[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza on Kamala Harris

2020-09-07 Thread Frederick Noronha
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[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza is making a comeback.

2018-08-13 Thread Con Menezes



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[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza - not a Catholic.

2012-10-19 Thread eric pinto
  I used to visit the Peter Dias Road residence. We are
Socoll Vaddo daijis, through my DSouza mother.
  The father was the cult leader of a born-again group
which met out of his spacious home. That was the only
religion Dinesh was exposed to as a young adult.
  There is an explanation for his capacity for the shameless
'big lie' so consistently a part of his jounalistic output: 
Bipolar illness is rampant along that stretch of road that runs 
to Arpora from Mapuca.    eric.




From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca
To: GOANET goa...@goanet.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:57 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza Denies Affair, Forced to Resign from Kings 
College

Folks,
The Tea Party threw Dinesh D'Souza off a cliff today. 

D'Souza's final insult to his Goan and Catholic upbringing was to inform us 
that, I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be 
engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in 
divorce proceedings.

RIP Dinesh.

For those who are interested in the details, here is the link to The Christian 
Post article:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/dinesh-dsouza-im-not-having-an-affair-83549/


Mervyn


[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza Denies Affair, Forced to Resign from Kings College

2012-10-18 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks,
The Tea Party threw Dinesh D'Souza off a cliff today. 

D'Souza's final insult to his Goan and Catholic upbringing was to inform us 
that, I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be 
engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in 
divorce proceedings.

RIP Dinesh.

For those who are interested in the details, here is the link to The Christian 
Post article:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/dinesh-dsouza-im-not-having-an-affair-83549/


Mervyn


[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza

2010-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:01:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca

I picked up this article from The Goan Voice, UK.

It mentions stuff about the most embarrassing (to me) Goan in the USA.

Warning: This is not for the feint of heart. This is also a primer on how far a 
person can go in the good ol' USA when he is extreme right-wing.

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/145181/do_obama_and_geithner_have_the_same_flaw:_accommodation_instead_of_moral_action/

Mario responds:

Talk about embarrassing Goans overseas.

Whether you agree with Dinesh D'Souza's opinions or political philosophy or 
not, shown below are some of his accomplishments in America.  Keep these 
accomplishments in mind when you read Mervyn's posted article where the author, 
Mark Ames, writes, 

Quote:
The Dartmouth Review's editor at that time was Dinesh D'Souza, an Indian 
immigrant eager to play the suck-up waterboy to the university's white 
rightwing elite -- even if that meant being their dark-skinned face of elitist 
white racism.

Under D'Souza's editorship, the Review not only attacked the very same 
affirmative action that helped D'Souza get into Dartmouth,...
Unquote.

Ooooh!  Suck-up waterboy?  Dark-skinned face of elitist white racism?  
affirmative action helped D'Souza get into Dartmouth?  Quite a dispassionate 
and objective observer this Mark Ames, isn't he?

Now compare this with what others have said about Dinesh D'Souza:

http://www.dineshdsouza.com/more/about.html

Excerpt:

D'Souza has been called one of the top young public-policy makers in the 
country by  Investor’s Business Daily. The New York Times Magazine named him 
one of America's most influential conservative thinkers. The World Affairs 
Council lists him as one of the nation's 500 leading authorities on 
international issues. Newsweek cited him as one of the country's most prominent 
Asian Americans.

A former policy analyst in the Reagan White House,  D'Souza also served as John 
M. Olin Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and the Robert and Karen 
Rishwain Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He graduated 
Phi Beta Kappa from Dartmouth College in 1983.
[end of excerpt]

Dinesh is a member of the Phi Beta Kappa honor society.  Members are elected 
based on academic excellence.  From the society web site, You must be elected 
to membership in Phi Beta Kappa by the chapter where you received your 
bachelor's, master's, or Ph.D. degree. We must receive confirmation from the 
chapter before you can be registered as a member of the Society.

Here is what the ancient Honor Society, Phi Beta Kappa, founded in 1776, means 
which includes Bill Clinton among its members:

http://www.pbk.org/infoview/PBK_InfoView.aspx?t=id=8

Here is some information about the members of Phi Beta Kappa:

http://www.pbk.org/infoview/PBK_InfoView.aspx?t=id=59

Excerpt:

Seventeen U.S. Presidents, thirty-eight U.S. Supreme Court Justices, and one 
hundred and thirty-six Nobel laureates can be counted among the ranks of Phi 
Beta Kappa members.
[end of excerpt]

Mervyn is correct.  With accomplishments like these, every Goan should be 
embarrassed that Dinesh D'Souza is a Goan.

