[gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread 折晓会
Dear all,

I used Gromacs 5.0.5 to generate a trajectory of polarizable water system with 
SWM4-NDP model, and then tried to use a custom version Gromacs 4.5.5 to 
calculate local pressure of the system. When I generate the .tpr file with 
Gromacs 4.5.5, an error coccurs:

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

What does this mean? How should I solve this problem?

Any help will be appreciated!

Best wishes,

Xiaohui She
University of Wisconsin-Madison

  
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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 1:03 PM, 折晓会 wrote:

Dear all,

I used Gromacs 5.0.5 to generate a trajectory of polarizable water system with 
SWM4-NDP model, and then tried to use a custom version Gromacs 4.5.5 to 
calculate local pressure of the system. When I generate the .tpr file with 
Gromacs 4.5.5, an error coccurs:

Fatal error:
Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

What does this mean? How should I solve this problem?



This means that you have too many parameters on some line related to the 
[polarization] directive.  Isotropic polarization takes one value (alpha), so 
that's all that is allowed.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi Anthony,


Good choice, your admins should be able to help. Do emphasize when talking
to them that you need your job to be placed as compact as possible, on
the closest possible set of cores with the tightest possible affinity
settings.

Cheers,

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Szilárd

 Thanks for all of that advice. I’m going to have to take a lot of this up
 with the Cluster Service Staff. This is a new cluster service I won a
 grant for, thus not my usual platform which would typically yield an
 imbalance of somewhere around 0.8% to 2%.

 Thanks again
 Anthony



 On 20/08/2015 16:52, Szilárd Páll pall.szil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You're not pinning threads and it seems that you're running on a large SMP
 machine! Assuming that the 512 threads reported (line 91) is correct
 that's
 a 32 socket SMP machine, perhaps an SGI UV? In any case Xeon E5-4xxx is
 typically deployed in 4-8 socket installations, so your 8 threads will be
 floating around on a number of CPUs which ruins your performance - and
 likely contributes to the varying and large load imbalance.
 
 My advice:
 - don't ignore notes/warnings issued by mdrun (line 366, should be on the
 standard out too), we put quite some though into spamming users only when
 relevant :)
 - pin mdrun and/or its threads either with -pin on (and -pinoffset if
 needed) or with whatever tools your admins provide/recommend
 
 [Extras: consider using FFTW even with the Intel compilers it's often
 faster for our small FFTs than MKL; and GNU iso Intel compiler is often
 faster too.]
 
 Fixing the above issues should not only reduce imbalance but most likely
 also allow you to gain quite some simulation performance! Let us know if
 it
 worked.
 
 Cheers,
 
 --
 Szilárd
 
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  Many thanks for looking into this.
 
  One of the log files (the job hasn’t finished running) is here:
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwrro54yni2uxtn/umb_3_umb.log?dl=0
 
  The system is a soluble collagenase in water with a collagen substrate
 and
  two zinc co-factors. There are 287562 atoms in the system.
 
  Please let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks!
 
  Anthony
 
 
 
 
 
  On 20/08/2015 11:39, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation,
 and
  share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both
 the
  things mdrun reports early and late.
  
  Mark
  
  On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk
 wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs.
 Values
   starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of
  around
   0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).
  
   When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:
  
   Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
   Dynamic load balancing: auto
   Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
   Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
   two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
 multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116
 3123
   Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
   Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans:
  0.862 nm
   Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
   This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
  -rcon
   Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
ranks for efficient splitting
   Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
   Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of
 1.077
  nm
   The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
   Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
   PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
   Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
   Using 8 MPI processes
   Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process
  
  
  
  
   Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
   consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
   number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply
 be a
   case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around
 with
   P-LINCS parameters?
  
   Thanks
   Anthony
  
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[gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Nash, Anthony
Hi all,

I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs. Values
starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of around
0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).

When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:

Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
Dynamic load balancing: auto
Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116 3123
Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.862 nm
Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with -rcon
Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
 ranks for efficient splitting
Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.077 nm
The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
Using 8 MPI processes
Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process




Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply be a
case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around with
P-LINCS parameters?

Thanks
Anthony

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[gmx-users] atom types IP and IM

2015-08-20 Thread mohammad r
Hi;
 I've used ff14sbamber force field to generate my system. As this force field 
doesn'texist in gromacs, I generated the first structure of my system withamber 
tools then I converted the topology and coordinate files intogromacs format by 
using acpype. (In the amber tools I've added NaClto my system). Now in the 
converted topology file I have these lines:
[ moleculetype ] ; molname nrexcl NA+ 1
[ atoms ] ; id_ at typeres nr residu name at name cg nr charge mass 1 IP 1 NA+ 
NA+ 1 1 22.9898
[ moleculetype ] ; molname nrexcl CL- 1
[ atoms ] ; id_ at typeres nr residu name at name cg nr charge mass 1 IM 1 CL- 
CL- 1 -1 35.45300
As we can see, wehave IP and IM atom types for Na+ and Cl- ions respectively. 
When Iwant to run energy minimization with the grompp command I get thiserror:
Fatal error: Atomtype IP not found For more information and tips for 
troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS  website at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
I think that itcannot recognize IP atom type. What should I do?
Thank you, Mohammad
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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 6:05 PM, 折晓会 wrote:

Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error which comes from the decimals 
of the box dimensions. Initially, my box dimensions are 4.5*4.5*16 nm3 and the 
local pressure calculation does not work, but after I change them to be 
integers 4*4*16 nm3 in the gro file, the simulation works. It is strange for 
me. I do not know why.



I fail to see how making the box smaller solves a box too small error, and 
moreover, making changes like this is going to affect the results.  Don't 
consider this a solution.  Probably an indication of a bug.  So you're just 
reading in a .gro file?  Does a single coordinate file trigger the error before, 
or was that from an actual trajectory?


-Justin


Best wishes,
Xiaohui


Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:44:58 -0400
From: jalem...@vt.edu
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 
or 1 for Polarization.



On 8/20/15 4:01 PM, 折晓会 wrote:

Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error with your suggestion.

When I use mdrun -rerun to calculate the local pressure, another error occurs:

Fatal error:
Rerun trajectory frame step 60 time 600.00 has too small box dimensions

What does this mean?



It means your box is too small.  What are the box dimensions in that frame, and
what are the cutoffs you are using?

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] AIX XLC Gromacs-5.1-rc1. Undefined reference. Underscore issue.

