Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
There are bugs in "page-a.ms". The last one is for a trailing space. Found by using the options "-ww -b -z" (except the trailing space) and patched HDTBL macros. --- page-a.ms 2023-12-16 17:42:06.0 + +++ page-a.new.ms 2023-12-16 18:06:58.0 + @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ .. \Z'\ \h'-1i'\v'10.52i'\ -\X'ps: import floral-border.eps 0 0 595 842 594000' +\X'ps: import floral-border.eps 0 0 595 842 594000'' .so macros.ms \#.fam source .sp -.5c @@ -21,10 +21,10 @@ \Z'\v'0.5m'\D'P 0 -1.7m \n[bwd]u 0 0 1.7m -\n[bwd]u 0'\v'-0.5m''\ \X'ps: exec 1 setgray'\0with Open Source Software\0 \Z'\ - +' \#.PSPIC -C page-symbol.eps 2i .LP -\*[DGREY]\f[B]Duis ac purus elementum, posuere metus nec, porttitor mauris aliquam scelerisque lacus ultrice.\f[R] Sollicitudin libero a, iaculis augue. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Aliquam condimentum luctus urna vel sodales. Etiam leo justo, lacinia id vehicula eu, facilisis sit amet nunc. +\*[DGREY]\f[B]Duis ac purus elementum, posuere metus nec, porttitor mauris aliquam scelerisque lacus ultrice.\f[R] Sollicitudin libero a, iaculis augue. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Aliquam condimentum luctus urna vel sodales. Etiam leo justo, lacinia id vehicula eu, facilisis sit amet nunc. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Aliquam condimentum luctus urna vel sodales. Etiam leo justo, lacinia id vehicula eu, facilisis sit amet nunc. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Aliquam condimentum luctus urna vel sodales. .br .po .93i
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 02:59:15AM +0100, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > > > > Here is another example where, when the table doesn't fit on the page, > > it vanishes and is not carried over to the following page. > > As far as I can tell, hdtbl does not start a new page by itself > when a table does not fit, but invoking t*hm will output any > held tables. The way you have set this up to be called from > pg@top will print the table, but you have to explicitly request > a new page with .bp at the end, or provide more running text > (not inside TBL/ETB) so that ms will eventually start a new page. > The reason are bugs in the hdtbl macros as shown in the bug ticket #64772 (comment #9, 2013-11-07), named "[hdtbl] consider deprecating", in the attached file "hdtbl.tmac.diff" (https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=groff). Also look a bug ticket #64967 grops.1.man..."HDTBL" > However, I think that in this particular case the problem is > not having the page length correctly set. Can you try using > .pl 29.7c somewhere near the top? > > The page format does not fix the bugs in the hdtbl macros. Simpler is to change the page size on the command line by adding -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 define "paper" for the formatter, add option "-pa4" for the output device. The default paper size should be defined in "tmac/troffrc" before "papersize.tmac" is sourced, for example with . do if !d paper .do ds paper A4\" use $(PAGE) to configure
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
I get a somewhat different result as the paragraph "Company Four" is entirely on the first page. That is without any change to the provided files. There are also these warning, but the do not seem to interfere with the output. The pdf-file with "Page size = letter" is in the attachment. groff -b -ww -z ... troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':19 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:19: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':19 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:19: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':19 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:19: warning: numeric expression missing troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':28 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:28: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':28 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:28: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':28 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:28: warning: numeric expression missing troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':37 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:37: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':37 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:37: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':37 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:37: warning: numeric expression missing troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':46 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:46: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':46 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:46: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':46 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:46: warning: numeric expression missing troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':55 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:55: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':55 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:55: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':55 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:55: warning: numeric expression missing troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':113: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':64 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:64: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':115: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':64 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:64: warning: missing closing delimiter in output comparison operator (got a newline) troff: backtrace: 'hdtbl-issue-macros.ms':117: macro 'WORKBL' troff: backtrace: file 'hdtbl-issue.ms':64 troff:hdtbl-issue.ms:64: warning: numeric expression missing hdtbl-issue.latest.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
