[Goanet-News] COMMUNITY AUDIO: Portuguese Citizenship/Nationality for Goans... the contentious issues
01:37:27 https://archive.org/details/prof-afonso-talk With so many Goans opting to reclaim Portuguese citizenship even five decades after Lisbon's rule ended here, the issue has been hotly debated -- and is seen to have social, political and other implications. Prof. Ave Cleto Afonso, translator of a book called *Portuguese Citizenship of Persons Born In The Erstwhile Estado Da India And Of Their Descendants*, spoke on this issue this week in Panjim. Afonso was hosted by the Goa Book Club. This meeting was held on Thursday, July 17, 2014, starting at 5 pm sharp. Afonso is also the author or translator of a number of other books, dealing with subjects like Goan laws, the Hindus of Goa, panchayati raj, tourism, Goan family laws, an Italian-Konkani dictionary, and even a response to Portugal's greatest poets in Camoean verse. Goa Book Club has an active online presence at http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club This audio is part of the collection: Community Audio Artist/Composer: Talk by Prof Ave Cleto Afonso, recorded by FN Date: 2014-07-17 Language: English Keywords: goa; citizenship; portugal; goa citizenship order; 1961; passports; migration; euro migration Creative Commons license: Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 https://archive.org/details/prof-afonso-talk FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
[Goanet] Fwd: Song for the day.....
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[Goanet] Could strenous exercise before bedtime induce better sleep?
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Re: [Goanet] What does your school PTA say about admitting kids with HIV?
J. Colaco wrote: I agree with what is done in the UK and in Canada where (based on what I know) HIV infected children are rigorously followed up by the pediatric Infectious disease specialists and administered the necessary therapy...often by DOT (direct observation treatment) esp wrt TB Are you absolutely certain that the same prevails in the case of these HIV+ve orphans? Are they TB free? Do you know for sure? Are the children who presently attend that school TB free? Do you know for sure? WHO exactly is willing to be liable IF either the HIV orphans or the other school children contract TB from the other? You Mervyn? BTW: Have the orphanage children been cleared for other disease asymptotic (carrier) states? --- Doc, The crux of the matter here is that one cannot discriminate against another person just because you feel the other person may test positive for TB. Mervyn
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[Goanet] How does the 'placebo effect' work?
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Re: [Goanet] Litter picker
Harebrained idea. Better to stick to Cadbury Chocolates to take for people in Goa. The litter picker. Seems good to pick up excrement, both human and animal. Specially after a bout with feni and sorpotel the previous night. RF. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net Date: 07-16-2014 12:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: goanet [goanet] goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Litter picker Dear all As promised, images of a litter picker that can assist everyone without breaking their back to Keep Goa Clean and unchoke the soil of Goa that is filled with litter breeding rats and mosquitos and taken for granted. It is everyone's responsiblity. Failing any initiative by manufacturers in Goa can I take this opportunity to invite the people in the back slums of Mumbai airport who manufacture and distribute the trolley frame and wheels for suitcases around the world to look into this as a job creation and revenue industry. The link is as below: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=litter+pickerclient=firefox-ahs=MGTrls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialchannel=fflbtbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=i5_GU9H3EayM7AaAqYDABAved=0CFkQ7Akbiw=337bih=211 Melvyn Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 16 July 2014
[Goanet] The global battle to steal your secrets.
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[Goanet] What does your school PTA say about admitting kids with HIV?
