[Goanet-News] Hindutva Lab 2.0 ... (Tehelka on Karnataka)
Hindutva Lab 2.0 BJP-ruled Karnataka is on a dangerous path of radicalisation. Rana Ayyub traces the scary distortion of an entire society PHOTO: Long march RSS members take part in the Hindu Shakti Sangama in Hubli Photo: Karnataka News Images problems IS KARNATAKA the new Gujarat, the second laboratory of Hindutva for the BJP and the broader Sangh Parivar? As the BJP government in the state enters the final year of its first term in power -- it had earlier ruled in alliance with the JD(S) -- that disturbing question comes up again and again. Behind the morality and hypocrisy, the humbug and corruption that the BJP establishment in Bengaluru has been charged with is a harder, harsher truth: the scary distortion of an entire society. Two weeks ago, the so-called 'porngate' controversy rattled the country, when three BJP ministers were caught in the Assembly watching a pornographic clip -- later explained as the recording of a woman being raped -- while the House was in session and discussing poverty. While that controversy claimed the headlines, it also forced the RSS and its affiliates in the state to hurriedly cancel plans of the extended session of the Hindu Shakti Sangama. A Hindu show of strength, as the name implies, the Sangama was supposed to be held across the state after the opening convention in Hubli. Chief Minister DV Sadananda Gowda turned up in Hubli, wearing the RSS trademark khaki shorts -- perhaps the first time a chief minister has been seen thus clad at a public event. If pictures tell a story, this one spoke volumes of the saffronisation of Karnataka. The Sangama may have been interrupted by the Sangh Parivar, embarrassed and still recovering from the shame of porngate. Nevertheless, as TEHELKA travelled through Karnataka, spending a week journeying from urbane Bengaluru to northern and coastal Karnataka, what became apparent was that right-wing Hindu attacks on Muslims and Christians were now a regular feature. This reporter came back with accounts, incidents and testimonies that were so brazen, it was shocking. Take a small example. On 22 January, there was uproar in Uppanangadi, a hamlet near Mangalore. Kalladka Prabhakar Bhatt, a senior RSS leader known for his proximity to Sadananda Gowda and his predecessor BS Yeddyurappa, was addressing a crowd and resorted to extreme and undignified imagery. Lift the veils of Muslim women, Bhatt told the throng, and glimpse what they have to offer. His listeners cheered; policemen listened too, but strolled casually, as if nothing were happening. Soon after, the local minorities -- a mix of Muslim and Catholic organisations -- approached the police, which reluctantly filed an FIR against Bhatt. Yet it refused to arrest him, arguing there was no basis for taking him into custody. Rather, as if to compensate, the local police then filed an FIR against the president of the Muslim Central Committee, Mohammad Masood, under Section 153(a) of the Indian Penal Code -- Promoting communal enmity between classes -- as well as Section 505(2) -- Making statements that create or promote communal enmity. Two senior police officers have asked to be moved to Central government postings because they cannot take what is happening in the state What was Masood's fault? He had called a press conference to condemn Bhatt's despicable one-liner. When contacted, Mangalore SP Abhishek Goyal suggested that there were grey areas and the police would certainly study the case. While the police was still studying the footage of Bhatt's public meeting, the man himself inaugurated the new building of the Mangalore Police Commissionerate! Sitting with him in the VIP row was none other than the chief minister. It was the sort of moment and photo-op the media just waits for. Yet the presence of Bhatt so soon after the unseemly incident found no mention in the media coverage of the inauguration of the new building. It was almost as if there was a conspiracy of silence. Only one plucky local newspaper broke the Omerta: Karavali Ale. At one time, Karavali Ale was Karnataka's most popular newspaper. Part of the reason it is not any longer may have to do with the stance of its editor, BV Sitaram, who has been one of the few voices in the state warning against the rising tide of religious bigotry. For two decades, he has documented each and every communal incident, big and small, in the state -- and has suffered for it. In 2009, Sitaram was arrested when a case was filed against him for defamation. Twenty-five policemen turned up and surrounded him. It seemed like they had come to arrest a terrorist, he exclaims. His fault was he had written about the exploits of a local Bajrang Dal leader. Sitaram points to the newspapers stacked in his office. Picking up some of them at random, from the previous month's pile, almost every day one finds mention of an attack on Muslims and Christians, on churches and mosques. Sitaram is distraught: They go around shouting
[Goanet] SMILE............................... IT'S WEEKEND (16/02/2012)
ALL OVER... An old man (Andru) in his late seventies was summoned by the Auditor of tax department for investigation. Andru showed up with his Attorney: Auditor: Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no employment, Which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. But we don’t find that believable. Andru: I'm a great gambler, and I can prove it, How about a demonstration? The Auditor thinks for a moment: Auditor: Okay. Go ahead. Andru: I'll bet you Rs:5000/=, that I can bite my own eye. Auditor: (thinks a moment) It's a bet. Andru removes his glass eye and bites it. The Auditor's jaw drops. Andru: Now, I'll bet you Rs:10,000/= that I can bite my other eye.. Now the Auditor can tell Andru isn't blind, so he takes the bet: Andru removes his dentures and bites his good eye. The stunned Auditor now realizes he has wagered and lost Rs:15,000/=, with Andru's Attorney as a witness. He starts to get nervous. Andru: Want to go for double? I'll bet you Rs. 30,000/= that I can stand on one side of your desk, and pee into that wastebasket on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between. The Auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there's no way this old guy could possibly manage that stunt, so he agrees again: Andru stands beside the desk and unzips his pants, but although he strains mightily, he can't make the stream reach the wastebasket on the other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor's desk. The Auditor leaps with joy, realizing that he has just turned a major loss into a huge win. But Andru's own Attorney moans and puts his head in his hands. Auditor: Are you okay? Attorney: Not really, This morning, when Andru told me he'd been summoned for an audit, he bet me Rs:75,000/= that he could come in here and piss all over your desk and that you'd be happy about it! Cajetan de Sanvordem Kuwait. