[Goanet] Review of the Twilight of the Exiles

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2021/08/twilight-review-by-shirley-gonsalves.html

I am sure they will appreciate the talent of the writer of this review!

Appreciate it would kindly share this on Goanet!

Many thanks Cyprian

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[Goanet] Fw: Dr Bertha de Souza

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Many thanks


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From: Cyprian Fernandes
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Subject: Dr Bertha de Souza

Appreciate your help in sharing this tribute to a very much loved and respected 
Goan.

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[Goanet] The late Elsie Antonette Maciel

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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The late Elsie Antonette 
Maciel
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Many thanks.

[Goanet] The Goan Club

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Dear Rose/Adolfo

Anyone who grew up Kenya and went to school would know that they
only reason why the clubs and parents could not promote Konkani
because there was a direction by the then colonial Minister for Education
that Asians should not speak their various vernaculars at home, even
with their parents. The reason for this was Asians children were growing
up with sometimes a hilarious version of English grammar. Translating
Indian vernaculars into English produced a generation of Indians,
Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and others of the ilk who were the butt of hilarity
for generations. This was not a problem for the Goans many of whom
spoke English with their children at home.

Konkani became the language parents spoke when they did not want the
children understand what they were saying.

Others excelled at English thanks to the excellent teachers we were blessed with
even though they ignored the government decree because they could not do
anything else as their parents did not know English. My brothers and sisters and
my many friends to this day remain proud sons and daughters of tailors, 
carpenters,
etc etc. We done good with English.

The majority of the members of Goan clubs spoke English. In fact, the Goan 
Institute
in Nairobi allowed  membership only to those who could read and write English 
(to keep the
lower caste Konkani speaking riff raff out, mainly tailors, carpenters, etc).

However, most Goan adults (the vanishing tribesmen of the time) spoke
English and it was for their needs that Konkani concerts were held. But these 
were not
necessarily organised by the clubs but by various individuals such the wonderful
all-round sportsman and a disciple of the GI Nairobi, Jack Fernandes. Greg 
Carvalho,
who has been doing the same thing in the UK, a son of  a  tailor, began his
apprenticeship in Kenya.

I am not an expert at this, but didn't some Goans choose to speak Portuguese as 
an
elevation of their class and as a separation from non-Portuguese speaking Goans?

For some in Kenya, English was a class thing to build an passable drawbridge 
between
them other Goans.

Just for the record.

[Goanet] Tributes to Kenyan Goan Icon Dr Manu D'Cruz

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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Cyprian Fernandes

[Goanet] corrected version: The Fitz de Souza memoir

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Forward to Independence, the long-awaited memoir by the outstanding Goan lawyer 
and parliamentarian, Fitz de Souza, is available on Amazon. I am absolutely 
delighted with it and I would urge anyone who has had even the flitting 
interest in Kenyan politics, Kenyan-Goan nostalgia and role that Fitz de Souza 
played in the early life independent Kenya … please read this book. It will 
also prove a worthwhile eye-opener for the sons and daughters and ex-East 
African Goans. Fitz has a delightful writing style, sort of emulates the person 
that he is. It is his journey which starts with his ancestors in Goa, his 
father’s move to Zanzibar and family’s life …and there is heaps and heap more 
revel in. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I am doing. The Kindle version is 
very inexpensive.

[Goanet] John J. D'Souza Norman Da Costa Merwin D'Z

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2019/03/john-j-dsouza-by-norman-da-costa-and.html
JOHN J D'SOUZA by Norman Da Costa and Merwin 
D'Souza
John de Souza – a Goan icon By Norman Da Costa and Merwin de Souza  
John de Souza was an indefatigable soul who, like ...
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[Goanet] John J. D'Souuza unfinished conversations

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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[Goanet] John J. D'Souza

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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John J. D'Souza a Canadian Goan 
icon
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[Goanet] The late Tony Almeida, renowned architect

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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Tony Almeida: a world renowned 
architect
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Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] ON FRIDAY: Seminar on “Making of Goan Identity” Organised by Department of History Goa University Date: 15th March 2019 Venue: Faculty of Social Sciences Building Goa Unive

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Fred, any chance of getting a set of the presentations?

Cyprian


From: Goanet-News  on behalf of Frederick 
Noronha 
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2019 3:12 AM
To: Goanet
Subject: [Goanet-News] ON FRIDAY: Seminar on “Making of Goan Identity” 
Organised by Department of History Goa University Date: 15th March 2019 Venue: 
Faculty of Social Sciences Building Goa University

Seminar on “Making of Goan Identity”
Organised by Department of History Goa University
Date: 15th March 2019
Venue: Faculty of Social Sciences Building Goa University


Itinerary of the Seminar on 15th March 2019

Registration 9.15 a.m. to 9.30a.m.
Inaugural Programme 9.30 a.m. to 10.00 am
Traditional Song by Students
Welcome Address: Prof. Nagendra Rao, Head, Department of History, Goa
University
Floral Welcome

Address by the Chief Guest: Prof. Silvia Noronha, Dean, Faculty of Social
Sciences, Goa University
Vote of Thanks :

---Break for refreshment

2
Parallel Technical Session I Time: 10.15 A.M to 11.45 A.M.
Venue: Seminar Hall Faculty of Social Sciences building
Chairperson: Prof. N. Shyam Bhat- Department of History Goa University
1. Dr. Joseph Velinkar: Making of Goan Identity (The Kunnbis)
2. Ms. Maria de Lourdes Bravo da Costa: Xit-coddy ani Nustem: A Goan Food
Trilogy as a Democratic Trait of Identification
3. Dr. Sushila Sawant Mendes: The Mell of Assolna, Velim and Baradi: A
Syncretistic Representation of Identity
4. Dr. Ananya Chakravarti (Georgetown University, Washington D.C.) Caste,
Geography and Language: Two Views of Marathi in the Seventeenth Century

Parallel Technical Session I Time: 10.15 A.M to 11.45 A.M.
Venue: BF-30 MA Part I Class Room
Chairperson: Prof. Pratima Kamat- Professor Department of History, Goa
University
1. Irene Silveria: Fostering Goan Identity through Sport and Festivity
2. Dr. Seema S. Risbud: An Alternative to Satyagraha: Azad Gomantak Dal and
Idea of Armed Struggle
3. Natasha Gomes: Demystifying Goenkarponn in Foreign Language Textbooks:
Ideological Discourse in French and Portuguese Textbooks by the Goa Board
of Secondary and Higher Secondary Education.
4. Dr. Padmaja Kamat: Promoting Strategies for Temple Centred Strategies in
Goa

Parallel Technical Session II Time: 11.45 A.M to 1.00P.M.
Venue: Seminar Hall Faculty of Social Sciences building
Chairperson: Dr. Sushila Sawant Mendes- Associate Professor Department
of History Government College Quepem

3
1. Dr. Pedro Pombo: Water, Soil and Cultural Cartographies: Sensing Goa
Through its Cultural Landscapes
2. Ms. Scarlet Ava Fernandes: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro’s Construction of a
Goan Identity in “Tivolem”
3. Shri Franz Schubert Agnelo de Miranda Cotta: Making of Goan Identity:
>From Identity Crisis to Affirmation of Identity and the Common Goan
Stereotypes

Parallel Technical Session II Time: 11.45 A.M to 1.00P.M.
Venue: BF-30 MA Part I Class Room
Chairperson: Dr. Padmaja Kamat- Associate Professor Department of History
PES Shri Ravi Naik College of Arts & Science Farmagudi Ponda
1. Shri Christopher De Souza: Craftsmen and Some Aspects of Economic
Organisation in the Goa Region (AD 1000 to 1510)
2. Shri Vinay Madgaonkar: ‘Jagor’ of Shivoli : Folk Festival Hindus and
Catholics
3. Dr. Varsha V. Kamat: Rural Society and Memory of Identity: A Case Study
of Village Cavelossim

--LUNCH BREAK 

Parallel Technical Session III Time: 2.00 P.M to 3.45P.M.
Venue: Seminar Hall Faculty of Social Sciences building
Chairperson: Shri Parag D. Parobo – Associate Professor in History, Goa
University, Goa.
1. Prof. Pratima Kamat: Goan Identity as Goa Studies: The Historical
Development of Scholarship in Goa
2. Shri Balaji Shenvy: Goan Identity and Party Politics
3. Ms. Dolwyn Braganza: A Socio-Historic Approach on the Chuddo and
Caconnkar

Parallel Technical Session III Time: 2.00 P.M to 3.45P.M.

