[Goanet] Bleeding airlines cut Goa flights

2008-08-17 Thread Philip Thomas
The huge growth in air travel to Goa and other destinations was due tolow
fares offered by airlines. Due to various reasons, the low fare erahas gone,
and so the air traffic has dropped. It is as straightforward asthat; nothing
more to read into it. regards,Samir 

Here is a report on changes in costs and fares. Airfares outpace fuel cost
hike
Anirban Chowdhury / New Delhi August 17, 2008, 4:58 IST
http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=331620
 An analysis of twelve sectors, including long and medium-haul sectors like
Delhi-Mumbai, Mumbai-Bangalore and Delhi-Ahmedabad and short-haul sectors
like Hyderabad-Bangalore, shows that while full-service carriers have
increased prices by 52-55 per cent during April and August, low-cost
carriers (LCC), led by Jet Lite, increased prices by anywhere between 75-85
per cent.

Fuel cost is only the tip of the iceberg. Indian aviation is not at all
energy efficient because of airspace restrictions due to military controls
and and airport restrictions such as at Dabolim. Fifty percent of Indian
airspace is restricted causing airlines to fly circuitous routes and there
are over 25 civil enclaves  which have slot restrictions causing congestion
and hovering of planes. The biggest of these (Hyderabad and Bangalore and
Kochi even earlier) have been shut inviting a high cost airport structure
in the country. Dabolim, Pune, Vizag and Agra are next in line aggravating
the whole matter. The need of the hour is for the government at all levels
to seriously attack the cost structure of aviation (due to defence, taxes,
AAI inefficiencies etc) to make low-cost no-frills aviation widespread in
India including Goa without compromising security and state finances.





[Goanet] OBITUARY: Sylvia Linda D'Mello - Mumbai / Kuwait

2008-08-17 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com




OBITUARY:
 
 
Sylvia Linda D'Mello (nee Rodrigues) (42), Mumbai /Kuwait


 

 
Sylvia D'Mello (nee Rodrigues) (42), wife of Lester D'Mello (Kuwait), mother of 
Leander  Lavender. Daughter of Elizabeth  the late Charles Rodrigues.  Sister 
of Janet/Lancy Vas (Saudi Arabia), Jacinta/Prem Menezes (Godrej-Patna)  
Sandra/Ivan Vaz (Muscat), passed away on 15.08.2008 in Mira Road, Mumbai.
 
Funeral cortege leaves residence 305/B Asmita Horizon, Next to Asmita Club, 
Naya Nagar, Mira Road East at 3.15 p.m. on 17.08.2008 for St. Joseph's Church, 
Mira Road East to be followed by burial at Mira/Bhayandar cemetery.
 
Phone: 9930607363 (Lester)
 
Eternal Peace grant Unto her Oh Lord.   
And let Perpetual Light shine Upon her.  
May her Soul Rest in Peace.
 
(CSC)





[Goanet] Amarnath and Mopa: What is the connection?

2008-08-17 Thread Philip Thomas
In today's HERALD. the column by Tomcat briefly heaped scorn on the link
made by Churchill Alemao between the Amarnath imbroglio in JK and the Mopa
airport project here in Goa. Alemao of course (well, off and on) wants Mopa
to be a nonstarter. So what is Amarnath all about? Here is a primer of sorts
in ET:
Cultural nationalism at work 14 Aug, 2008,  hrs IST,TK Arun, ET Bureau
Kashmir is raging against India. Jammu is raging against Kashmir. Two sets
of political formations are happy with all this rage. One set comprises the
separatists in Kashmir and Islamic fundamentalists who want all Muslims to
see themselves primarily as members of a religion under siege around the
world and only thereafter as normal human beings with worldly goals,
affinities and affiliations. The other political formation smacking its lips
at the communal wash spewing out from Jammu and Kashmir's turbulence is the
Sangh Parivar...What is the agitation in Jammu all about? The issue at stake
is not a few acres of land. Rather, at stake is a syncretic tradition of
Kashmir, of Muslims facilitating a Hindu pilgrimage. Pilgrimage, let us be
clear, is as much tourism as it is piety. Tourism is a modern-day
phenomenon, when material prosperity makes travel for pleasure seem an
entirely legitimate undertaking. In pre-industrial times when bare
subsistence was the norm for the bulk of the population, it was immoral, if
not impractical, for people to abandon their normal occupation of eking out
a living just to travel. But travel is in the human gene. Otherwise, Homo
Sapiens sapiens would not have moved out her home in Africa to spread out
over the expanse of the planet. So, travel people did, even those who could
barely make both ends meet, and justified it as pilgrimage, that is, travel
in pursuit of piety. Tourism generates jobs and incomes, whether the said
tourism is dressed up in sacred garb or unrobes to show off its hedonist
core. It is no different with the Amarnath yatra... The sangh parivar ...
seeks to rid Hinduism of traditional non-hostility to other faiths and
convert all non-Hindus into second class citizens, living in India on Hindu
forbearance. In Amarnath, Hindus and Muslims are mutually engaged, even in a
Hindu pilgrimage. This is abhorrent to the sangh parivar, as well as to
Islamic fundamentalists. Both kinds of exclusivists are inimical to the idea
of India as envisaged in our liberal democratic Constitution, a plural state
where people of different faiths can live together in harmony and dignity.
The violence in Jammu and Kashmir is a good sampling of what the BJP's
exclusionary goal holds in store for the country. It poses the biggest
threat to India's internal security and economic prosperity. 
Irreconcilable differences, tourism, livelihoods, economic betterment etc
etc. Anyone want to attempt a similar linkage between the opponents and
proponents of Mopa in Goa?




[Goanet] Anjuna 'Rebello Mansion'

2008-08-17 Thread Domnic Fernandes

Yes Rajan, that's the one.  Isn't it majestic?

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Gaumvaddy, Anjuna

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-Augustpost_id=079015

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[Goanet] Daily Grook #190

2008-08-17 Thread Francis Rodrigues

DAILY GROOK #190


GRAB STAB

by Francis Rodrigues


flying into dabolim
a goan gets the jabs,
the first to bite him
are the taxi crabs!


