Re: [Goanet] Endemic corruption in Goa - shall we do something about it?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state Daddy's Home in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- “Corruption undermines democratic institutions,... Baai Carmen, here in lies the problem and there may be discussions and *yawn* more discussions, all fruitless...because I think some of us wrongly assess the nature of the beast (that is us Goichis). We aren't made for democracy, nor an orderly or civil way of life (you mentioned Goan civil society in an earlier post- my pet pigling and me laughed s hard); ours is a life carved out of chaos and mayhem and we wiggle in betweenslippery and slimy...and the only thing peaceful are the swaying palms (not even, my fresh from Kuiit neighbour has brought a plastic version). One can give you a million examples but an easy one is to go to any bankwatch how there everyone is trying to get ahead of the queue. Now, get real yo..this is going to take yours, my pet pigling Catrina's and my lifetimes to change this, maybe more. Say, why get rid of corruption anyways? For whose benefit? Goa is a lost cause...and we are done...in a very short time, Goichis will be rare as wild boars (in Goa that is). I think there is a fair assessment in Goa and the Blue Mountain (on our nature). I know the chappie is down right raci*t in todays politically correct world but, he has a point.. Some earlier poster said the father of corruption is. *** from Margao.. The true artist of corruption were the P*rtuguese where everything worked on the 'favor' system. In post-liberation Goa, it was the now X spouse of a former CM who started with the public transport system*wink wink wink*...be my guest, take a guess. As for the jokesleast you have forgotten, there is a cryptic message in Goan humour and Iet me remind some of the grumpy majority on the GoaNet...lighten up: its a Goan thing to be jovial and laugh at ourselves, even if it is about corruption! Since when did we take life seriously? armen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state Daddy's Home in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- Interesting how faced with one of the biggest crisis in Goa which in my view is CORRUPTION, there has been such poor reaction to the call for action in this forum – the reaction ( or lack of it) makes me think of the ostrich who buries its head in the sand , and hopes the danger will go away all by itself….. Instead of getting a resounding YES! LET’S DO SOMETING! … I mostly got “beating around the bush” responses and few jokes, except for a couple of positives, which led into a discussion about electricity! and which I hope will illuminate the path to action! Here is a paragraph from the UN document - Convention against Corruption : “Corruption undermines democratic institutions, slows economic development and contributes to governmental instability. Corruption attacks the foundation of democratic institutions by distorting electoral processes, perverting the rule of law and creating bureaucratic quagmires whose only reason for existing is the soliciting of bribes.“ Did that inspire you to act? . By the way, let’s remind ourselves that it is not enough to say – yes, let’s do it! Let’s fight corruption. The questions of: WHO, WHEN and HOW remain to be resolved and pinned down. Commitment, organization and mobilization and leadership need to be sorted out urgently. And by the way Soter, the fact the women of Bicholim closed down all the bars, does not surprise me at all! India’s biggest socio-environmental-anti-alcohol movement renown world over, the Chipko movement, was started and faught by women! Most people think it was just about hugging trees. Few people know that the Chipko women were also fighting alcoholism and corruption amongst their husbands , who accepted bribes from contractors to cut trees, and used the money to
[Goanet] Endemic corruption in Goa - shall we do something about it?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state Daddy's Home in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- I am fully with what Anesimo said. Let us the year be declared as the year of LIBERATION FROM CORRUPTION. Anesimo said: Those who see black in every solution will never achieve any positive. I can understand the feelings of those who have not acheived anything and have developed a negative mondset. Find alternate ways of doing things. Many so called I KNOW IT ALL GURUS think that theirs is the only way of doing things. By now they must have realised that this battle cannot be fought on their own. We can argue, fight, disagree and insult each other at our will. But for the sake of Goa, lets get together. Let 19th December be the day for the second Liberation of Goa from CORRUPTION! Rajendra
