[Goanet-News] GoaOldPhoto: Nehru in Margao, schoolgirls of the 1960s in Mapusa, Konkani rally, college days, Reita Faria in Africa, backing the Black African cause...
Nehru in Goa, 1962/63, at Clube Harmonia de Margao Photo from the collection of the late Francisco Filomeno Figueiredo, an avid photographer, taken sometime in 1962/63 when Nehru visited Goa with Indira. They were taken in the Clube Harmonia de Margao. Photo received via Gilbert Menezes. Released under the Creative Commons 3.0 attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license. Some rights reserved. Conditions for non-commercial reuse: creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ Please strictly follow the terms for reuse of the photo, including attribution. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008835/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008817/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008831/in/photostream [with Indira Gandhi] Schoolgirls from the 1960s... St Mary's Convent, Mapusa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810936193/in/set-72157629154727531 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810932597/in/set-72157629154727531 Konkani rally at Azad Maidan, 1986. Photo by Lui Godinho http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810937429/in/set-72157629154727531 College days, 1970s. St Xavier's College, Mapusa Including Fr Nicolau Pereira (Pop) and Fr Ivo de Mascarenhas (Vice Pop) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810920131/in/set-72157629154727531 Girl-guides, 1970s, Lourdes Convent, Saligao http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810851937/in/set-72157629154727531 Reita Faria in Africa, 1960s. Probably Entebbe Airport. From the collection of Luis Assis Correia. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5485972991/in/set-72157629154727531 A Goan supporter of the Black African cause -- Aquino Braganca in the bush, probably during the Mozbiquan or Angolan independence wars. From the collection of Silvia Braganca. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/3406904152/in/set-72157629154727531 Temple tank, Ponda. During the 'Protect Waters, Protect Life' march, mid 1980s, locally organised by Matanhy Saldanha and others. Photo from the collection of FN. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810908849/in/set-72157629154727531 Birds of a feather... politicians in different times. At the old Secretariat, Panjim. Probably late 1980s. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810912233/in/set-72157629154727531 Gambling 'matka' sheets. Recent image. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810913041/in/set-72157629154727531 FOOTNOTE: Don't leave your old memories to white ants and time-fuelled deterioration. Scan a few and email them to me to share with the world! All images are welcome, specially (but not restricted to) those over 50 years old. -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Books from Goa,1556 http://scr.bi/Goa1556Books Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet-News] Goa news for February 16, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** ECI promises a viva carnival, after all - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: In a major relief to the Goa tourism industry, the Election Commission of India (ECI) on Wednesday gave its green signal to the carnival parades in the state with conditions which included a total ban on the participation or patronization of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEewOfbLK-7mP4nfOYdYh9dF6ihGQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/ECI-promises-a-viva-carnival-after-all/articleshow/11907021.cms *** Rane violated Code: JD (U) - Times of India tny5rtX0Cw http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGGHwofrUZqsgM5iiqG2H51nPQSPgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Rane-violated-Code-JD-U/articleshow/11906925.cms *** Five Sesa Goa trucks collapse from truss bridge - IBNLive.com NLive.comPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNElM5nPq6me-tyWkhqPgeBNhgcOMAurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/five-sesa-goa-trucks-collapse-from-truss-bridge/964062.html *** Goa illegal mining scam worth $423 million: TMC - IBNLive.com JZFS5A6tlOrnZ5VOtFkYzA http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHkuzoNs1bb6z15MJWRl0Z4PcNi7wurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/goa-illegal-mining-scam-worth-423-million-tmc/230603-37-64.html *** Goa: Excise licenses of 14 bars, including Curlies, suspended - IBNLive.com epartment-suspends-14-licences/articleshow/11906997.cmsExcise department suspends 14 licences http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGQ1knGPgy6h-sLWdFyHCrvSB1f2wurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-excise-licenses-of-14-bars-including-curlies-suspended/964024.html *** Review of the Grand Hyatt Goa - Hindu Business Line and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEaDmi0Qx-pq2qzrQFCXet_LOHiTgurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/smartbuy/luxury-and-fashion/article2892523.ece?homepage=trueref=wl_home *** Blackmore deems GOA Sports Administrators Course a success - Stabroek News abroek NewsSome 16 officials from various sporting disciplines graduated from the 13th annual GOA Sports Administration Course ¦.. The Comments section is intended to provide a forum for reasoned and reasonable debate on the newspaper's content and is an ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHsRMJxlRY98zUryoRYqAUKw0uTHwurl=http://www.stabroeknews.com/2012/sports/02/15/blackmore-deems-goa-sports-administrators-course-a-success/ *** 'Plenty of time for rebels to quit' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa Pradesh Congress Committee working president Francisco Sardinha said that some Congress rebels have started withdrawing their nominations as independent candidates and there is still time for others to do the same. Speaking to mediapersons ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH3REWzLht_TCKyT-gF4M19nnJLLQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Plenty-of-time-for-rebels-to-quit/articleshow/11906864.cms *** Development spotlight: Radisson Blu Goa - Hotel News Now ack beach town. The 132-room Radisson Blu Resort Goa Cavelossim Beach is typical of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGIhgbTrjFd-8lstYHYtfXYheguwwurl=http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Articles.aspx/7539/Development-spotlight-Radisson-Blu-Goa *** Now, Churchill defends Cong's 'family raj' policy - Times of India ssue even as he exuded confidence that all four will make it to the Goa legislative assembly. The political system of this country is ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEvz7Tj1Dr6fzyMtWvmZhmJtJfNRwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Now-Churchill-defends-Congs-family-raj-policy/articleshow/11906912.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Dear Geraldo, Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However, it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen. They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them. The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka, Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this is what you wish for, so be it. I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am giving below for a better understanding: http://www.frontlineonnet.com/ Regards, Marshall Geraldo Oliveira With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] candidates
The press release from the EC says 62 Congress candidates, 54 BJP candidates... It is obvious that there are more Congressmen in some constituencies than the official one. Ditto for BJP. I am not sure if under the law a party can allow its non-official candidates to use the official symbol or if the EC allows more than one candidate under the same party and on the same symbol in one constituency. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Saint Mary's Goan Community Dubai Youth Meeting - 17th Feb 2012
Youth Meeting Youth Meeting is being held on the 3rd Friday of the month. at St. Mary's Church, Room No. 1 Above Mini Hall between 18:00 hrs to 19:00 hrs Kindly note that the Youth has to assist in all areas so please participate. We need you :-) . Goan Community Youth Meeting Yearly Schedule Month DateRoom no.TimeRemarks February17.02.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 March 16.03.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 April 20.04.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 May 18.05.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 June15.06.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 July20.07.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 August 17.08.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 September 21.09.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 October 19.10.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 November16.11.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 December28.12.2012 Room 4 18:00 – 19:00 Room 1 not available due to family feast preparations. General Body Meeting Please note the changes. SMGC GENERAL BODY MEETING will no longer be held on 1st Friday of the month. From February 2012, SMGC General Body Meeting will be held every 2nd Friday of each month in Room No. 1 above Mini Hall from 6.00 PM to 7.00 PM Your presence for this meeting would be greatly appreciated. Goan Community General Body Meeting Yearly Schedule Month DateRoom No.Time February10.02.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 March 09.03.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 April 13.04.2012 Room 1 19:00 – 19:00 May 11.05.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 June08.06.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 July13.07.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 August 10.08.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 September 14.09.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 October 12.10.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 November09.11.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 December09.12.2012 Room 1 18:00 – 19:00 Konkani Mass For all Konkani Speaking Community residing in UAE please note that. Konkani mass is being celebrated on the 4th Thursday of the month. So please participate. Easter Ball 2012 In April - Date,Time,Venue,etc to be announced soon... Facebook Page Don't forget us to Like us and support our Facebook Fan page at : http://www.facebook.com/GoanCommunityDubai We also have a Facebook group created so join in ...Cheers http://www.facebook.com/groups/GoanCommunityDubai/ --- You are subscribed to :Goan Community using the following email:goanet@lists.goanet.org To unsubscribe go here:http://www.goancommunity.com/dadamail/mail.cgi/u/gsm/goanet/lists.goanet.org/ For any queries please contact:mailto:ad...@goancommunity.com Please visit us at : http://goancommunity.com Mailing List Powered by Dada Mail http://www.goancommunity.com/dadamail/mail.cgi/what_is_dada_mail/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Junior Rane