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puns  word-play of all kinds,
if you read between the lines!
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[Goanet] Local Goan Press

2008-08-17 Thread John Gomes
When Times Of India (TOI) was starting operations in Goa,our local Press
scared the readers with negative publicity like TOI would pursue the agenda
of builders, news for sale etc.Now we find TOI giving  more balanced and
better copy on local issues. The local dailies are trying to copy format
with page three news, instead of bettering the information on local issues.
Investigative journalism is too much trouble. Not to mention todays public
interest slant.Speaking to various letter writers, we have a common grouse
of editing/censoring our main points.This valuable source of feedback
appears to be treated with scant respect both by the Establishment and the
local dailies.
Just take one recent example:
Reference  Great Goan Illusion ( NT  12Aug), the whole expostulation could
be summarised as  All Five Fingers Are Not  The Same. However  the article
by no lesser person than the Editor,was trying to show the CM as mum who
cannot satisfy the childrens different menu requirements, who tell her how
to cut the Bhaji etc. Rebuff to goans and those protesting present state of
affairs in Goa! I sent a brief letter with reference ,stating that
uncles(MLAs and Vested Interests) are  busy trying to dispossess her and
also trying disowning the children from their assets. Children are already
deprived of  enough potable water, cooking infrastructure, cannot study/
access the internet and TV  due power failures etc.The children also sorely
miss their Papa!

Not one of my letters,however brief disagreeing/ holding a different view
from the Editorials/ newspaper expostulations have so far been published.If
this one was, I would have fired crackers  with joy that our Press has some
sense of humour, can take criticism, and are not biased! Thank God for the
Internet and Goanet.


Re: [Goanet] Freedom

2008-08-17 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- On Sat, 16/8/08, Albert Desouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Whether
 you buy a TV, micro wave one does not know what is the
 actual price for the dealer looks at you and your needs and
 also goan mentality and fires a price which normally is four
 times more that the price sold in Delhi. 

Don't know about microwaves or TVs, but Duracells in Delhi were 2 * cost of the 
same package obtained in Goa, last April. And in Agra? 3 * the cost - the 
printed price was craftily cut off or blacked out. 




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[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY CELEBRATIONS - 2oth of AUGUST -2008

2008-08-17 Thread renebarreto



Goemkars ! 



   

   WORLD GOA DAY-   20.8.2008 - WORLD KONKANI DAY
   =


On August 20, 1992, India's Parliament unanimously approved Konkani's inclusion 
into the
Indian  Constitution's 8th Schedule, fulfilling the prerequisite  for the 
granting of  Statehood to 
Goa. World Goa Day followed in 1999, when we decided to dedicate a day in the 
year to the 
celebration  of our Goan Cultural Heritage - a day when Goans worldwide, young 
and old, 
unitedly took pride in  every aspect of their beautiful culture - language, 
traditions, the 
performing  arts, cuisine etc. 

World Goa Day will celebrate its 10th next year!! The first World  Goa Day was 
held on   20 August 2000  - 20th of August is the official day for WORLD GOA 
DAY CELEBRATIONS,  but for practical  reasons,  the event is often held at a 
date close to this and most suitable for this unique  celebration.

This year festivities will be held in all five continents with thousand of 
Goans  participating 
across the  globe including India. World Goa Day is one of the biggest events 
in the calendar 
of the GLOBAL GOANS  and  many wait  for this great day where Goans pride in 
showing themselves, their children and others their  roots  and cultural  
heritage, a sure sign of our 
UNITY and our strength in our diversity and in our Goan  Diaspora. 

August 20 is  also a day where Goans, Goan institutions and  social 
organizations all over 
the Goan World  are planning activities.  This is a celebration in each Goan 
community 
across the world to  reinforce in us our  Goan heritage, echoing  what many 
Goans say 
I was born a Goan and will die a Goan. 

Over the years, we have learned much from non-Goans and improved ourselves in 
the 
process.  We have a  lot to offer the world and should not be ashamed of or shy 
away 
from our own glorious culture. We are  as gifted as any other people, and we 
should be 
willing to demonstrate that pride in our actions. Dreams  and ambitions take 
hold more 
quickly when shared with others. We hope that we have done so through the  
various 
organizations and e-groups we have established in the past few years.

We appeal to all Goans and Goan organizations participating in this great 
celebration to let us 
know their plans.  The information will enable us to compile a list of 
participants and details of these events will be posted on the   various GOAN 
Forums. If there are no plans to celebrate WORLD GOA DAY in your region, take 
the initiative  to organize  a program. Contact other GOANS or write to me - I 
will be glad to assist in your promotion of this  unique Goan event.  

Goan Basilio Magno from Spain wrote the theme song, Proud to be a Goan, 
especially for 
the First World Goa Day  on  August 20, 2000. His composition has become 
synonymous 
with World Goa Day celebrations. The lyrics and music  perfectly  express love 
for and 
solidarity  with our motherland, Goa. The many Goan Internet forums have 
stimulated the  understanding  Goans have of their unique heritage. The 
world-wide organizing and 
coordinating committees  will help  us achieve results.  We need each 
other.Giving and 
recieving are the basics of positive social relationships and healthy  
Communities. There are 
no limits to what we can achieve  together ! 

The theme of Giving back to Goa is a good way to inspire our Goan community 
to  do 
more for Goa and Goans worldwide.  Let WORLD GOA DAY  be a beacon of light and 
inspiration  throughout the year and for the rest of our lives. Let us make   
our motto:  
Proud To Be a Goan, live up to it and help make it a reality. 


We should celebrate WORLD GOA DAY in our hearts,  in our minds, our homes  and 
in
our Communities wherever they may be. Let us dwell on the Positives and no 
negatives 
will set  foot in our lives. The real wealth of any Society is its people. Each 
of us has 
valuable expirenece - to contribute to the well  being  of our  Commnity. 
Lets just do it!

We need to work together to promote WORLD GOA DAY within the wider Goan 
community, and encourage OUR GOAN COMMUNITIES  to celebrate Goa’s history, 
language, music,  cultural heritage and traditions.



 TOGETHER - we GOANS HAVE MADE IT HAPPEN !



rene barreto

Overall Coordinator, 
WORLD GOA DAY 
WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS
http://worldgoaday2008.blogspot.com/


=


This year - I 've invited the people of Daman - to establish 
   * WORLD DAMAN DAY *
to celebrate their CULURAL HERITAGE. They too will  celebrate their
CULTURAL HERITAGE  on the 20th of August under the guidance 
and leadership of  Noel Gama - in Daman - 
http://www.writersbureau.com/woy07/woy07.htm

You can view the WDD - site at
http://web.mac.com/noelgama/wdd08/World_Daman_Day.html


Re: [Goanet] The Political Party of My Dreams - Lambert Mascarenhas - NT Panorama - August 17, 2008

2008-08-17 Thread floriano
I got many phone calls  on the Sunday morning asking me if I have read the NT 
-Panorama.

Not yet - I said. What's the big deal?
Lambert Mascarenhas has re-invented the almost 9 years old wheel - read it 
they told me.

So I read.
And yes, it was the re-inventing of the wheel that was invented by Goa Su-Raj 
Party in the year 2000, late by (almost)  9 years.

