Re: [google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-25 Thread Chad Vincent 
It's why you don't put any significant payload in the Task.  You put it in 
a Datastore entity and use the key as the payload.

Or if you really don't care if it fails, put it in Memcache and use the key 
as the payload.

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 5:33:06 PM UTC-5, barryhunter wrote:
>
> Possibly no real advantage, just an alternative :)
>
> I suppose, there is a small risk of exceeding the Task Queue storage free 
> quota, but seems unlikely. 
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 22:59, 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine <
> google-a...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Not sure what advantage you'd envision for XMPP here -- this kind of job 
>> (handing out a task to a worker) is exactly what task queues were designed 
>> for.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Barry Hunter > > wrote:
>>
>>> Or maybe even use XMPP, to 'chat' with itself. 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/xmpp/
>>>
>>> The front end just sends a chat message. 
>>>
>>> The backend worker subscribes to the channel, and performs the POSTs
>>>
>>> On 24 May 2016 at 22:44, Barry Hunter >> > wrote:
>>>
 Maybe you could use the Task Queue? inserts should generally by quick. 

 Then a 'worker' can process tasks in background - performing the actual 
 POSTs 

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 wrote:

> In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to 
> wait for the response, the call should be as quick and 
> cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send 
> a 
> message to another server.  I don't mind if I lose messages.
> Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?
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Re: [google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-24 Thread Barry Hunter 
Possibly no real advantage, just an alternative :)

I suppose, there is a small risk of exceeding the Task Queue storage free
quota, but seems unlikely.

On 24 May 2016 at 22:59, 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine <
google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Not sure what advantage you'd envision for XMPP here -- this kind of job
> (handing out a task to a worker) is exactly what task queues were designed
> for.
>
> Alex
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Barry Hunter 
> wrote:
>
>> Or maybe even use XMPP, to 'chat' with itself.
>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/xmpp/
>>
>> The front end just sends a chat message.
>>
>> The backend worker subscribes to the channel, and performs the POSTs
>>
>> On 24 May 2016 at 22:44, Barry Hunter  wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you could use the Task Queue? inserts should generally by quick.
>>>
>>> Then a 'worker' can process tasks in background - performing the actual
>>> POSTs
>>>
>>> On 24 May 2016 at 09:17, Ashley Finney <2dea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to wait
 for the response, the call should be as quick and
 cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send a
 message to another server.  I don't mind if I lose messages.
 Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?

 Many thanks.

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Re: [google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-24 Thread 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine 
Not sure what advantage you'd envision for XMPP here -- this kind of job
(handing out a task to a worker) is exactly what task queues were designed
for.

Alex

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Barry Hunter 
wrote:

> Or maybe even use XMPP, to 'chat' with itself.
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/xmpp/
>
> The front end just sends a chat message.
>
> The backend worker subscribes to the channel, and performs the POSTs
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 22:44, Barry Hunter  wrote:
>
>> Maybe you could use the Task Queue? inserts should generally by quick.
>>
>> Then a 'worker' can process tasks in background - performing the actual
>> POSTs
>>
>> On 24 May 2016 at 09:17, Ashley Finney <2dea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to wait
>>> for the response, the call should be as quick and
>>> cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send a
>>> message to another server.  I don't mind if I lose messages.
>>> Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-24 Thread Barry Hunter 
Or maybe even use XMPP, to 'chat' with itself.
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/xmpp/

The front end just sends a chat message.

The backend worker subscribes to the channel, and performs the POSTs

On 24 May 2016 at 22:44, Barry Hunter  wrote:

> Maybe you could use the Task Queue? inserts should generally by quick.
>
> Then a 'worker' can process tasks in background - performing the actual
> POSTs
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 09:17, Ashley Finney <2dea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to wait
>> for the response, the call should be as quick and
>> cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send a
>> message to another server.  I don't mind if I lose messages.
>> Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?
>>
>> Many thanks.
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Re: [google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-24 Thread Barry Hunter 
Maybe you could use the Task Queue? inserts should generally by quick.

Then a 'worker' can process tasks in background - performing the actual
POSTs

On 24 May 2016 at 09:17, Ashley Finney <2dea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to wait
> for the response, the call should be as quick and
> cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send a
> message to another server.  I don't mind if I lose messages.
> Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?
>
> Many thanks.
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[google-appengine] Fire and forget URL

2016-05-24 Thread Ashley Finney 
In GAE I want to fire a Post message at a URL but I do not want to wait for 
the response, the call should be as quick and cheap (cpu/memory/cost) as 
possible.  All I'm doing is using this to send a message to another server. 
 I don't mind if I lose messages.
Instead of using "appengine/urlfetch" is there another method?

Many thanks.

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