4

Venue: BF-30 MA Part I Class Room
Chairperson: Ms. Maria de Lourdes Bravo da Costa
1. Ms. Kshama Dharwardkar : Juxtaposition of Goan identity in Margaret
Mascarenhas' Skin and Shyam Benegal's Trikal".
2. Ms. Dipika Bhomkar: Lairai Devi the Gramdevata of Shirgao Goa
3. Dr. Remy Dias: Understanding Goa’s Transition to Democracy From the
First Legislative Assembly to the Opinion Poll, 1963-67

---TEA BREAK 

Parallel Technical Session IV Time: 4.00 P.M to 5.00 P.M.
Venue: Seminar Hall Faculty of Social Sciences building
Chairperson: Dr. Remy Dias – Associate Professor in History, Quepem
College, Goa.
1. Ms. Loraine E B Albereto: Music in the Making of a True Goan Identity:
Composers from Island of Divar
2. Shri Evereth Fernandes: The Making of the Consumerist Goan in The Goan
World Periodical (1924-1939)
3. Ms. Poornima Vithal Naik: From Raya of Sunda to the Saundekar of
Bandora: A Journey of Kings in the Search Goan Identity

Parallel Technical Session IV Time: 4.00 PM to 5.15 PM
Venue: BF-30 MA Part I Class Room
Chairperson: 

[Goanet] Tribute to late Steve Fernandes

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2019/01/london-farewell-for-joker-steve.html

[Goanet] Pio Gama Pinto: a comprehensive review

[Cyprian Fernandes]

[Goanet] In Memorium Steve Fernandes

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2018/12/steve-fernandes-photo-tribute.html?fbclid=IwAR14Ktb6tqyEbWW9CECRKFxpW79HFXkym4obWZefbX_1pQG2nKPLcC1r0dU
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Steve Fernandes Photo 
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[Goanet] A review of Souls, Spices and Sex

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2018/12/the-portuguese-mixed-blood-and-lots-more.html

[Goanet] A companion piece to a review of Souls, Spices and Sex

[Cyprian Fernandes]

https://www.headlinesofmylife.today/2018/12/moira-anthropology-of-goan-village.html

[Goanet] R Steve Fernandes

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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[Cyprian Fernandes]

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In Memoriam Xavier Vienna 
RIP
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[Goanet] Emma Gama Pinto

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Emma Gama Pinto
(Excerpts from the book)
Pio’s detention on Manda Island: Pio told later that he built a small shelter 
against scorching sun and a simple bed. The land was destitute of vegetation 
and there were no facilities when he got there. A daily ration of food was 
barely enough to suffice for one meal. He went on a hunger strike, but after 
nine days realised that it would hurt prisoners nothing more. They would die 
like dogs for the all the authorities cared. The prisoners were sullen and 
dejected. Pio met some of his old friends there … Achieng Oneko and others and 
they set about improving the morale of the 9000 men on the island prison. They 
organised games and tried to catch fish, turtles and the like to supplement 
their impoverished diet. After pleading with the authorities, I was allowed to 
write to my husband once a month but the letter would be censored. His reply 
would be censored. I received permission to send Pio literature. He asked for 
the works of Shakespeare and (George Bernard) Shaw. Later Pio said the books 
kept him from committing suicide. Everything he had, he shared with his 
friends, even my letters.
Our home: We had little finances. Pio sadly confessed that the money given by 
my father had been used as part-payment for a printing press which he wanted to 
operate as the voice of the people. The press was lost as soon as Pio was 
arrested. On his release from restriction in 1960, Pio asked Oginga Odinga 
(head of the Kenya People’s Union and arch opponent of Jomo Kenyatta) to help 
him buy a house. It was more like a hotel –we had people coming and going and 
dropping in for a meal at all hours. Pio would have political refugees from 
Angola and South Africa spend a night or two and listen to their accounts of 
their situation.
No African who came to the house was turned away –if they needed school fees 
for their children, advice or just a letter written to a relative or government 
official, Pio lent a hand. They were his brothers, and I mean brothers. He knew 
the weaknesses of some of them but felt they would see reason enough if 
temporarily they did not put their country first. From the start of his 
interest in Kenya politics, Pio understood clearly that the African cause must 
be carried by Africans. He identified with the Africans completely and secretly 
suffered anguish that he was no born and African. He preferred to work behind 
the scenes, but he did not work in isolation. He consulted with lawyers, 
economists and politicians before planning his work.  He chose his non-African 
friends carefully for what they could contribute to the cause.
Despite the fact that Pio vehemently worked against those opposed to the 
African freedom movement, he did not harbour rancour against any individual. I 
never once heard him raise his voice in anger or swear at anyone, he called 
them blind or stupid in their policies. He was once given a pistol for 
protection … he promptly buried it in the garden. Later when he heard that one 
of his friends was in danger, he dug the weapon up and gave it to his friend 
for protection.
On the Goans in Kenya:
Pio and I had attended a few social functions after his release from detention 
and even though several men forward to hear about his “detention” there was 
little evidence of their sympathy for the detainees.
When the Portuguese anthem was played at the end of an occasion, Pio could 
guess where their allegiance lay. He had painted a sketch of Kenya’s road in 
the struggle for freedom and left it to them to pursue a course. Mr J. M 
Nazareth Q.C. and a few others were already on the road.
Later we did not attend Goan functions, so I was not aware of the view they had 
of Pio. Even after Pio’s assassination I did not feel that I belonged to the 
Goan community. I do not fault the community –it is just that we had other 
interests and concerns. I was happy with an Asian who understood and helped 
Pio’s work.
Goa: Pio and a small group of Kenya politicians including Tom Mboya and Joe 
Murumbi flew to India around 1961 and met with Pandit Nehru. The agenda 
included the liberation of Goa as well as funds for a printing press in Kenya 
(to provide the African political viewpoint). Funds were granted, and Pio went 
on to set up the Pan African Press. Subsequently, Pio and Fitz De Souza 
attended Goa’s liberation celebrations. There are some Goans who applaud Pio’s 
small contribution for Goa.

[Goanet] Pio Gama Pinto Book Review

[Cyprian Fernandes]

.”
The imperialist manipulation of Kenya’s politics provided the momentum that 
ultimately led to the assassination of Pio Gama Pinto, according to the book.
It was in the corridors of Parliament where Pinto’s fate was sealed.  “It was 
around Sessional Paper No.10 of 1965: African Socialism and its implications 
for Planning in Kenya that the polarisation between Pio and KANU erupted 
exacerbated by revelations of misappropriation of funds by the Kenyatta regime.
“The paper, written by an American Edgar O. Edwards, despite its claims of 
socialism was a perfect articulation of how subservient capitalism would be 
developed in the post-independence period. It was in opposition to this text 
that Pio wrote a counter proposal which, had he not been assassinated, could 
very well led, some believe, to the removal of Kenyatta as president through a 
vote of confidence and the emergence of Odinga as the new president.”
Fitz De Souza: “He had falling out with the Powers that Be and he got into a 
shouting match with Kenyatta over what was perceived as land grabbing by those 
in power. He refused to participate in such things as he was all for equality.”
There was also the issue about missing money which was given to Government.
Pheroze Nowrojee: “This money was not distributed to these ex-freedom fighters 
and ex-detainees for whom it was intended. Instead a few powerful persons 
pocketed it. Pio vehemently opposed this. He spoke out against this betrayal of 
the freedom struggle. He said he would raise the matter in Parliament to ensure 
the sums be paid over to the ex-freedom fighters and ex-detainees. The powerful 
persons saw such an exposure as a threat to their wealth and their positions. 
They decided to get rid of Pio.”
The money in question was “grants and loans for development, land settlement, 
compensation for overseas officers and administration (12,400,000 pounds) from 
Britain.
In the final analysis, according to Durrani, “the imperialist manipulation of 
Kenya’s politics provided the momentum that ultimately led to the assassination 
of Pio Gama Pinto. Thus, the responsibility for this death lies not only with 
the Government of Kenya but also with the British Government whose policy and 
actions supported the Western-oriented Government.
“The assassination was part of the overall imperialist plot to ensure Kenya 
remained in the capitalist camp managed by the key imperialist powers USA and 
Britain.”
As I said this is a huge banquet of Kenya’s emergent history. I hope every man, 
woman and child gets to read this some time in their lives. There are some 
important lessons to ponder, celebrate some of the men and women who lived and 
died in the cause of freedom and to look anew at life as we know it.
There is an interview with Emma Gama Pinto by Frederick Noronha, and another by 
Benegal Pereira. Pio’s late brother Rosario’s memoir is also featured as are 
the memories of Angelo Faria. There are also several contributions by members 
of the family.
Naturally, this book is a monument to Pio Gama Pinto and his once socialist 
ideals for a Kenya without capitalism. Shiraz Durrani, the book editor, makes 
no apology for that.
Cyprian Fernandes is a former Chief Reporter of the Nation and knew Pio Gama 
Pinto and most of the people mentioned in this book. He is also the author of 
Yesterday in Paradise, and Stars Next Door. You can read more of his stories at 
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[Goanet] Pio Gama Pinto Book Review

[Cyprian Fernandes]

[Goanet] Three dramatic stories about the Pio Gama Pinto book editor Shiraz Duranni Please share!