'Ring Ring' ((0832) 2453759
 Hello Maam. Floriano Lobo here after a long time - How are you? May I have a 
word with Lambert?
Hi floriano, nice to hear your voice.  Just a minute .. Lambert! 
Floriano is on line. Will you pick up the phone?
'Floriano' 
'Lambert, man! I know you are very much well because I have read your excellent 
article in the NT- Panorama. Well done indeed.
'Aik re'  I had mentioned your name along with Dr. Francisco Colaco, Dr. Oscar 
Rebello. But they have not published.
'Lambert' you must grow up in you old age. Your beloved NT will never publish 
floriano's name for the reason that floriano  called its editor a dog on the 
Dempo's chain.

But floriano,  I have also sent the article to Goa Today. Hopefully Vinaik 
will publish the whole thing.

And you have missed sending it to the Goan Observer? 

Never mind that Lambert, but I am happy  that you have been busy re-inventing 
the wheel I handed to you in 2005. YOu have done well.
'Aik re' You must do the needful now of getting Goans together.

But Lambert, I have been trying to do just that  since the year 2000. I want 
you people,  who have had so much high hopes for  Liberated Goa,  to do things 
now. I am tired, really. Besides, I have so many other things to do, especially 
trying to put some food on my and my wife's plate in the evenings (atleast) 
which is becoming increasingly difficult with straight dealings.

BTW Lambert  when did you pick up the two booklets to go thro' them  which  I 
handed over to you,  prior to my contesting the Taleigao Elections in 2005? 
Must have been just sort of yesterday as what is reflected in your beautiful 
article is what is in those two booklets.

'Aik re'  Goa is sinking. You must do something.

Lambert ! 'You will never change !  Say 'we must do something'.  I want you, 
who liberated Goa and who were the first editor of NT to do something, NOW!
YOU HAVE STARTED WELL. ONLY KEEP IT UP.

'Sorry for keeping your dear wife waiting at the lunch table. But I needed to 
congratulate you for this mind-bogling realisation which must have detached 
from the backside of your brains and asserted itself through your pen. And to 
think of it that I considered you the 'GULAM' of the Congress Delhi High 
Command !

Cheers  God Bless






Re: [Goanet] Origin of word Tarvotti - help

2008-08-17 Thread Carvalho
Thanks everybody for the origin of the word. Fascinating stuff absolutely. I am 
correctly researching an article on Goan tarvottis.

thanks,
selma


--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Origin of word Tarvotti - help
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:05 PM
 To Goanet -
 
 Selma wrote:
 I'd like to know the actually meaning of the word
 tarvotti. 
 I am assuming it is two words, the genesis being
 tarv, 
 and the addition being otti.
 
 
 The word is an 'apabransha' of the Sanskrit word
 taranti,
 meaning boat.
 
 Related Sanskrit words are taraN and
 tAraN (where N
 denotes the hard 'n' which gets softened in
 Prakrit, and 'A'
 denotes the long 'a').
 
 En passant -
 taraN (taran) is also another word for boat, and tAraN
 (tAran)
 is the act of crossing (a river/ocean), often used as a 
 metaphor in Hindu spiritual traditions for the Lord's 
 deliverance.
 
 The name of Goa's Tari community is a cognate of these
 Sanskrit words.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 r


  


[Goanet] TBA condemns sabotage of Gram Sabha

2008-08-17 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes
*TBA condemns sabotage of Gram Sabha of Taleigao Village*

The Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan on behalf of the citizens of Taleigao expresses
its shock and moral outrage at the manner in which the Sarpanch of the
Village Panchayat of Taleigao made a mockery of the Gram Sabha of Taleigao
and did not allow genuine concerns of the villagers to be raised.

The TBA points out that the gram sabha held on the 17th of August was in
fact required by law to be conducted in the month of July. The TBA brought
this lapse to the attention of the BDO, subsequent to which the Panchayat
was directed to comply with the law by the BDO. This conforms to a pattern
where for at least the past three trimesters the gram sabha has not been
held as per schedule, but only after the direction by the BDO.

In light of experiences of citizens at the earlier Gram Sabha, that was
marked by verbal assault and intimidation, the TBA requested that the
Panchayat make provisions for police presence to enable peaceful conduct of
the Gram Sabha.  However, the Sarpanch, indicated in his opening remarks at
the Gram Sabha, that he did not feel the need for the same. He was almost
immediately proved wrong, by the presence of the same group of unruly
elements that have continuously heckled and disrupted the proceedings in
earlier Gram Sabhas. Owing to the absence of police, the Sarpanch was unable
to control these elements and used these disruptions as an excuse to
dissolve the meeting.

The TBA also points out that items submitted for discussion at the gram
sabha four working days prior to the same in conformity with the rules of
the Goa Panchayat Raj Act were not specifically included in the agenda for
the meeting as required by law. Instead, they were raised as per the
arbitrary discretion of the Sarpanch. The items submitted included the
discussion on action taken on the Gram Sabha's resolution to denotify the IT
Park, issues regarding the ODP, formation of ward committees in the village
as per directives from the Directorate of Panchayats, information regarding
road projects to be undertaken by the Panchayat.  The Sarpanch's
discretionary conduct ensured that he did not allow valid points to be
raised and dismissed these without hearing. Discussion, for instance, on
action taken regarding the Gram Sabha's demand for denotification on the IT
Park was summarily dismissed by him stating without substantiation that the
issue was sub-judice.

The Gram Sabha was eventually disrupted when a resolution seeking the repeal
of the amendments Section 16 and 16 A to the TCP Act were sought to be
passed. Given that there was no unanimity on the issue, it was demanded that
it be put to vote. At this point, the Sarpanch began what can only be
described as a complete mockery of regular voting procedures. Engaging in a
partisan counting exercise, the Sarpanch counted only those in favour of the
resolution opposing the amendments. Their numbers were also misrepresented.
He then proceeded to indicate that all those within the hall who had not
voted for, and those outside of the hall, were 'logically' against the
resolution. When points of order were sought to be raised, the unruly
elements stepped up their commotion, giving opportunity to the Sarpanch to
dissolve the meeting. Rather than reconvene the meeting subsequent to
calming down the situation with police assistance, as should have been done,
the Sarpanch remained adamant about dissolving the meeting. He, along with
the rest of the Panchas, left the premises after locking up the Panchayat
office within ten minutes of this occurrence. This left members of the Gram
Sabha in a vulnerable position where their lives and property were
threatened by the same unruly elements. In face of all the evidence, the TBA
asserts that this action of the Sarpanch and the unruly elements were part
of a pre-meditated strategy to sabotage the Gram Sabha and suppress the
genuine concerns regarding developments in the village. This suppression of
genuine concerns, the TBA points out, will only leave scope for vested
interests to hold the interests of the people of Taleigao to ransom.

