Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
+1 (including new version of startup screen). Yann On 6 February 2015 at 19:00, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-06 14:27 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org: Despite all the take this take that discussions and a potential extra simplified startup it gets into good shape now for RC2. Should we consider the backport of these changes? +1 (including new version of startup screen). Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi, 2015-02-05 17:18 GMT+01:00 Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com: Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window. I have taken liberty to update startup banner to transparent one in r64480. Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2015-02-05 17:18 GMT+01:00 Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com: Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window. I have taken liberty to update startup banner to transparent one in r64480. Despite all the take this take that discussions and a potential extra simplified startup it gets into good shape now for RC2. Should we consider the backport of these changes? Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
2015-02-06 14:27 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org: Despite all the take this take that discussions and a potential extra simplified startup it gets into good shape now for RC2. Should we consider the backport of these changes? +1 (including new version of startup screen). Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hello Madi, [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous message on the wrong topic] Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut. You are right, these vignettes are quickdirty layouts, just there to help people choose between different styles. Is there particular reason why grass is in bold and gis not? I would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the diversity. Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software. I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the serious image of this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text. Thanks for participating, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
In addition to latest changes in http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity you can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files. Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth. Yours, Vincent. Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit : Hello Madi, [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous message on the wrong topic] Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut. You are right, these vignettes are quickdirty layouts, just there to help people choose between different styles. Is there particular reason why grass is in bold and gis not? I would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the diversity. Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software. I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the serious image of this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text. Thanks for participating, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi all, 2015-02-04 9:29 GMT+01:00 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com: 2015-02-03 23:48 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org: I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). I took liberty to update also splash accordingly [1] in r64455. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg regarding to RC2. I would suggest to backport the new splash and startup banner to relbr70 and go ahead with RC2. What do you think? Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Hi Vaclav, do you know which width will finally be the welcome window ? Markus asked me to upload to the ML a set of banners, and it would be nice that it fits the window's dimensions. It will never fit perfectly. We might be able to deal with some border/padding issues but the width may differ for platforms, translations and fonts. The window may often get the same size but it is not guaranteed (and it should not be, it should rather respect the system settings, consider for example a high-res screen and system font set to 250% of usual size). 626px is the current window width according to wx widget inspector on my computer. It is hard to say if the image should be few pixels smaller. This might be a reason to prefer single color background (we can then make it transparent or color the widget background to the same color as image to get the similar effect but with our color, this might be more challenging, however). Vaclav Right now I did a try at 618x150px, 8 bit depth PNG. Thnx, Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: In addition to latest changes in http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity you can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files. Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth. Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window. Anna Yours, Vincent. Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit : Hello Madi, [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous message on the wrong topic] Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut. You are right, these vignettes are quickdirty layouts, just there to help people choose between different styles. Is there particular reason why grass is in bold and gis not? I would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the diversity. Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software. I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the serious image of this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text. Thanks for participating, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 11:18 -0500, Anna Petrášová a écrit : which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window My knowledge of wxpython is nearly nul. Do you consider a solution based on two separate transparent images, packing respectively the logo flushleftt and the text flushright in a wxframe ? (forget it if I'm completely mistaken...) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 11:18 -0500, Anna Petrášová a écrit : which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window My knowledge of wxpython is nearly nul. Do you consider a solution based on two separate transparent images, packing respectively the logo flushleftt and the text flushright in a wxframe ? I am not sure if I understand, the image will be horizontally centered on the welcome screen, but the screen can be resized (either by user, or when using different language), so the image will have then some space on both sides. In case of transparent background, the border of the image won't be so visible. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4oip9iojivyo6j/AAC0r3S35cBuLNhYC7UPV0uNa?dl=0 (forget it if I'm completely mistaken...) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: In addition to latest changes in http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity you can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files. Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth. Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up window. I like the transparent with the capital letters. :-) Doug Anna Yours, Vincent. Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit : Hello Madi, [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous message on the wrong topic] Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut. You are right, these vignettes are quickdirty layouts, just there to help people choose between different styles. Is there particular reason why grass is in bold and gis not? I would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the diversity. Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software. I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the serious image of this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text. Thanks for participating, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Moritz Lennert mlenn...@club.worldonline.be wrote: This just makes the rectangle smaller, but I still see it without the image for a while. I don't see the rectangle on Ubuntu but the splash screen is there just for a very short time comparing to how long nothing is visible. When starting GRASS for the first time after restart of computer I wait something like 7 seconds for the splash screen and splash screen is there just for 3 seconds. I guess this is not something we can change because when started for second time, the splash screen shows immediately, so the 7 seconds are for loading the wx libraries. I saw the same ratio of nothing and splash screen time on some MS Windows machines too. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi, 2015-02-03 23:48 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org: I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). I took liberty to update also splash accordingly [1] in r64455. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On 04/02/15 16:32, Martin Landa wrote: Hi, 2015-02-04 16:10 GMT+01:00 Moritz Lennert mlenn...