The practice of family politics in Goa found strong endorsement from health minister Vishwajit Rane, who stated that the 'family' aspirants are from dominant political families and are efficient, educated and capable. Mr Rane, if so why political efficient, educated people like you have greed and destroyed the beauty and peace from Goa? Families are not efficient and are not for developement of Goa but to loot Goa. That why I tell all my brother and sisters in Goa not to Vote and bring the same Goverment to power. Regards Peter Fernandes --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Its Election time in Goa
Dear Vivian, If our people (read concerned voters) did not salivate at the mention of a free drink, a free lunch or the gift packets during or before elections, GOA would not be in doldrums as it finds itself today. I often repeat this incident which happened with me during my 2007 campaign in Aldona. An ex-officer of the Indian Airlines had this to say when I asked him to vote for me. Every election I see that people get sarees, cooking utensils, sugar, rice, cooking oil what not. But no body has given me anything at any time. This time I shall vote for anyone who even gives me a plactic water bucket To this, my prompt response was: TH TUJER Incidentally, GRA-GSRP has two candidates in fray in these elections. Julius Pereira in Aldona and Annabelle Pereira in Taleigao. (Not related) The above two organizations do not allow it's canditates to spend from their pockets. Julius' deposit of Rs. 10,000/- has been paid from the donations to GRA and from the sale of GRA's Lottery tickets (draw in May, 2012 with a racer 21 geared bike worth Rs. 11,000/- as third prize; Front loading LG automatic washing machine worth Rs. 25,000/- as the second prize and Flat screen LED 21 TV worth Rs. 36,000/- as the first prize). 30,000 coupons have been printed, each worth Rs. 20/- and expect to raise about Rs. 5 lacs after deductions. These donation coupons aka raffles are meant to finance the moderate election expenses of the candidates. Books of 20 coupons each are available and we appeal to conscious citizens of GOA to help us with these. Just to let you know and hoping that you will contribute thro' sponsoring any one of the prizes or under-writing the books of 20's. With due appreciation of the above advisory. Best regards floriano GRA-GSRP 9890470896 www.gragoa.com www.goasu-raj.org PS 1: The racer bike has been sponsored to the tune of 275 books by one of our Kuwait Patrons who is currently in Goa and who wants to remain annonymous. PS 2: Another Kuwait Patron who is also in Goa for 'Valentine' is contemplating the sponsor of any one of the other prizes and should finalize within a couple of days. PS3: Kuwait Goans seem to be more concerned for their Goa than the rest, as another Kuwait Goan and his friends there are collecting a kitty to sponsor one or other of the prizes. PS4: It gives us a great satisfaction to know that there are Goans who believe in our work for Goa and for the betterment of Goans. Cheers - Original Message - From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:26 PM Subject: [Goanet] Its Election time in Goa At Christmas in the years 2010 and 2011, a gentleman claiming to be just a do-gooder, came by our residence witha bag full of goodies, which included Basmati rice, coconuts, jaggery, sugar etc. etc. I declined the gift each time, because I had a suspician that it had to do with Buying votes even though in December 2010 elections were not on the horizon. When I asked the generous gentleman, why the gift ? He responded that his Trust was spreading good cheer, giving the goodies to those of the Hindu faith at Ganesh Chathurti and Christians at Christmas. Since I believe that there is no such thing as a free lunch, I politely declined to accept his gift. My neighbors greedily accepted their gifts. 14 months later we find that the do gooder bearing gifts is standing for election, and today with a large entourage he was gong door to door to ask people to vote for him. He did not come to my house. I told my neighbors in December 2010 to be careful, as this person was just softening them up to vote for him even though he was not known as a politician at that time. Everything I told my neighbors has come true. Here is a blatant attempt to buy votes, though it happened long before the model code of conduct came into effect. Such is the state of affairs in Goa. In the press we hear about Police Flying squad searching cars for large sums of money or cases of liquor presumably to be used to buy votes. In Porvorim constituency alone there are 7 or 8 parties in the fray. Wow ! So many public spirited individuals seeking election so that they can serve the polulace at large ! If one believes that, one needs to have their heads examined. This is election - Goa style ! --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Vishwajit's wish
Vishwajit Rane said that he wishes to develop the Anjuna-Vagator coastal area with tourism-related infrastructure. If he means setting up new hotels, then he would be creating another Calangute. Even the once-pristine beaches of Morjim and Palolem are now overrun by structures, big and small, and they, along with coastal areas in Bardez and Salcette provide enough scope for tourists. Further concretization of the remaining coastal areas would be detrimental to Goa's ecology. Making promises to Siolim voters is one thing but to get the plans into action is another. Will the voters in this constituency take Vishwajit's words at face-value or just ignore as election promises? Candidates are making all of of promises and giving all sort of assurances. Only the gullible voters will be taken in by them. Voters must check with what the elected candidates said during the last election and how much they accomplished in their term as MLAs. If they have accomplished even 50 per cent it is commendable. Anjuna-Vagator came into global limelight in the 60s and if the successive governments wanted to develop it in a bigger way they should have done it instead of thinking of it now. The Anjuna-Vagator belt has been overshadowed by other costal ares. If the tourist inflow increase dramatically this year and next with no hotel rooms available to meet the demands, then the incoming government can take a look at exploring Anjuna-Vagator. Till then, let the area remain what it is, underdeveloped and unburdened. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Hello Sir
Ref:PRESS CONFERENCE OF SHANTARAM NAIK Just a few lines. I love my Goa because I was born in Goa, I once loved Congress Party because it was a good party, but past few years it is not the same and the faces which Congress refielded are only to do more and more corruption in Goa. Why don't you have fielded some new faces and then passed remarks against Parikkar? For all these years what good did Congress do to Goa? What did Congress do to solve the Garbage issue? What did Congress do to solve the Mining Issue? Congress is fully on the list of Corruption in Goa and nothing else. Why do Congress go into corruption and make money, to save Congress Party at centre? Shame upon all of you. I am not a big guy like you, but still I tell my Goan brothers and sisters not to Vote and bring the same Goverment to power. We want to say AMEN to Congress Goverment. Thanks, Regards Peter Fernandes --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The TN example
Tamil Nadu CM Vijaylalitha has begun her avengefuj ride by getting the state's anti-corruption branch to read the former education minister for amassing wealth disproportionate to his income. Having suffered greatly under the DMK, the newly-elected AIDMK is now teaching the members of her predecessaor government some tough lessons. She has already shed the weight of her aide, Sashikala, who was her faithful friend for years on the belief that Sashikala was extorting money from businessmen. Coming back to power, Jaya is now in total command. She fears no one, and cares a damn for her political opponents. One may well ask how Jayalalitha herself came to own so much wealth? In case Goa sees the coming to power of BJP will it also launch raids on former Congress ministers and MLAs? The Monserrate case has got wild publicity but there are other cases that have remained under cover. It is not shocking to read that more than 55 percent of the MLAs are crorepatis and also to learn that since the Congress came into power many of the ministers, including the CM, have shown a dramatic increase in the net worth. Babush Monserrate may be the sole victim for now but till he is charge-sheeted and taken to court the case will remain on paper. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Hindu : News / National : India set for record food grain harvest: Manmohan
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Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF