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Pandu lampioa wrote: The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Dear Pandu, If it comes as a surprise that fairly liberal people like you and me, turn violently conservative and anti-migrant, it is because we have to live in that hell-hole, wholesale brothel otherwise known as Vascu. By the time you reach St Andrews Church the last vestige of its former glory standing against the onslaught of mindless insanity, those of us who grew up in Salcete, fall on us knees and pray to St. Andrews that such a horrific plague of destruction never visits Salcete. Alas, Margao is already beset with a similar plague. My mother-in-law who arrived in Vascu about forty-five years ago remembers Vascu in its days of glory. The gaunkars had built their charming homes on Mangor hill so that they may leave the windows open and let in the fresh air blowing upwards. Today they've learnt to padlock those same windows even during the daytime to keep safe what is left of their gold crucifixes and their flailing dignity. Vascu, mind you was the first township in Goa to have proper sewage and the design of the town itself, what one can still decipher amidst the cones popping up everywhere for endless traffic diversions and the gaddos sprouting in every conceivable place, is so well planned it would put a small European city to same. The sewers however have long past their capacity to keep filth underground and the green that oozes out on good days is now so commonplace Vascukars have grown heavy lids and hairy nostrils which they can now automatically close like some better adapted mammals to deal with it. And all the while Mangor breathes heavy under the weight of expanding slums which now spread from one side of the airport road right down into the port city itself. On the other side of airport road are penthouses which sell for over 1 crore built without rhyme or reason and more specifically without proper planning, roads, drainage, sewage or garbage disposal. If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian strongholds. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Mathany's choice to official join BJP is perhaps because, if he wins, he can be an important part of the government. As a UDGP representative, Mathany was an outsider. No doubt he paid the price by losing his seat, though narrowly. Raymond Desa (SGF) probably took away his votes, as both UDGP and SGF are supported by the Christians. The lure of a ministerial post is hard to resist for many politicians. The Christians who are fighting on the BJP tickets cannot be termed pointblank as saffronites. I doubt Mathany subscribed to the BJP ideology but has embraced the party as a political neccessity. Whether he erred or not will only be known when the results are out. Among the candidtes Mathany holds more personal rapport with the people. If this rapport brings him the neccessary votes to transplant him back into the assembly will be known after March 6. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Between the Lines @ Gallery Gitanjali , Ssn.2:Revisiting History through the Historical Sagas of Amitav Ghosh - The Glass Palace
Gallery Gitanjali invites you to the second session of Between the Lines - A Forum to explore words and verse at Gallery Gitanjali to be held on 2ndMarch, 2012 at 6:30 p.m. The first session of the series 'Revisiting History through the Historical Sagas of Amitav Ghosh’, had facilitator Jugneeta Sudan taking us through his latest book,River of Smoke”. During the second session we will explore “The Glass Palace”. Set in the turn of the millennium, the novel unfolds in 1885 with two orphans in war prone Mandalay- Burma and retells 100 odd years of history weaving in and out of Burma, India and Malaysia. We shall visit the book threefold - The historical setting of the title, the story within the story and the book in the contemporary setting. *Revisit history in all its richness through readings, analysis, movie excerpts and a presentation.* Registration fees: Rs.200/- To register call/mail us at 9823572035 / gallerygitanj...@gmail.com Gallery Gitanjali, Opp.Panjim Inn, Next to People's High School, Fontainhas, Panjim, Goa-403001 -- Thanks Regards Miriam Koshy Gallery Gitanjali E-212,31st January Road, Fontainhas,Panjim, Goa-403001 India www.gallerygitanjali.com 00919823572035 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Art Exhibition: DIFFERENT (Curtorim, Goa)
