[Goanet] Fwd: Song for the day....

2012-07-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
Engelbert 
Humperdinckhttp://www.youtube.com/artist/Engelbert_Humperdinck?feature=watch_video_title
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Love is a many splendored thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6G3L3jOSpUfeature=related

g



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] NoMoZo .3 with Goa Governnor

2012-07-16 Thread JoeGoaUk

NoMoZo 3
With Goa Governor Bharat Vir Wanchoo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7580941186/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7580937132/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7580939132/in/photostream/

 also seen in ths clip at 3.20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYmQnraHHTY
 

quote:


3rd Editon of NoMoZo
18th June Road, Panaji
15th  July 2012

Drumming 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573517396/in/photostream


Karate Kids
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573524890/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573519710/in/photostream/


Street Play
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573522576/in/photostream/

cycling
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573527954/in/photostream/


Football
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573529914/in/photostream/


Crowd
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7573532048/in/photostream/



Video Clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYmQnraHHTY


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc 


[Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread manuel tavares
Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of Goans in the 
Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both Portuguese and British).
It would be pertinent to mention that Goans were respected and liked, more, by 
the African than other Members of the Indian communities. Perhaps being 
subjects of a cruel and intolerant Portuguese ruler, made us more sympathetic 
to African aspirations. It is therefore not lost that people like the Late Pio 
De Gama Pinto was a stalwart in fighting for African Aspiration. And the 
African response to his contribution was to assassinate him. This is what one 
gets in return. There are other Goans as well who sacrificed and contributed to 
the emancipation and eventual independence of Africa like J.M. Nazareth, and 
'Gandhi' Pereira and many others. To say that the African was ungrateful for 
such stellar contributions would be an understatement.

Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them well paying them 
at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other Indian communities almost 
always tried to circumvent the minimum wage and treated the African poorly. 
This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not be distinguished from 
other Indians due to the similar colour of our skins. We were therefore labeled 
with all the rest as 'Muindi'  (Indian). Therefore when retribution came, we 
lost mainly due to skin colour similarities. Having worked in the civil service 
in Africa, and dealing with many Africans of various tribes, I can truly say 
that we treated the African fairly and administered our duties to the best of 
our ability. To say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we sometimes had 
to look danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human beings. To say 
that Goans were fair, one has only to see why the corruption in Africa is so 
rampant. It is the Indian who introduced it there and perpetuated its 
existence. Goan people who worked disbursing amounts to Africans in remote 
areas were honest and god fearing. Some Indians doing the same jobs often 
cheated the illiterate African and some of them even took bribes to perform 
tasks such as replacements of lost ID's (Kipande) etc. May be others have 
opinions on this and I leave it up to them.


Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares


[Goanet] Industrial blackmail - or Marlon's hypocricy?

2012-07-16 Thread SOTER

Marlon wrote:
Talk about having your cake and wanting to eat it hypocrisy. Soter claims 
to be against the mining interests, but yet, wants employment to be created 
by the very same industry. If we want Goa to be less dependent on mining, 
then, let them layoff their staff and let us see what happens.


Response:
Wonderful projection or rationalisation as one may call it. An apt Konkani 
adage for Marlon's hypocrisy if understood; hanv chor zalear mhozo maimcho 
bhavui chor.  What employment are you talking about and for whom Mr.? How 
come Goa has the highest number of local unemployed as per a news report 
recently? Almost every plateau has been covered by industry destroying the 
water catchment areas then why are Goans migrating for jobs?
-Soter 



[Goanet] Soccer awards

2012-07-16 Thread Nelson Lopes
P.C.Trust
The Trust announces two new SOCCER awards for the  students of High schools
of Chinchinim. It endeavours to recognise talents and encourage excellence
CRCC is credited for being cradle and nursery for the footballers of
Chinchinim and for contributing renowned footballers to the  soccer map of
Goa and India
The student must have participated at village, state National level in the
game.The school must also have an official team
*Eng Filipe Nery Rodrigues*  award of interest on Rs 25000=.It was
instituted on 16 th.Dec.2011 to mark the grand celebrations of 60
th anniversary of the foundation of the club He has been the President of
the club and instrumental for its development and progress. He served as an
Hon`ble Minister Govt. of Goa
*Mr Constance Fernandes*, Managing Director of Costy Services has also
instituted an award on interest of  Rs2500o= since 20  th   April 2012. The
conditions are same stated above Mr Constance has represented the club,
school and College in football and athletics with distinction As an member
of Chinchinim Deussua Panchayat, he is making waves in his indomitable
style of dedication and passion for social commitment
Nelson Lopes
Chairman
P.C.Trust
Chinchinim


[Goanet] Parivartan: Will the rule of the stick also come to Goa?

2012-07-16 Thread SOTER
Gujarat students caned for complaining against mid-day meal delay


Vadodara: As many as 47 students of a government primary school at Brahmanvasi 
village in Gujarat were allegedly beaten up by their woman teacher for raising 
voice against delay in getting mid-day meals, police said on Sunday.

The incident came to light on Saturday after Jayantibhai Somabhai, guardian of 
one of the students, lodged a police complaint against the teacher, identified 
as Bela Patel, at Padra police station.
More at .
http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/gujarat-students-caned-for-complaining-against-mid-day-meal-delay-243716


Re: [Goanet] Konkani's first free audio novelette ... Khand by Willy Goes

2012-07-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Seby, Thanks for your feedback and comments. For those who might not
know, CIIL at Mysore is the Central Institute of Indian Languages [
http://www.ciil.org/] and Seby is one of Goa's young men doing useful work
there in the field of Konkani. Seby, please share more on Konkani and CIIL
via Goanet sometime, as readers here too would be more than interested in
knowing.

While I don't challenge your expertise in this field, I'd like to state a
few points from my own understanding and perspective:

For political and strategic reasons it may be fine to deny the existence of
diversity of script and dialect in Konkani; but are these really as
non-existent as made out to be? I have experience in teaching my two kids
Konkani in the Devanagari script, and realise that BOTH script and dialect
make it far more difficult for me to use. It is not just that the script is
different, but together with the script goes a certain dialect and point of
view. Some day I will illustrate this point with excerpts from their text
books. The denial of such differences only makes things worse in my view...
because it places the onus on the party doing the complaining.

Theoretically, spoken Konkani should be script-neutral. But is this the
case?

Would anyone say, to shift gears slightly, that English speakers use
exactly the same language regardless which part of the world they come
from? Even the Brazilians and Portuguese won't agree on this, though I
agree in such cases the issue isn't script, but geography. (For that
matter, isn't script tied up with geography too, even in a tiny place like
Goa? Of course, there are pockets spread out all over...)

Devanagari invariably (or most often) gets linked to the Antruzi dialect,
which is being restructured somewhat to incorporate more diversity, but not
enough. Meanwhile, Romi is mostly tied to Bardezi. Sashti, though popular
in speech and widely used in its parts, doesn't seem to have too much in
written form for reasons I've not understood... maybe hegemony-building
within Catholics.  Canacona and Pednem dialects are largely orphaned or
snobbishly looked down upon. And so on. I remember a Konkani conference in
Pernem, somewhere in the 1980s, where organisers made it a point to use
their own 'boli' (dialect) to make their speeches. In those days, the
script issue was pushed largely under the carpet, of course.

You are citing the examples of minority communities who might choose to
adopt the dialect of the community around them (Catholics in the 'new
conquests' or Hindus in Salcete). While this is true, it doesn't deny the
existence of differences at the level of script and dialect... which, I
feel, we need to acknowledge if Konkani is to have a chance to grow and
expand.

