[Goanet-News] Goa news for July 4, 2011
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa: Film on Scarlet shot without permission, authorities say - IBNLive.com NLive.comPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHxhgMyaSCZreDTA91NyB3Ow6hbTwurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-film-on-scarlet-shot-without-permission-authorities-say/746755.html *** Sewage pollution warning hits Goa - Scotland on Sunday among the most popular in India - are unfit for swimming and fishing because of high-levels of sewage, scientists have warned. They found dangerous levels of faecal coliform bacteria in coastal and river waters, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHVbrnbxpqy-oK6S-F8z6wjqxzP9wurl=http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/world/Sewage-pollution-warning-hits-Goa.6795003.jp *** NCP reiterates its demand for roll back of MoI decision - Times of India harge ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFVlHvVbn-5pw5MH0rJqMlgLo4Hzgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/NCP-reiterates-its-demand-for-roll-back-of-MoI-decision/articleshow/9080419.cms *** Saif, Abhay In Battle Of The Zombies - NDTV.com oms - Saif Ali Khan-produced Go Goa Gone and Abhay Deol-starrer Shaadi of the Dead - are set to go on floor at the same time. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEGYkNot_PXY-qSY2EEkI5wPHmorgurl=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20110179140keyword=bollywoodsubcatg=MOVIESINDIAnid=116324 *** Goa new home for tigers - Hindustan Times tracking wild tigers. Over 35 tigers have been found residing in Mhadei Wildlife Sanctuary in north Goa, about 60 to 90 kms from hot tourism hotspot beaches such as Anjum, Bombolin and Colva. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGfffcPXCMp249DX32y-bVaNvF4UQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Goa-new-home-for-tigers/Article1-716511.aspx *** Keeping Goan culture alive - Gulf Times IM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFyqq8DPIVi4ImR-hizaCTEuyHC3Aurl=http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=444825version=1template_id=36parent_id=16 *** Goa: Radio Mirchi Turns up the Heat during Monsoon! - Mangalorean.com ngalorean.comGoa, Jul 3: The Radio Mirchi World Environment Day Drawing Competition recently held in association with Goa Handicrafts Rural and Small Scale Industries Development Corporation was a grand success. The event began with a bang in the GTDC Residency, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE6Ea0OZD6AKxniSMi5Se2ImE8IwQurl=http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=248911 *** Big cats find a new home #148; Goa's Mhadei sanctuary - Hindustan Times ndustan TimesYour leisure trip to Goa will soon have an added advantage #148; tracking wild tigers. Over 35 tigers have been found residing in Mhadei Wildlife Sanctuary in north Goa, about 60 to 90 kms from hot tourism hot spot beaches such as Anjum, Bombolin and ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHZ64JBIulxUZFViq8_Akk1BSaLdQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Big-cats-find-a-new-home-Goa-s-Mhadei-sanctuary/Article1-716511.aspx *** Saif, Abhay to star in zombie comedies - Hindustan Times oms #148; the Saif Ali Khan-produced Go Goa Gone and the Abhay Deol-starrer Shaadi of the Dead - are set to go on floor at the same time. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGtuJD8F3-E9FTy6l8vbzXljZH_8Aurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Saif-Abhay-to-star-in-zombie-comedies/Article1-716802.aspx *** Crime branch forwards complaint to South Goa SP - Times of India pz7GM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFpOacdKxWGUHK3R9fsaPd_ZJrGvwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Crime-branch-forwards-complaint-to-South-Goa-SP/articleshow/9080445.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
I beg to differ with certain remarks or possibly presumptions by Selma. Catholics and Hindus for a large part mixed socially and culturally. That is why we have Mandos involving lyrics from both communities. Hindus also held high post in Portuguese Administration along with Catholics. Hindus and Catholics, whether literate or illiterate, mixed in both religious celebrations and other festivities and they still do. You can see so many Hindus paying respects to St. Francis Xavier, Our Lady at Mapsa feast, etc. The Muslims too though very limited in number as compared to present times, were also social. Portugal had good relations with the Persia and that was why even Prince Agha Khan (Karim Al Husseini) visited Goa in the late 1950s and we have the Garden in Margao named after him. (Agha Khan Park). Discrimination and harassment of minorities, what Selma speaks is different from communal ideology. In my perception this communal ideology derives its roots from a phobia of turning inferior and so depriving other of their free will or freedom. There have been no forceful conversions to Christianity in India as claimed; but yes, there were forceful re-conversions to Hinduism under threats and duress. Here too in Goa we see the MoI incident. Why deprive the poor an education in English? Is it because the rich who are protesting under the banner of BBSM can afford unaided schools? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] PARENTS - HAVE SPOKEN - Floriano
Dear Elvino, Your sentiments are well appreciated, nay, lauded. Thank you B/rgds floriano GRA/GSRP - Original Message - From: Elvino Rodrigues elrock...@gmail.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: averonicaf...@hotmail.com; Mario Rebello mario_rebe...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: [Goanet] PARENTS - HAVE SPOKEN - Floriano On behalf of Kuwait Konknni Kendr, We too join you, Floriano in congratulating the Solitary Parent/s who very proudly opted for KONKANI as MoI. It is very difficult to make the others understand the real dept of this subject. I am sure this Parent/s fully understood what he chose and why. I would add to these others as follows...It is easy to wake up a person from his sleep but it is very difficult to the one who is pretending he is sleeping. In one of your earlier posting, I understand you have rightly mentioned that the fight (by FORCE) is for GRANTS and should not have been titled as for MoI. Elvino.
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Dukrank Posun Kochreacho Proxn Suttavo Khorat
Dukrank Posun Kochreacho Proxn Suttavo Khorat Kalcha disaliar vachil’li gozal. Moddganvcha Municipality-cha vattharan, dukranchem utponn korop, posop, mas vikop, dhondo korop ani tancha sombondi halchal kortat zalear fuddarak thanv Moddganvche Muncipalitychi porvongi zai poddteli oxem, Chief Officer Prasann Acharya-n sanglam. Kochreachi pettin (waste bins) ghatlolo kochro dukram khatana, tatuntlo ibaddlolo kochro bhair poddun mhellsan zata ani lokacha arogeak mar bosta mhunn zaitea zannanchi tokrario, Kamracha odhikareank pavtti zaleat. Moddganvchem xar veparavixim chodd mothvachem aslolean, sorbhonvttim dukranchi ghann zata ti unnem korpachem kam’ Margao Municipal Council-an hatant ghetlam. Titlea mhonnosor, Pajifondd-axim kochreachi petti dovorli thoinsor ek tuntunit solog, aple sondden kochreachi petti addvi korunk proytn kortana, thoim pavon sorta xezarchi dukor. “Arre dukra, kitem korta?” “Ginean aslolea mon’xamni, kochreacha pettin ghatlolea kochrean boremxem kitem mellta zalear polletam. Adim hea xarant, non-vegetarian lok ravtalo khoim. Mhonnchem, nizache Goykar. Atam vegetarian lok bhorla. Ho lok, ruch naslolem koslem paddelem jevonn jevtta ghe yea?” “Kopaz korinaslolea bargea. Aicho ‘breaking news’ aikun nam tunvem?” “Aage dukri,. Goyant ‘breaking news’ unnem asat ghe? Aiz kitem zalem? Khoim uzo ghalun mon’xank ulpayleat? Anink khoincho Montri m-m-m, kitem mhonntat ghe taka. Ham!!! ugddas ailo. Kongres Sorkar, MoI fattim gheit zalear rajinamo ditolo mhunn sangtat?” “Arre tanchem poddum padd. Atam ami khub bhogchem asa.” “Orxim zaliar, koslem boremponn asa tor amkam? Vegetarian lokanchim mhellsan khatat dukram. Adim mon’xachi ollxig khavun adlea khallachea dukramni bholaiki samballi. Atam tem khan unnem zalolean, amchim pottam piddear zatat.” “Dukoruch tum. Aik tori hanv kitem sangunk sodtam tem. Amchi ghorvali, xezarcha Fulmenank sango, Moddganvcha xaran dukrank postole, dukrancho dhondo kortole, mas chevrisam viktoleamni, Moddganvche Municipalitik kollounchem mhunn novo kaido jahir kela. Ani toxem korinant tor, xarant heddtelea dukrank dorun jive martole khoim” “Okosmat, hem sogllem oxem-koxem ghe?” “Hem Moddganvchem xar adlea lokachem uronk nam. Hangasor, Bharot desantlea vhodd xarantlo lok ravunk lagla. Xarantlea rostiar dukor disop mhontlear, sudronk naslolem xar mhonntat te”. “Pillgechi pillgi hea xarant vosti korun ravli. Atanch tankam amchi addkol kosli? Ani tivui-i zalear bhailea lokak lagun? Hea xarant imaroti ubeo zaleat kitleo? Be-kaidhaxir zompdddeo hixeob mellonant titleo vaddleat. Vhodd-vhodd imarintlo kochro ani zompddeamni ravtoleanchi sokallchi ollxig pollevnk, Kamramcha mon’xank vitt yena? Thoddem bhov dukor khatat mhunn xar nigut urta. Na tor panch vo so dis poddun urtolea kochreacher kimsanchem, undir ani musachem raj cholta tem disona kai? Kochreacha ghann-ghunntanin, kimsache trasak lagun lokachi arogea ibaddta ti pollevnk, Moddganv Municipalitin vavurpeanche dolle kudd’de zaleat? Atam xemboram voir odik kaidean biradd korun ravtolea Navelim lokache hal zatale tem tum zanna? Navelim ganvan sumar 8 imarotichi ghann-mhellsan thoincha xetan ani Shirvodem Saipem tollean pavta mhunn, Moddganvchi Municipality ani Goa State Pollution Control Board, (GSPCB) hea atth imarotincher karvai choloytole ani zait ghoddi, fuddlea sumanan tankam udok ani bizli bond poddtoli oxi bhirant asa. Guneanv konnacho? Chovdda vorsam hea imarotini biradd kelea uprant, hea lokak fugasanv kiteak? Dukranim mhellsan keli na, punn monis korteli mhellsan dukram khavun xar limpar kortat. Tea khatir, dukrank pospachi yevzonn sorkaran korchi ani nhoi dukrankchi sonsot khabar korchi. Aiz meren sorkarachan kochreacho proxn suttavo korun zaina. Aikota dukri? Aghe, mhojea tonddank ham-m-m korun polleta kiteak?” “Hanv sodanch somzotalim tuka mendu asun tum ek bonddo mhunn. Aiz gomlem mhaka. Tujea bezan zaitem asa. Dekun moniszat dukrachi mendik chodd demand ditat. Punn ek sang re. Mhoje bhaxen tuka ghorwali na. Tum hangasor koso?” “Hanvem aikolam tea pormonnem Konkan Railway-k lagon zaitem noxtt ani pidda Goyant bhitor sorlea. Zankaramni sol’lo (advise) dil’lo khoim, hea margavelean Konkan Reilvey ailear soimbik udkacheo vatto vo vall asat te purvotele ani udik bhorun butt’ti yeteli. Ani khorench, ghelea vorsak boroch pavsacho hunvar ailo ani hunvaracher lottun hanv hanga pavlom ani heddot vaddlom” “Oi. Mhojea noxiban tuka pavoilo.” “Kiteak itlea umedin sangta ghe tum?” “Hevui pavtti tujea udexim gabar zaleam hanv. Lino B. Dourado