Thanks for the forward Lavina Dcosta -Original Message- From: Goanet A-C-E! [mailto:goa...@goanet.org] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:29 AM To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: Art Exhibition: DIFFERENT (Curtorim, Goa) DIFFERENT, 'An art exhibition with a difference' was inaugurated on the Feb 11, 2012 at Arco Iris, Curtorim and shall remain open to the public daily until Feb 17, 2012 (10am-8pm). There are over 40 paintings of different genres, styles, mediums and colours. The exhibition brings together under one beautiful Goan roof, portraits, modernism, surrealism, impressionism and abstracts. One will not only find a contrast of colours, but also contrasts of works and styles. 'DIFFERENT' is an effort to have something for everyone who walks in as different people have different tastes. The most fascinating paintings that will grab your attention are the ones painted by Alex Rodrigues who paints with his bare fingers and nails. This talented Mumbai based artist of Goan origin is globally known as a finger painter and has had his exhibitions in Europe and other countries. There is a huge collection of his finger painted Christs which would certainly make you wonder how could someone paint it without a brush. The other artists who have displayed their artwork are Liberetta Rodrigues, Deepak Bellary, Mona Astha, Nikkita Jain, Sunil Pawle and Meena. If you are an art lover, this exhibition is a must visit. Source: Millisha Silveira Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment www.goanet.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa leader's pals: Russian mafia
Goa leader's pals: Russian mafia ibnlive.in.com CNN-IBN has bared the nexus between former Goan minister, Babush Monserrate and the Russian land mafia. http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/41610/goa-leaders-pals-russian-mafia.html This is an old video. The issue was simply swept under the carpet. No action taken. No investigations carried out whatsoever. So much for Goa being a democracy. The concerned Minister involved in these gross irregularities and illegal land conversions has now been rewarded with two tickets to contest the forthcoming elections( + 4 more for his cronies). A license to loot and destroy Goa. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Rutuj bags 'Jyothi Panvelkar Memorial Award'
The 'Jyothi Panvelkar Memorial Award, an award instituted by Panjim Table Tennis Club in the fond memory of former Table Tennis Player Jyothi Panvelkar, was won by Rutuj Sonawane, a promising youngster who is currently a State seeded player in the cadets category. The Award was presented to him by Mr. Kirit Maganlal of Magsons Group in the presence of Panjim TT Club office bearers Chetan Kavlekar(President), Sandeep Heble(Secretary), Ajit Ghantker(Advisor) and others at a function held at Indoor Stadium, Campal, Panaji. The talented youngster is presently undergoing coaching under the guidance of Subhash Kolwalkar. Pic: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418897_3286736325721_1187066172_3362843_2002476358_n.jpg yours sincerely Sandeep Heble Secretary, Panjim Table Tennis Club 9326129171 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Good Days for Panjim are coming.
CCP Mayor Yatin Parekh is contesting the elections from the Panjim constituency. This is excellent news. This means at least for the next 20 days, he will be busy with his campaign and will no longer be controlling the administration of the CCP. After a gap of almost a year of misrule and scams, irregularities, loot and corruption happening under his very eyes and ears and nose, the Corporation of the City of Panaji(CCP) is finally in the hands of the Commissioner Agnelo Fernandes who is both a hard-worker and an able administrator and not just a sweet-talker. The good days for Panjim are coming! Sandeep Heble Panaji-Goa --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Case filed against Valanka - OHeraldo Today
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=3450boxid=25116218uid=dat=2/16/2012 *Case filed against Valanka * MARGAO: Margao police has registered a non- cognizable case against Valanka Alemao following a complaint lodged by the Editor- in- Chief of GoaChronicle. com. A case under section 506( ii) of the IPC against Valanka after the Editor- in- chief Savio Rodrigues alleged that she criminally intimidated and threatened him with dire consequences over the phone and also allegedly threatened to cause harm to his daughters in connection with his investigations into the Keith Vaz issue. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: 1: I doubt Mathany subscribed to the BJP ideology but has embraced the party as a POLITICAL NECESSITY 2: The Christians who are FIGHTING on the BJP tickets cannot be termed pointblank as saffronites. . COMMENT: Is Eugene Correia stating then that Matanhy Saldanha is doing a Mesquita i.e. shameless political opportunism? re #2: I wonder if CONTESTING would be a better word than the patracar word, FIGHTING. A point worth mulling over: It matters little whether a party is 'saffron' or 'green'; once it is a central party as with the Kangress or BhojjePee, the line dictated from Delhi will have to be toed in Goa. Let us not forget that old and new bandicoots are savouring the prospect of the gnawing at Goa while we are jumping up and down here. Between the armadas and the politicos, Goa continues to be ripped while the Hebles and the Mendonzas of this world specialise in pointing fingers away from the political outfit they so blindly supportalmost certainly, for COMMUNAL reasons. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF
Those who are puzzled as to why Marshall is now abusing me and bearing false witness against me, let me assure you that it is because he has realized that he cannot refute the evidence that I have provided for the fact that the Catholic-Christian Secular Forum is not a secular forum at all, but a religious propaganda outfit like Hindu Janajagruti Samiti. I have shown that CSF organizes mass campaigns and protests, and issues veiled or overt threats of violence to ban art and literature just like HJS. It also promotes hatred against homosexuals for religious reasons. To find out for yourself if there are any other similarities between the two religious organizations in terms of religious propaganda and promotion of hatred, please check their websites below: http://www.thecsf.org/home.html http://www.hindujagruti.org/ I have also explained why it is understandable that as devout religious chauvinists both Sandesh and Marshall would resort to angry abusive outbursts on Goanet because of perceived or imagined threats against the religio-political worldviews that they hold dear to their hearts - Sandesh against the Church and Marshall against someone like me. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message As a sangh parivar (hindutva) apologist/sympathiser, Santosh's response was on expected lines. One can let one's imagination run riot and come to as many conclusions as one desires.Helping women in distress come out of prostitution can in no way be said to constitute anti-hindu sentiments as Santosh would like to mislead us and give a communal flavour. .. It is my view that we see communal reactions like that of Sandesh and Santosh and others is due to the fact that we have not been exposed enough to the religious texts, practices and traditions of other religions. Had we been so, this particular report would not have attracted the kind of response that we saw. Regards, Marshall --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Dan Driscoll on colds
