Re: [Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-27 Thread sonia gomes
Another restaurant is Five Flowers in Cansaulim

Sonia do Rosario Gomes 
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dearest Clinton,
 I am glad wildlife Goa is taking on this battle.
 Martin's Corner is definitely the worst offender,
 and
 I write this because I myself have been offered
 jumping chicken by the staff of this restaurant,
 when neither I nor the party I was with had
 requested
 froglegs. 
 
 When I asked why they were serving something that is
 illegal in Goa they just shrugged their shoulders.
 We
 can forget about outsiders ruining Goa, Goans
 themselves are flagrant abusers of every law in the
 book which is designed to protect our eco-system. 
 
 Please do make a list, please get it published in
 Herald (as this is the mostly widely subscribed
 newspaper in Salcete)or some other public forum. If
 you need financial assistance to get such a list
 published, I shall be only too glad to chip in.
 
 best regards,
 selma
 --
 --- Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Neil,
  
  I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade.
  Martin's Corner at 
  Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/
  bars that serve frogs 
  legs.
  
  WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue
  restaurants/bars, so 
  everyone reading this, please step up and publicly
  (or offlist), 
 
 
  


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Re: [Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-27 Thread Nigel Britto
Hey people,

Nice initiative. WHy don't we add boar/deer too to the menu?

:)

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:09 PM, sonia gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Another restaurant is Five Flowers in Cansaulim

 Sonia do Rosario Gomes
 --- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dearest Clinton,
  I am glad wildlife Goa is taking on this battle.
  Martin's Corner is definitely the worst offender,
  and
  I write this because I myself have been offered
  jumping chicken by the staff of this restaurant,
  when neither I nor the party I was with had
  requested
  froglegs.
 
  When I asked why they were serving something that is
  illegal in Goa they just shrugged their shoulders.
  We
  can forget about outsiders ruining Goa, Goans
  themselves are flagrant abusers of every law in the
  book which is designed to protect our eco-system.
 
  Please do make a list, please get it published in
  Herald (as this is the mostly widely subscribed
  newspaper in Salcete)or some other public forum. If
  you need financial assistance to get such a list
  published, I shall be only too glad to chip in.
 
  best regards,
  selma
  --
  --- Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi Neil,
  
   I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade.
   Martin's Corner at
   Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/
   bars that serve frogs
   legs.
  
   WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue
   restaurants/bars, so
   everyone reading this, please step up and publicly
   (or offlist),
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: [Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-24 Thread Carvalho
Dearest Clinton,
I am glad wildlife Goa is taking on this battle.
Martin's Corner is definitely the worst offender, and
I write this because I myself have been offered
jumping chicken by the staff of this restaurant,
when neither I nor the party I was with had requested
froglegs. 

When I asked why they were serving something that is
illegal in Goa they just shrugged their shoulders. We
can forget about outsiders ruining Goa, Goans
themselves are flagrant abusers of every law in the
book which is designed to protect our eco-system. 

Please do make a list, please get it published in
Herald (as this is the mostly widely subscribed
newspaper in Salcete)or some other public forum. If
you need financial assistance to get such a list
published, I shall be only too glad to chip in.

best regards,
selma
--
--- Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Neil,
 
 I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade.
 Martin's Corner at 
 Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/
 bars that serve frogs 
 legs.
 
 WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue
 restaurants/bars, so 
 everyone reading this, please step up and publicly
 (or offlist), 


  

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Re: [Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-24 Thread Seb dc
Hi Clinton,

I just returned last week from Goa and a friend in Colva showed me a place
on way to Betalbatim, just after crossing the Railway bridge near the pond
there is this place which also serves the dish. I was not much concerned, so
did not note the name of the Restaurant, but i am sure you will locate it.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


- Original Message -
From: Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:23 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of
serving frog legs


 Hi Neil,

 I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade. Martin's Corner at
 Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/ bars that serve frogs
 legs.

 WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue restaurants/bars, so
 everyone reading this, please step up and publicly (or offlist), name
 all the Shakari Spice Plantations, Anoushkas, Five Flowers and Martins
 Corners in Goa that defy the ban and serve frog legs and other banned
 wild meat. We won't directly accuse them saying that you said so, but
 simply publicly petition the Forest Department to issue notices to these
 places and ensure that adequate publicity is given when these notices
 are issued.

 This is very possible, and has been done in the past in Goa, with very
 successful results. If it does not scare the restaurant, the publicity
 will shame them.

 Let's make a difference this season. Step up and help us compile this
 list everyone! we need YOUR support. We meet the Forest Dept on Friday.
 Any responses before then will be most appreciated.

 Clinton..
 +91 9890936828





[Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-24 Thread Satyawan Govekar
  Clinton bab said: WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue 
restaurants/bars, so  everyone reading this, please step up and publicly (or 
offlist), name  all the Shakari Spice Plantations, Anoushkas, Five Flowers and 
Martins  Corners in Goa that defy the ban and serve frog legs and other banned 
 wild meat. We won't directly accuse them saying that you said so, but  
simply publicly petition the Forest Department to issue notices to these  
places and ensure that adequate publicity is given when these notices  are 
issued.