@club.worldonline.be: Thanks ! However, I now see a white rectangle for a while, then the image I cannot reproduce that, I don't know. Here's little movie to give you an idea: http://tomahawk.ulb.ac.be/moritz/GRASS_slow_splash.ogv fills it briefly before it closes. Maybe the image is too heavy to be displayed quickly ? Right, even with `optipng -o5 file.png` [1], the splash screen has 408K. I agree that it would be good to decrease size of the file. I tried making it smaller with convert splash_screen_orig.png -resize 30% splash_screen.png This just makes the rectangle smaller, but I still see it without the image for a while. I just noticed that I see the same with GRASS6. I guess something in a recent update of my Debian machine might be causing this ? Moritz My system info: Version de GRASS: 7.1.svn GRASS SVN revision: 64455 Build date: 2015-01-04 Build platform: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu GDAL: 1.10.1 PROJ.4: 4.8.0 GEOS: 3.4.2 SQLite: 3.8.7.1 Python: 2.7.8 wxPython: 3.0.1.1 Plateforme: Linux-3.16.0-4-amd64-x86_64-with-debian-8.0 ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On 04/02/15 18:04, Vaclav Petras wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Moritz Lennert mlenn...@club.worldonline.be mailto:mlenn...@club.worldonline.be wrote: This just makes the rectangle smaller, but I still see it without the image for a while. I don't see the rectangle on Ubuntu but the splash screen is there just for a very short time comparing to how long nothing is visible. When starting GRASS for the first time after restart of computer I wait something like 7 seconds for the splash screen and splash screen is there just for 3 seconds. I guess this is not something we can change because when started for second time, the splash screen shows immediately, so the 7 seconds are for loading the wx libraries. I saw the same ratio of nothing and splash screen time on some MS Windows machines too. Would it be possible to launch some hidden process earlier (i.e. while the user looks at the startup screen) that already loads the libraries ? Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On 04/02/15 09:29, Martin Landa wrote: Hi, 2015-02-03 23:48 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org: I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). I took liberty to update also splash accordingly [1] in r64455. Thanks ! However, I now see a white rectangle for a while, then the image fills it briefly before it closes. Maybe the image is too heavy to be displayed quickly ? Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi, I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). Why this one? I thought most agreed on upper case? I don't know where you got the banner (I couldn't find the original image on the wiki), but the background white is not white (254,255,252) which was probably not intention. I found that out when I was trying to see how it would look like with transparent background, which in my opinion looks better on the welcome screen. Anna Markus [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner4.jpg It looks now a bit different due to the wording changes, though. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hello Anna, sorry for this mistake, can't really figure out where the error comes from, probably when I turned the native svg to indexed colors png, but the background should have kept pure white. I'll fix it as soon as possible. Of course removing the white bg and set it to transparent is straight too. Vincent. Le mercredi 04 février 2015 à 09:40 -0500, Anna Petrášová a écrit : On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi, I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). Why this one? I thought most agreed on upper case? I don't know where you got the banner (I couldn't find the original image on the wiki), but the background white is not white (254,255,252) which was probably not intention. I found that out when I was trying to see how it would look like with transparent background, which in my opinion looks better on the welcome screen. Anna Markus [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner4.jpg It looks now a bit different due to the wording changes, though. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi, 2015-02-04 16:10 GMT+01:00 Moritz Lennert mlenn...@club.worldonline.be: Thanks ! However, I now see a white rectangle for a while, then the image I cannot reproduce that, I don't know. fills it briefly before it closes. Maybe the image is too heavy to be displayed quickly ? Right, even with `optipng -o5 file.png` [1], the splash screen has 408K. I agree that it would be good to decrease size of the file. Martin [1] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Submitting/Docs -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi, I have taken liberty to upload #4 [1] in r64447 in order to get something changed for RC2 which is overdue (the image part of the screen should probably be filled with a white background). Markus [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner4.jpg It looks now a bit different due to the wording changes, though. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
is there a way to make a public poll online with the different versions and send the link on GRASS-dev and GRASS-user MLs, then give a sunday midnight close of poll? On 30 January 2015 at 21:23, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2015-01-30 15:13 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I fear it is an endless discussion anyway. Objectivity is hard to reach in that domain of graphic design. this is what we need to avoid. RC2 is waiting for a new splash and welcome banner. I can see three candidates [1]. Please free add new candidates, it would be nice to launch voting during weekend and than to move on to RC2 on the beginning of the next week, what do you think? Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi Vincent, 2015-01-30 17:41 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: [...] I try to make a last suggestion tonight. thanks for your hard work!!! Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Naturally, it is a blender scene rendered with Cycles engine. It is a bit tricky to use if you don't know Blender; for those familiar with Blender it involves a particle system where density is controled by vertex groups. Everything else is very basic if you are at ease with node editor (for materials). Here is the file : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_world.blend Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 18:48 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : Vincent, is this beautiful 3D-scene available for others to experiment with? Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Vincent, is this beautiful 3D-scene available for others to experiment with? Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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2015-01-30 17:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com: 2015-01-30 17:36 GMT+01:00 Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com: is there a way to make a public poll online with the different versions and send the link on GRASS-dev and GRASS-user MLs, then give a sunday midnight close of poll? wiki page for voting would be enough, I would say. Martin http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity#Voting (not open yet) Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Hi, 2015-01-30 15:13 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I fear it is an endless discussion anyway. Objectivity is hard to reach in that domain of graphic design. this is what we need to avoid. RC2 is waiting for a new splash and welcome banner. I can see three candidates [1]. Please free add new candidates, it would be nice to launch voting during weekend and than to move on to RC2 on the beginning of the next week, what do you think? Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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OK Martin, your sum up is appreciable. The first one cannot be used, in cause the license attached to the font, I am guilty not to have cleaned the wiki page in time. I'll propose a similar typeface to replace it. I try to make a last suggestion tonight. Vincent. Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 16:53 +0100, Martin Landa a écrit : Hi, 2015-01-30 15:13 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I fear it is an endless discussion anyway. Objectivity is hard to reach in that domain of graphic design. this is what we need to avoid. RC2 is waiting for a new splash and welcome banner. I can see three candidates [1]. Please free add new candidates, it would be nice to launch voting during weekend and than to move on to RC2 on the beginning of the next week, what do you think? Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 21:24 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit : I send a synthesis in a moment. There it is : http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Bye, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Thanks for doing the voting page Martin. There seem to be 4 main components to the splash screen decisions: 1) Which image to use (we seem to be narrowing that down a lot) 2) Which font (unless we are set now with Fira Sans for the sans serif font) 3) Whether to use upper or lower case 4) Where to put the text on the image For myself, I like the grassy world in color, the Fira Sans/Garramond fonts the lower case for grass gis and probably the text across the bottom of the image so the map aspect of the grassy world image can be better seen Since this combination doesn’t exist, I’m not yet sure how best to express this on the page. But all that said, and as much as I am in favor of our democratic procedures over all, I’m not sure voting will give the best graphic design. So maybe voting should be advisory, with Vincent having final say so? Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:41 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.commailto:landa.mar...