Re: [GRASS-dev] updates needed on wingrass webpage?

2014-08-20 Thread Markus Neteler
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:
...
> The problem is that what is in installer does not fit with what is online,
> so it is hard to create instructions for multiple platforms since the name
> of location will be different if you download file using installer on MS
> Windows and if you download manually on any platform.
>
> And then we are also referring to this sample location in manuals in some
> way. I recently stepped into this issue too when writing documentation for
> testing framework.

Right. So we should develop a naming scheme here which permits to have
sample locations of different datasets for different GRASS versions.
Maybe we use the one we have for NC or maybe there are better
suggestions. The one for Spearfish is confusing.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] updates needed on wingrass webpage?

2014-08-20 Thread Vaclav Petras
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> > Finally, the LOCATION that is provided with WinGRASS is called
> NORTH_CAROLINA
> > which is different from nc_spm_08 for GRASS6 and nc_spm_08_grass7 for
> GRASS7.
>
> You mean in the installer?
>
> > This is not a huge issue but users who may already have NORTH_CAROLINA
> from previous installs
> > and skip downloading it for WinGRASS7 may be surprised that the vector
> data don't work.
> > Should the name of this location be changed (preferably to
> nc_spm_08_grass7) to indicate
> > that this is a different data set in terms of vector data format?
>
> I don't see that on
> http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/binary/mswindows/native/#Sample_Data
>
> Please let me/us know where to fix that issue.
>


It's the installer:

http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/mswindows/GRASS-Installer.nsi.tmpl#L1034

Here is what is used for NC and Spearfish:

label
file
fancy name
tared dir name
created location name

North Carolina (Wake County) Data Set
nc_spm_08_grass7.tar.gz
North Carolina (Wake County)
nc_spm_08_grass7
North_Carolina

South Dakota (Spearfish County) Data Set
spearfish_grass60data-0.3.tar.gz
South Dakota (Spearfish County)
spearfish60
Spearfish60

The problem is that what is in installer does not fit with what is online,
so it is hard to create instructions for multiple platforms since the name
of location will be different if you download file using installer on MS
Windows and if you download manually on any platform.

And then we are also referring to this sample location in manuals in some
way. I recently stepped into this issue too when writing documentation for
testing framework.
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Re: [GRASS-dev] updates needed on wingrass webpage?

2014-08-19 Thread Markus Neteler
Helena,

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:31 AM, Helena Mitasova  wrote:
> As I am going through the class instructions I am wondering whether the text
> on the page from which the students download WinGRASS needs updates:
> http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/binary/mswindows/native/
>
> specifically - do we still consider WinGRASS an experimental project? We have 
> been using it in courses for couple years now.

Right, I have rephrased that and made also other minor updates for
winGRASS 7 in that README.html

> Also, is the binary still built on Windows Vista as indicated in the text?

I guess not, taken out.

> There is also a link to
> http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/WinGRASS_Current_Status
> which mostly includes references to 6.4, so this may be confusing to users 
> installing GRASS7.
> If this wiki page is not maintained perhaps the link should be removed.

I have turned it into a new landing page:

http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/WinGRASS_Current_Status
-> http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/WinGRASS_6_Current_Status (the old
page with some updates)
-> http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/WinGRASS_7_Current_Status (new)

(@all: Feel free to improve. Hey, it is a Wiki)

> Finally, the LOCATION that is provided with WinGRASS is called NORTH_CAROLINA
> which is different from nc_spm_08 for GRASS6 and nc_spm_08_grass7 for GRASS7.

You mean in the installer?

> This is not a huge issue but users who may already have NORTH_CAROLINA from 
> previous installs
> and skip downloading it for WinGRASS7 may be surprised that the vector data 
> don't work.
> Should the name of this location be changed (preferably to nc_spm_08_grass7) 
> to indicate
> that this is a different data set in terms of vector data format?

I don't see that on
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/binary/mswindows/native/#Sample_Data

Please let me/us know where to fix that issue.

Markus
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[GRASS-dev] updates needed on wingrass webpage?

2014-08-18 Thread Helena Mitasova
As I am going through the class instructions I am wondering whether the text 
on the page from which the students download WinGRASS needs updates:
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/binary/mswindows/native/

specifically - do we still consider WinGRASS an experimental project? We have 
been using it in courses for couple years now.
Also, is the binary still built on Windows Vista as indicated in the text?

There is also a link to 
http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/WinGRASS_Current_Status
which mostly includes references to 6.4, so this may be confusing to users 
installing GRASS7.
If this wiki page is not maintained perhaps the link should be removed.

Finally, the LOCATION that is provided with WinGRASS is called NORTH_CAROLINA
which is different from nc_spm_08 for GRASS6 and nc_spm_08_grass7 for GRASS7.
This is not a huge issue but users who may already have NORTH_CAROLINA from 
previous installs 
and skip downloading it for WinGRASS7 may be surprised that the vector data 
don't work.
Should the name of this location be changed (preferably to nc_spm_08_grass7) to 
indicate
that this is a different data set in terms of vector data format?

Thank you, Helena  

Helena Mitasova
Professor
Department of Marine, Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
2800 Faucette Drive, Rm. 1125 Jordan Hall
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
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