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

GROMACS 5.1 is out, please don't install 5.1-rc1 any more. There's a little
bit of advice about using custom linear algebra libraries at
http://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/5.1/install-guide/index.html#linear-algebra-libraries
but
you don't need to bother with such libraries unless you know mdrun will be
used to do normal-mode analysis or something. You might still run into
problems - if so, we'll want to know how you ran cmake in the first place.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:20 AM Carlos Aguni sorla...@gmail.com wrote:

 Helo guys!

 I'm trying to compile Gromacs-5.1-rc1 with XLC 13.1.2  ESSL 5.3 and I'm
 facing
 an undefined reference error.
 Here's what I got:

 $ cd /home/ibm/crash/gromacs-agosto/2/gromacs-5.1-rc1/single/share/template
  /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/template.dir/link.txt
 --verbose=1

 $ /usr/bin/mpixlc++-qarch=auto -qaltivec   -std=c++0x -qnoinline -O0
 -qsmp=omp -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wpointer-arith -Wall
 -Wno-unused-function  -O3 -DNDEBUG  -qextname
 CMakeFiles/template.dir/template.cpp.o  -o ../../bin/template -rdynamic
 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0 -ldl -lrt -lessl -L/usr/lib -lessl
 -L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/ -lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -Wl,-rpath,\$ORIGIN/../lib

 /opt/ibm/xlC/13.1.2/bin/.orig/xlc++: warning: 1501-218 file
 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0 contains an incorrect file suffix

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlaev2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dorm2r_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to
 `gmx_fft_init_1d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlascl_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slaev2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slarnv_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slartg_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlasr_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to
 `gmx_fft_init_2d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `ssyevr_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slasr_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `sorm2r_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlaset_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slacpy_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlapy2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlarnv_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to
 `gmx_fft_get_version_info'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slanst_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dgeqr2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `sgeqr2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_cleanup'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `ssteqr_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dsteqr_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlacpy_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slapy2_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlartg_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_destroy'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slascl_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slaset_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlanst_'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_2d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `gmx_fft_init_1d'

 I think that's an underscore problem. Because ESSL has those functions but
 the

 flags responsible to solve that (-qextname -qnoextname) isn't working:

 $ objdump -x /usr/lib/libessl.so | grep dlaev2

  ldf *ABS* 
 /home/essl/src/work/dlaev2.f

 00aa67a0 l F .text 023c  0x60 dlaev2

 $ objdump -x /usr/lib/libessl.so | grep dlacpy

  ldf *ABS* 
 /home/essl/src/work/dlacpyd.f

  ldf *ABS* 
 /home/essl/src/work/dlacpy.f

 00a99ca0 l F .text 0440  0x60 dlacpyd

 00a9a0e0 l F .text 03b0  0x60 dlacpy


 Can anyone help?


 Thanks in advance!

 Carlos.
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding HSD residue to AMBER ff99SB-ILDN

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 3:17 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a .pdb file of the WW domain of human FIP35 protein extracted from
an MD calculation obtained with AMBER ff99SB-ILDN and solvent type tip3.
Now I need to obtain the topology out of it, but the .pdb contains a
residue, namely HSD, which is not present in the Amber residue database. I
looked at the source files and found out that CHARMM has it. In particular,
this is what you can find in the CHARMM database:

[ HSD ]
  [ atoms ]
N NH1 -0.47 0
HN H 0.31 1
CA CT1 0.07 2
HA HB 0.09 3
CB CT2 -0.09 4
HB1 HA 0.09 5
HB2 HA 0.09 6
ND1 NR1 -0.36 7
HD1 H 0.32 8
CG CPH1 -0.05 9
CE1 CPH2 0.25 10
HE1 HR1 0.13 11
NE2 NR2 -0.70 12
CD2 CPH1 0.22 13
HD2 HR3 0.10 14
C C 0.51 15
O O -0.51 16
  [ bonds ]
CB CA
CG CB
ND1 CG
CE1 ND1
NE2 CD2
N HN
N CA
C CA
C +N
CA HA
CB HB1
CB HB2
ND1 HD1
CD2 HD2
CE1 HE1
O C
CG CD2
CE1 NE2
  [ impropers ]
ND1 CG CE1 HD1
CD2 CG NE2 HD2
CE1 ND1 NE2 HE1
ND1 CE1 CG HD1
CD2 NE2 CG HD2
CE1 NE2 ND1 HE1
N -C CA HN
C CA +N O
  [ cmap ]
-C N CA C +N

Is there any possible way in which I can copy and paste this in the Amber
database and hope it will work correctly? Thank you very much!!!



No, you can't copy and paste, because then you're mixing force fields and that 
is bad practice.  HSD is just delta-protonated HIS, which is already in AMBER. 
It's just called HID, so rename your coordinate files appropriately and you can 
generate the topology.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] CHARMM forcefield parameters for carbon naotubes

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 7:53 AM, Sanchaita Rajkhowa wrote:

Dear all,
 I am trying to simulate a carbon nano-tube using CHARMM27 forcefield
but I can't get it right. I have been following the modeling carbon
nano-tubes with gromacs (http://chembytes.wikidot.com/grocnt) but it is
done using opls-aa forcefield.  I have tried in a similar way and I keep
getting errors:
---
Opening force field file ./test.ff/ffcharmm.n2t
There are 5 name to type translations in file ./test.ff
Generating bonds from distances...
atom 80
There are 1 different atom types in your sample
Generating angles and dihedrals from bonds...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
---

If anyone has done the simulation of a CNT using CHARMM27 forcefield then
please help.



Make sure use version 5.1 as a bug that caused this seg fault was fixed. 
Anything in the 5.0.x series will be affected (and IIRC also 4.6.6).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding HSD residue to AMBER ff99SB-ILDN

2015-08-20 Thread Simone Bolognini
Thank you for your answer! I did it and now gromacs throws me the following
error: Atom HG1 in residue SER 2 was not found in rtp entry SER with 11
atoms while sorting atoms.. Any clue? Thank you very much.