[Cyprian Fernandes]

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[Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Histories of Goan associations in the diaspora

[Cyprian Fernandes]

I wonder if you would be kind enough to post the following for me:

I am attempting bring together the histories of Goan associations around the 
world, especially those with an Eastern African content from migration to the 
present time on my website 
www.headlinesofmylife.today. I would also 
like to celebrate the men and women who deserve our respect and admiration for 
their contribution to the community. I would appreciate it if subscribers to 
Goanet UK (a) would participate and (b) share these with like-minded people. I 
am not interested in a criticial appraisal of the Goan past, the failures or 
the sins, this is not the place for it. I will that, if they wish, to the 
people at the helm. I hope you will accept this in the spirit with which I 
pursue it, without prejudice, so the second and third generations can have a 
conversation about the "first pioneers" and their contribution and 
achievements. Replies to skip...@live.com.au. With thanks.

[Goanet] Kenya 1914-1990s

[Cyprian Fernandes]

You might want to show this may add some Kenya music like Malaika
lots available on YouTube 
 

 
A LOOK AT KENYA THROUGH THE YEARS - PictureBlog 1914 - 1990s   Cyprian 

  

[Goanet] Jambo

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Bwana Karani,
 
Would you by any chance have an email address for Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes?
 
Thanks
 
Hope both of you are fine.
 
Cyprian 
  

Re: [Goanet] Malaika... which one?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

You haven't got the best one, the original by the songwriter Fadhili 
Williams!


Cyprian


From: fredericknoron...@gmail.com

Over the last month or so, my reading took me (on a virtual tour) to East
Africa. Otherwise, have only been there once (to Uganda, Entebbe, Kampala
and the lovely banks of Lake Victoria in 2005... great memories). So 
here's

some YouTube sound to share with you. Please vote and tell which Malaika
you like the best: 

[Goanet] Vale John Mascarenhas

[Cyprian Fernandes]

 Former Ugandan Aureo John Macarenhas who passed away in Sydney this week was a 
very specail kind of Goan.In a community which is often more vocal for its 
petty bickering, squabbling, cheap shots and a penchant for theunkindest cuts 
of all, John was an oasis of peace and calm. By his nature and leadership, he 
inspired a whole community, including its many young through his work with 
Toastmasters. He served the Goan Association wellas an elegant and detail 
specific auditor for many years (he was a much admired and respected accountant 
inSydney) and later as an honoured trustee. Needless to say he made hundreds of 
friends.  John was one of life’s rare human beings. When roll call is read out 
at the  final judgment, it will indeed say: This wasa very good man indeed. He 
was a softly spoken man, given to quiet thought  and considered calculation. He 
had an open mind and listened to the variety of argument and disposition in 
life.  He considered every thought, idea, argument, campaign, with a feast of 
fairness and justice. And he manned up  to his point of view and defended it 
inthe interest of justice for all. He may not have been a saint, but in the  
eyes of the many people he touched and thosethat came to respect and love him, 
he did indeed come close. He was a big  man, endowed with a large heart full 
ofcharity, kindness and caring for everyone who came his way. It is a cliche  
these days to say “ I am glad he came intomy life and shared his thoughts and 
ideas.” but it is true. I cry a little  for myself and others like me who will 
missa magnificent human being. Fare thee well, dear John, you were great in  
this life. For Ivy, his wideow, I wish you strength, God’s  grace, and 
fortitude to continue as John would have wanted you to. My sincere condolences 
to his children Kevin, Carol, Derek.  What a man, what a friend, what a quiet 
hero! Cyprian Fernandes
  

[Goanet] FW: Kenya National Theatre

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Enjoy!
 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:32:27 +1300
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Kenya National Theatre
From: edwinandivydeso...@gmail.com
To: edwinandivydeso...@gmail.com

Sharing - as I enjoyed this thoroughly - sure to get you thinking Swahili!!
Asante sana 
Ivy

-- Forwarded message --


On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM, francis noronha fnoro...@telusplanet.net 
wrote:









Not quite Shakespeare but I thought you would enjoy this 
comedy routine. Some interesting sidebar items as well.
 
Francis
 








 




 

Subject: Kenya National Theatre



 


Sit back 
and enjoy this clasic Kenyan comedy.. 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWbCYikb-bE






  

[Goanet] Just Matata

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Just Matata

Sin, Saints and Settlers

A novel set in Goa and Kenya

Braz Menezes

 

For four hours at a medical centre in Sydney, Australia, I
was a skinny runt of a kid back in Nairobi, Kenya, Eastleigh to be precise. My
guide was a young Goan boy, Orlando aka Lando, who is the hero of Braz Menezes’
charming contribution to Goan historical fiction. While I have no doubt
whatsoever that it is historical fiction, I am somehow fixated that it is an
autobiographical work. It has all the hallmarks, but it isn’t.

Braz’s attention to detail in both Kenya and Goa had me smiling
a lot. I knew Plums Lane where Lando lived with his family. I also visited the 
Nairobi
Museum, St Francis Xavier’s Church in Parklands and a myriad sights, sites,
sounds, and people who were a part of both our childhoods. What is more, this
is a very important contribution to the historical record of growing up in
Kenya from Braz’s own perspective and he paints a detail rich portrait.

There are some great moments and I will only provide you with
the entrée and you will have pick up a copy of the book to enjoy the main
courses. For example, I almost fell out of my seat when Lando went to the
confessional and blurted out that he had committed adultery. Hey, hang on a
minute, this kid is only 10 years old, barely old enough for sex, let alone
adultery. As I said, it is a juicy story and the explanation is worthy of the
read.

This is a “like” kind of book about a generally happy boy,
growing up in a generally happy family surrounded by generally happy kind of
people and places. Utopia? Not really, it was that kind of a life for the
middle class family whose breadwinner was a middle class white collar of some
note. They made no waves, political, economic or social and went about their
lives dedicated to church, work and family. It was also a generally happy kind
of place. The late 1930s and early 1940s was a time when everything in Kenya
was at its happiest. African nationalism had barely raised an eyebrow and
colonialism flourished with an abandon that is only the stuff of paperback
literature.

It was also a time when each of the participants of this
cosmopolitan country went about the business of separate development. There was
some contact, at the lowest possible social level: the personal friendship 
level.
The Roman Catholic Goan showed equal empathy with the Hindu, the Sikh, the
Muslim, the Parsee, the Ismaili and a variety of minor players. Sure we loved
the Hindu vegetarian thali, the Sikh chicken curries, the Ismaili samosas and
bhajjias and Muslim kebabs. Our fathers had the odd scotch or two with the
other Indians or they went to get their car fixed, get some work done on the
house or a new dining table or wardrobe built.

Just as Lando does in this story, the friendship is sublime
yet true as such innocence does allow.

It is this same innocence that grapples with life in ancient
Goa where Lando has to endure and taste life without many of Africa’s luxuries.
For a young non-resident Goan, life in Goa is challenging in all its aspects
and perhaps it was the same for the thousands of young boys who were forced to
go to school in Goa by their well-meaning fathers. This is the year of the
sublime Goa where life is susegaad and nothing more but the coconut harvest,
the cashew harvest, the mango harvest and there is a harvest for every season.
Green paddies pocked marked the whole country and there were coconut groves
everywhere. There were very few cars if any and the bicycle was king. 

“What is that makes Dad yearn for the day he can retire back
in Goa? How could he possibly go backwards and give up all this progress? Could
I ever live in Goa at that incredibly slow pace of life? Where do I belong? It
would take me a lifetime to learn how to cope in Goa. Those are Lando’s
thoughts and similar to the questions that tore apart thousands of real young
minds.

Lando returns from Goa with a head and heart full of
experience but delighted to be back in Kenya just as the first wafts of the
winds of change as kissing beautiful Kenya. Soon life will never be the same
but a memory. Perhaps that is the stuff of another book!

For a copy of the book click on //www.matatabooks.com

 

  

[Goanet] FW: post

[Cyprian Fernandes]

 From: skip...@live.com.au
To: mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com
Subject: post
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:52:28 +1030








Dear Mervyn,
 
Would you mind removing the most recent post I inadvertently sent to your 
Goanet address.
 
You have done a marvellous job in highlighting the pioneering spirit of the 
Goan in the Kenya
Civil Service. Bwana Karani speaks also for the Goans in Tanzania and Uganda. 
These were 
among the great Goans of East Africa. Being the backbone of the British 
colonial service, Goans
played a huge part in helping the British stay in control. That is the 
greatness by a vast array
of people in different professions that made the East African Goan the unique 
tribe they are.
 
