Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Gabe Menezes wrote:
 My Dear Mervyn,
 You have missed the trick and given it away; What was asked is, if you have
 retired. You have answered that it would not be fair on your clients, to
 give it away - in short you have not retired as you had stated when Gold
 reached..
 DEV BOREM KORUM
--

Gabe Menezes,
I still wake up every morning and trudge, in the snow, barefoot, uphill, to 
work.

Life has never been better to me than it is now.

The few folks of my age group that I know who have retired, insist that they 
wake up each
morning and send an email to Bernanke, and all the other central bankers, 
advising them to
print more paper money. Then they watch Tv the whole day flipping between their 
favourite
shows and the financial channel that shows the gold charts.

When asked what else is there to do, the reply usually is, We also send nasty 
emails to 
people we do not like.

Mervyn
P.S. I hope this makes sense. I have spent the whole day celebrating 50 years 
of Tanzania's 
independence. 

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Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 7 December 2011 00:56, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Bosco D wrote;
 That's a sobering comment!! What about the reference to predictions here
 on New Year's 2011:


 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2011-January/203859.html

 -

 - B :-)
 As of today, 6th December, 2011, the price of gold is up 22% for the year.
 Up 22%!!
 Those who have gold are now used to this annual rate while those who do
 not, remain  (e?)motionless.
 .

 Secondly, it is not too difficult to calculate where the POG is going.
 The POG remains a reaction to how well the western governments are
 mismanaging their economies.


 I could get into details with this but it would be rather unfair to those
 who have to pay me for the same info.


 Mervyn
 Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we
 didn't
 - Erica Jong -


My Dear Mervyn,

You have missed the trick and given it away; What was asked is, if you have
retired. You have answered that it would not be fair on your clients, to
give it away - in short you have not retired as you had stated when Gold
reached..
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

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Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-06 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Bosco D wrote;
That's a sobering comment!! What about the reference to predictions here on New 
Year's 2011:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2011-January/203859.html

-

- B :-)
As of today, 6th December, 2011, the price of gold is up 22% for the year.
Up 22%!!
Those who have gold are now used to this annual rate while those who do not, 
remain  (e?)motionless.
.

Secondly, it is not too difficult to calculate where the POG is going.
The POG remains a reaction to how well the western governments are mismanaging 
their economies.


I could get into details with this but it would be rather unfair to those who 
have to pay me for the same info.


Mervyn
Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't
- Erica Jong -

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Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
Rock Furtado wrote:

Studies now talk of Oneness or Singularity as possibilities of the future. 
The basic belief is that human consciousness is constant and the physical body 
is transient. What if the body itself is permanent as consciousness? Are we 
in a position to retain a physical body that is constant?



Studies do not point to the permanence and constancy of consciousness. Indeed, 
they suggest quite the opposite. Consciousness is a physical phenomenon that is 
completely dependent on the physical body, and perishes with it. In brain dead 
patients on life support it perishes before the death of the body.

Cheers,

Santosh


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Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-05 Thread Mervyn Lobo
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/edit-page/30415446_1_cells-doomsday-calendar

The latest Doomsday prophecy based on the Mayan calendar has seized popular 
attention; 
it points to December 21, 2012 being the end of days. The Mayan calendar stops 
at December 
21, 2012 - and the next thing you hear is...that this is the prediction for the 
end of the world. Yes, 
the Mayan calendar is very detailed and covers thousands of years - and for it 
to stop at 2012 
suddenly, is taken to imply that it's the end.
--

Folks,
The Mayan calendar points out to December 21, 2012 as the end of an era and not 
the end of days.

No one can predict the future, yet there are lots of my brothers and sisters 
who are willing to believe
that some people, or a group of people, can. In fact, when I opened the link 
above, there was another 
large link to the daily horoscope.  People read and believe the daily horoscope 
in the year 2011? 

As for the end of the era, is there anyone here who is willing to bet that the 
price of gold will be at its
highest price ever on December 21, 2012? Or on that day, 
world currencies collapse and another
form of money comes into existence? Hey! if journalists and astrologers can 
make money writing 
pure rubbish, perhaps the easiest way to make money is by milking the folks who 
read such stuff.

Mervyn

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Re: [Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-05 Thread Bosco D

-Original Message-
From: Mervyn Lobo
Sent: December-05-11 8:30 PM

 Folks,

 No one can predict the future, yet there are lots of my brothers and
 sisters who are willing to believe that some people, or a group of
 people, can.


RESPONSE: That's a sobering comment!! What about the reference to 
predictions here on New Year's 2011:


http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2011-January/203859.html


- B :-)


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[Goanet] Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

2011-12-04 Thread Rock Furtado

Goodbye death, Hello Immortality

Rock Furtado
Nov 19, 2011


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/edit-page/30415446_1_cells-doomsday-calendar


Who isn't familiar with Doomsday prophecies? They've been around since 
ages. Why are we afraid? Perhaps we're scared of the retribution that 
will follow death - a great life in Heaven for the good and a bad one in 
Hell for others. Light candle...say a prayer...worship a deity...beg for 
forgiveness. All in all, there is a pattern that keeps Doomsday 
prophecies alive and kicking and every generation has had the good 
fortune of having lived through them.


The latest Doomsday prophecy based on the Mayan calendar has seized 
popular attention; it points to December 21, 2012 being the end of days. 
The Mayan calendar stops at December 21, 2012 - and the next thing you 
hear is...that this is the prediction for the end of the world. Yes, the 
Mayan calendar is very detailed and covers thousands of years - and for 
it to stop at 2012 suddenly, is taken to imply that it's the end.


What if the makers of the Mayan calendar decided that they do not want 
to go beyond 2012? That they were tired from the exercise of projecting 
the dates into the future of their own time which none of them will ever 
see, and also maybe their own belief that they have done enough and it 
is time to call it off. Secondly, that no civilisation after theirs may 
ever refer to their work, so it is a useless exercise of dwelling into 
the calendar of the future.


All doomsday prophecies should be taken with a barrelful of salt. 
Humanity is hardy - we've survived earthquakes, tsunamis, eruptions, 
pole tilts and atmos-pheric changes. Perhaps in the future the 
population count might be less - then the world might be a better place 
with less pressures and concerns.


The known history of humanity is that we have lived for millions of 
years. Certain civilisations talk of developments that we have yet to 
see in our present lifetime. It must be assumed that in these millions 
of years, certain parts of humanity that existed before us had surpassed 
many times what we know as our achievements and developments.


Studies now talk of Oneness or Singularity as possibilities of the 
future. The basic belief is that human consciousness is constant and the 
physical body is transient. What if the body itself is permanent as 
consciousness? Are we in a position to retain a physical body that is 
constant?


There are attempts by scientists to clear physical bodies of all 
age-related diseases. Why do we live only 80 to 100 years in a single 
physical lifetime? It is because the body cells generate till the age of 
20 and degenerate after the age of 20. What if this degeneration is 
arrested and we induce hormone balancing which regenerates cells after 
the age of 20?


This seems to be possible - now that we know that physical degeneration 
is due to aging and it involves telomeres which are found at the ends of 
chromosomes. Every time a cell divides, its telomeres get shorter, and 
once the cell runs out of telomeres, it can't reproduce anymore and 
dies. The enzyme called telomerase could reverse this process...and like 
magic...you could be forever young!


Science and spirituality could converge at some point - perhaps that's 
where we say goodbye to death and hello to immortality. Only time can 
tell...



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