From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com 2. I went through the article in question. Nowhere does it point out any flaw in the Hindu religion. I quote from the article- A devadasis who discovers a relationship with Christ becomes a powerful witness in her community, according to one Christian worker. These new lives in Christ become witnesses against the practice that enslaved them and for the Savior who set them free. --- The above statement implies that this prostitution/enslavement is part of the Hindu practice while the path through christianity offers them salvation. Conclusion: hinduism is inferior, christianity is superior. If Nasci had a little more finesse in his writing ability, he would make a perfect reporter for the CSF. From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com 3. Further, Sandesh's response was against the Church and conversion and not against the CSF as Santosh would like to mislead us. I quote Sandesh 'in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)...'. Unfortunately, the false propaganda unleashed by the hindutva forces has taken root in the minds of ordinary people like Sandesh. The word conversion has been somehow given a negative meaning. Proselytising is done by all religions and even atheists. Has anyone seen the Hare Rama, Hare Krishna worshippers. I have seen them in Bombay, Poona, Delhi and even in Russia where they dance and pray in public and distribute their literature. change. -- I would agree with this. Bans on proselytizing as are currently in place in India, are just another intrusion by the government into the lives of its citizens. The right of constituents of one religion to propagate their favored religion, and their right to demonize competitor religions (as this article subtly does) should be sacrosanct. Religions, can often be equated to commercial enterprises that are out to capture market share using various marketing tools/propaganda at their disposal. If Tata can be allowed to compete with Maruti, why should not christianty not be allowed to compete with hinduism? So long as violence is not used to espouse one's point of view, I see no problem with it. Alternatively, there are many (the majority?) within their respective religious communities that do not seek to impose their belief system on their competitors and primarily undertake actions to benefit society as a whole. It seems like the CSF is part of the former category, but it is wrong for Sandesh to assume that the church as a whole and presumably christians in general share that attitude. Marlon --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
Sandesh Anvekar wrote: They cant tolerate a word of criticism...I 'd rather expected that someone would give some sane advise to mr floriano over his unbridled criticism of hindu gods which was totally unasked for here...(that only reflects poorly on him I could have answered him in his own language, but that's not something befitting a proud Hindu). instead they are busy trying to associate me with fundamentalist groups and commenting on my english langauge. As for me.. I have never said that Christian people make me feel insecure... nor is the question of disbelief in Christian religion - I've been on this forum for about six years and this is the first time I've come across Sandesh Anvekar's posts. For the first time to be an attack on the Church does not bode well. Sandesh, who professes to have a little more knowledge than a kindergarten child, should know in Christianity the Church is synonymous with its religion. It sees no distinction. Hence an attack on the Church is very similar to unbridled criticism of Hindu Gods. But criticizing each other's Gods and religions means nothing to me. Rama, Jesus, Mohammed, Superman and Santa Claus are all same-same to me. What I find subversive is the continuous and incessant propaganda machine which is unleashed in India. First of all, the Church in India is least bothered about converting people. Perhaps Sandesh can give us statistics on how many Hindus have been converted in all of Bombay's leading colleges run by Christians. Surely, a place of learning would be prime opportunity for influencing the mind. Alas, more Hindus avail of Christian-run education then all of the Christian world put together. Secondly, if at all proselytizing does occur in India, it is likely to be by a splinter evangelical-styled missionary group. But the point is, which Marshall makes adequately, proselytizing isn't the same as forcing people to convert. The term forced conversions implies that an organisation has political state sanction whereby it can exert power. Christians of India have none. So if people are converting that speaks to their desperation and desire to attain some sort of salvation, whether spiritual or economic. But in a democracy, that is an individual's choice and no one has the right to take away that choice. Lastly, as to the point that I am over-reacting, I don't think so. To believe that India is somehow a mature, functioning democracy in my opinion is a highly optimistic point of view. We are anything but a secular, liberal society. We are at best two shades lighter than conservative theocracies with ever shrinking space in the domain of individual and collective freedoms. Furthermore, it is naive to believe that only militant, extremist groups pose a threat to India. The threat to Indian democracy in terms of its tolerance for plurality will come from the vast burgeoning Hindu middle-class who for some reason continue to feed on their own sense of victim-hood and genuinely believe that they are under threat of some sort. My favourite line is, I'm not an RSS or anything but I believe MF Hussein should be killed. (luckily he died before it came to that, broken and in exile.) Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Bicholim no exception to caste politics
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM: The caste factor has played a crucial role in the state ever since assembly elections have been held here and the Bicholim constituency is no exception. The first election was held in 1963 and late Kusumakar Kadkade, a member of the Bahujan Samaj, contesting on Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party ticket was elected from Bicholim. During the tenure of the first chief minister of Goa, late Dayanand Bandodkar from 1963 to 1971, and later during Ms Shashikala Kakodkar’s tenure as chief minister till 1979, the MGP was outrightly supported by the Bahujan Samaj, the Marathas, the Bhandari community and other communities. Late Dattaram Chopdekar (1967) and Ms Kakodkar of MGP who won in 1972 and 1977 from Bicholim belonged to the Bahujan Samaj. The Bicholim town has Catholic and Muslim voters, who have always supported the Congress party, and the rural areas of Bicholim constituency, which include Advalpal, Latambarsem, Van-Mavlingem, Mencurem, Sal and Mulgaon, is dominated by Hindu voters, who predominantly belong to the Maratha and Bhandari communities. There is also a presence of the Saraswat and Vaishya communities in the Bicholim town. In the 1980 elections, Mr Harish Zantye, a Saraswat, contested as an independent candidate and won. The factors contributing to his victory were negative voting against Ms Shashikala Kakodkar and Mr Zantye’s close contacts with the Bahujan Samaj in the rural panchayat areas. Mr Zantye won from Bicholim again in 1984, this time as a Congress candidate, defeating Mr Vinayak Naik of the MGP, a Saraswat. Among two Saraswat candidates Bahujan Samaj community had supported Mr Zantye. He had maintained close contacts, not only with the rural people, but also with the Catholic and Muslim communities. It was a different story in 1989 election. Mr Pandurang Raut, a Maratha candidate from Sal village contested from Bicholim constituency, and got elected due to the strong support of the Maratha Samaj and opponents of Mr Zantye from the Bicholim town. He defeated his rivals Mr Zantye and Mr Rajanaikant Lawanis, both members of Saraswat community. In 1994 elections, there was a triangular fight between late Pandurang Bhatale of Congress, Mr Panadurnag Raut (independent) and Mr Kalidas Parab of the MGP, all three from the Martha community. However, Bhatale, who contested as a Congress candidate was supported by Mr Harish Zantye, and managed to get the support of the Saraswat and Vaishya communities, became victorious. Mr Ramnath Dessai, was the first BJP candidate to contest election from Bicholim in 1989; Mr Dessai could secure only 221 votes. In 1994, the BJP did not field its candidate from Bicholim constituency; however, in 1999 elections, Mr Rajesh Patnekar of BJP contested from Bicholim. Even though he lost to Mr Pandurang Raut of MGP by a margin of only 90 votes, he was successful in spreading the BJP’s influence in rural areas. Bahujan Samaj votes were divided; Mr Raut secured a sizable chunk of the Catholic and Muslim votes, thereby securing victory. In 2002 and 2007, Mr Rajesh Patnekar of BJP won in succession because of the support of the Maratha and Bhandari communities and Hindu, Catholic and Muslim votes from Bicholim town. Anti-Congress wave was also another factor in this election. In 2007, Mr Raut of MGP and Mr Sawal of Congress, both Maratha community members only succeeded in dividing the votes thereby making it easy for Mr Patnekar to become victorious. In the forthcoming elections, the fight is likely among Mr Rajesh Patnekar of Congress, Mr Naresh Sawal and Mr Pandurang Raut, both independent candidates and Mr Manohar Shirodkar of BJP. That means a four-cornered battle amongst two Marathas, one Vaishya and one Bahujan Samaj candidate is expected. Though many factors are likely to influence the voters, the caste factor will be one among them and will definitely reflect on the political fortunes of the contesting candidates. (NT) --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Dear Marshall, I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable. Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival. The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked. Mog assom, Geraldo Oliveira -- On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira niger...@yahoo.com wrote: Matanhy and BJP As expected, Matanhy’s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush. This is exactly what the so called ‘secular’ hypocrisy is all about. Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our ‘secularist’ will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ‘secular’ Congress headed by Digubab. Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ‘secularist’. It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the Congress ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. While the Congress has plundered and sold Goa, it’s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks, will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some. Matanhy is a shrewd man with a strong mind of his own, capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP than under any Congress Government which is totally anti Goan. Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy’s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just to point out one example : SEZ in Goa was stopped only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led Government not so long ago. It has always been Matanhy’s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. Anybody can book Matanhy for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago,
[Goanet] Was Churchill CM twice?
