Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
On 31/12/19 18:13, Markus Neteler wrote: Hi all, On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:41 PM Moritz Lennert wrote: Am 30.12.2019 18:50 schrieb Markus Neteler: Hi Peter, Moritz, PSC, On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM "Peter Löwe" wrote: Hello Markus, hi PSC, regarding our surplus from 2019, does the item "Travel grants for community sprints: 1043.09 EUR" summarize all costs for both events in Berlin and the Prague (including food, drinks, etc.) ? I am not sure where this number came from. The figure was added by Moritz: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/index.php?title=GRASS_GIS_Budget_2019=26007=26006 @Moritz Lennert could you pls add how it was calculated? The total corresponds to all expenses of the Berlin Community Sprint, travel grants, but also other expenses. Should these be separated ? I guess so, or we rename the entry. Ok, given the time we have I have just renamed it for now. [...] The Praque Sprint is not included, yet. @Martin pls enlighten us. Is there a table? I darkly remember some figures having been sent to this list. The figures have been sent to the list. There was a discussion whether the cost of buying stickers, etc should be part of the sprint budget, or not. Thus there has not been an official vote by the PSC, yet, and the money has not been sent to Martin. Therefore, the actual reimbursement will happen in 2020 so I guess it will be part of the 2020 budget, or ? I guess at one point we have to decide on a bit more systematic accounting and budget definition procedures. I just quickly cobbled things together when they were needed by OSGeo-EU. I agree. For now I have reworked the Wiki pages and added an USD column since that is the currency we have to report to the OSGeo board. Great, thanks! Now that I've learned today that I was officially a treasurer, I'll have to find some time to put things in order, but don't know when that will be... We might actually discuss and vote about this role :-) Good idea. Moritz ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Hi all, On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:41 PM Moritz Lennert wrote: > > Am 30.12.2019 18:50 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > Hi Peter, Moritz, PSC, > > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM "Peter Löwe" > > wrote: > >> > >> Hello Markus, hi PSC, > >> > >> regarding our surplus from 2019, does the item "Travel grants for > >> community sprints: 1043.09 EUR" summarize all costs for both events in > >> Berlin and the Prague (including food, drinks, etc.) ? > > > > I am not sure where this number came from. > > The figure was added by Moritz: > > https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/index.php?title=GRASS_GIS_Budget_2019=26007=26006 > > > > @Moritz Lennert could you pls add how it was calculated? > > The total corresponds to all expenses of the Berlin Community Sprint, > travel grants, but also other expenses. Should these be separated ? I guess so, or we rename the entry. Ok, given the time we have I have just renamed it for now. [...] > The Praque Sprint is not included, yet. @Martin pls enlighten us. Is there a table? I darkly remember some figures having been sent to this list. > I guess at one point we have to decide on a bit more systematic > accounting and budget definition procedures. I just quickly cobbled > things together when they were needed by OSGeo-EU. I agree. For now I have reworked the Wiki pages and added an USD column since that is the currency we have to report to the OSGeo board. See * https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2019 * https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 > Now that I've learned > today that I was officially a treasurer, I'll have to find some time to > put things in order, but don't know when that will be... We might actually discuss and vote about this role :-) I have now updated the OSGeo wiki and sent our 2020 request to the board (I have put 12,000 USD, the rest to be covered by our fundraising activities). Cheers, Markus ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Hi Peter, Moritz, PSC, On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM "Peter Löwe" wrote: > > Hello Markus, hi PSC, > > regarding our surplus from 2019, does the item "Travel grants for community > sprints: 1043.09 EUR" summarize all costs for both events in Berlin and the > Prague (including food, drinks, etc.) ? I am not sure where this number came from. The figure was added by Moritz: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/w/index.php?title=GRASS_GIS_Budget_2019=26007=26006 @Moritz Lennert could you pls add how it was calculated? > If the numbers for 2019 are complete, it seems like we only spent 20% of the > requested budget. Please all PSC members check if this is now correct: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2019 https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 > The preliminary planned 2020 budget is currently slightly lower than the 2019 > budget, however we should be prepared to answer questions on how we really > intend to spend the overall amount - and to avoid overbudgeting as in 2019 > (provided that the numbers are complete). Yes - agreed. Kind regards, Markus ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 12:03, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > Markus, PSC, > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 5:56 AM Markus Neteler wrote: >> >> Dear PSC, >> >> Please revisit our budget, we need to communicate it to the board ideally by >> tomorrow. >> >> No remarks? > > > Nothing regarding the items from me since I created the draft. The website is > not clear to me, but I think it needs to be included again (with a note added > to OSGeo Budget). Another thing is that in the past we did not split the > request into project budget, events, and sprints. This year, this would turn > out: > I also think the website cost should be in this year's budget with a note -- ciao Luca www.lucadelu.org ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Markus, PSC, On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 5:56 AM Markus Neteler wrote: > Dear PSC, > > Please revisit our budget, we need to communicate it to the board ideally > by tomorrow. > > No remarks? > Nothing regarding the items from me since I created the draft. The website is not clear to me, but I think it needs to be included again (with a note added to OSGeo Budget). Another thing is that in the past we did not split the request into project budget, events, and sprints. This year, this would turn out: Project: 2900 EUR + website Events: 500 EUR Sprints: 5500 EUR Lastly, the amounts need to converted from EUR to USD (as of today, google.com). Project: 3240.66 USD + website Events: 558.74 USD Sprints: 6146.09 USD Best, Vaclav > > Thanks > Markus > > Markus Neteler schrieb am Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 20:32: > >> Dear PSC, >> >> Our draft budget is at >> >> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 >> >> We have to ask to carry over the web site payment, maybe more? >> >> Please revisit it, comments welcome. >> >> Thanks >> Markus >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> Von: Angelos Tzotsos >> Date: Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 19:35 >> Subject: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020 >> To: >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions , OSGeo Board < >> bo...