[Goanet] Re : No Chicken Soup and fish - Hitler's soup recommended?
No Soter, you are mistaken. The Delhi clown Tarun Vijay of the BJP wants Goan babies to drink Maharashtra mothers’ milk. Huh? Let this CLOWN know that Goans are not orphans and do not need surrogate mothers. Their parents know what is best for them. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #986
DAILY GROOK #986 VOMIT PERMIT by Francis Rodrigues the greedy cannibal ate arms by the tens, then when over-full threw up his hands! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910
[Goanet] Song for the day.
Doris Dayhttp://www.youtube.com/artist/Doris_Day?feature=watch_video_title: Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHAOlgjfJ8 Geri Halliwell and Emma Bunton - Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjQ_kqqVKsfeature=related -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] FW: Go Goa Gone
Hi Goaneters, Woh Goenkara another milestone discovered by NIO, congratulations to our Goa Tourism Minister. This is an international award for Goa. Whole world came to know about this coliform bacteria due to hotels sewage across the rivers and beaches. Forest, mines, fields and now water pollution. What more to come in Goa. Well done caretakers keep it up and ruin whole Goa at the end. Regards, Mario Vicente Santos Pereira, Email: m_pere...@qp.com.qa Message: 6 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Goanet News Service n...@goanet.org To: goa...@goanet.org, gn-n...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goa news for July 3, 2011 Message-ID: 20110702233002.c0538d582...@ps24210.dreamhostps.com Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sewage pollution warning hits Goa - Scotland on Sunday among the most popular in India - are unfit for swimming and fishing because of high-levels of sewage, scientists have warned. They found dangerous levels of faecal coliform bacteria in coastal and river waters, ... * This e-mail and any attachments are confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it in any way what so ever. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message, and delete the original and any print out thereof.
[Goanet] BJP on mother's mik and fish
The BJP clowns like Tarun Vijay who descend on Goa take the liberty of shooting their mouths without understanding the culture of the Goan people. That is why we hear statements that primary education in English medium is like replacing mother's milk with chicken and fish. There are hardly any true Goans who are pure vegetarian and fish is considered as precious as mother's milk in the Goan diet. Keep the Goan without fish for a few days and the performance will suffer, he will experience withdrawal symptoms.Therefore the Government's decision to introduce primary education in the English medium is as necessary as it is as important as fish in the plate of a Goan. Of course the chicken xacuti is as tasty as mother's milk and another very important food supplement in the diet. So Tarun Vijay has landed up putting his foot in his mouth. A lie can never be defended eternally. -Soter D.
[Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes' Sunday Masala: Don't be cruel!
Title: Don't Be Cruel! By: Cyprian Fernandes Source: Goan Voice UK Newsletter, 3 July 2011 at www.goanvoice.org.uk I offer these thoughts not because I am a saint or that I take the high moral ground, nor is it because I am holier than the next person. I have my own faults and foibles. Generation after generation, there is one trait in our gene pool that does not seem to die out. It is the gene responsible for back biting, pettiness, point scoring, gossiping, stirring, finding fault unnecessarily, trouble making, making one insidious, and victimising one person to get to another. It is also the gene that does not allow some the grace of quiet and considered debate instead of the personal abuse and vitriol. Abuse comes cheap, it does not cost anything. This may not be restricted to any one community but I suspect that it is evident more than most among Goans. At least that has been my experience for more than half a century. Surely, it is not still happening in this day and age? Surely we are a much more educated lot, much more tolerant, kinder to the least amongst us, we have God on our side, we have children who are brain surgeons, CEOs of multi-billion dollar companies, we are surrounded by wisdom, clear thoughts and kindness to every living creature? Are we not? If yes, why then do we hurt the people we love most? Living in Sydney, Australia, I encountered small doses of this gene in the early 1980s and 1990s. It was the behaviour that turned embarrassed children away from the GOA. They could not understand their parents' pettiness. It is a gene that split families, broke long-standing friendships, polarised groups of people and now as some edge to the twilight of their years, there is no forgiveness, no remorse. I saw some of the worst examples from Goans in other countries. I had forgotten about it all until I began reading the vitriol on the current MOI debate, issues in the Goan media, and personal attacks in GoaNet. Contributors to the Letters to Editor pages don't hold anything back either. Don't make the mistake of thinking that it is all bad. On the contrary, I am grateful to these mediums for some excellent thinking. Life is too short for anyone to indulge in pettiness or attempt to score a cheap point in the process striking at that person's innocent heart. Stirring for the sake of stirring is evil indeed The Global Goan Convention which is only weeks away in London has its detractors. The main argument is that since 2006 its agenda has not shifted very much nor has it delivered anything tangible and that it does not have the active support of the local Goan population. I do not know enough about the subject to hold a candle one way or another but I feel it is somewhat unethical to criticise folk just for attempting to bang their heads against perennial brick walls. It is like that childhood story: Goans are like crabs in a bucket, when one tries to get out, nine are ready to pull him down. My question is: if we have a problem why wait until a few weeks before the event? Surely there must be avenues to explore before the event where people can be held accountable with quiet dignity and mutual respect. There is no room for airing dirty laundry in public or clean laundry fraudulently presented as rubbish. The truth deserves respect in any argument, without it there is no integrity. My fellow social commentators on Goan subjects will dismiss me as a hair-brained lecturer, or an asylum seeking grandmother teaching experts to suck eggs, or simply as a well-intentioned fool who does not know what he is talking about. If that is the case, why does my heart ache? With these Goan barbs and thorns I have seen many a wonderful dedication rendered wasteful and lost to the greater good of the community. Where is the wisdom in that? Yes, the pen is mightier than the sword but not when it is a poisoned pen. There is no honest toil in that. Just like in vegetables, they will get the bad gene out. Comments to skip...@live.com.au Check out his website http://cyprianfernandes.blogsite.com
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on the Co-operative as a safer, better and more sustainable business model
-- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO the fortnightly discussion event since 1999 --- Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 8th July from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa. TOPIC: The Co-operative: a safer, better and more sustainable business model. SPEAKER:Open Discussion We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the FRIDAY BALCAO. If you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by email to goad...@gmail.com best wishes, Roland Martins --- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! --- GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail to: goad...@gmail.com
[Goanet] Doubts over Dominique Strauss-Kahn 'victim' raised days after his arrest
Seems like there was a rush to judgment; apparently, according to the NY Post the woman was a part time hooker. Full read @ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8613330/Doubts-over-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-victim-raised-days-after-his-arrest.html -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Congress government in perpetuity in Goa?