Il giorno gio 20 ago 2015 alle ore 13:18 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu ha
scritto:



 On 8/20/15 3:17 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  I have a .pdb file of the WW domain of human FIP35 protein extracted from
  an MD calculation obtained with AMBER ff99SB-ILDN and solvent type tip3.
  Now I need to obtain the topology out of it, but the .pdb contains a
  residue, namely HSD, which is not present in the Amber residue database.
 I
  looked at the source files and found out that CHARMM has it. In
 particular,
  this is what you can find in the CHARMM database:
 
  [ HSD ]
[ atoms ]
  N NH1 -0.47 0
  HN H 0.31 1
  CA CT1 0.07 2
  HA HB 0.09 3
  CB CT2 -0.09 4
  HB1 HA 0.09 5
  HB2 HA 0.09 6
  ND1 NR1 -0.36 7
  HD1 H 0.32 8
  CG CPH1 -0.05 9
  CE1 CPH2 0.25 10
  HE1 HR1 0.13 11
  NE2 NR2 -0.70 12
  CD2 CPH1 0.22 13
  HD2 HR3 0.10 14
  C C 0.51 15
  O O -0.51 16
[ bonds ]
  CB CA
  CG CB
  ND1 CG
  CE1 ND1
  NE2 CD2
  N HN
  N CA
  C CA
  C +N
  CA HA
  CB HB1
  CB HB2
  ND1 HD1
  CD2 HD2
  CE1 HE1
  O C
  CG CD2
  CE1 NE2
[ impropers ]
  ND1 CG CE1 HD1
  CD2 CG NE2 HD2
  CE1 ND1 NE2 HE1
  ND1 CE1 CG HD1
  CD2 NE2 CG HD2
  CE1 NE2 ND1 HE1
  N -C CA HN
  C CA +N O
[ cmap ]
  -C N CA C +N
 
  Is there any possible way in which I can copy and paste this in the
 Amber
  database and hope it will work correctly? Thank you very much!!!
 

 No, you can't copy and paste, because then you're mixing force fields and
 that
 is bad practice.  HSD is just delta-protonated HIS, which is already in
 AMBER.
 It's just called HID, so rename your coordinate files appropriately and
 you can
 generate the topology.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation, and
share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both the
things mdrun reports early and late.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs. Values
 starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of around
 0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).

 When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:

 Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
 Dynamic load balancing: auto
 Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
 Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
 two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
   multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116 3123
 Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
 Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.862 nm
 Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
 This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with -rcon
 Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
  ranks for efficient splitting
 Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
 Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.077 nm
 The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
 Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
 PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
 Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
 Using 8 MPI processes
 Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process




 Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
 consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
 number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply be a
 case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around with
 P-LINCS parameters?

 Thanks
 Anthony

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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv -dt issue

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

This is indeed problematic. The .edr format (and its tools) are designed
with limitations that were not really a problem 10 years ago. One of the
limitations is that the time itself is stored in the same precision as the
simulation data, and this starts to lose precision as the simulation
proceeds into the millions of MD steps.

I think your practical course is to keep the simulation in the chunks that
you already have, and do your subsampling from them. You may get a better
result if you pre-process each chunk to start from zero time (or making
smaller chunks if you need to). This will help by keeping the side of the
stride closer to the absolute value of the time.

Another alternative is to pre-process the chunks with a double-precision
eneconv, which will write the times in double precision. That won't help if
they're stored wrongly in the first place, but may help you handle some
longer trajectory (at cost of more disk space).

Mark

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:50 PM Matthias Ernst 
matthias.er...@physik.uni-freiburg.de wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a quite long continuous trajectory coming from several initial
 input pieces (cluster crashed...) that I want to downsample, as a start
 from 0.5ps timestep in the source files to just 1ps and later bigger
 timesteps.

 Using the -dt option of trjconv (GROMACS 4.6.5.), there seem to be
 rounding issues which leads to times at .5ps being written from some
 timestamp on (4.1943e+06). Is this a known behaviour?

 Related to this, what does the following sentence in the help for
 trjconv -dt mean:
 This option relies on the accuracy of the times in your input
 trajectory, so if these are inaccurate use the -timestep option to
 modify the time (this can be done simultaneously).
 How can I change the input timestep to get a proper output of output
 frames? I tried to use -timestep 1 it to my trajectory with 0.5ps
 timestep and it seems to produce correct timestamps in 1ps steps in
 the output file but the coordinates still are those of the initial
 frames with the 0.5ps timestamps, meaning it just relabels the
 timestamps of the frames. Using -timestep 0.5 -dt 1 together does not
 change the result compared to -dt 1 only.

 If I rather use the -t0 0 option, I can reset the time of the first
 frame and then, it looks like it writes the correct 1ps stepped frames
 with 1ps timestamps, but starting at time 0. As I have several
 trajectory pieces from a continuous timeseries to concatenate, I would
 have to run trjconv once more just to correct and reset the time to
 its initial value, which means a lot of unnecessary data transfer,
 especially in the case of long trajectories.
 Is this really necessary or is there another way to get a proper
 downsampling?
 I know I can use  the -skip 2 option but e.g. not for eneconv which only
 supports -dt and has the same issues. Further, just using -skip 2 is not
 possible if some input files are at 0.5ps, but some other already at 1ps
 time steps.

 Thank you for your help,
 Matthias

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[gmx-users] CHARMM forcefield parameters for carbon naotubes

2015-08-20 Thread Sanchaita Rajkhowa
Dear all,
I am trying to simulate a carbon nano-tube using CHARMM27 forcefield
but I can't get it right. I have been following the modeling carbon
nano-tubes with gromacs (http://chembytes.wikidot.com/grocnt) but it is
done using opls-aa forcefield.  I have tried in a similar way and I keep
getting errors:
---
Opening force field file ./test.ff/ffcharmm.n2t
There are 5 name to type translations in file ./test.ff
Generating bonds from distances...
atom 80
There are 1 different atom types in your sample
Generating angles and dihedrals from bonds...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
---

If anyone has done the simulation of a CNT using CHARMM27 forcefield then
please help.


Thank you.
Regards,
Sanchaita.
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding HSD residue to AMBER ff99SB-ILDN

2015-08-20 Thread Simone Bolognini
Well... that was a rookie mistake. Sorry about that. Thank you!

