price is $80.00.

If you know to read put a ‘x’ on $20.00.

(If you are a politician or from Schedule caste/Schedule
Tribe, Freedom Fighter, socially challenged or from any other special minority
community, you need not answer.)

(  )$20.00
(  )$40.00 (  )$60.00 (  )$80.00 ( 
)$100.00

 

And if one scoundrel tries to disrupt a class and the
teacher punishes him, the parents get infuriated as the teacher caused
psychological trauma in the child.






  

[Goanet] Daily Grook #969

2011-06-12 Thread Francis Rodrigues


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[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar

2011-06-12 Thread Melvyn Ferrao
Please get your facts right everyone. Manohar Parrikar studied in Marathi
till secondary education and went on to join the country's premier
university.

His children did their primary schooling in Marathi and are doing well in
their fields.



He is supporting local languages for the reason that they help in building
the fundamentals of the child that helps in further education.



He is still Goa's best CM ever considering the administrative efficiency,
dedication and commitment he showed in his short-lived tenure. People brag
about communalism but conveniently ignore the good things he did such as
building infrastructure for St. Xavier's feast or IFFI. This tag of
communalism should not be applied to BJP in Goa.



Please do not ignore that there are fan clubs on Orkut and Facebook for
Parrikar, but not any other past CM and understandably none of the current
CM. The members are educated Goan youth who are not fools but people who see
hope unlike internet warriors who only know to type long criticising emails
in online forums and cannot differentiate between bad and better.



It is time Goans unite and vote in favour of administration for a better
future.



Melvyn Ferrao

Agacaim


Re: [Goanet] Mayem Lake, Swans, ducks etc - Pics Video

2011-06-12 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Dear Joe,
Swans have very long necks and elegant bodies. These are ducks!
Thanks for the pics anyway. I enjoy looking at all the photographs you share 
with us.
Warm regards,
Victor




From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:40:43 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Mayem Lake, Swans, ducks etc - Pics  Video

Mayem Lake, Swans, ducks etc - Pics  Video
 
Mayem Lake is a popular tourist spot
Well known for Pedal boating etc 
First time I ever visited this spot was during my school picnic
It’s about 3-4 kms from Bicholim Bus Stand

 

Some latest picsSwans, ducks at Mayem Lake

The procession of swans
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822513574/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822515388/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5821954321/sizes/l/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822519826/sizes/l/

middle of the lake
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5821952799/sizes/l/

 

Lake view from GTDC resort side
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822511950/sizes/l/
 
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbn9Bx3oAvU
HD
http://youtu.be/Zbn9Bx3oAvU?hd=1

Mayem lake is one of the popular tourist spots.
In Bicholim Goa
The lake view (s) from diff. Angles
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822047367/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822610286/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822050459/sizes/l/

GTDC Resort – Mayem Lake View
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822616898/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822618546/sizes/l/

Rooms tariff
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822654076/
 

Mini children park
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk40/5822049307/sizes/l/
 
 
My prev. Clip (2006)
http://youtu.be/ZQ4Co9AJe0c
Latest improved version coming later




Prev. Pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/236243718/sizes/z/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/236244352/sizes/z/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/236830357/sizes/l/
 

Some ready pics available here 
http://joegoauk.blogspot.com/2011/06/welcome-to-mayem-lake.html

joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc



[Goanet] Gen JRF Jacob's new book... ( An Odyssey in War and Peace: An Autobiography)

2011-06-12 Thread Frederick Noronha
http://www.dailypioneer.com/345168/Arms-and-the-man.html


AGENDA | Sunday, June 12, 2011 | Email | Print |  | Back


Arms and the man
June 12, 2011   9:17:26 AM


An Odyssey in War and Peace: An Autobiography
Author: Lt Gen JFR Jacob
Publisher: Roli
Price: Rs 350

Brutally frank in his opinion, Gen JFR Jacob spares no one — neither
his colleagues, nor his superiors in the Army — in this remarkable
book, writes Ved Marwah

There are not many people like Gen JFR Jacob in today’s world. He is
an extraordinary person. Not many would think of writing a book at the
age of 88. Brutally frank in his opinion, he has spared no one —
neither his colleagues, nor his superiors — in this book.

The author is, more than anything else, a good human being. His
holding of many top positions in the Army, besides being the Governor
of Goa and Punjab, has not made him arrogant and opinionated, though
his latest book may give a few readers that impression. I have known
him for many years since his days as Army commander. He is a warm
person and I have no doubt that his controversial opinions about
important persons are given without any malice. Also, these opinions
cannot be ignored as they have been made about persons who have played
vital roles in events like the 1962 India-China war and the 1971
Bangladesh liberation war.

There are not many Army officers in India today who have served in so
many war theatres. Gen Jacob was personally involved in some of the
major pre- and post-Independence military operations and his criticism
or praise is based on his long experience in various parts of the
world during World War II and later in the Northeast, Jammu  Kashmir
and in West Bengal against the Naxals. But the most fascinating part
of the book is his account of the 1971 India-Pakistan war in which he
played a key role as one of the top Army generals.

Gen Jacob has made a few uncomplimentary remarks about his then
seniors, the Eastern Army Commander, Lt Gen Jagjit Singh Arora, and
the Chief of the Army Staff, Gen Sam Manekshaw. He has also some harsh
things to say about Lt Gen BM Kaul, who was the favourite of then
Defence Minister VK Krishna Menon. His conduct of the 1962 operation
against the Chinese in the Northeast which cost India so much
humiliation is too well-known to reiterate, but the fact that he was a
scheming Army officer who knew how to ingratiate himself with
political masters makes an interesting read. Our political rulers
should learn a thing or two from this bitter experience. Personal and
party loyalty should not be allowed to supercede national interest.
Inexperienced and incompetent civil and military officers can play
havoc with the system with disastrous consequences.

Unfortunately, our political masters continue to fall for flattery,
false sense of loyalty and manipulations of unscrupulous men and women
to appoint them to key posts. Maybe during the 26/11 assault in
Mumbai, the tragic human loss could have been mitigated and India’s
humiliation on TV screens all over the world avoided had more
experienced and competent officers been in command of Mumbai Police in
2008! We are sadly familiar with the goings-on in the civil
administration, but that such things are happening even in the Army
come as a shock. “Fixing officers” because of personal reasons doesn’t
appear to be an uncommon practice, as revealed in the book.

Gen Jacob decided to enter politics after his unhappy experience in
the commercial world. He joined the BJP and was appointed the Governor
of Goa after the party came to power at the Centre. But here again he
did not take leave of his principles and integrity to oblige his
political benefactors, and was promptly told to “get lost”. His brief
description of various political characters with whom he interacted
makes a good read. It shows his ability to judge people. But taking
this knack to suggest what appears as simplistic solutions to complex
problems like Left-wing extremism is going too far. The Army might
have made decisive contribution, as claimed by him, in controlling the
outbreak of Naxalism in West Bengal in the late 1960s, but today it is
a much more difficult and complicated problem. In fact, the induction
of Army into Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand where I have served and toured
extensively could complicate and aggravate things further. Induction
of the Army into these areas must be considered only as a last resort.

The solution lies in strengthening the police and the intelligence
agencies working in these areas, and training and equipping them to
fight these extremists. But more importantly, there is need to develop
an integrated strategy, taking into consideration all aspects of the
problem — economic, social and political. Delivery of socio-economic
justice to the poor, and not the use of brute force, is the key to
tackling this growing menace.

The author has vast military experience that stood him in good stead
in planning sound strategies to win battles, but when he 

[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Ranantlim Zonvaram Ganvant Koxim Pavlim?