The MOI issue has created a strange dynamic in Goa. With the threat of a non-Congress government reneging on grants to English medium schools, the Catholics of Goa are caught in a bind of voting Congress forever. This gives Congress carte blanche is other matters. To carry on without any real opposition to crucial matters. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we decide to thwart the will of the people. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes' Sunday Masala: Don't be cruel!
On 3 July 2011 08:35, Eddie Fernandes eddie.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Title: Don't Be Cruel! By: Cyprian Fernandes Source: Goan Voice UK Newsletter, 3 July 2011 at www.goanvoice.org.uk Comments to skip...@live.com.au Check out his website http://cyprianfernandes.blogsite.com Don't be cruel? hmmm sounds like an Elvis Presley song; here it is:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbiuhi-UC7Ifeature=related -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] PARENTS - HAVE SPOKEN - Floriano
My guess is that the parents in Goa (particularly among the Catholic community, which is directly affected) would have not been raising such a ruckus if they had the choice to study in Romi Konkani. That is, if Devanagari had not been stealthily inserted into the language act through a eleventh-hour amendment in the Official Language Act. Elvino and Floriano, have you experienced what a regional language and mother tongue MoI means, as far as your own children or grandchildren go? FN On 2 July 2011 22:16, Elvino Rodrigues elrock...@gmail.com wrote: On behalf of Kuwait Konknni Kendr, We too join you, Floriano in congratulating the Solitary Parent/s who very proudly opted for KONKANI as MoI. It is very difficult to make the others understand the real dept of this subject. I am sure this Parent/s fully understood what he chose and why. I would add to these others as follows...It is easy to wake up a person from his sleep but it is very difficult to the one who is pretending he is sleeping. In one of your earlier posting, I understand you have rightly mentioned that the fight (by FORCE) is for GRANTS and should not have been titled as for MoI.
[Goanet] Western classical music - Missing names.
Victor Paranjyoti, Jerry Rodrigues, Caesar Coelho. Not lastly, Victor Rangel Ribeiro - Music history, authorship, conductor ! eric. From: Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 5:38:30 PM Subject: [Goanet] Western classical music (in India) Looks like Goa has been written out of the story (as happens often!) --FN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_India#Western_classical_music Western classical music The spread and following of Western classical music in India is almost entirely non-existent. It is mainly patronized by the Indian Zoroastrian community and small esoteric groups with historical exposure to Western classical music. Another esoteric group with significant patronage is the Protestant Christian community in Chennai and Bangalore. St Andrews and St Georges in Chennai and St Marks in Bangalore are churches with regular pipe organ recitals. Western Music education is also severely neglected and pretty rare in India. Western keyboard, drums and guitar instruction being an exception as it has found some interest; mainly in an effort to create musicians to service contemporary popular Indian music. Many reasons have been citied for the obscurity of Western classical music in India, a country rich in its musical heritage by its own right, however the two main reasons are an utter lack of exposure and a passive disinterest in what is considered esoteric at best. Also, the difficulty in importing Western musical instruments and their rarity has also contributed to the obscurity of classical Western music. Despite more than a century of exposure to Western classical music and two centuries of British colonialism, classical music in India has never gained more than 'fringe' popularity. Many attempts to popularize Western classical music in India have failed in the past due to disinterest and lack of sustained efforts. Today, Western classical music education has improved with the help of numerous institutions in India. Institutions like Calcutta School of Music, Bangalore School of Music, Eastern Fare Music Foundation[4], Delhi School of Music, Delhi Music Academy, Mehli Mehta Music Foundation and many others are dedicated to contributing to the progress or growth and supporting Western classical music. In 1930, notable Mehli Mehta set up the Bombay Symphony Orchestra. In 2006, the Symphony Orchestra of India was founded, housed at the NCPA in Mumbai. It has since presented two short concert seasons per year. Some prominent Indians in Western classical music are: Andre de Quadros, Conductor and Music Educator. Zubin Mehta, Renowned music conductor. Mehli Mehta, Father of Zubin, violinist and founding conductor of the Bombay Symphony Orchestra. Ilaiyaraaja, the first Asian to compose a full symphony performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in London's Walthamstow Town Hall. Naresh Sohal, British Indian-born composer. Param Vir, British Indian-born composer. Karishmeh Felfeli, Indian-born Irani pianist and radio broadcaster. Sandee Bhagwati, German Indian-born composer. Opera singers: Amar Muchhala, Patrizia Rosario -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha THIS SPACE IS F.R.E.E. TO ADVERTISE A GOOD CAUSE! Poetry in lyrics: Sun Jul 17, 2011 at Goa http://bit.ly/l9AMvR
[Goanet] Countryside
Countryside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAy07dIUs4A HD http://youtu.be/zAy07dIUs4A?hd=1 This pic also appeared in front page GT/weekender today http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5886862107/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
On 3 July 2011 07:53, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: Floriano wrote: Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it subdued was the unmitigating 'disciplined' rule of the Portuguese. That gone, communalism got to budding afresh. Both Catholics and Hindus (and not to forget atheists, agnostics and, to a lesser degree perhaps because of their smaller numbers here, Muslims too) have suffered from the raging fever of communalism at different points of time in Goa's history. It is impossible to blame one side alone. If you ask me, the Catholics held the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961. (Though it's more complex than that, are there were intense caste including Bamon-versus-Chardo battles within Catholicism too for much of the 20th century, for instance.) Strangely, Catholics in Goa are perhaps a rare minority that have the arrogance of a majority. To fill in the other end of the pool. Hindus in Goa are one majority which sometimes think like a minority -- see the our-language-under-seige mentality in force currently. By repeatedly playing up on stereotypes of the past, such fears are kept alive and are quick to surface when needed. Post-1961, there has been an undeniable spurt in Hindu communalism (due to electoral politics too), though it is definitely unreal to pretend that communalism came to Goa only in 1961. Even if we didn't feel or see the impact of it earlier. Undeniably, the politicians and the media play a big role in stoking communalism for their own goals. While someone like Floriano might vent his thoughts without thinking twice, the more influential parties (Congress, BJP definitely, Goa Congress, UGDP... and other have beens) are certainly more sophisticated in playing this 'game'. Zero-sum-games do dominate Goa. We believe that if The Other wins, then we have to lose. However we define The Other and we (and the boundaries keep shifting). This is all the more sad because, if people had played as a team, and understood each other better, I'm sure Goa could be a fairly high-ranked top-grade team! FN
[Goanet] Goa: God's Miracle on Earth: George Menezes
Hi Pals, Please check and comment on the following video clip at YouTube: Thanks Regards. Joel. *Goa: God's Miracle on Earth: George Menezes* Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADU2YPJ87Ig The writer with enormous wit, George Menezes, attracted quite a few writers, book lovers and others to the June 2011 meet of the Goa Book Club at Broadway Book Centre in Panjim, Goa. A rather casual, rough video clip gives a few snatches of George's address, which nobody felt was long enough… They could just go on listening to the great talker, and George just relished it. *Goamovie*
Re: [Goanet] BJP on mother's mik and fish
SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: The BJP clowns like Tarun Vijay who descend on Goa take the liberty of shooting their mouths without understanding the culture of the Goan people. That is why we hear statements that primary education in English medium is like replacing mother's milk with chicken and fish. comment: 1: I am almost sure that Tarun Vijay is NOT a clown. 2: Agents are not clowns 3: His advice is worse than Clowny 4: Goans who follow his advice will be clowns 5: BTW: By the time children enter primary school, I hope they are off breast milk. jc ps: Not unexpectedly, this MOI issue - is hardly about education. It is about politics, and it is taking a distinctly communal flavour. Curiously, the BJP were hoping that Salcete would exclusively vote with them.