Roland Francis: Even if you disclaimed education, merely being informed and aware as you claim to be, should have convinced you of the correct stand without the necessity of self doubts on the subject of HIV infected children viz they have the full rights of all children including access to education without discrimination and harassment. There can be no second thoughts about this under the guise of sincerely analysing my reactions. If you think like this, no wonder people with a little less than your level of information and awareness could do what they did in Rivona. Cecil: Unlike you Roland, I am not perfect and not always sure that my reactions are correct. I try to walk a mile in the other person's shoes before passing judgement. All men should strive to learn before they die what they are running from, And to, and why. ~James Thurber Roland: If I am blinkered and negative than your phrase is extremely naive not to be termed divisive. Pity a writer could not have said it more clearly. No matter how you mask or spin it, the phrase could have been unambiguous with Our Children, Our Children's Children, if that is what you meant. Cecil: As I said before I have used the phrase before, for other causes, to good effect. Only a convoluted mind could interpret it as you did. If you feel your English is superior you can please coin slogans and sell them. Though I doubt anyone would buy, Our Children, Our Children's Children. It sounds smug and selfish. - Roland: My last word on this subject. Cecil: It better be. You have forgotten the issue at hand and are trying to play with words and defend your stupid assumptions. But I must admit I was looking forward to Roland's Lessons in Proper English Usage for Copywriting Professionals. Cheers! ==
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[Goanet] A Letter from Lisbon - A Lesson for Goa - By Vivek Menezes
A Letter from Lisbon - A Lesson for GOA http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/Letter-from-Lisbon-Lessons-for-Goa/articleshow/38502391.cms COMMENTS A Antonio Costa was born unto Goa on 31 August, 2000 when GSRP was registered with the Election Commission of India as Goa\'s dynamic young Regional Party. The Party\'s Road Map for Goa says it all along with the belt-tightening exercises underlined by Article 34 and 38 of its Contitution. The Constitution as well as the Road Map for Goa is available to download at www.goasu-raj.org Sadly Goans have failed to notice this Antonio Costa. Hopefully they will in time in 2017 goasuraj http://www.goasu-raj.org/gen/news/3508.asp
[Goanet] Letter from Lisbon: Lessons for Goa
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Letter-from-Lisbon-Lessons-for-Goa/articleshow/38502391.cms The news from Portugal is full of doom-and-gloom on its foundering economy, but you would not know it from walking the streets of Lisbon. Of course, data doesn't lie: Portugal's debt is more than 125% of its GDP, and unemployment is more than 15%. While the country recently exited its unpopular international financial bailout (assembled by the European Union and International Monetary Fund) and officially emerged from recession last year, the fact is educated young Portuguese feel compelled to leave the country at the rate of one every five minutes, almost 1,30,000 last year alone. But the eye doesn't lie either: Lisbon visibly buzzes with terrific, youthful energy and gleams like never before with a huge number of new restaurants, charming multipurpose kiosks, ambitious boutique hotels and restaurants, and a wide range of new museums and other tourist attractions built by both private and public sectors, often working in collaboration. It is the safest capital in Europe, and one of the cleanest and greenest in the world, featuring a welcoming, broad-minded cultural openness that is a model for every country. None of this is by accident, and much is the direct result of policy decisions made by the popular three-term mayor, Antonio Costa (the son of anti-colonial Goan writer, Orlando Costa). The former minister, and vice-president of the European parliament, has engineered a dramatic turnaround in Lisbon since first being elected mayor in 2007. Now he is favoured to take over his party, and win the post of prime minister in the 2015 national polls. Earlier this week in his office in the magnificent, rococo Sitio da Camara (City Hall), Costa laid out elements of his strategy for Lisbon that have wound up paying such dividends, even during a national recession. We recognized that we had to increase the visibility of the city in this time of crisis, Costa said, So we devoted a lot of attention to the public spaces, to renew areas that were decaying, to bring in as much new energy as we could. The mayor sought to counteract brain drain, and focused on the city's universities. Now Lisbon is full of young people from around the world—especially other European countries from where student enrollment has doubled—who take advantage of reasonably-priced, multilingual, international-standard higher education. This is an ideal strategy for Goa—and Goa University is doing a creditable job under vice chancellor Satish Shetye—but all the other institutions in the state could also be profitably ramped up to compete. To improve quality of life so that all these new students will stay on, and also to attract tourists, Lisbon focuses on cleanliness and the environment. It is remarkably garbage-free, and the once-seedy Tagus riverfront has been wonderfully upgraded with scenic walking and bicycle lanes, and broad promenades lined with new restaurants and nightclubs. The river itself has been cleaned up to such an extent that dolphins have returned to the city after decades, and recreational fishermen are ubiquitous again. Meanwhile Goa has gone in the exact opposite direction, with garbage accumulating everywhere. The main reservoir might be critically contaminated with manganese, but officialdom favours polluters over those who drink its water supply. Unlike the Tagus, the Mandovi dolphins are being actively driven away by law-violating casinos, and astonishingly high levels of fecal contamination that make the river dangerous for even humans to swim in. Rather than acknowledge and fix, Goa's government denies the obvious. Antonio Costa boosted Lisbon's economy by actively developing a hub for budget airlines like RyanAir and EasyJet. This option is on a platter for Goa from Air Asia's Tony Fernandes (whose father was also a Goan) but there are clear, ominous signs that it is another opportunity that is going to be squandered by a state leadership that talks new investment and new jobs, but seems actually interested in the same old land grabs, scam infrastructure-building, and greedy, corrupt nexuses that have destroyed so much of India's potential. We can see that it does not have to be this way, that there are alternatives. If the Goan mayor of Lisbon can achieve as much as he has in a time of dismal recession and cutbacks, and a national economic collapse, surely the 21st century Goan leadership can manage at least as much in a state that has every advantage, in a time of historic opportunity for state and country. History will judge whether this generation of government lived up to its challenges and opportunities. For now, in Goa unlike Lisboa, it is not looking good. (The writer is a widely published author and photographer.) -- #2, Second Floor, Navelkar Trade Centre, Panjim, Goa Cellphone 9326140754 Office (0832) 242 0785
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Re: [Goanet] What does your school PTA say about admitting kids with HIV?