2011-06-12 Thread lino dourado
Ranantlim Zonvaram Ganvant Koxim Pavlim?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/34793
 
Poircha Budhvarak, disaleancher chappun ail’li bhatmi vachli. Don bhirakull 
ranvoti hoti, Mysore-cha xarantlea Bamboo Bazarant bhitor sorun, thoincha 
vattharant ravpi ponchavon (55) vorsancha mon’xak pamyam thalla mandd’ddoun 
akttak jivo marlo. Urleli tiddkechi thodd-fodd-modd korun bhouch akant ani 
kampero lokacher haddlo. Him zonglantli monzat xarant pavpachem kharan 
mhonllear, atam ganvan ravpi mon’xamni ranantlea monzatichea zagear rig 
ghetlea. 
Dekhun ranvoti monzat tiddkelea.
Halincha vorsamni Gõyant osle kauz zaleat ani zatat. Amcha Gõyantlea zonglantli 
vo ranantli monzat ganvant yevn, lokacher attak korun kuddik dukhavoll ditat. 
Bichole ganvant eka bibttean (leopard) dogam mon’xacher guri ghatleli. Voizacho 
ilaz tankam dinvcho poddlo. Bibtte, gorvancha gottean yevn tras kortat mhunn 
zaite pavtti ami, paperar vachlam. Poiginium, Kanakon taluken, makodd ani 
dusrim 
ranvotti zonvoram xet-mollar bhitor sorun  pikavollicho nas kortat. Eka vorsa 
80 
lakhachem luksan kel’lem asa. Halinchea khallar, makodd; mon’xancherui akromon 
kortat. Verna Electronic City bandun zatoch, thoinsorle makodd Verna-Consua ani 
lagsorlea ganvamni maddancher ani yer dusrea zhaddancher sust boslele dollebor 
distat. Ganvan bhonvtat. Adim zonglantli monzat ganvan pavlear ganvti sunnim 
tankam dhanvdavun galtalim. Punn atam toxem nam. Sunnim ani makodd ixtt-mitram 
zaleant. Tumi-i zonvoram ani ami-i zonvoram. Zogddim nakat xantin jiyeya. 

Zonvarank ravpachea zageavelim zhaddam khatortoch, tankam khanancho unnav 
poddta 
ani ranvoti dhukor pikavolllicha disamni pik khavunk ani borobor pik padd 
kortat 
ti, amkam Fonddem-Keri ganvantlea ghoddnechi yad korta. Tor hi ranvoti monzat 
ganvan kiteak yeta? Gõyant zonvaranche zage, ran-dongor khatrun vhodd prokolp 
ani imaroti ubeo keleat. Ganvantlo moniszat dongor choddta ani ranantli monzat 
ganvan denvun yeta.
Lutt marpi ani Gõy chorun khobar korpi Rajkarnni Gõychi soimbik svato ani 
zhaddamni bhorlele zage, udorgotticha nanvan pokrun padd keleat ani kortat. 
Susegad jiyetelea monzatik pisandur kelea. Adim ganvan disti poddonaslolim 
zonvoram halinchea khallar chodduch disunk laglea. Hem oxench chol’lem zalear, 
mhonnchem; monzatik ravpacha zageavelim zhaddam-rukh khatrit ravlear, falleam 
ranantli monzatichi pontton ganvan aili tor, tedna kitem zatolem tem chintpak, 
konnui tori ek boro fuddari Gõyant asa kai? 

Porvorim ganvant challis mon(is)zaticho ek prannisongralay (zoo) asa. Gõychi 
udorgott ani boreponn korcha khatir veg-veg rupachi ani karnnanchi ek-ek 
mon(is)zat dor ek motdarsongantlea lokan pattoun dilea. Segid panch vorsam hea 
mon(is)zatik Gõychi porza funkot posta. Somzun, irlem tori ginean yevn favo tea 
porim vagtoli kai mhunn. Punn dhukrancha golleant mottiam konnem mhonntleant? 
Kitloy dhuilo zalear dhukor chiklan lollpacho nam mhonn asta? 

Papianno!!! Hea pavtti tori ginean asloli, dusre bhaxen xiklole monis 
Porvoriche 
‘Vidhan Sobhen’ daddpacho yont korumya. Corruption free Goa Vidhan Sobha 2012 
oxem korunk dor ek Gõychea  nagrikacho kaido asa---Na tor, vagache dollin 
fuddlim panch vorsam choddvoddeamni sarumya.
Lino B. Dourado


[Goanet] Jury awards $136.8 million in genetically-modified rice lawsuit

2011-06-12 Thread Con Menezes
Is this the beginning of the end for organic food??
http://www.jerebeasleyreport.com/2011/04/jury-awards-136-8-million-in-genetically-modified-rice-lawsuit/


[Goanet] Song for the day.

2011-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
 Jo 
Staffordhttp://www.youtube.com/artist/Jo_Stafford?feature=watch_video_title
-
Taking a Chance On Love, 1958
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJHdNkEiRgfeature=fvst
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar

2011-06-12 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:07:23
-0700 Melvyn Ferrao wrote:Please get your facts right everyone.
Manohar Parrikar studied in Marathi till secondary education and went on to
join the country's premier university. His children did their primary schooling
in Marathi and are doing well in their fields. He is supporting local languages
for the reason that they help in building the fundamentals of the child that
helps in further education.

He is still Goa's best CM ever
considering the administrative efficiency, dedication and commitment he showed
in his short-lived tenure. People brag about communalism but conveniently
ignore the good things he did such as building infrastructure for St. Xavier's
feast or IFFI. This tag of communalism should not be applied to BJP in Goa.

Please do not ignore that
there are fan clubs on Orkut and Facebook for Parrikar, but not any other past
CM and understandably none of the current CM. The members are educated Goan
youth who are not fools but people who see hope unlike internet warriors who
only know to type long criticising emails in online forums and cannot
differentiate between bad and better. It is time Goans unite and vote in favour
of administration for a better future. Melvyn Ferrao Agacaim

 

COMMENT : In the first place,
I appreciate very much this post as it has been written in Oxford English and
not “American”. But the contents of the post are subjective. I would like to be
clarified on a few points therein from the writer.

1- May I know what is meant by
‘local languages help in building the fundamentals of a child”? Can ‘read,
write, sit, stand, wait, morning, etc.’ be detrimental if taught in
English?  Or is it detrimental when
a child is taught in Marathi/ Hindi to call strangers by “Chacha or Chachi” and
when they grow up call everyone “Uncle  Aunty”? Is that correct English
definition by Oxford?

2- May I know any primary
school that teaches in roman script Knonkani which is the local language of
more than 50% in Salcete, and lesser in other Talukas?

3- What or which are the
fundamentals that help in further education? Do we have further education in
local languages? Do we have books in any field of science in local languages? 

4- People have not ‘bragged’
about communalism (bragging is boasting), they complain that Parrikar is
Communal, and also very vindictive. He had proved his communalistic fascination
by trying to brainwash children’s mind with the circulation of the notorious
untrue CD on Inquisition in all schools; and raids on establishments of well
known personalities from Salcete; one of whom is a Hindu. Well, people have not
tagged BJP in Goa as Communal; but branded it.

5- People on internet and
online forums may not know difference between “bad and better”; but they surely
know the difference between the “worse from the bad”, because Goans on
internet, be they from any community, are aware of what is happening in the
rest of India where communalists are governing.




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.  

  

[Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-12 Thread Eddie Fernandes
By Cyprian Fernandes
Title: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?
Source: Goan Voice UK newsletter, 12 June 2011 at www.goanvoice.org.uk

[For a photograph and brief bio of  the  new Goan Voice UK  columnist, check
the website].