Before Prof Borges et al pounce on me, let me say that it is not my
intention to convert this into a Romi-versus-Devanagari debate. I'm just
taking it forward in the spirit of a polite debate. FN

PS: Just a couple of questions -- (i) do you acknowledge the existence of
different dialects among Konkani speakers, which use somewhat differing
vocabularies and external influences? (ii) if you wouldn't like it to be
defined as below, would you feel it okay to say that the audio-book is
rendered in the Bardezi script?

PPS: When you say unite the Konkanis, I think a first crucial question
before this is whether our assumptions are based on
one-language-one-script-one-dialect approaches, or that of allowing a
thousand flowers bloom and acknowledging diversity of many scripts and
dialects within the Konkani language.

On 16 July 2012 05:07, Seby Fernandes goanet.refor...@bell.net wrote:.

 But I am very much upset with this line in this mail.
 ( It uses a vocabulary close to the spoken tongue that Romi-script users
 are familiar with)
 I don't know, why we want to classify and divide the Konkani speaking
 community with this script issue. Konkanis speak a Konkani language and
 there is no language which is based on any script. We have dialectal
 changes and not on language basis. Our vocabulary is same and there is no
 difference between the various communities of Konkani. Just have a glance
 at the Catholics living in Ponda, Canacona and Sanguem and the Hindus
 residing in Cuncolim and Majorda. You will see the difference, which will
 clear your doubts.
 We should rectify ourselves and try to unite the Konkanis and build a good
 and promising future for our generations to come.
 You may disagree with my views and thoughts, but I believe in what I say,
 as I have a base to defend my words too.
 recaad
 Seby Fernandes
 CIIL, Mysore.
 seby.shabbu at gmail.com


Re: [Goanet] Konkani's first free audio novelette ... Khand by Willy Goes

2012-07-16 Thread jose fernandes
Manadik Seby-bab,

( It uses a vocabulary close to the spoken tongue that Romi-script users
are familiar with) him utramni vachun tumi kiteak itle voir-sokol zale?
hantum voir-sokol zavpachem kaim nam. Ami jednam  there is no difference
between the various communities of Konkani oxem mhonntanv tednam ami amche
amkanch fottoytanv. Konn sangta Konknni loka modem bhed-bhav nam mhonn? Ami
tor soroll Gõychea Rajbhas Kaideacher nodor marlear, Konknni loka modim
koso forok asa to tumkam disun yetolo.

Konkanis speak a Konkani language and there is no language which is based
on any script oxem tumi mhonntat. Zalear Rajbhas Kaideant Konknni
som'bondan fokot 'Devnagori lipiecho' koso ul'lekh ailo tor?

We should rectify ourselves and try to unite the Konkanis and build a good
and promising future for our generations to come oxem tumi boroylam.
Hantum 'We' mhonntat te tumchea motan konnn ti mhaka khobor nam. Punn tumi
mhonntat te promannem Konknni mollar  kitem-i 'rectify' korpachem asa
zalear tem poilem 'Rajbhas Kaideachem bil 'rectify' zaunk zai, tea bilant
Konknniche Romi lipik-ui nitin suvat mellunk zai. Je meren hem zainam, te
meren Gõyant Konknni mollar Devnagori ani Romi Konknniam modim ji ubi futt
poddlea ti kednanch bhorun yevchi nam.

Tumi jea* CIIL-*ant vavurtat, thoimsor Konknniche Devnagori lipi xivay
Konknnichea yer lipiam khatir koslo vavr zata to tumi kollit korxeat?

Mog asum,
SALU  *  *


On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Seby Fernandes goanet.refor...@bell.netwrote:

 Dear Fredrick bab  Willy Goes bab,
 First and foremost- PORBIM.
 Its nice to see a new trend being set up in the history of Konkani
 language and literature. Kudos.
 But I am very much upset with this line in this mail.
 ( It uses a vocabulary close to the spoken tongue that Romi-script users
 are familiar with)
 I don't know, why we want to classify and divide the Konkani speaking
 community with this script issue. Konkanis speak a Konkani language and
 there is no language which is based on any script. We have dialectal
 changes and not on language basis. Our vocabulary is same and there is no
 difference between the various communities of Konkani. Just have a glance
 at the Catholics living in Ponda, Canacona and Sanguem and the Hindus
 residing in Cuncolim and Majorda. You will see the difference, which will
 clear your doubts.
 We should rectify ourselves and try to unite the Konkanis and build a good
 and promising future for our generations to come.
 You may disagree with my views and thoughts, but I believe in what I say,
 as I have a base to defend my words too.

 recaad
 Seby Fernandes
 CIIL, Mysore.
 seby.shabbu at gmail.com




[Goanet] Up north

2012-07-16 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

A post by my friend Thomas Pindelski -

http://pindelski.org/Photography/2012/07/14/up-north/



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[Goanet] Beaten stripped and burned with cigarettes...could this be coming to Goa soon?

2012-07-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
Beaten, stripped and burned with cigarettes for 45 minutes: Horrific video
of attack on young woman by mob of TWENTY sparks outrage after it was
posted on YouTube

   - Incident captured on video by passing journalist and film has caused
   outrage
   - Attack shows mob of at least 20 men pouncing on defenceless woman in
   Indian city
   - No one came to the assistance of the woman during the assault which
   reportedly lasted 30 minutes

By PHIL 
VINTERhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=authornamef=Phil+Vinter

*PUBLISHED:* 16:30, 15 July 2012 | *UPDATED:* 20:39, 15 July 2012

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A woman was left helpless in the hands of a mob of men who launched a
terrifying attack on her as she left a bar in India.

The late night incident in the city of Guwahati in the north of the country
has caused outrage, with people furious at the slow police response.

In the attack, which was captured on film by an off-duty journalist, a
group of at least 20 men can be seen running towards the victim before
grabbing her hair and pinning her to the ground.

Scroll down for video
 [image: Shocking: A video captured the horrific moment a woman in India
was set upon by a mob of at least 30 men in a city in India]

Shocking: A video captured the horrific moment a woman in India was set
upon by a mob of at least 30 men in a city in India
[image: Horrific: In the video the woman is pulled by the hair by the men
before being pinned to the ground, stripped and beaten]

Horrific: In the video the woman is pulled by the hair by the men before
being pinned to the ground, stripped and beaten

Shockingly no one comes to the assistance of the girl as she screams for
help with bystanders and shop owners remaining spectators as the drama
unfolds.

During the horrific ordeal, which reportedly lasted for 30 minutes, she is
beaten and stripped.

According to India
Todayhttp://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/guwahati-molestation-case-suspects-arrested/1/208277.html
 
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/guwahati-molestation-case-suspects-arrested/1/208277.htmlthe
police have come under fire for taking 45 minutes to respond, despite the
station being less than a mile away.

More...

   - Indian village bans marriages that have not received parental
   permission as raft of draconian measures are introduced against
womenhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173504/Talibanisation-rural-India-Village-bans-love-marriages-introduces-raft-draconian-measures-women.html
   - Pictured: Father who beheaded his daughter in rage over her
   relationships as he remains unrepentant over
attackhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161779/Pictured-Father-beheaded-daughter-rage-relationships-remains-unrepentant-attack.html
   - Indian man 'upset with daughter sleeping around' chops off her head
   with a sword and parades it round
villagehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161220/Indian-man-upset-daughter-sleeping-chops-head-sword-parades-round-village.html

A total of six men have so far been arrested in connection with the
incident but the police are under increasing pressure to catch the
remaining seven suspects.

Posters have gone up across the city and in an attempt to calm public anger
the Chief Minister for the Assam region Tarun Gogoi yesterday issued state
police with a 48-hour deadline to arrest the remaining suspects.