I will not be able to go into it in any kind of depth but I hope bring to the 
fore a few names
that otherwise may have disappeared from the horizons of history completely.
 
Thanks again,
 
Cyprian

  

[Goanet] (no subject)

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Who were your greatest East African Goans? By any yardstick: Sport, 
entrepreneurs, academics, politicians, religious, community leaders? Dr R. 
Ribeiro, Pio Gama Pinto, Fitz De Souza, Seraphino Antao, The Goudhinos, Tom 
Fernandes, Felix Pinto ...?  I am trying to write the stories of at leasttwo of 
them, others would also be filip. Help!  

In two or three decades, the once formidable East African
Goan will be but a dim memory in the minds of their current descendants. The
march of time will wipe them out of living time and relegate them to scraps of 
almost
photographs and written material fondly preserved amongst the family’s
memorabilia. Many of these wonderful people, a collection of the first group of
pioneer (late 1800s) accountants, book keepers,  clerks, civil servants and 
senior civil
servants, engineers, agriculturalists, journalists, tailors, carpenters, and
their children who went on to achieve even greater things than their humble
parents, have already passed on to the forgotten pages of history. As time
marches on, even more will join the lot of the forgotten.

Sadly there is no complete cumulative history of the East
African Goan for future generations to peruse and remember. There is no gift
from Goan academia, a concise history of the East African Goan, to appease and
hold forth strongly the memory in time immemorial. Instead, there are
worthwhile but minor individual efforts, written in the author’s limited but
valued perspective. We are watching our history vanish be our very own eyes and
we seem powerless to do anything about it. It may even be there is no will to
hang to the memories that made us what we are and generations that grew up as
the descendants of migrants in Europe, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand
have no need to hang to the past.

Will they remember that there were two types of the East African
Goan tribe?  The migrants: those that
were forced to leave (thrown out, expelled), those that left of their own
choice, some out of bigotry, others out of pure racism, and yet others out of
small mindedness and complete lack of faith in human nature, and yet others who
saw no future for their children in a black ruled Africa?

And the other tribe, perhaps the greatest of the East
African Goans,  were those that stayed
and carved out a niche for themselves. These were the new pioneers who walked
the tightrope of politics that sometimes bordered on madness, where lives hung
by a thread and death was often at the whim of madmen (as in Idi Amin’s
Uganda). The early days of Kenyan politics was not a doddle either but somehow
the Goans managed to survive. No, not only survive but flourish.

Alongside Seraphino
Antao, Pio Gama Pinto, Dr Ribeiro, Fitz De Souza, I would consider Felix Pinto
and Tom Fernandes amongst the greatest of East African Goans.

  

[Goanet] (no subject)

[Cyprian Fernandes]

[Goanet] CONTROVERSY: The
unique East African Goan tribe ... The making of an East African Goan dodderer!

Carvalho

Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:53:49 -0700

I'm happy to see
Cyprian's mail shot into cyberspace with Goanet reader titled in bold,
CONTROVERSY. Nothing sells like controversy even in Goan cyberspace. Those who
write controversial stuff must be writhing in pain knowing their articles
seldom get so much mileage.

 

Cyprian: The word ‘controversy’ was not of my choosing.

 

It is true that I
referred to the East African Goan as aging and doddery (as in trembling with
age). I had no idea at the time that referring to a community as aging would
cause such a brou ha ha. I certainly didn't mean to hurt anyone. After all, I
wasn't writing something particularly contentious, libel, accusatory,
inflamatory or derogatory about this community. I had no idea, it was indeed a
crime to age. 

 

Cyprian: You would have be pretty naïve think that would not hurt. I am
disappointed that I had to take you to task over it. I think the greater shame
lies with your editor and chief sub-editor. Someone should have picket it
especially during the process of risk analysis. A professional journalist has
that fail safe built into his or her DNA.

 

Anyone who knows my
writing for the past seven years knows that I don't do sensationalism. That I
am, at the core a quiet writer preferring to mull over things. That I have
managed to write for the past seven years, more prominently for the past five,
without causing hurt or calls for libel and defamation suits, I hold to my
credit. It is however impossible to be a writer and not err occasionally. To
cause hurt without meaning too. No writer, worth his salt, has not erred
occassionally, or not used words that are in hindsight inappropriate. And if I
have caused hurt, unintended as it was, I apologise. 

 

Cyprian: I have made up share of mistakes as part of the learning
process, in public, in print. I have learnt my lessons and moved on with a
thick skin. So should you.

 

However, what is
particularly hurtful to me, is that instead of remembering a record of four
years of service to the East African Goan community of London, which has
resulted in countless GoanVoice UK columns praising them, one book drawing
their ethnographies, securing funds to record their oral histories, partnering
with institutions to archive them, travelling on foot, car, train and bus
carrying lumbersom equipment until I was physically sick, to record them,
working day and night to transcribe them, producing a documentary and currently
working on a publication to preserve these stories, I am pilloried without
redemption. 

 

Writing should
elicit a rebuttal. That is the main purpose of writing. It shouldn't however
elicit a crusade -- mostly led by people who have an axe to grind.

 

That a short and
fragile memory is also a Goan thing, is sad.

 

Cyprian: I take no pleasure in challenging your mistakes. In fact the
opposite were true, such as praising you for something noteworthy. You have
done the honourable thing by apologising and admitting the error of judgment.
You should complete the process by having your apology published in the
GoanVoice and OHeraldo.

 

As my mother always
reminds me - today is a sad day, don't worry my darling, something better will
happen tomorrow.

 

Best,

selma carvalho

 

  

[Goanet] Sad news

[Cyprian Fernandes]

It is the with the greatest sadness that I have to tell of the passing of one 
of the nicest people
you were ever to meet: Julie Pereira, wife of the late Ben Pereira and mother 
Andi and Gilbert
and grandmother to their children. She bade this world farewell today. I will 
never forget that eternal
smile or that hearty laugh. Now she is at rest from this world. Mourn not for 
her reward will be
eternal peace. Condolences to all members of the family.
 
Cyprian

  

[Goanet] Avaaz - Stop the Serengeti Sell-off

[Cyprian Fernandes]

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_maasai/
  

[Goanet] FW: PEELING BACK THE MASK (pdf version)

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Brilliant! Must read.
 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:45:01 -0700
Subject: PEELING BACK THE MASK (pdf version)
From: fssom...@gmail.com
To: 

Finally now we can read difficult to get book that's currently the talk of 
Kenya:Peeling Back the Mask 
A QUEST FOR JUSTICE IN KENYA

by Miguna Miguna (on pdf)
Sultan Somjee
સુલતાન સોમજી 
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader-Debate: There is no evidence of a Goan dream in the UK (Melvyn Fernandes)

[Cyprian Fernandes]

I am impressed with both MM's perspective of the early life of the 
Goan immigrant to the UK. Like Mervyn, I found the transition pretty
seamless, but I know it was not easy for everyone. I am indebted 
to both writers for providing worthwhile insights rather than the banal

videos I have seen recently.

Cyprian Fernandes
skipfer at live.com.au

Re: [Goanet] A gift... of Goan books to Karachi

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Selma wrote: However getting back to England,  we have a lot of Goan bulbuls 
here known to flap their wings but seldom fly.
Comment: Coward! Name them. Or don't make these cheap, throw-away one liners. 
Cyprian
  Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:34:04 -0700
 From: elisabeth_...@yahoo.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] A gift... of Goan books to Karachi
 
 Frederick dear,
 Far be it from me to get into a debate about the semantics of Marxism with 
 you. I have and always will be a committed capitalist. There is no need to 
 thank me for my practical help. In capitalism everything bears fruit in its 
 own time. Capitalism has its own zen theory.
  
 However getting back to England,  we have a lot of Goan bulbuls here known to 
 flap their wings but seldom fly.
  
 Incidentally, your nostalgic rendering of life in Goa kudds might be coloured 
 by your need to believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch in life. 
 However, a closer analysis of these kudds will reveal that they reveled in 
 the basic capitalistic principle of exploitation of labour. Cheap labour 
 coming in from Goan villages was immediately funneled onto ships and 
 factories. Nobody did this service for free. There were recruiting agents 
 attached to every kudd, who exacted their pound of flesh. The idea that kudds 
 created social capital without a cost is utterly and dismally misguided.
  
 Best,
 selma
  

[Goanet] The melvyn-carmen debate (?)

[Cyprian Fernandes]

 Re: Justice Shah Commission of Inquiry finally comes to Goa!  Response to 
Carmen Miranda by Melvyn Fernandes Dear Melvyn, Let's not miss the wood for the 
trees: (let's focus on the things we need to do)
 
1. What is illegal in the mining industry, how is it being dealt with by the 
judiciary, and what preventative actions are being taken by the Government and 
people of Goa? In other words, how is the industry being stripped of 
corruption? How are the corrupt being brought to task? Who is shutting down the 
illegal mines?
 