Il giorno gio 20 ago 2015 alle ore 14:18 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu ha
scritto:



 On 8/20/15 8:16 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:
  Thank you for your answer! I did it and now gromacs throws me the
 following
  error: Atom HG1 in residue SER 2 was not found in rtp entry SER with 11
  atoms while sorting atoms.. Any clue? Thank you very much.
 

 pdb2gmx -ignh

 -Justin

  Il giorno gio 20 ago 2015 alle ore 13:18 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 ha
  scritto:
 
 
 
  On 8/20/15 3:17 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  I have a .pdb file of the WW domain of human FIP35 protein extracted
 from
  an MD calculation obtained with AMBER ff99SB-ILDN and solvent type
 tip3.
  Now I need to obtain the topology out of it, but the .pdb contains a
  residue, namely HSD, which is not present in the Amber residue
 database.
  I
  looked at the source files and found out that CHARMM has it. In
  particular,
  this is what you can find in the CHARMM database:
 
  [ HSD ]
 [ atoms ]
  N NH1 -0.47 0
  HN H 0.31 1
  CA CT1 0.07 2
  HA HB 0.09 3
  CB CT2 -0.09 4
  HB1 HA 0.09 5
  HB2 HA 0.09 6
  ND1 NR1 -0.36 7
  HD1 H 0.32 8
  CG CPH1 -0.05 9
  CE1 CPH2 0.25 10
  HE1 HR1 0.13 11
  NE2 NR2 -0.70 12
  CD2 CPH1 0.22 13
  HD2 HR3 0.10 14
  C C 0.51 15
  O O -0.51 16
 [ bonds ]
  CB CA
  CG CB
  ND1 CG
  CE1 ND1
  NE2 CD2
  N HN
  N CA
  C CA
  C +N
  CA HA
  CB HB1
  CB HB2
  ND1 HD1
  CD2 HD2
  CE1 HE1
  O C
  CG CD2
  CE1 NE2
 [ impropers ]
  ND1 CG CE1 HD1
  CD2 CG NE2 HD2
  CE1 ND1 NE2 HE1
  ND1 CE1 CG HD1
  CD2 NE2 CG HD2
  CE1 NE2 ND1 HE1
  N -C CA HN
  C CA +N O
 [ cmap ]
  -C N CA C +N
 
  Is there any possible way in which I can copy and paste this in the
  Amber
  database and hope it will work correctly? Thank you very much!!!
 
 
  No, you can't copy and paste, because then you're mixing force fields
 and
  that
  is bad practice.  HSD is just delta-protonated HIS, which is already in
  AMBER.
  It's just called HID, so rename your coordinate files appropriately and
  you can
  generate the topology.
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Error while configuring gmx-3.3.1

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Apparently the 3.3.1 install isn't working well for you. You can use cp -R
gromacs-3.3.1/share/top/* /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ which is a standard
unix command.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:52 AM Padmani Sandhu padmanisandh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Justin,


 I have copied both the .itp files which were giving error in to
 /usr/local/gromacs/share/top using command:

 sudo cp BH4_oplsaa.itp /usr/local/gromacs/share/top

 sudo cp ffoplsaabon.itp /usr/local/gromacs/share/top

 and now grompp worked. Please can you suggest me any solution so that all
 the files in *gromacs-3.3.1/share/top *can be copied to
 */usr/local/gromacs/share/top.*



 Thanks


 Padmani


 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Padmani Sandhu padmanisandh...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

  1. I am using it with CPMD as they have mentioned this version of gromacs
  only.
  2. The top-level force fields are not included as they are not present in
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ file  for eg. BH4_oplsaa.itp, however its
  there in the gmx-3.3.1_qmmm-1.3.2/share/top folder.
  3. There is no problem with topology, its working fine with gromacs-4.5.6
  and later versions.
 
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
  Padmani
 
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 
 
  On 8/19/15 7:58 AM, Padmani Sandhu wrote:
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  I am trying to install gmx-3.3.1 on ubuntu 14.04. I have compiled it
  using
  following commands:
 
 
  Any reason you're using wildly outdated software?
 
  ./configure
  make
  sudo make install
 
  *However the program was installed but while running grommp, it was
  terminated with  an error :*
 
  checking input for internal consistency...
  calling cpp...
  In file included from /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ffoplsaa.itp:23:0,
from topol.top:11:
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ffoplsaabon.itp:2692:26: fatal error:
  BH4_oplsaa.itp: No such file or directory
#include BH4_oplsaa.itp
 
^
 
  compilation terminated.
 
 
  You probably shouldn't be #including files in top-level force field
 files.
 
  cpp exit code: 256
  Tried to execute: 'cpp  -I/usr/local/gromacs/share/top  topol.top 
  gromppVUW784'
  The 'cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
  processing topology...
  processing coordinates...
  ---
  Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
  Source code file: grompp.c, line: 448
 
  Fatal error:
  number of coordinates in coordinate file (conf_solv.gro, 317253)
does not match topology (topol.top, 0)
 
 
  Your topology is totally wrong or misformatted.
 
 
  *I had an error while running ./configure that might be causing this
  problem*
 
  configure: creating ./config.status
  config.status: creating Makefile
  config.status: WARNING:  Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir
  setting
  config.status: creating src/Makefile
  config.status: WARNING:  src/Makefile.in seems to ignore the
  --datarootdir
  setting
 
 
  This is not related.
 
  -Justin
 
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[gmx-users] A query about nsteps

2015-08-20 Thread anu chandra
Dear gromcas users,

I carried out a continuation of previous md run for nsteps of 500 and
dt of  0.002 using the following commands,

gmx grompp -f md.mdp -o md2.tpr -c md1.gro -t md1.cpt -r ref.pdb -n
index.ndx -p topol.top

gmx_mpi mdrun -cpi md1.cpt -deffnm md2


The mdp file following run parameters,

***
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.002
nsteps  = 500
;
nstlog  = 1000
nstxout = 0
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstcalcenergy   = 100
nstenergy   = 1000
nstxout-compressed  = 2
compressed-x-grps   = System
;
cutoff-scheme   = Verlet
nstlist = 20
rlist   = 1.2
coulombtype = pme
rcoulomb= 1.2
vdwtype = Cut-off
vdw-modifier= Force-switch
rvdw_switch = 1.0
rvdw= 1.2
;
pbc = xyz
;
gen_vel = no
;
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover
tc_grps = Protein POPC CL_SOL
tau_t   = 0.50.5 0.5
ref_t   = 305.0305.0305.0
;
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic
tau_p   = 5.0
compressibility = 4.5e-5   4.5e-5
ref_p   = 1.0 1.0
;
constraints = h-bonds
constraint_algorithm= LINCS
continuation= yes
;
nstcomm = 100
comm_mode   = linear
comm_grps   = Protein_POPC CL_SOL
;
refcoord_scaling= com
**

Though the run completed successfully, I just noticed from the log file
that the simulation carried out only for 350 steps, instead of 500
steps. It looks to me that the simulation started from the previous run
that completed 150 steps and the current run went from the next 350
steps to complete the total run for 500 steps. Why this happened? Why
it counted total run as 500 steps rather than continue the current for
another 500 steps?

Also, I also noticed that the XTC file is written with 176 frames instead
of 175 frames (i.e. 350/2)? Is it writing the last step of the
previous run again?