Some of the videos on YouTube show the identities of the men in a bid to
catch the culprits.

According to India Today, the reporter who shot the footage Mukul Kalita
said he had tried to assist the girl. He said: 'I got into the crowd, when
she saw me, she shouted out for help.

[image: Accused: Police have come under fire for their slow response to the
incident. Posters have now been put up across the city showing the faces of
the 13 suspects]

Accused: Posters have now been put up across the city showing the faces of
the 13 suspects as police have come under fire for their slow response to
the incident
[image: Latest incident: The attack happened in the city of Guwahati in the
region of Assam in the north of India]

Latest incident: The attack happened in the city of Guwahati in the region
of Assam in the north of India

'The people in the mob asked me why I was trying to save her. I called the
police and they told me they knew about the incident and that they were on
the way.'

Two people - Diganta Basumatary and Navajyoti Deka - have reportedly been
arrested today.

Earlier in the week Amarjyoti Kalita,  Dhanonjoy Basfor and Bulbul Das were
taken in by officers, the identify of the sixth man is yet to be released.

Prime accused Amarjyoti Kalita, however, is still at 

Re: [Goanet] the Loud Silencio of the Chaddiwallas in the brutal Mass Molestation of the young Assamese girl

2012-07-16 Thread J. Colaco jc
I note that the Women's NGO in Goa (Baillancho Saad) has rightly
condemned the senseless and brutal assault by the so called Moral
Police on the defenceless young Assamese girl.

This - in addition to the Loud Silencio on the forcing of a young
student to drink urine.

What kind of madness is this?

What. NO morchas and bandhs? No Poster competitions? No letters to
the Editor? No Chintak Baitak?

NO sermaos by (at least) the Politically alert padris?

NO reaction from the Bishop?

NO outrage from the converted Dantacho-Dotor?

NO statement from the MGP err Congress err MGP err Congress err BJP
Xri Doctorji?

NO NAATING or Wott?

I am relieved that at least o Senhor Anvilho de Sa (the self
proclaimed Goebell) from Inglaterra and Shri Docktor United Goan from
Baradi-Betul have had their say ... by way of their silence.

jc

http://www.navhindtimes.in/india-news/4th-arrest-girl-molestation-incident-assam-top-cop-flayed


Re: [Goanet] Indian campaign confronts prevalence of female foeticide | World news | guardian.co.uk

2012-07-16 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Aree Baba!
With all this infant female foeticide gathering momentum; there will be no more 
females left to serve or to be 'made to serve' as Devdasis! OMG! What will the 
Brahmin males then do? Be Brahmachari?
Societal Change for the Better or Worse?
 
Nascy Caldeira
 


 From: Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au
To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org 
Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2012 10:06 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Indian campaign confronts prevalence of female foeticide | 
World news | guardian.co.uk
  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/13/india-campaign-debate-female-foeticide


[Goanet] Amitabh Bachchan meets Valanka Alemao

2012-07-16 Thread Mayabhushan
Reportage? WTF is this?


http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/ENT-amitabh-bachchan-meets-valanka-alemao-3520739.html

Advocate Valanka Alemao is nowadays in news for her philanthropic work. In
a short span she has made immense contribution with her CSR activities, She
has been a part of many social awareness programs and had always stepped
with a charge to fight against the injustice.

Valanka met Amitabh Bachchan at the House of Commons a celebration for
Silver Star foundation. She was invited by the Member of Parliament Mr.
Kieth Vaz. Valanka was humbly taken by surprise wherein Bachchan praised
her for all her contributions made by her for the social work she had done
which made a huge difference.

Talking about the same, Valanka says, “Before I could converse with  Mr.
Bachchan and tell him how wonderful he was and how proud we all are, he
came forward and mentioned that he was completely impressed with  my
contribution to the society. I was glad to know that despite being an actor
of that big stature he is a wonderful humble human being. When he praised
and appreciated my work I was pleasantly taken aback with his extensive
knowledge on our workings and social activities .His persona is really
outstanding and his gesture was so kind and he promised me his full support
in the tasks undertaken by me as he personally believes in them for near
future.”

The other personalities present were England's Mr. Gordon Brown who also
appreciated Valanka’s activities for the society.



-- 
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1392, Anjuna, Bardez, Goa
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[Goanet] Tisrio

2012-07-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
a clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KN_hAi7xKk


[Goanet] Bailancho Saad condemns molestation

2012-07-16 Thread Sabina Martins
15th July 2012


PRESS RELEASE


Bailancho Saad strongly condemns the molestation of a minor girl by a mob
outside a pub in Guwahati and  lends its voice to  the nationwide demand to
arrest the culprits and give exemplary punishment

The increasing trend across the country to attack women is a serious cause
of concern and therefore demands from the governments, strong measures to
protect the rights of women.


The same kind of lumpen, hoodlum misbehavior was organized by Ram Sene in
Karnataka some time back where women were molested and assaulted in the
name of culture.


Bailancho Saad decries the Goa government’s response to the threat of Ram
Sene entering the state, which has made its intention clear about its
violent anti women culture. The Government's response in the Legislative
Assembly was that no one can prevent anyone from coming into the state.


Bailancho Saad questions the government as to whether they will follow the
same principle of allowing a gang of robbers,who have made their intention
public, to come to the state and commit burglaries? Will it then decide to
act after people are looted and murdered?


With no strong deterrent action against the perpetrators of crime and the
violators of law, they are becoming emboldened and brazenly vocal about
their threats. Is the Goa government waiting for the women to be molested
by Ram Sene men?


Bailancho Saad calls upon all women to equip themselves to deal with any
assault as the response time and action by the police is very slow. Women
have a right to self defence and can hit back where it hurts, the private
parts, to protect themselves.


Bailancho Saad  also strongly condemns  the Khap panchayat’ s decision to
ban use of  mobiles by girls and preventing women below 40 years to go out
to  the market . These objectionable decisions violate human rights  and
take away the hard won rights of women .


Bailancho Saad urges the people to  oppose and fight the regressive trends
surfacing  in the country in the name of culture as they  violate human
rights.



Sabina Martins

For Bailancho Saad


[Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Bernado Colaco
The text below kind of relates to what the mundas are upto in Goa since the 
invasion of 1961.
 
BC.

Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them well paying them 
at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other Indian communities almost 
always tried to circumvent the minimum wage and treated the African poorly. 
This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not be distinguished from 
other Indians due to the similar colour of our skins. We were therefore labeled 
with all the rest as 'Muindi'  (Indian). Therefore when retribution came, we 
lost mainly due to skin colour similarities. Having worked in the civil service 
in Africa, and dealing with many Africans of various tribes, I can truly say 
that we treated the African fairly and administered our duties to the best of 
our ability. To say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we sometimes had 
to look danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human beings. To say 
that Goans were fair, one has only to see why the corruption in Africa is so 
rampant. It is the Indian who
 introduced it there and
  perpetuated its existence. Goan people who worked disbursing amounts to 
Africans in remote areas were honest and god fearing. Some Indians doing the 
same jobs often cheated the illiterate African and some of them even took 
bribes to perform tasks such as replacements of lost ID's (Kipande) etc. May be 
others have opinions on this and I leave it up to them.


Re: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
The following is a summary of astory told to me ...
 
A young public prosecutor (procurador), newly-appointed to Guiné-Bissau after 
earning his degree in Lisbon, successfully prosecuted a white Portuguese man 
for having kicked a local man and broken his spine. The young prosecutor was 
later asked why he had taken the white man to task for kicking a black man, 
something that was apparently common in those days. He replied, 'A kick on any 
man is deplorable; but to kick so hard as to break someone's spine is 
murderous'. 
 