And Mark Ames says that Dinesh is a Suck-up waterboy, Dark-skinned face of 
elitist white racism who needed affirmative action to get into Dartmouth.

I don't think either Mervyn or Mark Ames like Dinesh, do you?

Here is an interesting snippet from Mark Ames biography:

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mark_ames/profile.html

Excerpts:

A native son of the California suburbs, Mark graduated from UC Berkeley with a 
degree in Rhetoric. He quickly discovered that the wretched post-Reagan world 
was no place to spend a life, so he fled to the chaos of post-Soviet Russia, a 
culture far freer in all the important ways than pious, cheerless America.

After a few failed stints in Russia’s perilous business world, first as a 
liquor distributor and later as the personal secretary to an Indian beer 
magnate, Ames moved into journalism. In 1997, he founded The eXile, which CNN 
described as “brazen, irreverent, immodest, and rude, adding that it 
lampooned and investigated greed, corruption, cowardice and complacency”.
[end of excerpt]




 



[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza

2010-01-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks,
I picked up this article from The Goan Voice, UK.
 
It mentions stuff about the most embarrassing (to me) Goan in the USA.
 
Warning: This is not for the feint of heart. This is also a primer on how far a 
person can go in the good ol' USA when he is extreme right-wing.

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/145181/do_obama_and_geithner_have_the_same_flaw:_accommodation_instead_of_moral_action/


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Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza

2008-05-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looking at this renowned author, would suggest
we-goanetters tend to look at issues, at best in a
superficial way and at worst by demagoging the
facts.  


On reading the answers given by Dinesh D'Souza to two
very reasonable and sober questions posed by TDR, my
impression of him is worse than what it was before. He
seems to be no better than the we-goanetters
referred to above.

No serious and thoughtful intellectual who genuinely
has profound insights about religion, would have
wasted the questioner's time with tired old banalities
about the inquisition, crusades, crimes of atheists,
Dawkins, Hitchens, Sam Harris and other bugaboos, in
response to:

What do you believe the proper role of religion
in a liberal arts education ought to be? 

and

Whom are you reading these days?

D'Souza sounds to me more like a raving radio talk
show host hacking a handful of trite ideological
talking points and dropping names left and right to
elicit emotional approval from his co-ideologues and
co-religionists.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TDR: What do you believe the proper role of religion
 in a liberal arts education ought to be?
  
 D'Souza: I think this assumption in society that
 somehow religion should be left out of democratic
 debate is a ludicrous one. It's based on a wrong
 view of history that somehow sees religion as
 inherently dangerous. Now, the reason for this myth
 is that we've been subjected, in the last hundred
 years or so, to a form of atheist propaganda, mainly
 the idea that history shows that religion has been a
 toxic and dangerous force in Western if not world
 history.
  ...
 TDR: Whom are you reading these days?
  
 D'Souza: I see the New
Atheists, people like
 Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam
 Harris as Lilliputian front men for the Great
 Atheists of a hundred years ago. I'm thinking of
 figures such as Nietzsche, Heidegger, Sigmund Freud,
 to some degree Marx, Bertrand Russell, and even
 Jean-Paul Sartre. Ultimately, I think as Christians
 there's a need to confront those atheists and the
 arguments that they make.



[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza

2008-05-12 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
The following is from a review of Goan Dinesh D'Souza with The Dartmouth 
Review (TDR).  The web-link to the interview was recently provided by Goanet 
news.  I thought some abstracts from that interview may be of interest to 
Goanetters. Looking at this renowned author, would suggest we-goanetters tend 
to look at issues, at best in a superficial way and at worst by demagoging the 
facts.  The only way a topic / thread stays alive and of interst on Goanet is 
if it becomes controversial - not intellectual.
Regards, GL
 
TDR: What do you believe the proper role of religion in a liberal arts 
education ought to be?
 