[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: 'Tum Atam Kiteak Boroyna?'
SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: ‘Tum Atam Kiteak Boroyna?’ - Jose Salvador Fernandes “Tum atam poilim bhaxen Konknni potram-masikancher kiteak boroyna?” Khub kallan, nhidentlean uttun konnem tori mhaka proxn kelolea vori dislem. Proxn vicharpi aslo ‘To.’ Potram-masikancher boroytalom tednacho mhozo vachpi. Ponnje Bhosle Hotelant to-ui mhoje porinch sanjeche chavek ailolo. Hanv boslolom teach mezar taka suvat mell’loli. Tem mez fokot amkam dogaimkuch rakhun (reserve) dovorlolea porim. Tacho to proxn vachun hanvem tondd hanstem kelem… punn bhitorlean mon mat fattleo gozali jiteo korunk ugddasachea umbrear yevn ubem ravlem. “Borovpachem soddlem tem soddlem…. Ulovpachem-i soddlem?” To mhaka barik niyallit ravlo. Mhoje zapechi vatt pollet. Khuinche-i poristhitent hanvem tachea proxnachi zap diunkuch zai mhonnlolea porim. Apnnem vicharlolea proxnachi zap xikpi ditolo mhunn xikovpi taka eksarko polleun ravta toso. “Hanvem borovpachem bond korunk na. Azun-ui borovp chalu asa!” Hanvem mhoji borovpachi dhadoskay ghonttit taka zap dili. “Masikancher tor disonant tujim borovpam? Khuim boroyta ani khuim chhapun yetat tor tim?” Chavek taneloleak chavecho ghontt marlea xivay suseg na zalolea vori tannem mhaka fuddem proxn kelo. Titlean thoim veittor ubo zalo. “Mhaka ek bun ani chav. Sakor chodd ghalum naka.” Veittorachea tonddak pollenastanach tannem order dili. “Tor sang mure amkam, khuim chhapun yetat tim...” Tannem mhojea tonddak pollet proxnachea rupan atam mhaka order dili. “Son’varachim Sungttam hea mathallea khal atam ‘net’-avelean boroytam. Poillea Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter (http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans); http://sonvarchimsungttam.blogspot.com/; http://www.goa-world.com/ hacher mhojim borovpam dor son’varak vachunk melltat.” “Oxem? Ami baba khuim tim nettam-fettam vaprunk zannanv? Tim tumkanch borim! Atanchea bhurgeank!” Tannem mhaka bhurgo mhonnlo tachevelean tachi piray kitli pasun astoli hacho hanvem sumar marlo. Ani titleanuch sumaranxi sakor ghaloli tachi chav ani bun veittoran haddun mezar dovorlo. “Punn tunvem Konknni masikancher borovpachem kiteak soddlem tem mat azun sangunk na?” Plettintlea bun-acho kuddko kaddit to porot-ui mull proxna kodde ailo. “Taka karonn asa.” “Mhaka sangunk zaina itlem ghuttachem tor tem?” Tem karonn zanna zavpa fattli tachi umollxik azun-ui toxich asli. Ani tache te umollxikek niyallit mhoji yen’na mhonnosor chav piyeun somploli. Hanv uttun vochpachich vatt polletalom. Itlean thoim ek giraik yevn ubem zalem. “Tujem zalem,atam hanv bostam” oxe nodren to ubo aslolo monis mhaka polletalo. “Dusre pavtt melltam tednam sangtam. Chodd-so hangach yetam hanv chav piyeunk.” Oxem sangot, veittoran bil haddche poilinch hanv mhoje boskevelo uttun gol’leaxim gelom. Duddu farik korun ghora yevpachi vatt dhorli. Bambolle Goa Medical College (GMC)-xim pavta mhonnosor to mhozo vachpi mhojea monachea porddear ubo zalo. Porot-ui tench ‘karonn’ vicharit. Tednam mhojea monan tem ‘karonn’ porot jitem-jivem kelem… … tea masikak tharaylolea vella ani utram bhitor original lekh boroun dhaddlo… punn mhozo lekh tea mhoineant chhapun ailoch na… Tea bodlek masikacher mhaka anik ek lekh dislo… ekach vixoyacher hanga-thoim konnem-konnem kitem boroylolem tem ekttaun toyar kelolo to tea borovpeacho lekh… porikxek hachi-tachi kopi marun ordkutti zap toyar kelolea vori. Zannun gheum-ia mhonnit som’padpiak chitt boroun, mhozo lekh na uzvadda haddpa fattlem karonn vicharlem. Zalear tannem mhaka kitem zap diunchi? “Tujea lekhak zago naslo mhunn chhapunk na.” Hi zap vachun som’padpiak rokddich porot zap boroyli. “Mhozo original lekh chhapun haddunk tuje kodde zago naslo, punn hanga-thoim boroyloleache kope kaddun lekh toyar kelolo to chhapunk mat tuka aito zago mell’lo tor? Konknnint vachun kaddpa itlinch pustokam asat. Tannem khuinchean te kope kaddun aplo lekh toyar kela tachi tuka Konknnintlo som’padpi koso khobor asunk zai asli! Punn ti tuka na mhunn sangunk mhaka duk bhogta!” Duk bhogli mhaka, punn te dukicho porinnam’ mat tea som’padpiacher zalo. Itlo porinnam’ zalo, xevttim hanvem dhaddlolim borovpam chhapun haddunk zaina titlo to osokt ani dubllo zalo – monan! Punn hanv mat girest zalom – tachea onnbhovan! Son'var, 2-07-2011 http://www.goa-world.com/
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (2Jul11)
*** GOA - Doctors Day - 2 July: Cheers *** You need a Break from the toxic dust of Mining...Scams...Drugs... Garbage...Mega Projects or you will have a major Break Down! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 618
--- On Sat, 2/7/11, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org wrote: From: goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 618 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011, 12:30 PM Message: 6 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:44:04 +0530 From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] DEFENDING THEIR FEIFDOM-LOKPAL BILL Message-ID: camhuf+harm0bbvjrayav4de2zcm14ejzd7xtytr7lcbey8c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 John Gomes; Nobody can act like Superman/Dictator,Everything will be transparent and accountability is built in! The Lokpal has many members, with well thought out checks and balances, and arms in all States. There are stringent selection processes, procedures for removing members or the Lokpal, all actions/decisions subject to judicial review. It will be a body like the Election Commission.Do not believe the propaganda by the government.They keep repeating it on TV and in print! Justice Santosh Hegde is also with Supreme Court service AND is a practising Lok Ayukyta,TRY AS HE MIGHT IS unable to move and reign in corruption in the Karnataka government.I spoke to him on these very points when he was in Goa! Further,this is not a magic wand but required since the many laws in existance are definately more than enough but are just not being or allowed to be implemented.Permission has to be taken from those alleged culprits to even start enquiry.,CBI is their handmaiden and CVC hamstrung etc.The Civil Society members are experienced and eminent people,the best we have for this purpose of drafting a strong bill.Yes,even if passed,it will have to be implemented for which electoral, police,administrative and judicial reforms must follow! Let us take positive steps possible and not pontificate without moving forward .For forty years they have blocked this Bill .ARE YOU GOING TO LET THEM DO IT AGAIN? * * Response: Dear John, Please do not get me wrong. I am all for the Lok Pal Bill. However, kindly pardon me if I appear sceptical about how it is going to unfold. The draft bill of Anna Hazare Co is at one end of the spectrum and the draft bill of the government is at the other end. The issue is of the twain meeting. Anna?s bill is highly idealistic and not driven by ground realities. It also suffers from certain presumptions and creates an exclusive club of who will stand in judgement. In this regard, I would recommend you to read Shekhar Gupta?s article in the Indian Express (Our Singapore fantasy http://www.indianexpress.com/news/our-singapore-fantasy/808505) Unless, there is change in the basic structure of funding political parties, reforms in the police and judicial processes and systems, revampment of legislations to bring them in line with today?s needs and realities like that done in the financial sector ( witness the transparency and smooth trading with the advent of online trading systems, the disappearance of investor?s complaints by dematerializing stocks and securities, etc) , it would be expecting too much from the Lok Pal. He would need an entirely parallel apparatus of policemen, investigating officers, judicial officers, witness protection, judicial powers to call for and preserve documents, if he is to do justice to his post. (Look how Narendra Modi's government has destroyed all records and evidences relating to the 2002 Gujarat killings or how sensitive Adarsh files have gone missing) How on earth will anyone with the best of intentions pin the guilty under conditions like this? Regards, Marshall Response Dear Marshall, Skepticism is good,idealism is better! Why the hell has this whole thing arisen? Arent the PAC and Election Commission,CIC organisations we can rely on to uphold the law without prejudice?This is no exclusive club but an independent TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE organisation which will not say you are unelected and unelectable,so shut up! Sure,we can endlessly ruminate on what should be.You reach for the sky and maybe you land on a treetop insted of wallowing in the dirt. Frail Anna is willing to risk his life for this blackmail.The least we can do is back him and his eminent team who are still discussing and will modify their stand but keeping civil society and anti-corruption in mind.How on earth will???They are suggesting a path! What is your solution? SincerelyJEG --
[Goanet] Chitrangan - A Revolutionary Course in the Fundamentals of Drawing at Gallery Gitanjali