Below is the head and tail of the log file.

***
Started mdrun on rank 0 Wed Aug 19 13:21:50 2015
   Step   Time Lambda
150 3000.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   BondU-BProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  CMAP Dih.
2.68385e+041.29842e+059.81752e+042.12606e+031.22039e+02
  LJ-14 Coulomb-14LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
1.92413e+04   -3.79314e+048.94538e+04   -2.15678e+068.56903e+03
 Position Rest.  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
1.19967e+03  -1.81913e+064.40840e+05   -1.37829e+06
Temperature Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
3.05915e+029.88325e+013.99434e-06

DD  step 1500024 load imb.: force 23.7%  pme mesh/force 0.689

At step 1500025 the performance loss due to force load imbalance is 10.2 %

NOTE: Turning on dynamic load balancing

DD  load balancing is limited by minimum cell size in dimension Z
DD  step 1500999  vol min/aver 0.797! load imb.: force  2.1%  pme
mesh/force 1.021

   Step   Time Lambda
1501000 3002.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   BondU-BProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  CMAP Dih.
2.69950e+041.30117e+059.81626e+042.14421e+033.04253e+02
  LJ-14 Coulomb-14LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
1.92568e+04   -3.91777e+048.75313e+04   -2.15233e+068.72461e+03
 Position Rest.  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
1.12669e+03 -1.81713e+064.39962e+05   -1.37717e+06
Temperature Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
3.05306e+02   -1.47275e+023.98818e-06
-
-
-
   Step   Time Lambda
5001.00.0

Writing checkpoint, step 500 at Wed Aug 19 22:49:38 2015


   Energies (kJ/mol)
   BondU-BProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  CMAP Dih.
2.71898e+041.29717e+059.78396e+042.14084e+031.91548e+02
  LJ-14 Coulomb-14LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
1.92444e+04   -3.67507e+049.10908e+04   -2.16220e+068.48970e+03
 Position Rest.  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
1.2e+03 -1.82178e+064.38586e+05   -1.38319e+06
Temperature Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
3.04350e+027.56441e+013.99781e-06

==  ###  ==
 

Re: [gmx-users] A query about nsteps

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 7:49 AM, anu chandra wrote:

Dear gromcas users,

I carried out a continuation of previous md run for nsteps of 500 and
dt of  0.002 using the following commands,

gmx grompp -f md.mdp -o md2.tpr -c md1.gro -t md1.cpt -r ref.pdb -n
index.ndx -p topol.top

gmx_mpi mdrun -cpi md1.cpt -deffnm md2



This is redundant.  If you restart like this (you should use gmx convert-tpr for 
simple extensions, as grompp has issues preserving pressure coupling 
information), then you don't need -cpi when executing mdrun.




The mdp file following run parameters,

***
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.002
nsteps  = 500
;
nstlog  = 1000
nstxout = 0
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstcalcenergy   = 100
nstenergy   = 1000
nstxout-compressed  = 2
compressed-x-grps   = System
;
cutoff-scheme   = Verlet
nstlist = 20
rlist   = 1.2
coulombtype = pme
rcoulomb= 1.2
vdwtype = Cut-off
vdw-modifier= Force-switch
rvdw_switch = 1.0
rvdw= 1.2
;
pbc = xyz
;
gen_vel = no
;
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover
tc_grps = Protein POPC CL_SOL
tau_t   = 0.50.5 0.5
ref_t   = 305.0305.0305.0
;
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic
tau_p   = 5.0
compressibility = 4.5e-5   4.5e-5
ref_p   = 1.0 1.0
;
constraints = h-bonds
constraint_algorithm= LINCS
continuation= yes
;
nstcomm = 100
comm_mode   = linear
comm_grps   = Protein_POPC CL_SOL
;
refcoord_scaling= com
**

Though the run completed successfully, I just noticed from the log file
that the simulation carried out only for 350 steps, instead of 500
steps. It looks to me that the simulation started from the previous run
that completed 150 steps and the current run went from the next 350
steps to complete the total run for 500 steps. Why this happened? Why
it counted total run as 500 steps rather than continue the current for
another 500 steps?



Yes, because of the redundancy above.


Also, I also noticed that the XTC file is written with 176 frames instead
of 175 frames (i.e. 350/2)? Is it writing the last step of the
previous run again?



The frame at t=0 is always written to the .xtc, so you always have 
(nsteps/nstxout-compressed)+1 frames.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding HSD residue to AMBER ff99SB-ILDN

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 8:16 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:

Thank you for your answer! I did it and now gromacs throws me the following
error: Atom HG1 in residue SER 2 was not found in rtp entry SER with 11
atoms while sorting atoms.. Any clue? Thank you very much.



pdb2gmx -ignh

-Justin


Il giorno gio 20 ago 2015 alle ore 13:18 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu ha
scritto:




On 8/20/15 3:17 AM, Simone Bolognini wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a .pdb file of the WW domain of human FIP35 protein extracted from
an MD calculation obtained with AMBER ff99SB-ILDN and solvent type tip3.
Now I need to obtain the topology out of it, but the .pdb contains a
residue, namely HSD, which is not present in the Amber residue database.

I

looked at the source files and found out that CHARMM has it. In

particular,

this is what you can find in the CHARMM database:

[ HSD ]
   [ atoms ]
N NH1 -0.47 0
HN H 0.31 1
CA CT1 0.07 2
HA HB 0.09 3
CB CT2 -0.09 4
HB1 HA 0.09 5
HB2 HA 0.09 6
ND1 NR1 -0.36 7
HD1 H 0.32 8
CG CPH1 -0.05 9
CE1 CPH2 0.25 10
HE1 HR1 0.13 11
NE2 NR2 -0.70 12
CD2 CPH1 0.22 13
HD2 HR3 0.10 14
C C 0.51 15
O O -0.51 16
   [ bonds ]
CB CA
CG CB
ND1 CG
CE1 ND1
NE2 CD2
N HN
N CA
C CA
C +N
CA HA
CB HB1
CB HB2
ND1 HD1
CD2 HD2
CE1 HE1
O C
CG CD2
CE1 NE2
   [ impropers ]
ND1 CG CE1 HD1
CD2 CG NE2 HD2
CE1 ND1 NE2 HE1
ND1 CE1 CG HD1
CD2 NE2 CG HD2
CE1 NE2 ND1 HE1
N -C CA HN
C CA +N O
   [ cmap ]
-C N CA C +N

Is there any possible way in which I can copy and paste this in the

Amber

database and hope it will work correctly? Thank you very much!!!