@gmail.com Cc: GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Date: January 30, 2015 at 8:53:32 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, 2015-01-30 15:13 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr: I fear it is an endless discussion anyway. Objectivity is hard to reach in that domain of graphic design. this is what we need to avoid. RC2 is waiting for a new splash and welcome banner. I can see three candidates [1]. Please free add new candidates, it would be nice to launch voting during weekend and than to move on to RC2 on the beginning of the next week, what do you think? Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 18:52 +, Michael Barton a écrit : Since this combination doesn’t exist, I’m not yet sure how best to express this on the page. Yes, I was at that point of reflexion, then I decided to sum up things in a 3x5 array, it will come soon -- between two power cuts and internet blackouts due to huge snowfall here in the Alps! In the scope of a vote I found it was interesting to decline each layout on every bg image I submitted. But all that said, and as much as I am in favor of our democratic procedures over all, I’m not sure voting will give the best graphic design. So maybe voting should be advisory, with Vincent having final say so? It's kind of you Michael, but I am only bringing a modest contribution to a vaste project that does not belong to me at all... I send a synthesis in a moment. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 13:41 +0100, Moritz Lennert a écrit : On 30/01/15 13:15, Vincent Bain wrote: Trying to satisfy everyone's claims, I propose another splash screen : - capitalized GRASS GIS (boohhh ;-)) ; - centered layout with title underneath logo. It is available on the wiki page, it comes with a welcome banner too. /Beware that we might progressively turn the result into something quite flavourless.../ Even though GRASS is an acronym and so should normally be capitalized, I don't have an opinion about that. The point is it differs much from one country to another. I am not certain but I believe anglo-saxons progressively come to the _french usage_, i.e. capitalizing only the initial of an acronym when it is pronounced as a word (the case for GRASS GIS). Extract from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization While acronyms have historically been written in all-caps, British usage is moving towards capitalizing only the first letter in cases when these are pronounced as words (e.g., Unesco and Nato), reserving all-caps for initialisms (e.g., UK and USA). I fear it is an endless discussion anyway. Objectivity is hard to reach in that domain of graphic design. However, I do prefer splash4 (with modified fonts) over splash7. Did anyone plead for centralization ? The idea was just to put logo and title closer together. No Moritz, I was only trying to put text and graphics close to each other. But you are right, we can copy version 4 layout. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 29 January 2015 at 16:13, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hi, or we can vote for the current proposals: 1) upper-case http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg + http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg 2) lower-case http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg + http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_welcome_banner4.jpg From design POV I like 2), but what I don't like are lower-case letters. Would be nice to have third proposal based on 2) but with upper-case letters. Then I would be happy to start voting. +1, I also like 2), but what I don't like GRASS name in lower-case letters Martin -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 30.01.2015 14:24, Yann Chemin wrote: still +1 for http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg me too, +1 (for lower case letters as well). This splash is so very well crafted. Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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still +1 for http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg On 30 January 2015 at 17:45, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Trying to satisfy everyone's claims, I propose another splash screen : - capitalized GRASS GIS (boohhh ;-)) ; - centered layout with title underneath logo. It is available on the wiki page, it comes with a welcome banner too. /Beware that we might progressively turn the result into something quite flavourless.../ Vincent (going back to snow blowing) Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 12:35 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). While this is nicely evolving, please let's keep GIS/gis in the name. thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 30/01/15 13:15, Vincent Bain wrote: Trying to satisfy everyone's claims, I propose another splash screen : - capitalized GRASS GIS (boohhh ;-)) ; - centered layout with title underneath logo. It is available on the wiki page, it comes with a welcome banner too. /Beware that we might progressively turn the result into something quite flavourless.../ Even though GRASS is an acronym and so should normally be capitalized, I don't have an opinion about that. However, I do prefer splash4 (with modified fonts) over splash7. Did anyone plead for centralization ? The idea was just to put logo and title closer together. Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Trying to satisfy everyone's claims, I propose another splash screen : - capitalized GRASS GIS (boohhh ;-)) ; - centered layout with title underneath logo. It is available on the wiki page, it comes with a welcome banner too. /Beware that we might progressively turn the result into something quite flavourless.../ Vincent (going back to snow blowing) Le vendredi 30 janvier 2015 à 12:35 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). While this is nicely evolving, please let's keep GIS/gis in the name. thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). While this is nicely evolving, please let's keep GIS/gis in the name. thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi, 2015-01-29 16:09 GMT+01:00 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com: 2015-01-29 15:25 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com: I'm not a fan of all lower case sans serif logos and graphics. I may even like it visually but it is current trend which everybody is putting everywhere and it started to be boring. same here, would be possible to design upper-case versions of splash screen and startup banner? or we can vote for the current proposals: 1) upper-case http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg + http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg 2) lower-case http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg + http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_welcome_banner4.jpg From design POV I like 2), but what I don't like are lower-case letters. Would be nice to have third proposal based on 2) but with upper-case letters. Then I would be happy to start voting. Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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2015-01-29 15:25 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com: I'm not a fan of all lower case sans serif logos and graphics. I may even like it visually but it is current trend which everybody is putting everywhere and it started to be boring. same here, would be possible to design upper-case versions of splash screen and startup banner? Thanks! Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le jeudi 29 janvier 2015 à 09:25 -0500, Vaclav Petras a écrit : I'm not a fan of all lower case sans serif logos and graphics. I may even like it visually but it is current trend which everybody is putting everywhere and it started to be boring. Vaclav, I always try to keep cautiously away from fashions, especially in graphic design where people do nearly anything and everything... The use of sans serif typefaces for titles is not exactly something in the air. Usually typographs have heavy recurse to sans font families in order to compose titles. Serif families are more suited to what we call in french fontes de labeur, i.e. fontfaces that work well in small characters, are particularly easy to read. On the other hand their display at large sizes often results in poor quality shapes. One can argue the fact that I put text lowercase. As I said sooner it is a matter usage: our world is surrounded with initials, nearly always uppercased without caring if it's the right way or not; in french we distinguish between acronyms and initials, e.g. Unesco must be written as is, but we must write RATP, and not Ratp nor R.A.T.P... In a word, I rarely do things just for fun in this field of typography. I concede we could write Grass rather than grass, but the thing here was the G glyph in the typeface is not a success. I must admit: to be thourough, I should have proposed a hand-made typo just for the title Grass gis, but it's much time consuming. For GRASS GIS, I would imagine something more classic like the previous proposals. However, this is more a warning. For splash6, I would suggest to remove website link, version and revision. It is just a clutter. Version and revision could be hard to get and link wouldn't be clickable anyway. I agree, this was just a suggestion (sometimes splash screens are persistent, you can e.g. pick recently used files, click urls, and so on). Otherwise, I think that splash6 is better than splash5. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash6.jpg Surely, it looks more straightforward. Do you think we should try, as Moritz remarked, to fix the low-cut grass appearance. Thanks again for discussing, I like it much. Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Thanks again for all this Vicent. I too like the grassy continents in green. The white lettering on this is a nice contrast to the dark lettering on the startup too. Fira Sans is a good font. It really updates the looks of this. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 29, 2015, at 1:30 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Cc: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.commailto:landa.mar...@gmail.com Date: January 28, 2015 at 2:26:42 PM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi Martin, thank you... I just updated the wiki page to suggest a font substitution : Fira Sans is a very clean sans serif typeface, under the SIL Open Font License. I find an intersting contrast with garamond serif. Bye, V. Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 22:16 +0100, Martin Landa a écrit : Hi Vincent, 2015-01-28 15:36 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr: I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity thanks a lot! The splash screens with grass continents are absolutely great!!! I like most [1]. For the startup screen I would choose [2]. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg [2] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 29 January 2015 at 17:57, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks again for all this Vicent. I too like the grassy continents in green. The white lettering on this is a nice contrast to the dark lettering on the startup too. Fira Sans is a good font. It really updates the looks of this. +1 for http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg indeed Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 29, 2015, at 1:30 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: * From: *Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr *Cc: *grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org *To: *Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com *Date: *January 28, 2015 at 2:26:42 PM MST *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?* Hi Martin, thank you... I just updated the wiki page to suggest a font substitution : Fira Sans is a very clean sans serif typeface, under the SIL Open Font License. I find an intersting contrast with garamond serif. Bye, V. Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 22:16 +0100, Martin Landa a écrit : Hi Vincent, 2015-01-28 15:36 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity thanks a lot! The splash screens with grass continents are absolutely great!!! I like most [1]. For the startup screen I would choose [2]. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg [2] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Yes, I did not take the time to update previous tests, Fontin typeface can definitely not be used. I should update all splashes with Fira. Le jeudi 29 janvier 2015 à 14:27 +0100, Martin Landa a écrit : 2015-01-29 14:11 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I don't see font consistency between welcome banner and this splash screen (including lower-case and upper-case). With the current welcome banner proposals I would choose splash4. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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I think that is because Vincent has not yet done a startup screen with Fira Sans in lower case. MIchael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-29 14:11 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I don't see font consistency between welcome banner and this splash screen (including lower-case and upper-case). With the current welcome banner proposals I would choose splash4. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I made a greyish one (splash6) in order to: * propose something more sober (academic?); * bring to foreground the grass green color; * and display the logo the historical way. Maybe a too dull rendering ? Thanks for participating, V. Le jeudi 29 janvier 2015 à 18:15 +0530, Yann Chemin a écrit : On 29 January 2015 at 17:57, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks again for all this Vicent. I too like the grassy continents in green. The white lettering on this is a nice contrast to the dark lettering on the startup too. Fira Sans is a good font. It really updates the looks of this. +1 for http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg indeed ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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2015-01-29 14:11 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I don't see font consistency between welcome banner and this splash screen (including lower-case and upper-case). With the current welcome banner proposals I would choose splash4. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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+1 :D On 29 January 2015 at 19:28, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). Yours, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 29/01/15 14:11, Vincent Bain wrote: With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I like splash5, except for one point: I do not like the separation of the logo and the text. For me they are so linked to each other that it looks weird to see them apart. Any chance of putting them back together ? But I'll definitely won't make an issue of this... I made a greyish one (splash6) in order to: * propose something more sober (academic?); * bring to foreground the grass green color; * and display the logo the historical way. Maybe a too dull rendering ? Yes. And the parts with low-cut grass look a bit like drought to me... Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). Yours, Vincent ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 29.01.2015 15:58, Vincent Bain wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). Yes, absolutely a winner! Awesome font :-) Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Le jeudi 29 janvier 2015 à 15:23 +0100, Moritz Lennert a écrit : On 29/01/15 14:11, Vincent Bain wrote: With potential tweaking, would this version (splash5) bring all you developers to a kind of consensus ? I like splash5, except for one point: I do not like the separation of the logo and the text. For me they are so linked to each other that it looks weird to see them apart. Any chance of putting them back together ? It's essentially a matter of page settings... squaring the circle. What looks balanced to ones will look ugly to others. I try to think of a different layout. Yes. And the parts with low-cut grass look a bit like drought to me... I find it weird too, but definitely no time to set up again a new Blender scene. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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I'm not a fan of all lower case sans serif logos and graphics. I may even like it visually but it is current trend which everybody is putting everywhere and it started to be boring. For GRASS GIS, I would imagine something more classic like the previous proposals. However, this is more a warning. For splash6, I would suggest to remove website link, version and revision. It is just a clutter. Version and revision could be hard to get and link wouldn't be clickable anyway. Otherwise, I think that splash6 is better than splash5. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash5.jpg http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_splash6.jpg On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Nikos Alexandris n...@nikosalexandris.net wrote: On 29.01.2015 15:58, Vincent Bain wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 17:42 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_ alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Sorry Nikos, I missed your suggestion. Perhaps it's an opportunity to bet on a similar output, again for consistency (see attached file). Yes, absolutely a winner! Awesome font :-) Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi Vaclav, am I right that you have already an updated welcome screen on your own machine? Since changing the graphics therein is rather easy would you mind to share a diff? Hi Markus, I posted two different startup screens so far, one with new logo and one with a new layout (I posted screenshot for both, but diff just for the later). I'm not sure what you want to do and which one do want. I would like to commit the new layout to trunk, should I do that now? I would also be happy to see Markus M's suggestion implemented as alternative startup. Both could be then selected via flag as usual. Thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Jan 28, 2015 6:37 PM, Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi Vaclav, am I right that you have already an updated welcome screen on your own machine? Since changing the graphics therein is rather easy would you mind to share a diff? Hi Markus, I posted two different startup screens so far, one with new logo and one with a new layout (I posted screenshot for both, but diff just for the later). I'm not sure what you want to do and which one do want. I would like to commit the new layout to trunk, should I do that now? Yes, makes it much easier to try and discuss. Markus I would also be happy to see Markus M's suggestion implemented as alternative startup. Both could be then selected via flag as usual. Thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Blumentrath, Stefan stefan.blumentr...