A report in the Hindustan Times said Churchill was seeking his third stint as chief minister. I knew he was CM from March 27 to April 14, 1990. I googled and found that the IndianDemocracy.com website said he held CM's position in 1919; 1992-44. The report says he was twice eleted as MP, which is right, in 1996 and 2004. Here's what Goanews says: SEVENTH ASSEMBLY (1990 – 94 ) 1. Pratapsing Rane : 9 January '90 to 27 March '90 (75 days) 2. Churchill Alemao : 27 March '90 to 14 April '90 (18 days) 3. Dr Luis Proto Barbosa : 14 April '90 to 14 December '90 (8 months) 4. Ravi Naik : 25 January '91 to 18 May '93 (2.4 yrs) 5. Dr Wilfred de Souza : 18 May '93 to 2 April '94 (11 months) 6. Ravi Naik : 2 April '94 to 8 April '94 (6 days) 7. Dr Wilfred de Souza : 8 April '94 to 16 December '94 (8 months). Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Fwd: Keith Vaz's involvement in Goan party politics
-- Forwarded message -- From: delima francis francis.del...@blueyonder.co.uk Date: 14 February 2012 10:00 Subject: Keith Vaz's involvement in Goan party politics To: goa...@goanet.org If Soter wants enlightenment to his recent post as to why t is wrong for an MP from another country to intervene actively in the party politics of Goa, may I suggest the following consideration: If the reports on Goanet are correct and Keith Vaz has taken or is taking an active part in party politics in Goa then I believe such involvement to be inappropriate if not entirely improper. Mr Vaz is a British national, a Member of the British Parliament and, indeed, the Chairman of the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee. Accordingly, the latter Parliament and Committee - and very particularly his constituents in Leicester - ought to be his primary focus and should consume his total public energies, efforts and commitments. So, if the reports are correct, what on earth is he doing actively campaigning on behalf of a particular political party or candidate in Goa? As a Goan, Mr Vaz is understandably interested in his heritage and the old country and may well have views on Goan affairs but given his commitments back home (the UK) for which he is very handsomely paid and from which he derives extensive parliamentary privilleges, I believe that he ought to desist from active participation in Goan domestic politics. Of course, he has the option open to him to up roots in the UK and take up permanent residence in Goa! --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA......
Vinchnnukek ube ratolea umedvaramni 'dulpod'-acho sad kannar ghetlear tankam loz kitem ti kolltoli. Punn thoddeank loz mhontleli nam re saiba. Porbim hem dulpod ghoddtoleak. Xabas Anicet Florindo Lino From: Anicet F.M. Florindo Subject: [Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA.. To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 1:47 AM Dear Readers, this is my contribution - Part 2 out of 3 - in honour of our Great MLAs, Minister and Politicians... It can be sung on the tune of the famous Goan Dulpod: MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA.. MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA… Amcho amdar Ponnje ghela, Tacho usko amkam zala, Amcho amdar Ponnje ghela, Tacho usko amkam zala, Panch vorsanim porot-etolo mhunn jiv zata voir-khala, Panch vorsanim porot-etolo mhunn jiv zata voir-khala, Amdara I.e., amdara I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe, Amdara I.e., amdara I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe. Atam zala khoim tho montri Othant bounta fuloun sontri, Atam zala khoim tho montri Othant bounta fuloun sontri, Panch vorsanim porot etolo tachi-down zatoch battery, Panch vorsanim porot etolo tachi-down zatoch battery Amdara I.e., amdara I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe, Montrea I.e., montrea I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe. Ponnje meulo ghelea marsan, Amche thaim uloilo forsan, Ponnje meulo ghelea marsan, Amche thaim uloilo forsan, Porot athak meuxi tor judev korun tuzo laitam voron porsan, Porot athak meuxi tor judev korun tuzo laitam voron porsan. Amdara I.e., amdara I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe, Montrea I.e., montrea I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe. Tuka zaitoch amim sodlo, Matso ugddas kor re adlo, Sadho mhonis amchech modlo, Aiz vhodd bonglo tunvem bandlo, Chorunkuch urlo, anim soiream-dhaiream-ixttank tum re sanddlo, Chorunkuch urlo, anim soiream-dhaiream-ixttank tum re sanddlo. Amdara I.e., amdara I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe, Montrea I.e., montrea I.e., anim khobor amchi ghe. ANICET FLORINDO, Mapusa - RAK (UAE) --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] British MP's political outing in Goa draws flak
Goans are made aware by Soter that if Keith is legally wrong one should not generate gossips rather approach legal forum; if he is morally and ethically wrong one should either approach BJP buddies or anti-Churchill brigade. In any case no gossiping on Keith Vaz! That's a good stand w.r.t. British citizen! I wander, what one has do if Keith is legally, morally and ethically wrong? Best regards, U. G. Barad Soter wrote: Could someone tell us how Keith Vaz was wrong in speaking from an election platform? Is it ethically wrong, legally wrong or what? If he is legally wrong then the place to go is to the appropriate legal forum and not generate gossip. If accorduing to some he is morally and ethically wrong, then who decides this? BJP buddies, anti-Churchill brigade,? --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] A letter to Keith Vaz from GOA with LOVE
Dear Keith Vaz, Do not give 'ear' to this sentimental crap from Goans who themselves have left Goa high and dry to suck up to the Canadian Reds and the Reds everywhere in the world. I believe that you are doing the right thing. Birds of same feathers must flock together. Otherwise everything falls flat and there is no looter's 'community' left. Once again, very well done, Sir.. You have rightly realized that Goa's future lies with the 'Alemaos'. With you on their side, who can stop them?. Your comrade in the British parliament, eons ago, who sported the same name that you now are seen hanging around your neck, was a bloody fool, when he had told Clement Atlee this, in 1947. Quote Mr. Atlee, you must understand that you will be handing the reins of hungry millions in the hands of men of straw, freebooters and looters, where a day will come when even fresh air will not be free to breath. Unquote The bloody fool that he was, In'it??. 'Men of straw', huh? Would he have known at that time that the Indian Farmers would commit mass suicides and that the imported grain at heavy costs to the exchequer would rot in the go-downs where even the rodents would not eat them and people who must eat them die of hunger?? Would he have known at that time that his own name sake would be the champion of Goa's dynastic rule of freebooters and looters? And would he have known that a member of his own 'house', one day be sucking up to this Goa's Champion to make the august British Parliament a scene of ridicule? Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org The above is in response to: Mr. Vaz Goans like myself were compelled to leave our motherland Goa and settle abroad (I am in Canada) because the congress party in Goa made our lives miserable. We are now living in exile and you are canvassing for this party of murderers who are enriching themselves by raping my motherland? I had a good opinion of you but had no idea you are so stupid. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Cure that Persistent Cold
