Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
As a moderator of this group, I reject almost a dozen job postings per day. Several per week actually relate to GWT, but even so are inconsistent with this forum's mission. However, I approved Jeff Burnham's post because I think there is some benefit in this discussion. The GWT team doesn't feel that it's our place to maintain a GWT jobs forum; however, if the community wants to take this on, we'll certainly be glad to help promote it. Also, if there are things you want recruiters to know, I'll be happy to write up a sticky post with info for recruiters (as well as a restatement of the job postings ban on this forum). In the mean time, if you're a GWT consultant looking for work, here's some advice I can offer as a former consultant. 1. The best jobs are those that find you, so make yourself findable. Write a GWT blog. Put GWT developer in your Google+ and LinkedIn profiles with a link to your Google Groups profile so recruiters can see how often you post on this group. Also put GWT consulting or something more descriptive in your signature so it shows up in every post on this group. Good recruiters know how to search Google Groups and StackOverflow to find the real experts. 2. Give a GWT talk at your local JUG or GTUG. Recruiters often frequent the larger JUGs and if you're giving the talk, you're their expert. 3. Get your resume in the database of every credible technical staffing shop you can find. Apply for every GWT job. Even if it's slightly over/under your abilities, that will get you in the recruiter's resume database. Put a link to your online profiles in your resume so they can read your blog, see how long you've been posting on this group, etc. 4. Post your resume in the various online job services like Dice and Monster. Don't just search for jobs--make yourself searchable. Many jobs are never posted--the recruiters search the online databases and contact you directly. Also make sure you update your resume in these services every couple months as recruiters tend to look for recent updates. Again, let me know where you want me to direct GWT job postings, and I'll be happy to help out. /dmc On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 AM, A. Stevko andy.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Without an appropriate alternative, I personally would like to encourage GWT job openings/availability to be posted here. Not job spam but GWT jobs. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.comwrote: On 10 July 2011 17:35, Jeff jeffrey.burn...@gmail.com wrote: However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way. Clearly he was being sarcastic. He was actually agreeing with your posting here since there is currently no real alternative. /end_discussion Nice one. Sort of like a double negative, though, don't you think? :-) That should probably be /discussion. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- -- A. Stevko === If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. M. Andretti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- David Chandler Developer Programs Engineer, GWT+GAE w: http://code.google.com/ b: http://turbomanage.wordpress.com/ b: http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/ t: @googledevtools -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
On 07/11/2011 08:35 AM, David Chandler wrote: As a moderator of this group, I reject almost a dozen job postings per day. Several per week actually relate to GWT, but even so are inconsistent with this forum's mission. However, I approved Jeff Burnham's post because I think there is some benefit in this discussion. The GWT team doesn't feel that it's our place to maintain a GWT jobs forum; however, if the community wants to take this on, we'll certainly be glad to help promote it. Also, if there are things you want recruiters to know, I'll be happy to write up a sticky post with info for recruiters (as well as a restatement of the job postings ban on this forum). In the mean time, if you're a GWT consultant looking for work, here's some advice I can offer as a former consultant. 1. The best jobs are those that find you, so make yourself findable. Write a GWT blog. Put GWT developer in your Google+ and LinkedIn profiles with a link to your Google Groups profile so recruiters can see how often you post on this group. Also put GWT consulting or something more descriptive in your signature so it shows up in every post on this group. Good recruiters know how to search Google Groups and StackOverflow to find the real experts. 2. Give a GWT talk at your local JUG or GTUG. Recruiters often frequent the larger JUGs and if you're giving the talk, you're their expert. 3. Get your resume in the database of every credible technical staffing shop you can find. Apply for every GWT job. Even if it's slightly over/under your abilities, that will get you in the recruiter's resume database. Put a link to your online profiles in your resume so they can read your blog, see how long you've been posting on this group, etc. 4. Post your resume in the various online job services like Dice and Monster. Don't just search for jobs--make yourself searchable. Many jobs are never posted--the recruiters search the online databases and contact you directly. Also make sure you update your resume in these services every couple months as recruiters tend to look for recent updates. Again, let me know where you want me to direct GWT job postings, and I'll be happy to help out. /dmc Well, that's a nice segue! To take nothing away from dmc's excellent advice, we still have the list out there. As I was moving manure this morning, I was thinking about this issue. To that end, I would like to propose that we share the moderation task. Given that the jobs list is a commons, we shouldn't ask Google employees to moderate the list, and we and us means those who subscribe to GWT users list. I should think that if we get somewhere between 5 and 10 volunteers, one person from that pool can moderate the jobs list for some period (nominally 2 weeks). At the end of that period, the next person in the list assumes the task. Perhaps a Google calendar to track each moderator's schedule. The idea is to share the soul-sucking zombification that is list management, yet still maintain a useful service to the community. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Aw: Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
