Re: [Goanet] India the hype
Well done Bernado Colaco ! at last you identified yourself. Cheers man ! From: Bernado Colaco Sr. Preidente since you responded I decided to recount a story of a elite indian educator who was servicing in Macau. It was this bright evening on an island where various communities were invited for a dinner party. Among the invitees was a another indian, a chap (north indian) from the aviation industry? who decided not to sit on the same table as the educator (south indian).
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1263 (3-IDIOTS on CHRISTMAS DAY - 25-12-2009 (Marcos))catholic men as drunkards and catholic women selling alcohol in various Hindi movies.?? Who is responsibl
Dear Marco, 'catholic men as drunkards and catholic women selling alcohol in various Hindi movies.' You have brought up a very interesting debate . 'What who do you define as anti Christ'? Does being a critic of some ones or portraying some one in poor light make you anti the person concerned? That Every human being has the right to his own opinion was some thing Christ was very much aware off himself. Hence he never hesitated to point out the wrong in society during his times and yet when it cam to stoning the so called woman of low virtues . He requested the person who had never sinned in life to throw the first stone. And yet being the only sinless person in that crowd he refrained from throwing the first stone. So is criticism of Christ or Catholics that make us anti Christ or living lives contradictory to Christ teaching that make us Anti Christ. The next important issue is why do we Christians portray the image 'catholic men as drunkards and catholic women selling alcohol ???' I don't think Catholic women are portrayed as selling alcohol any more yes but catholic men as drunkards still exist . We have no one to blame but our selves . If Christian men in remote villages are more happy lazing around with a bottle while women work hard to get the family going ? What can you expect others to think of us ? Christianity today is not jut confined to Goa. I have seen it in the remote parts of the Himalayas and along Indian borders. No wonder when I asked my husbands P.A What was the population in the North East like ? He promptly replied 'Majority of Christians whose men are drunkard while women work hard even at petrol pumps.' Though he swore with tears in his eyes when he was posted to Goa at the end of his tenure that ' His very much catholic Commander is a 1000 times much better a person than his former Non Catholic Commander.'He has much more regards respect for his very Much catholic Commanders much more Catholic wife than for his former Hindus Commanders very much Hindu wife. He still is in touch with his very much Catholic commander . The man in concern is a devout Hindu Brahmin. Regards Cheryl === Confidentiality Notice : The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient , please notify the sender at SHCIL or postmas...@stockholding.com immediately destroy all copies of this message. ===
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1134, Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 11285. Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1121 (manuel tavares)
Dear Manuel , Sorry! I may have replied in haste but no offense intended. I respect 99% of your views. Have the same opnion as you But I differ a bit because my grand father too left Goa in the beginning of the last century for the north of India and that's where he made his life in place in UP like Bina , Jhansi etc etc and finally settled in Mumbai. So I would find it very hypocritical if I were to say ban immigration into Goa as a whole. Goans come under the category of Cultured immigrants , as you will notice every pocket in Mumbai that was first inhabited by Goan's have mushroomed into famous Suburbs, unfortunately we are now reduced to minority in these suburbs (e.g Santa Cruz , Bandra) What we should be cautious of is the low skilled category of migrants who come in the form of watchmen , hawkers , small shop owners ( Gado ) .They are the ones who create all the trouble in the form of crime sanitation issues. In fact the demolition of their shanties in the right step in the right direction or else one day you will find Soniaji descend from Goa and declare all the illegal shanties as legal. You will have another Dharavi in Goa. Your politicians are amongst the most corrupt, RTI should be used as a very powerful tool to demand accountability from them. You have to create the right industries to retain your fellow Goans . Why do we insist on tourism only ? We have the mines , then why can't we have the factories producing the iron. steel We should stop this plunder as you say . Can't we become an IT hub . What stops us ? the center has given you tax incentive but why do factories exist only in paper but not on ground? Last but most important I hate this Goan attitude of desire of all things foreign They even cling on to Portugal just for a passport to Europe and from