Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
There is no way of reasonably confirming or excluding the harassment charge. No way of knowing who is/was upto what. Remember now ...not everybody who sad he as a Freedom Fighter can honestly state that he wasn't just another gunda or opportunist. Sure there were genuine ones but not all of them. So, I will learn from St Thomas - and not believe until I hear more independent verification. But, if what is alleged is true, it matters little if (a) They are secret or not (b) Whether other democracies have similar units or not If there is Harassment - then Gabriel is spot on. I would not necessarily ask o senhor Carambolim to turn up. Fontainhas has seen enough of vandalism, has it not? jc [3] Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com The CID in India ..is like the FBI in the United States and certain police units in Great Britain, France, and other democracies ...whoever called them the Secret Police obviously not only mislabelled them out of ignorance but also managed to confuse you, Gabriel. That is what I have to say. [2] Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. [1] Sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com wrote Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa .Police - CID
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
It woudl be good if Sebastian Rodrigues or someone come back/ provide this information. Hopefully this will test the resolve of concerned Goans in Goa and outside. venantius j pinto From: Ashley D'silva ashleyivordsi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Dear Goa' netters, It would help if all en- mass email the concerned police dept and its head, Goa CM and the Home Ministry, collector etc and swamp them with emails that will jam the whole line forcing them to take cognizance action against this harassment to Rama.
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Goanetters, It's a shame that Rama Velip of Colamb village is being harassed. Can Goanet do something for him. Ashley -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Venantius Pinto Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:27 PM To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Some thoughts. If it possible to get an OP, Order of Protection against the police. I mean has it ever been done. Besides emotional torture, what do midnight calls amount to? An ample opportunity for possible liquidation?! It also reminded me that almost no analysis has been done of anything related to mining and its various caveats, as sporadic missives from the fields appear on Goanet--by Goanetters. I could be wrong, but even if I could be, it still implies that unlike other issues this one needs a lot of processing before cogent or however incoherent thoughts make it into cyberspace. Also have not seen much by way of writers or essayists, however well meaning their toughts on matters and ills relating to society; aside from mining, with its pros and cons as it plays out in Goa. I am not talking here of journalists, or correspondents in the journalistic sense, nor of activists, or bloggers (who are not exactly slacking). I am talking of corespondence from writers, artists, poets, doctors, professionals, home-makers, and other as correspondents. Remember the word correspondent as it was used in the past. ++ The dessais--Phaldessais--sounds more like fruit parasites, who took a shine to ore. ++ venantius Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:03:18 +0530 From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. There are phone calls made at Rama Velip's residence at very odd hours in the night and ask him to report to Quepem Police Station. Rama Velip is heading Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Fedearation (GAKUVED) unit under the jurisdiction of Rivona Panchayat and in the middle of resistance movement against mining in Sanguem and Quepem Talukas of South Goa. CID officer who is involved in harassing Rama Velip is one Premanand Phaldessai attached to Quepem Police Station. He hails from Sanvordem and according to the sources his family members are involved in business of transportation of Iron Ore through ownership of trucks. _ Stay updated! Add Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace Hi5 friends to your Windows Live network instantly. Add Now! http://profile.live.com/webactivities/?mkt=en-in --
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
The CID in India,is like the FBI in the United States and certain police units in Great Britain, France, and other democracies. Its detectives work under cover, but whoever called them the Secret Police obviously not only mislabelled them out of ignorance but also managed to confuse you, Gabriel. That is what I have to say. Very best regards, and I hope some time soon we will meet again? I enjoyed my last meeting with you in Melbourne, not so long ago, when you were such a gracious host! --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Gabriel, I much regret that my reply to you went out unsigned, all because I mistakenly hit the tab key! Sorry about that. Regards, Victor --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Goa' netters, It would help if all en- mass email the concerned police dept and its head, Goa CM and the Home Ministry, collector etc and swamp them with emails that will jam the whole line forcing them to take cognizance action against this harassment to Rama. Some years back when some smart guy opened a restaurant and named it 'Hitler' in Kharghar- Navi Mumbai, the Jewish community from all over the world used this tactic and simply laid Mantralaya low forcing the C.M to immediately react in minutes - fall out was that they did not want a bad name and labeled as fascist. So therefore somebody get the details for their emails and put it up on the net and start acting rather than tossing mails around - let all the mails be directed to the Govt and the Governor. Best of luck to all, Ashley D'Silva -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Victor Rangel-Ribeiro Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:46 AM To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip The CID in India,is like the FBI in the United States and certain police units in Great Britain, France, and other democracies. Its detectives work under cover, but whoever called them the Secret Police obviously not only mislabelled them out of ignorance but also managed to confuse you, Gabriel. That is what I have to say. Very best regards, and I hope some time soon we will meet again? I enjoyed my last meeting with you in Melbourne, not so long ago, when you were such a gracious host! --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
