Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-29 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 29 Apr 2015, at 10:29, 'Colin Decker' via google-guice wrote:

 Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released! 
 [https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40](https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40)

w00t - congrats to all involved in the guice team!

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-28 Thread Filipe Sousa
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On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:29:03 PM UTC+1, Colin Decker wrote:

 Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released! 
 https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40

 Full changelog and a more official announcement of it will be coming, but 
 I wanted to send a quick announcement here first.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:11 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hey Sam,

 Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able 
 to cut the release sometime this week?

 -Ben


 On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:39 PM, shawn...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 +1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a release 
 might happen

 So it's just the changelog that's left now? No need for the changelog to 
 be a release blocker :-) It's a nice-to-have, but if it's the only thing 
 holding up a release, I'd love to see the release now and we can always put 
 the changelog up after

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Berlin
Thanks for the productive bugging about it, Ben. :-)

And thanks very much to Colin for doing all the release mojo!

sam

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Woohoo! Thank you guys so much!!!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, 'Colin Decker' via google-guice 
 google-guice@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released!
 https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40

 Full changelog and a more official announcement of it will be coming, but
 I wanted to send a quick announcement here first.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:11 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Hey Sam,

 Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able
 to cut the release sometime this week?

 -Ben


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 +1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a
 release might happen

 So it's just the changelog that's left now? No need for the changelog
 to be a release blocker :-) It's a nice-to-have, but if it's the only thing
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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-28 Thread Ben McCann
Woohoo! Thank you guys so much!!!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, 'Colin Decker' via google-guice 
google-guice@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released!
 https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40

 Full changelog and a more official announcement of it will be coming, but
 I wanted to send a quick announcement here first.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:11 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Hey Sam,

 Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able
 to cut the release sometime this week?

 -Ben


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 +1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a release
 might happen

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-28 Thread Tim Peierls
Whoa!
On Apr 28, 2015 6:33 PM, Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Woohoo! Thank you guys so much!!!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, 'Colin Decker' via google-guice 
 google-guice@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released!
 https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40

 Full changelog and a more official announcement of it will be coming, but
 I wanted to send a quick announcement here first.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:11 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Hey Sam,

 Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able
 to cut the release sometime this week?

 -Ben


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 +1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a
 release might happen

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-28 Thread 'Colin Decker' via google-guice
Hey all, you'll be happy to know that Guice 4.0 is at long last released!
https://github.com/google/guice/wiki/Guice40

Full changelog and a more official announcement of it will be coming, but I
wanted to send a quick announcement here first.

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 Hey Sam,

 Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able to
 cut the release sometime this week?

 -Ben


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 +1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a release
 might happen

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-27 Thread Ben McCann
Hey Sam,

Is there anything else I can help out with? Do you think you'll be able to
cut the release sometime this week?

-Ben


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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-23 Thread shawn78787
+1 to Tim's question of whether it's possible to estimate when a release 
might happen

So it's just the changelog that's left now? No need for the changelog to be 
a release blocker :-) It's a nice-to-have, but if it's the only thing 
holding up a release, I'd love to see the release now and we can always put 
the changelog up after

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Tim Boudreau
Is it possible to put a target date on that?

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I believe cgdecker is looking at promoting a 4.0 release when time
 allows.

 sam

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM Ben McCann benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed before
 4.0 can be released?


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0.

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on Guice,
 and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving to 4.0
 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in
 production.


 Jeremy,

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts,
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Sam Berlin
Nope. I believe cgdecker is looking at promoting a 4.0 release when time
allows.

sam

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM Ben McCann benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed before
 4.0 can be released?


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0.

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on Guice,
 and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving to 4.0
 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in
 production.


 Jeremy,

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts,
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Sam Berlin
I think the TODOs are:
  * flush out use of Guava @Beta APIs  [done -- Colin just sent a CL to fix
these]
  * write a meaningful changelog
  * update @since tags

sam

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Cool! Is it just pushing to Maven that needs to happen? I think I could do
 that if you guys need a hand. I maintained Guiceberry and some other Google
 libraries and may still have permissions to the Google Maven repo. If it's
 even setup the same way still...  Or if there are other TODOs that need a
 hand I can help out.

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Tim Boudreau niftin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it possible to put a target date on that?