there to America. My Mom still has her Portuguese passport, But this has been kept for antique value , I love collecting antiques. Honestly my husband has spent quiet some years abroad on UN postings . The feedback I got is that Indian's abroad go to any extent to save a fistful of dollars,They wont mind sharing accommodation with people they would consider lowly back in their own mother land. But when they come to Goa ( India) they go all out to show that they are one up on their fellow men back home. By Gods grace , I can assure you that if you have the talent and patience you can have more money and better life than your fellow Goans abroad. Its just that some people think that the grass on the other side is greener and when they realize it is not , they try to fool the fellow Goans back home. I would want to return back to Goa , I do have my ancestral property but I fear for cousins who may resurrect from the grave and claim their share. Hence I have purchased my own flat in Goa. Purchase of land is beyond me because of the legal problems ( compounded by the Portuguese law that daughters have a stake in parental property) and of course property sharks from outside Goa offer you a better deal so naturally my fellow goans would prefer selling off to them. I am shocked that very few Goans join the Civil services unlike people from UP, Punjab , Bihar the south . As a result you have Babus who have no knowledge and Love for Goa, run your state administration. That's why they are in nexus with your politicians. We should encourage our Youth to Go in for such services in order to retain them and improve our lot. We have a huge task ahead of us of changing the Goan mind set which favors migration out of Goa. Then only can we achieve as I said,. Firstly : Stop! your own fellow Goans from leaving Goa for other lands. Second : Retain them by creating opportunities / Making them realize the opportunities that lie in Goa itself. Other part of the country like the North East etc too are as beautiful as Goa and they too face the same problem as we .They have the Bangladeshi's Biharis who come and dirty the place .They readily work for a lower salary . I have two kids and do not want them to Migrate abroad , but would prefer that they join the civil allied services preferably from the Goa Cadre.Currently they are motivated too , but the future no one can tell. Just hope wishes are horse.. Regards Cheryl === Confidentiality Notice : The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient , please notify the sender at SHCIL or postmas...@stockholding.com immediately destroy all copies of this message. ===
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 11285. Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1121 (manuel tavares)
My Dear Mr. Manuel (Eddie) Tavares, Go ahead ! I cannot stop you from preaching hate as you have the freedom of speech as much as I have . But I can certainly differ from your claims of being the Sole voice of Goans as not all we Goans agree with your views. I certainly do not subscribe to your Hate speech , As a worldly wise person would have been through each and every posting of mine. You will realize that what I have been saying is Violence or hate speeches are no solution to your problems , get down to working .!!! Firstly : Stop! your own fellow Goans from leaving Goa for other lands. Second : Retain them by creating opportunities / Making them realize the opportunities that lie in Goa itself. That others find opportunities in Goa while your own fellow Goans are leaving show that your preachings have either fallen on deaf years or your own fellow Goans don't agree with your line of thinking ( migration is the law) or do not love Goa enough! Lastly : If you have achieved pts. 1 and 2 above . Your won't find Ghatis ( Migrants) in Goa.(There would be too many Goans and no place for Ghati's) I do not believe in your speeches as no religion preaches Violence.If your argument Christ did not say that you have to give away your skin and eventually your body and let your adversary walk all over you were to hold true Christ would not have chose to die on the Cross , but being the son of God Would have freed himself and thought his tormentors a lesson just as you preach 'you do not have to give away your skin and eventually your body and let your adversary walk all over you' ( Accepting Christ as the son of God is the corner stone of Christianity) If I used the example of Christ it was because of the Disgusting Grunting that has been going on under the guise of ' Goa was better under Portuguese rule' Some of you even cry about the change in demography , Hindus taking over Christian dominated areas , FORGETTING THE FACT THAT YOUR ANCESTORS WERE ALL HINDUS . So disgusting has been the attitude , that you had articles on Christian having Hindu names. An intelligent mind would have at once grasped the message in my post all the while.Love Sacrifice is the essence of all religions ' If the BJP RSS find no takers for their Hinduttva cry it is because they have misled the people on the issue of Ram Rajya which they claim they want to establish . Sri. Rams Rajya / Life is based on the following. 