My good neighbor John Eric has a cold that 'just won't go away'. Coincidentally, I have one too; I guess it's just 'something going around'. But lately I've been giving some metaphysical-genre thinking about this matter---of 'PERSISTENT COLDS'. While taking 'an expectorant' (Homeopathic syrup available in India under trade-name 'Stodal'; no lurking, liver-wasting Paracetamol!) I recollect about my 'deep-breathing phase' when I was @ 'OCE' (Ontario Colllege of Education) in Canada half-a-century ago. I learned then (but later forgot) that 'OXYGEN IS THE BEST MEDICINE'. About a week back I began to stand out on my Goa 'balcon' @ 6 in the morning, for a customized version of SURYA NAMASKAR. Our latest Indian 'sadguru' (that mad fellow from Coimbatore who whizzes up-hill-and-down-dale on his 'Harley') says that in addition to listening for messages from outer space we should even now become aware that we are ALREADY receiving messages from INNER SPACE. I think he may be making a significant point there. We really don't have to 'LEARN' how to do deep-breathing or verandha-rail 'asanas'. Just stand out quietly---and let 'inner-space' take over. Your inner self will tell you what is to be done; when to raise the arms, and keep them up there for a few moments---pressed to the verandha sloped-ceiling which seems purpose-built for just this activity. The Isha Sadguru says, While inhaling be reminded that YOU ARE NOT THE BODY; and on exhaling, YOU ARE NOT EVEN THE MIND. Interesting thought, that; still working on it! With some work experience with in film animation I'm even tempted to think that those rock-cave sculptor ancestors of ours, who created multi-armed gods and goddesses, were showing us yoga arm movements---deep-frozen in stone,for our consumption centuries later. Half an hour of this in the early morning (before the neighbors can monitor your shenanigans) may do more than any medicine to clear away phlem/mucous/sputum ---whatever is that guckey stuff is that coats bronchial tubes and blocks air passages---and just keeps on building up! The 'persistent cough' and 'cold', that 'just won't go away' like John Eric's and mine, may be the body's way of signalling ENOUGH ALREADY---start breathing, lazybones! Away with the anti-biotic; oxygen is the best medicine; and the only way to get it is to breath---CONSCIOUSLY --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival. FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again. GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly' GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha. On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again. GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha. FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent. GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the Congress but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities, FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move, especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho.. GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks, will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some. FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than warranted just like the old fox from Saligao.. GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-) GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali 'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They do not look away. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Geraldo Oliveira niger...@yahoo.com To: mmendonz...@gmail.com Cc: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first
[Goanet] GoaOldPhoto: Nehru in Margao, schoolgirls of the 1960s in Mapusa, Konkani rally, college days, Reita Faria in Africa, backing the Black African cause...
Nehru in Goa, 1962/63, at Clube Harmonia de Margao Photo from the collection of the late Francisco Filomeno Figueiredo, an avid photographer, taken sometime in 1962/63 when Nehru visited Goa with Indira. They were taken in the Clube Harmonia de Margao. Photo received via Gilbert Menezes. Released under the Creative Commons 3.0 attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license. Some rights reserved. Conditions for non-commercial reuse: creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ Please strictly follow the terms for reuse of the photo, including attribution. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008835/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008817/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6882008831/in/photostream [with Indira Gandhi] Schoolgirls from the 1960s... St Mary's Convent, Mapusa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810936193/in/set-72157629154727531 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810932597/in/set-72157629154727531 Konkani rally at Azad Maidan, 1986. Photo by Lui Godinho http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810937429/in/set-72157629154727531 College days, 1970s. St Xavier's College, Mapusa Including Fr Nicolau Pereira (Pop) and Fr Ivo de Mascarenhas (Vice Pop) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810920131/in/set-72157629154727531 Girl-guides, 1970s, Lourdes Convent, Saligao http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810851937/in/set-72157629154727531 Reita Faria in Africa, 1960s. Probably Entebbe Airport. From the collection of Luis Assis Correia. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5485972991/in/set-72157629154727531 A Goan supporter of the Black African cause -- Aquino Braganca in the bush, probably during the Mozbiquan or Angolan independence wars. From the collection of Silvia Braganca. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/3406904152/in/set-72157629154727531 Temple tank, Ponda. During the 'Protect Waters, Protect Life' march, mid 1980s, locally organised by Matanhy Saldanha and others. Photo from the collection of FN. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810908849/in/set-72157629154727531 Birds of a feather... politicians in different times. At the old Secretariat, Panjim. Probably late 1980s. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810912233/in/set-72157629154727531 Gambling 'matka' sheets. Recent image. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6810913041/in/set-72157629154727531 FOOTNOTE: Don't leave your old memories to white ants and time-fuelled deterioration. Scan a few and email them to me to share with the world! All images are welcome, specially (but not restricted to) those over 50 years old. -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Books from Goa,1556 http://scr.bi/Goa1556Books Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] Living History
Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'Living History' This evening I had the rare fortune of photographing not one but two nonagenarians, both of them in my immediate family: my father Motilal Parrikar (91) and maternal uncle Dr. Vamona Sinari (91). We went up the hill in Panjim to the old Liceu (Lyceum) buildings where my uncle did his pre-medical schooling. [...] You may view the latest post at http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2012/02/16/living-history/ Best regards, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Was Churchill CM twice?
Repeating the first para with corrections, 1990; 1992-94. report in the Hindustan Times said Churchill was seeking his third stint as chief minister. I knew he was CM from March 27 to April 14, 1990. I googled and found that the IndianDemocracy.com website said he held CM's position in 1990; 1992-94 The report says he was twice eleted as MP, which is right, in 1996 and 2004. Here's what Goanews says: Churchill also said he could win from any of the 40 seats. Such hubris. Or, is it foot-in-the-mouth disease? Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
To Goanet - Pandu Lampiao wrote: What none of the commentators in the wrapping newspapers nor the GoaNet have mentioned is the 'green' lot (the ones who descended from Hubli and multiplied in Goi). Our very own GoaNet Parrikar's post a few weeks ago alludes to their world view Pandu-bab, Some years ago, Admin Noronha had claimed (as always, without any basis) that my opposition to ghatis was based on my dislike of muslims, since in his view, the majority of ghatis were muslims. That absurd claim of FN was soon shown to be garbage for it soon became clear that I didn't give a rat's ass what religion the ghatis subscribe to. By the way, I realized that a couple of my photo galleries from the past are still online. Savour the ghatification (or 'cosmopolitanism', according to 'digital humanitarian' Amitav Ghosh) - http://www.parrikar.org/images/ghatification http://www.parrikar.org/images/goa-ghatis r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] British MP's political outing in Goa draws flak
U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com asked: I WANDER, what one has do if Keith is legally, morally and ethically wrong? Answer: Stop WANDERING. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Fall in Love