D'Souza: I think this assumption in society that somehow religion should be 
left out of democratic debate is a ludicrous one. It's based on a wrong view of 
history that somehow sees religion as inherently dangerous. Now, the reason for 
this myth is that we've been subjected, in the last hundred years or so, to a 
form of atheist propaganda, mainly the idea that history shows that religion 
has been a toxic and dangerous force in Western if not world history. The 
record doesn't actually bear this out. The greatest crimes of religion are 
minute compared to the crimes of atheist regimes which are, in fact, far more 
blood-thirsty and have perpetrated offenses that are far more recent and that 
still are going on. 

The greatest offense of religion and the Christian religion would be something 
like the Inquisition. That's what comes to mind when you think of the crimes of 
religion. And yet, if you look at the historical scholarship on the 
Inquisition-I'm thinking here of Henry Kamen's study of the Spanish 
Inquisition, which was the worst-over about 350 years the Spanish Inquisition 
killed about 2,000-3,000 people. That would factor to about 6-10 people per 
year, which is hardly a world historical crime. You have these atheists crying 
crocodile tears about theses crimes of religion that have occurred three 
hundred, five hundred, sometimes in the case of the Crusades a thousand years 
ago. Yet these people ignore the crimes of atheism perpetrated in the 20th 
century, and I'd say in some cases still continuing. People say that we have to 
avoid the perils of religious theocracy or religious persecution, but there's 
been nothing like that in American history. 

So we are tilting here against imaginary demons. All of this is a way of saying 
that I think there's an unnatural fear of religion that I think has been 
implanted in the American psyche. All of this is behind the idea that not only 
should the government not install an official religion, which I think is not 
only a sensible idea but a Christian idea, but more than that the idea that if 
we engage with religion it becomes the prelude to theocracy. 

The bottom line of it is, I think God and religion should be a vein of open, 
uninhibited inquiry. There's no reason that this topic should be kept off 
limits. I would like to see in American intellectual life a revival of the kind 
of the theological debates that were once commonplace in American universities, 
and even in American public intellectual life.
 
TDR: Whom are you reading these days?
 
D'Souza: Today, my interests are as much theological as they are political. I'm 
reading a philosopher, Charles Taylor, and would recommend in particular his 
book Sources of the Self.  I'm also reading the Great Atheists. I see the New 
Atheists, people like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris as 
Lilliputian front men for the Great Atheists of a hundred years ago. I'm 
thinking of figures such as Nietzsche, Heidegger, Sigmund Freud, to some degree 
Marx, Bertrand Russell, and even Jean-Paul Sartre. Ultimately, I think as 
Christians there's a need to confront those atheists and the arguments that 
they make.


  

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Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....to Victor

2007-11-23 Thread Mario Goveia
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St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King
  December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa

 to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall
 upgrading the school playground

 Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:45:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Glory be! The good old times are back. Mario is once
again resorting to name-calling.
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, who happily lives quite far
from Dinesh D'Souza, but would have welcomed George
Pinto for a neighbour.

Mario observes:

Hey, Victor, there is no pleasing you, is there? 
There I was, trying to respect and compliment you and
raise your profile, and you turn around and accuse me
of name-calling.  Tsk, tsk, tsk:-))

BTW, as usual, you seem to have overlooked the gist of
my post, which was a serious request for you and
George Pinto - whom I nominated only because of his
proximity to Dinesh - to arrange a head-to-head debate
between Santosh and Dinesh.  How about it, hanh???

This would clarify the positions and knowledge of both
and relieve Gilbert of the strain of dealing
single-handedly with Santosh's assertions and
opinions:-))







Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
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 http://www.GOANET.org 
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St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King
  December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa

 to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall
 upgrading the school playground

 Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---

--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Except for the obligatory cheap shot about D'Souza's
 chauvinism, showing disapproval with his point of
 view.  As if Hitchens was any LESS chauvinistic. 
 But, I digress. 


I contend that both D'Souza and Hitchens are
chauvinists, and I have absolutely no sympathy for
either of their main points of view. That they are
chauvinists is clear from their own stated
convictions.

Hitchens' position is that religion is a threat to
human survival. He makes claims such as religious
faith is both the result and the cause of dangerous
sexual repression. 

D'Souza proudly states the following: 

Christianity is the main foundation of Western
civilization, the root of our most cherished values. 

