Re: [Gossip] archive not updated for board-disc...@documentfoundation.org mailinglist

2015-06-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff,

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> The spam filtering service we use (SpamHero) quarantined that message along
> with some others. I've released the messages from quarantine and also
> adjusted
> the whitelist to hopefully reduce or prevent this from happening in the
> future.

Thanks a lot for the quick fix.

> I'm sorry about this and we would definitely consider switching to a better
> spam filtering service if we can find one.

No worries - let us know if we (TDF) can do something to avoid getting
flagged :-)

ciao
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[Gossip] archive not updated for board-disc...@documentfoundation.org mailinglist

2015-06-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi  *,

seems that  some indexing  got stuck for the  aforementioned list

http://www.mail-archive.com/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/maillist.html

I confirmed that arch...@mail-archive.com is still subscribed, and
mail is sent and accepted:

e.g. most recent mail:

Jun 30 10:14:41 bilbo2 postfix/smtp[24343]: E9708621E1:
to=,
relay=mail-archive-com.p10.spamhero.com[208.53.48.136]:25, delay=3.2,
delays=0.03/0/2.5/0.67, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued
as 3mLM4J5jFMz1vwjf)

http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/msg03651.html

latency graph doesn't show any unusual spikes, so  I  assume  it  is a
problem specific to  the list (and not restricted  to today's post,
but the other two from earlier this  month are  also not  listed.

other lists seem unaffected.

ciao
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Re: Archived-At links - another non-working example

2013-09-04 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> I've now had some time to spruce up the search feature. Amazing what
> progress Lucene has made in the last few years. Search is slightly
> faster now, there is less code on our end, and I found and fixed a couple of
> rare bugs involving HTML escaping.

Ah, cool :-)

> What I can't do is reproduce your problem; it works fine for me. We seem to
> be calculating the link differently. Is something unclear in the 
> documentation?

Hmm. Sorry for not checking whether the hash actually is correct - and
no, the documentation is not lacking - we're basically using the exact
same code.

But I got what went wrong at our end: The mail was not only sent to
the list, but also to another addressee, so it did not create the hash
with the wrong email. Apparently something changed in the
mailinglistmanager we use..

Thanks for investigation, and sorry for the false alarm.

ciao
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Archived-At links - another non-working example

2013-07-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

we stumbled across another non-working archive-link - the targeted
message is in the archive, and newer and older messages are accessible
using the hash-URLs.

The message in question is:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@de.libreoffice.org/msg15830.html
and the corresponding, non-working archived-at link is
http://go.mail-archive.com/c-LzIp2g0mD_PUzGjm4_-yBorXU=

Contrary to the problems with the links in the past, searching by the
message-ID alone returns the result <51f69250.5090...@libreoffice.org>

Hope you can dig up what is wrong.

ciao
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Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

2012-12-02 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> Thank you for the feedback, keep it coming.
>
> Interesting screenshots. By the way, my everyday platform is
> also Ubuntu (10.04 and 12.04). So far I can't reproduce font
> problems with courier.

Speaking of fonts: After reading a while in the archive I find the
line-spacing a little excessive - it is currently at 1.4

Personally I find 1.2 much more comfortable for longer posts.

ciao
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Re: New look to Mail Archive message pages

2012-11-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jeff Marshall  wrote:
> [...]
> We've been finding and fixing bugs with the new design the last few weeks
> but please alert us to all the edge cases we've neglected to find ourselves!
>
> Feedback and bug reports are desired.

I like the new design  Also like that I don't have to do horizontal
scrolling to read the posts, as I hate having my browser maximized
(only have 1280x800 screen, but still my browser ~never is maximized
horizontally)

What I dislike is that visited links are indistinguishable from non
visited ones. The difference in color just is way too little.

ciao
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Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Ralph Corderoy  wrote:
>
>> http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/318-mail-archive/38.htm

Not much of a friend of displaying the ads within the message as if
the poster had added the image (but that's not different compared to
as it is now).