. I suffered from persistent colds for years with - as you describe - that yucky mucus(y) feeling in the throat and constant well-meaning instructions by all and sundry No chilled drinks, no icecreams etc etc. Some months ago I was visiting my son in Dubai and his domestic help saw my condition and gave me the following remedy for which I will thank her for the rest of my days. Squeeze one lemon in three-fourths cup of warm water, add a tablespoon of honey and a pinch of salt, stir well and drink on waking up in the morning on an empty stomach. Breakfast may follow in half an hour. I never suffered from a cold again and also, it energises me for the rest of the day. Diabetics need to consult their doctors due to the honey content. Bernice Pereira --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Well, I should think that all this is plain and simple logic that even a primary school kid will know. Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP Mathany's choice to official join BJP is perhaps because, if he wins, he can be an important part of the government. As a UDGP representative, Mathany was an outsider. No doubt he paid the price by losing his seat, though narrowly. Raymond Desa (SGF) probably took away his votes, as both UDGP and SGF are supported by the Christians. The lure of a ministerial post is hard to resist for many politicians. The Christians who are fighting on the BJP tickets cannot be termed pointblank as saffronites. I doubt Mathany subscribed to the BJP ideology but has embraced the party as a political neccessity. Whether he erred or not will only be known when the results are out. Among the candidtes Mathany holds more personal rapport with the people. If this rapport brings him the neccessary votes to transplant him back into the assembly will be known after March 6. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] KONANK AMI HAD'DEA NIVDUM?
KONANK AMI HAD'DEA NIVDUM? Rochnar bapan sobit-sundorGoem hadllem rochun, Bore torem rakhonn tachi korpak mhaka-thuka dilo dad’dun, Goenche bore torem seve khatir ami amcho serkar hadlo goddun, Godlelea serkaran xetam-battam hadllim borum, Panchve dongor minachea navan udoille kapun, Ranam,zaddam-peddam khaillim chorun, Serkaran hadillea ganearea kharkaneanim povitr udok udoillem pid’dear korun, Dorea dego podtat modun, Nodi amchea gheleo Kusun, Avchit bond zallem zorintllean udok hevchem vanvun, Svarti mhonis ami kitle darun, Goenchea saibak sud’da chintlo divunk Vinkum, Zori mot amchem ami marnant chintum, Ami amchea gharant podtelle sandun, Uril’lli goenchi girestkai fudlle pilge khatir salvar korunk, KONANK AMI HAD'DEA NIVDUM? Joel Morais P.O.Cuncolim, Bencleamvaddo, Salcette,Goa. Mob -9970561727 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Plight Of The Goan Voter
The plight of the Goan Voter Since the first elections in 1963, the quality of Goan polity has only deteriorated and at present it is at its worse. Goans are frustrated with all that is happening and most of them have finally realized that they themselves are to be blamed for the plight of Goa and Goans today. It looks like the whole wide world knows what’s good for Goa and Goans barring Goans themselves, isn’t that ironical ? First it was Delhi who annexed Goa, then Mumbai wanted Goa to come under its ambit, then the butcher of Gujarat thought he could influence Goans and now even the Bongs think they know what’s good for Goa. It’s now high time we Goans realized what’s really good for us. Political institutions were suppose to be virtuous, with a sane ideology of, welfare of land and its people before anything else but the greed for power and money, has turned politics into a cesspool of indignity and corruption with neither respect nor dignity associated with it. The sanctity or the divinity that was hyphenated with politics at its inception has long been detached and replaced by malevolence and deceit and today anxiety has indeed replaced anticipation, as political ambitions have diabolically magnified well beyond the point of distortion and as such Goans are seeking a way out of this quandary. After two decades of pro-Maharashtra bias dynastic rule of the MGP, Goans saw a ray of hope when the Congress became a force in Goa but unfortunately three decades down the line Goans are gasping and struggling for their very survival, sinking deeper in the quicksand of corruption, pseudo-secularism, communalism, environmental degradation and nepotism. Unfortunately the short stint of the BJP did more damage than good, in their attempt to influence the majority community for the sake of the “chair”, for the first time brought communal disharmony in Goa which nearly led to confrontation and violence, which did not help its cause. Everyone, young and the old today know that the Congress in Goa is fully drenched and entrenched in corruption and to accelerate the momentum even further, it has now opted for “Family Raj” politics, so that just a few families holding on to the power reins of Goa can gallop away to monetary glory, leaving Goa and Goans in shambles and in ruins. BJP on the other hand is playing the healer and pledges to dispel and despise the communal demons but unfortunately, they have embraced a part of the very corrupt sodality, the