[GreenYouth] Re: The untouchable and her rise to power in India
The same plight that happened to Dravida parties may soom happen to BSP but within a lesser span of time. it s possible. BSP is a mainstream indian political party and functions within the institution of indian politics. any new democratic movement should also challenge the claims of mayavati, if one expects 'radical change', though i dont understand how one can define it. if it s of the romantic communist type radicalism, i would prefer to say NO to such radicalism. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:50 PM, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.comwrote: 1.While assesing a leader, need we turn a blind eye to the serious charges of corruption (TAJ corridor case) and amasing of wealth only because that one is solidarity with cause she champions? 2. If some argues that such allegations of corruption and nepotism are raised on casteist grounds and press/media fails to highlight the high-handedness of upper caste poltiicians. How justifiable is this? 3 The new democratic movement (of which a notice of the meeting at ernakulam was published in Green youth) and similar new movements are taking a firm stand aginst corruption. One demand of this movement was the prosecution of CPM state secretary on account of CBI charge-sheeting. 4. Mayawathi birthday fanfare does not look well for a party and leader that apsires for a radical change. How does the BSP tend to differentiate it from other parties. I am not referring to some political compromises. The same plight that happened to Dravida parties may soom happen to BSP but within a lesser span of time. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ranjit Ranjit ranjit.ran...@gmail.comwrote: The untouchable and her rise to power in India In the late 1960s, a little girl and her family set out from a Delhi shanty town to visit her grandparents in a distant village. It was a long journey, and her parents began to chat to other passengers on the bus. When they revealed their destination was the chamar mohalla – the area usually found on the outskirts of a village and inhabited by those at the lowest level of the Indian caste hierarchy – the bus fell silent. The little girl’s mother had to explain to her that other Indians considered the caste to which her family belonged to be unclean. More than 40 years later, that little girl, known simply as Mayawati, is a political hero for lower-caste Indians throughout the north of the country. She is a Dalit, a member of the caste known historically as “untouchables”. And Dalits in the state of Uttar Pradesh hurry in their thousands to her rallies, where she tells them how proud she is to have been born into a Dalit family. “I am the daughter of a Chamar [a Dalit]. I am a Chamar. I am yours.” In May 2007, she became chief minister of Uttar Pradesh for the fourth time. On taking the oath of office, she declared that “nobody can stop me from becoming prime minister”. We shall find out soon enough if she is right: India goes to the polls in a general election in April and May this year. Mayawati was born in 1956, the second of nine children from a family which originally hailed from the village of Badalpur in Uttar Pradesh. Unlike most of India’s Dalits, she grew up in a city, in the lower-middle-class Delhi suburb of Inderpuri, where her father was a clerk in the department of post and telegraphs. The family was poor, yet was able to send her to a government school and then to university. After graduating with a teaching qualification, Mayawati worked as a teacher in Delhi, where she met Kanshi Ram, the founder of the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP). Until Ram’s death in 2006, he and Mayawati worked together to forge a new politics of Dalit identity. Central to this vision is the desire to end caste discrimination and build a society founded on ideals of equality and fairness. Officially, the practice of untouchability and caste discrimination was outlawed by the Indian constitution in 1950. Unofficially, however, little changed. A recent study by ActionAid illustrates the problems that Dalits continue to face. It found significant discrimination in the provision of public services, including the denial of barber services and separate seating and utensils in restaurants. In many of the villages surveyed, Dalits are banned from holding marriage processions on roads and from wearing brightly coloured clothes. Physical violence against Dalits is common. The National Crime Records Bureau reports that each day two Dalits are killed and three Dalit women are raped. In October 2007, a Dalit woman in a village in Madhya Pradesh refused to work alone to harvest an entire crop for a local farmer. The upper-caste farm owners tied her to a tree and beat her, fracturing her limbs. When the woman regained consciousness and asked for water, she was given urine to drink. Under Indian law, segregation is illegal. The problem lies not with the law, but with the willingness of the state to
[GreenYouth] Exploding Cherries _ Mhmd Hanif
* http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090316fname=Cover+Storysid=4 * *Exploding Cherries* *Where is the backlash of the Pakistani cricket fanatic* Imran Khan is one of the many mainstream politicians, commentators and socialites in Pakistan who seem to think that if they slip in a nice word about militants, they will reciprocate by showing restraint, or at least not attack the only cricket team in the world brave and friendly enough to visit Pakistan during the past 14 months... Pakistanis also have some other well-documented passions: they love to send their children to the best schools they can afford, they are mad about pop music, and they like to also indulge in the occasional dance routine. During the past few months, militants have shown no respect for any of these popular pastimes either. There was no backlash when more than 200 schools were demolished by the Taliban in the Swat valley. There was not a squeak of protest when more than 500 music shops were shut down in Mingora, the main town in the valley. There were only murmurs of horror when a dancer named Shabana was dragged into the city square and killed. (Don’t slit my throat, just shoot me, Shabana was reported to have said.) Intellectuals like Imran Khan who are remarkably, and rightly I must add, articulate when it comes to lecturing America about its foreign policy, and documenting Israeli atrocities in Gaza, did not utter the word ‘dancer’ or ‘Shabana’ because they thought it might infuriate the militant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Exploding Cherries _ Mhmd Hanif