This young public prosecutor later rose to be a chief judge in Macau, for some 
10 years before Macau was handed over to China. Now retired, he still serves 
the Macanese people providing judicial advice as and when required, mostly in 
defending cases (the other side of prosecution:-) ). 
 
Needless to state he is Goan...
 
Regards,
 
Gabriel.



 From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org 
Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view
  
Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of Goans in the 
Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both Portuguese and British).
It would be pertinent to mention that Goans were respected and liked, more, by 
the African than other Members of the Indian communities. Perhaps being 
subjects of a cruel and intolerant Portuguese ruler, made us more sympathetic 
to African aspirations. It is therefore not lost that people like the Late Pio 
De Gama Pinto was a stalwart in fighting for African Aspiration. And the 
African response to his contribution was to assassinate him. This is what one 
gets in return. There are other Goans as well who sacrificed and contributed 
to the emancipation and eventual independence of Africa like J.M. Nazareth, 
and 'Gandhi' Pereira and many others. To say that the African was ungrateful 
for such stellar contributions would be an understatement.

Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them well paying 
them at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other Indian communities 
almost always tried to circumvent the minimum wage and treated the African 
poorly. This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not be distinguished 
from other Indians due to the similar colour of our skins. We were therefore 
labeled with all the rest as 'Muindi'  (Indian). Therefore when retribution 
came, we lost mainly due to skin colour similarities. Having worked in the 
civil service in Africa, and dealing with many Africans of various tribes, I 
can truly say that we treated the African fairly and administered our duties 
to the best of our ability. To say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we 
sometimes had to look danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human 
beings. To say that Goans were fair, one has only to see why the corruption in 
Africa is so rampant. It is the Indian who
 introduced it there and perpetuated its existence. Goan people who worked 
disbursing amounts to Africans in remote areas were honest and god fearing. 
Some Indians doing the same jobs often cheated the illiterate African and some 
of them even took bribes to perform tasks such as replacements of lost ID's 
(Kipande) etc. May be others have opinions on this and I leave it up to them.


Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares





[Goanet] Goan Catholic nun from Aldona made member of Rajasthan minorities panel

2012-07-16 Thread Cecil Pinto
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article3430795.ece

Catholic nun made member of Rajasthan minorities panel

In a first perhaps in the whole of North India, Rajasthan Government
has nominated a Catholic nun as a member of the State's Minority
Commission. Sister Mariola Sequeira, of the order of the Mission
Sisters of Ajmer (MSA), teaches English in Ajmer's prestigious Sophia
College, but she is known in the human rights circles as an “activist
nun”.

An active member of the People's Union for Civil Liberties (PUCL)
Rajasthan, the Mangalore-born Sister Mariola has been the State
coordinator of the Prison Ministry India (PMI) since 2004 and an NGO
member of the Grievance Committee on Sexual Harassment at the
Workplace at Central Jail, Ajmer. Trained in journalism as well, she
regularly writes for church publications and the Hong Kong-based news
service, UCAN. In March 2010, television news channel CNN-IBN chose
Sister Mariola for the “Real Heroes Award” for her work in
rehabilitating women prisoners. Her advocacy and campaign for six
years had resulted in the release of a mentally-ill prisoner from
Central Jail on January 25 last year, after 18 years of imprisonment.

“The activist friends are very happy about the appointment so are my
superiors in the Church and the convent. The first to ring me up and
congratulate were social activists Aruna Roy and Kavita Srivastava,”
said Sister Mariola talking to The Hindu from Ajmer. Former MLA
Mohammed Mahir Azad is the chairman of the Rajasthan Minorities
Commission. Along with Sister Mariola, the State Government has also
nominated Zuban Khan, Sardar Maninder Singh Bagga and a Buddhist
representative, Gurvant Rahul Chawda, to the Commission.

--- end of report --



The report above in The Hindu newspaper wrongly reports Sister Mariola
as being 'Mangalore-born'. I know Sister Mariola only in passing but
do know some of her siblings well. To the best of my knowledge the
family was in Mumbai for a while but shifted back to their ancestral
home in Corjuem, Aldona, in the late Nineteen Sixties. Sister
Mariola's father Joaquim Xavier Sequeira was an ex-Western Railways
officer and not only was involved in the St. Vincent de Paul Society
in Aldona but also did two stints as the Sarpanch of the Village
Panchayat. Her mother Agnes, also from Corjuem - a Castellino, was
active in the Legion of Mary, Bible Courses and local Church
activities.

Sister Mariola was born in Mumbai but later studied at St. Thomas
Girls School in Aldona and in fact worked for a while in Goa before
joining the Mission Sisters of Ajmerin 1979.

All these facts I collected my just making a few phone calls to
reliable sources. My point being that a reporter for a national paper
like The Hindu could surely have got his facts right about Sister
Mariola's origins. She is very much a Goan (and Aldonkar) by ancestry
and domicile. And definitely was not born in Mangalore. I hope they
will now set the record straight.

Cheers!

Cecil



[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: Goan Youth convention - air ticket and visa

2012-07-16 Thread George Pinto
Hi everyone

Many of you are planning on attending the “International Goan Youth Convention 
this year in Goa from Dec 26 – January 1.

If your plans are not firm or you are not sure if your visa application to 
India will be approved (assuming you need one), then consider purchasing a 
fully refundable air ticket. Although a little more expensive, it gives you the 
flexibility of canceling your ticket at no cost while at the same time 
guaranteeing you a seat now during peak season when flights may sell out. If 
you wait, prices may go up too. You can make your inquiries with your travel 
agent or contact:
Nirav Ghunchala
Phone: 888-759-2473 opt 1 ext. 2711 (California)
Email: ni...@skybirdtravel.com
www.skybirdtravel.com

If you are a Goan of Pakistan origin/ancestry, you may find it difficult to get 
a visa to India. There is a visa category called Conference visa which you 
may consider instead of tourist visa. We are willing to assist you with the 
requirements needed to select the conference visa to attend this convention.

As soon as you pay your registration fees for the convention, we will provide 
the required letters for youth and their accompanying family members but we 
will need to have all your names no later than July 22nd. Please note our 
letter of support does not guarantee your visa application will be approved. If 
your visa application is declined and you are not able to travel to India we 
will refund your convention registration fees.

We are here to support you. You can contact Acaria Almeida at 
acariaalme...@yahoo.com and coordinate with her.

Please pass this message on to your family/friends/contacts. Thank you.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org




[Goanet] Mapusa, the failed city

2012-07-16 Thread Tony de Sa
**
Mapusa is a failed city. Sad that the taluka town of Bardez which once had
the best organized market in Goa has been allowed to become a shambles by
the powers that be. More so when the present Chief Minister and his Deputy
are both from Mapusa.

The bus stand is in a terrible state. There is garbage all around, people
urinate freely and the stench is awful. Sewage oozes out and forms a lake
in the parking lot of the bus stand. That is where the RTO conducts its
inspections. Two years back I wrote to Reginald Laurenco who was the
chairman of KTC - he promised an inspection which never materialized.

The market is today badly organized with no order or system. Garbage
abounds. The state of the gutters is unbeiievable. After seeing the state
of the drainage system in Mapusa, could one believe that we live in a
nation that is capable of a nuke and putting vehicles in orbit? Even
Mohenjodaro and Harappa had better drainage systems.

Parking space is not sufficient and no arrangements are made for
restricting the entry of vehichles or controlling their flow. The traffic
cops who patrol in Mapusa do not believe in preventive methods but rather
punitive methods on hapless victims like motorbike riders.