 On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I believe cgdecker is looking at promoting a 4.0 release when time
 allows.

 sam

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM Ben McCann benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed before
 4.0 can be released?


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0.

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on
 Guice, and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving 
 to
 4.0 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in
 production.


 Jeremy,

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts,
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it 
 for a
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came
 up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this
 one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice
 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests 
 to
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Ben McCann
I took a stab at the remaining item, which was the changelog. I'm not super
familiar with the changes made, so you might want to take your own pass at
it, but here are the main things I saw:

   - Added BoundFieldModule for use in tests to reduce the code needed to
   bind local fields (usually mocks) for injection.
   - Added DaggerAdapter to adapt classes annotated with @dagger.Module
   such that their @dagger.Provides methods can be properly invoked by Guice.
   - Rewrite of dependency graphing
   - Added numerous new multibindings
   - Expanded the SPI

-Ben


On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Cool. Here's a PR for the @since tags:
 https://github.com/google/guice/pull/916

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the TODOs are:
   * flush out use of Guava @Beta APIs  [done -- Colin just sent a CL to
 fix these]
   * write a meaningful changelog
   * update @since tags

 sam

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Cool! Is it just pushing to Maven that needs to happen? I think I could
 do that if you guys need a hand. I maintained Guiceberry and some other
 Google libraries and may still have permissions to the Google Maven repo.
 If it's even setup the same way still...  Or if there are other TODOs that
 need a hand I can help out.

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Tim Boudreau niftin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is it possible to put a target date on that?


 On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I believe cgdecker is looking at promoting a 4.0 release when
 time allows.

 sam

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM Ben McCann benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed
 before 4.0 can be released?


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0.

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on
 Guice, and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back 
 moving to
 4.0 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in
 production.


 Jeremy,

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere
 thereabouts, and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about
 the fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it 
 for a
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this
 came up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and
 this one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new 
 beta
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of
 Guice 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding
 requests to downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using 
 features
 of Guice 4.  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta 
 status
 is getting silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Sam Berlin
There's a ton more than that.  :-)

I wrote up a changelog last Nov 2013 (so it's missing everything since
then), but it looked something like this:

CORE:
 * Allow interceptors to intercept methods that javac created a bridge
method using invokespecial for. (We have an internal bug that tracked
this, I'm not clear how to succinctly say it though.)
 * Issue 626 https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=626 -
fix circular dependencies between providers.
 * Issue 78 https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=78 -
Added ProvisionListener (use Binder.bindListener(Matcher,
ProvisionListener)), to intercept provisioning (creating  injecting stuff).
 * Issue 643 https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=643 -
classloader leak relating to AOP.
 * Fixed a bunch of exceptions:
 - When encountering circular JIT bindings.
 - When a scope cached a proxy for a circular dependency
 - When requestInjection (or some other things) are injecting the same
object more than once, but the object was bound in a different order than
it's being injected.
 * Add Binder.requireAtInjectOnConstructs, to prevent Guice from creating
instances of classes that have no-args public constructors w/o @Inject.
 * Change the way Key works with annotations, so that it considers
@Annotation is equal to Annotation.class if the annotation has all optional
methods.
 * Add Binder.requireExactBindingAnnotations, to prevent Guice from
allowing a binding for @Named Foo to fulfill a request for @Named(foo)
Foo, if the latter was missing but the former existed.  (This applies to
all parameterized annotations, not just @Named.)
 * Improved error message when requestStaticInjection is called on an
interface
 * Add Scopes.isEagerSingleton
 * Reduce memory required for keeping binding source info.
 * Return a new ElementSource object when possible in Binding.getSource, to
get more detailed information about the binding.  This includes keeping
track of all the modules in the path that led to the binding.
 * Improve error messaging so it lists out all the modules that led to a
failed binding.
 * Add the ability to to stop recording line numbers of bindings, which can
increase startup time drastically (at the expense of less useful error
messages).

GRAPHER:
  * A bunch of changes, see CL
https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/source/detail?r=b71955639ab617e0a4115b1439c8b9982227a018
for
details.
  * Fix issue 663
https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=663 - graphs look
really bad/corrupt.