> Seems to work if you add:- > > .am pg@top > . t*hm > .. That appears to have worked. Thank you for pointing that out. Very much appreciated! Kind regards, Mike
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
On Tuesday, 5 December 2023 16:57:26 GMT Mike wrote: > > Can you prepare a pair of exhibits for us to test? One that doesn't > > show the problem, and one with as minimal a change as you can make to > > cause it to happen? > > Yes. I am attaching 3 documents: > >- A stripped down section of the CV template (hdtbl-issue.ms). >- A macro file demonstrating the issue (hdtbl-issue-macros.ms). >- A macro file demonstrating a temporary fix (hdtbl-issue-macros- >working.ms). > > > The command I have been using to compile: > >groff -ms -m hdtbl hdtbl-issue.ms > hdtbl-issue.ps && ps2pdf hdtbl- >issue.ps hdtbl-issue.pdf > > Environment: Manjaro Linux > > The "working" macro file has only one change. Line 72 contains .ne 1.5i > > > Studying the differences between the two and the macros and requests > > they do or don't call will likely help us to pinpoint the issue. > > That would be amazing! Thank you for looking into this. > > Kind regards, > > Mike Hi Mike, Seems to work if you add:- .am pg@top . t*hm .. Somewhere near the top of hdtbl-issue.ms. The man page says:- A table which does not fit on a partially filled page is printed automatically on the top of the next page if you append the little utility macro t*hm to the page header macro of your document’s main macro package. For example, say .am pg@top . t*hm .. if you use the ms macro package. Cheers Deri
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
> Can you prepare a pair of exhibits for us to test? One that doesn't > show the problem, and one with as minimal a change as you can make to > cause it to happen? Yes. I am attaching 3 documents: - A stripped down section of the CV template (hdtbl-issue.ms). - A macro file demonstrating the issue (hdtbl-issue-macros.ms). - A macro file demonstrating a temporary fix (hdtbl-issue-macros- working.ms). The command I have been using to compile: groff -ms -m hdtbl hdtbl-issue.ms > hdtbl-issue.ps && ps2pdf hdtbl- issue.ps hdtbl-issue.pdf Environment: Manjaro Linux The "working" macro file has only one change. Line 72 contains .ne 1.5i > Studying the differences between the two and the macros and requests > they do or don't call will likely help us to pinpoint the issue. That would be amazing! Thank you for looking into this. Kind regards, Mike .so hdtbl-issue-macros.ms .fam T .nr PS 10p .nr VS 15p .ds t*bgc white\" background color .ds t*fgc textcolor\" foreground color .ds t*bc linecolor\" border color .nr t*cpd 0.02n\" cell padding .br .sp -.4c .heading "Professional Experience" .WORK \ "2018 - 2023" \ "Job Title" \ "Company One" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .WORK \ "2014 - 2018" \ "Job Title" \ "Company Two" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .WORK \ "2010 - 2014" \ "Job Title" \ "Company Three" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .WORK \ "2010 - 2014" \ "Job Title" \ "Company Four" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .WORK \ "2010 - 2014" \ "Job Title" \ "Company Five" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .WORK \ "2010 - 2014" \ "Job Title" \ "Company Six" \ "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam." .WORKBL \ "Achievement one" \ "Achievement two" .de BL .IP \(bu 2 .. .ds ACCENT "\X'ps: exec .1 .3 .6 setrgbcolor' .ds GREY "\X'ps: exec .7 .7 .7 setrgbcolor' .ds DGREY "\X'ps: exec .3 .3 .3 setrgbcolor' .ds RED "\X'ps: exec 1 0 0 setrgbcolor' .ds BLUE "\X'ps: exec 0 0 1 setrgbcolor' .ds BLACK "\X'ps: exec 0 0 0 setrgbcolor' .ds WHITE "\X'ps: exec 1 1 1 setrgbcolor' .defcolor textcolor rgb #353535 .defcolor linecolor rgb #a1a1a1 .de smallcaps .nr .sc.ps (\\n[.s]*75/100) .nr .cap.PS \\n[.s] .char a \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]A\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char b \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]B\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char c \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]C\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char d \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]D\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char e \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]E\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char f \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]F\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char g \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]G\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char h \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]H\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char i \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]I\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char