1) Sacrifice of ones self for the sake of ones family.( When Sri. Ram went into the forest , in exile ) 2) Sacrifices of one self for the sake of ones people (Praja / country)( when he took Samadhi) Neither me , nor you , nor any of our politicians nor Religious mouth pieces are capable of achieving this. If you cannot not have such a leader then you can have neither the Kingdom of Christ nor Ram Rajya ! So why preach if we cannot practice ! Its would serve Goans better if more work was done than just empty hate speeches were propagated or else we may end up as Empty vessels which make the most sound and finally lose our land to your Ghati's. Regards Cheryl === Confidentiality Notice : The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient , please notify the sender at SHCIL or postmas...@stockholding.com immediately destroy all copies of this message. ===
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1121
My Dear Mr. Mario Goveia, I have been observing for the last few days that there are many of our fellow Christians who are in the habit shouting their lungs horse of the great Christian virtues left to them as inheritance by the Portuguese . The so called self appointed guardians of Christian Virtues and Goan Culture are wolves in sheep's clothing who are hell-bent on destroying the great Goan Christian Values of Tolerance . Goan's have been noted to be a peace loving community as a whole and hence have been welcomed no matter where ever they may go. Let us not degenerate ourselves , Lower our values ( Virtues) to those of our lowly self appointed guardians of Goan Christian virtues. Let us be more Christ like and not respond to their senseless allegations, but turn the other cheek as Christ advised. . The hollow , senseless accusations / self proclaimed virtues of the self appointed guardians / representative show how empty minds are the devils work shop. Full of hate, jealousy and malice and always ready to spread it. They seem to have forgotten the ten commandments also ( Never take the name of your Lord your God in wain. ) DEV BOREM KORUM. If they cannot respect God , then you cannot expect them to respect his creation too.( You). Dear Moderator please ensure that this site is one that gets goans together and not one which drives them apart .
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1104
Migration in good if it confirms to the laws culture of the Land. While we take action against migrant we should not forget that we too have / may be migrants some where at some point in life.Though I am not against immigrants what alarms me is uncontrolled immigration accompanies by illegal occupation of land and erosion of values , peace culture . I see two forms of migration 1) One when you migrate and legally take up a house and pay your taxes / dues and contribute to the development of the place you immigrate to . ( This is characteristic of the educated / skilled labor force working in the organized sector and poses no harm.) It is an asset . Emulate them .! Accommodate them as they consider you their own. 2) The second is immigration by ( normally unskilled / laborers ) by the unorganized work force . This type of work force are characterized by daily wage earners / household helps etc.They give rise to encroachment / civic problems, problems with the law and order , sanitation , health problems and a host full of others . These are responsible for gradual erosion / disintegration of the place they migrate.They are the ones characterized by mass migration and activities not conducive and not in harmony to the local / original culture / population. Thus the eviction carried out by the Goa Government was a step in the right direction and should be supported by all not just Goans but every citizen of the country . Such migration has caused the erosion of cities like Mumbai. If not stopped , Goa would end up another Mumbai full of dirt , filth and crime Goa will very soon have it own Dharavi . Then some great politician will one day descend and give legal status to all hut and squatter colonies for the sake of their votes. . Such migrants earn in the land they migrate to , mess around with the place and send back their earning to develop the land they have migrated from . They have no respect or regard for the land they have migrated to. . === Confidentiality Notice : The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient , please notify the sender at SHCIL or postmas...@stockholding.com immediately destroy all copies of this message. ===