This is written in the hope that some one will hear the cry of agonized
Bardezkars and do something about Mapusa.
-- 

** Tony de Sa  tonydesa at gmail dot com  **


Re: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread J. Colaco jc
manuel tavares duk...@bell.net wrote:

[1] Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of
Goans in the Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both
Portuguese and British).

jc1: Dear Mr. Tavares, I thank you, Venantius and Roland for your
contributions. It does help individuals like me (who has/have never
lived under any colonial regimes or in Africa) to understand some of
the writings and statements of others.
---

[2] It would be pertinent to mention that Goans were respected and
liked, more, by the African than other Members of the Indian
communities.

jc2: I am not sure if the operative word is respected esp when one
reads what you have written in # 6  7 infra. That the members of the
Indian Community treated Goans poorly (my word) is documented by the
way Goans were/still are depicted in Hindi films AND the manner in
which Goa is being treated.
--

[3] Perhaps being subjects of a cruel and intolerant Portuguese ruler,
made us more sympathetic to African aspirations. It is therefore not
lost that people like the Late Pio De Gama Pinto was a stalwart in
fighting for African Aspiration.

jc3: Pio was not alive when I came into contact with the Gama Pinto
family (via marriage) - but could you please enlighten me a bit more
about the cruelty you suffered or others (you know) suffered under the
Portuguese -  and for What? I'd request you you please reason out your
thoughts on the basis of what you and I would likely face for similar
activities in Goa in 2012.
--

[4] And the African response to his contribution was to assassinate
him. This is what one gets in return. There are other Goans as well
who sacrificed and contributed to the emancipation and eventual
independence of Africa like J.M. Nazareth, and 'Gandhi' Pereira and
many others. To say that the African was ungrateful for such stellar
contributions would be an understatement.

jc4: Allow me to disagree with you on this point. Could I suggest to
you that Politics has no history of Gratefulness, but a definite
history of back-stabbing? and that Pio would NOT have met that tragic
fate -in front of his home and children - IF he did not have (or was
not perceived to have had) Political Aspirations? I submit to you that
the fate which befell Pio would have been the same ANY other person
would have suffered - irrespective of skin colour or even nationality.
Pio was yet another example of Kam Zalem Voiz Mello.

Besides that, I am not very sure that the Gama Pintos made/make astute
politicians. IMHO, politics is NOT for honest, decent and naive
individuals. So, unfortunately, the Gama Pintos were used and dumped.
--

[5] Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them
well paying them at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other
Indian communities almost always tried to circumvent the minimum wage
and treated the African poorly.

jc5: Exactly my experience in Jamaica. In fact, a number of Indian
families asked us why we paid our 'helper' twice the minimum wage and
allowed her to sit with us at the table for lunch. All I can say to
you (and what I said to them) is that she was a great helper who cared
much for our kids and enabled both of us to work.
--

[6] This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not be
distinguished from other Indians due to the similar colour of our
skins. We were therefore labeled with all the rest as 'Muindi'
(Indian).

jc6: Possibly, because the East African Goans identified themselves
with the East African Indians who were known to be corrupt and
demeaning to black people. The CONNING of the poor black Africans by
Indian merchants is legend. You expected the Africans to forget?
--

[7] Therefore when retribution came, we lost mainly due to skin colour
similarities.

jc7: I hope you will understand why I am NOT sure that the Africans
really respected the Goans.
--

[8] Having worked in the civil service in Africa, and dealing with
many Africans of various tribes, I can truly say that we treated the
African fairly and administered our duties to the best of our ability.

jc8: My experience with Goans is that the vast majority of them are
fair and honest; never mind what the desis say about them.
--

[9] To say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we sometimes had
to look danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human beings.

jc9: Ditto
--

[10] One has only to see why the corruption in Africa is so rampant.
It is the Indian who introduced it there and perpetuated its
existence.

jc10: While it is known (even to me) that the East African Indians
(esp the merchants) were unscrupulous rip-off artists, I am not sure
that one can pin the Introduction of corruption on to the Indians.
Take a look at vast areas of Africa which never saw Indians. ALSO,
think again about Slavery. Do we really believe that a FEW colonists
went and captured boat-loads of slaves from Africa and took them to
different parts of the world?
--

[11] Goan people who worked disbursing amounts to 

[Goanet] The poor showing by the LoO and the opposition

2012-07-16 Thread Tony de Sa
One of my favourite pastimes is to watch the live telecast of the Goa
Legislative Assembly Sessions.

On Thursday or Friday, Vijay Sardessai was arguing about the arbitrary
interpretation of a Supreme Court order by a Deputy Collector. It seemed
that a certain party in Fatorda had erected a cross in his private property
and the Dy. Collector had ordered the police to demolish the cross citing
the Supreme Court ruling on roadside shrines.

While Vijay Sardessai put up a spirited fight, and the Dy. C. M Francis
D'Souza put up an equally spirited defense of  his minion, others who
intervened - Reginald Lourenco and the LoO Pratapsing Rane were rather
tame.

Now if the previous opposition party was there, they would have stormed the
well and generally created a ruckus till the Government of the day conceded
the point. But the present opposition just gave in meekly.

The argument put up by the minister was that there was an appellate
authority to sort the problem so let the party appeal if it thought it was
aggrieved. The opposition thought that the officer was to be reprimanded in
order to prevent a repeat.

It is sad that we don't have an effective opposition to curb the Government.

Viva Goa


-- 

** Tony de Sa  tonydesa at gmail dot com  **


[Goanet] Damn The Portuguese

2012-07-16 Thread roland . francis
Very interesting to have noted JC asking Manuel Tavares in the context of the 
latter saying that the Portuguese were a dictatorial and cruel power under whom 
the Goans suffered, what would be the fate even today in Goa, part of a 
supposedly democratic country, if roles were reversed.

Good question, this.

Indian history unfortunately will record the Portuguese as damned for the 
suppression of the struggle for Goa's freedom (among other things).

Hindsight being 20/20, let's lay a few facts on the table:

The struggle or even the mere wish for freedom for Goa, was never a mass 
movement or element. Rather, it was restricted to either a few people in Goa 
disgruntled at the Portuguese for personal or ideological reasons or a few 
people in Bombay who while not suffering penury from Portuguese neglect (like 
those in Goa), thought somehow that a Golden Goa era would be ushered in when 
the Portuguese were shunted out, India took over and the Goans would be allowed 
to elect their own government. All this happened minus the golden part.

Next, to say that the Portuguese were cruel is patently unfair and Indian 
propaganda. Of course they were undoubtedly strict to the point of being almost 
inhuman to criminals of all shades but in today's world isn't this the very 
wish expressed both silently and overtly of every law-abiding Goan in Goa who 
despairs of the prevailing situation. Remember too that this was the 50s and 
before we are talking about when Canada a democracy even then had no less 
punishment for not only criminals but also indigents and people of color. If we 
are talking of cruelty to freedom fighters, weren't the stakes high enough viz 
a threat to Portugal itself which then considered Goa a part of the 
metropolitan territory, a legal benefit which many Goans reap even today 
through Portuguese and thence EU citizenship? 

Lastly let's ask the final and most potent question. What if Goans rose en 
masse in a freedom movement for a break from India for whatever reason and in 
whatever form. Given the record of the paramilitary and army in Kashmir, the 
Northeast and Central India, is there anyone out there who hopes that the 
massacres will be any less wanton. The Portuguese record would be a boy scout 
jamboree in comparison I assure you. Strategically and hedonistically, Goa is 
more important to the Delhi-boys than any other area in turmoil.

Roland, Toronto. 
Roland Francis
416-453-3371

Re: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Dear Manuel,
I have not lived in Africa. My comments as usual came out based on
experience, and the nature of our station among Goans in Mumbai. It was
also looking at the labels, and signifiers which we assign to ourselves.