The TBA condemns these pre-meditated attempts by the Panchayat to sabotage
the democratic processes of the Gram Sabha. It calls upon the Director of
Panchayats and the Government to take note of this murder of the democratic
process and initiate appropriate action forthwith.


s/d

s/d
Jason Keith
Fernandes
Shanti Almeida
(Convenor and Spokesperson)

(Secretary)

*Contact:  *Jason K. Fernandes +919764324074,

   Shanti Almeida+91-832-2453317



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[Goanet] Pravasi divas 2009

2008-08-17 Thread Eugene Correia
CHENNAI IS THE VENUE FOR PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS 2009  


 Parvasi Bharatiya Divas (PBD) is the annual flagship event of the Ministry of 
Overseas Indian Affairs (MOIA) which aims to connect more 25 Million Indians 
with India's Economic and Social development.  The Ministry is organizing 
Seventh edition of the PBD on 7-9 January, 2009 in Chennai, the South Indian 
city in Tamilnadu. The role of overseas Indians in the country's emergence as a 
global power will be the main theme. The event will be inaugurated by Prime 
Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pratibha Patil will address the 
concluding session of the three-day meet.

During the annual meet, the Diaspora's role in India's emergence as a global 
power will be the focus of deliberations. The congregation of Persons of Indian 
Origin (PIOs) and Non-Resident Indians (NRIs) will also dwell upon aspects like 
preservation of language and culture and health concerns of Indian Diaspora. 
Regional working sessions of the Diaspora residing in the Gulf, Asia-Pacific, 
Africa, USA, Europe, Caribbean and Canada will be organized.

A special trade and industry exhibition during the event with corporate, state 
governments, NGOs and financial institutions as participants will also be held 
as part of the convention, an official statement said.

Early this year, more than 1,500 participants from 50 countries had attended 
the PBD 2008 meet. 



  


Re: [Goanet] How Not To Organize a Goan Convention

2008-08-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Bosco D'Mello wrote:
 You have expressed your unhappiness a number of times (here on Goanet) re 
 the fact that 8 people were able to organize the 2008 International Goan 
 Convention. These 8 people delivered what WE agreed to do notwithstanding 
 the perpetual naysayers that are always found in our community.

Folks,
The following is for those who are still interested in holding Goan 
Conventions. 
I do not want to disclose who I am quoting and for this reason have X'd some 
words. 
 
Thanks for this info. Having played a major role in organizing a Goan
convention in XX, I am aware of all the squabbles that ensue
between competing personalities. My answer to such trivial nonsense is
do all the work that needs to be done, and let someone else take the
credit for doing it. Next time make people like XX and XX
emeritus co-presidents of the convention, with big garlanded pictures
of them on the website. Please don't lose heart.
 
 
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Re: [Goanet] The rot that threatens Religion I II- OPinionatED - By: Nazar Da Silva - H - 6/7- Aug- 2008- Comments

2008-08-17 Thread floriano
Those who have gone through these two pieces must be rather confused to 
understand what the writer wanted to say. Yes, he has made his point, but by 
taking a very long route. I want to simplify those two pieces in a few lines.

1. Religious or no religious, when people pay the voters Rs. 500 notes to vote 
for them in the panchayat elections, then the end results are transparent. At 
least one of the panch member Nazar is talking about has done what is mentioned 
above. Going to Church and getting involved in Church related activities is 
just a front for bigger things to come. Public acceptance.

2. Jesus had his last supper like any ordinary man would have when he knew his 
end was coming nigh. He washed the feet of his friends and shared the bread and 
wine with them with a difference. What he told them was  Here is the cup of 
wine I am raising in a toast for this last meal. To your health and resilience. 
You see, this bread is like my flesh which will be torn apart come tomorrow and 
this cup of wine is like my blood that will be spilled in the bargain. But do 
not be afread to shed your flesh or spill your blood for TRUTH. You have an 
example in me.

What Nazar wants to say is that today's panch members of the panchayats will 
even sell Jesus Christ in the open market for some under the table 
gratification.

For my good friend of Peaceful Society shri. Soter D'Souza, I like to pose this 
question.

Tell me, out of 189 panchayats in Goa, how many Sarpanches he can vouch for,  
who will not deal in illegalities and whether any one sarpanch,  if he/she 
exists who does  not tolerate illegalities will survive in office for more than 
3 months.

Therefore, if as the Director of Peaceful Society's Panchayati Raj, Soter must 
work towards these two things, if his Society wants to stay peaceful at all and 
not be tormented.

 (1) Do away with No Confidence Motions in the Panchayat Act. 

(2) Put adequate fool-proof sections  that will send the  Sarpanch and the 
Secretary  behind bars for any illegality.

If this is done, rest assured, the whole of Goa will be peaceful and not only 
the blisfully peaceful  spread  at Kundaim.

floriano
goasuraj


Re: [Goanet] notes from goan convention

2008-08-17 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Lisette,
 
At the outset let me thank you and the other committee members for the yeomen 
task of holding the recent Goan convention in Toronto. I think you should be 
proud of yourselves for being part of the effort. Two decades from now, as one 
reviews the Goan history in Canada, your names will certainly be mentioned. 
 
To me the issue is: Two decades from now will someone be writing well about 
Goans in Canada (and North America); as a positive successful community? Or 
will it be a history of a community that will be lamented for lack of growth, 
divisiveness and petty mindedness?  As individuals we likely will be doing 
pretty well.
 
One of the crux is as you put: Should this be a convention for 100 people, even 
as the Toronto population (alone) is in excess of 20,000? I view this 
convention to serve the Goan community of North America; just as the Bengali 
convention in downtown Toronto, held a few weeks earlier, served their 
community, with 6,000+ attendees,  paying a registration fee of hundred dollars 
($100:00), compared to the Goan registration of two hundred and fifty.  I think 
this is a take home message to all organizers. 
See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Bengali_Conference
 
If the Goan convention got the attendance you planned for, your beef is not 
with Eugene; but with those who complained about the poor attendance.  Please 
do not spin the attendance numbers.  I heard at a recent medical presentation, 
One can come to any conclusion, if one beats the data hard enough.
 
I think the above are fundamental issues of Goan conventions that we should be 
engaged in dialog, instead of the mudslinging that some view is occurring. I do 
not see much mudslinging, but I am not on the committee, and I do not read all 
the posts.  By the same token as a committee member you and others should not 
take it personally any discussion / post-mortem on the convention. In that 
case, we should end goanet because we are always writing on issues that may be 
perceived as negative to someone or an institution.
 