Gallery Gitanjali and Apurva Kulkarni invite you to Chitrangan - a courtyard that will nurture your creativity leading to artistic self-discovery as limitless as the sky. Orchestrated as a series of workshops Chitrangan is a course in the fundamentals of drawing meant for anyone who aspires to be creative. Designed for those with little or no drawing experience the course will include written and verbal instructions, demonstrations by established artists, slideshows and intensive feedback and analyses of artworks. Chitrangan's unique methods of instruction will initiate the participants to create a series of drawing exercises and experiments, inducing in the process, a certain way of seeing. These initiations will include an array of exercises: right from the basics of making marks to the creation of mixed media drawings; from traditional and modernist to post-modernist and conceptual methods. In addition, detailed demonstrations by artists as diverse as Norman Tagore, Praveen Naik , Vasudev Shetye and Wilson D'Souza will be an inherent part of the course. To be held on weekends spread over a few months Chitrangan will propel you on a stimulating journey into the heart of your artistic self.. Conceived by artist and art historian Apurva Kulkarni and assisted by established younger artists Norman Tagore, Praveen Naik and Vasudev Shetye, Chitrangan is a revolutionary course supported by Shaistah Thapar, one of the foremost collectors of art in Goa. You are invited to the opening session of Chitrangan on 9th July at 6.30 pm featuring a brief illustrated talk on drawing, a demonstration of drawing by Norman Tagore and an informal display of sketches, studies and drawings - old and new, by Charudutta Prabhudesai, Rajeshree Thakker, Wilson D'Souza, Praveen Naik, Vasudev Shetye, Norman Tagore and Apurva Kulkarni. For further details kindly contact : gallerygitanj...@gmail.com / 9823572035 Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British!
Sane and rational Goanetters would have learned to ignore crackpot nascimental nonsense by now. But let me point out that as far as both female infanticide and female foeticide are concerned, China is worse than India. The immoral policies of its communist government have caused the male to female ratio of China to grow to 1.21, i.e. there are 120 boys for every 100 girls at present. The corresponding ratio in India is 1.08. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 7/1/11, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Nascy Caldeira wrote: Let the Chinese in! They will certainly eradicate..idiosyncracies, like female infanticide, RESPONSE: Baba Nascy, It is possible that you too need to read a wee bit more and then post a correction. BTW: You may also have mis-comprehended the term 'INFANT' and confused it with the term 'FOETUS' jc Not from Oxford
[Goanet] Congress government in perpetuity in Goa?
Selma wrote: The MOI issue has created a strange dynamic in Goa. With the threat of a non-Congress government reneging on grants to English medium schools, the Catholics of Goa are caught in a bind of voting Congress forever. Opinion: 1. There is no threat of a non-Congress government in Goa arising from the MoI issue. The hype created on the issue in the virtual world is far greater than what is actually the reality on ground. The almost unanimous verdict for English medium in diocesan schools is witness to the fact that Hindu parents also support the medium. 2. It is not true that Catholics alone vote for Congress. A huge chunk of Hindus also support the Congress. That Congress gets to power in Goa only by Salcette votes is a misinformation generated by divisive forces to malign the catholics. 3. The MoI polarisation has further minimised the chances of a non-Congress force emerging in these elections unless Congress commits some political blunder in the coming days. 4. If Hindus can eternally embrace MGP or BJP no matter what their track record is, the Catholics should not succumb to the anti-Congress forces' induced guilt psychosis for voting Congress. Catholics have a right to making their independent choices. -Soter
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
Frederick FN Noronha wrote: 1: If you ask me, the Catholics held the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961. 2: Strangely, Catholics in Goa are perhaps a rare minority that have the arrogance of a majority REQUEST: While I have come to realise (rightly or wrongly) that FN (a well known journalist) has become accustomed to making sweeping statements, which may or may not be based of facts, I make the following request of him: Could you, FN, please provide factual evidence to support the above 2 statements from you? You may wish to include, in your response, any social or anti-social studies you or anyone else may or may not have conducted to study this 'strange' phenomenon. I can only add this: as a simple, average-knowledgeable physician, I know that I could not get away with making sweeping generalization (in the field of medicine) without referring to well tested research papers. Thank you jc
[Goanet] Global Goans convention
Camilo Fernandes - Response to Tony's below post : With due respects to Tony, nowhere in my post have I called you dirty or said that all Indians are dirty. All that I wrote was most Indians have civic sense while abroad but forget it when in India. While I agree that basic necessities of life come before sanitation as with poor people living in slums, there is no excuse for literate middle class people.Often even literate middle class persons living in flats dont have the civic sense as so many times, they would discard litter in their compounds. Their flats/homes may be clean while their compounds/surroundings are dirty. It appears that their surroundings are of no concern to them. I appreciate your stand regarding maintaining toilets set by Sulabh organisation. Setting up toilets is good and necessary but maintaining them is equally important. Ideally using them should be free as the Government should subsidise and get private organisations to sponsor them.However if this is not possible, then charging a small fee is the last alternative and maintaining them to basic cleanliness is very important. Dev borem korum Camilo Fernandes Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com To: Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994 goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan awakening in London - Global Goans convention I object to being called dirty in any of its senses but I cannot speak for you or Selma or for that matter any of the Goans who write on this forum and the lurkers who merely read the posts and have hearty laughs some times. It is my argument that if you do not have the basic necessities of life, viz food, water, shelter and clothing, then your scramble for these has first priority in your book of things and then the niceties of civilization - such as sanitation. What I was trying to point out when I aired my grouse about the one public toilet in Panjim is the loot by the organization and or the employees of the group maintaining the toilets - the Sulabh Organization which merely puts up amenities and then neglects them after some time. It is not that these services are free!
[Goanet] Subject: Re : No Chicken Soup and fish - Hitler's soup recommended?
To : All those who wish to fish in the murky waters of the MOI controversy Please find out the numbers of students opting for each of the three languages vis a vis the enrolled number. Information easy to come by with a simple RTI application. No need for a separate referendum or any such thing. The parents have spoken and let that be final. -- Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com
[Goanet] Margao Pics
Margao Pics yesterday.. Actually them two were making love.. I interrupted them, naughty me! Popular Margao Municipal garden http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5896672661/sizes/l/ The municipality at dawn http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5897241404/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5896675223/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5897243756/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...
A friend wants to renovate an old-style Goan house, and is looking for the old red tiles that used to be in the past (so as to retain the old look). Would anyone know where these are available? Many thanks, FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
[Goanet] MUSIC: Boney Alex releases Tuzo Uggdas
Boney began working on Tuzo Uggdas since January 2011. The entire project was self-funded. The Album was released on July 1, 2011 at the Santa Cruz church hall in the presence of the local MLA, the director of the film, O Maria and a crowd of about 250 people. A brief about Boney Alex: Boney started learning music when he was about 10 years old. Since then his first love has always been music. With his dedication to learning and playing music he has now turned into one of Goa's best guitarist. Of course not many can play distortion at the age of 15. He plays for Band India. About the music: The music Boney has composed for the album is unique in its own flavour. It is a mix of rap, western classical, indian classical. Links: http://www.facebook.com/BoneyAlex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifqd3n9Hods Source: Naresh Shetti - http://nimagemaker.wordpress.com/ Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
Re: [Goanet] Countryside
Beautiful photographs! I was in Goa last year in August 2010. Your photographs bring back memories of the green Goa I experienced. The train ride from Margao to Mumbai was spectacular with waterfalls all along the way. Lovely! Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:22:04 +0100 From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Countryside Countryside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAy07dIUs4A HD http://youtu.be/zAy07dIUs4A?hd=1 This pic also appeared in front page GT/weekender today http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk42/5886862107/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Toronto Tiatr Kumsar comedy clips
Here are the following comedy clips performed by Serah Barbosa, Agnelo Gracias, Gaspar Moraes and Sylda Gracias from the recent housefull Tiatr Kumsar written by Pascoal Rodrigues and directed by Joe Vaz and held on June 18th in Toronto, Canada http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-6sV0g1pRk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLGjVWuBwI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3QqWKNlcX4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SqKY1IXZQ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUK7rRPp1HU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVeTCJUKBJY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHhZ1EFGblc Enjoy!