I appreciate and agree with your assessment that Goans were respected in
Africa. We heard many good things where we lived. We were not a part of
splendid interactive Goan enclaves in Mazagaon, Byculla, Dhobhi Talao,
Sonapur, etc., but lived in the lower rung BPT Quarters at Antop Hill,
Wadala.

I also agree with the part about how Gians themselves were treated, ie.,
fairly and the comparisons you make. No issue whatsoever.

venantius j pinto


 Message: 8
 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:07:28 -0400
 From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view


 Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of Goans in
 the Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both Portuguese and British).
 It would be pertinent to mention that Goans were respected and liked,
 more, by the African than other Members of the Indian communities. Perhaps
 being subjects of a cruel and intolerant Portuguese ruler, made us more
 sympathetic to African aspirations. It is therefore not lost that people
 like the Late Pio De Gama Pinto was a stalwart in fighting for African
 Aspiration. And the African response to his contribution was to assassinate
 him. This is what one gets in return. There are other Goans as well who
 sacrificed and contributed to the emancipation and eventual independence of
 Africa like J.M. Nazareth, and 'Gandhi' Pereira and many others. To say
 that the African was ungrateful for such stellar contributions would be an
 understatement.

 Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them well paying
 them at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other Indian
 communities almost always tried to circumvent the minimum wage and treated
 the African poorly. This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not
 be distinguished from other Indians due to the similar colour of our skins.
 We were therefore labeled with all the rest as 'Muindi'  (Indian).
 Therefore when retribution came, we lost mainly due to skin colour
 similarities. Having worked in the civil service in Africa, and dealing
 with many Africans of various tribes, I can truly say that we treated the
 African fairly and administered our duties to the best of our ability. To
 say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we sometimes had to look
 danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human beings. To say that
 Goans were fair, one has only to see why the corruption in Africa is so
 rampant. It is the Indian who introduced it there and
   perpetuated its existence. Goan people who worked disbursing amounts to
 Africans in remote areas were honest and god fearing. Some Indians doing
 the same jobs often cheated the illiterate African and some of them even
 took bribes to perform tasks such as replacements of lost ID's (Kipande)
 etc. May be others have opinions on this and I leave it up to them.


 Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares



Re: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks,
1) I guess Goanet easily shows the generation gaps of its contributors. 

2) I did not witness colonialism and my generation has no baggage from it.

3) As with all Goanet discussions, this E. Africa one has all the potential to 
dwell in pre-1961 and spin in the same spot. 

4) When I was growing up in E. Africa, Goans were Vice-Presidents, MP's, 
Attorney General, Judges, Ministers, Ambassadors. Heads of 
Parastatels, Advisers to the President, Colonels, etc. etc. In other words, 
there was no limit on how high a Goan could go. 

5) Kenya had to resort to violence in its struggle for independence and ever 
since, its politics have been violent. Politicians there understand the power 
of the barrel and do not hesitate to use it.  Even in the last elections, rival 
tribes were killing each other in order to hang on to or grab power. There is a 
price to pay for getting into politics and more so in Africa.


6) There are people here who have made up their minds that the Goans in E. 
Africa were lackeys. Strangely enough, that claim comes mainly from those who 
did not spend a single day in E. Africa. I estimate that in British E. Africa, 
ten or at the very most, twenty percent of Goans worked for the civil service. 
The vast majority of Goans worked in the private sector like the banks and 
education.


7) Society in E. Africa was structured, by design, on racial grounds. There 
were separate residential areas for pinks, browns and blacks. Social and sports 
clubs had admission policies based on religion and race. The first thing that 
the independent govt did was to bar social clubs from having race or religious 
restrictions. In this regard, they were far more progressive than even the USA 
at the time, where racial discrimination was still the law.


8) Corruption is always two sided. It thrives when the govt does not prosecute 
those who receive/demand bribes. You get mired in it when the most corrupt are 
the honorable members of parliament and leaders of Govt.  This is the situation 
in Goa and E. Africa today. 

Perhaps what we really should be discussing is why Goans are leaving both 
places. 


Mervyn2221






- Original Message -
From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:07:28 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of Goans in the 
Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both Portuguese and British).
It would be pertinent to mention that Goans were respected and liked, more, by 
the African than other Members of the Indian communities. Perhaps being 
subjects of a cruel and intolerant Portuguese ruler, made us more sympathetic 
to African aspirations. It is therefore not lost that people like the Late Pio 
De Gama Pinto was a stalwart in fighting for African Aspiration. And the 
African response to his contribution was to assassinate him. This is what one 
gets in return. There are other Goans as well who sacrificed and contributed to 
the emancipation and eventual independence of Africa like J.M. Nazareth, and 
'Gandhi' Pereira and many others. To say that the African was ungrateful for 
such stellar contributions would be an understatement.

Many Goans employed Africans as servants and most treated them well paying them 
at least the Minimum Wage (Kanuni ya sirikali). Other Indian communities almost 
always tried to circumvent the minimum wage and treated the African poorly. 
This treatment came at a price to Goans who could not be distinguished from 
other Indians due to the similar colour of our skins. We were therefore labeled 
with all the rest as 'Muindi'  (Indian). Therefore when retribution came, we 
lost mainly due to skin colour similarities. Having worked in the civil service 
in Africa, and dealing with many Africans of various tribes, I can truly say 
that we treated the African fairly and administered our duties to the best of 
our ability. To say we were lackeys is far from the truth as we sometimes had 
to look danger in the eye and do the right thing as true human beings. To say 
that Goans were fair, one has only to see why the corruption in Africa is so 
rampant. It is the Indian who
introduced it there and perpetuated its existence. Goan people who worked 
disbursing amounts to Africans in remote areas were honest and god fearing. 
Some Indians doing the same jobs often cheated the illiterate African and some 
of them even took bribes to perform tasks such as replacements of lost ID's 
(Kipande) etc. May be others have opinions on this and I leave it up to them.


Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (16Jul12)

2012-07-16 Thread alexyz fernandes


~ At an Art Exhibition ~

Black Gold   ~   Black Money   ~   Black Beauty

The Exhibition is Titled 'Black'. It's Symbolic of Indian Money in Swiss 
Banks



To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org 



[Goanet] COLUMN: Responsible government should not support a bandh

2012-07-16 Thread Nisser Dias

Responsible government should not support a bandh
By Nisser Dias
nisserdias at gmail.com
SMS to 9422437029


This week we seem to be reading the on-going tug-of-war between chief 
minister Manohar Parrikar and Union Home minister P. Chidambaram over 
appointments of IAS, IPS, IRS officers, in layman terms babus. To my mind it 
is not an individual conflict or one-upmanship but mere posturing between 
two political parties who want to show the other in bad light. Sadly in this 
cocky friction the general public or rather governance tend to suffer at 
either end.


Somewhere and somehow political parties in power whether at the Union level 
or state level have to shed their political affiliation to govern and work 
in tandem for the betterment of the state and the country as a whole.


The friction between Union Home minister and chief minister is rather 
unfortunate which could be solved across the table. But since both the 
individuals are from different political parties such dialogue mostly occurs 
via press and the media and most of the time is blown out of proportion.


Chief minister Manohar Parrikar is very much right when he says that he has 
to be consulted while appointing cadre based officers in Goa. It should not 
be that he has to accept each and every officer deputed or transferred to 
state by the Union government. It is well known fact that among the cadres 
there are plenty of maverick officers some even having a strong political 
clout. Hence in a case when two different political parties ruling at the 
national level and the state level, such officers can put spokes into 
administration and smooth governance of the state and hence consultation 
between the Union and the state is very much necessary before appointment of 
cadre based officers.