Full text:

Having been born and raised in Kenya, a little before the baby-boomers, I am
often baffled when Goans in Kenya, both pre and post-independence, are
supposed to have suffered a crisis of identity. There was never any doubt: a
Goan is a Goan. That is non-negotiable. Goans know their ethnic identity
which probably comes more easily than their national identity: such as
British, Australian, German, US, Malaysian, Thai, Kiwi, Kenyan, etc. The
passport cannot unGoan a Goan.

This dual identity is part of the Goan DNA and in the case of the East
African Goans it was a gene that was often acutely prejudicial: as in I am a
Goan, not an African, Muslim, Hindu (Indian), Punjabi (Sikh) etc. This
prejudice was also religion based, Goans being next to godliness through
their near fanaticism of Roman Catholicism. Even amongst the Goans there is
a separation by degrees of prejudice.

The Goans will probably go down in history as one of the peoples who fell in
love with their colonisers: Vasco Da Gama and his successors. Having been
taught by the British to think they were a separate because they were a
class above the rest of the non-whites, Goans were in awe of the
imperialists. 

It was never their fault. This gene of prejudice, which is still alive
today, especially in Goa and the rest of India, goes back several hundred
years: rich man, poor man, the caste, the untouchables, fair man, dark man,
holy man, and infidel. In Goa, the added dimension of Bardez vs. Salcette, I
am Portuguese because I have some Portuguese blood in my ancestry or because
I speak Portuguese, took Goan prejudice to new heights.

Goans, like other South Asians, would pack their daughters off to India
rather than suffer the shame and disgrace of inter-marriage with another
South Asian. Marriage to African was unthinkable. Fortunately, the children
of baby-boomers have eradicated that prejudice. The world over Goans marry
blacks without blinking their Goan eyelids. But the DNA still lurks among
the parents, but what can you say, what can you do, you can't tell them
anything.

When considering the question of a Goan identity, this gene of prejudice
looms large. Goans abroad swear that the umbilical cord still ties them to
their mother country. To newer generations, Goa is that little place on the
West Coast of India.

When a Goan asks a white Aussie, where do you come from, he will answer
Australia. When a Goan asks another Goan the same question, he or she will
say, Aldona, Majorda, Benaulim etc. If you want to know the nationality of a
Goan, you have to ask: What country do you live in? Similarly in those early
days before and after independence in Kenya, a Goan was a Goan. He was not
British, Portuguese, Kenyan or anything else. There was no identity crisis.
Briton, Portugal, India, Africa have all disowned the Goan at one time or
another. Kenyan Independence put an end to the privileged position Goans
enjoyed with the British. Bundled as Indians, they had to become Kenya
citizens or leave.

Thus by early 1962, Goans who had Portuguese passports were already heading
for Lisbon. Those that did not, were returning to Goa, leaving some of their
children behind, especially those in good jobs. The big crunch came in 1967:
From midnight November 30, anyone who was not a Kenya citizen, even if he or
she was born in Kenya, would need an entry certificate to stay in Kenya
and a work permit to work. By 1967, fearing the threat of deportation,
1000 Asians a month were arriving in England.

In March, 1968, the Labour Government delivered the final insult (Goans felt
particularly let down) by virtually cancelling the British Passport: holders
were required an entry voucher to enter Britain. So they were told that they
were not British, not Kenyan, Ugandan, Tanzanian (even if they were born in
these African countries) and all they had to fall back on was their
ethnicity. Stripped of everything else, they had four choices of
nationality: British, Indian, Portuguese, Kenya but only one choice of
ethnicity.

Hence I am a Goan. This is the sanctuary that no living soul can take away
from the Goan and it is only in Goa that a Goan can walk a truly free
person. See, there is no crisis of identity: I am a Kenyan, British,
Australian Goan of Indian origin.

PS: My children are Aussies but they know they are of Goan stock.

Comments to Cyprian Fernandes: skip...@live.com.au




Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar

2011-06-12 Thread floriano

I expected some one (other than me)  to challenge this drible about MP.
That you have risen to that occasion is commendable.
Thank you Dr. Ferdy.
You make excellent points

Cheers
floriano
GRA/goasuraj
9422060347
www.goasu-raj.org
PS: I had asked MP over an email to do three things for Mapusa since he was 
the Mapusa boy.

1. To straightenout the public toilet call Kadumba bus-stand.
2. To stop sewage of Mapusa getting into the Mapusa river, poisoning it.
3. To straighten out the Mapusa (WORLD FAMOUS) market which is the pride of 
Goa.


He was very promt in replying to that email.
He said quote Floriano, you will see a big change in Mapusa before Christmas 
unquote.

I was happy. At least my email got answered.
I waited well after that Christmas. Nothing ever happened.
So I sent him another email.
Quote Manohar, pls tell me which Christmas did you mean? Unquote.
As Goa's CM Manohar Parrikar has done SWEET NOTHING FOR MAPUSA, his home 
town.

They say, CHARITY STARTS AT HOME.
I don't think this WISDOM is written in his book RSS BOOKET.



- Original Message - 
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com

To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar



On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:07:23
-0700 Melvyn Ferrao wrote:Please get your facts right everyone.
Manohar Parrikar studied in Marathi till secondary education COMMENT : In 
the first place,
I appreciate very much this post as it has been written in Oxford English 
and
not “American”. But the contents of the post are subjective. I would like to 
be

clarified on a few points therein from the writer.




1- May I know what is meant by
‘local languages help in building the fundamentals of a child”? Can ‘read,
write, sit, stand, wait, morning, etc.’ be detrimental if taught in
English?  Or is it detrimental when
a child is taught in Marathi/ Hindi to call strangers by “Chacha or Chachi” 
and

when they grow up call everyone “Uncle  Aunty”? Is that correct English
definition by Oxford?

2- May I know any primary
school that teaches in roman script Knonkani which is the local language of
more than 50% in Salcete, and lesser in other Talukas?

3- What or which are the
fundamentals that help in further education? Do we have further education in
local languages? Do we have books in any field of science in local 
languages?


4- People have not ‘bragged’
about communalism (bragging is boasting), they complain that Parrikar is
Communal, and also very vindictive. He had proved his communalistic 
fascination

by trying to brainwash children’s mind with the circulation of the notorious
untrue CD on Inquisition in all schools; and raids on establishments of well
known personalities from Salcete; one of whom is a Hindu. Well, people have 
not

tagged BJP in Goa as Communal; but branded it.

5- People on internet and
online forums may not know difference between “bad and better”; but they 
surely

know the difference between the “worse from the bad”, because Goans on
internet, be they from any community, are aware of what is happening in the
rest of India where communalists are governing.




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  = 



[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] This morning

2011-06-12 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'This morning'

The atmospherics were different this morning at sunrise (which was at 1:54 am). 
The same Kaldbakur mountain at Bjarnardalur in Önundarfjörður seen here
yesterday, now draped in the warm light of the early sun.







You may view the latest post at
http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2011/06/12/this-morning/

Best regards,
Rajan P. Parrikar
parri...@yahoo.com



[Goanet] Healing The Gut With The Five R's

2011-06-12 Thread Con Menezes

http://www.healthiertalk.com/healing-gut-five-rs-4094


Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-12 Thread floriano

I am a Kenyan, British,
Australian Goan of Indian origin.


Dear Eddie,
Kindly do correct a slight error by adding the word 'subcontinental' after 
Indian and Origin lest people misunderstand you.

:-)
Cheers
floriano
GRA/goasuraj
9422060347
www.goasu-raj.org
PS: Excellent write-up


- Original Message - 
From: Eddie Fernandes eddie.fernan...@gmail.com

To: 'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!' goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?