Eugene's posts and others on Goanet on this thread that I have read (I do not 
read all), is nothing compared to nasty posts we  see on other topics, written 
by several individuals who serve on and defend your committee.  I hope you can 
be an active participant on Goanet. Then you can attack these people who write 
vicious and 'near inappropriate' posts (since it passes the moderators), 
where personal attacks are made on individuals and institutions. Your reproach 
with a 'velvet glove' will moderate a few - some of whom are your admirers, as 
seen from their recent posts.  Do you not think we should apply the same 
standards and yard-stick?
 
Perhaps a good topic for the next Goan convention is reviewing the art of 
communication on Goanet with regard and respect; and focusing on the idea / 
topic; rather than the individual.  This would be an excellent topic at any 
forum, and one specially organized by GNAT..
 
My next topic of dialog on Goanet is It is not so regarding a heavily 
discussed past topic.  I will rely on a book which I have just completed 
reading - Cracking Da Vinci's Code - You have read the fiction, now read the 
facts.  Likely you will enjoy this topic. It may help you as 
you encounter 'the fictional facts' about the Catholic Church.:=))
 
Kind regards, GL. 
PS: To those who likely will object to :=)), it reflects the oxymoron ... like 
'happy marriage'.:=))  
 
 
 LISETTE SALDANHA 
 
The academic portion of the convention was planned for 100-120 people as was 
evident in the venues we used. It would have been impossible to achieve the 
level of interaction and intimacy the convention provided if we had 
larger groups. Quite frankly I cannot imagine any room that could have housed 
10,000 people for an effective presentation even 20 years ago.  Should the next 
Convention's goals be to have a much larger crowd, than their organizational 
plans and goals will have to be different from the Toronto group.We had a 
100-110 people, 80 were paid registrants and the rest were volunteers, 
observers, presenters.





[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Exploring India's Prosperity Through the Eyes of the Invisible Men

2008-08-17 Thread rubygoes
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Shameful how domestic help is paid and treated. Modern day slavery spins me out 
each time every time. Shouldn't these employers do better? rubygoes


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Memo From Mumbai: Exploring India's Prosperity Through the Eyes of the 
Invisible Men
By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
India may be changing at a disorienting pace, but one thing remains stubbornly 
the same: a tendency to treat the hired help like chattel.

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1030 - How not to organize a Goan convention

2008-08-17 Thread Filomena Giese
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:24:32 -0400
 From: Roland Francis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Goanet] How Not To Organize a Goan Convention

Roland writes:
 
 Get some attendees to pretend it was a huge success so that
 the same mistakes are repeated.

Roland,
Spare us your jaundiced comments about the inner workings of the organization 
of the Toronto convention!  It is bad enough to read the jaundiced views of 
Eugene which some prominent members on Goanet seem to give a lot of credence 
to.  

1.  If you were a member of the committee at any point, you should have kept 
the proceedings confidential - or, haven't you heard of the duty of 
confidentiality of committee members?
2.  As I wrote 2 reports on the Toronto convention, both of which appeared on 
Goanet, I can say that noone got me to write them, especially as a pretense!   
I seriously doubt that anyone reading Maria, Cornel, Acaria's accounts and 
opinions can say that they were asked to do their reports  or to write them as 
a pretense.  They did not leave out criticism or suggestions for improvement - 
Noone of us said that the convention was a huge success. But we felt that 
there were elements of it like the presentations on Goan issues, some of the 
workshops, and the social events that were successful and thoroughly enjoyable. 
 What's wrong with that?
3.  Some of us who were actually there  wish that you nay-sayers would get over 
whatever's bothering you (a hangover perhaps or acid reflux?) and get to work 
on some constructive action and projects for Goa and the Goan community.  At 
the very least, let those of us who took something positive away from the 
convention enjoy the moment and the memories! 

Viva Goa!  Viva Toronto!
Filomena





  


[Goanet] REVIEW: There's Something About Mario (by E P Unny)

2008-08-17 Thread Goanet News
E P Unny

Posted online: Sunday, August 17, 2008 at 1500 hrs

Mario de Miranda
Compiled by gerard da cunha
Architecture Autonomous, Rs 2,700

Mario Miranda's carnival of comedy has travelled to every nook and
naughty corner of the world

This book makes you do the unthinkable: thank Vasco da Gama for
setting foot on Indian soil. And his successor Albuquerque for
shifting Portugal's Asian capital from Kochi to Goa. Lisbon's men gave
Mario Miranda a great place to grow up and outgrow. They packed into
the 16th century Konkan land every sign of a European conquest.
Prelates and proctors to tailcoats and trousseaus. Seasoned by the
West Coast sun through some 400 years, this was the landscape that
greeted the six-year-old when dad, Daman's administrador, retired and
the family moved back to the ancestral home in Loutolim. The house
itself, then over 250 years old with 30-odd rooms, was a world to
explore. A Eurasian galaxy was waiting outside.

The boy loved the wicked pencil. He began a diary of doodles that grew
into sketches, portraits, caricatures and cartoons. A spread of visual
parody the European Empire builder hadn't bargained for. A spread that
marks Mario out as our only outdoor cartoonist — a comic artist more
than a cartoonist. One who learned firsthand from what he saw around
him. Not from the printed cartoons of venerable seniors as is
customary. An early influence of Ronald Searle the master himself
talked him out of. The acolyte was told to go and find his signature
tune. He did and how! Goa gave him enough to look at and a challenge
few deadline-dreading cartoonists would touch. To include rather than
exclude. Mario is so inclusive that when you step into a café with his
wall-scale mural, the comic frame grabs you. Grin like Godbole and
bear it.

Meticulous detailing of architectural nuances, the irresistible
impulse to ink in windswept clotheslines to that odd cat on a bar
stool, the graphic wit to convert an accidental drop of black ink into
a crow in flight. All of this goes into the Mario backdrop against
which is set a carnival of comedy. Dogs jumping out of the frame, men
up to no good and women in all shapes and sizes -- unlike Don
Martin's, the maddest of Mad magazine's madmen, whose overweight
women, editors feared, would crash through the page.

This tropicalised Euro idiom travelled as easily as the Miranda
couple. To every nook and naughty corner of the world. His hosts
apart, we have his editors to thank for. Had they slotted him as a
news cartoonist, he would have been reduced to a doodling Dilbert, a
cardboard cubicle creature. The political cartoon was never close to
his heart. A comic strip must have been a close enough trap. (No
dearth of characters -- Fonseca, Bundeldass, Nimboopani….) That would
have left him with no leisure either. With a weekday business cartoon
and a weekend display, a soft take on the politico, he winds up his
journalistic work and turns to what he does best. Create pure fun on
paper.