SERVLET:
  * Make it work with requireExplicitBindings
  * Make sure each filter or servlet in the chain gets the latest
request/response, even if they're wrapped by earlier filters.
  * Add a @ScopingOnly GuiceFilter that can scope
  * Reduce stack traces by pruning out the
c.g.i.servlet.Filter{ChainInvocation,Definition}.doFilter lines.
  * Fix ordering of when filters are processed -- first binding first.  It
could have been wrong if different filters came from different sub-modules.
  * Add ServletScopes.isRequestScoped to easily find out if a binding is
request scoped.
  * Reduced the stack size when calling filters.
  * Fix exception when manipulating the context path.
  * Fix exception when getCookies returned null.

PERSIST:
  * Remove log4j.properties from the jar

MULTIBINDER:
  * Fix issue 670
https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=670 - set  map
bindings could conflict with each other.
  * Make Multibinder/MapBinder work as expected with Modules.override --
exact same bindings are not listed twice anymore.

THROWING PROVIDERS:
  * Add ThrowingProviderBinder.providing(Class|TypeLiteral), which creates
a proxy CheckedProvider that will construct the given class.
  * Improved exception messages when more than one underlying dependency
fails.

ASSISTED INJECT:
  * Fail hard if assisted injected class has a scoping annotation.


sam

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 I took a stab at the remaining item, which was the changelog. I'm not
 super familiar with the changes made, so you might want to take your own
 pass at it, but here are the main things I saw:

- Added BoundFieldModule for use in tests to reduce the code needed to
bind local fields (usually mocks) for injection.
- Added DaggerAdapter to adapt classes annotated with @dagger.Module
such that their @dagger.Provides methods can be properly invoked by Guice.
- Rewrite of dependency graphing
- Added numerous new multibindings
- Expanded the SPI

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Cool. Here's a PR for the @since tags:
 https://github.com/google/guice/pull/916

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the TODOs are:
   * flush out use of Guava @Beta APIs  [done -- Colin just sent a CL to
 fix these]
   * write a meaningful changelog
   * update @since tags

 sam

 On Tue, 

Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-21 Thread Ben McCann
Cool. Here's a PR for the @since tags:
https://github.com/google/guice/pull/916

-Ben


On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the TODOs are:
   * flush out use of Guava @Beta APIs  [done -- Colin just sent a CL to
 fix these]
   * write a meaningful changelog
   * update @since tags

 sam

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM Ben McCann b...@benmccann.com wrote:

 Cool! Is it just pushing to Maven that needs to happen? I think I could
 do that if you guys need a hand. I maintained Guiceberry and some other
 Google libraries and may still have permissions to the Google Maven repo.
 If it's even setup the same way still...  Or if there are other TODOs that
 need a hand I can help out.

 -Ben


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Tim Boudreau niftin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is it possible to put a target date on that?


 On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Sam Berlin sber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I believe cgdecker is looking at promoting a 4.0 release when
 time allows.

 sam

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, 10:33 PM Ben McCann benjamin.j.mcc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed
 before 4.0 can be released?


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0.

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on
 Guice, and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving 
 to
 4.0 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in
 production.


 Jeremy,

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere
 thereabouts, and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it 
 for a
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came
 up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this
 one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of
 Guice 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding
 requests to downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using 
 features
 of Guice 4.  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta 
 status
 is getting silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-20 Thread Ben McCann
Is there any roadmap or list of issues that need to be addressed before 4.0 
can be released?


On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Chone wrote:

 +1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0. 

 Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on Guice, 
 and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving to 4.0 
 because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in 
 production. 


 Jeremy, 

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim



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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-05 Thread James Roper
The thread leak in question is this one:

https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=288

I haven't checked if it's fixed in Guice 4, but I've encountered it twice 
in Guice 3, once was just the other day when I was checking for leaks in 
general in Play Framework.

On Friday, 3 April 2015 07:58:47 UTC+11, Hannes Steffenhagen wrote:

 It seems to have been fixed in 4; And I don't quite remember what it was, 
 this decision was made before I joined. Some kind of leak, if I recall 
 correctly.

 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 4:29:38 PM UTC-4, Sam Berlin wrote:

 Is the bug fixed in Guice 4?  What bug?

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM Hannes Steffenhagen cubicen...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 +1, at our company we're actually stuck with guice 2 due to a bug in 
 guice 3, and there's no real process to allow something marked as 'beta' to 
 ship in production.


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for 
 a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.  
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-05 Thread Jeremy Chone
+1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0. 

Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on Guice, 
and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving to 4.0 
because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in 
production. 


Jeremy, 

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:26:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim



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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-05 Thread Jeremy Chone
+1 Never ending beta feels so Web 2.0. 

Same here, I have a build a Web binding framework (Snow) based on Guice, 
and use it with all of my clients, and I have pushing back moving to 4.0 
because I do not want to tell my clients that I put beta things in 
production. 


Jeremy, 


On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 3:26:22 AM UTC-7, James Roper wrote:

 The thread leak in question is this one:

 https://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=288

 I haven't checked if it's fixed in Guice 4, but I've encountered it twice 
 in Guice 3, once was just the other day when I was checking for leaks in 
 general in Play Framework.

 On Friday, 3 April 2015 07:58:47 UTC+11, Hannes Steffenhagen wrote:

 It seems to have been fixed in 4; And I don't quite remember what it was, 
 this decision was made before I joined. Some kind of leak, if I recall 
 correctly.

 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 4:29:38 PM UTC-4, Sam Berlin wrote:

 Is the bug fixed in Guice 4?  What bug?

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM Hannes Steffenhagen cubicen...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 +1, at our company we're actually stuck with guice 2 due to a bug in 
 guice 3, and there's no real process to allow something marked as 'beta' 
 to 
 ship in production.


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for 
 a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came 
 up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this 
 one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta 
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 
 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests 
 to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-02 Thread Hannes Steffenhagen
It seems to have been fixed in 4; And I don't quite remember what it was, 
this decision was made before I joined. Some kind of leak, if I recall 
correctly.

On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 4:29:38 PM UTC-4, Sam Berlin wrote:

 Is the bug fixed in Guice 4?  What bug?

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM Hannes Steffenhagen cubicen...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 +1, at our company we're actually stuck with guice 2 due to a bug in 
 guice 3, and there's no real process to allow something marked as 'beta' to 
 ship in production.


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.  
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-02 Thread Sam Berlin
Is the bug fixed in Guice 4?  What bug?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM Hannes Steffenhagen cubicentert...@gmail.com
wrote:

 +1, at our company we're actually stuck with guice 2 due to a bug in guice
 3, and there's no real process to allow something marked as 'beta' to ship
 in production.


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production,
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4.
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting
 silly.

 -Tim

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-04-02 Thread Hannes Steffenhagen
+1, at our company we're actually stuck with guice 2 due to a bug in guice 
3, and there's no real process to allow something marked as 'beta' to ship 
in production.

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim



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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-23 Thread shawn78787
+1 there's a thread leak in Guice 3 that is apparently fixed in Guice 4. 
very interested in a Guice 4 release


On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 7:22:10 AM UTC-7, dhoffer wrote:

 +1

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:16 AM, nino martinez wael 
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 +1

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The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-17 Thread nino martinez wael
+1

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-17 Thread David Hoffer
+1

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-16 Thread James Roper
I don't always +1 things, but when I do, I +1 a stable release of Guice 4.

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 +1 just in case the elves can hear from a long way off ...


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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-14 Thread Stephan Classen
+1
I also wouldn't mind to have a version 4.15 or similar if you keep adding new 
features to guice.

Am 14. März 2015 06:52:27 MEZ, schrieb Vyacheslav Rusakov vya...@gmail.com:
+1 
I also feel uncomfortable that my libs use beta version. Besides its
almost 
a year now since planned release date.

пятница, 13 марта 2015 г., 22:59:40 UTC+6 пользователь Benjamin McCann 
написал:

 +1 Play Framework is integrating Guice, but will only use Guice 3
because 
 of the beta label. I'd love to see Guice 4 used instead. Release
early and 
 often!
 https://github.com/playframework/playframework/issues/3768


 On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:19:04 AM UTC-7, sarah...@gmail.com
wrote:

 +1 beta is not an indicator of the code quality. this is production
ready 
 code


 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:19:48 PM UTC-7, Kevin Burton wrote:

 Do it!  I don't have spikey hair and it weirded me out at first :)

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-8, Laszlo Ferenczi
wrote:

 +1

 Thanks.
  
 —
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 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Tim Boudreau nift...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere
thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about
the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in

 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production
with it for a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this
came 
 up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature
and this 
 one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new
beta 
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of
Guice 
 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding
requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of
Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is
getting 
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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-14 Thread Tim Boudreau
Is anybody from the Guice team at Google listening, or have the elves left
Middle-Earth?