[Goanet] Endemic corruption in Goa - shall we do something about it?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state Daddy's Home in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- Interesting how faced with one of the biggest crisis in Goa which in my view is CORRUPTION, there has been such poor reaction to the call for action in this forum – the reaction ( or lack of it) makes me think of the ostrich who buries its head in the sand , and hopes the danger will go away all by itself…..Instead of getting a resounding YES! LET’S DO SOMETING! … I mostly got “beating around the bush” responses and few jokes, except for a couple of positives, which led into a discussion about electricity! and which I hope will illuminate the path to action! Here is a paragraph from the UN document - Convention against Corruption : “Corruption undermines democratic institutions, slows economic development and contributes to governmental instability. Corruption attacks the foundation of democratic institutions by distorting electoral processes, perverting the rule of law and creating bureaucratic quagmires whose only reason for existing is the soliciting of bribes.“ Did that inspire you to act? . By the way, let’s remind ourselves that it is not enough to say – yes, let’s do it! Let’s fight corruption. The questions of: WHO, WHEN and HOW remain to be resolved and pinned down. Commitment, organization and mobilization and leadership need to be sorted out urgently. And by the way Soter, the fact the women of Bicholim closed down all the bars, does not surprise me at all! India’s biggest socio-environmental-anti-alcohol movement renown world over, the Chipko movement, was started and faught by women! Most people think it was just about hugging trees. Few people know that the Chipko women were also fighting alcoholism and corruption amongst their husbands , who accepted bribes from contractors to cut trees, and used the money to drinking…. Why, I wonder, do I feel that perhaps only women can save Goa from its decline and total destruction? Where are all the women, by the way? And, where are all the men, for that matter? Let the battle commence! Carmen Miranda
Re: [Goanet] Endemic corruption in Goa - shall we do something about it?
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Indeed, Yes.
Where are all the women??
Where are all the men??
Let the battle begin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
Ten years down the line, we are yet to see the numbers against CORRUPTION.
On the contrary they do not like the name of the PARTY which actually means
'GOOD GOVERNANCE'.
Cheers
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From: Carmen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com
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it?
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Here is a paragraph
from the UN document - Convention against Corruption : “Corruption
undermines democratic institutions, slows economic development and
contributes to governmental instability. Corruption attacks the foundation
of democratic institutions by distorting electoral processes, perverting the
rule of law and creating bureaucratic quagmires whose only reason for
existing is the soliciting of bribes.“ Did that inspire you to act? .
Where are all the
women, by the way? And, where are all the men, for that matter? Let the
battle commence! Carmen Miranda
[Goanet] Endemic corruption in Goa - shall we do something about it?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state Daddy's Home in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- Carmen wrote: Interesting how faced with one of the biggest crisis in Goa which in my view is CORRUPTION, there has been such poor reaction to the call for action in this forum ? the reaction ( or lack of it) makes me think of the ostrich who buries its head in the sand , and hopes the danger will go away all by itself?..Instead of getting a resounding YES! LET?S DO SOMETING! ? I mostly got ?beating around the bush? responses and few jokes, except for a couple of positives, which led into a discussion about electricity! My Response: Carmen, what you have said is another reality of Goa. We, Goans mince more words than actions. Those who are outside Goa are helpless to partake as well to sponsor/support those who are fighting battles in Goa. Goans aspire to lead no to be lead just as is the case of our political establishment. Result heartbreaks. Beating chest will not bring results but action will. I came across something today http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/profile.php?id=11635726493 The unique revolution of a different kind. We still hope to have some revolution this 19 th Dec 2010. Liberation from within. Warm regards, Agnelo Pinheiro
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Dear all
So far, all we have been hearing was negative about everything
happening in Goa and pessimistic attitude to every solution .Those who
see black in everything, will never have any positive solutions.I can
understand the feelings of those who have been trying to do something
and have not acheived anything and have developed a negative mondset.
It is time to think and analyse the past and learn from it. Also, find
out whether there are alternate ways of doing things. Some people on
this forum and many so called I KNOW IT ALL GURUS think that theirs is
the only way of doing things.If we want to tackle this menance in Goa,
we need ideas and help from every quarters.For whatever reasons known
to them, Our Goyenkars in Goa are averse to any suggestions/help from
Goyenkars worldwide. By now they must have realised that this battle
cannot be fought on their own. If they really want to save Goa, it is
time they join hands with every Goan worldwide. We can argue, fight,
disagree and insult each other at our will. But for the sake of Goa,
lets get together and do something CONCRETE!
Let 19th December be the day for the second Liberation of Goa from
CORRUPTION!
Cheers
Anesimo