MGP, who had been on a corruption rampage with their old allies. The MGP knowing that Congress is a sinking ship have abandoned it and surprisingly BJP has embraced them with open arms, so what is the difference in the ideologies of the BJP and the Congress ? Taking a look at the BJP run states in India, it is very unfortunate that they too have been systematically infected by corruption, communalism and nepotism which proves that the BJP and the Congress are two sides of the same coin or at best, one worse than the other. Today as predicted, there are a lot of disgruntled elements who were seeking election tickets from the corrupt and communal parties but were disappointed and so now they are calling the pot black, beware of such hypocrites who are singing like canaries, the misdeeds of the very same parties they long supported and even aspired to be their candidates. Now, only when they were denied tickets they have realized the flaws and the misdeeds of their old parties, how very unfortunate ! The lack of principles in the two central parties, has put Goans in a fix, who is good and whom to vote ? Goans are looking for the sun to shine brightly over Goa, but how to clear the dark clouds and get that sunshine, this is the plight of the Goan voter today, as we near the voting day, do we still vote for the lesser evil or do we opt for communalism over corruption ? Or are we so frustrated that we finally want to get rid of both the corrupt and the communal ? As I said before Congress has amply demonstrated that they do not have the will nor the inclination to work for the welfare of Goa and Goans and the BJP is certainly not the substitute for the ills propagate by themselves and the Congress. We have a lot of options, good candidates, excluding the disgruntled angry one who were not given tickets by the two central parties. Vote for candidates who will fight to save what’s left of our beloved Goa. Elect those candidates who really love Goa but in all earnest, to save Goa we need to love Goa first, do we truly love Goa ? If we do, let’s vote to save Goa. Goa jai ho ! --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa elections 2012 - Results (Predictions)
As of now (16.2.12), the predictions are like this BJP 17 Cong 13 MGP 2 NCP 2 GVP 2 IND 3 Others 1 BJP likely to form govt with MGP 2 and IND 2 making total strength 21 Next update by 24th Feb Last year, the results were like this INC 16 BJP 14 NCP 03 MGP 02 SGF 02 UGDP 01 IND 02 Others 0 joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Bridge collapsed along with 5 loaded trucks
Bridge collapsed at Codli mines 4 year old Bailey Bridge collapsed with five loaded mining trucks. The bridge was meant for used one truck at a time but it appears Safety norms were not followed and the bridge caved in due to Overload (upto 5 times more than permissible load) Codli, Dabal, Ponda Goa on 15/2/2012 Mines and the bridge belonging to Sesa Goa blog http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.in/2012/02/bridge-collapsed-at-codli-mines.html Don't be safety blinded, be safety minded. Always, safety first Some pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888412439/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888415659/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888418293/sizes/l/in/photostream/ one truck lifted http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888421795/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888424861/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888427551/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888435849/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888438689/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888429981/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888432375/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888441135/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888438689/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888443867/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888448423/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888453311/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888450571/sizes/l/in/photostream/ A mini dam http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888455667/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Notice at the bridge which they not followed http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk49/6888459255/in/photostream/ blog http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.in/2012/02/bridge-collapsed-at-codli-mines.html video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTjzwmhP7yU joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Hindutva Lab 2.0 ... (Tehelka on Karnataka)
Hindutva Lab 2.0 BJP-ruled Karnataka is on a dangerous path of radicalisation. Rana Ayyub traces the scary distortion of an entire society PHOTO: Long march RSS members take part in the Hindu Shakti Sangama in Hubli Photo: Karnataka News Images problems IS KARNATAKA the new Gujarat, the second laboratory of Hindutva for the BJP and the broader Sangh Parivar? As the BJP government in the state enters the final year of its first term in power -- it had earlier ruled in alliance with the JD(S) -- that disturbing question comes up again and again. Behind the morality and hypocrisy, the humbug and corruption that the BJP establishment in Bengaluru has been charged with is a harder, harsher truth: the scary distortion of an entire society. Two weeks ago, the so-called 'porngate' controversy rattled the country, when three BJP ministers were caught in the Assembly watching a pornographic clip -- later explained as the recording of a woman being raped -- while the House was in session and discussing poverty. While that controversy claimed the headlines, it also forced the RSS and its affiliates in the state to hurriedly cancel plans of the extended session of the Hindu Shakti Sangama. A Hindu show of strength, as the name implies, the Sangama was supposed to be held across the state after the opening convention in Hubli. Chief Minister DV Sadananda Gowda turned