By Cyprian Fernandes
Title: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?
Source: Goan Voice UK newsletter, 12 June 2011 at www.goanvoice.org.uk

[For a photograph and brief bio of  the  new Goan Voice UK  columnist, 
check

the website].

Full text:

Having been born and raised in Kenya, a little before the baby-boomers, I 
am

often baffled when Goans in Kenya, both pre and post-independence, are
supposed to have suffered a crisis of identity. There was never any doubt: 
a

Goan is a Goan. That is non-negotiable. Goans know their ethnic identity
which probably comes more easily than their national identity: such as
British, Australian, German, US, Malaysian, Thai, Kiwi, Kenyan, etc. The
passport cannot unGoan a Goan.





Hence I am a Goan. This is the sanctuary that no living soul can take away
from the Goan and it is only in Goa that a Goan can walk a truly free
person. See, there is no crisis of identity: I am a Kenyan, British,
Australian Goan of Indian origin.

PS: My children are Aussies but they know they are of Goan stock.

Comments to Cyprian Fernandes: skip...@live.com.au






[Goanet] Goan is an identity

2011-06-12 Thread Aloysius D'Souza
Thanks Eddie,

All said and done, we are Goans irrespective of where we live -- Goa, India,
U K, Canada, USA, Australia, or any other country.

Ekvat -- the group of singers, dancers and musicians from Portugal -- who
gave us a concert of Goan music and dance at NCPA, Bombay and earlier at
Goa, Bangalore and Delhi -- have proved that you can shift a Goan to any
country but he will remain a GOAN.

VIVA

Aloysius


[Goanet] (goanet) Manohar Parrikar

2011-06-12 Thread anil desai
Congratulations to Mr Ferrao on the post below. After reading some of the
most vitriolic, jingoistic and communal posts on the subject of MOI, I am
glad that some one has had the sense to state some simple facts in plain
English.

The other simple facts are:

No one including Goa government ever stopped parents from sending their
children to primary schools where MOI was English. So far, parents would
have had to pay for this privilege since it was decided by successive
governments including congress governments that MOI should be either Konkani
or Marathi which were accepted as regional languages.

All children studying in Goa had access to secondary schools where MOI was
English. This was not a privilege reserved for the children of Manohar
Parrikar, Shashikala Kakodkar or Uday Bhembre as it was repeatedly written
by protagonists of English as MOI for primary schools. All these schools are
and have always been fully funded by the dept of education, govt of Goa.

I wish more people like Mr Ferrao took the trouble of writing regularly on
this forum.

Anil Desai




From: Melvyn Ferrao melvyn.fer...@gmail.com
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
   goanet@lists.goanet.org,  Goanet goa...@goanet.org,
   goenchimxapo...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar
Message-ID: BANLkTi=c8aJms-3JQixpCc2QR2H=neu...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Please get your facts right everyone. Manohar Parrikar studied in Marathi
till secondary education and went on to join the country's premier
university.

His children did their primary schooling in Marathi and are doing well in
their fields.



He is supporting local languages for the reason that they help in building
the fundamentals of the child that helps in further education.



He is still Goa's best CM ever considering the administrative efficiency,
dedication and commitment he showed in his short-lived tenure. People brag
about communalism but conveniently ignore the good things he did such as
building infrastructure for St. Xavier's feast or IFFI. This tag of
communalism should not be applied to BJP in Goa.



Please do not ignore that there are fan clubs on Orkut and Facebook for
Parrikar, but not any other past CM and understandably none of the current
CM. The members are educated Goan youth who are not fools but people who see
hope unlike internet warriors who only know to type long criticising emails
in online forums and cannot differentiate between bad and better.



It is time Goans unite and vote in favour of administration for a better
future.



Melvyn Ferrao

Agacaim


Re: [Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT'S FOUR YEARS AS GOA CM A DISASTER

2011-06-12 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Dear Barad,
 
Do you mean that the 'right Govt. decision' on MOI has brought Konkni and 
Marathi wadis 
together into GOONDAISM??
 
Then you are possibly right. Because that is what the Saffron, BJP, MGP and 
other like groups have done; they targeted Transport and Roads blocking; so as 
to prevent people from going about their lives.
 
What Barad, you support this goondagiri and lawlessness and holding people 
hostage. This is the gutter level' of politics that YOU UPHOLD?? You must be 
blinded by saffron turned RED!
 
You should ask all these leaders and organisers of the Bundh to resign and 
never to seek political position again. Then you would be right. Ask your 
supporting Aires to sue them and get them a free lunch in Jail at the cost of 
Maharasthra, not of Goa.
 
All real Goans want highly Developed Language English as MOI and local/regional 
language KONKNI as a language subject from class one to class TEN, for 
proficiency in both languages!!. We do not want Govt. to subsidise learning of 
Marathi in Goa, EVER.
 
All Marathi wadis should be deported to neighbouring Maharastra regions; as 
Maharasthra is so BIG and amchem Goem is so Small.
We have no place for these underdeveloped un-enlightened trouble makers, who 
want to govern only for their kind from Goa and not for the real Goans.
 
Please try and absorb fully, in extent and meaning what I have tried to convey 
here. We Goans Do Not Want Non-Goan Infiltrators to be permanently in Goa. All 
the Saffronites please Go out of Goa and keep Goa modern in thought and living 
ways!
 
Nascy Caldeira.
 
From: U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT'S FOUR YEARS AS GOA CM A DISASTER


Yes Nascy, it's disaster for Digu as well as for congresses. 

Why don't you think that his decision on language issue has brought Konkani
vadi and Marathi vadi together which no CM of Goa could ever do! 

And for very sure he will be back to BJP - survival of fittest - he has
studied only this theory  how to drill GOA with mining - remember he is the
only person with 14 years of experience as Minister of Mines!!! 



Best regards,

U. G. Barad


[Goanet] The Feast of Pentecost

2011-06-12 Thread icsouza
THE FEAST OF PENTECOST
*Fr.Dr.Ivo da C.Souza

  After the feast of Easter, we are celebrating the feast of the 
Pentecost. It is the commemoration of the pouring down of the Spirit of the 
Risen Lord. Pentecost  is the turning-point in  the  salvation history. Luke 
describes the  mission  of  the church  and its inauguration (Lk 2:1-41). It is 
the era of the Spirit. Pentecost  inaugurates the era of the Church with the 
outpouring of the Holy Spirit. 
 Originally, Pentecost was an agrarian feast of harvest (Nb 28:16; Ex  
23:28).  It  was called the feast of  the  first-fruits  (HAG HASHABBUOTH) and 
was celebrated on the fiftieth day, seven  weeks after  the Passover. It was 
one of the three  pilgrimage  feasts, but  already in the Old Testament it 
became the feast of the  Law-giving  (or renewal) of the Covenant. Even at 
Qumran, it was the feast of the law and covenant of Essenes. It was called the 
feast of the oaths (HAG  HASHEBBUOTH). The  feast of the first-fruits became 
feast of oaths. Also, in orthodox Judaism, it became the feast of Law-giving 
or Covenant. 
The main elements are sound  (v.2) and tongues of fire. The onlookers 
began to “speak in tongues” (v.4). Is  it xenolalia  (gift of foreign tongues) 
or glossolalia (they  began to speak in other tongues, v.4)? It is speaking 
in tongues, it is not to communicate, but to praise God (cf.v.11). Love united 
the onlookers, as it will unite humankind throughout human history and shape 
world history.  
The  feast of  Pentecost  commemorated  the Sinaitic Covenant, fifty 
days after leaving Egypt. An interesting rabbinical text from Exodus Rabbah 
shows how the Jews understood it: 
   It  is said: 'God thunders wondrously with His  voice'  (Jb 37:5).  
What  does 'God thundered' mean? When God gave  Torah  on Mt.Sinai,  he  did 
for Israel great things with his  voice.  What happened? God spoke and his 
Voice resounded throughout the world, Israel  heard the Voice coming to them 
from the South:  they  ran South  to meet…”
 According to a rabbinic  tradition  at the  promulgation of the Law, the 
Voice of God was heard  by  all nations, as we have already seen. It was 
divided into 70 languages, corresponding to the 70 peoples of the world. This  
tradition is  recalled by the miracle of the gift of tongues.  Fire-like 
tongues rested on each of the disciples. This may be related to a Jewish  
legend,  based on Ex 20:18: All the people  'saw'  (perceived) the Voice, 
which came as a flame and was articulated into ordinary  speech. The  
association  fire/word (or law) is found  also  in  a Jewish  legend, 
according to which fire appeared on the  head  of famous Rabbis, engaged in the 
study and interpretation of the Law (eg.Rabbi  Johannan  said  that  Voice  of  
God  split  into   70 tongues/voices,  so that the nations might understand. 
God  spoke on Sinai-(Horeb) like a thunder and his Voice resounded  throughout 
the world).
Today we are witnessing a revival of the charismatic movements. They help 
us to imbibe our Christian Faith for which we are grateful. The Church of the 
Holy Spirit brings today to our mind the work done by the missionaries. The 
Church of Margão was founded by the Jesuits in 1564. The church was destroyed 
by fire during the invasion by the Muslims in 1571. The present church building 
is the fifth one and was built in 1675.
The fair is useful for the provision (purument) during the rainy season. We 
need also provision for our values and courage during the difficult times that 
we are facing in India and in Goa: rampant corruption, criminality, thefts, 
murders, rapes, political gimmicks… May we witness to the human and Gospel 
values in the chaotic situation in which we are in Goa and in India!



Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar

2011-06-12 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Melvyn, (and goanetters note)
 
People do not vote for administration; they vote for persons who are candidates 
of political parties or independents.
 
 Manohar is a member of RSS the Gandhi killers. Have U taken the time to read 
the BJP party manifesto: it is pure fascism of the casteist saffron variety! 
Nazis indeed ! They work for 'Hindu only' supremacy in India; All others are 
third class residents, not even considered full Indian citizens, once these 
fascists get full power.
 
We are not worried what this dictatorial fascist leader brute studied and in 
what language. We and the Parents of children have the Right of Choice of 
language and MOI, for their children who are minors!
 
This is guaranteed in the Indian Constitution. No govt. of the day can 
discriminate FUNDING for education on basis of MOI, starting from Primary 
levels. Now the Funding is available, and rightly so!
 
If your saffron fascist, casteist Manohar is 'so educated', how come he chooses 
to 'Discriminate' and sides with the other Communalist woman, Shashikala??
 
He should be going to School all over again, this time thru an advanced 
language school like English. And you too; for putting 'this nonsense' before 
Goans.
 
Let him be a member of goanet, and discuss/debate; let him be answerable to 
'Meet the Press' Q and A programs, so that all his cunning anti people stuff 
can be exposed.
 
Melvyn, the above are the FACTS. 
What  Facts are you talking about; his private facts and private stuff; we are 
not interested. Will you and your Manohar now answer our questions?
Why has there to be a BAD Party and Bad leaders? Why can these people reform 
and do good for all; and then win the hearts of all Indians? Embrace the 
Harijan/ Dalit. Come On Now.
It is their avowed policy of fascism. All other so called 'good stuff, is only 
a means to an end, for the fascists. Is this what you want? 
 
Now will you join the anti saffron casteist BJP and RSS forces, and expose 
their EVIL? or you want to lick their behind and ultimately get trodden with 
their Hitler Boots?
 
Think man Think!
Nascy Caldeira

From: Melvyn Ferrao melvyn.fer...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:36 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar

Please get your facts right everyone. Manohar Parrikar studied in Marathi
till secondary education and went on to join the country's premier
university.

His children did their primary schooling in Marathi and are doing well in
their fields.



He is supporting local languages for the reason that they help in building
the fundamentals of the child that helps in further education.



He is still Goa's best CM ever considering the administrative efficiency,
dedication and commitment he showed in his short-lived tenure. People brag
about communalism but conveniently ignore the good things he did such as
building infrastructure for St. Xavier's feast or IFFI. This tag of
communalism should not be applied to BJP in Goa.



Please do not ignore that there are fan clubs on Orkut and Facebook for
Parrikar, but not any other past CM and understandably none of the current
CM. The members are educated Goan youth who are not fools but people who see
hope unlike internet warriors who only know to type long criticising emails
in online forums and cannot differentiate between bad and better.



It is time Goans unite and vote in favour of administration for a better
future.



Melvyn Ferrao

Agacaim


[Goanet] Congress launches campaign against Hazare, Ramdev

2011-06-12 Thread SOTER
Congress launches campaign against Hazare, Ramdev
PTI

Senior Congress leader and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Sunday hit out 
at Anna Hazare and Ramdev over the civil society's anti-corruption movement, 
accusing them of undermining democratic institutions and did not spare the BJP 
either. 

Mr. Mukherjee while announcing Congress' plans to launch a nationwide 
anti-corruption campaign took on BJP saying it was backing Hazare and Ramdev to 
gain support of people after its debacle in the recent Assembly polls and 
accused the party of providing logistical support to their agitations and 
resorting to unconstitutional practice. 

The Constitution has given the power to legislate only to Parliament and the 
state Assemblies. If 5,000 or 6,000 people dictate from outside what the 
Parliament ought to do, this will weaken democracy, he told a press 
conference. The campaign is seen as a bid by Congress to counter the movement 
by Mr. Hazare and Baba Ramdev. 

In hard hitting remarks targeting BJP, Mr. Mukherjee said, when the parties 
are rejected by the people and if they want to resort to unconstitutional 
practice it is totally unacceptable. They are providing logistic support to all 
those agitations. He however did not name the party. 

In a democratic system, in a democratic society, everybody has a right to 
agitate on certain issues which he feels right or wrongThose who want to 
dismantle the process of Constitution, Congress party will fight against them, 
he said. 

Mr. Mukherjee also ruled out acceding to Mr. Hazare's demand for videography of 
the drafting process of the Lokpal Bill, saying this was not possible in view 
of the fact that the drafting committee members will express their views 
freely. 

Their views, however, would be available on audio recording, he said. 

Referring to Mr. Hazare's August 15 deadline for the passage of the Lokpal 
Bill, Mr. Mukherjee said, we have suggested that the Bill be tabled in 
Parliament during the monsoon session. But who can say when the House will pass 
it? The Parliament is supreme. 

Mr. Mukherjee said the audio-recording of every meeting of the drafting 
committee was available on the website of the Department of Personnel and if 
people are interested, those can be heard from the websites. 

Every word is audio-taped. When required, those may be published together, he 
said. 

The Congress and its allies have formed governments in three states after the 
Assembly polls. So, the BJP supported the fast of Anna Hazare. The CPI(M) Polit 
Bureau took a resolution supporting him. Some political parties also extended 
support, Mr. Mukherjee said. 

Mr. Mukherjee, who released a document in English containing his party's views 
on the issue, said the Congress was launching an awareness campaign all over 
the country. 

The documents will be made available in other languages. Debates, discussions 
and seminars would be organised right from the district to the block levels to 
put forth our views, he said. 

Asked why the government had earlier held talks with Mr. Hazare and Baba 
Ramdev, he said, We gave them a chance, because if you do not talk to them, 
you will be accused of arrogance. Now that you have talked, it is said that you 
are weak. 