No, you can't copy and paste, because then you're mixing force fields and
that
is bad practice.  HSD is just delta-protonated HIS, which is already in
AMBER.
It's just called HID, so rename your coordinate files appropriately and
you can
generate the topology.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles ...

2015-08-20 Thread Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz
Hi all,

I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long 
stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the 
following:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between which 
the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the missing stretch 
is quite long), so I don't think there should be any interaction between them. 
However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for some reason, the topology 
generated included an interaction between them, probably because it interpreted 
that since the two residues are consecutive in the PDB file, they are bonded 
(which they aren't, because of the missing residues).

After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option -chainsep id 
from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this warning. Instead, I 
get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a fragment of each chain, 
instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard to deal with, because, for 
example, if I want to make a position restrain on the backbone of each chain, I 
have to keep track of each fragment separately.

Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the option 
-chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

Thanks. Best,
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Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles ...

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Yes, see pdbgmx -h about merge. Probably you want -merge interactive
-chainsep id

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:39 PM Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz 
cos...@cim.sld.cu wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long
 stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the
 following:

 WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
 at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

 Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between
 which the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the
 missing stretch is quite long), so I don't think there should be any
 interaction between them. However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for
 some reason, the topology generated included an interaction between them,
 probably because it interpreted that since the two residues are consecutive
 in the PDB file, they are bonded (which they aren't, because of the missing
 residues).

 After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option
 -chainsep id from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this
 warning. Instead, I get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a
 fragment of each chain, instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard
 to deal with, because, for example, if I want to make a position restrain
 on the backbone of each chain, I have to keep track of each fragment
 separately.

 Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the
 option -chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

 Thanks. Best,
 cossio
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem compiling Gromacs 5.1

2015-08-20 Thread 岡部篤俊
Thanks, Peter. 
But , I mean I don’t know what line I should change to from line 52 of 
cmake/FindPhinx.cmake to solve this error.

Leucer

2015/08/20 16:02、Kroon, P.C. p.c.kr...@rug.nl のメール:

 Just use your favourite text editor.
 
 Peter
 
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:10 AM, atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake file is written below.
 string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
 SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})
 
 Can you tell me how I can change the line?
 
 Bests,
 Leucer
 
 
 2015/08/19 23:11、Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com のメッセージ:
 
 Hi,
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:49 PM 岡部篤俊 atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am unable to  compile Gromamcs 5.1 using the following cmake command.
 cmake .. -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=fftpack
 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=gromacs/gromacs-5.1 -DGMX_DOUBLE=off
 -DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_CPU_ACCELERATION=SSE4.1
 
 
 Unrelated, but you now need to use -DGMX_SIMD=SSE4.1 to have the same
 effect.
 
 
 -DGMX_USE_RDTSCP=off
 
 Then I got the error message.
 Boost = 1.44 not found. Using minimal internal version. This may cause
 trouble if you plan on compiling/linking other software that uses Boost
 against GROMACS.
 CMake Error at cmake/FindSphinx.cmake:52 (string):
 string sub-command REGEX, mode REPLACE needs at least 6 arguments total
 to
 command.
 Call Stack (most recent call first):
 docs/CMakeLists.txt:62 (find_package)
 
 Could you advice what could be causing this error?
 
 We try to find Sphinx in case people want to build the new documentation,
 but it looks like some part of the detection isn't reliable enough. Can
 you
 please try changing line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake to read
 
   string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
 SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})
 
 and let us know how you go?
 
 Mark
 
 I was able to compile Gromacs 5.0 using same cmake command….
 
 Bests,
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem compiling Gromacs 5.1

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

You should change line 52 from what it is, to what I suggested - which
inserts quotation marks around one of the variable interpolations.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 2:43 PM 岡部篤俊 atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Peter.
 But , I mean I don’t know what line I should change to from line 52 of
 cmake/FindPhinx.cmake to solve this error.

 Leucer

 2015/08/20 16:02、Kroon, P.C. p.c.kr...@rug.nl のメール:

  Just use your favourite text editor.
 
  Peter
 
  On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:10 AM, atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake file is written below.
  string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
  SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})
 
  Can you tell me how I can change the line?
 
  Bests,
  Leucer
 
 
  2015/08/19 23:11、Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com のメッセージ:
 
  Hi,
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:49 PM 岡部篤俊 atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am unable to  compile Gromamcs 5.1 using the following cmake
 command.
  cmake .. -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=fftpack
  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=gromacs/gromacs-5.1 -DGMX_DOUBLE=off
  -DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_CPU_ACCELERATION=SSE4.1
 
 
  Unrelated, but you now need to use -DGMX_SIMD=SSE4.1 to have the same
  effect.
 
 
  -DGMX_USE_RDTSCP=off
 
  Then I got the error message.
  Boost = 1.44 not found. Using minimal internal version. This may
 cause
  trouble if you plan on compiling/linking other software that uses
 Boost
  against GROMACS.
  CMake Error at cmake/FindSphinx.cmake:52 (string):
  string sub-command REGEX, mode REPLACE needs at least 6 arguments
 total
  to
  command.
  Call Stack (most recent call first):
  docs/CMakeLists.txt:62 (find_package)
 
  Could you advice what could be causing this error?
 
  We try to find Sphinx in case people want to build the new
 documentation,
  but it looks like some part of the detection isn't reliable enough. Can
  you
  please try changing line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake to read
 
string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
  SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})
 
  and let us know how you go?
 
  Mark
 
  I was able to compile Gromacs 5.0 using same cmake command….
 
  Bests,
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem compiling Gromacs 5.1

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 8:42 AM, 岡部篤俊 wrote:

Thanks, Peter.
But , I mean I don’t know what line I should change to from line 52 of 
cmake/FindPhinx.cmake to solve this error.



Mark's message provided the corrected line.  Just replace whatever is on line 52 
with that.


-Justin


Leucer

2015/08/20 16:02、Kroon, P.C. p.c.kr...@rug.nl のメール:


Just use your favourite text editor.

Peter

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:10 AM, atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:


Line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake file is written below.
string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})

Can you tell me how I can change the line?

Bests,
Leucer


2015/08/19 23:11、Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com のメッセージ:


Hi,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:49 PM 岡部篤俊 atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I am unable to  compile Gromamcs 5.1 using the following cmake command.
cmake .. -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=fftpack
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=gromacs/gromacs-5.1 -DGMX_DOUBLE=off
-DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_CPU_ACCELERATION=SSE4.1



Unrelated, but you now need to use -DGMX_SIMD=SSE4.1 to have the same
effect.