The articles ends with the following..* It might be too early to tell who was behind these attacks, as old-fashioned journalists are fond of saying, but we can safely say that pictures of young men wearing sneakers, backpacks and brandishing AK-47s, and TV presenters demanding revenge, will be the only spectator sport on Pakistani TV channels for some time.* On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.comwrote: * http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090316fname=Cover+Storysid=4 * *Exploding Cherries* *Where is the backlash of the Pakistani cricket fanatic* Imran Khan is one of the many mainstream politicians, commentators and socialites in Pakistan who seem to think that if they slip in a nice word about militants, they will reciprocate by showing restraint, or at least not attack the only cricket team in the world brave and friendly enough to visit Pakistan during the past 14 months... Pakistanis also have some other well-documented passions: they love to send their children to the best schools they can afford, they are mad about pop music, and they like to also indulge in the occasional dance routine. During the past few months, militants have shown no respect for any of these popular pastimes either. There was no backlash when more than 200 schools were demolished by the Taliban in the Swat valley. There was not a squeak of protest when more than 500 music shops were shut down in Mingora, the main town in the valley. There were only murmurs of horror when a dancer named Shabana was dragged into the city square and killed. (Don’t slit my throat, just shoot me, Shabana was reported to have said.) Intellectuals like Imran Khan who are remarkably, and rightly I must add, articulate when it comes to lecturing America about its foreign policy, and documenting Israeli atrocities in Gaza, did not utter the word ‘dancer’ or ‘Shabana’ because they thought it might infuriate the militant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Humanities conference in Thrissur
Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Fw: Kerala NGOs Disown Shashi Tharoor on Coca Cola Issue
--- On Sat, 7/3/09, Ravinder Singh wrote: From: Ravinder Singh Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 2:46 PM Kerala NGOs Disown Shashi Tharoor on Coca Cola Issue Dear Mr. S. Faizi, There is no water shortage in Gods Own Country blessed with highest rainfall in the world spread over 120 to 140 days and water flows in rivers is 72,673 MCM in a year when water drawn by Coca Cola was just 0.182 MCM. Primary source of water in Kerala is river flows only few states like Punjab depend primarily on ground water for irrigation and other needs. I am disappointed to learn that “Struggle to make sure Kerala remains industrially backwards led by you as an expert is gaining momentum and you are even prepared to disown Kerala’s pride Shashi Tharoor.” [Kerala is a small state, tucked away between the Western Ghats and the Arabian Sea, in the southwestern corner of India . The land is known for its picturesque landscapes and highly educated people. With a very high quality of life index and literacy, the State is one of the most densely populated in India . Geographically, Kerala is unique and its climate is often described as pseudo-tropic. The State is endowed with liberal rainfall and all round lush vegetation. Some of the last remnants of the tropical rain forests of India are situated here. It is the privilege of Kerala to usher in the southwest monsoon to the country. The tall, well-wooded hills of Western Ghats precipitate a bountiful rainfall that flows down to the Arabian sea through 41 small, west-flowing drainages. These rivers, the longest being Bharatapuzha, 267 km, carry an annual discharge of 72 673 million m3 (MCM) per year, which is much higher than the quantum of water being carried by large rivers like Cauvery, Krishna and Tapti.] Let me add only Ganga , Bramhputra Godavri rivers carry more water than rivers in Kerala. No state on earth has 2000 MCM of water available per 1000 square kilometer surface area. This is 2 million cubic meters per square kilometer, Coca Cola factory is built on 15 hectares which is 0.15 sq.km thus contributed 0.3 MCM of river flows before it was built against water extraction of 0..18 MCM. Another way of calculation is 1,50,000 sq.mt factory receiving 2 meters of rain fall would get 0.3 MCM annual precipitation much less than extraction. I admire your skills in running down people who do not subscribe to your opinion and make a fool of the High Court Supreme Court by not disclosing huge surplus water resources in dams and rivers of Palakkad District and Chittur Taluka, less than 0.01% of it was required by Coca Cola. Quantum of rainfall in Palakkad District is 8,000 MCM against 0.182 MCM water needs of Coca Cola. But in the report as an Expert you could find only 0.25 MCM surplus water in Chittur Taluk. “The requirement of Coca-Cola is 0.1825 MCM, or 73 per cent of the remaining 0.25 MCM of groundwater.” Bharathapuzha is extensively dammed for irrigation purposes in Palakkad district, resulting in nine impoundments (11351 ha). River Bharathapuzha is bestowed with a rich web of tributaries and sub-tributaries. The river basin receives an average annual rainfall of 2,300 mm and the annual average stream flow is estimated to be 5,082.9 million cubic metres. When dubious people like you are appointed “Experts” there is gross mis-management, people die of starvation, poverty malnutrition. I found very low paddy crop yield in Kerala and can’t imagine why three paddy crops are raised in Kerala like TN and then complain of water shortage. You have not honored Kerala High Court judgment that let Coca Cola resume its operations. People in Kerala and more importantly NGOs around the world would be shocked when they learn biggest dam and six out of ten irrigation projects in Kerala are located in Palakkad district where Coca Cola plant is located but you have manipulated it as a dry a barren district. Just one Chitturpuzha Dam get 7.25 tmc of water annually serving Chittur Taluk which is more than 200 million cubic meter against 0.18 MCM water requirement of Coca Cola. Malampuzha has 226 million cubic metre of live storage capacity which means it regulates between 500 MCM to 1000 MCM of river flows. But most amazingly Kerala cultivates rice mainly in dry Summer or Rabi season. Last year 143,000 hectare was brought under paddy in Kerala in Rabi season against target of 224,000 hectares but in Kharif season coinciding with monsoon respective figures were 76,000 hectares and 138,000 hectares. Kerala may switch to Sunflower or Maize cultivation in Rabi season to conserve water and import rice from other states. I think it is your professional duty to tell facts to the Supreme Court High Court and more importantly people of Kerala NGOs. Ravinder Singh March07, 2009 References Your Message
[GreenYouth] Re: The untouchable and her rise to power in India
The BSP leadership rejects this and maintains that the costs of political violence are usually paid for disproportionately by the poor. They point to the neighbouring state of Bihar, where the Naxalite insurgency has led to the formation of upper-caste citizen armies, with devastating results for the poor and the vulnerable. Do the poor really have many choices against having to pay disproportionately for political violence? If the answer were yes, option might be certainly something like chosing between peaceful popular mandate and massive militant combat against the perpetrators of violence. Unfortunately,the agenda of violence is incerasingly being set by the state powers, rather than by the poor led by communists in the case of many parts of the country. I would say that is true, even viewed from a global perspective. When someone says in the context of Bihar, that communists by their violent methods invited retaliatory state violence and upper-caste citizen armies and made the poor pay the price disproportionately, how will be the phenomenal violence and lawlessness in Gujarat explained? How will you explain the violence in Orissa? How will you explain the violence in Karnataka directed against minority communities and women of all class and caste,including the bourgeois?The Sangh- Muthalik- Modi-Advani forces acting hand in glove with a virtually lawless administrative set up and salva judum type civilian forces, ensure that people are always kept in fear. The incarceration of Dr.Binayak Sen by the Chathisgad govt purportedly as part of combating political extremism, was in fact, on fabricated