On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: Doc, The crux of the matter here is that one cannot discriminate against another person just because you feel the other person may test positive for TB. COMMENT: Sorry to advise you, Mervyn. That is a rather convoluted method of justifying irresponsibility on the part of school and public health authorities. Every child must have a proper physical (followed by regular physicals) before entering school. This includes: Proof of Immunization and Mantoux ( TB test) Look up Canadian / UK / US primary School (or even Uni) entry requirements. Am I to understand that Mervyn is accepting liability for any infectious diseases which might occur because the basic preventive steps were NOT taken (if that be the case)? With regards Typhoid Mary. jc
[Goanet] Litter picker (Response to Roland Francis)
Dear Roland RF1: Harebrained idea. Better to stick to Cadbury Chocolates to take for people in Goa. MF1 response: Peter Cadbury is not the only chocolate manufacturer. However, his products are most preferred in Goa. Not that they have tasted any other to know the difference. Cadbury chocolates are also the most preferred by our community in Canada for giving them their wonderful Cadbury moments. All this contributes handsomely to Britain's invisible export earnings. In Canada I am sure the wrappings are properly disposed off while in Goa the people with bad habits would dump the wrappings contributing to the litter problem. Hence the need for the litter picker which can be manufactured with the spare iron ore creating jobs and a healthier population putting the pride back in Goa as it once was. Viva Save Goa. RF2: The litter picker. Seems good to pick up excrement, both human and animal. Specially after a bout with feni and sorpotel the previous night. MF2 response: Roland, it would be helpful to know how you came to this conclusion, was it another stray thought or did you use a formula as it would be useful to include it into the Rule Book for Stupido, a Goan family board game yet to be developed for all our people similar to Snakes and Ladders. You mentioned picking up of items but not how they are to be processed or disposed off as they are currently left for rat and disease infestation, as it is doctors are hard pressed. Good feni and properly made sorpotel, a peasant dish from Portugal and our national dish, with sana says plenty about us. In England I sometimes have the pleasure of meeting up with Johnny Walker, Arthur Guinness, Arthur Bells and a few others making variety the spice of life. In Goa there is only Directors drinking feni with Limca or Thumbs Up with crushed ice, a better alternative, to add to a refreshing holiday where the lungs can inhale proper oxygen and sea breeze. Melvyn Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 17 July 2014
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[Goanet] COMMUNITY AUDIO: Portuguese Citizenship/Nationality for Goans... the contentious issues
01:37:27 https://archive.org/details/prof-afonso-talk With so many Goans opting to reclaim Portuguese citizenship even five decades after Lisbon's rule ended here, the issue has been hotly debated -- and is seen to have social, political and other implications. Prof. Ave Cleto Afonso, translator of a book called *Portuguese Citizenship of Persons Born In The Erstwhile Estado Da India And Of Their Descendants*, spoke on this issue this week in Panjim. Afonso was hosted by the Goa Book Club. This meeting was held on Thursday, July 17, 2014, starting at 5 pm sharp. Afonso is also the author or translator of a number of other books, dealing with subjects like Goan laws, the Hindus of Goa, panchayati raj, tourism, Goan family laws, an Italian-Konkani dictionary, and even a response to Portugal's greatest poets in Camoean verse. Goa Book Club has an active online presence at http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club This audio is part of the collection: Community Audio Artist/Composer: Talk by Prof Ave Cleto Afonso, recorded by FN Date: 2014-07-17 Language: English Keywords: goa; citizenship; portugal; goa citizenship order; 1961; passports; migration; euro migration Creative Commons license: Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 https://archive.org/details/prof-afonso-talk FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] Jodhpur to Jaisalmer
Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'Jodhpur to Jaisalmer' An eventful evening. Memories of a drive in 2007 through the Thar Desert of Rajasthan heading west from Jodhpur to Jaisalmer. The village of Khichan is the winter destination for thousands of Demoiselle Cranes. It is a remarkable sight. You may view the latest post at http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2014/07/17/jodhpur-to-jaisalmer/ Best regards, Rajan Parrikar ra...@parrikar.com
[Goanet] Counting sports marks in the total
In the mark certificate of SSCE students the GBSHSE now indicates sports marks in the total with a plus sign .There appears to be some confusion, conflict, when two students get same total of marks, one with a plus sign attached and which signifies addition of sports marks Some educational heads of institutes are divided on their opinion that the percentage is considered for the purpose of admission and specially for professional courses and interest of the institute in sports It may not be so when academic awards are considered on the basis of the total marks obtained A reference was preferred by P.C.Trust on this specific issue to the Chairman of Goa Board. The response was that the Board has dispensed with the merit policy and further that academic and co-scholastic performance is recorded and endorsed by Head of Institution. The organisation can set its own criteria A public response is awaited as to the correct interpretation, whether sports marks can be ignored, overlooked for bestowing academic awards , when the two final total scores are identical but one with plus marks of sports Nelson Lopes, Chinchinim Chairman P.C.Trust