Maybe the community should write a (international) GWT app for job recruitments and Google will host it for free on app engine and put a sticky post into this group with a link to that app ;-) -- J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/89VDO89kVr8J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
GWT Developer Job Openings
Hi Jeff, Normally here are discussed technical aspects of GWT development and discussions about job offers are very rare... I can share my expieience from opposite direction - about yeaR before I was searching for any web site with job offers for GWT developer without big succes: many sites had even filter GWT but enablint it gave 0 results :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/IEyAYND7uDwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
I guess I should have phrased my question a little differently. As a fellow member of the GWT developer community and someone who is actively looking for skilled GWT developers, would this community find a benefit in a common thread where GWT opportunities can be posted by developers for developers? If the answer is yes, I'm actively looking for at least two people who can legally work within the United States and are willing to relocate or travel weekly to client sites (currently west coast) to take on lead design and dev roles utilizing GWT and web services. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/0yORR_q6e8kJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
On 07/10/2011 05:11 PM, Jeff wrote: I guess I should have phrased my question a little differently. As a fellow member of the GWT developer community and someone who is actively looking for skilled GWT developers, would this community find a benefit in a common thread where GWT opportunities can be posted by developers for developers? If the answer is yes, I'm actively looking for at least two people who can legally work within the United States and are willing to relocate or travel weekly to client sites (currently west coast) to take on lead design and dev roles utilizing GWT and web services. It looks like http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Employment never found a moderator. If it did have a moderator, that would be where I would post such a message. No doubt there will be those who wish to wield a banhammer on you for having the temerity to post this topic, but I don't see any reasonable alternative right now. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
Since it was a question that I was posting and clearly had the indent of finding talent that contributed to this forum (which has aided me personally in finding solutions to problems) and trying to pay it forward by to those who may not be employed there was clearly no temerity. However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way. /end_discussion -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/uqBQ2aK0INwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
On 7/10/2011 5:35 PM, Jeff wrote: Since it was a question that I was posting and clearly had the indent of finding talent that contributed to this forum (which has aided me personally in finding solutions to problems) and trying to pay it forward by to those who may not be employed there was clearly no temerity. However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way. /end_discussion My response in no way was to be taken as a slur. I'm sorry that you read it that way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
On 10 July 2011 17:35, Jeff jeffrey.burn...@gmail.com wrote: However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way. Clearly he was being sarcastic. He was actually agreeing with your posting here since there is currently no real alternative. /end_discussion Nice one. Sort of like a double negative, though, don't you think? :-) That should probably be /discussion. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT Developer Job Openings
Without an appropriate alternative, I personally would like to encourage GWT job openings/availability to be posted here. Not job spam but GWT jobs. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.comwrote: On 10 July 2011 17:35, Jeff jeffrey.burn...@gmail.com wrote: However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way. Clearly he was being sarcastic. He was actually agreeing with your posting here since there is currently no real alternative. /end_discussion Nice one. Sort of like a double negative, though, don't you think? :-) That should probably be /discussion. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- -- A. Stevko === If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. M. Andretti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
GWT Developer Job Openings
Does anyone know if this group is an appropriate place to post requests for experienced GWT developers or if there is a better forum? The standard job sites tend to send over anyone who has heard of GWT not actual GWT developers. Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