charges without a grain of evidence against him. And yet, each of the political formations , UPA, NDA , or the new aspirants distancing from both, choses not to speak out. On the contrary, often we find them united against the poor in the name of dealing with political extremism. Both the statist forces and the civilian combatants parading as one Sena or other, openly come out even against people trying to express themselves in democratic and peaceful ways. My point however, is not that there is no space at all for a change for something better through a peaceful popular mandate . On the contrary, I would suggest that violence in most part, is fundamentally emanating from the State; secondly, fascist violence these days, is especially being perpetrated by civilian senas acting hand in glove with State powers. Bangalore, Mangalore and many other favourite places of peace loving people all over india are increasingly becoming battlefields where these fascists are arrayed on the one side to claim spaces everywhere, and people on the other side striving hard to retain / reclaim those very spaces which naturally belonged to them till recently. On Mar 7, 12:20 pm, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: 1.While assesing a leader, need we turn a blind eye to the serious charges of corruption (TAJ corridor case) and amasing of wealth only because that one is solidarity with cause she champions? 2. If some argues that such allegations of corruption and nepotism are raised on casteist grounds and press/media fails to highlight the high-handedness of upper caste poltiicians. How justifiable is this? 3 The new democratic movement (of which a notice of the meeting at ernakulam was published in Green youth) and similar new movements are taking a firm stand aginst corruption. One demand of this movement was the prosecution of CPM state secretary on account of CBI charge-sheeting. 4. Mayawathi birthday fanfare does not look well for a party and leader that apsires for a radical change. How does the BSP tend to differentiate it from other parties. I am not referring to some political compromises. The same plight that happened to Dravida parties may soom happen to BSP but within a lesser span of time. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ranjit Ranjit ranjit.ran...@gmail.comwrote: The untouchable and her rise to power in India In the late 1960s, a little girl and her family set out from a Delhi shanty town to visit her grandparents in a distant village. It was a long journey, and her parents began to chat to other passengers on the bus. When they revealed their destination was the chamar mohalla – the area usually found on the outskirts of a village and inhabited by those at the lowest level of the Indian caste hierarchy – the bus fell silent. The little girl’s mother had to explain to her that other Indians considered the caste to which her family belonged to be unclean. More than 40 years later, that little girl, known simply as Mayawati, is a political hero for lower-caste Indians throughout the north of the country. She is a Dalit, a member of the caste known historically as “untouchables”. And Dalits in the state of Uttar Pradesh hurry in their thousands to her rallies, where she tells them how proud she is to have been born into a Dalit
[GreenYouth] Nellie massacre.....An Untold Shame
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[GreenYouth] Re: March-8-Interntional Women` Day
Did I make a notion of ' they dont understand' mood in the mail? ! When I read the earlier mail by ranju I thought my explanation for such programs is clear though not all may agree with it.But here it becomes as if accusing for being part of modern ways of perpetuating violence by sympatrhising etc! Or, may be I dont understand this mail ! But I agree- 'the struggles of women not exposed to feminist thought also should be considered and respectd and will give strenght to women;s movemnt...' Still we have to note, I think, those personal struggles which are just momentary for solving one`s own problem without any feminist view (or politics?, may be not necessary) would any time become contradictory. Or was this statement pointing out the women`s struggles in the marxist/maoist/ religious/the like of social movements? ! On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.com wrote: venuattan, i was not refering to ur mail. rather making a general statement in the context of maya's mail. this sympathy and love for the marginalised has been the hallmark of modern ways of perpetuating violence. (look at the State/Party/Womens commsn/etc all love the marginalised..) reference to pink came bz of the way feminist movemnt was guided recetnly as per NORM and the normative silence towards incidents where identity of some Other women were attcked just wanted to point out that the struggles of women not exposed to feminist thought also should be considered and respectd and will give strenght to women;s movemnt... On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:34 AM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: An error corrected: Y chromozome is only 1/5 th of the X On Mar 7, 8:53 am, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: But it's not bad to work toward feminizing the human..Masculine in the biological angle is only a modification of the X to somewhat inferior Y (about half the size of the stronger X, according to scientists) ,only for the purpose of propagating the race. If you don't want to propagate the race for some good, forget Y and think of the desirability of X. Sreeni, I would say that all other divisions of masculine and feminine are socially constructed and certainly need to be challenged . Esp after the crashing in of queer theory by Judith Butler in the gender discourse,the entire orientation has changed .According to Butler,there is only very small difference between the so called male,female and the trans when we consider both from a biological and social perspective. Therefore, there is absolutely no point in our disproportionate celebrations of masculine and feminie. So, de-gendering (feminizing, in a sense) is not only desirable, but it is also vitally needed for maintaining any hope for the future of the human race. It simply helps curing the tendency of gendered humans to gravitate to power and violence. On Mar 7, 8:00 am, sreenivas v.p sreenivas_...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi Maya , Any forms of feminism that discard the ideas of masculinity and femininity is rubbish . Gender equality cannot be applied if we ignor the basic needs of men and women with respect to their sexuality . I think feminists, to a certain extent has contaminated the womanly qualities . and i dont think you are fighting for equality . What you want is feminisation of the world . regards sreenivas --- On Fri, 6/3/09, Maya maya.sssmgu2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maya maya.sssmgu2...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: March-8-Interntional Women` Day To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 6 March, 2009, 10:43 PM This is a program to speak out the limitations of WC and the drawbacks of existing law nd order , as far as I could understand. I participate as I think there is space to bring out the issues of patriarchy, gender and sexuality too gradually. Or I think feminist activists should try to make such a space in such programs. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean that one or other doesn't understand those questions . On the contrary, I wanted to raise a few questions about the calculative silence ,or rather, the conspiracy of silence of the opinion makers including prominent fighters for women's cause. In spite of having fought many a successful battle on the issue of peedanam for nearly two and a half decades, the fighters for women's rights cause here in Kerala do not want to address the core question;ie, the issue of gender justice vis a vis full citizenship, This is esp true in the context of sexuality and autonomy over body. I'm sure Maya has not missed the advertisement by the WC, issued in service of women as tips for their protection against violence. It is mainly addressed to the middle class women and women who have access to the internet, mobile phone and the 'outlandish' concepts of
