Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 12/12/19 10:51, Martin Landa wrote:

Hi Moritz,

čt 12. 12. 2019 v 10:13 odesílatel Moritz Lennert
 napsal:

- IIUC, most of the budget you are asking for is actually for
promotional material (stickers, magnets) that are only indirectly linked
to the code sprint, or ? I would therefore suggest to separate the two


make sense to me. In reality you are suggesting two separated voting
procedures, right?


Well, don't know if we really need two voting procedures, or just one 
vote combining the two expenses...





requests to make that more apparent. Your actual "sprinting" costs are
<60€, or ?


Yes, only one dinner, two lunches + small food.


No beer ??? ;-)




- In the report, you write: "We spent several hours over the course of
the sprint discussing different alternatives and finding a best way to
implement the one we have chosen." I see that everything has been
documented in detail on the relevant wiki page:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/New_Startup#GRASSGISCommunitySprintPrague2019,
but would it be possible summarize the general philosophy on the mailing
list ? I think this is an important part of GRASS GIS and discussion
should be larger.


Sure, on the other hand we cannot discuss it forever :-) We have
prepared step-by-step roadmap, see [1]. No big revolution, just small
but important steps. Feel free to comment!



Yes, I saw that (that's why I already included the same link ;-) ), but 
it is very detailed and so I'm not sure I really understand the big 
picture of the general philosophy you have decided. On the wiki page we 
started out by discussing two general options: "Keep current paradigm, 
but make contact easier" or "Change paradigm" (e.g. "Open into a 
predefined lat-long location but give information message"). IIUC, your 
roadmap follows the first option, or ?


There's just too many trees for me to see the forest ;-)

Moritz


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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

čt 12. 12. 2019 v 10:20 odesílatel Luca Delucchi  napsal:
> > P.S. Maybe we can also decide on a general policy of using
> > nextcloud.osgeo.org, instead of gdrive ?
> >
>
> yes, I fully support this! We could ask to the manager to create a
> GRASS group and folder

+1

Than I can upload all (almost) sprints (having on my gdrive). Ma

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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Landa
Hi Moritz,

čt 12. 12. 2019 v 10:13 odesílatel Moritz Lennert
 napsal:
> - IIUC, most of the budget you are asking for is actually for
> promotional material (stickers, magnets) that are only indirectly linked
> to the code sprint, or ? I would therefore suggest to separate the two

make sense to me. In reality you are suggesting two separated voting
procedures, right?

> requests to make that more apparent. Your actual "sprinting" costs are
> <60€, or ?

Yes, only one dinner, two lunches + small food.

> - In the report, you write: "We spent several hours over the course of
> the sprint discussing different alternatives and finding a best way to
> implement the one we have chosen." I see that everything has been
> documented in detail on the relevant wiki page:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/New_Startup#GRASSGISCommunitySprintPrague2019,
> but would it be possible summarize the general philosophy on the mailing
> list ? I think this is an important part of GRASS GIS and discussion
> should be larger.

Sure, on the other hand we cannot discuss it forever :-) We have
prepared step-by-step roadmap, see [1]. No big revolution, just small
but important steps. Feel free to comment!

Martin

[1] 
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/New_Startup#GRASSGISCommunitySprintPrague2019

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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 12/12/19 10:30, Moritz Lennert wrote:

On 12/12/19 10:19, Luca Delucchi wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 10:14, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:


P.S. Maybe we can also decide on a general policy of using
nextcloud.osgeo.org, instead of gdrive ?



yes, I fully support this! We could ask to the manager to create a
GRASS group and folder


They already exist, and there is a special GRASS PSC folder in which
there is an ACCOUNTING folder...



I have just created a folder for the accounting year 2019-2020 (linked 
to the OSGeo-EU accounting because our bank account is hosted by them) 
and uploaded the invoices from the Prague sprint.


Moritz

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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 12/12/19 10:19, Luca Delucchi wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 10:14, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:


P.S. Maybe we can also decide on a general policy of using
nextcloud.osgeo.org, instead of gdrive ?



yes, I fully support this! We could ask to the manager to create a
GRASS group and folder


They already exist, and there is a special GRASS PSC folder in which 
there is an ACCOUNTING folder...


;-)

Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Luca Delucchi
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 10:14, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
>
> P.S. Maybe we can also decide on a general policy of using
> nextcloud.osgeo.org, instead of gdrive ?
>

yes, I fully support this! We could ask to the manager to create a
GRASS group and folder

> Moritz
>

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Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Moritz Lennert
P.S. Maybe we can also decide on a general policy of using 
nextcloud.osgeo.org, instead of gdrive ?


Moritz

On 12/12/19 10:10, Moritz Lennert wrote:

Hi Martin !

On 12/12/19 09:33, Martin Landa wrote:

Dear PSC,

first of all I would like to thank to the all participants of recently
organized community sprint in Prague [1]. We spent 5 nice days
fulfilled by GRASS hacking:-) See related reports [2].

Based on that we collected all expenses [3]. The budget is relatively
minimalistic since no travel/accommodation grants have been requested.

In this regard I would like to ask GRASS PSC to cover all expenses [3;
Reimbursements tab] (280.24 EUR in overall). Scanned bills [4].

If no objection we could start voting (in *different thread*).


No objections on my side. Rather a big thank you for having organized this !

Two questions though, one concerning budget, the other concerning content:

- IIUC, most of the budget you are asking for is actually for
promotional material (stickers, magnets) that are only indirectly linked
to the code sprint, or ? I would therefore suggest to separate the two
requests to make that more apparent. Your actual "sprinting" costs are
<60€, or ?

- In the report, you write: "We spent several hours over the course of
the sprint discussing different alternatives and finding a best way to
implement the one we have chosen." I see that everything has been
documented in detail on the relevant wiki page:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/New_Startup#GRASSGISCommunitySprintPrague2019,
but would it be possible summarize the general philosophy on the mailing
list ? I think this is an important part of GRASS GIS and discussion
should be larger.

Moritz




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[GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Community Sprint Prague 2019 Expenses

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Landa
Dear PSC,

first of all I would like to thank to the all participants of recently
organized community sprint in Prague [1]. We spent 5 nice days
fulfilled by GRASS hacking:-) See related reports [2].

Based on that we collected all expenses [3]. The budget is relatively
minimalistic since no travel/accommodation grants have been requested.

In this regard I would like to ask GRASS PSC to cover all expenses [3;
Reimbursements tab] (280.24 EUR in overall). Scanned bills [4].

If no objection we could start voting (in *different thread*).

Best regards, Martin

[1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Community_Sprint_Prague_2019
[2] 
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:GRASS_GIS_Community_Sprint_Prague_2019#Participants_and_Reports
[3] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CWvgUKRc2bUUUfQIFVFFMzk2R6JSOLVJj_WWfwKT13A/edit?usp=sharing
[4] https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vjqKYMYluG6_k2bzEZKXtMpvYf7oielB

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