Like the removal of deadspace at the top (less scrolling), but dislike
the removal of the navigation from the top.

> Generally, I like it.  The "18-01-2012, 10:51PM -0800" date is
> re-formatted compared to the original email so I'd like some say over
> how it's displayed to me, e.g. preferences in a cookie, or else a better
> default;  "2012-01-18 22:51:42 -0800"  ;-).

Yea, ISO-Format please :-)

> How do I get to view the original email that arrived, headers, warts,
> and all?

That isn't possible in the current design either, you see a the
message-id in the source-code view though.

> I'd probably prefer the thread display at the bottom to be author first,
> then subject.  Both can use CSS to cut off their text at the edge of
> their box, then fixed-width isn't required?

I prefer Subject, then Author, but I'd prefer if it wasn't truncated
that much. Navigation/thread list should span across the whole browser
window if possible.

> The Previous and Next buttons at the end are handy, though I'm not sure
> they need to say "message" too.  But the pair are also required at the
> top of the page, though they could be more terse and smaller.

or plain links, no need for buttons at the top.

>  What's
> important is that their position is fixed from page to page.  This
> allows the mouse to stay in the same place and the user to click through
> whilst seeing just the first page of each email.

Yes, that's mainly why I dislike the removal of the buttons at the top.

> Access keys should
> also be defined to do similar.

And that would be really nice. (but they should also be advertized,
maybe using a link/icon next to the navigation buttons.

ciao
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Re: Archived-At links for new mails not working anymore (since June-10)

2012-07-04 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff,

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> Okay, found the bug.

Great :-) & thanks for sharing the reason.

> [...] I have hopefully corrected the
> code, so there should be good data going forward.

yes, confirmed. Works again for new messages.

> Can you remind me which lists are actively using the Archived-At feature?

It is added to all public lists managed by TDF, i.e. to all
@*.libreoffice.org and all @documentfoundation.org mailinglists.

see
http://go.mail-archive.com/YDDU2NX9f8BkG1iXDzJPWzrrgrY=

for a more or less recent list.

ciao
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Re: Archived-At links for new mails not working anymore (since June-10)

2012-06-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> Thanks for the note, we'll take a look. By the way, there's a discussion
> about using a shorter URL. Would that be useful to you?

When shorter URLs will be possible, we'll adopt them, but it is not
critical for us.

Most important for us is the gain in comfort. People have the
message-thread in their local archives and want to point others to it.
Now all they need is to copy the Archived-At Link, previously they had
to go to the archive and spend time on searching/browsing the archive
for the desired message (and often didn't bother to do so, and instead
just wrote "has been discussed already, look it up in the archives"
:-)).

ciao
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Archived-At links for new mails not working anymore (since June-10)

2012-06-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

Is a cronjob stuck? It seems that the archived-at links don't work for
messages sent since 2012-06-10.

Old links work, but new ones give a 404...

ciao
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-website] Archived-At: links not working since May 31th?

2011-06-27 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff,

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
>> [hash-URLs and search by message-ID not working]
>>  > I assume the indexing is not running at their end for some reason.
>
> This should be completely resolved as of June 20th.

Yes, can confirm that it's fixed. Thanks a lot!

ciao
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What happened to search? (only google custom search with crippled possibilities?)

2011-02-12 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

what I always liked about mail-archive.com was its powerful search,
but it seems it has been replaced by a google search, that doesn't
support the lucene parameters anymore.

The first change to the worse since I've been using mail-archive.com

So if this is a permanent change (the message back in November last year
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01352.html
sounded that while there was a problem, work is towards reenabling the
feature), please update the FAQ wrt. search syntax accordingly.