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance: FN
Thanks to cerebrally endowed persons like Frederick Noronha , who by acting as the devils advocate help in attenuating men and women, who quite often like Sancho Panza, keep tilting at windmills all the time. Guys who are in love with their own opinions and are loathe to listen and appreciate a different point of view--- a different world view.Guys who being unable to determine their own course want to determine the course of the rivers and the seas, and determine the course for others. To 'demonise' the other is not very difficult , but yes to make an attempt not to willy -nilly be co-opted on one side or the other takes singular quality of mind, maturity and self-abnegation for the sake of a greater GOAL and purpose of living in peace with our neighbour and all communities --whatever their religion might be. Goa, particularly needs this brand of people who truly potray Goan sensitiveness to the other' communities, with their historical legerdemain of being TRANSIENTS in human societies all over the world. The legendary historical and contemporary ability of Goans to become accepted in any community of the world--nay to meld with different cultures , without losing their own ,easily transcends the similar ability of Parsis who came to India from then Persia. Goans are the original Phoenicians of the world and it certainly does not behove Goans who after enjoying voyages of discovery ,settle down in Goa to spit vitriol at co-citizens who might not profess the faith professed by them. Another meaning for the word CATHOLIC is UNIVERSAL!! The mission of the foremost Catholic was Universal and continues to be Universal. Regards, Gerry.
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
In all fairness, Jose should have also asked Floriano for evidence to support the following blood examination conducted by him: QUOTE Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it subdued was the unmitigating 'disciplined' rule of the Portuguese. UNQUOTE Floriano Lobo Goa SuRaj Party If Jose has already done so on Goanet, I apologize for overlooking that post of his on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 7/3/11, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Frederick FN Noronha wrote: 1: If you ask me, the Catholics held the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961. 2: Strangely, Catholics in Goa are perhaps a rare minority that have the arrogance of a majority REQUEST: While I have come to realise (rightly or wrongly) that FN (a well known journalist) has become accustomed to making sweeping statements, which may or may not be based of facts, I make the following request of him: Could you, FN, please provide factual evidence to support the above 2 statements from you? You may wish to include, in your response, any social or anti-social studies you or anyone else may or may not have conducted to study this 'strange' phenomenon. I can only add this: as a simple, average-knowledgeable physician, I know that I could not get away with making sweeping generalization (in the field of medicine) without referring to well tested research papers. Thank you jc
Re: [Goanet] Doubts over Dominique Strauss-Kahn 'victim' raised days after his arrest
Gabe Menezes wrote: Seems like there was a rush to judgment; apparently, according to the NY Post the woman was a part time hooker. COMMENT: Once again, 'we' appear to be missing the important points in cases of molestation. 1: The 'rush to judgment' tag is NOT based on these reported 'unverified claims . that male guests at the Sofitel had paid her for sexual services'. 2: The fact is that the prosecution indeed 'rushed to judgment' without adequately verifying ALL the reasonably ascertainable facts of the case. I believe that even the alleged victim's lawyer - who was IMHO looking for fame and gain, was shocked by the CONTENTS of the reportedly-taped recording of the alleged telephone call made by the lady in question to her contact in Arizona. 3: That is why (I repeat) it is crucial that ALL the facts of any such case are viewed before a judgment call is made. 4: In the US (unlike in the UK), it appears that 'facts' can be selectively leaked in the press. Fortunately, in the US, they also have Miranda rights. 5: I wonder what would have happened if this was a Goa based case. Apart from telephone-calls from 'high up', ghuspott in the evidentiary proceedings, I am almost sure that some brilliant avacado pear and his blogamiga would have carried this story from an unilateral angle - ad nauseam. 6: And Gabe would probably have defended the principle (now prevalent in Goa) which states that a Man has to prove his innocence-If he does not, he is guilty. http://www.colaco.net/1/gca2003.htm please (see s32 in the middle of the page) 7: BTW: Even if she was a hooker - does not mean that any person has the right to commit sexual-battery on her. Except that .the credibility of the WAY her story was initially told .would have taken a beating in court. 8: Once again ..it is important to look at ALL the facts of the case - and not be blinded by avocado pears or blogs. jc
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
[1] Since this is not a court of law but a public mailing list meant for discussions, I obviously do not have any intention to adduce evidence to my comments and opinions. Any reader is free to judge these and see whether the views expressed are reasonable or otherwise, unrealistic or tally (to some extent) with reality. [2] Secondly, quoting and debating part of my views (as done below) might give a wrong impression of my wider argument. I request that my comments be seen in the proper context they were made, that is, the full comment made by me. FN On 3 July 2011 18:58, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: 1: If you ask me, the Catholics held the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961. 2: Strangely, Catholics in Goa are perhaps a rare minority that have the arrogance of a majority REQUEST: While I have come to realise (rightly or wrongly) that FN (a well known journalist) has become accustomed to making sweeping statements, which may or may not be based of facts, I make the following request of him: Could you, FN, please provide factual evidence to support the above 2 statements from you? You may wish to include, in your response, any social or anti-social studies you or anyone else may or may not have conducted to study this 'strange' phenomenon. I can only add this: as a simple, average-knowledgeable physician, I know that I could not get away with making sweeping generalization (in the field of medicine) without referring to well tested research papers.
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
I will assume from FN's pathetic response (infra) that his categorical statement that 'Catholics HELD the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961' was based on GAS. How does he know that? Was he a neonatal genius to come to that conclusion? jc 2011/7/3 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com [1] Since this is not a court of law but a public mailing list meant for discussions, I obviously do not have any intention to adduce evidence to my comments and opinions. Any reader is free to judge these and see whether the views expressed are reasonable or otherwise, unrealistic or tally (to some extent) with reality. [2] Secondly, quoting and debating part of my views (as done below) might give a wrong impression of my wider argument. I request that my comments be seen in the proper context they were made, that is, the full comment made by me. FN On 3 July 2011 18:58, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: 1: If you ask me, the Catholics held the arrogance of we-share-the-rulers'-religion biases and more till 1961. 2: Strangely, Catholics in Goa are perhaps a rare minority that have the arrogance of a majority REQUEST: While I have come to realise (rightly or wrongly) that FN (a well known journalist) has become accustomed to making sweeping statements, which may or may not be based of facts, I make the following request of him: Could you, FN, please provide factual evidence to support the above 2 statements from you? You may wish to include, in your response, any social or anti-social studies you or anyone else may or may not have conducted to study this 'strange' phenomenon. I can only add this: as a simple, average-knowledgeable physician, I know that I could not get away with making sweeping generalization (in the field of medicine) without referring to well tested research papers.