[GreenYouth] Indian development sector
The Indian development sector (that is non government organizations) yearly budget is equivalent to one state budget, it is 3 crores! where they are spending and how many people got befitted from this? The development sector in India claiming that they are there for poorest of the poor, and they are saying that they are there for the welfare of the weaker sections, women empowerment, eradication of child labor, elimination of HIV/AIDS, and protection of environment, and human rights of the marginalized sections of the society In my view the marginalized sections, poorest of the poor, child labor, women in distress, positive people, victims of human rights violations, all the generally the dalits, as majority of the child labors, women in distress, positive people, the people who denied human rights, were dalits Then, see how many of the dalits have employed in ngos, and in the policy making positions of the non government sector, if they speak without allowing the victims to decide things, it is one money making activity to the upper caste intellectuals nothing else they say, and show the photos and stories of the poorest of the poor to the charity organizations to mobalise money and they forget the poorest of the poor after that Are they really working for the same cause they are claiming , any body monitering this, I have some ideas to share with our people who are employed in the field of social work and non government organization, and i have an idea to prepare a contact list of the people who engaged in development sector Please send contact details those who are interested Karthik -- Battula Karthik Navayan, Advocate, C/o Siddhartha Hospital,Parigi Road, Shadnagar, Mahaboobnagar District, 509216-AP Cell:09346677007, email:nava...@gmail.comemail%3anava...@gmail.com http://karthiknavayan.blogspot.com/ http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile.aspx?uid=10379805095932756525 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: March-8-Interntional Women` Day
Maya, I'm afraid you made this statement( though at a particular juncture and in an attempt to clarify your point that the majority of uneducated poor women are too preoccupied with saving themselves from the brutality within and outside their homes to be able to think of what gender and sexuality mean): They don't even know what gender and sexuality mean. They jsut want some way first, to save themselves from the brutality that they face from men inside or outside house. So first the gradual changing steps still would have to be fllowed. This could indeed, convey a mood of saying like they don't understand as we do. The intention of my post however,is not just to point out this. Apart from acknowledging the need to draw strength from and lend more strength to such initiatives as pennkodathi, will the fighters for women's cause in Kerala continue to keep their silence about demand for equal citizenship? If you were suggesting that struggle for equality doesn't find a place even in the wildest imaginations of the most oppressed and poor women as it occurs in the case of so called liberated women, I like to counter it, because it is just the other way round. Let democratically minded people in one voice demand to the Women's Commission, custodians of law and order , law makers, courts , protectionist-minded political parties, media and few NGOs working on women front: Stop Propagating the Biggest Lie That Safety of Woman Lies In Restricting Her Civic Freedoms. Stop Adding Insult to Injury. Regards, Venu. On Mar 7, 11:07 pm, Maya maya.sssmgu2...@gmail.com wrote: Did I make a notion of ' they dont understand' mood in the mail? ! When I read the earlier mail by ranju I thought my explanation for such programs is clear though not all may agree with it.But here it becomes as if accusing for being part of modern ways of perpetuating violence by sympatrhising etc! Or, may be I dont understand this mail ! But I agree- 'the struggles of women not exposed to feminist thought also should be considered and respectd and will give strenght to women;s movemnt...' Still we have to note, I think, those personal struggles which are just momentary for solving one`s own problem without any feminist view (or politics?, may be not necessary) would any time become contradictory. Or was this statement pointing out the women`s struggles in the marxist/maoist/ religious/the like of social movements? ! On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.com wrote: venuattan, i was not refering to ur mail. rather making a general statement in the context of maya's mail. this sympathy and love for the marginalised has been the hallmark of modern ways of perpetuating violence. (look at the State/Party/Womens commsn/etc all love the marginalised..) reference to pink came bz of the way feminist movemnt was guided recetnly as per NORM and the normative silence towards incidents where identity of some Other women were attcked just wanted to point out that the struggles of women not exposed to feminist thought also should be considered and respectd and will give strenght to women;s movemnt... On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:34 AM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: An error corrected: Y chromozome is only 1/5 th of the X On Mar 7, 8:53 am, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: But it's not bad to work toward feminizing the human..Masculine in the biological angle is only a modification of the X to somewhat inferior Y (about half the size of the stronger X, according to scientists) ,only for the purpose of propagating the race. If you don't want to propagate the race for some good, forget Y and think of the desirability of X. Sreeni, I would say that all other divisions of masculine and feminine are socially constructed and certainly need to be challenged . Esp after the crashing in of queer theory by Judith Butler in the gender discourse,the entire orientation has changed .According to Butler,there is only very small difference between the so called male,female and the trans when we consider both from a biological and social perspective. Therefore, there is absolutely no point in our disproportionate celebrations of masculine and feminie. So, de-gendering (feminizing, in a sense) is not only desirable, but it is also vitally needed for maintaining any hope for the future of the human race. It simply helps curing the tendency of gendered humans to gravitate to power and violence. On Mar 7, 8:00 am, sreenivas v.p sreenivas_...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi Maya , Any forms of feminism that discard the ideas of masculinity and femininity is rubbish . Gender equality cannot be applied if we ignor the basic needs of men and women with respect to their sexuality . I think feminists, to a certain extent has contaminated the womanly qualities . and i dont think you are fighting for equality .