To a question whether the situation now was similar to the situation that 
prompted the Centre to impose Emergency in the Seventies, he said, It is not 
exactly the same, but there are some similarities ... But I can assure that 
there will be no repetition of Emergency. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2098822.ece


[Goanet] Goa news for June 13, 2011

2011-06-12 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Greens hop along to catch Goa's frog poachers - Economic
Times
RoLZ7ZgVWNrQ
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGHMDtFOMpqLoe7jLeW_tUmo6wjXwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/environment/the-good-earth/greens-hop-along-to-catch-goas-frog-poachers/articleshow/8802978.cms

*** NIO to implement ballast water reporting system at major
ports - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHM41CWQTBF8nly0Z3l-By9x90yiQurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/nio-to-implement-ballast-water-reporting-system-at-major-ports/723897.html

*** Sporting Clube clear AFC licence criteria - Hindustan Times
eague is assured after the newly promoted club passed the Asian
Football Confederation's strict licensing criteria. A high
profile AFC delegation led by Competition Director Tokuaki
Suzuki and ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGaNU8lzcuWIWwVT6s7pHqfB7OtHgurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Sporting-Clube-clear-AFC-licence-criteria/Article1-708750.aspx

*** ACC to take up all plastic, rubber waste from Goa -
Moneycontrol.com
neycontrol.comPublished on Sat, [Jun 11, 2011]   at 09:43 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEaSdLkADgktHo8aBlp2dBE4qewKQurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/acc-to-takeall-plastic-rubber-wastegoa_556568.html

*** IMD warns of rough weather off Goa coast - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHXP2eRxU21RhM_gstQTQo_Yf0CCgurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/imd-warns-of-rough-weather-off-goa-coast/724055.html

*** 'Assembly tickets only to candidates with clean record' -
Times of India
o-address-issues-raised-by-protestors-over-jaitapur-issue_1554151Govt
to address issues raised by protestors over Jaitapur issue
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEeBO_lXnjHbCVa2YllsdDoahZQuAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Assembly-tickets-only-to-candidates-with-clean-record/articleshow/8819144.cms

*** Goan youth have good future ahead: Armando - Times of India
ndia-can-play-like-barcelona-new-coach-colacoIndia can play
like Barcelona: New coach Colaco
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGJEA_7qVt176ApkfvwsvtgiVpo7Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/top-stories/Goan-youth-have-good-future-ahead-Armando/articleshow/8815046.cms

*** Motorized 'trikes' to collect dry waste in pilot project at
Divar - Times of India
o-door in Divar to collect segregated dry waste. The pilot
project has been ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEC5LEMW8qqHARpoUttZaveCP7CYQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Motorized-trikes-to-collect-dry-waste-in-pilot-project-at-Divar/articleshow/8819011.cms

*** Government silent on fate of French and Portuguese in
schools - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa University's French and Portuguese
departments are set to die a slow and steady death after the
introduction of Konkani/Marathi as compulsory subjects under the
government's new education policy. By making Konkani or Marathi
a compulsory ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGXTa3LM-TisHpk8LH1-z7xb-CYsQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Government-silent-on-fate-of-French-and-Portuguese-in-schools/articleshow/8819040.cms

*** Goa board urges DTE to extend admission dates - Times of
India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Following concerns expressed by students and
parents, the Goa board of secondary and higher secondary
education has requested the directorate of technical education
(DTE) to extend dates for admissions to professional colleges by
a few days to ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFNuKYhSQRJcwQqDvNxtiLcKhkS5Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/Goa-board-urges-DTE-to-extend-admission-dates/articleshow/8819066.cms


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Written Konknni

2011-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
We know that there are people who want to promote only the Devanagri
script for Konknni. We also know that there are people who want to
promote both Devanagri and Roman scripts. There are still others like
me who want Konknni to be written in all five scripts used by its
speakers, namely Devanagri, Roman, Kannada, Malayalam and Arabic. The
question I have, however, is, are there any individuals or groups in
Goa who demand that it only be written in Roman script? If so, who are
these people, and what is their rationale?

On another front, it is well known that Konknni is spoken in many
dialects. While there are attempts made to standardize the usage, the
current trend in its growing literature is to accept all variations of
utterances. Given this fact, could someone tell me if there are people
in Goa who believe that only their own dialect is the correct one, and
the only one that needs to be recognized and promoted. If so, who are
these people, and what is their rationale?

Cheers,

Santosh


Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
 floriano wrote: Kindly do correct a slight error by adding the word
'subcontinental' after Indian and Origin lest people misunderstand
you.

COMMENT:

Thank you Floriano.

I am not sure, however, if Eddie can make that change. The author of
the article must make the change. He may first make that change in his
own mind. That, I submit, is not a very easy thing for Goans.

In any event, before the author even considers making a change, he may
wish to revisit a few points in his own mind:

a: What are Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis?
b: What are Tibetans?
c: What are the people of the Andamans?
d: What doe the author mean by the term 'Indian'?
e: When did the country 'India', legally come into being? What was it before?
f: How about the Aryans and the Greeks et al .who came and settled
in what is now the Republic of India? Are they Greeks, Iranians,
Israelis or Eastern Europeans?

That is why Goans classify themselves as Goans. Then they assign their
new nationality.

For those who are of post 1947 (post 1961 in Goa's case), it is quite
easy to state that they are Goans of Indian origin.

For those who do not fall in the above category, the primary question
is: What do you mean by the term 'Indian'? Please do not tell me that
there is a race called Indian .or (except for the tribes and other
natives) there is anything called a 'pure Indian'.


jc


[Goanet] Daily Grook #970

2011-06-12 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #970
==
BOOK CROOK
==
by Francis Rodrigues




on library robbin'
i wldn't be hooked,
'cause for certain
you will be booked!



*GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com

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Re: [Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the Bleep cares about my last column?

2011-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes

 Selma wrote:-



 This project was spear-headed by Cliff Pereira, Eddie Fernandes and
 myself
 under the aegis of the Goan Association (UK) headed by Flavio Gracias as
 President and a team of board members.  All of us feel strongly about
 preserving our oral stories for future generations of Goans. Cliff is a
 Historical-Geographer and a Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society. He
 has
 done incredible research into world-wide Goan communities, works closely
 with learning institutions in the UK, organizing exhibitions, lectures,
 workshops and has had several papers published.  Eddie Fernandes needs no
 introduction. He has kept the Goan community connected for the past ten
 years through the GoanVoice UK newsletter. He works tirelessly to keep a
 diasporic community, such as ourselves, informed of events emanating from
 Goa and happening across the diaspora.

 Work on the proposal to submit to the Heritage Lottery Fund began almost
 six
 months ago. Mervyn Maciel got us the support of former District
 Commissioners of Kenya, who vouched for the need for such a project before
 the stories die with us. The devilishly handsome Tony Luis, as President of
 Croydon Seniors, Father Francis of the Goan Chaplaincy and the Young London
 Goan Society all lent their support for the proposal. As usual, the
 community rallied round. We are indeed strong when we want to be.

 So I ride into my hazy horizon to take up new responsibilities as a
 core-member of the 'Histories of British Goans' project. The project work
 will be spread over a course of two years. Primarily it will involve
 interviewing Goans and some non-Goans from colonial East Africa. These
 stories will be archived in leading British institutions who will partner
 with us. Already we have partnerships with the Royal Geographical Society
 and Bexley Archives to conduct workshops. We hope to build a website to
 disseminate recorded interviews across the Goan diaspora. Our objectives
 also include recording your stories in a book and a photo-exhibition.

 Ambitious plans, I know. But it is not the team that will be responsible
 for
 making it a success. As usual, it will be your support that will make it a
 success. So write to us to volunteer, or if you wish to be interviewed. Get
 your children involved. They will learn much about their own past and about
 their family histories. Free training will be made available for those who
 volunteer and their work will be viewed across the world. More details will
 be forthcoming about the project as they unfold. Register your interest by
 sending an email to britishgoansproj...@yahoo.co.uk

 So what can I say now, besides thank you.