j \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]J\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char k \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]K\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char l \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]L\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char m \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]M\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char n \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]N\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char o \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]O\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char p \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]P\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char q \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]Q\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char r \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]R\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char s \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]S\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char t \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]T\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char u \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]U\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char v \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]V\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char w \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]W\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char x \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]X\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char y \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]Y\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .char z \s[\\n[.sc.ps]]Z\s[\\n[.cap.PS]] .. .de /smallcaps .rchar a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z .. .de BL .sp .1c .ti .5c \[bu]\ \ \ .. .de heading .rs .nf .ps 12 .sp 1c \*[ACCENT] .smallcaps .B "\\$1" ./smallcaps \m[textcolor]\ .sp -.2c \*[GREY]\l'\n(.lu*100u/100u'\*[DGREY] .ps 10 .fi .. .de SC .smallcaps .B "\\$1" ./smallcaps .. .de WORK \#.ne 1.5i .TBL cols=2 vl=s hl= border=0 width='18% 82%' fsz='1.0 1.2' .TR .TD hal=r \\$1\ .TD .smallcaps .B "\ \\$2" ./smallcaps
Re: Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
[Mike CCed just to be sure he gets this] Hi Mike, At 2023-12-04T18:43:15+, Mike wrote: > I am new to groff. I am more a designer than a coder, so my > understanding here may be lacking. No worries. This list is definitely not just for programmers. > I created a CV template using groff + ms macros + tbl + hdtbl. To be > fair, it worked wonderfully. I was able to replicate what I had > previously done with LaTeX. Including adding hdtbl table entries with > macros. I'm glad to hear it! > There is just one issue. I cannot get my head around why the tables > created by hdtbl vanish as they approach the footer. > > If I place 6 tables in a row, tables one two and three will show on > the first page, then tables 4,5 and 6 are gone. the following content > is seen on the next page but not the tables (they appear to have been > swallowed). > > I noticed, however, that a page break after the 3rd table causes the > next 3 to appear on the following page. One caveat, sometimes when > content moves, one of the middle tables (3 or 4) vanishes again, while > the last few flow onto the next page. > > Perhaps this is by design and I am just naive to it, but I would love > to know the cause and what I could do for reliable results. I'm not aware of this being a "known problem" of hdtbl or something you would be expected to anticipate. This will require some troubleshooting on our part, I think. hdtbl is not exactly actively maintained; it's a "contrib" component that groff bundles for convenience, but its author has not been seen on this mailing list in years. Can you prepare a pair of exhibits for us to test? One that doesn't show the problem, and one with as minimal a change as you can make to cause it to happen? Studying the differences between the two and the macros and requests they do or don't call will likely help us to pinpoint the issue. Regards, Branden signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Groff hdtbl tables disappear near the footer
Hello, I am new to groff. I am more a designer than a coder, so my understanding here may be lacking. I created a CV template using groff + ms macros + tbl + hdtbl. To be fair, it worked wonderfully. I was able to replicate what I had previously done with LaTeX. Including adding hdtbl table entries with macros. There is just one issue. I cannot get my head around why the tables created by hdtbl vanish as they approach the footer. If I place 6 tables in a row, tables one two and three will show on the first page, then tables 4,5 and 6 are gone. the following content is seen on the next page but not the tables (they appear to have been swallowed). I noticed, however, that a page break after the 3rd table causes the next 3 to appear on the following page. One caveat, sometimes when content moves, one of the middle tables (3 or 4) vanishes again, while the last few flow onto the next page. Perhaps this is by design and I am just naive to it, but I would love to know the cause and what I could do for reliable results. Kind regards, Mike