Fun that is largely visual, but not entirely. The boy who chose to
draw his diary rather than write it isn't text-averse. He christens
his characters with easy wordplay and his caption doesn't stare you in
the face. It speaks. This is remarkable because there was nothing
English about his upbringing. Mario is an Italian name; grandma loved
Italian operas. His first language was Portuguese; ancestors had
converted to Roman Catholicism in the early days of occupied Goa. He
didn't know a word of English till he joined St. Joseph's School in
Bangalore. Late-learning worked. As well as it did for Cartoonist
Vicky who fled his home in Hungary to land tongue-tied in, of all
places, the World War II Fleet Street, where he was soon a rave for
his very English humour.

A fine array of writers has written for this book -- Manohar
Malgonkar, Nissim Ezekiel, Vinod Mehta and Ranjit Hoskote. The sole
miss is a peer review. Where are the social cartooning peers? There
isn't even a weak clone around. Despite a tradition, one of the best
outside the West, our cartooning is almost wholly news-driven. In any
case, no Mario successor can emerge from newspapers that stampsize or
bury the cartoon. Comics and animation industries could spring a
surprise.

Meanwhile, let's have more of Mario. He is still young. How young, if
I mention, he'll kill me. Buy the book and find out.


[Goanet] Goa news for August 18, 2008

2008-08-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa to Have Tourist Guides Soon - Daijiworld.com
[11 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Next time, when you visit goa,
you will have ample well informed tourist guides who will give
you accurate information about the place along ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=49932n_tit=Goa+to+Have+Tourist+Guides+Sooncid=1237656340ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNFSZwSIY_Lt9TR3x9LHYrCc1e2CCQ

*** Goa Assembly session begins amid differences within govt. -
Hindu
[10 hours ago]  Panaji (PTI): The crucial two-week long Goa
legislative assembly session began here on Sunday amidst
simmering differences within the ruling coalition. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200808171863.htmcid=1237137831ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNFvmR-7uPDaCRIZT04R6ib_u_Mxiw

*** Bleeding airlines cut Goa flights - Times of India
[Aug 15, 2008]  Fewer domestic travellers areflying into or out
of Goa. And with travellers looking for alternative modes of
travel, airlines have been forced to cut down ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Bleeding_airlines_cut_Goa_flights/articleshow/3369928.cmscid=1237566174ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNFLSk5mm2FHpgQXSHjRbF1_VPuCfQ

*** Goa Assembly Session to be Shown Live - Daijiworld.com
[20 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Goa's news channel Prudent
Media is creating history in Goa. The TV channel would telecast
the forthcoming Assembly session live, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=49924n_tit=Goa+Assembly+Session+to+be+Shown+Livecid=1237566202ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNHAA7Yirmw-GOwhToezgWIM_5BEJA

*** Goa committed to fight against HIV/AIDS: Kamat - Zee News
[6 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Goa Chief Minister Digamber
Kamat on Sunday reiterated the state's committment to put up a
fight against HIV/AIDS. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=462754sid=REGcid=1237756967ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNF5xkCEXxlPIZ_p54Z0spUpMShLYA

*** Goa\'s monsoon tourism a huge hit among domestic tourists -
Economic Times
[17 hours ago]  Goa's beaches remains flooded with the
tourists, even though visiting the coastal state during wet
spell was the idea initially disagreed by them. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Goas_monsoon_tourism_a_huge_hit_among_domestic_tourists/articleshow/3373091.cmscid=1237584315ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNEaGZUsbLiBeyjSoCFRd1fdbIGpsA

*** Many histories - Hindu
[Aug 16, 2008]  We tend to think of Goa as a quaint
Mediterranean outpost transported, by a quirk of history, to the
shores of the Arabian Sea. This is erroneous, since Goa ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/mag/2008/08/17/stories/2008081750030100.htmcid=0ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNHStMS3t_Y-Patpwv59Z4lAvIvTAQ

*** Locating Goa - Hindu
[Aug 16, 2008]  For English-speaking Indians unfamiliar with
Goa, this little colonial anachronism seems as quaint as we
ourselves must appear to historically ignorant ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/mag/2008/08/17/stories/2008081750040100.htmcid=0ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNGMEQ0j2nCotR67MAMbCzvFDTUpDw

*** SEZ issue to dominate Goa Assembly session - Economic Times
[Aug 15, 2008]  PANAJI: The issue of special economic zones is
set to dominate the Goa state assemblys 10-day session beginning
Monday. The SEZs have been haunting ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/SEZ_issue_to_dominate_Goa_Assembly_session/articleshow/3369487.cmscid=0ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNEo-uSoP29hbFIVMkXO9jEAGEbhnQ

*** New fishing season launched in Goa - Times of India
[20 hours ago]  PANAJI: While the ban on fishing as per the
court order ended on [July 31, 2008]  , the commencement of the
fishing season traditionally was launched on ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/New_fishing_season_launched_in_Goa/articleshow/3372273.cmscid=0ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNEBej_iZrIdlXw8s74cfnfcp3u4ww


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] COMMENT: Look in the Mirror, Mr Gupta (by Venita Coelho)

2008-08-17 Thread george Menezes

Just a line to say how much I appreciate Goanet News
I am kept in touch with the more important happenings in Goa my fatherland 
that I  love dearly


George Menezes 



[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY 2008 MESSAGE FROM AUSTRALIA.

2008-08-17 Thread Oscar Lobo

WORLD GOA DAY 2008 MESSAGE  FROM AUSTRALIA.

We, the Goans of Australia, send a message of solidarity and friendship to 
all our fellow Goans all over the world as we celebrate World Goa Day during 
July and August 2008 in the various major cities of Australia .


This year our twin theme is the Proud villages of Goa and our Youth 
which has so well coincided with the just concluded World Youth day in 
Sydney !   We were also privileged to have our very own priest from Goa who 
celebrated a mass on World Goa Day in Sydney during July 2008.  The priest 
later visited Melbourne en-route to Goa and the group of Goans associated 
with Melgoans i.e. families of Salus Correia, Newton Marques and Oscar Lobo 
spent the day with the priest and gave him a tour of Melbourne.


The various village associations in Australia are the backbone of the 
mainstream Goan organisation and the youth are our future and the flag 
bearers of our rich and unique cultural heritage. Goans in Australia are 
looking forward to working closely  with organizations that would uphold and 
maintain our Goan identity, culture and values which have been embedded for 
over 4.5 centuries.


We have always felt that World Goa Day be celebrated by designating a day 
specifically for Goans to reflect on our Goan identity and to consider what 
being a Goan means to us as well as to take pride in being Goan and to unite 
with Goans all over the world, in solidarity, to celebrate Goa's history, 
konkani language, music, cultural heritage and traditions. In Melbourne we 
have been celebrating WGD for the last 6 years and for the last 3 years in 
Sydney.