2. The world has moved on to sustainable development decades ago. It is vital 
to bring Goa into the 21st century.
 
3. From what I have read, environmental protection in Goa is way below par, 
sometimes almost farcical in that the left hand does not know what the right 
hand is doing, worse what the right or left hand should be doing. There is a 
need for demarcate the instrument responsible for policing and prosecution of 
law breakers.
 
4. The developed world has many examples, especially Australia and the US, for 
stringent controls of mining and airtight environment protection. We can learn 
from the world.
 
We can achieve what is good for Goa without polluting the well-intended with 
empty rhetoric.
 
Cyprian

  

Re: [Goanet] Unending discussions...

[Cyprian Fernandes]

I find myself scratching my head a lot these days! Cyprian
  From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:13:11 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Unending discussions...
 
 I think the problem stems from not knowing when enough is enough, and
 gracefully giving someone else the chance to have the last word. Would you
 agree? FN
 
 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
 
 
 
 On 11 September 2011 23:02, Richard  Betsy Nunes
 sourcing.nu...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  So, so, so true !!
  Thank you. Santa sana.
  The Nunes
 
 
  Sir,
  The discussions on Goanet seem to be sinking to a level where recipients
  must be wondering as to why matters like 'walking half-a kilometre 
  barefoot
  in Margao', 'tyre bust on an air India plane', corruption  of children
  paintings' etc are carried on 'ad infinitum'
 
 
  

[Goanet] Church investigates Goan sex abuse case

[Cyprian Fernandes]

The Provincial of the Irish Spiritans (Holy Ghost Fathers) will investigate 
allegations ofsex abuse of young Goans boys at the St Teresa's Boys School in 
Eastleigh, Nairobi. Read the full story at www.cyprianfernandes.blogspot.com  
share it with your contacts.  

Re: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Eugene, Where did you see these details? Please forward. Thanks Cyprian
  Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:48:43 +0400
 From: eugene.corr...@gmail.com
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project
 
 Can anyone on this forum inform me if the GOA UK approached Dr. Stella
 Mascarenhas-Keyes to head the heritage project. I think Stella has more
 credentials that Selma Carvalho, who has been mentioned as the lead
 researcher of the team, as Stella is a recognized expert on migration
 studies. True that Selma has penned a book on Goan diaspora but that really
 does not establish her as a researcher with the professionalism that Stella
 would bring to the job. If Stella leads the team it would give the British
 Goans  heritage project an authoritarian stamp.
 
 
 Eugene Correia
  

Re: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project

[Cyprian Fernandes]

I agree. An East African Goan would have the history, uniqueness and the 
flavourof life built into the DNA. The preliminary research would not need to 
be done because an East African Goan would have lived it and understood it as a 
second skin. In these circumstances, the experiences recorded would be richer 
and in-flavour about the people you writing about. If you are not one of them, 
you are an outsider. Cyprian
  Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:43:12 +0100
 From: gabe.mene...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project
 
 On 6 September 2011 09:48, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Can anyone on this forum inform me if the GOA UK approached Dr. Stella
  Mascarenhas-Keyes to head the heritage project. I think Stella has more
  credentials that Selma Carvalho, who has been mentioned as the lead
  researcher of the team, as Stella is a recognized expert on migration
  studies. True that Selma has penned a book on Goan diaspora but that really
  does not establish her as a researcher with the professionalism that Stella
  would bring to the job. If Stella leads the team it would give the British
  Goans  heritage project an authoritarian stamp.
 
 
  Eugene Correia
 
 
 RESPONSE: According to what was put out; Mrs Carvalho did the ground work
 for obtaining the Heritage Grant. So naturally, it was a given that she
 would do the job. Then just to make things look kosher, an advertisement was
 put out, so that the person applying would fit the frock!
 
 In any case, I would not think that Stella would have been interested in the
 project; she is in full time employment on the education front. The sum
 offered to the project manager is £500 per month. My dog costs more than
 that, in terms of Dog health insurance and his food. I take it, that this is
 a labour of love for Mrs. Carvalho. Important to her, as she puts it.
 
 It was quite a chore to get people to open up their doors some 30 odd years
 ago; I know, I did the rounds in the London Borough of Merton. My feeling is
 that it will be even more difficult  in today's climate. I think though,
 that someone with no attachment to East African Goans, will find it not that
 easy, to capture the flavour and nuances. If a yarn is thrown in, where will
 the reference come from?
 
 -- 
 DEV BOREM KORUM
 
 Gabe Menezes.
  

Re: [Goanet] British Goan Heritage Project

[Cyprian Fernandes]

thanks. i had seen that. c
  Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:29:11 +0400
 From: eugene.corr...@gmail.com
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] British Goan Heritage Project
 
 Cyprian,
 Check the item below.
 eugene
 --
 
 De: 
 goa-research-...@yahoogroups.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-research-net/post?postID=YIRrmswMJdSk-HjWPNs2M0x8BJRNLtrQKjr36dOLKm1lQNppYX-j6AJUrEpqKZp3NZQEzRmQMuI7PoSOrofbVJG9Z1oAmu2kem
 nome de Carvalho
 Enviada: ter 31-05-2011 17:04
 Para: 
 goa-research-...@yahoogroups.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-research-net/post?postID=fYdNeh750dImDqjn4LeRreStzbqYHNNjySEw80bs_vbJCWXSq1qFhtxFCxAG4MhraLbqviB5AcuCBa-2z63LNFz1N4DH2-TFaXQ
 Assunto: [Goa Research Net] The Goan Association (UK) awarded historic grant
 
 The Goan Association (UK) awarded historic grant
 The Goan Association (UK) has been awarded a historic grant of £38,300/-by
 The Heritage Lottery Fund. This is the first grant of its kind, supporting a
 study of the British-Goan community which arrived predominantly from East
 Africa by mid-twentieth century. Sue Bowers, Head of Heritage Lottery Fund
 London, affirmed, Both British colonial history and Goan heritage in the UK
 will be enhanced by this project that will also help current and future
 generations learn more of their cultural background.
 The two-year project will gather information primarily through video and
 audio interviews, conducted by a team of volunteers, to study the
 displacement, transition and resettlement of the community emerging from
 post-Colonial East Africa. The findings will be disseminated through
 seminars, a publication and an exhibition. They will be archived in leading
 British institutions as well as a website designed for the purpose. Mr
 Flavio Gracias, President of The Goan Association (UK), said, This grant
 assures us that the Goan community is part of the national narrative and the
 preservation of its historical and cultural past is an integral part of
 Britain's heritage. The study is an opportunity to re-examine and put right
 misconceived stereotypes, engage in conversations with a larger audience and
 build a repository of learning for future generations of Goans. The project
 will be led by Selma Carvalho, author of 'Into the DiasporaWilderness',
 Clifford Pereira, Historical-Geographer, academic researcher and Fellow of
 the Royal Geographical Society, and Eddie Fernandes, editor of GoanVoice UK.
  

Re: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Gabe, Adding to my previous post: I am not suggesting that an outsider will 
notdo a good job. I am suggesting an East African should do a better job ifhe 
or she has the skill and talent. I write about Goa but I would be the first to 
admit that Goan writers in Goa will always do a better job. There was the case 
of a writer who relied on interviews with the wife of an outstanding 
politician. This was a poor substitute for actually beingthere, living the 
political intrigues, conspiracies, the threats and the betrayals as well as the 
atmospherics of the Goan community. More importantly, there is a need to 
understand that politician husbands telltheir wives very little. On the other 
hand, if the writer had lived in Kenyahe or she would have understood the 
fuller perspective through the eyesof the man's political alumni, both pro and 
against. An East African writerwould have known much of this for himself and 
would not have had torely on poor quality research. There is a clear advantage 
in living the history one writes about. Cyprian   Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 
10:43:12 +0100
 From: gabe.mene...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] British Goans heritage project
 
 On 6 September 2011 09:48, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Can anyone on this forum inform me if the GOA UK approached Dr. Stella
  Mascarenhas-Keyes to head the heritage project. I think Stella has more
  credentials that Selma Carvalho, who has been mentioned as the lead
  researcher of the team, as Stella is a recognized expert on migration
  studies. True that Selma has penned a book on Goan diaspora but that really
  does not establish her as a researcher with the professionalism that Stella
  would bring to the job. If Stella leads the team it would give the British
  Goans  heritage project an authoritarian stamp.
 
 
  Eugene Correia
 
 
 RESPONSE: According to what was put out; Mrs Carvalho did the ground work
 for obtaining the Heritage Grant. So naturally, it was a given that she
 would do the job. Then just to make things look kosher, an advertisement was
 put out, so that the person applying would fit the frock!
 