[GreenYouth] one better than arnab/barkha
*Talking about humour - this came to me from a Pakistani * *JOKE OF THE DAY* Asif Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Madhuri Dixit and Margaret Thatcher are traveling in a train. The train suddenly goes through a tunnel and it gets completely dark. Suddenly there is a kissing sound and then a slap! The train comes out of the tunnel. Thatcher and Zardari are sitting there looking perplexed. Nawaz is bent over holding his face, which is red from an apparent slap. All of them remain diplomatic and nobody says anything. Thatcher is thinking: These Pakistanis are all crazy after Madhuri. Nawaz must have tried to kiss her in the tunnel. Very proper that she slapped him Madhuri is thinking: Nawaz must have moved to kiss me, and kissed Margaret instead and got slapped. Nawaz is thinking: Damn! it, Zardari must have tried to kiss Madhuri, she thought it was me and slapped! me. Zardari is thinking: If this train goes through another tunnel, I could make another kissing sound and slap Nawaz again. [image: FunAndFunOnly (www.mails4u.net.tc)][image: FunAndFunOnly (www.mails4u.net.tc)][image: FunAndFunOnly (www.mails4u.net.tc)][image: FunAndFunOnly (www.mails4u.net.tc)] -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Coca Cola/Plachimada: An open rejoinder to Mr Shashi Tharoor (fwd)
Dear C K I should have been writing this mail personally - but I think I need to do this *launda naach *in public Tharoor/s naivete notwithstanding- I strongly believe that Plachimada is the Sangh Parivar entry into Kearla I dare Ajay or Faizi to a public debate with me rather than Tharoor on this!!! Love 2009/3/5 C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com --- On Thu, 5/3/09, Shiva Shankar sshan...@cmi.ac.in wrote: From: Shiva Shankar sshan...@cmi.ac.in Subject: Coca Cola/Plachimada: An open rejoinder to Mr Shashi Tharoor (fwd) To: Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 5:01 PM -Original Message- From: S Faizi [mailto:ecol...@dataone.in] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:13 AM To: 'tharoor.assist...@gmail.com' Subject: Coca Cola/Plachimada: An open rejoinder to Mr Shashi Tharoor From: S.Faizi, R2 Saundarya Apartments, Nandavanam, Thiruvananthapuram, biodivers...@rediffmail.com (Environmental Expert Member: Kerala Groundwater Authority; Chairman: Indian Biodiversity Forum) Mr.Shashi Tharoor, Chairman, Afras Ventures, 230 Park Avenue, Suite 2525, New York, NY 10169 Dear Mr Tharoor, I have read with interest your response to the Plachimada Struggle Solidarity Committee’s criticism of your being in a PR project of the Coca Cola company in India, in Hindu and the full text on a web site that carries your PR material. I do not have a grain of opposition to your being in the cola PR outfit, for it is natural for people like to you to be in places like that. However, I am writing this public response to you in order to address the misinformation contained in your letter, outdoing even the PR staff of the company, and the unwarranted sweeping remarks you have made on Kerala development. The High Court Division Bench verdict in favour of the company that you have referred to was made subsequent to a single bench verdict against the company. And the Division Bench verdict is being challenged in the Supreme Court by the Perumatti Panchayat and by the people’s groups agitating against the company. The CWRDM-lead report was flawed in many respects, as is being argued in the SC, which is also an issue of concern for CWRDM scientists as the institution has suffered an erosion of credibility. The very assumption of the report, in estimating the total groundwater availability in Chitoor block, that 20 per cent of the rainfall can be recharged is flawed as the Central Groundwater Board’s (CGWB) assessment in 2003 had put the recharge in areas such as Chitoor at 5-8 per cent. While the committee report put the annual recharge in the block at 74.1 million cubic meters (mcm), based on the CGWB’s scientific estimation of recharge rate it is only between 16.6 to 33.2 mcms. The report also suppresses the domestic and agricultural water needs. The central question in the High Court case was not as much about pollution and depletion of water resources, land pollution by heavy metals, or the right to life provision of the Constitution, as about the power of the local panchayat to ask for the closure of the factory. The Groundwater Dept, in a report on the groundwater of Palakkad dist prepared in 2006, presented an alarming picture of the state of groundwater in Chitoor block. The legal status of groundwater has rightly become that of a public resource with the enactment of the Kerala Groundwater Act which came into force in 2003. However, this law (as well as several other points from the environmental jurisprudence) was not considered in the High Court case. Groundwater was considered as a private resource, while the said law asserts it as a public resource over which the appropriate agencies of the State have control in public interest. And this change in the legal status of groundwater is also going to be examined by the apex court. You attempt to deny the toxic sludge. However, the Supreme Court Monitoring Committee (SCMC), in its report following its site visit in August 2004, had determined the presence of heavy metals (cadmium and lead) in the sludge, and this was distributed by the cunning company to the unsuspecting farmers as ‘fertiliser’. And the State Pollution Control Board had directed the company to cease operations. The pollution of the well waters around the factory was reported by independent labs and the SPCB also confirmed it by asking the people not to use the water of the panchayat well it had tested. I visited the area two weeks ago as a member of the expert committee attached to the State SC/ST Commission and found the situation of the local people, ST/SC in particular, extremely worrying- there is hardly any water in the wells and where it is present it is not usable. Pollution of drinking water is a crime under the SC/ST (Atrocities) Act. On 14-9-2004 the company agreed to provide piped water to the residents
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Fwd: [ഒരു കപ ്പ് ചായ] New comment on ലിപ്സ്റ്റിക്കു ം മൊബൈലും.