Re: [Goanet] Indian colonialism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible hi Bernado ! You are 100% right the brain needs rest ! that's why we humans spend more than 1/3 rd of our lives sleeping. I agree when you say 'it is now factual that the Iberica stance of resting periods helps a lot to recover the brains.' My daughter who is in the ninth standard in School has this habit of studying for a hour and dozing off for 10 minutes. I never stopped her as she always managed to maintain her rank without a tutor. But during the her terminal exams her syllabus had reached alarming portions and she got bored , started sleeping for two hours and studying for one. As a result nor did she get good sleep nor did the rest of the family at night, Hence I had to rebuke her and tell her to doze off ever two hours for a good fifteen minutes. Your observations are scientifically proven and I endorse them , however there may / are some among us who may not be able to interpret the observations / conclusions of scientific experiments and my prefer sleeping all the time . It is but necessary that educated intelligent people like you take home the message of hard work and fortitude to them and make them realize that we cannot blame others for our deficiencies ( remember the parable of Christ where he speaks of being prepared waiting prepared for the bridegroom) . I am sure you too have seen success through you intelligence and hard work. Regards Cheryl From: Bernado Colaco Hi Ms. Cheryl, ? I wonder? if teacher Melba had Rodrigues as the last name. It is now factual that the Iberica stance of resting periods helps a lot to recover the brains. So much for the lunatics from North America. Some of them subscribe to Goanet. ? BC ? I can still remember teacher Melba explaining the meaning to us and how? her words shaped my life.
[Goanet] To All Guardians of Goan Culture
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible To All Guardians of Goan Culture . You cannot preach culture without knowledge of your own history ., as History molds your culture . Before the Portuguese came to Goa , There were only Hindus and a few Muslims in Goa The Muslims came along with Adil Shah. The Pope divided the world and hence the Portuguese Considered it their right to go to the east in the name of preaching Christianity ,. What makes Goan Culture unique is the fact that two centuries plus of Portuguese rule has seen a part of their Culture rub off into our very India Goan life style. Hinduism as a religion has always been accommodative and hence you have a no of Gods Sects within Hinduism. It was for this accommodative nature of Hinduism that our Hindu ancestors readily accepted the Portuguese way of life, Unfortunately only to be exploited and made slaves. Goa is famous for its GSB Hindu community which were driven our of Goa by the Portuguese and they moved towards Mangalore and Pune. Some of the remaining converted. Goa was and is the Seat of Hindu Culture. Catholics form only 30 % of Goan Population , hence it is wrong for you to preach that Goan culture it totally represented by Portuguese Culture' You are forgetting the remaining majority 70 % . Goan Culture is the Great KonKani Cutlure . Which is distinct of Portuguese culture but is accommodative to it. Goan's moved out to places like Mumbai North India well under Portuguese rule is proof enough that Portuguese rule did not offer them a good life nor a solution to their problems. Today Goans have moved to the shores of other nations just like other fellow Indians speaks about the common line of thinking of both. If other cultures tolerate your Migration to their land then why do you scream when other cultures migrate to your land. ? When ever there is migration there is bound to be displacement of the Local Population. If you have displaced other be ready for others to displace you. When I spoke of Marwadi's settling down in the North East , I was hinting you of the things to come if you do not wake up and take control of your life and Land . .That you failed to understand the message in my mail shows your short sighted mind To be tolerant to others is a Christian Virtue inherited from my very Hindu ancestors. Hence I do not ask you to pick up your Guns and get after fellow migrants , but just ask of you to think of ways how you can get fellow Goans to remain sons of the soil and not move away from Goa. ( Migrate). Loud histrionics of our so called Guardians of Goan Culture are the resemblance of politicians in the making . Always trying to motivate the aam Janta into factionalism . . The Aaam Janta of Free Goa represents the amm Janta of Free India , we are no longer slaves to ignorance . We have the freedom to think and act keeping in mind that along with freedom comes an obligation to maintain peace and harmony among Goans of all faith .Your histrionics sound like cheap gimmicks to take you to power , as you certainly know that you are not capable of reaching the pinnacle of power without a divide and rule policy. My message to you is not to waste time shouting from roof tops and playing the blame game , but come together, drive away the corrupt and make your land the truly heaving on earth as spoken off in the great Indian Scriptures. Salves and sycophants do not understand the language of free men . What is your culture ? Thinking that your best friends wife is your own,? Just as most in Europe does Regards Cheryl