[Goanet] Tarun Vijay of BJP: Needs to be congratulated
Mr Tarun Vijay of the BJP needs to be congratulated for so candidly and fervently displaying before Goans and the world his utter lack of reality and perspective of world history. Any person who does not comprehend that over centuries the world has formed and reformed itself into Nations is as lucid as an imbecile child holding a carrot. Nations have come and gone, have formed and dissappeared without leaving much of a trace. Contemporarily, India changed its boundaries in 1947 and Pakistan was born whilst in 1971 the Congress led by Mrs Indira Gandhi changed the boundaries of Pakistan and played mid-wife to the formation of Bangladesh. The Constitution of India accepts the conceptual idea that territories can be accquired or lost through the operation of circumstances in human history. Accordingly through the Police action in Hyderabad and under the threat of similar action, the Princely States thought it fit to join the Union of India to foreclose such similar action. In 1961, Goa was liberated(accquired) and became an integral part of India, whist in 1962 China changed the boundaries of India through the Sino-India war. It accquired Aksai Chin and still continues to retain it and other large swathes of India. The Pakistanis too changed the borders of India and continue to occupy territory in Kashmir referring to its occupation as Azad Kashmir. Is it not amply clear then the concept of contemporary foreigness is a concept having as much chance of survival as an ice cube in Hell. Mr Mohammed Ali Jinnah,then an Indian citizen, as a Member of the Sandhurst Commission was instrumental in the setting up of the INDIAN MILITARY ACADEMY ,which has been the nursery for leadership talent of both India pakistan. Yes , a number of Pakistani military leaders learnt their leaderships lessons at the IMA, just as the Indian military leadership ,but owing to different contexts applied those lessons differently. When the thoughtless Tarun Vijay talks about the foreign origins of the Congress he is correct ,quite similar to the foreign origins of the BJP. the BJP has thrown up leaders who have been foreign' in origin -- take Mr Lal Krishna Advani as a leading example. This person was born inKarachi in Pakistan quite similar to Mr Manmohan Singh, our curent Prime Minister being born in Punjab in Pakistan. Similary General Parvez Musharraf the erstwhile President of India was born in Old Delhi in India. Again Goans prior to 1951 were Portuguese citizens. Quite a number of Goans opted for Portuguese nationality and left India after 19th December 1961. Others remained back and became citizens of India. Mr. Tarun Vijay must grow up and realise that it is Citizenship and not origin that is the basis of the Constitution of India. Were General Parvez Musharraff to cite his origins and seek Indian citizenship, and if he were to be granted Indian citizenship ,he would be as eligible as any other Indian citizen under the Constitution of India, to become Prime Minister of India, quite similary if Mr Lal Krishna Advani were to cite his Pakistani origins and seek Pakistani citizenship so as to become Prime Minister of Pakistan. The same would also apply to Dr Manmohan Singh were he to cite his Pakistani origins and seek Pakistani citizenship so as to return to the villade of his birth. Mr Tarun Vijay does a great national disservice when he casts a slur on citizens of India not born in India. By that token a number of Goans are tarred by the same brush and their patriotism or should it be called matriotism, since India is referred to as Mother,is called into unneccessary question. The Armed Forces of India would be loathe to entertain the quixotic ideas of Mr Tarun Vijay as by this token a slur would be cast on the integrity of some of the following Regiments of the Indian Army viz., the Gorkha Regiment a substantial number of whose troops hail from Nepal, The Jat Regiment, Indians who trace their origins to the Scythians and Partians,the Jammu Kashmir Light Infantry some of whose troops hail from Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, The Punjab Regiment, some of whose troops were born in Pakistan,the Assam Regiment, some of whose troops were born in Pakistan and Bangladesh, the Rajput Regiment, some of the ancestors of these troops being born in Pakistan, the Border Scouts,some of the ancestors of these troops being born in China and Burma. It is imperative that Tarun Vijay of the BJP needs to introspect about the history,culture and traditions of our country before he flies by the seat of his pants and continues to allow himself not to be treated for the malaise of oral dysentry to which he has wittingly become victim. Cant resist affirming that Mr Tarun Vijay comes across as MILK TRYING TO MASQUERADE AS SEASONED WINE LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA, THAT IS BHARAT! Regards, Gerry
Re: [Goanet] MUSIC: Boney Alex releases Tuzo Uggdas
thank you ! for this article. cd's available in leading stores. Please contact me for if you need one in bangalore On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Goanet A-C-E! goa...@goanet.org wrote: Boney began working on Tuzo Uggdas since January 2011. The entire project was self-funded. The Album was released on July 1, 2011 at the Santa Cruz church hall in the presence of the local MLA, the director of the film, O Maria and a crowd of about 250 people. A brief about Boney Alex: Boney started learning music when he was about 10 years old. Since then his first love has always been music. With his dedication to learning and playing music he has now turned into one of Goa's best guitarist. Of course not many can play distortion at the age of 15. He plays for Band India. About the music: The music Boney has composed for the album is unique in its own flavour. It is a mix of rap, western classical, indian classical. Links: http://www.facebook.com/**BoneyAlex http://www.facebook.com/BoneyAlex http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Ifqd3n9Hodshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifqd3n9Hods Source: Naresh Shetti - http://nimagemaker.wordpress.**com/http://nimagemaker.wordpress.com/ Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment -- Regards *Naresh Shetti* *Creative Director - Design Photography* *+91 98235 89155 (Goa)* *+91 98867 52618 **(Bangalore)* *www.nlights.me*
Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British!
I. Nunes responds: Nothing of the kind. I was simply clarifying your fetal misapprehensions. I am not the morality police nor a gas bag pontificate bent on imposing my conception of 'rightness' on others. Very colonial you know: the I-know-what-is-good-for-you. Chacun a son gout! Vive la difference! On Sat, 7/2/11, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au Lyrawmn? Hmmm? So you mean you are happy to live with this, because in China it is worse? Where is your conscience gone man? In China there is no Ban on Cow Slaughter, No full democracy, no false gods either! The proper thing to do, is to give a 'lead' in reform and then show the world, China included, that, this is the proper way. It Has To Be! Nascy Caldeira From: lyrawmn lyra...@yahoo.com To: Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au; estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British! Dear Nascy Caldeira: ' foetus-icide' is referred to as abortion. Sex selected (or other genetic traits ) determined while in utero, and deemed unwanted. Infanticide is killing infants, male or female after birth. Both occur/occurred in China, as in countries where women are marginalised. best I. Nunes. --- On Sat, 7/2/11, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British! To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 1:55 AM Dear Dr Jose, and all goanetters, Actually meant to write: 'female foetus-icide' instead of infanticide. But realised my silly mistake after posting it. Just wanted to say that this anti female norms now and in the old days, in Indian Culture, is deep rooted in the Indian Psyche! Hence the practice of Sati and female foetus-icide. Both these evil practices are connected, in this cultural scene, and one is worse than another. These type of people are only about so called/percieved 'economic' benefit; no humanitarian ethics is processed here; and the outcomes are cruel and criminal, even in Common Law. India does not know?? that women are an asset and how to use this human resource, to advantage, like in the progressive world? Or so it seems and there are no programs to emphasize this and to teach and spread the good message. And then again they still want to go learn from primitive sources instead of from advanced progressive places. Would this be Anti Indian sentiment or Denationalising, I WONDER! I would not want to be such a national, for sure and have a criminal conscience. Hoorah to the Enlightened! Nascy Caldeira From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com To: Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British! Nascy Caldeira wrote: Let the Chinese in! They will certainly eradicate..idiosyncracies, like female infanticide, RESPONSE: Baba Nascy, It is possible that you too need to read a wee bit more and then post a correction. BTW: You may also have mis-comprehended the term 'INFANT' and confused it with the term 'FOETUS' jc Not from Oxford
Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British!