The latest discoveries of modern science support the
Christian claim that there is a divine being who
created the universe.

Cheers,

Santosh


Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-22 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
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 http://www.GOANET.org 
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St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King
  December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa

 to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall
 upgrading the school playground

 Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---

 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:15:57 -0800 (PST)
 From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 As I have said before, the problem with this debate
 was that there was no clear resolution to be for or
 against. So both debaters could erect their own
 straw
 men and flog them to death with stock phrases and
 well
 worn arguments. 
 Mario adds:
 
 
 I think the only way to sort all this out is to hold
 a
 head-to-head debate between Santosh and Dinesh,
 using
 Santosh's detailed format.
 
 I hereby nominate George Pinto, who lives fairly
 close
 to Dinesh D'Souza, assisted by Goanet's pot-stirrer
 extraordinaire, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, who does not,
 to arrange such a debate, which will then be
 broadcast
 across the diaspora.

 
Glory be! The good old times are back. Mario is once
again resorting to name-calling.
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, who happily lives quite far
from Dinesh D'Souza, but would have welcomed George
Pinto for a neighbour


Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Frederick [FN] Noron  ha * ??? 
? ???  ??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
?
 Dinesh D'Souza is talking through his hat
 ...Christopher HItchins scores in this debate, IMO 
 http://tinyurl.com/3detdy (... inspite of
 the organisers of the debate trying to skew things
 by overstating the case Hitchins has to defend) FN

Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:15:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

As I have said before, the problem with this debate
was that there was no clear resolution to be for or
against. So both debaters could erect their own straw
men and flog them to death with stock phrases and well
worn arguments. In my opinion, Dinesh D'Souza proved
that he could do this better than Hitchens in front of
an audience that was overwhelmingly sympathetic to his
chauvinistic point of view.

This would have been a genuine debate, and much more
interesting and worthwhile, if, for example, these
political pundits were asked to debate any of the
following resolutions:

Mario adds:

In contrast with Frederick's generalities, IMNHO,
highlighted by numerous question marks to try and
impress us, but which tell us NOTHING about what he
thinks about any of the specifics of the debate
between D'Souza and Hitchens, Santosh has been very
specific as well as perceptive.

Except for the obligatory cheap shot about D'Souza's
chauvinism, showing disapproval with his point of
view.  As if Hitchens was any LESS chauvinistic.  But,
I digress. 

I think the only way to sort all this out is to hold a
head-to-head debate between Santosh and Dinesh, using
Santosh's detailed format.

I hereby nominate George Pinto, who lives fairly close
to Dinesh D'Souza, assisted by Goanet's pot-stirrer
extraordinaire, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, who does not,
to arrange such a debate, which will then be broadcast
across the diaspora.

The rest of us may even learn something.

As for me, I think we will all find out who was right
soon enough - without wasting a single breath or unit
of energy:-))






Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-21 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
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 http://www.GOANET.org 
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St. Mary's Convent High school, Mapusa is staging a play titled Lion King
  December 1, 2007 - Hanuman Hall, Mapusa

 to fundraise for a false ceiling for the school hall
 upgrading the school playground

 Headmistress Sr. Namika A.C. / Teacher Mrs. Sonia Noronha
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---

On 21/11/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Regarding Frederick's comments about Dinesh, I will
 tell Dinesh that he should start worrying about
 Frederick's opinions once Frederick can command
 speaking or writing fees for an entire year that comes
 anywhere close to what Dinesh makes for a single
 speech:-))

I'll wait for the rupee to appreciate (to something like $50 to the
rupee) and then it might happen :-) FN


Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
As I have said before, the problem with this debate
was that there was no clear resolution to be for or
against. So both debaters could erect their own straw
men and flog them to death with stock phrases and well
worn arguments. In my opinion, Dinesh D'Souza proved
that he could do this better than Hitchens in front of
an audience that was overwhelmingly sympathetic to his
chauvinistic point of view.

This would have been a genuine debate, and much more
interesting and worthwhile, if, for example, these
political pundits were asked to debate any of the
following resolutions:

1. Resolved: Belief in God, or especially my God, is
essential to human progress and/or survival of the
human civilization.

2. Resolved: A lack of belief in God will be essential
to continued human progress and/or the ultimate
survival of the human civilization.