 In any case, I would not think that Stella would have been interested in the
 project; she is in full time employment on the education front. The sum
 offered to the project manager is £500 per month. My dog costs more than
 that, in terms of Dog health insurance and his food. I take it, that this is
 a labour of love for Mrs. Carvalho. Important to her, as she puts it.
 
 It was quite a chore to get people to open up their doors some 30 odd years
 ago; I know, I did the rounds in the London Borough of Merton. My feeling is
 that it will be even more difficult  in today's climate. I think though,
 that someone with no attachment to East African Goans, will find it not that
 easy, to capture the flavour and nuances. If a yarn is thrown in, where will
 the reference come from?
 
 -- 
 DEV BOREM KORUM
 
 Gabe Menezes.
  

Re: [Goanet] RESPONSE: The Office of the Commissioner for N.R.I. Affairs replies...

[Cyprian Fernandes]

So what did the Government of Goa get for its 17,000 pounds?So what did the 
Goan Association UK get for its 17,000 pounds+
  Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:35:43 +0530
 From: goanetrea...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] RESPONSE: The Office of the Commissioner for N.R.I. Affairs 
 replies...
 
 Office of the Commissioner for N.R.I. Affairs
 (Cabinet Minister Rank)
 GOVERNMENT OF GOA
 September 6, 2011
 
 Sir,
 
 We have seen recently in your esteemed website a statement by Mr.
 Aires Rodrigues under the caption London Convention cost Goa tax
 payer over 12 lakhs.   He claims that authorities have been unable to
 explain the cost of airfare of Hon. Commissioner for NRI Affairs. Mr.
 Rodrigues did not seek any clarification from any authority or from
 anyone else.  Had he done so, he would have been told that the Hon.
 Commissioner travelled business class to the London Convention as per
 his entitlement which is the entitlement of all ministers, holders of
 ministerial rank and officials of the Government of Goa as well as of
 all States and Union Territories with grade pay of Rs.10,000/- and
 above per month.
 
 The hotel accommodation was arranged by the High Commission of India
 in London as per established procedure.
 
 The 14 member Cultural Group from Goa was sponsored by the Indian
 Council of Cultural Relations (ICCR).  It was for the first time that
 ICCR sponsored a cultural group for a Goan gathering.  The expenses
 incurred by the Goa Government on the last as well as previous Global
 Goans Conventions were, inspite of cost escalation and foreign
 exchange differential, far  less than the expenditure on the Global
 Goans Convention held in Goa in 2007.
 
 The expenditure incurred  by the Government  of Goa on the Convention
 held in 2007 was about Rs. 40 lakhs (Rs.39,31,470).  One of the
 reasons for holding the annual Global Goans Convention abroad
 thereafter was to reduce expenditure of the Government since part of
 the cost abroad  is borne by the local organizing committee.  The
 other reason was to obtain larger participation by holding the
 Convention in countries where expatriate Goans reside in significant
 numbers.
 
 As informed by the organizers, the total  expenditure incurred with
 the Global Goans Convention held in London last July was about thirty
 five thousand pounds (GBP 34,941.11) whilst the total expenditure
 incurred by Government of  Goa amounts to about seventeen thousand
 pounds.
 
 Mr.  Rodrigues attended the Convention of 2007.  At one stage, he
 insisted on raising an issue totally unconnected with the Convention
 and its agenda. He was  repeatedly told that foreign diplomats
 representing countries with large Goan populations, the Chief Passport
 Officer as well as senior officials of the Ministry of External
 Affairs had been specifically invited to address the grievances of our
 NRIs at the Convention and that they would be unable to do so if
 interventions  on unscheduled matters  were permitted.
 
 Since Rodrigues did not pay heed to repeated requests, he was told to
 withdraw from the venue.  Some months earlier, Rodrigues had sought
 accommodation at the flat of Mr. Eduardo Faleiro in New Delhi and had
 availed of Mr. Faleiro’s  hospitality.
 
 Sd/-
 (Datta Pednekar)
 Office Secretary
  

Re: [Goanet] LONDON CONVENTION COST GOAN TAX PAYER OVER 12 LAKHS

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Excellent work, Aires. I wonder if the same information can be gleaned 
from the Goan Association UK to make the whole process completely 
transparent!


Cyprian Fernandes

Re: [Goanet] LONDON CONVENTION COST GOAN TAX PAYER OVER 12 LAKHS

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Aires,

This is a piece I wrote a few weeks ago:

I was very impressed that the GA had taken on challenge of hosting the 
GGC as part of your own celebrations. However, in the quiet light of 
day, the convention raises many questions.



I am not into criticising or detracting from the conference. My efforts 
are aimed at setting out the facts. Is the convention worthwhile or not? 
If it is, why, what does it deliver? If the convention is to have a 
future, what is the best way forward? A professional redesign of the 
convention? I also have a problem with the use of the word “convention”. 
Perhaps it is a word favoured by spin doctors to make a meeting look 
grander than it actually is. According to the venerable Oxford English 
dictionary it is:


a large meeting or conference, especially of members of a political 
party or a particular profession or group:the party held its biennial 
convention
North American an assembly of the delegates of a political party to 
select candidates for office.

a body set up by agreement to deal with a particular issue.
historical a meeting of Parliament without a summons from the sovereign.
I find it hard to defend the relevance of the whole thing. I do not know 
of one iota of the cause of Goans in UK or the wider Goan diaspora or 
the Goans in Goa was enhanced in any shape or form by the GGC. I also 
found those speakers quite irrelevant.I would even suggest that this 
meeting had more to do with drumming up business for the celebration of 
the golden jubiliee of Goa’s liberation/annexation than anything to do 
with the community of Goans or the dialogue therein. The argument is 
forwarded that the Goan Festival was the most successful ever. My answer 
is that you don't need a global convention to organise the festival. 
Goans from around the world have attended the festival on previous 
occasions.




1. What was the purpose of the Goan Convention? What was the 
architecture of the conference: Aims, objectives, deliverables, key 
messages, tangible achievements in Goa, easier access and solution to 
personal/individual, property issues, opportunity for genuine dialogue 
rather than an opportunity to kowtow to people.


 2. Was this achieved in London, if yes, how was it achieved?

3. How did this convention benefit the Goans of UK or Goa?

4. With so many speakers focussing on the past, was this not a just a 
drumming exercise to celebrate the anniversary of annexation/liberation?


5. Would it be fair to say most of the speakers were irrelevant in terms 
of Goa's needs today and in the future (with the exception of Carmen 
Miranda)? Was this not the ideal opportunity to engage people in 
attempting to debate some of Goa's critical problems? Not just paying 
lip service, but serious transparent
commitment to beginning the path to repairing the damages of 
institutionalised corruption?


6. How much money, if any, did it cost the Goan Association? How much 
was contributed by the Goa Government? What is the total cost of the 
convention? How much interference was there from Goa? Why and what was 
it about?


7. What is your answer to your accusers who say these conventions are a 
waste of time, do not achieve anything and are just junket which 
benefits Sir Lunchalot or Lord Travelalot?



On the other hand, I have been hearing good things about the Know Goa 
programme. It seems to be a reasonable programme which is delivering 
what it has set out to do: allowing young Goans from around the world to 
get to know their ancestral motherland.



What I tried to do was establish the bona fides of the GGC. Is it a good 
thing? Does it deliver what it sets out to do? Does it enhance the lot 
of the Goan? Is there another project that would deliver better value 
for the Goan rupee?


If the answer is in the negative for most of these questions, then the 
GGC should be dumped and whole process rethought and given a fresh start 
with transparency in all facets.


Cyprian Fernandes

Re: [Goanet] Happy 17th Anniversary Goanet

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Congratulations to all concerned who do a sterling job often in 
controversialand hurrican conditions. Thanks for surviving all. Cyprian
  Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:16:18 +0100
 From: her...@goanet.org
 To: goa...@goanet.org; goanet-n...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Happy 17th Anniversary Goanet
 
 Dear Goanetters,
 
   
 
 Today Goanet celebrates its 17th anniversary! I'd like to take this 
 opportunity to say a few thank you's on this proud occasion.
 
   
 
 First and foremost we owe thanks to those who work so hard to provide this 
 service. We have two volunteers who are the pillars of Goanet: Frederick 
 Noronha who has volunteered for 16 years; and Bosco D'Mello who has 
 volunteered over 10 years now.  That's an astounding commitment and 
 contribution to Goanet and the Goan community. I thank them both on behalf of 
 all of us.
 
   
 
 A word of thanks to Christina Pinto who regularly publishes the Goanet 
 Cybermatrimonials, and Avelino D'Souza along with a few others who help us 
 whenever they can.  Their time and effort is certainly appreciated by all of 
 us.
 
   
 
 Thanks go to every member of Goanet as well.  Your subscriptions are 
 testament to our success.  Obviously we cannot all contribute to the dialogue 
 on Goanet.  However, many thanks go to the contributors for sharing 
 information and views on topics pertinent to Goans worldwide.
 