Re: [Goanet] Indian colonialism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Hi! My name is Cheryl , but explaining an email Id like Pcheryl would take us back to one of the hottest debates on Goa net. Please permit me to use your question to add to this debate !!! Regards Cheryl What's in a name ( formerly CHRISTIANs WITH HINDU NAMES ARE COWARDS) 15 years ago one Cheryl Desouza joined an organization called Stock Holding Corporation of Inida which had an 70% South India Hindu population and 28.5% other Hindu population . 1.5 % catholic population . Of this 1.5 % Catholics Goans consistited 25 % and I was the loan Goan woman in the operations side the rest were secretaries . It was but fair enough that I would often receive mail addressed C/O South Holding Corporation of Inida . Hence keeping in line with the great South India Tradition of having the husbands initial / family name before ones name , my email Id got created as pche...@stockholding .com But over the year I have noticed that as per my office records Cheryl Dsouza got changed to Cheryl Pereira and then unceremoniously to pcheryl which is totally harsh to the ear and sounds more like an illiterate . But I have not changed from being the Cheryl Desouza and still radiated the same aura ( if any ) invoke the same emotions / disgust among people I interact with . So as one of our friends has rightly said What's in a name???. My ancestors were Hindus , I am a Catholic ?? Why should I be ashamed of a Hindu name ??? By being ashamed of a Hindu name I am indirectly ashamed of ancestors ? Were they that lowly members of society that I should whant to deny their existence??? That amounts to self denial and insult to my self . I can change my name but not my Blood ! And certainly not history! Regarding your illiterate non Goan Sarpanch , I can very much guess she is a Marwadi. Last may I went to the north east for a holiday and I was stunned to see that most business ( Shops ) in Assam and Shillong were owned by Marwawadi's. The North East is a matriarch society where one goes by this mothers family name unlike the rest of India. And from the current state of affairs in the North East you may as well guess how very sentimental people are about their land and Culture . The Marwadi's out there have fond a novel way to get acceptance in a matriarch society. They have married local girls and have added their surnames to theirs . NE being a matriarch society they have managed to find acceptance among the locals and have made much more successful business men because of their Marwadi Genes. Now regarding you illiterate non Goan Sarpanch, ask yourselves who voted her to power ? has she done you any better than a Goan Sarpanch .? If yes , appreciate and Integrate , she cares for you much more than your own Goan Surpanch . If no just Boot ! You have the democratic power to do so! The choice is yours . Just crying fowl don?t help . Now if 1/3 rd of us can be bought for a peg of Fenny ! only vote and the remaining want to hold on to our Susegad philosophy ,we might as well as lay back ! try and enjoy it . After all each one of us has contributed to such a system and majority wins is the rule of any game! Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com 10/08/2009 08:31 PM To GOANET Lists goanet@lists.goanet.org, Goa Net Organization goa...@goanet.org, cheryl.pere...@stockholding.com cc Subject RE: [Goanet] Indian colonialism Dear Pcheryl, Is the 'P', in your sweet name silent as in Psmith? Just pleasantly curious Alfred...nothing silent therein... From:pcheryl cheryl.pere...@stockholding.com To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:17:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Indian colonialism * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Hi Bernado ! Its pleasant to find literary inclined Goans on the net. We can all help each other through our learning and sharing . Literature is the product of a very intelligent / powerful mind and always carries a hidden message which is hard to wisely decipher. In fact the poetry you quoted was one of my favorite I studies during high school . I can still remember teacher Melba explaining the meaning to us and how her words shaped my life. Two other very
Re: [Goanet] Indian colonialism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Hi Bernado ! Its pleasant to find literary inclined Goans on the net. We can all help each other through our learning and sharing . Literature is the product of a very intelligent / powerful mind and always carries a hidden message which is hard to wisely decipher. In fact the poetry you quoted was one of my favorite I studies during high school . I can still remember teacher Melba explaining the meaning to us and how her words shaped my life. Two other very inspirational poems I faintly recall are 'IF' and another by D.H Lawrence which went on to explain ' Do not make monkeys of men , by having men manning machines' . How much very true are all these poems when they