In an ideal situation the Union government should identify such officers for 
posting in a particular state but the final choice should be left with the 
state government to choose the officers. But the choice should have a rider 
that once a state government chooses an officer, that officer should serve 
the prescribed number of years in that state and no recommendation of 
transfer should be allowed by the Union. In case the officer is found to be 
involved in any sort of illegal dealings he should be suspended till the 
case against him is finalised in the state itself. There is no classic 
example better then IPS officer SP Neeraj Thakur who is alleged to have 
assaulted Taleigao MLA Babush Monserrate in 2006 at the Panjim police 
station. Very next day he sought transfer, it was immediately granted, he 
was relieved and he took up a new posting in another state within 24 hours. 
In this case the Union and state governments were ruled by the same 
political party so they could move files at a breakneck speed to save an 
officer. This IPS officer acted high-handedly after ensuring his escape 
route, which indicates that he had the go-ahead from the political bosses to 
manhandle Babush. For the Congress it was a sweet revenge as the Taleigao 
MLA had dumped the party at the eleventh hour during election and contested 
on UGDP ticket.


In case of two political parties at the Centre and state, the law and order 
situation created by Babush and his thugs would have been handled 
differently. Hence the state government should have a say while appointing 
cadre based officers in the state.


Now coming to the second scenario dogging our country. National Democratic 
Alliance (NDA) the main opposition for the UPA government at the Centre has 
given a call for national bandh today to protest steep hike in petrol 
prices. Whatever maybe the reason for the hike, whether it is devaluation of 
the rupee against the dollar or inflation or bad economic policies of the 
UPA government, will a national bandh bring solution to the problem and the 
answer is a simple no.


However the question is, should be states governed by BJP support such a 
call. The BJP led government in Goa has set a precedent in the state by 
endorsing a bandh. During the previous regime of the Congress government 
many such protests and bandhs have been held but it has not changed things 
at all and I do not see any solution this time even with the state 
government supporting it. What this bandhs and protests do is only worsen 
rather than ease the hardships of the people.


For example menial workers like the loaders do not get their daily wage and 
hence their families have to go hungry for a day. Small entrepreneurs who 
have hired premises to conduct their business lose a day’s business and then 
face difficulty in paying rent. Administration collapses and there are host 
of other examples. And in this globalized environment can we afford the 
country being held to ransom and paralyzed by some political parties in 
opposition?


I know for sure that chief minister Manohar Parrikar is a workaholic and 
takes his job seriously sometimes working for 18 to 20 hours a day. My 

Re: [Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Dear JC,
I have not lived in Africa as I believe those who have lived in East Africa
would know.

My comments as usual came out based on experience, and the nature of our
station among Goans in Mumbai. My interest in things and people have to do
with consciousness, religion and sexuality. It was also looking at the
labels, and signifiers which we assign to ourselves, and brought it to bear
on Goans in India.

venantius j pinto



On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM, J. Colaco  jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:

 manuel tavares duk...@bell.net wrote:

 [1] Venantius and Roland have given us fairly reasoned accounts of
 Goans in the Colonial era in Africa mainly East Africa (Both
 Portuguese and British).

 jc1: Dear Mr. Tavares, I thank you, Venantius and Roland for your
 contributions. It does help individuals like me (who has/have never
 lived under any colonial regimes or in Africa) to understand some of
 the writings and statements of others.
 ---




[Goanet] Goa news for July 17, 2012

2012-07-16 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** No illegal mines in Goa: CM - Times of India
chemes-to-burden-goas-economy-congress/1023609.htmlPopulist
schemes to burden Goa's economy: Congress
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFyIfeN3ENNGcqZV6paq-D9bbZt-Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/No-illegal-mines-in-Goa-CM/articleshow/15011364.cms

*** 'Not 1857, 1583 Goa revolt was first Indian mutiny' -
TwoCircles.net
nspired 1857 uprising was not India's first rebellion against
foreign rule. Legislator and renowned dramatist Vishnu Wagh told
the Goa legislative ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHQiEr7O4uaGkpfhN4npobkq7gNdAurl=http://twocircles.net/2012jul16/not_1857_1583_goa_revolt_was_first_indian_mutiny.html

*** Workshop on self hypsosis - Times of India
mes of IndiaLeona Fernandes will conduct a workshop on self
hypnosis on July 18, from 5pm to 8.30pm, at International Centre
Goa (ICG), Dona Paula.The workshop is open to those above the
age of 14.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHw188LwFCgyZBhXLC_jmQHfaRoGAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Workshop-on-self-hypsosis/articleshow/15011497.cms

*** Police reopen Denyse Sweeney case - Times of India
nvestigated it as a case of murder.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHINcNTImETs1L-q5MVA-pEsEpuIQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Police-reopen-Denyse-Sweeney-case/articleshow/15011550.cms

*** Buy Bharti Airtel; Sesa Goa good for long term: Sukhani -
Moneycontrol.com
neycontrol.comSudarshan Sukhani, s2analytics.com view the one
can buy Bharti Airtel. Sesa Goa is good for long traders.a
class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH2gCGVesQwH0yoY5Jtu6a86XgLDgurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/stocks-views/buy-bharti-airtel-sesa-goa-good-for-long-term-sukhani_730957.html

*** 'Keep Ram Sena poison out of Goa' - Times of India
mes of IndiaShri Ram Sena chief Pramod Muthalik's recent
statements to TOI that he will launch his Goa branch by
September has evoked a barrage of angry outbursts from a cross
section of society.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGxxJ2mhdwoacxj2SOl361vLjtWKQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Keep-Ram-Sena-poison-out-of-Goa/articleshow/15011378.cms

*** Heavy rains cause havoc across Goa - Times of India
mes of IndiaWith heavy rains lashing Goa for most part of
Monday, trees were uprooted in several parts of the state,
leading to road blocks and consequent traffic jams.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGr9CsFv63sqyHgeGZyvZDWjVRsTQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Heavy-rains-cause-havoc-across-Goa/articleshow/15011436.cms

*** Cap iron ore mining in Goa at 25 mt a year: Expert panel -
Economic Times
onomic TimesA panel of experts has recommended capping iron ore
mining in Goa to between 20 and 25 million tonnes a year for the
next five years, nearly half of what the state produces and
exports today.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG2UFq8BhpAgqwi7C8YhK-eCn88Dwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/indl-goods/svs/metals-mining/cap-iron-ore-mining-in-goa-at-25-mt-a-year-expert-panel/articleshow/15011877.cms

*** Ameyo Empowers Outbound Process of Commercial Helpline of
Goa - PR Newswire (press release)
 Newswire (press release)Ameyo Empowers Outbound Process of
Commercial Helpline of Goa.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNERI-wGuGSZpV48dOGLXjtbPcXP9gurl=http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ameyo-empowers-outbound-process-of-commercial-helpline-of-goa-162556956.html

*** Goan Expats want State to Host Mini-NRI Football World Cup -
Daijiworld.com
RI Football World Cup.a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE18AtXiWQxpSdDX8UTT78iBiL-gwurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=143878


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] Mapusa, the failed city - NOT

2012-07-16 Thread marlon menezes
Tony,

As a Mapusacar, I find your post extremely upsetting.  The Mapusa Friday market 
is, if I can quote Cecil, world famous, all over Goa. I find it extremely 
humorous that you, a resident of Vasco would dare comment about Mapusa. Vasco 
is so quaint, it makes a remote village in Bihar look like a bustling 
metropolis. 