   
 
 I am sure you will all agree with me that Goanet is an important 
 communication network for Goans worldwide and provides an important service 
 to our community.  I hope that will continue into the future.
 
   
 
 We need your help to make that happen.  Invite you friends and family to 
 subscribe to Goanet and publicize Goanet. Volunteer with us.  All we need is 
 few minutes a day. No technical skills required.   Your financial support 
 also goes a long way to support our operations.  Donations can be made at 
 www.goanet.org.
 
   
 
 Thank you all for your continued support.
 
   
 
 On behalf of all of us on Goanet, Happy Anniversary!
 
   
 
   
 
 Yours sincerely,
 
   
 
 Herman
 
   
 
   
 
 --
 
 Herman Carneiro
 
 Chair
 
 Goanet Admin
 
 www.goanet.org
 
 Where Goans Connect!
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Goanetter facing Hurricane Irene

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Roland,

A glimmer of hope. A Kenyan priest is assisting in the campaign to
get redress for Goan who was sexually abused as a child. See the
blog www.cyprian.fernandes.blogspot.com.

Cyprian

 From: roland.fran...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:08:49 -0400
 Subject: [Goanet] Goanetter facing Hurricane Irene

 BBC link:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14641567

 Hope JC is secure in a sound structure if he has decided to brave the
 hurricane by remaining in the Bahamas.
 Feni is always a good companion in such a situation or perhaps refuge
 in the Atlantis Hotel and Casino where all the celebrities on the
 island will no doubt be sheltering.

Re: [Goanet] Global Goenkar Special Edition World Goa Day 2011

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Rene, NSW will be celebrating on September 4 which unfortunately isFather's 
Day. We will get a crowd. 
http://www.our-goa-nsw.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/World-Goa-Day-2011-Poster.jpg
  From: goan...@yahoo.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:19:07 +0100
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Global Goenkar Special Edition World Goa Day 2011
 
 Global Goemkar !!
 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: Kenelm I.F. Santana Lopes kenelmlo...@gmail.com
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011, 3:26
 Subject: Global Goenkar - Special Edition World Goa Day 2011
 
 Presenting the Global Goenkar Special Edition World Goa Day 2011
 Please share with all your fellow Goans
  
 Wishing everyone on World Goa Day !
  
 **
 Online Interactive version:
 
  http://issuu.com/globalgoenkar/docs/world_goa_day_special_edition_200811
 
 
 rene barreto
 WORLD GOA DAY 
 WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS
 
 
 
 WORLD KONKANI ORGANISATION
 
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Life in the rearview mirror

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Roland, Tony, On behalf of my classmate thanks for the dignity and grace of 
your points of view. cyprian
  From: roland.fran...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:19:35 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Life in the rearview mirror
 
 Dear Tony, thank you for telling us your story related in the opposite way to 
 Cypriano's blog commentary on the abuse of the Goan boy, now a man. I 
 understood the need to bring a sense of balance to the perceived vile history 
 of abuse in the Church we could all have done without.
 
 There are very few among those of us with a Catholic boyhood background and 
 even among those who were not Christians, who do not appreciate the good work 
 in education, discipline and family and community values imparted to us by 
 the priests in our lives. There is absolutely no doubt about that 
 contribution and the good it did us in our adult lives.
 
 However, Tony that is not in question when such narrations arise. What is in 
 question is the gross abuse of the relative minority of those priests who 
 shattered the tender lives and the bright futures of the young ones under 
 their care. It is a question of abuse of the trust and authority placed on 
 them by their devout flock and by the vesting of their office. Even that, 
 grievous though it is, would have been seen as a minor problem. The real 
 tragedy here is the cover-up by higher Church authority leading to the papal 
 office, which led to the compounding of that abuse. By people who should have 
 known better.
 
 I once had a long conversation with a Goan lady who is a brilliant 
 sociologist with a stellar career in the prison system here. I asked her 
 whether Goa would have been immune to this catholic priest child abuse 
 situation in the rest of the world. In my Goaness, I secretly wished she 
 would answer yes. She did not give me a direct answer because she wanted to 
 lead me through a logical process of the social environment and circumstances 
 prevailing then, which would resonate with me and she then hit me with 
 incident after incident which I would not have imagined. She had answered my 
 question with an irrefutable reply.
 
 All that Cypriano's Goan victim from Africa needs from us is to tell him that 
 we are in moral support, one in his memories and suffering. As many of us who 
 would like to participate in his healing journey should do so without 
 hesitation through a few words of comfort. And that it seems, is all he wants.
 
 Roland.
 Toronto.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 To: Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994; Gabe Menezes
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Life in the rearview mirror
 
 Gabe Menezes This is a blog by my school mate, who preceded me by some
 years. Most of us
 in school had an inkling what was happening, alas as is portrayed, the
 circumstances and the faith and respect to be given, in which we were
 brought up, caused what happened. I guess this is true also of what happened
 in Ireland and other places. Thank God that we are now more aware and
 perceptive!
 
 Comment:
 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR
 
 The story told by Cypriano about his friend is horrifying. Yet there is also
 the other side of the mirror.
 
 
  

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Hey Fred, Around 1200 families in NSW. No exact figures available. Cyprian
  From: fredericknoron...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:15:45 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?
 
 Hello Goanetters,
 
 Could you share any estimates of the number of expat Goans who live in your
 city or country? Would appreciate if you could send the figures (even
 estimates would do) via Goanet or personal email, with permission to cite.
 Thanks! FN
 
 PS: What do you see as the major issues facing Goans there currently?
 --
 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
 Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
  

Re: [Goanet] Re : What is Independence Day ?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

That has been the eternal proof, few have answered the challenge!I think our 
children, families came first Cyprian
  From: drferdina...@hotmail.com
 To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org
 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:46:03 +0530
 Subject: [Goanet] Re : What is Independence Day ?
 
 
 The Goans who say they are Indians first
 and Goans later, and are coolly sitting in a third nation serving the adopted
 nation and eating their crumbs are HIPOCRITES of the first order. It is not 
 enough
 to just say “I am Indian first” just because you have been told by your 
 parents
 or grandparents. Come down to Goa and serve the nation, and join the equally
 hypocrite BBSM who say “I have no right over my grandchildren, but every right
 over your children!”  
 
 
 
 
 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
 
 Bernado Colaco
 
   Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:56:01 -0700
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Goans are faced with North Korea regime for the past 50 years. How can they 
 secede if they are brain washed on a daily basis. Allow the truth to be told 
 and then see the claims for secession.
 
 BC
 
 
 It would be interesting to know exactly how many Goan Indian citizens 
 who reside in Goa consider themselves non-Indian, and want to secede 
 from India. My guess is there are not enough to hold a solitary chicken 
 coop or outhouse in battle. 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Fred, Australia is a happy place. From the moment you arrive here with a young 
family, life and society
ensures the togetherness of the family. Perhaps more than anywhere else, 
parents tend to spenda lot more time with their children: sport at weekends is 
the big thing, tennis, cricket, rugby union,rugby league, swimming, surfing, 
the list is endless. Both parents need to drive as well as car pool. We seem a 
pretty contented bunch who always happy to meet, chat, and eat. Who is cooking 
what?And how? What is the secret ingredient. Variations on the themes, food is 
all the talk at most gatherings. We are comfortable with our religion and our 
politics, there is no need to go on a fastunto death in Australia. Most kids 
have grown up and are now fathering their own children. They hold pretty good 
jobs andare recognised for their skill, intellect, drive, creativity, 
leadership and honest hard work. They are the equal of the best Australia and 
the world has to offer and are at home in any corner of the world. I guest it 
has something to do with the weather, the sun does shine for us. I guess the 
only problem, if it is a problem, is the greying process. Most GOA NSW members 
are nowapproaching retirement. The younger generation, unlike those brilliant 
young adults in Canada, are nottaking up the cudgels of club membership. Like 
the local church, club functions have the appearance ofa seniors' social. There 
are certainly fears for the future of the club. On the other hand, most young 
folk marry outside their communities and everyone is very happy aboutthat. 
There is a quiet assimilation taking place. Thank God I am alive in Australia. 
Love it.
  From: skip...@live.com.au
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:03:44 +1030
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?
 
 
 Hey Fred, Around 1200 families in NSW. No exact figures available. Cyprian
   From: fredericknoron...@gmail.com
  Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:15:45 +0530
  To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
  Subject: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?
  