How did I fall in Love? Actually, I didn't fall, she pushed me.. Well, this is just to thank Sharon for her beautiful songs all these years. 'Moddgvam Prasar' is simply unforgetable.. Congratulations to Sharon Mazarello less than 2 mins video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgdVUjg1Ak Wilson (Wilmix), Mary Silveira (Mrs. Mary Silveira, President, Quebec Goan Association, Montreal0, Mukesh Ghatwal (music Director) etc also seen in the short clip Sharon Mazarello’s much awaited Konkani Pop Audio Album ‘FALL IN LOVE” is finally Released this Valentine’s Day 14.2.2012 Released at the hands of Ms. Mary Silveira (President, Quebec Goans Association, Montreal, Canada), at the Kala Academy during ‘TUM LONDONKAR VO GOENKAR 2’ Tiatr show. Sharon dedicated this Music Album to all Valentines as it features a special song for Valentine’s day. The CD has about 9 songs (mostly love songs) or check this pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr11/6877304829/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr11/6882831133/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr11/6882828671/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr11/6882825427/in/photostream/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF
I understand the position of Marshall Mendonza. Marshall is not a devout Hindu. He is a devout Christian propagandist. Therefore, he is not expected to understand what a devout Hindu apologist like Sandesh Anvekar would perceive as offensive or hateful to his own religion. Marlon has nicely illustrated the quote from the so-called Catholic-Christian Secular Forum (CSF) that a devout Hindu might regard as anti-Hindu. Here is what Marlon said: QUOTE The above statement implies that this prostitution/enslavement is part of the Hindu practice while the path through christianity offers them salvation. Conclusion: hinduism is inferior, christianity is superior. If Nasci had a little more finesse in his writing ability, he would make a perfect reporter for the CSF. UNQUOTE Marlon Menezes It is very easy to demonstrate that the CSF is not a secular forum, and that it is, as I have stated, a Catholic propaganda outfit as much as the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti is a Hindu propaganda outfit. Indeed, ironically Marshall himself has provided evidence for this fact in his following quote: QUOTE The worst that can be said about the CSF is that sometimes it goes overboard and tends to over-react to minor and inconsequential issues like that of calling for a ban on the Da Vince Code movie or more recently A R Rahman's song which contains the word 'Hosanna. UNQUOTE .Marshall Mendonza No secular organization would ever choose to impose its will on the people in general on self-serving parochial religious grounds, in violation of a fundamental constitutional right to free speech, by calling for a ban of a movie. Please note that the general secretary of CSF, Joseph Dias publicly issued the following threat of possible violence if Da Vinci Code was not banned: QUOTE You can't make fiction on a religious figure. Tempers are already running quite high and there's no way of saying what could happen if the movie is released UNQUOTE ..Joseph Dias, General Secretary of CSF Please see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4759111.stm A former corporator of Mumbai named Nicholas Almeida who along with the CSF has led the protest march for banning movies that the CSF finds offensive, announced a dead or alive bounty of 11 lakhs for the head of Dan Brown, the author of the Da Vinci book. Please see: http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=localnewsid=28317 As far as anti-secular hatred on other fronts is concerned, the CSF has also joined the hate-filled homophobia campaign by providing links to bogus propaganda articles claiming that homosexuality is linked to the crime of pedophilia. Please see: http://persecutedchurch.info/2011/04/14/national-campaigns/ Finally, I would like to point out that as a religious propagandist, Marshall Mendonza might have a lot in common with Sandesh Anvekar. He mixes his religion with politics, selectively reports news items on the propaganda websites of his religion, and lashes out against anybody whom he perceives as being, or saying anything, contrary to his religio-political views. The selective bias is also evident from the fact that he is not sensitive to hatred, abuse or derision when it is directed at other religions and other communities, unless there is some political significance in it for him. He cannot appreciate the fact that the Devadasi issue, cherry-picked by the CSF, ignoring the much broader world-wide problem of prostitution, referred to by Noronha, as well as the incoherent boorish anti-Hindu rants of Nascimento and Floriano, might be insulting to a devout Hindu apologist such as Sandesh. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com Response: 1.As usual Santosh tends to exaggerate, mislead and obfuscate issues. In no way can the CSF be compared or equated with the HJS. I have yet to see one provocative article inciting hate or violence against any religion. Neither have I come across any hate literature or propaganda espoused by it like the HJS. If Santosh has come across any, I would request him to provide the links. The worst that can be said about the CSF is that sometimes it goes overboard and tends to over-react to minor and inconsequential issues like that of calling for a ban on the Da Vince Code movie or more recently A R Rahman's song which contains the word 'Hosanna. It has been playing an exemplary role in highlighting acts of hate and violence against the Christian community which generally go unnoticed in the secular media. Unlike the CSF, the HJS/ SS has been involved in terrorist activities and is currently being considered for being banned by the security forces and government. 2. I went through the article in question. Nowhere does it point out any flaw in the Hindu religion. In fact, it offers hope to those whom society has cast away. For those conversant or familiar with the Bible, there is the living example of Mary
[Goanet] Goa news for February 16, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** ECI promises a viva carnival, after all - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: In a major relief to the Goa tourism industry, the Election Commission of India (ECI) on Wednesday gave its green signal to the carnival parades in the state with conditions which included a total ban on the participation or patronization of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEewOfbLK-7mP4nfOYdYh9dF6ihGQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/ECI-promises-a-viva-carnival-after-all/articleshow/11907021.cms *** Rane violated Code: JD (U) - Times of India tny5rtX0Cw http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGGHwofrUZqsgM5iiqG2H51nPQSPgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Rane-violated-Code-JD-U/articleshow/11906925.cms *** Five Sesa Goa trucks collapse from truss bridge - IBNLive.com NLive.comPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNElM5nPq6me-tyWkhqPgeBNhgcOMAurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/five-sesa-goa-trucks-collapse-from-truss-bridge/964062.html *** Goa illegal mining scam worth $423 million: TMC - IBNLive.com JZFS5A6tlOrnZ5VOtFkYzA http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHkuzoNs1bb6z15MJWRl0Z4PcNi7wurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/goa-illegal-mining-scam-worth-423-million-tmc/230603-37-64.html *** Goa: Excise licenses of 14 bars, including Curlies, suspended - IBNLive.com epartment-suspends-14-licences/articleshow/11906997.cmsExcise department suspends 14 licences http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGQ1knGPgy6h-sLWdFyHCrvSB1f2wurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-excise-licenses-of-14-bars-including-curlies-suspended/964024.html *** Review of the Grand Hyatt Goa - Hindu Business Line and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEaDmi0Qx-pq2qzrQFCXet_LOHiTgurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/smartbuy/luxury-and-fashion/article2892523.ece?homepage=trueref=wl_home *** Blackmore deems GOA Sports Administrators Course a success - Stabroek News abroek NewsSome 16 officials from various sporting disciplines graduated from the 13th annual GOA Sports Administration Course ¦.. The Comments section is intended to provide a forum for reasoned and reasonable debate on the newspaper's content and is an ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHsRMJxlRY98zUryoRYqAUKw0uTHwurl=http://www.stabroeknews.com/2012/sports/02/15/blackmore-deems-goa-sports-administrators-course-a-success/ *** 'Plenty of time for rebels to quit' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa Pradesh Congress Committee working president Francisco Sardinha said that some Congress rebels have started withdrawing their nominations as independent candidates and there is still time for others to do the same. Speaking to mediapersons ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH3REWzLht_TCKyT-gF4M19nnJLLQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Plenty-of-time-for-rebels-to-quit/articleshow/11906864.cms *** Development spotlight: Radisson Blu Goa - Hotel News Now ack beach town. The 132-room Radisson Blu Resort Goa Cavelossim Beach is typical of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGIhgbTrjFd-8lstYHYtfXYheguwwurl=http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Articles.aspx/7539/Development-spotlight-Radisson-Blu-Goa *** Now, Churchill defends Cong's 'family raj' policy - Times of India ssue even as he exuded confidence that all four will make it to the Goa legislative assembly. The political system of this country is ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEvz7Tj1Dr6fzyMtWvmZhmJtJfNRwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Now-Churchill-defends-Congs-family-raj-policy/articleshow/11906912.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] TAG: Book Release: 'Lokam Khell', 'Mummy, Mhaka Tuje Vengent Dhor' 'Oxem Ghoddlem'
TAG’s Release of Books Tiatr Academy Goa has published 3 books on three different topics related to tiatr. These books will be released at the hands of Rev. Fr. Manuel Gomes, Director, Diocesan Center for Biblical Apostolate on 16th February 2012 at 4:45 pm at the Conference Hall of Tiatr Academy Goa, Block A, 2nd Floor, Campal Trade Centre, Campal, Panjim. Invite:http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6881476101/in/photostream The three books to be released are ‘Oxem Ghoddlem’, ‘Lokam Khell’ and ‘Mummy, Mhaka Tuje Vengent Dhor’. The book ‘Oxem Ghoddlem’ written by Daniel F. de Souza highlights important and serious as well as funny incidents in the lives of tiatr artistes. Mr. de Souza has narrated numerous incidents in the lives of 31 tiatr artistes which are still on the tiatr stage. ‘Lokam Khell’ is a traditional folk play in Konkani which is also known as Zomnivoilo- Khell. Written by Vitorino Pereira, ‘Lokam Khell’ gives the true picture of the Konkani folk plays that were staged in the past. ‘Mummy, Mhaka Tuje Vengent Dhor’ is a script of a popular tiatr written and directed by Albert Leo de Souza. The theme of the play dwells around upbringing of children in modern families. ‘Oxem Ghoddlem’ is published under the TAG’s scheme Documentation of Tiatr through Research Work while ‘Lokam Khell’ and ‘Mummy, Mhaka Tuje Vengent Dhor’ are published under the scheme Preservation of Tiatr Literature. All lovers of tiatr are requested to attend the function in large numbers. Victor de Sa Member Secretary --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Art Exhibition: DIFFERENT (Curtorim, Goa)
DIFFERENT, 'An art exhibition with a difference' was inaugurated on the Feb 11, 2012 at Arco Iris, Curtorim and shall remain open to the public daily until Feb 17, 2012 (10am-8pm). There are over 40 paintings of different genres, styles, mediums and colours. The exhibition brings together under one beautiful Goan roof, portraits, modernism, surrealism, impressionism and abstracts. One will not only find a contrast of colours, but also contrasts of works and styles. 'DIFFERENT' is an effort to have something for everyone who walks in as different people have different tastes. The most fascinating paintings that will grab your attention are the ones painted by Alex Rodrigues who paints with his bare fingers and nails. This talented Mumbai based artist of Goan origin is globally known as a finger painter and has had his exhibitions in Europe and other countries. There is a huge collection of his finger painted Christs which would certainly make you wonder how could someone paint it without a brush. The other artists who have displayed their artwork are Liberetta Rodrigues, Deepak Bellary, Mona Astha, Nikkita Jain, Sunil Pawle and Meena. If you are an art lover, this exhibition is a must visit. Source: Millisha Silveira Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment www.goanet.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Porngate FOGGed out in Karnataka
Just as in the case of corruption in BJP ruled States, the fate of the porngate scandal has been tackled by banning private channels from the Karnataka Assembly. Corruption and scandals can be made to disappear from this country by the BJP just with the stroke of a pen. Very simple solution, cover it full proof and campaign that it does not exist. What FOGG-ing yaar? Soter --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Am still trying to find your quote Senor Parrikar on the 'green'
community' as it is very pertinent in the current election
'discussion'. Kindly do share. Maybe it will sink in the second-time
around.
My observation is one cannot give an accurate account on life in Goa
amidst free-flowing garbage if you wake up with the tavern-owners and
tiatrists (these f*ks who still sing of sobit amchi Gova). None of
these {are they blind?) have woken in time to take a bus ride from
Titan (majority on this g-net would not know where that is) to Vascu.
The bus ride would be a real eye-opener for a change and if you hear a
word of your beloved Concani (while on the bus), you should faint.
Really, f*k the drama. Ones heart bleeds when you see some unknowing
Goichi getting on the bus and trying to converse in Concani, they know
no other language! And one reads on the g-net about the conviction of
some retarded f*cks wants to save Goa ya? Huh?
The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you
said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any
community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Starting with the minarets
of Titan (their plans or have already acquired the land stretching
from Titan to that cop-a factory). Then there is the slum, which has
slowly turning green, as a vote bank for a certain 'politician'. That
is were the m*drasa is and if you pass by on any weekend, the cement
and paint is still wet, thank you election time.
Note for the real-estte inv^stors: going price for a casa-in-the
slum, 1500k + rupiya!!!
Then on to the port town.which brings the ambiance of M*hammed
A^li road (in Mumbai)if you ever opened your eyes to goings on in
'green gettos', everything contrary to what any civil society would
want, from crime, to little bands of crooks. One could go on but why
bother.
Last week, a 'green' festival march/parade in Vascu gave an accuracate
estimate to locals how the demographic has changed and is changing. If
you heard the demands on local tvee last night, they want 4 reserved
seatsthe gao of Murm, Santa Cruz-Chimbel, Ponda and Fatorda (they
already have). Earlier, 'they' wanted Navelim. Am a little in shock
hearing that. But thats is the way it isto invade, multiply and
wreck...or is it hatching, matching and dispatching?
To clarify again,this is not against any religious groups nor do I
belong to a religious group.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
To Goanet -
Pandu Lampiao wrote:
What none of the commentators in the wrapping newspapers nor the
GoaNet have mentioned is the 'green' lot (the ones who descended from
Hubli and multiplied in Goi). Our very own GoaNet Parrikar's post a
few weeks ago alludes to their world view
Pandu-bab,
Some years ago, Admin Noronha had claimed (as always, without any basis)
that my opposition to ghatis was based on my dislike of muslims, since in his
view, the majority of ghatis were muslims. That absurd claim of FN was soon
shown to be garbage for it soon became clear that I didn't give a rat's ass
what
religion the ghatis subscribe to.
By the way, I realized that a couple of my photo galleries from the past are
still online. Savour the ghatification (or 'cosmopolitanism', according to
'digital humanitarian' Amitav Ghosh) -
http://www.parrikar.org/images/ghatification
http://www.parrikar.org/images/goa-ghatis
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[Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA......