up in Hubli, wearing the RSS trademark khaki shorts -- perhaps the first time a chief minister has been seen thus clad at a public event. If pictures tell a story, this one spoke volumes of the saffronisation of Karnataka. The Sangama may have been interrupted by the Sangh Parivar, embarrassed and still recovering from the shame of porngate. Nevertheless, as TEHELKA travelled through Karnataka, spending a week journeying from urbane Bengaluru to northern and coastal Karnataka, what became apparent was that right-wing Hindu attacks on Muslims and Christians were now a regular feature. This reporter came back with accounts, incidents and testimonies that were so brazen, it was shocking. Take a small example. On 22 January, there was uproar in Uppanangadi, a hamlet near Mangalore. Kalladka Prabhakar Bhatt, a senior RSS leader known for his proximity to Sadananda Gowda and his predecessor BS Yeddyurappa, was addressing a crowd and resorted to extreme and undignified imagery. Lift the veils of Muslim women, Bhatt told the throng, and glimpse what they have to offer. His listeners cheered; policemen listened too, but strolled casually, as if nothing were happening. Soon after, the local minorities -- a mix of Muslim and Catholic organisations -- approached the police, which reluctantly filed an FIR against Bhatt. Yet it refused to arrest him, arguing there was no basis for taking him into custody. Rather, as if to compensate, the local police then filed an FIR against the president of the Muslim Central Committee, Mohammad Masood, under Section 153(a) of the Indian Penal Code -- Promoting communal enmity between classes -- as well as Section 505(2) -- Making statements that create or promote communal enmity. Two senior police officers have asked to be moved to Central government postings because they cannot take what is happening in the state What was Masood's fault? He had called a press conference to condemn Bhatt's despicable one-liner. When contacted, Mangalore SP Abhishek Goyal suggested that there were grey areas and the police would certainly study the case. While the police was still studying the footage of Bhatt's public meeting, the man himself inaugurated the new building of the Mangalore Police Commissionerate! Sitting with him in the VIP row was none other than the chief minister. It was the sort of moment and photo-op the media just waits for. Yet the presence of Bhatt so soon after the unseemly incident found no mention in the media coverage of the inauguration of the new building. It was almost as if there was a conspiracy of silence. Only one plucky local newspaper broke the Omerta: Karavali Ale. At one time, Karavali Ale was Karnataka's most popular newspaper. Part of the reason it is not any longer may have to do with the stance of its editor, BV Sitaram, who has been one of the few voices in the state warning against the rising tide of religious bigotry. For two decades, he has documented each and every communal incident, big and small, in the state -- and has suffered for it. In 2009, Sitaram was arrested when a case was filed against him for defamation. Twenty-five policemen turned up and surrounded him. It seemed like they had come to arrest a terrorist, he exclaims. His fault was he had written about the exploits of a local Bajrang Dal leader. Sitaram points to the newspapers stacked in his office. Picking up some of them at random, from the previous month's pile, almost every day one finds mention of an attack on Muslims and Christians, on churches and mosques. Sitaram is distraught: They go around shouting
[Goanet] final list of candidates
Taking a quick look at the Heraldo and Navhind Times report, I saw two errors. Herald says MGP has seven and Nahind says it has 5 but Navhind mentionas that the BJP-MGP alliance will contest in 35 constituencies. So, the Navhind report made an error, instead of 7 it said 5. Herald puts Su-raj party candidates as 1 and Navhind says 2. Is it that Heraldo did not count our own Floriano who is sanding in his own backyard :-( Joke aside, let's hear from you dear Floriano, this primary schoold kid' wa wants to know. Even parties that one rarely heard of have more candidates than the Su-raj party. Oh, I forgot, Su-raj rises in the west. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa news for February 17, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** 215 candidates in vie for 40 seats in Goa - Deccan Herald CP alliance will contest all the 40 seats with their main rivals the BJP and Maharashtrawadi Gomantak ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFUjyWv3f1kg6xEXJKxCNFVHp-r-Aurl=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/227783/215-candidates-vie-40-seats.html *** Can Keith Vaz campaign in Goa polls? - Hindustan Times rying-to-divide-Catholic-vote-Churchill/articleshow/11919803.cmsBJP trying to divide Catholic vote: Churchill http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH6Lu78jKqhHNuBpMUQcrQ1YRf_fQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Can-Keith-Vaz-campaign-in-Goa-polls/Article1-812608.aspx *** Goa polls: 215 candidates in fray for 40 seats - Zee News e NewsPanaji: A total of 215 candidates, nine of them women, are in the fray for 40 Assembly seats in Goa which goes to the polls on March 3. Election Commission officials said 62 nomination forms were either rejected or withdrawn, leaving 215 candidates in ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNET_N6D2u-Ur4Ulx7JYV_-0-eS6eQurl=http://zeenews.india.com/state-elections-2012/goa/goa-polls-215-candidates-in-fray-for-40-seats_758870.html *** Review of the Grand Hyatt Goa - The Hindu n_z-ZeMand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGodQkeqVVcpfJT3pktXd1Q7T654Aurl=http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/leisure/article2899360.ece *** Self-proclaimed Goa Robinhood Jose lopes to contest polls - Indian Express heeter-No-I-am-Robin-Hood/articleshow/11906881.cms'History sheeter? No, I am Robin Hood' http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGFFn8GZ-04Jl0e9sF0lOK62YDDVQurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/selfproclaimed-goa-robinhood-jose-lopes-to-contest-polls/912841/ *** Will Goa's voters sweep out corruption this election? - Times of India 2NgehM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGE79uq4gtFHiXlB7NxydJdjGpwxQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Will-Goas-voters-sweep-out-corruption-this-election/articleshow/11919866.cms *** 5 Star Beach Hotel in Goa Bags Prestigious Award - MarketWatch (press release) Goa Marriott Resort Spa has gained yet another feather in its cap by bagging the coveted award for 'Best International Hotel Chain in Goa' at the first edition of the Business Goa Awards for ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFvVjgN_uAm3jQlx1tYREpjRew5LAurl=http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-star-beach-hotel-in-goa-bags-prestigious-award-2012-02-16 *** Team Anna members to visit Goa from Feb 28 - Times of India mes of IndiaTeam Anna's core group members Arvind Kejriwal and Kiran Bedi will make a trip to Goa as part of their visits to the poll bound states. Goa representative in the IAC national committee Dinesh Vaghela said, as Anna Hazare is receiving medical attention, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF6nAB-TuIW4_rtpJoknmgprgt43wurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Team-Anna-members-to-visit-Goa-from-Feb-28/articleshow/11919821.cms *** Goa elections: Goa politicians find party song in 'Kolaveri Di' - Economic Times nglish number are propping up party messages. The BJP was first off the blocks with its ditty: Tujem mot komlavari di (cast your vote for the lotus). 'Di', which means 'give' in Konkani, pitches it perfectly.a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNErfSiGjkeEtAC_TVRC4qKy3exVvQurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/goa-elections-goa-politicians-find-party-song-in-kolaveri-di/articleshow/11910095.cms *** Ban mining in Goa, Ratnagiri: Expert panel - Times of India mN4uM http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEBY33DXFhPGx3V8JOogXQPOnhpjgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ban-mining-in-Goa-Ratnagiri-Expert-panel/articleshow/11919100.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
To Goanet -
Pandu-bab,
Which quote of mine are you referring to? As you surely know,
I have more than a few quotes on the subject.
You see, there was Goa, this tiny dot on the Indian map. And
they couldn't leave it untouched. They had to come in and muck
it up and bring the blight of Bihar, UP, Orissa, Delhi, etc etc with
them. The coarseness of the Dilliwallah and the paan-spit-sh*t
culture of the bhaiyya.
A house that is built for 10 people cannot accommodate 100,
unless you live like a slumdog. This is what Goa is beginning to
be turned into. And they wave the constitution at us (when they
are not preening about 'cosmopolitanism' - yeah, go do your
cosmo thing in W Bengal, fella).
In 2006 when I first started speaking out on the migrant deluge
from both ends of the spectrum, many of my old time friends in Goa
simply looked askance. Today, they are all riled up about the
situation, and you can guess why. The sh*t has finally come to
their doorstep. Before that they couldn't be bothered.
By the way, Pandu-bab, speak your mind freely without all those
disclaimers about you not being against this or that group. The
fellows who climb the high moral horse and sermonize would like
nothing better than shutting you up through guilt or embarrassment.
Most Goans privately complain about what is happening to Goa
but are reluctant to go on the record.
(No longer related to the discussion: The correct spelling is 'Matanhy' not
Mathany.)
r
Pandu Lampiao wrote:
Am still trying to find your quote Senor Parrikar on the 'green'
community' as it is very pertinent in the current election
'discussion'. Kindly do share. Maybe it will sink in the second-time
around. My observation is one cannot give an accurate account on life in Goa
amidst free-flowing garbage if you wake up with the tavern-owners and
tiatrists (these f*ks who still sing of sobit amchi Gova). None of
these {are they blind?) have woken in time to take a bus ride from
Titan (majority on this g-net would not know where that is) to Vascu.
The bus ride would be a real eye-opener for a change and if you hear a
word of your beloved Concani (while on the bus), you should faint.
Really, f*k the drama. Ones heart bleeds when you see some unknowing
Goichi getting on the bus and trying to converse in Concani, they know
no other language! And one reads on the g-net about the conviction of
some retarded f*cks wants to save Goa ya? Huh? The 'greening'
of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you
said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any
community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Starting with the minarets
of Titan (their plans or have already acquired the land stretching
from Titan to that cop-a factory). Then there is the slum, which has
slowly turning green, as a vote bank for a certain 'politician'. That
is were the m*drasa is and if you pass by on any weekend, the cement
and paint is still wet, thank you election time. Note for the
real-estte inv^stors: going price for a casa-in-the
slum, 1500k + rupiya!!! Then on to the port town.
which brings the ambiance of M*hammed
A^li road (in Mumbai)if you ever opened your eyes to goings on in
'green gettos', everything contrary to what any civil society would
want, from crime, to little bands of crooks. One could go on but why
bother. Last week, a 'green' festival march/parade in Vascu gave an accuracate
estimate to locals how the demographic has changed and is changing. If
you heard the demands on local tvee last night, they want 4 reserved
seatsthe gao of Murm, Santa Cruz-Chimbel, Ponda and Fatorda (they
already have). Earlier, 'they' wanted Navelim. Am a little in shock
hearing that. But thats is the way it isto invade, multiply and
wreck...or is it hatching, matching and dispatching? To clarify again,
this is not against any religious groups nor do I
belong to a religious group.