- K.M.Venugopalan http://www.blogger.com/profile/04074009924275249249 has left a new comment on the post ലിപ്സ്റ്റിക്കും മൊബൈലുംhttp://orukappuchaaya.blogspot.com/2009/03/blog-post.html?ext-ref=comm-sub-email: Fitting response! Though made in the context of WC's advertisement, it applies well to those untiring fighters for women's causes here in Kerala, who , for the last two and a half decades have been pursuing struggles unilaterally oriented on protection against peedanam. In fact, such a disproportionate emphasis on peedanam and patronage of women only helps to edify the dictums of Manu: Women,the abalas, always need protection and should never aspire for freedom! Sthree Suraksha Samithis floated by left parties like the SUCI also seem to be too preoccupied with this thought of providing guardianship, rather than conceding full citizenship to women. These die hard defenders of culture seem to suggest that culture is something that should essentially,unilaterally and permanently control women through imposed dress codes,prescribed body languages and demarcated boundaries of space and time crossing which, they might spoil everything.How the Lakhshmanarekha in the Hindu epic symbolizes this equation of restriction =protection is too well known to be elaborated here. Why blame SriRam Senes for acts(albeit a little outrageous and violent) in teaching women of their status, if one is going to argue that protection is so conditional and dependent on curtailing the civic freedoms of women ? Posthttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=419330539935636956postID=7740099267857003229ext-ref=comm-sub-emaila comment. Unsubscribehttp://www.blogger.com/comment-unsubscribe.g?blogID=419330539935636956postID=7740099267857003229to comments on this post. Posted by K.M.Venugopalan to ഒരു കപ്പ് ചായhttp://orukappuchaaya.blogspot.com/?ext-ref=comm-sub-emailat March 7, 2009 10:47 AM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: March-8-Interntional Women` Day
any woman from any caste/ class/ race can understand the problems of other women from any caste/class/race i beg to differ here. on the contrary, a woman understands her subjective cultural/social locations better, gendered reality being conflated by caste/class/religion take for eg: the recetn pink chaddi campaign. why the same campaign didnt taka place for muslim women harassed in the same state. why no such campaign for dalit women so there is soemthing called 'woman of difference' whose issues may not be an ISSUE for mainstream feminsm.. u must be remembering those upper caste women who throng de streets during anti-mandal agitation.. was it for all women? the sons/daughters of these woemn once agin came to the streets recently against OBC reservation... there s nothing astonishing in it and i m not taking a position tht all fights should be isolated; but instead of engaging in dialogues with the Other, attempts are made to coopt their politics thereby denying epistemic authority to their life struggles. in simple terms it s better to say, i dont understand you. pls tell us abt u, we would like to know you than claiming that i can understand you.. this s what i feel abt the struggles of the marginalised whther it be women/dalits/adivasis etc. thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
when gayatri comes CAN THE SUBALTERN SPEAK? On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bobby Kunhu bobby.ku...@gmail.com wrote: is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ -- The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human beings. - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
*:-) *hahaha.. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.com wrote: when gayatri comes CAN THE SUBALTERN SPEAK? On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bobby Kunhu bobby.ku...@gmail.com wrote: is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Comrade Balaraman's Murderer
Hi, Attaching KGS Poem that Neelan sir had referred to.It appeared in recent issue of S.Malayalam There is some font problem with the attached text. Reading KGS is always a delight. (And it provides deeper insights to our times) d.Prasad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- sakhaav_balaraamante_kolayaaLi.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
[GreenYouth] WHY LAWYERS REJECT SRI KRISHNA COMMISSION REPORT AS BIASED?