 Do leave your feedback at carvalho_...@yahoo.com


COMMENT: What has been advertised today on GVUK is at total variance with
what you had posted previously. This is not a purely voluntary scheme, on
the contrary, some one will get paid!

I don't know, if this is being done to placate the G.O.A. Members or if this
is to make things more transparent! I don't know whether I should
congratulate you or commiserate with you.

I am a founder member of the G.O.A. in the U.K., in case, people ask what is
it to do with me. Here is the advert that appeared; readers it's make your
mind up time



*Vacancy: Project Manager - Histories of British-Goans Project*
The Goan Association (UK), with the support of the Heritage Lottery Funding,
will embark on a two-year project recording and archiving the oral-histories
of British-Goans. The successful applicant for the post of Project Manager
will have to recruit, train and lead a team of volunteers to conduct audio
and video interviews, conduct interviews themself, edit and upload the
output onto a website designed for the purpose, write summary transcripts,
liaise with external providers to arrange workshops and training, scope the
direction and methodology of the project, undertake archival and field
research, undertake all administrative tasks relating to the project,
generate publicity, provide curatorial input for a photo-exhibition and
collaborate on a publication. They will convene and chair meetings of the
core-team.

Candidates must be fluent in English with good knowledge of Konkani, and be
computer literate. They must be familiar with Goan history and that of its
Diaspora in East Africa, have some experience in undertaking research,
conducting interviews, managing a team, maintaining a website and
transforming raw data into a fluid narrative of the experience. They will
work from their own home office without supervision.

Salary: UK£ 500 per month plus related travel expenses. The candidate is
expected to work 17 hours per week and additional hours required to meet the
agreed objectives of the project within its life-time, will be volunteered.
They will report to the President of the Goan Association (UK).

Applications, with a CV, to be sent by post to: Mr Flavio Gracias, 76
Middleton Avenue, Greenford, Middlesex UB6 8BS 

[Goanet] California dreamin

2011-06-12 Thread George Pinto
INTERNATIONAL GOAN YOUTH CONVENTION, July 2-4, 2011, San Francisco, California.

The California Napa Valley Wine Country tour on July 1 (Friday) is a 
pre-convention OPTIONAL tour in one of the most scenic places on earth. The 
tour has a limited number of seats and is popular. Please book NOW to avoid any 
disappointment. Please sign-up directly with the tour operator, see details  
http://goasudharop.org/images/Tours-Brochure.pdf. Also note other OPTIONAL 
tours on the flyer.

The last day to get the discounted convention hotel rate of $165 per night plus 
tax is June 15, 2011. This rate is good for July 1, 2, 3 nights. After June 15 
the rates go up. Please book now. You DO NOT have to stay at the hotel to 
attend the convention and can stay with family/relatives/friends or any other 
hotel and commute if you wish.

The last day to get the early-bird rate for registration for the convention is 
also June 15, 2011. See convention details on website: 
http://goasudharop.org/node/729. Convention details on FACEBOOK: 
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=200042253351727. After June 15 the rates 
go up.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org


Re: [Goanet] Mayem Lake, Swans, ducks etc

2011-06-12 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro wrote:
 Dear Joe,
 Swans have very long necks and elegant bodies. These are ducks!
 Thanks for the pics anyway. I enjoy looking at all the photographs you 
 share with us.



Victor Rangel-Ribeiro,
When the question is swans, it is always a mute one. The reason being
that  the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern 
Ireland owns all of those.


When I first saw JoeUKGoa's pictures, I thought I had better keep mute 
as to the missing swans as I was taught at an early age that it was treason 
to dispatch any of the Queens swans and the crime punishable by death. 


Here in Toronto, swans are considered a pest and the wildlife authorities
oil their eggs so that they do not hatch and increase in population. I fully
expected people in India to have a more gastronomical method of looking
after the Queens property and hence, the explanation in the lack of swan's
in JoegoaUK's pictures.


If this above all reads as non-sense, here a link:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_Queen_of_England_own_all_the_swans


As far as JoeGoaUK is concerned, I too am a fan of all his pictures. 
I appreciate what he provides here. 
And that too for free.



Mervyn1532Lobo


Re: [Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT'S FOUR YEARS AS GOA CM A DISASTER

2011-06-12 Thread Roland Francis
Nascy Caldeira wrote:
 
All Marathi wadis should be deported to neighbouring Maharastra regions; as
Maharasthra is so BIG and amchem Goem is so Small.
We have no place for these underdeveloped un-enlightened trouble makers, who
want to govern only for their kind from Goa and not for the real Goans.

Riposte:
Nascy, are you willing to have in retaliation all the Goans in Maharastra
deported to Goa so that they can earn 5,000 rupees a month in the same job
that probably pays them 50,000 a month in Bombay?

Why don't you take the fight to Bombay and persuade Bal Thackeray to allow
the city to become politically independent of Maharashtra since it is the
economic engine of the country, is cosmopolitan and should justifiably
belong to all Indians rather than to Maharashtra alone? 

Let Parrikar and the BJP alone. Only they can save India, not Manmohan or
Sonia's Congress. I would go one step further and ask the entire Catholic
community in Goa to join the BJP. That is the best way to prevent their
communalistic tendency and to and remove the mats from under the feet of
Catholic criminal politicians like Churchill, Monserrate, Pacheco, Victoria
and their like who the community tends to tolerate because they are
Catholic.

I have heard Catholic voters comment that they require people like Churchill
to counter people like Narvekar and Ravi Naik. Such is the logic of people
who think they are Catholic, Hindus and Muslims before they think of
themselves as Indians.

Roland.
Toronto.



[Goanet] For kind favour of publication: ENTRANCE TEST FOR M.Sc. IN PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY

2011-06-12 Thread ST. XAVIER'S COLLEGE OF ARTS, SCIENCE COMMERCE -MAPUSA - GOA - INDIA - 403507 (0832-2262356-www.xavierscollege-goa.com)

Dear Sir,

I  will be grateful if you please publish the 
enclosed in your issue and oblige.


With many thanks and kind regards,

Yours sincerely,


Dr. (Fr.) Walter de Sá
PRINCIPAL
St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science  Commerce,
Xaviernagar, Mapusa - Goa - 403507 - INDIA.



ENTRANCE TEST FOR M.Sc. IN PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY

The entrance test for M.Sc. Physical Chemistry in 
St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, will be held in the 
College on 17th June, 2011, from 11:00 a.m. to 
12:30 p.m.  The last date for submitting 
application forms is 15th June, 2011, upto 12:30 p.m.


The handbook with application form is available 
in the College Office.  For details refer to the notice on the Notice Board.


Dr. (Fr.) Walter de Sá
PRINCIPAL
St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science  Commerce,
Xaviernagar, Mapusa - Goa - 403507 - INDIA.



[Goanet] Ban mobile phones and wireless networks in schools, say European leaders - Telegraph

2011-06-12 Thread Con Menezes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8514380/Ban-mobile-phones-and-wireless-networks-in-schools-say-European-leaders.html


[Goanet] Beware of this fake Gmail warning - DO NOT RESPOND TO IT

2011-06-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
http://hoaxandfraud.blogspot.com/2011/06/fwd-gmail-account-warning.html


[Goanet] Song for the day

2011-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
 Frank SINATRA - Forget Domani (Reprise Recordings 68)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivNrnq-PLhQ
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] Are Goa Journalists Now In Mortal Danger?