-DGMX_USE_RDTSCP=off

Then I got the error message.
Boost = 1.44 not found. Using minimal internal version. This may cause
trouble if you plan on compiling/linking other software that uses Boost
against GROMACS.
CMake Error at cmake/FindSphinx.cmake:52 (string):
string sub-command REGEX, mode REPLACE needs at least 6 arguments total
to
command.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
docs/CMakeLists.txt:62 (find_package)

Could you advice what could be causing this error?


We try to find Sphinx in case people want to build the new documentation,
but it looks like some part of the detection isn't reliable enough. Can

you

please try changing line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake to read

   string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})

and let us know how you go?

Mark

I was able to compile Gromacs 5.0 using same cmake command….


Bests,
Leucer
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Re: [gmx-users] Respect waters in crystallographic pdb file?

2015-08-20 Thread Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz
And what about genion? Suppose I have to add some ions to the system to 
neutralize, so I use the following command:

genion -s S_ion.tpr -o S_sol.gro -p S_sol.top -nn 1 -nname CL SOL

Is there a chance that this replaces one of the original crytallographic waters 
with the CL?

Thanks. Best,
cossio

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They should be in the same place they always were (unless you've modified the
box dimensions, in which case the coordinates of everything get changed).  But
genbox shouldn't delete waters that were already present.  The crystallographic
waters should always be the first ones written after e.g. the protein.

-Justin

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On 8/17/15 1:42 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:
 Hi all, I have a crystallographic PDB file which comes some waters molecules.
 I want to run an MD simulation which includes those water molecules. After
 generating the topology file (which includes the waters) and defining the box
 shape, I fill the box with solvent using genbox. At this point it becomes
 impossible to track down visually where the water molecules are. My question
 is if the file that genbox outputs still contains the crystallographic water
 molecules? Or are they replaced by the molecules added by genbox? Thanks in

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Re: [gmx-users] Respect waters in crystallographic pdb file?

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 10:06 AM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:

And what about genion? Suppose I have to add some ions to the system to 
neutralize, so I use the following command:

genion -s S_ion.tpr -o S_sol.gro -p S_sol.top -nn 1 -nname CL SOL

Is there a chance that this replaces one of the original crytallographic waters 
with the CL?



There's always a chance; it's random.

It's easy to check and if you get an undesired result, just change the value of 
-seed.  Or distinguish the crystal waters as some other [moleculetype] name, 
which requires some topology hacking.


-Justin


Thanks. Best,
cossio

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They should be in the same place they always were (unless you've modified the
box dimensions, in which case the coordinates of everything get changed).  But
genbox shouldn't delete waters that were already present.  The crystallographic
waters should always be the first ones written after e.g. the protein.

-Justin

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Baltimore, MD 21201

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On 8/17/15 1:42 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:

Hi all, I have a crystallographic PDB file which comes some waters molecules.
I want to run an MD simulation which includes those water molecules. After
generating the topology file (which includes the waters) and defining the box
shape, I fill the box with solvent using genbox. At this point it becomes
impossible to track down visually where the water molecules are. My question
is if the file that genbox outputs still contains the crystallographic water
molecules? Or are they replaced by the molecules added by genbox? Thanks in


---

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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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[gmx-users] inversion potential

2015-08-20 Thread Nima Sa
Hi, Dear gromacs usersI want to define some bond parameters within opls-aa 
force field, which are taken from a paper. I know how to define nonbonded 
parameters as well as bonds and angles and dihedrals. But I don't know how to 
define a so-called inversion potential and the paper is vague on this. The 
paper reads:
u_inversion(theta_ijk-theta_0)=K1(theta_ijk-theta_0)+K2(theta_ijk-theta_0)^2inversion
            theta0(deg)            K1(kcal/mol/rad)            
K2(kcal/mol/rad^2)          C1                      360                        
-60                                 30
The only way to define such a form of potential in gromacs, as I found out from 
the manual, is to use a quartic angle (please see table 5.5 of the manual). The 
manual says that one has to specify 3 atoms to define such an angle potential. 
However, the paper has specified only one atom (C1)!! Although it has not 
clarified, it seems that the paper is using this potential to avoid the 
rotation of the mentioned atom (due to theta0=360 deg).
Does anyone happen to know the answers to the following questions:1- What is 
this inversion potential used for?2-How can I implement it in Gromacs?I 
appreciate any kind comments on this issue.Thanks.Nima Azar
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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv -dt issue

2015-08-20 Thread Matthias Ernst
Thanks for your explanation, Mark.

Concerning energy files and eneconv:
- I will try double-precision eneconv, as I don't mind larger files.
- In reply to the advice to reset the time of the energy files: how to
do it? eneconv has no option for this, although the help states:
With one file specified for -f:
Reads one energy file and writes another, applying the -dt, -offset, -t0
and -settime options and converting to a different format if necessary
(indicated by file extentions).
Strangely, the -t0 option does not exist in eneconv (GROMACS 4.6.5) and
if I try nevertheless, it states Invalid command line argument: -t0.
Is that an error in the help or was the option just forgotten for the
command line parsing of eneconv?
- The eneconv -offset option seems to do nothing for me (or I looked at
the wrong spot). What does it do and how is supposed to work?
- And last: eneconv has, in contrast to trjconv, no -skip option which
would allow for using every nth frame instead of choosing by time. Is
that intended? Right now, it could be helpful for me, so I would like to
state my request for it ;-)

Concerning xtc files:
Obviously, the data types storing the step counter as well as the
timestamp are too small for my data. The step counter overflows quite
rapidly, but also the time only works for ps steps up to 1.6777216E7
(i.e. ~16.777mus). Going further, only even numbers are stored. This
gives a nasty number of Timesteps at t=... don't match messages when
using gmxcheck to see if everything went alright, obscuring real errors
that may be in between.
Is there any chance of saving the correct times in the trajectory file
(like using double-precision like for eneconv) or do I have to take care
of this separately? Or is there some other format I could use to save
the data efficiently?

Thanks a lot,
Matthias


On 08/20/2015 12:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This is indeed problematic. The .edr format (and its tools) are designed
 with limitations that were not really a problem 10 years ago. One of the
 limitations is that the time itself is stored in the same precision as the
 simulation data, and this starts to lose precision as the simulation
 proceeds into the millions of MD steps.
 