[Goanet] The history of early Goan emigration needs to be written (Eduardo Faleiro)
By Eduardo Faleiro lokseva...@gmail.com Sometime ago, I visited several villages and towns in the neighbouring districts of Maharashtra and Karnataka to meet people of Goan origin settled there. During the 16th and 17th centuries thousands of Goans, both Hindus and Christians, left Goa to escape religious and cultural persecution. In Goa, during that period, all possible obstacles were imposed on the practice of the local religions. Moreover, converts to Christianity could not easily change their deep rooted Indian way of life. The missionaries and the colonial administration would not tolerate this. For them Christianity meant Europeanisation and Christian religion, a part of the Western culture. The new Christians had to detach themselves from their cultural, social and natural environment. If they followed their own culture in any manner whatsoever they were arrested and tried by the Inquisition. This situation led both Hindus and a large number of converts to Catholicism to migrate in search of peace and a normal life. Epidemics as well as continuous wars waged by the Sultan of Bijapur, the Marathas and the Portuguese hastened the Goan exodus. Those early Goan migrants were mostly farmers. Today, many of their descendants are teachers, lawyers, doctors, engineers, Government officials, elected Government representatives and many others have joined the Defence forces. Descendants of the people who migrated to the neighbouring areas of Maharashtra are known there as Bardezkars, since their ancestors migrated mostly from Bardez. Their surname in school registers and revenue records appears as 'Bardezkar'. The progeny of those settled in Karnataka are called konkanes because they speak Konkani as well as Kannada. Hindus, Muslims and Christians in those areas participate in each other's religious festivals, weddings and other gatherings and there is hardly any difference in their social life and food habits. The then Union Minister of Youth Affairs, Jitendra Singh, agreed to our request for an Youth Exchange Programme so that the youth of Goan origin from the neighbouring areas might visit Goa and get acquainted with their roots and different facets of life here. The programme is aimed at youth in the age group of 18 to 30 years, future leaders, who have distinguished themselves in some field of activity. It is intended for the young generation to promote understanding and goodwill between the three States involved -- Goa, Maharashtra and Karnataka. Eleven youths of Goan origin settled in Azra, Kholapur district, visited Goa last year, and participated in a one week orientation programme to create awareness of different facets of life in Goa. They interacted with Goan youth, our academic and cultural institutions as well as with our elected representatives at different levels of Government. They visited the Goa University, met with the faculty and students and participated in several cultural and social events. Subsequently, a group of seven Goan youths visited Azra for a similar one week schedule and stayed with local families. The Nehru Yuvak Kendra conducted this programme. It is expected to be an annual feature. The history of the early Goan emigration needs to be written. The Xavier Centre of Historical Research has done some research on this subject. The University Grants Commission has funded a Chair on Diaspora Studies at the Goa University and it will also deal with this topic. Emigration of Goans continues to this day. The Department of NRI Affairs, Government of Goa, in collaboration with the National Centre for Development Studies released in 2008 a comprehensive Goa Migration Study. The Study found Goan diaspora settled in 43 countries with 56 percent in the Middle East, 13 percent in Europe, 11 percent in South and South East Asia and 10 percent in North America. About 7 percent of our emigrants work on board the ships. Among the emigrants, females are better educated than males. Some 36 percent of the female emigrants are graduates compared to 26 percent male emigrants. Remittances from our emigrants are estimated at Rs.700 crore and have a significant impact on our economy. Meanwhile, a growing apprehension is being voiced at the influx of migrants from elsewhere into Goa. Recently, one of our Ministers expressed concern that it may destroy Goa's demography and identity. To reduce such an influx there ought to be adequate employment opportunities for Goans in Goa. Our State has an increasingly educated work force and limited industrial growth. In the Sixties, tourism was identified as a key sector for Goa's development. However, Goa being a small State its carrying capacity in terms of its size, facilities available and ecological fragility needs to be
[Goanet] roland.fran...@ymail.com Re: Letter from Lisbon: Lessons for Goa
Very interesting views and observations Vivek. While there are some parallels between the natures of Lisbon and Goa, if Antonio Costa rates a nine on an index of ten, ten being the best, how would you rate Manohar Parrikar. The rating you give him will directly predict whether Goa lives up to the challenges and opportunities it meets. I would give him one on a scale of ten, but then, what do I know, I don't live there. Roland. Toronto. [MODERATOR's NOTE: Pls trim the digest before replying to it.]