Thankfully perl-list search is still using lucene search, but
searching multiple/all lists is where the more powerful search syntax
is most helpful...

ciao
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Re: Urls containing "@" screwed up in archived Mails

2010-12-12 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi Jeff, *,
>
> Jeff Breidenbach schrieb:
>
>>> ((?:cid:)?|(?:(?:http://(?:www\.)?)?mail-archive\.com/)?)($AddrExp)
>
>>Tested and live. Thanks guys.

Thanks a lot!

> The initial posting's broken link remains broken:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40documentfoundation.org/msg00453.html

I personally did not expect all indexed mails to be regenerated.

ciao
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Re: Urls containing "@" screwed up in archived Mails

2010-12-10 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Friedrich, *;

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
 wrote:
>
> long time no see .. ;o))

:-)

> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
>>On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
> [...]
> in this case - I fear  isn't the right thing to do or
> the "feeding" code has to be adapted to get whole string between
> \s(pace) containing $adress.

I had a quick look at MHonArc sources and there are two possible
points where the behavriour can be tweaked.

One is the expression that identifies email-addresses in lib/mhinit.pl

##  Regexp for address/msg-id detection (looks like cussing in cartoons)
$AddrExp  = '[^()<>@,;:\/\s"\'&|]...@[^()<>@,;:\/\s"\'&|]+';
$HAddrExp = '[^()<>@,;:\/\s"\'&|]+(?:@|&\#[xX]0*40;|&64;)[^()<>@,;:\/\s"\'&|]+';

(I guess cussing should read cursing :-))
Fix would be to prefix the expression with a negative match for
(?

Re: Urls containing "@" screwed up in archived Mails

2010-12-10 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Friedrich, *,

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
 wrote:
> Jeff Breidenbach schrieb:
>
> [..]
>
>> http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/addressmodifycode.html
>
>> 
>> $orig_address = $_;
>> $address = lc($orig_address);
>> if ($ENV{'MAILLIST'} eq $address) {
>>    # If it's the list address, leave it alone.
>>    $final_address = $orig_address;
>> } else {
>>    # Otherwise, conceal the address. (Choose ONE option below.)
>>    $address =~ s/(.).{0,3}(@.*)/$1\.\.\.$2/;  # usern...@domain.com
>>    $final_address = $address;
>> }
>> $_ = $final_address;
>> 
>
> Did You already stumble over the definition what is considered an
> address, loaded to $orig_address?

Judging from the substitute statement (and also by the comparison
whether it is the list address itself). it just is the
disc...@documentfoundation.org part, the email itself, not the
complete URL.
Thus to disable mangling of URLs, you would have to disable that whole
thing/look at the surroundings of that snippet.

> http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@documentfoundation.org/msg00453.html
>
> to get a first glue how to proceed:
> could You post the $orig_address value of URL
> http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@openoffice.org/msg13845.html ?

Very likely disc...@openoffice.org as max. 4 characters from the start
are preserved, followed by three dots, and what follows the @
disc...@openoffice.org  → disc...@openoffice.org

ciao
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Re: Problem with search by message-id / Archived-At hashes

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff,

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> You found a bug. In The Mail Archive's hash calculation, there is an
> incorrect urlib.unquote run on the message id. This is escaping the minus
> sign, and therefore calculating based on an incorrect message id.

Ah, so the small sample was big enough :-)

> Stay tuned for the re-index (probably this coming weekend) and thank you for
> the excellent bug report.

You're more than welcome - in the end it is me (and all the other
folks who requested such a feature (direkt links to archived posts)
who benefit from this :-)
I might get the thanks for adding the feature to our lists, but
without mail-archive.com it wouldn't be possible at all, so big thanks
for the great service to you!

Also thanks for the insight on the gossip-list server :-) (seems I
have been too impatient when subscribing with the gmail address and
hence double posted)

ciao
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Problem with search by message-id / Archived-At hashes

2010-11-08 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

I was trying to add the http://go.mai-archive.com/ URLs for a
mailing list, and am now facing problem, that some messages are not
reachable using those computed URLs.