Dear Clinton bab

I am not eating frogs, because I am liking only fish, not meat. But I am 
failing to understand the time and energy that environmentalists spend on doing 
something that is not very important. If you make such a list public then 
public will go to that place to eat frogs. Then there will be demand to make a 
list of people who are giving deer meat, rabbit, and many other wild life

if you want go on and fight to save frogs but more important is to fight to 
save the ponds and the low lying areas which are the breeding place for frogs 
and other aquatic animals. Also what about chemistry labs in college which are 
using frog for dissection. It is only my suggestion so please don't take it 
wrong.

Satyamev Jayate


[Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are, suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-24 Thread Clinton Vaz

Dear Mr Satyawan Govekar,

Thanks for your reply to my mail. Unfortuntly, I don't agree with you that 
saving the frogs is unimportant and a waste of time. The WildGoa network is NOT 
another NGO, but an informal network of those interested in Wildlife issues in 
Goa.

Using a mix of resources from NGOs, and Government Departments, and volunteers, 
we are trying to achieve something with minimal effort. This is because we 
don't all have the time for something full fledged as we all have our own jobs 
that keep us busy, but we all put in additional time, effort and money to such 
issues that the government chooses to ignore. We are working on a systematic 
plan to increase awareness on the issue involving press, radio and local tv 
stations and the list is just one of the ways to help the cause.

We are just compiling a list that will be submitted to the Forest Department, 
and not to the press. Once we submit the list of restaurants, we will check 
back to see if the forest department has indeed issued them a warning notice to 
all the restaurants BEFORE the start of the season. The warning notice is just 
something to scare them, and let them know that for once, the forest department 
has noticed them selling illegal meat.

There's no need to limit this list just to frog meat, all game meat that's 
illegal can be included in the list which includes wild boar, Gaur, Porcupine, 
Deer, and so on..

If the forest department STILL fails to act, we shall then ask the press to 
follow up, and also ask them to use RTI, and if the list of restaurants is made 
public that way, then i'm sure that the people in support for saving the frogs 
would boycott the restaurants and outnumber those interested in looking for 
places to get frog meat.

This exercies was done last season in Canacona and produced results. I've got 
about 7 names to the list so far... please help lengthen the list..

We meet to discuss this issue TOMORROW (Friday) at 4.30pm at the Kala Academy 
Canteen Lawns. You are welcome to join and give us some constructive criticism. 
I agree that there are many issues in Goa that need to be addressed, but let's 
work on each one one at a time. I'm sure that we will listen to your advice if 
the group feels it makes sense.

Thanks!

Clinton..
+91 9890936828


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suspected ofserving frog legs
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?Clinton bab said: WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue restaurants/bars, so  everyone 
reading this, please step up and publicly (or offlist), name  all the Shakari Spice Plantations, 
Anoushkas, Five Flowers and Martins  Corners in Goa that defy the ban and serve frog legs and 
other banned  wild meat. We won't directly accuse them saying that you said so, but  simply 
publicly petition the Forest Department to issue notices to these  places and ensure that 
adequate publicity is given when these notices  are issued.


Dear Clinton bab

I am not eating frogs, because I am liking only fish, not meat. But I am 
failing to understand the time and energy that environmentalists spend on doing 
something that is not very important. If you make such a list public then 
public will go to that place to eat frogs. Then there will be demand to make a 
list of people who are giving deer meat, rabbit, and many other wild life

if you want go on and fight to save frogs but more important is to fight to 
save the ponds and the low lying areas which are the breeding place for frogs 
and other aquatic animals. Also what about chemistry labs in college which are 
using frog for dissection. It is only my suggestion so please don't take it 
wrong.

Satyamev Jayate



[Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-23 Thread Clinton Vaz

Hi Neil,

I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade. Martin's Corner at 
Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/ bars that serve frogs 
legs.


WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue restaurants/bars, so 
everyone reading this, please step up and publicly (or offlist), name 
all the Shakari Spice Plantations, Anoushkas, Five Flowers and Martins 
Corners in Goa that defy the ban and serve frog legs and other banned 
wild meat. We won't directly accuse them saying that you said so, but 
simply publicly petition the Forest Department to issue notices to these 
places and ensure that adequate publicity is given when these notices 
are issued.


This is very possible, and has been done in the past in Goa, with very 
successful results. If it does not scare the restaurant, the publicity 
will shame them.


Let's make a difference this season. Step up and help us compile this 
list everyone! we need YOUR support. We meet the Forest Dept on Friday. 
Any responses before then will be most appreciated.


Clinton..
+91 9890936828

Neil Alvares wrote:
Hello everyone, Well I really do hope something can be done in this 
area. If anyone is looking for  nice place to start some action, 
Theres a Famous restaurant at 'BETALBATIM in the South,  it is really 
very popular and does such fantastic business that they don't need to 
serve their  specialty dish (Called 'Jumping Chicken'), but yet they 
dish out hundreds of orders an evening. I had a couple of arguements 
there ages ago but to no avail... I hope something can be done about 
it. If you're looking for the restaurant.. just follow the signboards, 
 the restaurant starts with an 'M' and has an art in in it (oops 
repeated word)... or is it??