Very funny, ironic but true and innovative. Keep up!! MD Message: 9 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:47:42 -0500 From: Anicet F.M. Florindo ali...@emirates.net.ae To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA.. Message-ID: 4f3b550e.10...@emirates.net.ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Dear Readers, this is my contribution - Part 2 out of 3 - in honour of our Great MLAs, Minister and Politicians... It can be sung on the tune of the famous Goan Dulpod: MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA.. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA
In response to: From: Anicet F.M. Florindo Subject: [Goanet] MHOZO POTI BOMBAIM GHELA.. To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 1:47 AM Bab Anicet, Xabaski ani porbim tumkam, amchea zaitea Gõykarank ani maka, tumchem hem dulpod ekdomuch avoddlem, tumi annikui oslim dulpodam borouchim mhunn amchi khalti maghnnim. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Dear Geraldo I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption combined with communalism can be deadly and potent. The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism. This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview. Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which link I posted last time. I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As Town Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar. So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar. The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes. Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer more hope. At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later. Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean, efficient and fair governance. Regards, Marshall On 2/15/12, Geraldo Oliveira niger...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Marshall, I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable. Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival. The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked. Mog assom, Geraldo Oliveira --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Anti Nuclear Agitation - Talk and Presentation by Angela Alvares
LITERATI INVITES YOU ON FRIDAY 17TH FEB 2012 AT 7 p.m. TO A SLIDE PRESENTATION AND TALK BY ANGELA ALVARES ON THE ANTI NUCLEAR AGITATION IN INDIA Angela Alvares, a 60 year old musician, is part of the massive anti-nuclear agitation that refuses to allow the Koodankulam nuclear reactors to be commissioned. The agitation emerged after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in March 2011. Angela now moves around Tamil Nadu with a slide presentation of her own making, introducing people to new and emerging technologies that make reliance on nuclear power obsolete. Her talk also focuses on the problems associated with nuclear energy and why more people should join the agitations against nuclear power at Koodankulam and Jaitapur. Goa today is sandwiched between the nuclear complex at Kaiga and the approved complex at Jaitapur. Suddenly our future is being married to the prospect of living under the permanent possibility of a major nuclear accident that will require the evacuation of the entire State. Angela studied two years at San Diego Community College in the US and graduated with an Associates Degree in Music in l986. She graduated with a Bachelor’s in French Literature at UCSD La Jolla, San Diego, at John Muir College in 1989. She put together her own Album “Only in America” of original music and songs. She was a jazz performer at fine dining restaurants for a few years in Nevada City and Grass valley, California. She returned to India in 1994. She lived in Goa from 1994-2005 when she performed her jazz routine at Goan resorts. She moved to Coonoor in the Nilgiri Hills in 2006 but remains active as ever. Welcome to a power-packed introduction to the problems that nuclear power is already causing to our lives. Goanet Events www.goanet.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
The reason the post below and the previous one by Selma are an unjustified overreaction is because it gratuitously generalizes and assigns a deeper meaning to an angry reaction of a Hindu Goanetter in response to a religious provocation against his religion from a Catholic weblink provided in this forum. To jump from any such random impulsive remark to the conclusion that India is close to being a theocracy rather than a functioning democracy would be tantamount to concluding that Goan Catholics in general are anti-Hindu and anti-Indian bigots because of the repeated oafish outbursts that appear on Goanet from the likes of Nascimento, Floriano and Bernado. Most Indians, middle class or otherwise, are not right wing religious zealots. They do not support a theocratic state. They hold diverse views, and make free and independent-minded choices in elections. India is a successful, albeit messy, secular democracy, and will continue to be so, irrespective of which party comes to power. It is however more likely to always elect a party that upholds pluralism and secularism. Moreover, its democratic institutions such as the press and the Supreme Court will never abandon these principles. Here is a nice BBC article on the enduring democracy in India, and what it means to the rest of the world, and why it will always thrive: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6943598.stm Here is a quote from it as to why there is no threat to India's democracy. QUOTE The only foreseeable threat to India's democratic future is the possibility that a political party like the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) might ride a wave of majoritarian sentiment to become the default party of government. This would threaten India's carefully built pluralist democracy because the BJP, despite its nativist rhetoric, ironically favours a European nationalist idiom, where the nation is home to a majority people. In India's case, this would be the Hindus. If the BJP and its ideological preferences become entrenched in the Indian state, the ethnic violence that has torn Sri Lanka apart could be replicated on a sub-continental scale. That is unlikely to happen. A BJP-led coalition governed India for an entire parliamentary term and failed to make the demographic majority of Hindus a political reality. The republic's statutes and the rulings of their authorised interpreter, the Supreme Court, make it nearly impossible for political parties to fundamentally alter the basic structure of the constitution. Besides, the diversity of the electorate forces India's ruling coalitions into such complex electoral arithmetic that the pluralism so crucial to the Republic's well-being is safe for the foreseeable future. UNQUOTE Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com I've been on this forum for about six years and this is the first time I've come across Sandesh Anvekar's posts. For the first time to be an attack on the Church does not bode well. Sandesh, who professes to have a little more knowledge than a kindergarten child, should know in Christianity the Church is synonymous with its religion. It sees no distinction. Hence an attack on the Church is very similar to unbridled criticism of Hindu Gods. ... Lastly, as to the point that I am over-reacting, I don't think so. To believe that India is somehow a mature, functioning democracy in my opinion is a highly optimistic point of view. We are anything but a secular, liberal society. We are at best two shades lighter than conservative theocracies with ever shrinking space in the domain of individual and collective freedoms. Furthermore, it is naive to believe that only militant, extremist groups pose a threat to India. The threat to Indian democracy in terms of its tolerance for plurality will come from the vast burgeoning Hindu middle-class who for some reason continue to feed on their own sense of victim-hood and genuinely believe that they are under threat of some sort. My favourite line is, I'm not an RSS or anything but I believe MF Hussein should be killed. (luckily he died before it came to that, broken and in exile.) Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency 2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow the LEADER. JC Response: [A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following: a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy to join the BJP b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined the BJP . and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP. [B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here: c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter. d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every person, is born digambara. U! (;-) jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF
As a sangh parivar (hindutva) apologist/sympathiser, Santosh's response was on expected lines. One can let one's imagination run riot and come to as many conclusions as one desires.Helping women in distress come out of prostitution can in no way be said to constitute anti-hindu sentiments as Santosh would like to mislead us and give a communal flavour. Deliberately trying to misrepresent Sandesh's missive against the Church, is a deliberate ploy to mislead and obfuscate issues which can be pinned down. A lesson well learnt and imbibed from the headquarters in Nagpur. So far as his remarks against CSF is concerned, every individual or organisation is free to protest peacefully or voice their grievances. I challenge Santosh to provide one incident of violence in which CSF showed its protests. Smearing and tarnishing the images and reputations of individuals and organisations which work for minorities and the downtrodden is a standard ploy used by the sangh parivar and which Santosh demonstrates in good measure. Santosh keeps comparing the CSF with the HJS/SS but is unable to provide even a single incident of hate or violence but will keep on making insidious insinuations. It is my view that we see communal reactions like that of Sandesh and Santosh and others is due to the fact that we have not been exposed enough to the religious texts, practices and traditions of other religions. Had we been so, this particular report would not have attracted the kind of response that we saw. Regards, Marshall . --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa election results -2012
The March 2012 election results are out and the winners, losers are as follows: Politicians aka thieves: 40 Common man/woman: 0 Builder's lobby: 40 Common man/woman: 0 Miners' lobby: 40 Common man/woman: 0 Pro-corruption MLAs: 40 Common man/woman: 0 Pro-communal MLAs 40 Common man/woman: 0 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Intruz brings colour to the lives of Dongorim's Hindus
Intruz brings colour to the lives of Dongorim's Hindus TNN | Feb 16, 2012, 05.37AM IST PANAJI: Dongorim etymologically means village situated on a hillock. Dongorim, a hamlet of the village of Mandur, situated 11km from Bambolim in Tiswadi taluka, celebrates Intruz from February 10 to February 16. The festival includes folk dances, recitation of folk songs to the beats of folk musical instruments by communities associated with agriculture, fishing and several other activities. Intruz, a Christian version of Shigmo is celebrated mostly by the Christian gawdas, three days prior to the Lenten season. The Christian communities living in Tiswadi, Bardez, and Salcete who were originally converted from Hinduism during the Portuguese rule, found it difficult to break their links with the Shigmo festival and they began the tradition of singing and dancing on the beats of percussion instruments like the ghumat, dhol, taso etc. Dongorim, a pre-dominantly Hindu hamlet that worships the deity, Shasti Shantadurga, is the only village that has Hindus celebrating Intruz. During the Portuguese rule, they were prohibited from celebrating traditional fairs and festivals. They would then obtain permission from the government to celebrate Intruz. During the 11th month of the Hindu calendar Magh on the third Friday at the stroke of midnight, villagers begin the procession of fatyasuvari, where some of them cover their bodies with woollen carpets with music playing in the background. On the second day, a well-decorated umbrella with crossandra flowers is taken from house-to-house in a procession, which is welcomed by every family by invoking Ravalnath, Satimaya, Sakhalyo, Golibaba. This procession continues on the third day. On the fourth day, the deity is put in to a lalakhi and is carried by devotees on their shoulders. The fifth day attracts a large crowd of devotes to Dongorim. The troupes of folk artistes with varied percussion instruments visit every house. Relatives and friends who attend the festival are welcomed with a special dish made from local vermicelli called shirvalyo and coconut juice. The Intruz festival in Dongorim concludes on a Wednesday every year, with the villagers sprinkling colours on each other by dancing to the tunes of percussion instruments by forgetting their caste and tribal differences. Ramrao Wagh, a native of Dongorim who teaches MCA at the Goa University and has been a part of Intruz since his childhood, says, Intruz is a replica of the Shigmo festival, which has provided a forum for many generations in Dongorim to exhibit their talent and skill in folklore. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Intruz-brings-colour-to-the-lives-of-Dongorims-Hindus/articleshow/11906971.cms --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
