Re: [Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels
Heh, heh, heh what confrontation? Just free advice from someone who has no or minimal contribution to Goa and which is not wanted! Why is Goveia using Arwin, Rajan, Carmen, etc for a crutch? Note the reference to others who were spending their time and money. Looks like scrooge doesn't want to spend any of it and is only dropping names to try and score points. Besides the man sounds like he's squealing while being gang raped by the notorious Tony and Samir. Free advice: If you have to be raped, you might as well sit back and enjoy it. And as I said earlier and and am saying again at the risk of repeating my self, Mario is at work again trying to tell his of repeated lies. The bottom line is Tuen tor Goenche passot xent bhor kitem kellam zalear ulloi na zalear mar piluk = Mario Anyone who has followed this unnecessary firefight, where I confronted a furious personal assault on all foren NRGs by Tony and Samir, especially those who were actually spending their own time and money to address the problems in Goa, should be able to tell that this poster has either not understood a word of the discussion, and is the kind of foren NRG who has nothing constructive to add. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Sent from India
Re: [Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels (Mario Goveia)
@Mario I have had my say and I have proved that you are fond of telling bald faced lies. My feelings on the subject stand. BTW What is your personal contribution to Goa? The flat you bought in Panjim which you will now claim holds up the economy of Goa by providing employment to a sweeper, cook and Gurkha? Put your money where your mouth is. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels (Mario Goveia)
On 31 January 2010 15:54, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: @Mario IBTW What is your personal contribution to Goa? The flat you bought in Panjim which you will now claim holds up the economy of Goa by providing employment to a sweeper, cook and Gurkha? Put your money where your mouth is. COMMENT: First of all my admiration for Anil Desai, his contribution fits the bill of helping Goans both monetarily and also in uplifting people to better themselves. Now, now, now...the response you will get - I'll jump the gun - it is no one's business as to what contribution Goveia makes. He has been on record as stating that he does not mean to input into Goa...then on second thoughts, he stated that he pays tax on his flat. Pprobably 100 Rupees per year. Then he supports the local economy by buying a small bottle of King Fisher and by buying his food from the Gadda stand near his place. I really can't figure out why time and time again people get entrapped into responding to him! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels
- From Tony de Sa: Moira-based headmaster ... telling us that Goa is a mess and change the system blah blah blah ad nauseam. From Mario Goveia: America-based voice of peace and reason For your nauseum, take a pill with some kanji. --- GL responds: I was going to send this for tomorrow but the exchange n this topic is getting hot and heavy. Hey Guys, ( Tony and Mario) Thanks for the humor on this Sunday morning. With your bye-lines following your names you-both should be role-models for supurlo goenkars like moi, instead of this pi**ing contest. You are giving medicine a bad name; with you-both diagnosing and prescribing treatments. What is going to happen to the medical profession? Did Bosco send a memo? I did not know that Goanet became a b*tt-kicking forum. What ever happened to Float like a butterfly sting like a bee? I still thought we had to abide by St. Selma's teachings: Being an honourable citizen of Goa is a much valued contribution itself. Not all of us are called upon to do great things in life but all of us are called up to do noble and honourable things in life and the collective breath of honour and nobility is what makes a great society. Please all say AMEN ... loudly!!! Now some can get back to chao-meow again; after loudly saying, Who the beep cares about St. Selma's teachings. Regards, GL PS: I have refrained from adding any smiley faces.
[Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels
http://oheraldo.in/newpage.php?month=1day=27year=2010catid=14 That was the caption of the article in the Herald by Rico. In this article Rico says quote In the recent debate on Goanet, the largest Goa-linked mailing-list, the first salvo came from Moira-based headmaster Tony de Sa. He penned a missive titled ‘From one RG to another, an open letter’ [ http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/]. unquote. I can gather that the posts on this topic and its offshoots have not found favour with certain posters on Goanet. At this juncture, I would like to emphasize my stand and that of many other Goans like me. We are not against NRGs per se and I have said time and again, we certainly appreciate the work done by many NRGs who as Vivian says work and donate silently. Vivian says quote I sincerely hope we can stop this labelling game, as we are all Goenkars, and our hearts and sympathies are with mother Goa unquote I am sure most Niz Goenkars would echo this sentiment. What I personally and I am sure many like me decry is the patronizing, supercilious, know it all Non Resident Goenkar. Not all of us who live in Goa are ignoramuses not all of us hanker for that gift, money or visa that is dangled in front of the local Goan nor do we appreciate show offs among the foren returned Goans who try to impress us with money power. Most of all we do not want the gratuitous advice which is showered by hot air balloons. Like telling us that Goa is a mess and change the system blah blah blah ad nauseam. Change the system yes. I would second that. How is the question. The single Goan who can change the system is yet to be born. What is required is a collective peoples movement - a wave. Given the ground situation and the politics and the constitutional limitations, I do not see this possible for quite a long time to come. Let's face facts. As a rule (and this is an assumption which need not always be true), christaoes vote for the secular parties and the hindus vote for the hindu leaning parties. Christaoes vote secular in the hope that they will not be persecuted and will have a Government that will favour or at least not harm them. Now if the so called secular parties field rotters, aren't they forced to vote for the rotters? Friend Floriano has tried to change the system, but with all his enthusiasm and zeal, what is the nett result? P A Sangma and Sharad Pawar tried to buck India's biggest secular party and the last election left egg on their faces. Many of us have stayed in Goa even though there were opportunities to migrate. This was a choice that we made. Many of us too have made silent contributions to the state in terms of time, money, skills and talent. Many of us have been in decision making bodies that have shaped things in Goa. Is that not serving Goa? I would like to end this by echoing Vivians words that I have quoted above. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] RGs v/s NRGs ... Diaspora Duels
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:17:09 +0530 From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com At this juncture, I would like to emphasize my stand and that of many other Goans like me. We are not against NRGs per se and I have said time and again, we certainly appreciate the work done by many NRGs who as Vivian says work and donate silently. Vivian says quote I sincerely hope we can stop this labelling game, as we are all Goenkars, and our hearts and sympathies are with mother Goa unquote I am sure most Niz Goenkars would echo this sentiment. Mario responds: Vivian was right. However you have just made up a stand out of thin air. It was you and Samir who suddenly emerged from your dank hideouts to furiously attack any NRG with foreign citizenship who wanted to do something for Goa, which is the only reason I got involved to draw your fire. Tony wrote: What I personally and I am sure many like me decry is the patronizing, supercilious, know it all Non Resident Goenkar. Not all of us who live in Goa are ignoramuses not all of us hanker for that gift, money or visa that is dangled in front of the local Goan nor do we appreciate show offs among the foren returned Goans who try to impress us with money power. Most of all we do not want the gratuitous advice which is showered by hot air balloons. Like telling us that Goa is a mess and change the system blah blah blah ad nauseam. Mario responds: For your nauseum, take a pill with some kanji. What you appreciate or not is your problem. You should have thought about that before you joined Samir's attack in foren NRGs. Are we supposed to appreciate your attacks? I don't think Carmen, Rajan, Arwin, Anil, etc. are spending their valuable time and money to impress you or anyone else. Tony wrote: Change the system yes. I would second that. How is the question. Mario responds: How, indeed. A useless question, in my foren NRG opinion. The last time I checked it was corruption that was the problem, not the system of government in Goa. Tony wrote: Now if the so called secular parties field rotters, aren't they forced to vote for the rotters? Friend Floriano has tried to change the system, but with all his enthusiasm and zeal, what is the nett result? Mario responds: Put up candidates who are not rotters, like Floriano, then rally support to get him elected. Easier said than done, but you have no alternative. If Floriano has been trying to change the system he is wasting his time. Tony wrote: P A Sangma and Sharad Pawar tried to buck India's biggest secular party and the last election left egg on their faces. Mario responds: Tell them I said to wipe off the egg and get back in the game. Richard Nixon, who had his share of egg on his face, said, You are not a failure if you lose, only if you quit. Tony wrote: Many of us have stayed in Goa even though there were opportunities to migrate. This was a choice that we made. Many of us too have made silent contributions to the state in terms of time, money, skills and talent. Many of us have been in decision making bodies that have shaped things in Goa. Is that not serving Goa? Mario responds: Yes it is, and for that we foren NRGs thank you. Tony wrote: I would like to end this by echoing Vivians words that I have quoted above. Mario responds: Good. If you really mean this quit your attacks on foren NRGs and join those of them who want to help in Goa. You could have taken issue with Samir's attacks long a ago, but, instead, you joined him and wasted our time and energy and deflected attention from the real problems in Goa. BTW, when are you and Wendell going to see the Sarpanch in Carmona?