talk about life . You begin to realize life has not changed over the centuries. Humans time and again has always had this feeing of helpless ness and no time for theselves. , unable to break free from situations they consider as detrimental and that's why we express ourselves through poetry and literature . The poem 'If ' goes on to explain human nature of always saying 'IF I had not done this and if I only I had done that , then I could have got that' . Always finding excuse for not having achieved what his neighbor has . As a poetically inclined and talented person , please keep up your talent There may one day be a dawn of realization that every thing in life has a time. Time for play time for work , time for joy and time for sorrow. Time to love and time to hate .Time to praise God and time to say Why God? . What eventually would set one apart from rest of his fellow beings and makes him feel contented is the feeling ' Yes , I have had my time, I have had it all but if I have survived it all and have been victorious. My courage fortitude made me never give up when things went wrong ,dead wrong !? I have done it !' If we have rights we have duties too . Rest is my right as much as it is my right to feed my self . Don't expect others to feed me , it is my duty to feed myself. If I cannot feed myself, the world views me as a parasite and I find myself left far behind while the world has gone ahead of me..'Time and tide waits for no man' ' Don't Curse the word then?' bye Cheryl
Re: [Goanet] Indian Colonoliasm
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Dear Mario , Your words 'many native Goans either cannot or choose not to compete with the non-Goans who have discovered the beauties and benefits of this tropical paradise, and are getting overshadowed in economic matters on their own home ground.Instead, the Portuguese were trying to be greedy and too clever by half . They misread the mood of the world, and the rest, as they say, is history.' Speak volumes of why Goans find themselves miserable in their own land ,but prefer to read it as ' our land is miserable' They have this royal habit of blaming every one other than them selves for their failing /deficiencies. Perhaps we still believe in our great old Portuguese inheritance of business not opening shop before 10 am , having an afternoon nap and then shutting shop by 7 p.m. I clearly recollect the Punjabi restaurant at Panjim way back in 1998 which we had visited with some south India and Maharashtrian friends. The owner was very much impressed by my husbands skills in Punjabi although a Goan and sat out to tell us how he was the loan Punjabi in Goa who graduated from a lowly food stall to a 'Must Visit' eatery in Goa. Today he has got the rest of his family to Goa , diversified and prospered. 10 years latter I see more non goans controlling mot of Goan business where there was none . We shouldn't blame and curse them . But blame and curse ourselves . We have handed over ourselves to non Goans on a platter . First we did it and handed ourselves over to the so called Portuguese Masters . Very soon we will be strangers in our own lands if the trend continues. I am not communal but would at the same time would not like to see the land of my ancestors go out of our hand for petty reasons: 1) We as Goans are against our own , spend more time fighting our brother for inheritance than spending time turning our inheritance into gold. 2) We look for Gold in land way from home while outsiders find it under our feet/ in our backyard. (Why else where ever you run into a Goan in goa the first question he ask you ' So which of your sons is abroad?' ) I have traveled the length and breadth of India and never have I seen people from other parts of India pose this question to each other. In fact I have began to Identify a goan from this one question. 3) Lastly people in other remote parts of India are similar to you , face similar problems regarding their land / their culture . Some have given rise to misguided concepts like Bodo militancy in the north east and the likes in Kashmir. Most of India consists of simple humble people just like you and me and the underline every where irrespective of cast or creed is economic survival. If some so called outsider has come to your land and turned your so called dust into Gold , Goans don't blame him , but appreciate and learn from his hard work and enterprising behavior. Emulating his is the secret and not annihilating him. Bye and Regards Its nice interacting with a few intelligent people like you. Cheryl Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net Mario observes: Cheryl, You are a true Indian patriot. Though, like many Goan Catholics and a few select Hindu business families, your family benefited from the presence of the Portuguese occupiers, you have accepted with considerable maturity, dignity and grace that that was a different time and place that had to change with the changing world and the spread of freedom and democracy among previously European colonies.