Sydney celebrated WGD on 27th July and Melbourne Goans - Melgoans, will be 
doing the same on 23th August.


This will be followed by celebrations in Brisbane and Perth.

Let us all join in to celebrate World Goa Day and work together for a caring 
and sharing Goan community worldwide.



Tony Colaco - World Goa Day Overall Coordinator - Sydney  www.goansw.com
Oscar C. Lobo - World Goa Day Overall Corordinator - Melbourne - 
www.melgoans.com





Re: [Goanet] Do you know who I am?

2008-08-17 Thread Alfred de Tavares

All my hats...topiis...or, what ever my scalp boasts, off to you!

Had you told that poor sore pestered de Das e Gouda cheese that 
you were the most famous laugh-maker he might have floored you

with his inimitable, Saar, are you Art Buchwald...?

Chacha, bursting from cruelly inflicted laughter...


Re: [Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)

2008-08-17 Thread Angela Braganza

Hi Remo! that was really good, we are Goans.

angela


Re: [Goanet] Why did Oscar, Patricia and Ritu resign? (Herald)

2008-08-17 Thread michael iglesias
Let's not question why, how , for what, when, but, if's , we now need to 
have the fight move on and come up with a strategy on which way to go from 
here. 



[Goanet] Bleeding airlines cut Goa flight

2008-08-17 Thread edward desilva
Rajan said:
Anything and everything to keep Indians
away from Goa should be encouraged.
---
No point in keeping the high flying Indians away from Goa.
It is the walking poor who come by Trains and Coaches without ticket and sleep 
and shit on the streets, who are the headache.
How to keep them out is the problem.
ED.


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Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles

2008-08-17 Thread Fr. Ivo C da Souza

From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


**In the case of Eucharistic miracle of Lanciano, how can
you perform this scientific procedure?


So after all this talk about using a scientific procedure to certify
miracles, we have a concession that such a procedure cannot be performed
in this case.

***This procedure is not the only one. Physicians have used another
scientific method, as I have mentioned by quoting their news. This method is
valid in this case.


--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

***I would be for a natural effect of placebo. But is it a placebo
effect in those cases which have been documented after long and intense
research by the International Medical Panel?

As far as science is concerned, the panel has clearly never done anything 
to rule

out simple explanations such as the placebo effect and spontaneous
remissions.

***Do those scientists agree with you?


An embarrassing example from the 60's makes this amply clear.
On the recommendation of the people voting for the majority in the
international medical panel meeting, a woman with a condition called
Budd-Chiari syndrome was certified to have been miraculously cured from
that disease in 1963. A few years later, as expected, the miracle ended
like all other such hoaxes. The miraculously cured woman died from the
same disease.

***This case is not found in the dossier of 68 miracles. Where did you find
it? Are all miracles such hoaxes? Or do you accept exceptions?


As one Vatican official now concedes:

What seems like a miracle now may not be one in a hundred years. Such are
the advances of science. Declarations of miracles are not infallible
teachings.

***Who has said this? Advances of science have a limit. Miracles are signs
of God's love. They confirm our faith.They are based on prudence and human 
faith.
Can all the miracles from hundred years ago be declared as feasible today 
through modern medicine?
Do you accept that there are infallible teachings of the Church? What is the 
foundation of these teachings?

The Church teaches the possibility of miracles.
Christianity is a historical religion, and therefore accepts God's action in 
history.



If there is any doubt about the futility of this miracle-mongering
nonsense, the above candid admission should dispel it.

***Does it do away with the faith of the Church in miracles? Most of us do
not experience such miracles. Yet we believe because of the evidence that is
offered to us. Are all those who believe in miracles credulous and ignorant?
Regards.
Fr.Ivo




[Goanet] TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE ALL ROADS LEAD TO MAPUSA MUNICIPAL COUNCIL - CAMARA AT 4.00 P.M.

2008-08-17 Thread floriano
ITS TODAY, 18TH AUGUST, 2008 AT 4.00 P.M. WHEN MAPUSA NAGRIKANCHO EKVOTT { 
CITZENS' [OF GOA] INITIATIVE -III } WILL HAND-OVER THE 'CITIZEN'S CHARTER OF 
DEMANDS' - SIGNED BY THOUSANDS OF CONCERNED CITIZENS  OF MAPUSA AND 
SURROUNDING AREAS - OVER THE LACK OF UP-KEEP OF MAPUSA TOWN AND THE MAPUSA 
MUNICIPAL MARKET -  AT THE HANDS OF ADV. ANTONIO J.B. LOBO - CONVENOR. THE 
CONVENOR WILL LATER BRIEFLY  ADDRESS THE CITZENS FROM THE ENTRANCE STEPS OF 
THE  COUNCIL BUILDING.


YOUR BRIEF PRESENCE WILL GIVE BOOST TO THE SOLIDARITY WITH THE CITZENS' 
INITIATIVE


CI 



[Goanet] Goan friend earn A-levels

2008-08-17 Thread Bernado Colaco
Hi Cornel,

With a ghanti passport our Goan friends would still be at Heathrow airport 
trying to get an entry into the UK. Therefore with Portuguese citzenship not 
only for these Goans (A-levels), but all the strata, from bramanekas, to mars 
and chamar to sudrekas has been a boon. Your claim to be a dotor but it clearly 
looks by your writings that you are a fator!
BC


Hi Bernardo
Just curious! How does Portuguese citizenship have
anything to do with A level results? I have been an
A-level examiner for years and nationality simply does
not feature in them. But you may know something I
don't and it would be enlightening if you illuminated
this matter please!
Cornel

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Re: [Goanet] COMMENT: Look in the Mirror, Mr Gupta (by Venita Coelho)

2008-08-17 Thread Pereira, Edwin

Hi Venita,

Very good analysis of Mr.Gupta's column. I regularly receive and read
goanet articles. Keep up your good work.

Cheers from distant NZ.

Edwin Pereira
adidas NZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)

2008-08-17 Thread pinto henry

Hi All Goans
I fully agree with remo and i so feel the same when
passing by the goan airport.
No goan police,Nobody speaking Konkani etc
In kerala or other states if you dont speak the local
language you cannot work etc
why in Goa all this happens.WE ALL KNOW WHO TO BLAME,I
will always support and my support is with you Remo.
Long live goa and goans
Henry Pinto


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[Goanet] Where have the Toronto Goans gone? (Victor Rangel-Ribeiro in Times of India, Panjim)

2008-08-17 Thread Lawrence D'souza
Tell this guy that the goans new that there is no gossiping in there so they 
were not interested.
its common goans always have more then 80% no show any were. if they were 
invited by non goans then you should see the crowd for support.