While having a closer look (on that small dataset), the problematic
messages cannot be found by message-ID either.

One example is 
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg00018.html
with Message-ID:
 (as
also shown in the html source: 

The computed hash-URL (list address is t...@documentfoundation.org) is
http://go.mail-archive.com/8MwxvmGBYwNQgaxfwP9j5dosNQI=

Starting with 
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg7.html
all messages have a Archived-At Header with the corresponding URL

Those that won't work (both has as well as search by msg-id) are
http://go.mail-archive.com/TsJMcjlqBh-ohs6BB4GgkJFrG4k=
Message-ID: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg9.html

http://go.mail-archive.com/TspmHdJqJWVtjbRMHBkMk-VmbJg=
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg00011.html
Message-ID: 

http://go.mail-archive.com/Vu__8jCYa2F8dDJa969XgTW7STo=
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg00015.html
Message-ID: 

http://go.mail-archive.com/Q0ZdGgn4KrGQD5sXhhOxbZG3EBw=
http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@documentfoundation.org/msg00016.html
Message-ID: 


Working message-IDs include
Message-ID: 
Message-ID: <4cd6c1da.7080...@documentfoundation.org>
Message-ID: <4cd6c210.3070...@documentfoundation.org>
Message-ID: <4cd6c2ba.1030...@documentfoundation.org>
Message-ID: 
Message-ID: 
Message-ID: 
Message-ID: <20101107164849.218...@gmx.net>
Message-ID: 

I cannot spot anything obvious - maybe you can?
The only thing that seems different is that all non-working MSG-IDs
include a "-", but none of the working one does. Might be coincidence
though, as the dataset is so small..

ciao
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Mails with From: different from Sender not allowed

2010-11-07 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

I was quite surprised fo find out that my messages don't make it to
the gossip list, despite I'm receiving all the mails from others.

Turns out that the gossip list doesn't look for from, but the real
sender (i.e. you cannot send from alternate addresses setup in gmail,
but have to subscribe the main account)

The gossip list is the first I encountered list that is that picky…

ciao
Christian


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from different from sender not allowed

2010-11-07 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

I was quite surprised fo find out that my messages don't make it to
the gossip list, despite I'm receiving all the mails from others.

Turns out that the gossip list doesn't look for from, but the real
sender (i.e. you cannot send from alternate addresses setup in gmail,
but have to subscribe the main account)

The gossip list is the first I encountered list that is that picky…

ciao
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Re: Moving a list with outdated list:post header possible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to dev@website.openoffice.org)

2006-12-29 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff,

On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 02:32:18PM -0500, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> You are right, list-post tends to be the dominant header for
> the M-A sorting engine. It is possible to move a migrate a list
> archive, but it is kind of manual so you have to ask really nicely.

I'll try my best.

> [...] 
> In summary, make the switch, confirm the new archive, then
> drop an email to our support address (address is buried in the
> FAQ somewhere). I'll do the rest.

Thanks a lot, I guess the header is corrected now, will dig up the
support-address and ask nicely :-)

> Jeff
> 
> PS. Most lists just split their archives and deal with it. :)

Yeah, I'd be fine with the split, if the split would have been at the
same time as the list-address really changed, but having a archive at an
address nobody remembers anymore and one without the "important"
messages...

ciao
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Moving a list with outdated list:post header possible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to dev@website.openoffice.org)

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

Unfortunately the dev@website.openoffice.org is archived as
website-dev@openoffice.org 
This probably is due to the list-post: header that lists the ancient
address from the beginnings of the project.

I'd like to get some advise on how that list could be moved to
dev@website.openoffice.org 

Does it require us to modify that header first?/Will modifying it now
lose the ability to move the archived messages over?
(nobody complained about the broken header in the last years, so it
could just be left as that as well if that eases things)

To make a short story short:
Please tell me what needs to be done :-)

Thanks a lot in advance,

ciao
Christian
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