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-14 Thread Sam Berlin
Happy St Patrick's day. :-)

We hear y'all, don't worry.

sam

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 +1 just in case the elves can hear from a long way off ...


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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-14 Thread David Sowerby
+1 just in case the elves can hear from a long way off ...

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-14 Thread Sam Berlin
... Actually I guess today isn't really St Patrick's day... parades throw
you off.

But we still hear y'all.

sam

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Happy St Patrick's day. :-)

We hear y'all, don't worry.

sam

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 +1 just in case the elves can hear from a long way off ...


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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-13 Thread Vyacheslav Rusakov
+1 
I also feel uncomfortable that my libs use beta version. Besides its almost 
a year now since planned release date.

пятница, 13 марта 2015 г., 22:59:40 UTC+6 пользователь Benjamin McCann 
написал:

 +1 Play Framework is integrating Guice, but will only use Guice 3 because 
 of the beta label. I'd love to see Guice 4 used instead. Release early and 
 often!
 https://github.com/playframework/playframework/issues/3768


 On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:19:04 AM UTC-7, sarah...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 beta is not an indicator of the code quality. this is production ready 
 code


 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:19:48 PM UTC-7, Kevin Burton wrote:

 Do it!  I don't have spikey hair and it weirded me out at first :)

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-8, Laszlo Ferenczi wrote:

 +1

 Thanks.
  
 —
 L


 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Tim Boudreau nift...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for 
 a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came 
 up there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this 
 one from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta 
 version since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 
 4 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests 
 to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-13 Thread sarahkm1972
+1 beta is not an indicator of the code quality. this is production ready 
code


On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:19:48 PM UTC-7, Kevin Burton wrote:

 Do it!  I don't have spikey hair and it weirded me out at first :)

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-8, Laszlo Ferenczi wrote:

 +1

 Thanks.
  
 —
 L


 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Tim Boudreau nift...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-13 Thread Benjamin McCann
+1 Play Framework is integrating Guice, but will only use Guice 3 because 
of the beta label. I'd love to see Guice 4 used instead. Release early and 
often!
https://github.com/playframework/playframework/issues/3768


On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:19:04 AM UTC-7, sarah...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 beta is not an indicator of the code quality. this is production ready 
 code


 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:19:48 PM UTC-7, Kevin Burton wrote:

 Do it!  I don't have spikey hair and it weirded me out at first :)

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-8, Laszlo Ferenczi wrote:

 +1

 Thanks.
  
 —
 L


 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Tim Boudreau nift...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, 
 and have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the 
 fact that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in 
 production, and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for 
 a 
 long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-09 Thread Kevin Burton
Do it!  I don't have spikey hair and it weirded me out at first :)

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-8, Laszlo Ferenczi wrote:

 +1

 Thanks.
  
 —
 L


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 javascript: wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
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The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-06 Thread Tim Boudreau
Hi, folks,

I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
since.

Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 and 
get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
 It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
silly.

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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Second that. It's kind of funny to stay in beta for a couple of years, but 
come on, there are lots of serious spiky haired people out there who panic 
when they hear 'beta' ;-)

Eelco

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Boudreau wrote:

 Hi, folks,

 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.

 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.

 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.

 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 
 and get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.

 -Tim



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Re: The never-ending beta of Guice 4

2015-03-06 Thread lferenczi
+1




Thanks.



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L

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Tim Boudreau niftin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, folks,
 I've been using Guice 4 since, I think 2012 or somewhere thereabouts, and 
 have built a number of frameworks on top of it.
 Now, once again, I have a user of one of them freaking out about the fact 
 that Guice 4 is still in beta.  I know Google is using it in production, 
 and a lot of us are - I've had code in production with it for a long time.
 What will it take to get this out the door?  The last time this came up 
 there was a comment of ooh, but I want to add this feature and this one 
 from someone - and as far as I know there has not been a new beta version 
 since.
 Seriously, please, please god please, can we bless a release of Guice 4 and 
 get it out the door, so the rest of us can stop fielding requests to 
 downgrade to Guice 3?  I. for one, can't - I'm using features of Guice 4. 
  It's been a long, long time and this is permanent beta status is getting 
 silly.
 -Tim
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