2011-06-12 Thread Roland Francis
It is a sad bit of news that India has now been featured in the 12th rank of
the 2010 Impunity Index of unsolved journalist murders. 

The brazen daylight killing of veteran crime reporter Jyotirmoy Dey of
Mid-Day Times has shocked that city. While riding on a motorcycle, he was
surrounded and shot five times. 

This means that organized crime is no longer operating by its own rules:
Avoid harm to female relatives of rivals.
Don't kill police officers.
Keep off journalists.

The stakes are getting bigger and established crime-lords who are in 'exile'
overseas are less able to control their operations. This was experienced in
the US after the Italian Mafia weakened and ceded power to the central and
south American gangs, the Jamaican posses, the Russian and East European
mafia and several lesser outfits. 

Goa is ripe and ready to suffer fallout from the Bombay criminal chaos for
the following reasons:
Funding for crime comes from Bombay. 
The Land mafia is seeing the vast areas in Goa they can grab.
The Mining Mafia is raking in untold wealth and will not brook any popular
opposition.
The Digambar Kamat Govt is impotent in key areas of administration.
The politicians in Goa comprise of well known criminals and abettors. The
classical politician-criminal-police nexus.
The Goa police have been ineffective against crime from liberation time.
Lately they have indeed become part of it.
The Goa CID has a conviction rate of zero percent.

It will start with the murder of one courageous journalist (I mean the
section that cannot be bought) to intimidate the entire press fraternity.
That always works and democracy will suffer as a consequence of that threat.
If Aires Rodrigues can be attacked in a restaurant in broad daylight, why
not a journalist?

Without any delay, prominent citizens should form a statewide Committee to
Protect Journalists and save lives that are important to the functioning of
democracy.  

Roland
Toronto.






Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-12 Thread floriano

Dear JC

I am a post August 15 1947 baby having been born on  2 August, 1947.
Therefore I am not 'Indian' but 'subcontinental Indian' if at all, a tribe 
of sorts, if you may.



Besides,  Goa had nothing to do with India as of  15 August 1947 as my GOA 
was India (subcontinental) Portuguesa, a separte country by itself or a 
Colony of an independent country called Portugal under the aegis of the 
United Nation Charter.


Therefore I do not consider myself a Citizen of India since 1961 but a 
citizen of Goa (minus the tag Portuguesa).


Therefore I shall be overjoyed to flash my GOAN PASSPORT  rather than any 
other forced down upon passport.
The question is: when am I getting one??  and who is going to give it to 
me??


Cheers
floriano
GRA/goasuraj
9422060347
www.goasu-raj.org
PS:
I guess I shall have to be the Goa's Shanana Gusmao to achieve this.
:-)

- Original Message - 
From: J. Colaco  jc cola...@gmail.com

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Cc: skip...@live.com.au
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?



floriano wrote: Kindly do correct a slight error by adding the word
'subcontinental' after Indian and Origin lest people misunderstand
you.

COMMENT:

Thank you Floriano.

I am not sure, however, if Eddie can make that change. The author of
the article must make the change. He may first make that change in his
own mind. That, I submit, is not a very easy thing for Goans.

In any event, before the author even considers making a change, he may
wish to revisit a few points in his own mind:

a: What are Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis?
b: What are Tibetans?
c: What are the people of the Andamans?
d: What doe the author mean by the term 'Indian'?
e: When did the country 'India', legally come into being? What was it 
before?

f: How about the Aryans and the Greeks et al .who came and settled
in what is now the Republic of India? Are they Greeks, Iranians,
Israelis or Eastern Europeans?

That is why Goans classify themselves as Goans. Then they assign their
new nationality.

For those who are of post 1947 (post 1961 in Goa's case), it is quite
easy to state that they are Goans of Indian origin.

For those who do not fall in the above category, the primary question
is: What do you mean by the term 'Indian'? Please do not tell me that
there is a race called Indian .or (except for the tribes and other
natives) there is anything called a 'pure Indian'.


jc 




Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
On 12 June 2011 09:15, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear JC

#1: I am a post August 15 1947 baby having been born on  2 August, 1947.

#2: Therefore I am not 'Indian' but 'subcontinental Indian' if at all,
a tribe of sorts, if you may.

===COMMENT

Dear Floriano,

I will consider the posting in #1 as a typo, and merely substitute the
prefix pre where you have it as 'post'.

It also depends where you were born.

Place of birth, most often, is crucial to the accordance of
nationality and/or visa.

For instance, if you were born on August 16, 1947 but in Pakistan,
August 16, 1947 in Bombay or December 18, 1961 in Moira would all
have different significance for nationality .

The basic question (repeat): What does the author mean by the term
'Indian' . and on what basis? Then the other questions.

Is it not so?

jc

just for info, I can legitimately call myself a Goan of Indian origin
who had and has reaffirmed Portuguese nationality (pre-and post Dec
19, 1961 respectively)


Re: [Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT'S FOUR YEARS AS GOA CM A DISASTER

2011-06-12 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Hey Roland,
 
Goans in Bombay or Mumbai or anywhere else are not asking for Konkni to be one 
of the 'State' Languages, nor are they asking for Konkni as MOI. We Goans do 
not 'make slums' in other places; we help each other and build Community clubs 
like KUDDS etc. for those who can't make it on their own. Most importantly We 
Goans Assimilate!!
 
Goans, Catholics and Hindus are in Bombay when it was a 'Province ' under the 
Raj; and are an important part of Bombay's growing up and social and cultural 
and political life.
Bombay became part of Maharastrah only after thr re organisation of states; and 
Gujarat that was part of Bombay Province became another state. Lets not go 
there; there is so much history that I have lived through!
 
Catholic Goans have No Segregation and Apartheid; in eating and living spaces!
 
About Bombay becoming Separate from Maharashtra is another issue altogether! 
Roland, It makes no sense putting different varied issues under one 'Goan only' 
topic and in response to my post!
 
Will U desist form this! An
 
Everyone has views and opinions; let us not put these in one basket; then all 
become 'rotten' to the lowest common denominator. 
Do not air your and others views in response to my posting and make it look 
like mine, OK?
 
See ya!
 
Nascy Caldeira
 

From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com
To: 'Nascy Caldeira' nascy...@yahoo.com.au; 'Goa's premiere mailing list, 
estb. 1994!' goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2011 5:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Goanet] DIGAMBAR KAMAT'S FOUR YEARS AS GOA CM A DISASTER

Nascy Caldeira wrote:
 
All Marathi wadis should be deported to neighbouring Maharastra regions; as
Maharasthra is so BIG and amchem Goem is so Small.
We have no place for these underdeveloped un-enlightened trouble makers, who
want to govern only for their kind from Goa and not for the real Goans.

Riposte:
Nascy, are you willing to have in retaliation all the Goans in Maharastra
deported to Goa so that they can earn 5,000 rupees a month in the same job
that probably pays them 50,000 a month in Bombay?

Why don't you take the fight to Bombay and persuade Bal Thackeray to allow
the city to become politically independent of Maharashtra since it is the
economic engine of the country, is cosmopolitan and should justifiably
belong to all Indians rather than to Maharashtra alone? 

Let Parrikar and the BJP alone. Only they can save India, not Manmohan or
Sonia's Congress. I would go one step further and ask the entire Catholic
community in Goa to join the BJP. That is the best way to prevent their
communalistic tendency and to and remove the mats from under the feet of
Catholic criminal politicians like Churchill, Monserrate, Pacheco, Victoria
and their like who the community tends to tolerate because they are
Catholic.

I have heard Catholic voters comment that they require people like Churchill
to counter people like Narvekar and Ravi Naik. Such is the logic of people
who think they are Catholic, Hindus and Muslims before they think of
themselves as Indians.

Roland.
Toronto.