3. Resolved: Faith is essential to human progress
and/or survival of the human civilization.

4. Resolved: Morality is derived entirely from
religious teachings and revelation.

5. Resolved: Christianity is responsible for
originating the principles of equality, democracy and
brotherly love.

6. Resolved: Belief in God(s) or in a particular type
of God(s) is irrational.

7. Resolved: A lack of belief in God(s) is irrational.

8. Resolved: Religious thinking in general, or
Christian theology, in particular, led to scientific
discoveries and progress.

9. Resolved: Eradication of religion, or a particular
religion, would lead to a peaceful society and to
human progress.

10. Resolved: Religion (or especially, my religion)
and Science are not in conflict.

11. Resolved: Explanations and justifications derived
from religion (or especially, my religion) should play
an important role in science, public education,
political decisions and legislation.

12. Resolved: Modern scientific knowledge is a
recapitulation of the wisdom contained in sacred
revealed texts of my religion.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- Frederick [FN] Noron  ha * फ्रेड 
रिक न  ोरोंया
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dinesh D'Souza is talking through his hat
 ...Christopher HItchins
 scores in this debate, IMO http://tinyurl.com/3detdy
 (... inspite of
 the organisers of the debate trying to skew things
 by overstating the
 case Hitchins has to defend) FN
 


Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-20 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:45:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Frederick,
Oh dear! You accuse Dinesh D'Souza of talking
through his hat? You're going to get our Mario all
worked up, and we'll never hear the end of this. He's
already locked in a battle with Mervyn, and now you've
gone and opened a second front...

Mario clarifies:

Dear Victor,

I see you are still engaged in trying to stir up the
pot without adding anything to the general debate:-))

There is no battle with Mervyn going on.  Only a minor
dispute about a choice of terms.  I understand his
figures and how he uses them perhaps better than he
does.  After all, I have an MBA, as Gabe reminded
everyone, and everyone knows that MBA's are taught
this stuff and then some, and don't just pick it up
from their friends and neighbors:-))

Actually, I would recommend a hurdle rate higher than
the puny 5.1% and also recommend different hurdle
rates depending on the perceived risk in an
investment.  See, that expensive MBA did teach me some
tricks of the trade:-))  But Mervyn knows all this,
too, and says he makes a lot of money with it.  Good
for him.

Where I took issue was when he a) described a private
expectation as an official statistic, and b) thought
he could take a cheap shot at the US by claiming that
the US routinely excludes the cost of food and
gasoline in calculating inflation, which is plainly
false.

Regarding Frederick's comments about Dinesh, I will
tell Dinesh that he should start worrying about
Frederick's opinions once Frederick can command
speaking or writing fees for an entire year that comes
anywhere close to what Dinesh makes for a single
speech:-))

Until then, Dinesh has little to worry about:-))






Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....//to FN

2007-11-20 Thread Carvalho

--- Frederick [FN] Noron  ha * फ्रेड 
रिक न  ोरोंया
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dinesh D'Souza is talking through his hat
 ...Christopher HItchins
 scores in this debate, IMO http://tinyurl.com/3detdy
 (... inspite of
 the organisers of the debate trying to skew things
 by overstating the
 case Hitchins has to defend) FN
--
Dear FN,

Were you trapped in one of those Mandovi restrooms
when this debate was raging on Goanet? :-)

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[Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-19 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Dinesh D'Souza is talking through his hat ...Christopher HItchins
scores in this debate, IMO http://tinyurl.com/3detdy (... inspite of
the organisers of the debate trying to skew things by overstating the
case Hitchins has to defend) FN
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Re: [Goanet] Dinesh D'Souza....

2007-11-19 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro

--- Frederick [FN] Noron  ha * फ्रेड 
रिक न  ोरोंया
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dinesh D'Souza is talking through his hat
 ...Christopher HItchins
 scores in this debate, IMO http://tinyurl.com/3detdy
 (... inspite of
 the organisers of the debate trying to skew things
 by overstating the
 case Hitchins has to defend) FN
 -- 
 Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 

Dear Frederick,
 Oh dear! You accuse Dinesh D'Souza of talking
through his hat? You're going to get our Mario all
worked up, and we'll never hear the end of this. He's
already locked in a battle with Mervyn, and now you've
gone and opened a second front...
 Regards,
 Victor