@nina.no wrote: Just a word of caution: Not long ago (2011 ( http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2011-August/015791.html) or 2013 ( http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-May/026008.html)) the QGIS-project had a (long) logo discussion too. Quite some resources were used (in terms of developer- and user-time) on creating logo proposals and polls (a kind of logo-contest in several rounds) as well as discussing proposals in several threads. At the end – if I am not mistaken – the project ended up with using more or less the old logo… Thanks for the warning. I agree that we should not spend much resources on it but we should spend some. It is impotent to note the difference to QGIS 2.0 logo change. We are not changing the logo but just the design of splash and startup screen (and perhaps layer manager?). These are things which can change anytime but before release it is a good time to change it and in fact we are not changing graphical things often, so it is worth to think this through. Anyway, I don't think that we need to discuss Vincent's cleaned version of the logo (it's just a technical change). For the splash screen we need something nice but I think it should be something simple too because the time you actually see splash is short. For this reason I consider the world with grass all over as unnecessary complicated. The startup screen is more important I think but on the other hand, there should be just something very simple. Simple think will not obsolete and will not get old so fast. To the suggestions at the wiki, if I remember correctly we can have both, transparent for light and white for dark, the only question is how to decide (in Python) that it is dark (e.g., compare brightness of system text and background). So we can try that and change it later if it does not work. Overall, I like all Vincent's suggestions at http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity and once Vincent feels confident (and technical issues such as font are solved) I would go ahead and vote (if it is even necessary to vote, I don't know). Thanks Vincent and others, it looks great so far! Vaclav Cheers Stefan *From:* grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Paulo van Breugel *Sent:* 28. januar 2015 16:48 *To:* Michael Barton *Cc:* GRASS developers grass-developers *Subject:* Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: *From: *Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr *To: *grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org *Date: *January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?* Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi Vincent, 2015-01-28 15:36 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity thanks a lot! The splash screens with grass continents are absolutely great!!! I like most [1]. For the startup screen I would choose [2]. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg [2] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi Martin, thank you... I just updated the wiki page to suggest a font substitution : Fira Sans is a very clean sans serif typeface, under the SIL Open Font License. I find an intersting contrast with garamond serif. Bye, V. Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 22:16 +0100, Martin Landa a écrit : Hi Vincent, 2015-01-28 15:36 GMT+01:00 Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr: I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity thanks a lot! The splash screens with grass continents are absolutely great!!! I like most [1]. For the startup screen I would choose [2]. Martin [1] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/images/GRASSGIS_splash4.jpg [2] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:GRASSGIS_welcome_banner1.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Voting is fine. However, only 1 of the images fits the informational logic I suggested. People might first want to disagree with this logic or propose other images that fit it before we vote. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Paulo van Breugel p.vanbreu...@gmail.commailto:p.vanbreu...@gmail.com wrote: Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edumailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.eduhttp://csdc.asu.edu/ On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: *From: *Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr *To: *grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org *Date: *January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?* Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 28.01.2015 16:36, Vincent Bain wrote: Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity The ones @ http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:NikosA#Ideas_for_an_alternative_GRASS-Wiki_logogram are for the Wiki... !? If anyone is interested. Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
Just a word of caution: Not long ago (2011 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2011-August/015791.html) or 2013 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-May/026008.html)) the QGIS-project had a (long) logo discussion too. Quite some resources were used (in terms of developer- and user-time) on creating logo proposals and polls (a kind of logo-contest in several rounds) as well as discussing proposals in several threads. At the end – if I am not mistaken – the project ended up with using more or less the old logo… Cheers Stefan From: grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paulo van Breugel Sent: 28. januar 2015 16:48 To: Michael Barton Cc: GRASS developers grass-developers Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edumailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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For QGIS is it more difficult as they change their splash screen every year or so, with each major release. GRASS only does it once every decade ;-) Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Blumentrath, Stefan stefan.blumentr...@nina.nomailto:stefan.blumentr...@nina.no wrote: Just a word of caution: Not long ago (2011 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2011-August/015791.html) or 2013 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-May/026008.html)) the QGIS-project had a (long) logo discussion too. Quite some resources were used (in terms of developer- and user-time) on creating logo proposals and polls (a kind of logo-contest in several rounds) as well as discussing proposals in several threads. At the end – if I am not mistaken – the project ended up with using more or less the old logo… Cheers Stefan From: grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paulo van Breugel Sent: 28. januar 2015 16:48 To: Michael Barton Cc: GRASS developers grass-developers Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edumailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.eduhttp://csdc.asu.edu/ On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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OK, Stephan, I hear your advice. Yes, eventhough it may look a trivial or childish task, achieving a mastered output actually takes time and requires a minimum of care. So, trying to satisfy everyone's taste/preference/fundamental point of view/or whatever/ will probably be challenging... When someone submits a piece of code, the coding style is not much discussed, but the community is allowed to change it if definitely unsatisfied. We could try to go ahead with one proposal (say, one that satisfies at least a bunch of most commited people), and adapt it at the next release (or in 10 years ;-) ? As Moritz mentions in his revision, there is a problem with a font family (Fontin). I am looking for an substitute. Yours, Vincent Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 16:16 +, Blumentrath, Stefan a écrit : Just a word of caution: Not long ago (2011 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2011-August/015791.html) or 2013 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-May/026008.html)) the QGIS-project had a (long) logo discussion too. Quite some resources were used (in terms of developer- and user-time) on creating logo proposals and polls (a kind of logo-contest in several rounds) as well as discussing proposals in several threads. At the end – if I am not mistaken – the project ended up with using more or less the old logo… Cheers Stefan From: grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:grass-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paulo van Breugel Sent: 28. januar 2015 16:48 To: Michael Barton Cc: GRASS developers grass-developers Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Good initiative.. For a decision to be taken (if there are enough quality proposals for the tagline, logo and the splash screen), would it be an idea to invite GRASS users to vote (as was already proposed before - so perhaps something is already in place)? A simple/easy way could be a poll on the GRASS GIS Google+ page, and people could be invited via the email list. Anyway,just though it could be nice to get 'the user community' to pick from a selection. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: Thanks Vincent. This is conceptually along the lines I was thinking, but better thought out and presented by you. The image on the splash screen should follow the same logic: display the logo and tag line, use the color green, and visually reinforce the message in the tag line. So far, the tag lines proposed have all included the concepts of GIS or digital mapping (geospatial technology) and universality (“world, “everyone). Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www:http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton,http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:36 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 28, 2015 at 7:36:41 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Hi, I packed most of the graphical tests I did last week on a wiki page. I tried to initiate a place (very rough yet) where we can further set up things concerning graphical identity. Hope this helps. http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity Vincent. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Jan 28, 2015 6:37 PM, Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi Vaclav, am I right that you have already an updated welcome screen on your own machine? Since changing the graphics therein is rather easy would you mind to share a diff? Hi Markus, I posted two different startup screens so far, one with new logo and one with a new layout (I posted screenshot for both, but diff just for the later). I'm not sure what you want to do and which one do want. I would like to commit the new layout to trunk, should I do that now? Yes, makes it much easier to try and discuss. Done in 64345. http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/64345 Markus I would also be happy to see Markus M's suggestion implemented as alternative startup. Both could be then selected via flag as usual. Thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi Vaclav, am I right that you have already an updated welcome screen on your own machine? Since changing the graphics therein is rather easy would you mind to share a diff? I would also be happy to see Markus M's suggestion implemented as alternative startup. Both could be then selected via flag as usual. Thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Sure. A poll is fine. I like the grass + mountain picture too. But the splash screen image also needs to convey information about the GRASS “brand” IMHO. This is why I like the grass/map better. I can see it being used in a variety of contexts beyond the splash screen. Cheers Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 25, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.commailto:yche...@gmail.com wrote: OK maybe we can open a poll somewhere with all these pictures so far, and ask people to give a vote by sending the link to grass-* ML. I find the small grass in fore front of the mountain a very sweet picture. Nice pic Vincent. On 25 January 2015 at 22:21, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edumailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: The blade of grass with blurred mountain background is pretty and classy. But I still think that the one with grass growing into the world map conveys the best message, as well as being classy too. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262tel:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130tel:480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671tel:480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709tel:480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.eduhttp://csdc.asu.edu/ On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:42 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Cc: Yann Chemin yann.che...@gmail.commailto:yann.che...@gmail.com, GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.orgmailto:nete...@osgeo.org Date: January 25, 2015 at 7:42:07 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Thank you all for reactions. I fear I sort of ran out of spare time to keep making proposals right now. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 08:05 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. if it can wait till next thursday, I can do that. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.commailto:yche...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? Nope, up here the ground is snow capped all over. I have some personal photos but not actually adapted (for the record see attached file -- very personal try) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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The blade of grass with blurred mountain background is pretty and classy. But I still think that the one with grass growing into the world map conveys the best message, as well as being classy too. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:42 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Cc: Yann Chemin yann.che...@gmail.commailto:yann.che...@gmail.com, GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.orgmailto:nete...@osgeo.org Date: January 25, 2015 at 7:42:07 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Thank you all for reactions. I fear I sort of ran out of spare time to keep making proposals right now. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 08:05 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. if it can wait till next thursday, I can do that. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.commailto:yche...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? Nope, up here the ground is snow capped all over. I have some personal photos but not actually adapted (for the record see attached file -- very personal try) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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OK maybe we can open a poll somewhere with all these pictures so far, and ask people to give a vote by sending the link to grass-* ML. I find the small grass in fore front of the mountain a very sweet picture. Nice pic Vincent. On 25 January 2015 at 22:21, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: The blade of grass with blurred mountain background is pretty and classy. But I still think that the one with grass growing into the world map conveys the best message, as well as being classy too. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:42 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: *From: *Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr *Cc: *Yann Chemin yann.che...@gmail.com, GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org *To: *Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org *Date: *January 25, 2015 at 7:42:07 AM MST *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?* Thank you all for reactions. I fear I sort of ran out of spare time to keep making proposals right now. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 08:05 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. if it can wait till next thursday, I can do that. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? Nope, up here the ground is snow capped all over. I have some personal photos but not actually adapted (for the record see attached file -- very personal try) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi, Out of the office till wednesday, I'll try to work on a wiki page when I'm back. I like the idea of a poll. V. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 17:27 +, Michael Barton a écrit : Sure. A poll is fine. I like the grass + mountain picture too. But the splash screen image also needs to convey information about the GRASS “brand” IMHO. This is why I like the grass/map better. I can see it being used in a variety of contexts beyond the splash screen. Cheers Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 25, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: OK maybe we can open a poll somewhere with all these pictures so far, and ask people to give a vote by sending the link to grass-* ML. I find the small grass in fore front of the mountain a very sweet picture. Nice pic Vincent. On 25 January 2015 at 22:21, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: The blade of grass with blurred mountain background is pretty and classy. But I still think that the one with grass growing into the world map conveys the best message, as well as being classy too. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:42 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr Cc: Yann Chemin yann.che...@gmail.com, GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org Date: January 25, 2015 at 7:42:07 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? Thank you all for reactions. I fear I sort of ran out of spare time to keep making proposals right now. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 08:05 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. if it can wait till next thursday, I can do that. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? Nope, up here the ground is snow capped all over. I have some personal photos but not actually adapted (for the record see attached file -- very personal try) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Thank you all for reactions. I fear I sort of ran out of spare time to keep making proposals right now. Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 08:05 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. if it can wait till next thursday, I can do that. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? Nope, up here the ground is snow capped all over. I have some personal photos but not actually adapted (for the record see attached file -- very personal try) V. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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That's great! I've been trying to find a georeferenced historic map and see what I could do with it. So far, the oldest one I've found is Moll 1736. I finally got it into GRASS and started doing overlays of global maps and found out the georeferencing is not accurate. Even if it was, your's is better. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? Have a good week end ;-) V. Le samedi 24 janvier 2015 à 12:32 +0530, Yann Chemin a écrit : Hi Vincent, no time at all, unfortunately, please go ahead if you can. Yann On 24 January 2015 at 12:11, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: This was the idea I had when talking about Cassini's globe but it requires a bit of time to set up a correct layout. Perhaps an idea with grass texture, let's se if I can do it this morning. Yann, did you have the time to test map morphing ? Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 21:43 +, Michael Barton a écrit : I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Almost suggests changing the logo phrase to: Growing advanced geospatial technologies worldwide OR Growing a global community for advanced geospatial technologies Cheers Micjhael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? Have a good week end ;-) V. Le samedi 24 janvier 2015 à 12:32 +0530, Yann Chemin a écrit : Hi Vincent, no time at all, unfortunately, please go ahead if you can. Yann On 24 January 2015 at 12:11, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: This was the idea I had when talking about Cassini's globe but it requires a bit of time to set up a correct layout. Perhaps an idea with grass texture, let's se if I can do it this morning. Yann, did you have the time to test map morphing ? Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 21:43 +, Michael Barton a écrit : I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Yes the grassy grass is definitely splashy +1 for your first splash Vincent On Jan 25, 2015 9:26 AM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: I like the grassy one better too. A nice visual metaphor. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev I still like the first attempt better (grass as background). I don't say this one is not interesting or original, but it's not easy to understand, especially when the splash screen is not visible long. I don't think we have to have something geospatial there. I added my not very refined attempt to not just criticize but I still like the grass background better. Anna splash.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi please let's put all the suggestions into a wiki page. And also invite grass-user to send suggestions. Markus On Jan 25, 2015 5:42 AM, Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: Yes the grassy grass is definitely splashy +1 for your first splash Vincent Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? I think I like the first one because the grass there is somehow organized, so we need a picture taken when wind was blowing or something like that. On Jan 25, 2015 9:26 AM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: I like the grassy one better too. A nice visual metaphor. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev I still like the first attempt better (grass as background). I don't say this one is not interesting or original, but it's not easy to understand, especially when the splash screen is not visible long. I don't think we have to have something geospatial there. I added my not very refined attempt to not just criticize but I still like the grass background better. Anna splash.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev I still like the first attempt better (grass as background). I don't say this one is not interesting or original, but it's not easy to understand, especially when the splash screen is not visible long. I don't think we have to have something geospatial there. I added my not very refined attempt to not just criticize but I still like the grass background better. Anna ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: Yes the grassy grass is definitely splashy +1 for your first splash Vincent Can you get a libre picture with grass? There are some online but not good enough. Is some longer grass growing at this time where you are? Can you take a photo? I think I like the first one because the grass there is somehow organized, so we need a picture taken when wind was blowing or something like that. On Jan 25, 2015 9:26 AM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: I like the grassy one better too. A nice visual metaphor. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev I still like the first attempt better (grass as background). I don't say this one is not interesting or original, but it's not easy to understand, especially when the splash screen is not visible long. I don't think we have to have something geospatial there. I added my not very refined attempt to not just criticize but I still like the grass background better. Anna splash.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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I like the grassy one better too. A nice visual metaphor. Michael C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Anna Petrášová kratocha...@gmail.commailto:kratocha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.orgmailto:nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr wrote: Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? So cool! :) Have a good week end ;-) Thanks so much for your work, Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev I still like the first attempt better (grass as background). I don't say this one is not interesting or original, but it's not easy to understand, especially when the splash screen is not visible long. I don't think we have to have something geospatial there. I added my not very refined attempt to not just criticize but I still like the grass background better. Anna splash.jpg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Snowy day, stuck at the office : here's my latest attempt to find an original solution suitable for your wishes... http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_4.tar.gz looks more like a GIS software this way, no ? Have a good week end ;-) V. Le samedi 24 janvier 2015 à 12:32 +0530, Yann Chemin a écrit : Hi Vincent, no time at all, unfortunately, please go ahead if you can. Yann On 24 January 2015 at 12:11, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: This was the idea I had when talking about Cassini's globe but it requires a bit of time to set up a correct layout. Perhaps an idea with grass texture, let's se if I can do it this morning. Yann, did you have the time to test map morphing ? Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 21:43 +, Michael Barton a écrit : I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 23.01.2015 15:18, Vincent Bain wrote: Thanks for theses feedbacks, Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 14:41 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. certainly, I agree the image should have a minimum symbolic weight. Can't tell if I have the time to propose sth quickly. Dear all, the discussion is very exciting. The new release should absolutely debut with a new look (splash/welcome). Is the message locked? What about Advanced Geospatial Technologies for Everyone? Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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An informal poll of the grad students in my lab this morning. All said “Wow”. Very professional! I like the idea of GRASS morphing into a map of some kind. Also like Vaclav’s tweaks to make the start up a little easier to navigate—2 list choice controls with relevant buttons next to them and simplified text. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:48 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.orgmailto:nete...@osgeo.org Cc: GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Date: January 23, 2015 at 6:41:27 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr wrote: A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) Thanks for your efforts! Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.commailto:yche...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 January 2015 at 22:56, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edumailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: An informal poll of the grad students in my lab this morning. All said “Wow”. Very professional! I like the idea of GRASS morphing into a map of some kind. Also like Vaclav’s tweaks to make the start up a little easier to navigate—2 list choice controls with relevant buttons next to them and simplified text. +1 for those to be implemented, if Vincent is too busy, I can have a throw at morphing a map in it. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice: 480-965-6262tel:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130tel:480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671tel:480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709tel:480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.eduhttp://csdc.asu.edu/, http://shesc.asu.eduhttp://shesc.asu.edu/ http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:48 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.orgmailto:nete...@osgeo.org Cc: GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org To: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr Date: January 23, 2015 at 6:41:27 AM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.frmailto:b...@toraval.fr wrote: A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) Thanks for your efforts! Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 23 January 2015 at 22:56, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: An informal poll of the grad students in my lab this morning. All said “Wow”. Very professional! I like the idea of GRASS morphing into a map of some kind. Also like Vaclav’s tweaks to make the start up a little easier to navigate—2 list choice controls with relevant buttons next to them and simplified text. +1 for those to be implemented, if Vincent is too busy, I can have a throw at morphing a map in it. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:48 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: *From: *Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org *Cc: *GRASS developers list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org *To: *Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr *Date: *January 23, 2015 at 6:41:27 AM MST *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?* On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) Thanks for your efforts! Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www:http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) Thanks for your efforts! Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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... I like that grass, it splashes ... On 23 January 2015 at 17:15, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) V Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 07:00 +, Michael Barton a écrit : On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:49 PM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 22, 2015 at 11:28:47 PM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? I've followed this discussion as closely as I could but might have missed some steps..., so to put it in a nutshell: * Right now, for the release, we propose: - a new splash with a neutral/temporary/free banner image (e.g. grass); - for the welcome screen, I make up a simple banner according to Vaclav's suggestion i.e. small GRASS logo+motto on transparent bg (or white bg to handle dark windows desktop themes). * Later on I can work on the historical map suggestion --or any other idea. I can do it between today and sunday. Sounds good to me. Michael ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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A second proposal for splash screen and welcome banner (adapted to dark backgrounds) you can pick there : http://lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash_2.tar.gz The carex image is in the public domain http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carexpraegracilis0.jpg Fonts are free (see previous post for Exljbris Fontin) or OFL (for the exquisite EB Garamond by Georg Duffner). Those who wish to trim things on the source file, feel free to ask... especially for colors tweaking ;-) V Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 07:00 +, Michael Barton a écrit : On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:49 PM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr To: grass-dev grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Date: January 22, 2015 at 11:28:47 PM MST Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7? I've followed this discussion as closely as I could but might have missed some steps..., so to put it in a nutshell: * Right now, for the release, we propose: - a new splash with a neutral/temporary/free banner image (e.g. grass); - for the welcome screen, I make up a simple banner according to Vaclav's suggestion i.e. small GRASS logo+motto on transparent bg (or white bg to handle dark windows desktop themes). * Later on I can work on the historical map suggestion --or any other idea. I can do it between today and sunday. Sounds good to me. Michael ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi Vincent, no time at all, unfortunately, please go ahead if you can. Yann On 24 January 2015 at 12:11, Vincent Bain b...@toraval.fr wrote: This was the idea I had when talking about Cassini's globe but it requires a bit of time to set up a correct layout. Perhaps an idea with grass texture, let's se if I can do it this morning. Yann, did you have the time to test map morphing ? Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 21:43 +, Michael Barton a écrit : I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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This was the idea I had when talking about Cassini's globe but it requires a bit of time to set up a correct layout. Perhaps an idea with grass texture, let's se if I can do it this morning. Yann, did you have the time to test map morphing ? Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 21:43 +, Michael Barton a écrit : I thought about the historical map wrapped around a globe or perhaps redone in 3D. But it would probably be too small to make it clear what the viewer was seeing. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution Social Change Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 USA voice:480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Barton michael.bar...@asu.edu wrote: If we want to do something from GRASS instead of something historic, I bet Markus has a LOT of cool maps floating around that we might be able to use. Here is a lot of material: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/ -- click images to see more or pick from the Gallery menu Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Jan 23, 2015 4:41 AM, Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com wrote: If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1? Definitely for 7.0.0. A new major release must come with a new splash screen. Thanks Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Hi, 2015-01-23 4:41 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com: Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into something volumetric? So, from old to new? If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1? +1 Even hard freeze, this change is somehow important (from marketing POV). So please go ahead, ideally before RC2. [...] Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On 23 January 2015 at 13:09, Yann Chemin yche...@gmail.com wrote: ... I like that grass, it splashes ... I like too -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Thanks for theses feedbacks, Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 14:41 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : Do you see a chance to morph the true grass into a map (from left to right or so)? IMHO we need to somehow communicate that spatial data are involved. certainly, I agree the image should have a minimum symbolic weight. Can't tell if I have the time to propose sth quickly. ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris n...@nikosalexandris.net wrote: Dear Michael, while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas GRASS can do stuff? Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is, what it can do. Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into something volumetric? So, from old to new? If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1? I would like to see Vincent's grass (with CC BY image and perhaps an easy to get font) as splash and then the simple one with logo with white or transparent backgroud but the smaller version I posted (where image height is just the height of GRASS GIS and motto texts). Vincent, or some other artists, are you able to work on that, or some other suggestions? With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with ISIS. I'm not sure how many users it is targeting but we have this functionality now, so I would keep it. Vaclav http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner.png?rev=52438 http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner_isis.png?rev=57090 Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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Happy to help for ISIS banner modification, we first need a main banner though. What are the working options so far? Is there a consensus on something we can submit now as a first try? I am happy to give a +1 to Vincent's banner most people preferred (see earlier emails), and we modify it once or twice according to reactions on this discussion. Comments anyone? On 23 January 2015 at 09:11, Vaclav Petras wenzesl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris n...@nikosalexandris.net wrote: Dear Michael, while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas GRASS can do stuff? Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is, what it can do. Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into something volumetric? So, from old to new? If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1? I would like to see Vincent's grass (with CC BY image and perhaps an easy to get font) as splash and then the simple one with logo with white or transparent backgroud but the smaller version I posted (where image height is just the height of GRASS GIS and motto texts). Vincent, or some other artists, are you able to work on that, or some other suggestions? With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with ISIS. I'm not sure how many users it is targeting but we have this functionality now, so I would keep it. Vaclav http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner.png?rev=52438 http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner_isis.png?rev=57090 Markus ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
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I've followed this discussion as closely as I could but might have missed some steps..., so to put it in a nutshell: * Right now, for the release, we propose: - a new splash with a neutral/temporary/free banner image (e.g. grass); - for the welcome screen, I make up a simple banner according to Vaclav's suggestion i.e. small GRASS logo+motto on transparent bg (or white bg to handle dark windows desktop themes). * Later on I can work on the historical map suggestion --or any other idea. I can do it between today and sunday. With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with ISIS. What is ISIS ? ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