[Goanet] Re. Indian Colonoliasm
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible This is an open letter to all so called patriotic Goan's who sadly claim to be under oppressive Indian rule and most often take great pleasure in all things foreign while grossly filing to respect the land of their birth ( Goa) 1) First of all my dear friends ask not what the land of your ancestors has done for you but ask what you are doing for the land of your ancestors. As a registered voter in your own land you only are responsible for the people you vote to power and the way they govern you. The fact that you are not satisfied with your own people who govern you and make the laws of your land( Politicians), shows that there is something grossly wrong with you your self ,as the government consists of your representatives. Why then do you continue to get the same old corrupt officials to power every election. You live in a land where your leaders are chosen off the people , by the people and for the people . You live in a democracy , governed by your own fellow Goans , your so called Portuguese masters did not give you this right and freedom , So dear friends wake up to changing times the need of the hour . Stop living in the past , least you lose touch with the present and your future becomes obsolete . Blame no one but your self for the misery you feel you are in . If many Goans are moving out , it is because of lack of employment opportunities , remember the world is no longer an agrarian economy it was in the nineteenth century. You continue to bring the corrupt to power , you fail to oppose them , then don't lament and blame others for what you are responsible for. 2) Goa has always been an Integral part of the Indian sub continent , be it by blood and culture . Why else would Goans , (Christians inclusive) continue to live die by the Indian culturecaste system. Europeans do not have a caste system. It is a fact that Portuguese came to India in search of fortunes of the East , they did not come here for the sake of Goans ,or because Goa was a part of Europe. They were here for their own selfish motive , Even Portugal the rest of Europe has its own set of problems today. If you feel that migrating to another part of the world ( Portuguese rule ) is a solution to your problems , Then I can only say that you are behaving like the foolish Goat in Aseop's fable who felt that the grass on the other side is greener, You are a sham ! Who is denying his responsibilities towards his mother land Goa . This I feel is akin to a child who stays away from his aged parents and keeps sending money every month with the word ' Parents I love you' . Its easier to send money to the old and infirm rather than to stay with them and put up with their infirmities. Making remittance back to your mother land is no solution . You have to continue be a part of the so called corrupt system in Goa and yet make a change by being honest in what ever little way you can be , never failing to stand up for your rights and that of your neighbors. This is what it is to be a Christian something you may call Portuguese inheritance. The same thing is said by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita . I an ardent Catholic Goan find it difficult to return back to Goa and look after my ancestral property cause God knows which cousin will resurrect from his grave and come for his shares I f you cannot be honest with your own brethren and live happily then why blame the government only. if there is to be peace and prosperity it should begin with me. 3) Even before Goa's liberation Goans have fought to defend the frontiers of India and have left their mark in India Public Life. We have seen Goan's serve in the Civil service defense forces and reach the ranks of Commanding officers and Chief of Staff ,all leaving behind their mark and shaping the destiny of India. Yet Indian from other states have never opposed a Goan at the top , but have happily served under Goans. Some Goans have achieved this not by paying reverence to any forces foreign or Indian , but by their merit , determination and service to their mother land. Hence I could only say this to a few of my disgruntled fellow Goans stop behaving like the last remnants of the Portuguese empire in India and start working for a Better Goa ! A Goa of your dreams. ( My family lost a lot when the Portuguese were driven out of India . We lost our business. My grand dad owned hotel Republica during Portuguese rule , My great grand father had a number of shops was a well