Yes, we do have a parking problem in Mapusa - this is a reflection of our 
higher levels of economic development compared to you lesser Vascoites who 
keep trespassing our haven in your overfilled KTC buses. Regarding your reply 
from Reginald Laurenco, my suggestion is that you wait for another few more 
years. We Mapusacars have better things to do, than reply to some irrelevant 
request from an immigrant from Vasco. In any case, he is quite busy dealing 
with very mess being created by your Vasco brothers who keep migrating to 
Mapusa in the jam packed KTC buses.  And you have the nerve to talk about 
garbage? 

As a blue blooded, true son of the soil, I find it very saddening to see my 
Mapusa being ruined by the immigrants from Vasco.  This is written in the hope 
that some one like Nasci will hear the cry of agonized Bardezkars and do 
something about preserving Mapusa. 

Marlon



From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com

**
Mapusa is a failed city. Sad that the taluka town of Bardez which once had
the best organized market in Goa has been allowed to become a shambles by
the powers that be. More so when the present Chief Minister and his Deputy
are both from Mapusa.

The bus stand is in a terrible state. There is garbage all around, people
urinate freely and the stench is awful. Sewage oozes out and forms a lake
in the parking lot of the bus stand. That is where the RTO conducts its
inspections. Two years back I wrote to Reginald Laurenco who was the
chairman of KTC - he promised an inspection which never materialized.

The market is today badly organized with no order or system. Garbage
abounds. The state of the gutters is unbeiievable. After seeing the state
of the drainage system in Mapusa, could one believe that we live in a
nation that is capable of a nuke and putting vehicles in orbit? Even
Mohenjodaro and Harappa had better drainage systems.

Parking space is not sufficient and no arrangements are made for
restricting the entry of vehichles or controlling their flow. The traffic
cops who patrol in Mapusa do not believe in preventive methods but rather
punitive methods on hapless victims like motorbike riders.

This is written in the hope that some one will hear the cry of agonized
Bardezkars and do something about Mapusa.
-- 

** Tony de Sa  tonydesa at gmail dot com  ** 


[Goanet] Fish Curry Rice, Vindaloo, Fried Rice etc at Hotel Avanti

2012-07-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Hotel Avanti – Restaurant
Rua de Ourem, Panjim Goa
(Near Old Patto Bridge)

Until early 90’s, I was a regular here (not daily but say weekly)
Looks like Avanti existed since 1973, so says the boad.

This road was the only road for us (via Calapur, 4 pilars)
as there was no Panjim-Bambolim bypass road then.

My favourite here was Pork Vindaloo, Chicken Leg, beef steak, Sausages  etc
The restaurant was then downstairs, upstairs being hotel/Lodge. See present 
external view pic

On the Rua de Ourem road (see pic),  we used to wait for our usual crowded 
buses to go home (agxi).
But I often used share-a-taxi who charged us Rs. 5 per head as against Re.1 by 
bus.

I must have visited AVANTI restaurant say after 20 years.

Actually I wanted to go for Prawn curry rice which was Rs.125 but then I 
changed my mind when
I was told I will have to shell out additional Rs.45 for plain rice making it 
Rs.170,
I then opted for its regular fish curry rice Rs. 125 with no big fish but 
korbott / Papad etc (see pic)

Ok what we ate and what it cost us?
We were 3

2 KF beer bottles – 160
2 French fries or Patato finger chips Rs.150 – see pic
2 Chicken fried rice Rs.250 – see pic
2  Pork Vindaloo Rs.350 – see pic
1 Fish curry rice (for me) Rs. 125 see pic
2 water bots Rs.40
4 loves of bread (Poder pao) Rs. 20
Total : 1095


Ok, let’s check these pics

Fish Curry Rice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/7587024974/in/photostream/


all on a plate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/7587027686/in/photostream/



French Fries
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/7587020642/in/photostream

Chicken Fried Rice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/7587022592/in/photostream/

the Pork Vindaloo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauknon_veg/7587048082/


the Restaurant – External view
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/7587030176/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7581828836/in/photostream

a view from the restaurant – Upstairs
Rua de ourem, creek, footbridge etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk55/7581826766/sizes/l/in/photostream/


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[Goanet] Goa Table Tennis Association functioning illegally: Panjim Table Tennis Club

2012-07-16 Thread Sandeep Heble
Goa Table Tennis Association functioning illegally: Panjim Table Tennis Club

The Panjim Table Tennis Club(PTTC) yesterday claimed that the Goa
Table Tennis Association(GTTA) was collecting registration fees from
players and clubs though it (the GTTA) ceased to be a recognised unit
as it has been declared as an unregistered Society under section
3(B)(5) of the Societies Registration Act(Goa Second Amendment) Act,
1998 by the Office of the District Registrar(South), Inspector General
of Societies.

In its notice to the GTTA, the PTTC says that the elections of the
Association were last held in 2010, where the Office bearers/ managing
committee members were elected for a period of one year as per its own
bye-laws, rules and regulations. The tenure of the Goa Table Tennis
Association Office bearers/ Managing committee has thus come to an end
in the year 2011 but the present committee continues to function
irregularly, illegally and unconstitutionally, without any such
approval granted to it by the General Body, the PTTC states.

In case you ignore this notice and continue to collect such fees/
subscriptions from players/ members, we may be forced to file
appropriate complaints before the relevant authorities for the purpose
of taking strict punitive action, PTTC Secretary Sandeep Heble said
in the notice.

Furthermore, since the term of this managing committee has expired,
an immediate General Body Meeting of the members of Goa Table Tennis
Association may be called to elect a new committee and all the
existing committee members may be asked to tender their resignations
immediately so that the Association is not demeaned much further and
the sport of table tennis in Goa gets administered in a clean and
efficient manner, Heble said.

The club has also written to BPS Club, Margao and other affiliated
clubs, requesting them not to allow the present unauthorized managing
committee of Goa Table Tennis Association to collect fees/
subscriptions from players/ members in their premises or during
tournaments being organized by them as such acts would be irregular
and illegal and against the various laws of the land. These
affiliated clubs, being respectable clubs/ Institutions have been
requested not to allow such illegalities to take place in their
premises or during their tournaments, Heble informed.

Source: Gomantak Times, July 17


Re: [Goanet] The poor showing by the LoO and the opposition

2012-07-16 Thread SOTER
Not having an effective opposition in Assembly is just a reflection of the 
absence of an effective opposition in Goa's civil society. When Goan luminaries 
and ideologues waiver depending on who is in power, should we be shocked by 
such stance adopted by cunning politicians?

-soter


[Goanet] Portuguese-ruled East Africa -- another view

2012-07-16 Thread Bernado Colaco
In his unconceited post Sr. GF does not reveal the name of the chief judge who 
is none other than Justice Salvador Figueiredo. Intresting enough the judge 
also once challenged some upper echelons of the society for their wrong doings 
in the place he currently resides.
 
BC

The following is a summary?of astory told to me ...
?
A young public prosecutor (procurador), newly-appointed to Guin?-Bissau after 
earning his degree in Lisbon, successfully prosecuted a white Portuguese man 
for having kicked a local man and broken his spine. The young?prosecutor was 
later asked why he had taken the white man to task for kicking a black man, 
something that was apparently common in those days. He replied, 'A kick on any 
man is deplorable; but to kick so hard as to break someone's spine is 
murderous'. 
?
This young public prosecutor later rose to be a chief judge in Macau, for some 
10 years before Macau was handed over to China. Now retired, he still serves 
the Macanese people providing judicial advice as and when required, mostly in 
defending cases (the other side of prosecution:-) ). 
?
Needless to state he is Goan...
?
Regards,
?
Gabriel.



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