Dr. Helekar, I am curious. Is not your referenced M:F ratio derived from live births? Therefore there would be no way in India especially of knowing how many female fetuses were sex selected for abortion. Sex determination ultrasound scans are widely available in major Indian cities. I assume similar availability of tests in China in view of her 1 child population control measure. The population 2010 (in billions) for China is 1.3, India 1.2, the World 6.7. Immoral policies of China you say? I am not so sure. India and China combined account for ~40% of the world's population today. best I. Nunes - On Sat, 7/2/11, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Sane and rational Goanetters would have learned to ignore crackpot nascimental nonsense by now. But let me point out that as far as both female infanticide and female foeticide are concerned, China is worse than India. The immoral policies of its communist government have caused the male to female ratio of China to grow to 1.21, i.e. there are 120 boys for every 100 girls at present. The corresponding ratio in India is 1.08
[Goanet] Goa news for July 4, 2011
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa: Film on Scarlet shot without permission, authorities say - IBNLive.com NLive.comPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHxhgMyaSCZreDTA91NyB3Ow6hbTwurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-film-on-scarlet-shot-without-permission-authorities-say/746755.html *** Sewage pollution warning hits Goa - Scotland on Sunday among the most popular in India - are unfit for swimming and fishing because of high-levels of sewage, scientists have warned. They found dangerous levels of faecal coliform bacteria in coastal and river waters, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHVbrnbxpqy-oK6S-F8z6wjqxzP9wurl=http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/world/Sewage-pollution-warning-hits-Goa.6795003.jp *** NCP reiterates its demand for roll back of MoI decision - Times of India harge ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFVlHvVbn-5pw5MH0rJqMlgLo4Hzgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/NCP-reiterates-its-demand-for-roll-back-of-MoI-decision/articleshow/9080419.cms *** Saif, Abhay In Battle Of The Zombies - NDTV.com oms - Saif Ali Khan-produced Go Goa Gone and Abhay Deol-starrer Shaadi of the Dead - are set to go on floor at the same time. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEGYkNot_PXY-qSY2EEkI5wPHmorgurl=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20110179140keyword=bollywoodsubcatg=MOVIESINDIAnid=116324 *** Goa new home for tigers - Hindustan Times tracking wild tigers. Over 35 tigers have been found residing in Mhadei Wildlife Sanctuary in north Goa, about 60 to 90 kms from hot tourism hotspot beaches such as Anjum, Bombolin and Colva. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGfffcPXCMp249DX32y-bVaNvF4UQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Goa-new-home-for-tigers/Article1-716511.aspx *** Keeping Goan culture alive - Gulf Times IM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFyqq8DPIVi4ImR-hizaCTEuyHC3Aurl=http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=444825version=1template_id=36parent_id=16 *** Goa: Radio Mirchi Turns up the Heat during Monsoon! - Mangalorean.com ngalorean.comGoa, Jul 3: The Radio Mirchi World Environment Day Drawing Competition recently held in association with Goa Handicrafts Rural and Small Scale Industries Development Corporation was a grand success. The event began with a bang in the GTDC Residency, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE6Ea0OZD6AKxniSMi5Se2ImE8IwQurl=http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=248911 *** Big cats find a new home #148; Goa's Mhadei sanctuary - Hindustan Times ndustan TimesYour leisure trip to Goa will soon have an added advantage #148; tracking wild tigers. Over 35 tigers have been found residing in Mhadei Wildlife Sanctuary in north Goa, about 60 to 90 kms from hot tourism hot spot beaches such as Anjum, Bombolin and ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHZ64JBIulxUZFViq8_Akk1BSaLdQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Big-cats-find-a-new-home-Goa-s-Mhadei-sanctuary/Article1-716511.aspx *** Saif, Abhay to star in zombie comedies - Hindustan Times oms #148; the Saif Ali Khan-produced Go Goa Gone and the Abhay Deol-starrer Shaadi of the Dead - are set to go on floor at the same time. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGtuJD8F3-E9FTy6l8vbzXljZH_8Aurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Saif-Abhay-to-star-in-zombie-comedies/Article1-716802.aspx *** Crime branch forwards complaint to South Goa SP - Times of India pz7GM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFpOacdKxWGUHK3R9fsaPd_ZJrGvwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Crime-branch-forwards-complaint-to-South-Goa-SP/articleshow/9080445.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] Selárdalur
Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'Selárdalur' The Westfjords - Vestfirðir - region is the most affective landscape in all of Iceland, with a power to seize and move the soul like perhaps only the best of Indian classical music can. Towering flat-topped mountains define its fjords and give the area its topographical signature. But such supreme beauty also exacts [...] You may view the latest post at http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2011/07/04/selardalur/ Best regards, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com
[Goanet] Some new Konkani VCD films for June 2011
Some new Konkani VCD films for June 2011 DVD. No 373 BOGLANTT by DAS 1975 b/w Konkani Film With Alfred Rose , Rita Rose, Prem Kumar, Betty Naz, Seby Coutinho, Ophelia, Joe Rose,Paul Romy etc etc Rs.299 May 2011 http://joegoauk.blogspot.com/2011/07/1975-film-boglantt-now-officially.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr8/5894077669/ VCD No. 374 MR BABURAO by Com. Michael With Com Michael, Humbert, Com. Marcus, Ben Evangelisto, Com Succor, Baba Cielo, etc Rs.150 June/2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr8/5878627642/ VCD No. 375 OSTOREANK SANGAT by Janet Filipe Almeida With Janet, Filipe, Com. Selvy, Com Ambe, Antonete de Calangute, Com Seby, Tony de Ribandar, Baba Cielo etc Rs.150 June/2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr8/5893946829/ VCD No. 376 DON DISANCHO SOUNSAR by AGostinho de Ambaulim With Lawry, Com. Ben Evangelisto, Com. Selvy, Connie Ferns, Rosy Alvares, Seby, AGostinho, Lesly, F X Cardozo, Rosalina, Allan etc Rs.150 June/2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr8/5894516124/ VCD No: 377 JAPANA TSUNAMI by Clemente Rodrigues WithCom Janet, Com Ambe, Com Selvy, Francis de Tuem, Marcus Vaz, Agnelo da Costa, Clemente Rodrigues, Rosalin Vaz etc Rs.150 June/2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr8/5894513244/ for complete list from 2003 onwards http://joegoauk-konkani-tiatr-vcds-films.blogspot.com/2011/05/konkani-vcds-produced-so-far-complete.html for June 2011 http://joegoauk-konkani-tiatr-vcds-films.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-konkani-vcds-for-june-2011.html Note: Missed on 'zagor' or jaagor' film DVD as the same was not available at most popular places in Margao. A film by Fatorda MLA Damu Naik. Will include in July. DVD released about a week ago joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
As the learned doctors should know, Phlebotomy is a different department :-) FN On 3 July 2011 21:21, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: In all fairness, Jose should have also asked Floriano for evidence to support the following blood examination conducted by him: QUOTE Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it subdued was the unmitigating 'disciplined' rule of the Portuguese.
Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British!
Mr. Nunes, The male:female ratio I have given is for the population as a whole, as far as I know, not at birth or at any particular age. The greater lopsidedness of the male:female ratio in China indicates greater sex selection in abortions and infanticides. This problem has afflicted many countries, including South Korea and Japan, in addition to China and India. China's one child policy is immoral. India banned sex determination by ultrasound in 1994. China did not ban it until 2004, after more than 40 million female babies were determined to have been lost. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 7/3/11, lyrawmn lyra...@yahoo.com wrote: Dr. Helekar, I am curious. Is not your referenced M:F ratio derived from live births? Therefore there would be no way in India especially of knowing how many female fetuses were sex selected for abortion. Sex determination ultrasound scans are widely available in major Indian cities. I assume similar availability of tests in China in view of her 1 child population control measure. The population 2010 (in billions) for China is 1.3, India 1.2, the World 6.7. Immoral policies of China you say? I am not so sure. India and China combined account for ~40% of the world's population today. best I. Nunes
[Goanet] Wide roads cannot minimise accidents
(Another Letter To Herald Editor sent on 2/7/2011 that may never be published) The blame for the rise in road accidents along the National Highway at Porvorim must entirely rest on the TCP, Collector and local Village Panchayats which have been mindlessly permitting an increase in the population density by abetting the construction of huge housing complexes and commercial hubs in close proximity to the NH. The NH17 has been punctured every few metres and citizens are compelled to use their private vehicles due to poor bus service. The NH service lanes have become a car park with more and more showrooms and service stations being set up. Parallel roads of 10 metres which were earlier notified on both sides of the NH were gradually denotified to facilitate builders. Coupled with all this is the reckless driving with absolutely no respect for basic road rules. -Soter D'Souza Socorro
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (4Jul11)
We Want English WE Want Marathi We Want Konkani ...actually we would like English too...but some Politicians? But we'll answer them at the Elections! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Daily Grook #987
DAILY GROOK #987 = SENSE DEFENSE = by Francis Rodrigues i'm deaf and dumb from birth to today, yet it's no problem i hear myself say! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910
Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?
I will let sober and rational people in this forum decide what kind of communal seeds were sown by whom in which family, and also who is spreading misinformation here. But if someone wants to read about communal policies of the Portuguese government, and communalism among the Hindus and Catholics during the 451 years of Portuguese rule, and in the early sixties, then here are some references that I have read on this subject: Flight of the Deities: Hindu Resistance in Portuguese Goa Authors: Paul Axelrod; Michelle A. Fuerch Modern Asian Studies, Vol. 30, No. 2. (May, 1996), pp. 387-421. Goa: The Transformation of an Indian Region Author(s): Robert S. Newman Source: Pacific Affairs, Vol. 57, No. 3 (Autumn, 1984), pp. 429-449 Published Goan Intellectuals and Goan Identity: An Unresolved Conflict Author(s): Pramod Kale Source: Economic and Political Weekly, Vol. 29, No. 16/17 (Apr. 16-23, 1994), pp. 909-911 The General Elections in Goa Author(s): Ram Joshi Asian Survey, Vol. 4, No. 10. (Oct., 1964), pp. 1093-1101. I would be happy to provide PDF copies of these articles if anyone wants to read them. Cheers, Santosh Ferdinando Falcao wrote: RESPONSE : Santosh would do more justice to this blind comment of his if he could provide reference to any communal violence having occurred in Goa during the Portuguese regime, instead of dragging his parents and grand parents as source of his knowledge. An educated person quotes from knowledge he has obtained from recorded history as I produced in my previous post. If family sources are quoted as source of such misinformation it makes the information biased and tends to make one believe that communal seeds were really sowed in some families.