  Hello Goanetters,
  
  Could you share any estimates of the number of expat Goans who live in your
  city or country? Would appreciate if you could send the figures (even
  estimates would do) via Goanet or personal email, with permission to cite.
  Thanks! FN
  
  PS: What do you see as the major issues facing Goans there currently?
  --
  FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
  Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Mr. and Mrs. Eduardo Faleiro, Mr. Keith Vaz etc

[Cyprian Fernandes]

A slip of the tongue, me thinks. I thought he was referring to Scogo or Goan 
Festivals pastsince he referred to Goa sausages. 
  From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:29:07 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mr. and Mrs. Eduardo Faleiro, Mr. Keith Vaz etc
 
 Weren't there a series of such conventions even before the NRI Commission
 was set up in Goa? FN
 
 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
 
 
 On 4 August 2011 13:07, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  COMMENT: That was Politician speak; his daughter is not young enough, if
  one
  takes the first Convention to have taken place in Goa not that many years
  ago!
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Aarti Sequeira

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Pommie, Indian-Goan, Kenyan, Aussie, American, a kaleidoscope of sound, just 
like a spice rich, rich curry!  Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:41:01 +0100
 From: gabe.mene...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Aarti Sequeira
 
 Doing cookery programmes on Food channel - I guess she is a Goan - but what
 an American accent! Does our Cypriano Fernandes speak with an Aussie accent?
 
 No offence but I hate the Aussie accent.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarti_Sequeira
 
 -- 
 DEV BOREM KORUM
 
 Gabe Menezes.
  

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Thank you Fred, I must say that I am in complete awe of your writing. I hope to 
be in Goa for a short while,around 10 days, and would deem it an honour if we 
were to meet. I prefer to say things to people when they are alive rather than 
when they are dead and can't hear me.  So, my admiration for your writing your 
encylopedic knowledge of your subjects is just that,pure, unadulterated 
admiration. May your pen never run out of ink. God bless, Cyprian
  From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:04 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon
 
 On 17 July 2011 18:51, Cyprian Fernandes skip...@live.com.au wrote:
 
  Who is going to sort out Swindon situation?
 
 
 Dear Cyprian, I'm not sure we should worry about this. They are adults, they
 have their share of commonsense, and know what is good for them.
 
 If we look at the histories of Goan communities worldwide (and in Goa too),
 we can quickly spot a couple of realities (i) we are quite an integrated
 lot, and have been great at building community ventures, launching
 initiatives and creating social capital (ii) we are equally fantastic --
 though this may seem contradictory -- in creating bitterness,
 misunderstanding, infighting among ourselves.
 
 It is for each of us to decide which Goan gene of ours we should build on.
 When I'm almost six feet deep (okay, now they bury just three feet deep in
 these parts!) I don't want to regret about the road not taken.
 
 Here's wishing our Swindon Goenkars well. We all make mistakes, we all have
 our own egos. But we also have a lot of potential which, once frittered
 away, can never be rebuilt. FN
 
 PS: Cyprian, sorry for not replying to your personal mail of over a month
 back. I don't have an answer, but am working on one, and might have it,
 inshallah.
 
 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
  

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

[Cyprian Fernandes]

I don't want to fuel the fire but I have a few questions: Who is going to sort 
out Swindon situation?There is no umbrella organisation that could have helped 
with the welfare of Goan migrants veryearly in their arrival. Such assistance 
may have succeeded in removing the behavioural factors thatmay have contributed 
to the situation. It does not say much for a community that a Swindon 
councillor may have to act as an intermediarywhen there is an abundances of 
brilliantly qualified Goans in the UK who could do the job. Butwill the Swindon 
mob listen to another Goan, even though he might have his ancestral 
beginningsin Africa? There is a separation by prejudice between the two camps. 
I have seen some defamatory statements being broadsided pretty freely. It would 
further fuelincident if these were to emanate. But the Swindon Goans must take 
responsibility for their actions, learn from their mistakes and and ensure it 
does not happen again. I know I sound a bit preachy ... still begs the 
question: who will fix the mess? Cyprian Fernandes   
  From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:18:11 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon
 
 Eugene, instead of pouring fuel into raging fires, I'm suggesting that we
 need to get results. Let those who want to squabble, do so till kingdom
 comes. The test is, who can offer the results?
 
 (A little debate is fine, but not ceaseless verbal slugfests, aiming at
 proving others wrong and showing how superior we are to everyone else.) --FN
 
 On 17 July 2011 17:41, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Let's follow Fred's advice
  and behave like the three monkeys with each one having its hands of
  the eyes, ears and mouth. Squabbling does not help. It is better to
  look another way when two bodies are fighting. Let's pretend
  everything is fine and dandy.
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Conflict of interest?- New Jersey GOA elections

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Well said Fred. Sometimes it is better left unsaid. I say this with due 
respects. Cyprian Fernandes
  From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:27:48 +0530
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Conflict of interest?- New Jersey GOA elections
 
 Instead of debating principles till the cows come home, it is about
 time for Goans to stand up, be counted, and actually deliver results.
 
 Sometimes I suspect we have an extra gene meant to trip up one
 another. What you guys say is fine, theoretically. But too much
 discussion could give us the paralysis of analysis. As Mao once said,
 whether a black cat does it, or a white cat, all that matters is
 whether it catches rats or not. As of now, I can only see cats
 squabbling. FN
 
 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
 #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
 http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
  

[Goanet] Not Guilty

[Cyprian Fernandes]

A few folks have asked me if I am the Cyprian Fernandes who will take part 
in the Global Goan Convention, delivering one of the votes of thanks. The 
answer is: Not moi, not guilty, but intrigued.

Re: [Goanet] George Menezes and The Goa Book Club.

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Dear Roland, Don't know the subject, but enjoyed your comments. Cyprian
  From: roland.fran...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:56:56 -0400
 Subject: [Goanet] George Menezes and The Goa Book Club.
 
 Dear Joel,
 
 Saw the You Tube snippet. You invited comments and therefore my post.
 
 Pity George Menezes spoke about comparatively inane things like how he
 joined the IAF and his college days and girl friend in Dharwar.
 
 George was a leading Goan luminary on the Bombay scene back in the day. As
 everybody knows he was a Director of Personnel in an MNC as well as a humor
 columnist in the print media. He was also invited to join the BJP by AB
 Vaypayee himself but left soon thereafter. Not forgetting that he is the son
 of the late Prof Armand Menezes head of the English Dept at Dharwar
 University, and a well known Goan author and personality in his own right.
 
 With experience and a pedigree like that, it is a pity that all the Goa Book
 Club could get him to talk about was how his girl friend rejected him and
 how he joined the IAF. He has repeatedly written and spoken about his IAF
 days as a Pilot Officer, which by the way is the lowest ranking commissioned
 officer rank in the IAF even though he was a junior air-attache at the
 Indian Embassy in Paris.
 
 A lost opportunity to get George to talk about more cerebral matters like
 suggestions for Goan youth in the corporate world or to make entry in
 politics in order to clean the dirt abounding there. He must have had access
 to leading Goan personalities like Julio Ribeiro and many others on the
 national scene and he would have had a choice of so many little known facts
 and stories to tell without violating the Official Secrets Act, ha ha!
 
 Next time somebody should get some ants to crawl in the pants of the sedate,
 morose and humorless audience that I saw on You Tube at the Book Club and
 give them the energy to wake up their speakers with loaded questions and
 push them out of their apparent monotony and lethargy.
 
 Roland.
 Toronto.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org
 [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of joe...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:42 PM
 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
 Subject: [Goanet] HAPPENINGS AT GOA BOOK CLUB
 
 GEORGE MENEZES SENDS EVERYONE IN SPLITS AT GOA BOOK CLUB:
 
 Sugar and Spice author George Menezes drew up a bumper crowd of writers
 and book lovers at the June 2011 meeting of the Goa Book Club at Broadway
 Book Centre in Panjim, Goa, on June 29, 2011. He sent everyone in splits as
 he narrated how he got into writing and stuck to it till today. Menezes also
 read one of his articles (on his father) published in English monthly
 magazine Goa Today, besides poems and anecdotes from his life.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/52243088@N00/5884917063/in/photostream
 
 
 
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Historian Cynthia Salvadori

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Mervyn, Cynthia was indeed a very special human being and a sad loss toher 
family and friends but also to the things she loved most in theworld: the NFD, 
Kenya and Africa in general. PS: Your late brother was a great friend of mine. 
Cyprian Fernandes
  Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:04:26 +0100
 From: mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Historian Cynthia Salvadori
 
 Have just received the sad news a few moments ago that my good friend
 and well known Kenya author and historian, Cynthia Salvadori, committed
 suicide last night.
 She was in regular touch with me, exchanging lengthy e-mails about our
 mutual concern for
 the peoples of Kenya's Northern Frontier.
 Her last e-mail to me was last week.
 Many will remember her two tomes -   THROUGH OPEN DOORS  the 3 masterly
 volumes, WE CAME IN DHOWS
 
 The end of an era.
 Cynthia lived on Lamu island in Kenya.
 
 
 
 Mervyn Maciel