---
Protect Goa's natural beauty
Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve
Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php
---
Re: [Goanet] final list of candidates
I just love to needle you some, Eugine dear. Because you react in the manner that I expect you to react. And No. Su-Raj does not rise (yet) in the WEST nor in the North and neither in the South, and of course definately not in the EAST. It has left that sector for the Bengal Tigress who is assisted by the Saligao Kolo. Su-Raj is containing it rising (take-off) power and building up so that it will rise in all the above sectors all at once. And the launching pad will be floriano's back-yard. :-) Whatever list that has been declared , the true picture is that Goemchea Rakhondarancho Awaz (GRA) + Goa Su-Raj Party (GSRP) has two candidates. One in Aldona and one in Taleigao. If you remember, floriano has put into fixed-deposit 206 votes in Taleigao in 2005. Now is the time to get those back with interest @ 3 to 4 percent per month, the interest rate that Babush Monserrate charges for his loans. Annabelle Pereira should be going around with a larger bag. And floriano's fixed deposit account of Aldona in 2007 is 433 which again with not 3-4 per cent per month but 6 per cent per month should be cashed in by Julius Pereira. BTW the two Pereiras are no relatives just in case you think they are husband and wife combination. :-)) Cheers floriano goasuraj . - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:42 AM Subject: [Goanet] final list of candidates Taking a quick look at the Heraldo and Navhind Times report, I saw two errors. Herald says MGP has seven and Nahind says it has 5 but Navhind mentionas that the BJP-MGP alliance will contest in 35 constituencies. So, the Navhind report made an error, instead of 7 it said 5. Herald puts Su-raj party candidates as 1 and Navhind says 2. Is it that Heraldo did not count our own Floriano who is sanding in his own backyard :-( Joke aside, let's hear from you dear Floriano, this primary schoold kid' wa wants to know. Even parties that one rarely heard of have more candidates than the Su-raj party. Oh, I forgot, Su-raj rises in the west. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Arrival of mortal remains of Cypriano Fernandes funeral announcement
This is to inform everyone that the mortal remains of Cypriano Fernandes reached his home in Dongorim, Nuvem this morning, Friday, February 17, 2012. Funeral cortege will leave his residence for Jesus, Mary, Joseph Church, Nuvem on Saturday, February 18, at 3:30 pm. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna, Goa Mob: 9420979201 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Is that why no Goan is interested in working for SPECIAL STATUS FOR GOA and ultimately, when the slumifying India starts disintegrating, to make Goa an independent NATION?? All hands are up??? Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa Pandu lampioa wrote: The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Dear Pandu, If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian strongholds. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Modern medicine
J. Colaco responded to: 3) (a) Rest assured that when a new drug is approved, it will work better than any existing drug. (b) Drug approval can, and will be withdrawn when the drug use results in unnecessary deaths. RESPONSE: My dear Mervyn, [1] Except for # 3(a) above, I agree with you; -- Doc, I guess this is the difference between having general knowledge of a subject and having everyday exposure to the same. I have no doubts that you have witnessed new drugs producing ineffective results. I would think that these drugs would be few and far between, but I leave that judgement to you. The bottom line is that I have no problems accepting FDA approved drugs. I am convinced that the best minds have worked together to produce the same. Mervyn2012 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] TAG Book Releases
TAG Konkani Book Releases The Tiatr Academy of Goa released three Konkani books at the hands of Fr Manuel Gomes at their conference hall on February 16, 2012. The books include Oxem Ghoddlem by Daniel F de Souza, Mummy, Mhaka Tuje Vengent Dhor (a Tiatr) by Albert Leo de Souza and Lokam Khell by Vitorino Pereira. L-R: Victor D'Sa, Vincy Quadros, Tomazinho Cardozo, Fr Manuel Gomes, Albert Leo and Daniel F de Souza. Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52243088@N00/6889936197/in/photostream/ Daniel's Konkani Book Oxem Ghoddlem Vasco-based writer Daniel F de Souza and his happy family after the launching of his firth book Oxem Ghoddlem at the Tiatr Academy of Goa, Panjim, on February 16, 2012. The 88-page book has almost 35 popular Konkani stage artistes recounting some interesting life experiencies which happened in their acting careers. Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52243088@N00/6889936739/in/photostream/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF
I am surprised that Marshall did not accuse me of being a hinduvta apologist - after all, my opinions were in line with those of Santosh's. I think we can all agree that the CSF is a communal organization that seeks to promote what it sees as a christian point of view by projecting its views as being superior to those of competitor religions. Many on the receiving end would consider this to be abusive and denigrating. I say, it is free speech - a right that needs to be protected. Ironically, the CSF itself wishes to trample on the rights of others who disagree with its principles as was the case with movies like the Da Vinci Code, or the rights of gays and homosexuals. I would agree with Marshall that the CSF cannot be compared to the Sangh Pavivar due the latter's role in violence against minorities. However, a quick peek at the CSF's website gives a very clear insight to its fundamentalist and intolerant tone. Perhaps the lack of violence from the CSF is more due to its lack of ability than intent. Is the CSF secular? Hell no. It should rename itself to the CCF, the Christian Communal Forum. Marlon From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India's temple prostitutes | The CSF As a sangh parivar (hindutva) apologist/sympathiser, Santosh's response was on expected lines. One can let one's imagination run riot and come to as many conclusions as one desires.Helping women in distress come out of prostitution can in no way be said to constitute anti-hindu sentiments as Santosh would like to mislead us and give a communal flavour. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