Tell this guy not to take heart feelings

Thanks




Re: [Goanet] Goan selling houses

2008-08-17 Thread lenny dsouza

Hello Albert,

I have been following this debate for a long time, what you said is 100% 
right, there are people who preach. In todays date to repair an old house is 
really hard, you just try to even repair the roof, firstly you cannot find 
people, if you find the people the cash is the problem.


We in goa are now getting use to staying in small rooms, where each one has 
his own privacy, those days are gone where you had one radio and the whole 
house had to listen to the same, today, every one wants his own space. The 
families in Goa are too shrinking, its no more 5 kids house it come down to 
1 or 2 max 3.


Maintaining these houses can take dig a big hole in your pockets, and then 
in todays world, kids want to seperate and have their own.


The best prices in todays times is offered by non-catholics, I think if they 
dont sell it at the right price then its stupidity.


there was another post saying that one should wait for the property to rise, 
but that person did not say how long, let me tell you that property prices 
have never come down, if you have sold something today for 80 lacs, then 
after 5 years the same place will be sold for 100 lac any way. My advice to 
all is that if you think the price is right for you go ahead and sell, 
because the cash to in hand means that you can buy something else, day by 
day the power of buy with a rupee is decreasing.


Its time we live peacefully and not bother if our neighbour is catholic or 
not as long as he is living peacefully in his house. Catholic and non 
catholic have lived in harmony for over hundred years in goa, why are we 
today pointing fingers at them, was the state of goa, not hindu, before the 
portuguese came, and was there no mogul raj on it, my request to all goans 
is just dont try to dig graves, as there are many skeletons there, which 
will only escalate things.


Lenny 



Re: [Goanet] Take a look...

2008-08-17 Thread Roland Francis
Santosh wrote:
Leaving the anger management issue aside, it is really amazing that
Rajan knows so much about so many things in which he has never been
interrogated by a committee of experts -  zooming his camera in and
out on the identities of insiders and outsiders, etc. And all this
without reading, looking at graphs and tables or doing a single google
search.

Dear Santosh,
From the above paragraph, it looks like you are expecting readers to
think along the lines of:

A) I have been interrogated by a panel of experts while Rajan has not.

B) Reading and looking at graphs and tables is much better than
zooming cameras on real life, recording scenes and events as they
unfold.

Here's some news for you. Angry or not, one Rajan on Goa's ground is
worth a thousand Santoshes looking at outdated Goldman Sachs reports
while sitting in the USA.

Unimpressed by Goldman Sachs,
Roland.


[Goanet] Dev Borem Korun

2008-08-17 Thread Antonio Menezes
A ''thank you ''is expressed at the end of a favour done  and it vaguely
expresses
further the idea that  a recipient of a favour   somehow owes something in
future.
On the other hand a ''Dev Borem Konun'' means 'let God bless you'' for a
favour
done but there is no hint of a quid pro quo in it.

It is possible that a priest after enjoying a meal of rice, prawn
curry,fried fish
with a copito or two of feni in one of his parishioners house, may have
expressed
his gratitude by saying ''Tumkam Devan borem konun'' which Goan catholics
incorporated in their day to day language as 'Dev Borem Korun'' literally a
God Bless.

Antonio


Re: [Goanet] Origin of word Tarvotti - help

2008-08-17 Thread jose fernandes
Hi Selma,
The word 'tarvotti' mean seamam or sailer. In Konknni, Tarum' means 'ship',
and the person who works on the tarum 'ship' is 'tarvotti.' The word
'tarvotti' has nothing do with the words of any othe language.
With luv,
Salvador


On 8/15/08, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone help me, perhaps Ven'u, who is good at these things.

 I'd like to know the actually meaning of the word tarvotti. I am assuming
 it is two words, the genesis being tarv, and the addition being otti.

 So if possible, what is the word tarv, is a Portugeuse word absorbed by
 our language, or does it have a Konkani origin.

 Any help appreciated.

 selma






[Goanet-News] Goa news for August 18, 2008

2008-08-17 Thread Goanet News Service
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*** Goa to Have Tourist Guides Soon - Daijiworld.com
[11 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Next time, when you visit goa,
you will have ample well informed tourist guides who will give
you accurate information about the place along ...
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*** Goa Assembly session begins amid differences within govt. -
Hindu
[10 hours ago]  Panaji (PTI): The crucial two-week long Goa
legislative assembly session began here on Sunday amidst
simmering differences within the ruling coalition. ...
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*** Bleeding airlines cut Goa flights - Times of India
[Aug 15, 2008]  Fewer domestic travellers areflying into or out
of Goa. And with travellers looking for alternative modes of
travel, airlines have been forced to cut down ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Bleeding_airlines_cut_Goa_flights/articleshow/3369928.cmscid=1237566174ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNFLSk5mm2FHpgQXSHjRbF1_VPuCfQ

*** Goa Assembly Session to be Shown Live - Daijiworld.com
[20 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Goa's news channel Prudent
Media is creating history in Goa. The TV channel would telecast
the forthcoming Assembly session live, ...
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*** Goa committed to fight against HIV/AIDS: Kamat - Zee News
[6 hours ago]  Panaji, Aug 17: Goa Chief Minister Digamber
Kamat on Sunday reiterated the state's committment to put up a
fight against HIV/AIDS. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=462754sid=REGcid=1237756967ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNF5xkCEXxlPIZ_p54Z0spUpMShLYA

*** Goa\'s monsoon tourism a huge hit among domestic tourists -
Economic Times
[17 hours ago]  Goa's beaches remains flooded with the
tourists, even though visiting the coastal state during wet
spell was the idea initially disagreed by them. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Goas_monsoon_tourism_a_huge_hit_among_domestic_tourists/articleshow/3373091.cmscid=1237584315ei=cLSoSJSlFJP6lQTDqJ22Dgusg=AFQjCNEaGZUsbLiBeyjSoCFRd1fdbIGpsA

*** Many histories - Hindu
[Aug 16, 2008]  We tend to think of Goa as a quaint
Mediterranean outpost transported, by a quirk of history, to the
shores of the Arabian Sea. This is erroneous, since Goa ...
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*** Locating Goa - Hindu
[Aug 16, 2008]  For English-speaking Indians unfamiliar with
Goa, this little colonial anachronism seems as quaint as we
ourselves must appear to historically ignorant ...
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*** SEZ issue to dominate Goa Assembly session - Economic Times
[Aug 15, 2008]  PANAJI: The issue of special economic zones is
set to dominate the Goa state assemblys 10-day session beginning
Monday. The SEZs have been haunting ...
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*** New fishing season launched in Goa - Times of India
[20 hours ago]  PANAJI: While the ban on fishing as per the
court order ended on [July 31, 2008]  , the commencement of the
fishing season traditionally was launched on ...
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