@lists.osgeo.org> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting >> the 2020 budget. >> >> Happy holidays, >> Angelos >> >> On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >> > Dear OSGeo project members and committees, >> > >> > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing >> > number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings, >> > and user conferences. >> > >> > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering >> > committees, to help plan our budget for 2020. >> > >> > As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting >> > budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the >> > board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board >> > meeting). >> > >> > For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects >> > are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed >> > budget requests from 2019 e.g. >> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019) >> > >> > A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending >> > the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an >> > organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or >> > participation developing new standards) >> > >> > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist >> > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding. >> > >> > Please add your project info to the budget draft at: >> > >> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020 >> > >> > ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting. >> > >> > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals >> > of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet. >> > >> > Thank you. >> > >> > On behalf of the OSGeo Board, >> > >> > Angelos >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD >> Charter Member >> Open Source Geospatial Foundation >> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos >> >> ___ >> Board mailing list >> bo...@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board >> > ___ > grass-psc mailing list > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Hi Peter, On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:39 AM "Peter Löwe" wrote: > Hello Markus, hi PSC, > ... > The preliminary planned 2020 budget is currently slightly lower than the > 2019 budget, however we should be prepared to answer questions on how we > really intend to spend the overall amount - and to avoid overbudgeting as > in 2019 (provided that the numbers are complete). > I can't comment on the concrete sprint/travel budget, but there are multiple reason why over-budgeting in 2019 happened. For sprints, we ask a certain sum from OSGeo, but then we raise funds ourselves (as requested by OSGeo) as well as minimize the expenses. I have some plans for strikers/promo/swag, but I started to carry them out only now. Then there is of course the website. So, I would say it is natural - at least for the way how we currently organize the budget. Best, Vaclav > > Kind regards, > Peter > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 27. Dezember 2019 um 11:56 Uhr > *Von:* "Markus Neteler" > *An:* GRASS-PSC > *Betreff:* [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo > Budget 2020 > Dear PSC, > > Please revisit our budget, we need to communicate it to the board ideally > by tomorrow. > > No remarks? > > Thanks > Markus > > Markus Neteler schrieb am Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 20:32: > >> Dear PSC, >> >> Our draft budget is at >> >> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 >> >> We have to ask to carry over the web site payment, maybe more? >> >> Please revisit it, comments welcome. >> >> Thanks >> Markus >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> Von: Angelos Tzotsos >> Date: Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 19:35 >> Subject: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020 >> To: >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions , OSGeo Board < >> bo...@lists.osgeo.org> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting >> the 2020 budget. >> >> Happy holidays, >> Angelos >> >> On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >> > Dear OSGeo project members and committees, >> > >> > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing >> > number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings, >> > and user conferences. >> > >> > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering >> > committees, to help plan our budget for 2020. >> > >> > As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting >> > budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the >> > board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board >> > meeting). >> > >> > For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects >> > are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed >> > budget requests from 2019 e.g. >> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019) >> > >> > A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending >> > the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an >> > organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or >> > participation developing new standards) >> > >> > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist >> > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding. >> > >> > Please add your project info to the budget draft at: >> > >> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020 >> > >> > ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting. >> > >> > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals >> > of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet. >> > >> > Thank you. >> > >> > On behalf of the OSGeo Board, >> > >> > Angelos >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD >> Charter Member >> Open Source Geospatial Foundation >> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos >> >> ___ >> Board mailing list >> bo...@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board >> > ___ grass-psc mailing list > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc > ___ > grass-psc mailing list > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
[GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Hello Markus, hi PSC, regarding our surplus from 2019, does the item "Travel grants for community sprints: 1043.09 EUR" summarize all costs for both events in Berlin and the Prague (including food, drinks, etc.) ? If the numbers for 2019 are complete, it seems like we only spent 20% of the requested budget. The preliminary planned 2020 budget is currently slightly lower than the 2019 budget, however we should be prepared to answer questions on how we really intend to spend the overall amount - and to avoid overbudgeting as in 2019 (provided that the numbers are complete). Kind regards, Peter Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Dezember 2019 um 11:56 Uhr Von: "Markus Neteler" An: GRASS-PSC Betreff: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020 Dear PSC, Please revisit our budget, we need to communicate it to the board ideally by tomorrow. No remarks? Thanks Markus Markus Neteler <nete...@osgeo.org> schrieb am Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 20:32: Dear PSC, Our draft budget is at https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 We have to ask to carry over the web site payment, maybe more? Please revisit it, comments welcome. Thanks Markus -- Forwarded message - Von: Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> Date: Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 19:35 Subject: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020 To: <proje...@lists.osgeo.org> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <disc...@lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo Board <bo...@lists.osgeo.org> Hi all, Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting the 2020 budget. Happy holidays, Angelos On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Dear OSGeo project members and committees, > > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing > number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings, > and user conferences. > > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering > committees, to help plan our budget for 2020. > > As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting > budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the > board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board > meeting). > > For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects > are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed > budget requests from 2019 e.g. > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019) > > A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending > the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an > organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or > participation developing new standards) > > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding. > > Please add your project info to the budget draft at: > > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020 > > ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting. > > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals > of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet. > > Thank you. > > On behalf of the OSGeo Board, > > Angelos > > -- Angelos Tzotsos, PhD Charter Member Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos ___ Board mailing list bo...@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
[GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS budget 2020 - was: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020
Dear PSC, Please revisit our budget, we need to communicate it to the board ideally by tomorrow. No remarks? Thanks Markus Markus Neteler schrieb am Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 20:32: > Dear PSC, > > Our draft budget is at > > https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 > > We have to ask to carry over the web site payment, maybe more? > > Please revisit it, comments welcome. > > Thanks > Markus > > -- Forwarded message - > Von: Angelos Tzotsos > Date: Mo., 23. Dez. 2019, 19:35 > Subject: Re: [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020 > To: > Cc: OSGeo Discussions , OSGeo Board < > bo...@lists.osgeo.org> > > > Hi all, > > Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting > the 2020 budget. > > Happy holidays, > Angelos > > On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > > Dear OSGeo project members and committees, > > > > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing > > number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings, > > and user conferences. > > > > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering > > committees, to help plan our budget for 2020. > > > > As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting > > budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the > > board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board > > meeting). > > > > For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects > > are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed > > budget requests from 2019 e.g. > > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019) > > > > A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending > > the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an > > organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or > > participation developing new standards) > > > > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist > > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding. > > > > Please add your project info to the budget draft at: > > > > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020 > > > > ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting. > > > > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals > > of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet. > > > > Thank you. > > > > On behalf of the OSGeo Board, > > > > Angelos > > > > > > > -- > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > Charter Member > Open Source Geospatial Foundation > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos > > ___ > Board mailing list > bo...@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