WHY LAWYERS REJECT SRI KRISHNA COMMISSION AS BIASED? 1. The scope of the Commission was only to inquire into the incidents on 19.02.2009. But the Commission had, without locus standi, gone beyond the events that happened before that date. 2. Most of the observations of the Commission against lawyers had not been supported by any piece of evidence. 3. In page of 5 of the report, the Commission acknowledges registration of 110 Criminal cases against lawyers and also states about arrest of lawyers. No violent incident was reported during those events. The Commission did not take note of this fact. 4. Even after noting the arrest of advocate Gini Leo Immanuel in the Subramaniam Swamy assault case and the surrender of 14 advocates in the High Court Police Station, the Commission states in page 10 that some lawyers threw stones of the police. The entire version of the police about the incident had been re-produced verbatim without caring to verify the allegations. 5. Is the former Supreme Court Judge is foolish enough to believe the timer in the police video to give a clean chit to the Commissioner of Police and other officers who had admitted that they ordered lathi charge and they were present during the incident? 6. The Commission had completely suppressed the fact borne out by photographs and video that police had dressed-up in lawyer’s uniform and stage-managed the stone-throwing incident. 7. What proof did the commission rely on to state in page 15 that the violence was started by the unruly mob of lawyers. 8. The judge could not decipher that the whole incident was pre- meditated, cold-blooded act of the police force, from the fact that the DGP and the Commissioner of Police could not be contacted over phone by the Chief Justice and other judges for a long time during the incident. The commission is foolish or dishonest? 9. When the Commission speaks eloquently about the “soft-pedaling” by the Chief Justice against erring lawyers, there is no whisper about action against the inhuman policemen. 10. Special care has been taken by the Commission to protect the Commissioner of Police Radhakrishnan and other officers. 11. The Commission merely condemns in page 19 the barbaric bleeding assault by the police without suggesting any legal actions against them. But on the contrary, in page 21 it had exceeded its limits by suggesting more guidelines for the behaviour of lawyers, thus exposing its pro-police, anti-lawyers attitude. 12. A reading of entire report by any commoner with common sense will give an impression that the Commission is unduly concerned with the agitations by the lawyers demanding ceasefire in Sri Lanka. Is the Commission anti-tamil? 13. The Commission did not bother to answer the following questions:- A REPRESENTATION BY SENIOR ADVOCATES OF THE MADRAS HIGH COURT REGARDING THE VIOLENCE UNLEASHED BY THE POLICE ON 19.02.2009 To The Chief Justice of India Supreme Court, New Delhi. A representation by Senior Advocates of the Madras High Court. ‘JALIANWALA BAGH’ IN MADRAS HIGH COURT The ugly incidents that took place on the afternoon of the 19th day of February, 2009 within the precincts of the Chartered High Court of Madras have left scores bleeding and thousands embittered. There seems to be an attempt to project advocates as the chief cause and perpetrators of the violence that was unleashed inside the premises. In this context, it is felt that a few important issues have been overlooked in the dust and din that has been raised: 1. A large posse of regular policemen, Swift Action Group, Riot Control Police had been gathered around the High Court premises since morning – did the police suspect anything, was anything being planned? 2. The police are on record saying that they were prepared – see News Report by A.Selvaraj in the Times of India, Chennai Edition, 21- Fen-09, at page 2. 3. It is alleged that a group of advocates created a commotion/uproar/ disturbance over the police’s laxity in filing an FIR against Shri Subramaniam Swamy and that the police ‘action’ which ensued was the result of trying to control this group of advocates. 4. If the police had such a large force piled up, could not this group of advocates have been contained without much difficulty – or are the police so inefficient that it is incapable of even this clinical operation? 5. Was it necessary to run amok inside the High Court to control a group of advocates, as alleged? 6. How then did the police let themselves inside the High Court premises on the afternoon of February 19th, after the boycott had ended? This action is indeed surprising viewed in the context of the extreme ‘restraint’ the police had shown itself to be capable of, a couple of months ago at the Madras Law College. 7. Worse, the police have charged inside various High Court sections (Registry) – For one, the police have tried force their way into, among others, the High-Court-Judges’-Personal Assistants (P.A) – Section – this
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
'Will the Bourgeoisie listen' would be the right question. __ Fathima Naeema On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.comwrote: *:-) *hahaha.. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.com wrote: when gayatri comes CAN THE SUBALTERN SPEAK? On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bobby Kunhu bobby.ku...@gmail.comwrote: is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: WHY LAWYERS REJECT SRI KRISHNA COMMISSION REPORT AS BIASED?
what a joke 2009/3/8 sarathi vpslawf...@gmail.com WHY LAWYERS REJECT SRI KRISHNA COMMISSION AS BIASED? 1. The scope of the Commission was only to inquire into the incidents on 19.02.2009. But the Commission had, without locus standi, gone beyond the events that happened before that date. 2. Most of the observations of the Commission against lawyers had not been supported by any piece of evidence. 3. In page of 5 of the report, the Commission acknowledges registration of 110 Criminal cases against lawyers and also states about arrest of lawyers. No violent incident was reported during those events. The Commission did not take note of this fact. 4. Even after noting the arrest of advocate Gini Leo Immanuel in the Subramaniam Swamy assault case and the surrender of 14 advocates in the High Court Police Station, the Commission states in page 10 that some lawyers threw stones of the police. The entire version of the police about the incident had been re-produced verbatim without caring to verify the allegations. 5. Is the former Supreme Court Judge is foolish enough to believe the timer in the police video to give a clean chit to the Commissioner of Police and other officers who had admitted that they ordered lathi charge and they were present during the incident? 6. The Commission had completely suppressed the fact borne out by photographs and video that police had dressed-up in lawyer’s uniform and stage-managed the stone-throwing incident. 7. What proof did the commission rely on to state in page 15 that the violence was started by the unruly mob of lawyers. 8. The judge could not decipher that the whole incident was pre- meditated, cold-blooded act of the police force, from the fact that the DGP and the Commissioner of Police could not be contacted over phone by the Chief Justice and other judges for a long time during the incident. The commission is foolish or dishonest? 9. When the Commission speaks eloquently about the “soft-pedaling” by the Chief Justice against erring lawyers, there is no whisper about action against the inhuman policemen. 10. Special care has been taken by the Commission to protect the Commissioner of Police Radhakrishnan and other officers. 11. The Commission merely condemns in page 19 the barbaric bleeding assault by the police without suggesting any legal actions against them. But on the contrary, in page 21 it had exceeded its limits by suggesting more guidelines for the behaviour of lawyers, thus exposing its pro-police, anti-lawyers attitude. 