[GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche'
Dear Viswanath, I had earlier committed an error of putting an interview of this lumpen Mutalick. I remember, I think it was Praveen, who pointed out that this in a way giving publicity to otherwise least-to-be-noticed campaigns. There must be guys here only who may be interested to propagate m.lick's views and let them do so.. now there is another one of 1900 mockerjee. .. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:50 AM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: This is exactly a problem raised by u.n.mukherjee in early 1900's.what they are saying about the ending of hindu race.this campaign is getting new political colour through mutaliks --- On *Sat, 7/3/09, johnda...@vsnl.com* wrote: *http://www.timeoutb engaluru. net/client_ coverstory/ client_coverstor y_details. asp?code= 168http://www.timeoutbengaluru.net/client_coverstory/client_coverstory_details.asp?code=168 Pramod Mutalik* Acerbic as ever, Pramod Mutalik's insisting that every Hindu woman bear a brood of 12, reports *Karuna John.* Pramod Mutalik says he really wants the ladies to consummate their marriages and produce dozens of babies. 54-year-old, Mutalik, it appears, is a worried man. He's the chief of the Rashtriya Hindu Sena (the parent organisation of the Sri Ram Sena), who found prominence in the news in late-January, following an incident involving the beating up of young women in a Mangalore pub – an act that he approved. The statement about making babies, however, does have a clarification: it applies only for Hindu women; the rest of you are advised to practice abstinence. The Hindu population is on the decline. A good Hindu woman must have many children. Their motto should be `hum do, hamare baarah bacche' [we two, our's twelve, or 12 children in every family], said Mutalik. Such are the inspirational thoughts that occur to him, he added, in the course of his morning dhyana (meditation) sessions, which give him spiritual strength. Mutalik's day begins at 6am (wherever he is – Mangalore, Udupi, Bangalore, or his hometown Belgaum), when he does some light exercises for 20 minutes, and then reads the newspapers for the next 45 minutes, sipping on his first cup of coffee. I read all the Kannada papers and some English ones – I read 10 papers every day. After my bath, I do `dhyana' and a japa [chant] of mantras given by my guru, he said, insisting on keeping the chant and his guru's name a secret. After 10am, there are meetings scheduled and visits organised by the workers. On an average day, Mutalik really belongs to his workers (volunteers who joined him in his days with the Bajrang Dal) and is herded across the state by them. Lunch is often on the road on such days, maybe a light snack, or a meal at a chosen worker's house. Lunch is wherever I get it, if nothing else, I can survive on biscuits and bananas wherever I am going. I love jowar roti and vegetables. I can cook rice and do not know how to make anything else, said the bachelor. At 54 it's too late for love and marriage for me now. I've never been in love. I'm a brahmachari [celibate], said the man who's referred to by his followers as a guardian of hindutva (or Hindu nationalism) . Hindu ideology apart, there's little else to speak of in terms of the man's career. I've never held a job. I left my home in Hukkeri, Belgaum, 33 years ago. I have no bank account, no belongings. The workers feed and clothe me. In my BCom final, I was influenced by [Vinayak Damodar] Savarkar's teachings. My parents Sumathi Devi and Hanumanth Rao were RSS supporters too and they let me go. My mother was a bit upset, but I was adamant, he explained. If someone asks me for my profession, I say I'm a social worker. After the four days he spent in a Gulbarga prison last month (in preventive custody ahead of Valentine's Day), Mutalik's days are full and his evenings long. On the weekend after his release, he drove from Hubli to Udipi, en route to the Kukke Subramanya temple. Someone told me I have `sarpa dosha' [curse of the snake god]. So I went to the temple and met my guruji, said Mutalik, adjusting a pitambar (a scarf with Ram printed on it) around his neck. A gemstone ring ostensibly protects him from other curses, and he also sports a thick gold ring on his right hand. I don't believe in jyotish [astrology], but my supporters force me to wear this, he said. I'm allergic to politics. I do not accept [BJP chief Lal Krishna] Advani as my leader. He uses hindutva for political reasons. Instead, he's influenced by Narendra Modi [Chief Minister of Gujarat] and Praveen Togadia [General Secretary of the Vishva Hindu Parishad]. Said Mutalik: For them hindutva and development are core issues. After a press meet at Udupi and a coffee- break later, Mutalik puts a fresh dab of kum-kum (vermillion) on his forehead, and heads off to a Dharmasthala at Padubidri for another puja to alleviate the nagging
[GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche'
Yes, but ,this problem is more serious .this is clearly an ideological foundation of this type of politics.in europe,arabs are coming is the basic slogan of this politics.white race and their fertility rate vs arabs and north african muslim migrant population. Not only that,now militant hinduism has got new political relationship with savakerian-RSS ideologies(.Noted scholar christopher jeffrelot observation is correct). and muthalik is representing mody's hindutva and development ideology. Actually,Muthalik represents the core ideology of the present day hindutva politics. --- On Sat, 7/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche' To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:03 AM Dear Viswanath, I had earlier committed an error of putting an interview of this lumpen Mutalick. I remember, I think it was Praveen, who pointed out that this in a way giving publicity to otherwise least-to-be-noticed campaigns. There must be guys here only who may be interested to propagate m.lick's views and let them do so.. now there is another one of 1900 mockerjee. .. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:50 AM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: This is exactly a problem raised by u.n.mukherjee in early 1900's.what they are saying about the ending of hindu race.this campaign is getting new political colour through mutaliks --- On Sat, 7/3/09, johnda...@vsnl.com wrote: http://www.timeoutb engaluru. net/client_ coverstory/ client_coverstor y_details. asp?code= 168 Pramod Mutalik Acerbic as ever, Pramod Mutalik's insisting that every Hindu woman bear a brood of 12, reports Karuna John. Pramod Mutalik says he really wants the ladies to consummate their marriages and produce dozens of babies. 54-year-old, Mutalik, it appears, is a worried man. He's the chief of the Rashtriya Hindu Sena (the parent organisation of the Sri Ram Sena), who found prominence in the news in late-January, following an incident involving the beating up of young women in a Mangalore pub – an act that he approved. The statement about making babies, however, does have a clarification: it applies only for Hindu women; the rest of you are advised to practice abstinence. The Hindu population is on the decline. A good Hindu woman must have many children. Their motto should be `hum do, hamare baarah bacche' [we two, our's twelve, or 12 children in every family], said Mutalik. Such are the inspirational thoughts that occur to him, he added, in the course of his morning dhyana (meditation) sessions, which give him spiritual strength. Mutalik's day begins at 6am (wherever he is – Mangalore, Udupi, Bangalore, or his hometown Belgaum), when he does some light exercises for 20 minutes, and then reads the newspapers for the next 45 minutes, sipping on his first cup of coffee. I read all the Kannada papers and some English ones – I read 10 papers every day. After my bath, I do `dhyana' and a japa [chant] of mantras given by my guru, he said, insisting on keeping the chant and his guru's name a secret. After 10am, there are meetings scheduled and visits organised by the workers. On an average day, Mutalik really belongs to his workers (volunteers who joined him in his days with the Bajrang Dal) and is herded across the state by them. Lunch is often on the road on such days, maybe a light snack, or a meal at a chosen worker's house. Lunch is wherever I get it, if nothing else, I can survive on biscuits and bananas wherever I am going. I love jowar roti and vegetables. I can cook rice and do not know how to make anything else, said the bachelor. At 54 it's too late for love and marriage for me now. I've never been in love. I'm a brahmachari [celibate], said the man who's referred to by his followers as a guardian of hindutva (or Hindu nationalism) . Hindu ideology apart, there's little else to speak of in terms of the man's career. I've never held a job. I left my home in Hukkeri, Belgaum, 33 years ago. I have no bank account, no belongings. The workers feed and clothe me. In my BCom final, I was influenced by [Vinayak Damodar] Savarkar's teachings. My parents Sumathi Devi and Hanumanth Rao were RSS supporters too and they let me go. My mother was a bit upset, but I was adamant, he explained. If someone asks me for my profession, I say I'm a social worker. After the four days he spent in a Gulbarga prison last month (in preventive custody ahead of Valentine's Day), Mutalik's days are full and his evenings long. On the weekend after his release, he drove from Hubli to Udipi, en route to the Kukke Subramanya temple. Someone told me I have `sarpa dosha' [curse of the snake god]. So I went to the temple and met my guruji, said Mutalik, adjusting a pitambar (a scarf with Ram
[GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche'
Your point is right,but Jhon dayal has no choice. What i am saying the unity between savarkarian -rss activists/idealogues.in 1940's their political journey was in different routes.RSS-savarkar politics had more differences in those periods. the present day political context gives a level playing field for this type of politics.they can accommodate very easily xenophobic sivasena and political hindutva of jay dubashi type.. --- On Sat, 7/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche' To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:25 AM How come you say that Militant Hindusim has new found relation with Savarkar's- Hegdewar theories. I think right from the origins it was of the same. or are your referring to the hindu ideologies of Hindu Mahasabha and B.G.Tilak. we all know that all are the same. one say minorities are growing at a rapid rate and some otjer say hindus are declining at a more faster rate. one say birth control for minorities, anorther say fertility cure for majority. both same.. one +one is Big One, says our Basheer. but we need not undertake their press release responsibiity was my simple point. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, but ,this problem is more serious .this is clearly an ideological foundation of this type of politics.in europe,arabs are coming is the basic slogan of this politics.white race and their fertility rate vs arabs and north african muslim migrant population. Not only that,now militant hinduism has got new political relationship with savakerian-RSS ideologies(.Noted scholar christopher jeffrelot observation is correct). and muthalik is representing mody's hindutva and development ideology. Actually,Muthalik represents the core ideology of the present day hindutva politics. --- On Sat, 7/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: For Hindu women from Mutalik: 'Hum do , Hamare Baarah Bacche' To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:03 AM Dear Viswanath, I had earlier committed an error of putting an interview of this lumpen Mutalick. I remember, I think it was Praveen, who pointed out that this in a way giving publicity to otherwise least-to-be-noticed campaigns. There must be guys here only who may be interested to propagate m.lick's views and let them do so.. now there is another one of 1900 mockerjee. ... On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:50 AM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: This is exactly a problem raised by u.n.mukherjee in early 1900's.what they are saying about the ending of hindu race.this campaign is getting new political colour through mutaliks --- On Sat, 7/3/09, johnda...@vsnl.com wrote: http://www.timeoutb engaluru. net/client_ coverstory/ client_coverstor y_details. asp?code= 168 Pramod Mutalik Acerbic as ever, Pramod Mutalik's insisting that every Hindu woman bear a brood of 12, reports Karuna John. Pramod Mutalik says he really wants the ladies to consummate their marriages and produce dozens of babies. 54-year-old, Mutalik, it appears, is a worried man. He's the chief of the Rashtriya Hindu Sena (the parent organisation of the Sri Ram Sena), who found prominence in the news in late-January, following an incident involving the beating up of young women in a Mangalore pub – an act that he approved. The statement about making babies, however, does have a clarification: it applies only for Hindu women; the rest of you are advised to practice abstinence. The Hindu population is on the decline. A good Hindu woman must have many children. Their motto should be `hum do, hamare baarah bacche' [we two, our's twelve, or 12 children in every family], said Mutalik. Such are the inspirational thoughts that occur to him, he added, in the course of his morning dhyana (meditation) sessions, which give him spiritual strength. Mutalik's day begins at 6am (wherever he is – Mangalore, Udupi, Bangalore, or his hometown Belgaum), when he does some light exercises for 20 minutes, and then reads the newspapers for the next 45 minutes, sipping on his first cup of coffee. I read all the Kannada papers and some English ones – I read 10 papers every day. After my bath, I do `dhyana' and a japa [chant] of mantras given by my guru, he said, insisting on keeping the chant and his guru's name a secret. After 10am, there are meetings scheduled and visits organised by the workers. On an average day, Mutalik really belongs to his workers (volunteers who joined him in his days with the Bajrang Dal) and is herded across the state by them. Lunch is often on the road on such days, maybe a light snack, or a meal