12. A reading of entire report by any commoner with common sense will give an impression that the Commission is unduly concerned with the agitations by the lawyers demanding ceasefire in Sri Lanka. Is the Commission anti-tamil? 13. The Commission did not bother to answer the following questions:- A REPRESENTATION BY SENIOR ADVOCATES OF THE MADRAS HIGH COURT REGARDING THE VIOLENCE UNLEASHED BY THE POLICE ON 19.02.2009 To The Chief Justice of India Supreme Court, New Delhi. A representation by Senior Advocates of the Madras High Court. ‘JALIANWALA BAGH’ IN MADRAS HIGH COURT The ugly incidents that took place on the afternoon of the 19th day of February, 2009 within the precincts of the Chartered High Court of Madras have left scores bleeding and thousands embittered. There seems to be an attempt to project advocates as the chief cause and perpetrators of the violence that was unleashed inside the premises. In this context, it is felt that a few important issues have been overlooked in the dust and din that has been raised: 1. A large posse of regular policemen, Swift Action Group, Riot Control Police had been gathered around the High Court premises since morning – did the police suspect anything, was anything being planned? 2. The police are on record saying that they were prepared – see News Report by A.Selvaraj in the Times of India, Chennai Edition, 21- Fen-09, at page 2. 3. It is alleged that a group of advocates created a commotion/uproar/ disturbance over the police’s laxity in filing an FIR against Shri Subramaniam Swamy and that the police ‘action’ which ensued was the result of trying to control this group of advocates. 4. If the police had such a large force piled up, could not this group of advocates have been contained without much difficulty – or are the police so inefficient that it is incapable of even this clinical operation? 5. Was it necessary to run amok inside the High Court to control a group of advocates, as alleged? 6. How then did the police let themselves inside the High Court premises on the afternoon of February 19th, after the boycott had ended? This action is indeed surprising viewed in the context of the extreme ‘restraint’ the police had shown itself to be capable of, a couple of months ago at the Madras Law College. 7. Worse, the police have charged inside various High Court sections (Registry)
[GreenYouth] Re: March-8-Interntional Women` Day
This could be the kind of approach in transgressing the boundaries of identities through politics, without being trapped by binaries of mutual exclusivity. .. there s nothing astonishing in it and i m not taking a position tht all fights should be isolated; but instead of engaging in dialogues with the Other, attempts are made to coopt their politics thereby denying epistemic authority to their life struggles. in simple terms it s better to say, i dont understand you. pls tell us abt u, we would like to know you than claiming that i can understand you.. this s what i feel abt the struggles of the marginalised whther it be women/dalits/adivasis etc. Being uneducated could even be more desirable than being ill- educated in the context of political struggles. The latter are often imbued with built-in mindsets to adjust to any amount of injustices. Especially when specific forms of injury and sufferings, institutionally inflicted on the other-edare dished out as items for entertainment- Watching a footage of unpleasant events through the idiot box, without an iota of sense of guilt for complicity through silence is a case in point. One can imagine that his/ her position is fortified by education,modernity, postmodernismor whatever; nevertheless, this could eventually be challenged by the uneducated, the lot of suffering people. Regards, Venu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
since all thrissurians are hard core intellectuals the question should be can gayatri spivak speak?:-) On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: :-) hahaha.. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.com wrote: when gayatri comes CAN THE SUBALTERN SPEAK? On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bobby Kunhu bobby.ku...@gmail.com wrote: is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Humanities conference in Thrissur
ha ha ha,, Very nice Sajeev. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, S sanjeev samva...@yahoo.com wrote: *since all thrissurians are hard core intellectuals the question should be can gayatri spivak speak?* *:-)* On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.comwrote: *:-) *hahaha.. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, ranju radha ranjura...@gmail.comwrote: when gayatri comes CAN THE SUBALTERN SPEAK? On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bobby Kunhu bobby.ku...@gmail.comwrote: is not this fairly short notice for call for papers or because it is Gayathru Spivak as the keynote or thrissur as the venue - the call can happen offhand? 2009/3/7 Luisa Steur luisast...@yahoo.co.uk Fyi: A call for papers for a conference, 27 and 28 June 2009 in Thrissur: Call for Papers International Conference on Humanities in the 21st Century Rethinking Humanities in the Age of the Visual June 27 28, 2009 C PRACSIS, Thrissur, Kerala, India 680001 Keynote: Gayathri Chakrvorthy Spivak The conference, Rethinking Humanities attempts to interrogate how the future of humanities can be traced and interpreted from various academic and philosophical quarters, and the ways in which interdisciplinary endeavours in all realms of knowledge respond to this effort. It is widely accepted that Humanities in the academia has encountered unusually critical challenges in the last few decades. The question of how these challenges are transmitted through the corpus and the methodological and canonical framework of traditional Humanities will be pivotal in the making of the conference. The conference attempts in a broad manner to address the following issues: Contemporary interpretations of the crisis in humanities The genealogies of interdisciplinarity in humanities The historical contexts of evolution of humanities Humanities and Social Sciences Posthumanities and production of knowledge Humanities and artificial intelligence Theories of technoculture and Cyber space and humanities Humanities and globalization Humanities and visual culture Philosophy in 21 Cen. academia The theory and practice of the arts in the 21st century Art and aesthetics as disciplines Theatre studies and interdisciplinary approaches Performance and philosophy Technology and Humanities Art and Social Sciences Visual Arts and the Virtual Reality 20th century approaches to humanities The future of humanities in Asia The fact that one of the major paradigms which re-organized many disciplines, including social sciences in the last century was the paradigm of visual culture and this issue has been crucial in designing the theme of this conference. The age of the visual, with its alteration of the priorities of modernity and the privileging of the spectacle incites serious reconsideration of Humanities within the contexts of the cultural practices of 21st century. C PRACSIS invites papers for presentation in the proposed conference on 27 and 28 June 2009 at Thrissur, Kerala, India; on topics of similar wavelength. Kindly send the abstracts of the papers to direc...@cpracsis.org or to csbiju...@gmail.com on or before April 20, 2009. Information regarding the acceptance of the paper will be send within five days of the receipt of the abstract. Updates will be available soon in the C PRACSIS website cpracsis.org http://cpracsis.org/ . Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/secretariat/legal/disclaimer.htm -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