 I think your practical course is to keep the simulation in the chunks that
 you already have, and do your subsampling from them. You may get a better
 result if you pre-process each chunk to start from zero time (or making
 smaller chunks if you need to). This will help by keeping the side of the
 stride closer to the absolute value of the time.
 
 Another alternative is to pre-process the chunks with a double-precision
 eneconv, which will write the times in double precision. That won't help if
 they're stored wrongly in the first place, but may help you handle some
 longer trajectory (at cost of more disk space).
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:50 PM Matthias Ernst 
 matthias.er...@physik.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 
 Hello,

 I have a quite long continuous trajectory coming from several initial
 input pieces (cluster crashed...) that I want to downsample, as a start
 from 0.5ps timestep in the source files to just 1ps and later bigger
 timesteps.

 Using the -dt option of trjconv (GROMACS 4.6.5.), there seem to be
 rounding issues which leads to times at .5ps being written from some
 timestamp on (4.1943e+06). Is this a known behaviour?

 Related to this, what does the following sentence in the help for
 trjconv -dt mean:
 This option relies on the accuracy of the times in your input
 trajectory, so if these are inaccurate use the -timestep option to
 modify the time (this can be done simultaneously).
 How can I change the input timestep to get a proper output of output
 frames? I tried to use -timestep 1 it to my trajectory with 0.5ps
 timestep and it seems to produce correct timestamps in 1ps steps in
 the output file but the coordinates still are those of the initial
 frames with the 0.5ps timestamps, meaning it just relabels the
 timestamps of the frames. Using -timestep 0.5 -dt 1 together does not
 change the result compared to -dt 1 only.

 If I rather use the -t0 0 option, I can reset the time of the first
 frame and then, it looks like it writes the correct 1ps stepped frames
 with 1ps timestamps, but starting at time 0. As I have several
 trajectory pieces from a continuous timeseries to concatenate, I would
 have to run trjconv once more just to correct and reset the time to
 its initial value, which means a lot of unnecessary data transfer,
 especially in the case of long trajectories.
 Is this really necessary or is there another way to get a proper
 downsampling?
 I know I can use  the -skip 2 option but e.g. not for eneconv which only
 supports -dt and has the same issues. Further, just using -skip 2 is not
 possible if some input files are at 0.5ps, but some other already at 1ps
 time steps.

 Thank you for your help,
 Matthias

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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv -dt issue

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:00 PM Matthias Ernst 
matthias.er...@physik.uni-freiburg.de wrote:

 Thanks for your explanation, Mark.

 Concerning energy files and eneconv:
 - I will try double-precision eneconv, as I don't mind larger files.
 - In reply to the advice to reset the time of the energy files: how to
 do it?


I intended you to try eneconv -settime 0 for each file.


 eneconv has no option for this, although the help states:
 With one file specified for -f:
 Reads one energy file and writes another, applying the -dt, -offset, -t0
 and -settime options and converting to a different format if necessary
 (indicated by file extentions).
 Strangely, the -t0 option does not exist in eneconv (GROMACS 4.6.5) and
 if I try nevertheless, it states Invalid command line argument: -t0.
 Is that an error in the help or was the option just forgotten for the

command line parsing of eneconv?


Looks like it :-(


 - The eneconv -offset option seems to do nothing for me (or I looked at
 the wrong spot). What does it do and how is supposed to work?


See doc string for -dt (so not useful for you)


 - And last: eneconv has, in contrast to trjconv, no -skip option which
 would allow for using every nth frame instead of choosing by time. Is
 that intended? Right now, it could be helpful for me, so I would like to
 state my request for it ;-)


Fair enough. My plan to fix such issues in the future is to move all energy
writing to the TNG format introduced in 5.0, and now there is no need for
two separate tools to do the same thing (and neither doing it very well).

A further option for you is to use gmxdump to get the data in a text format
- where the step number will be clear and potentially useful. That's a
one-way trip, however - you won't get the data back into .edr format. There
are some third-party MD analysis packages that might help, I have no idea.

Concerning xtc files:
 Obviously, the data types storing the step counter as well as the
 timestamp are too small for my data. The step counter overflows quite
 rapidly,


I think we changed the step counter to a 64-bit integer before GROMACS 4.5.
Doubtless some places print it badly, but I don't think you're doing 10^19
steps.


 but also the time only works for ps steps up to 1.6777216E7
 (i.e. ~16.777mus). Going further, only even numbers are stored. This
 gives a nasty number of Timesteps at t=... don't match messages when
 using gmxcheck to see if everything went alright, obscuring real errors
 that may be in between.


Yep. This gear is fast becoming out of date.


 Is there any chance of saving the correct times in the trajectory file
 (like using double-precision like for eneconv) or do I have to take care
 of this separately? Or is there some other format I could use to save
 the data efficiently?


Unless you run mdrun in double precision, the step number is the only
reliable thing, unfortunately. Internally, the magnitude of the step number
and time is only used for trivia, and clearly there are a number of things
that could be improved about how we handle writing and post-processing data.

Mark

Thanks a lot,
 Matthias


 On 08/20/2015 12:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This is indeed problematic. The .edr format (and its tools) are designed
  with limitations that were not really a problem 10 years ago. One of the
  limitations is that the time itself is stored in the same precision as
 the
  simulation data, and this starts to lose precision as the simulation
  proceeds into the millions of MD steps.
 
  I think your practical course is to keep the simulation in the chunks
 that
  you already have, and do your subsampling from them. You may get a better
  result if you pre-process each chunk to start from zero time (or making
  smaller chunks if you need to). This will help by keeping the side of the
  stride closer to the absolute value of the time.
 
  Another alternative is to pre-process the chunks with a double-precision
  eneconv, which will write the times in double precision. That won't help
 if
  they're stored wrongly in the first place, but may help you handle some
  longer trajectory (at cost of more disk space).
 
  Mark
 
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:50 PM Matthias Ernst 
  matthias.er...@physik.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I have a quite long continuous trajectory coming from several initial
  input pieces (cluster crashed...) that I want to downsample, as a start
  from 0.5ps timestep in the source files to just 1ps and later bigger
  timesteps.
 
  Using the -dt option of trjconv (GROMACS 4.6.5.), there seem to be
  rounding issues which leads to times at .5ps being written from some
  timestamp on (4.1943e+06). Is this a known behaviour?
 
  Related to this, what does the following sentence in the help for
  trjconv -dt mean:
  This option relies on the accuracy of the times in your input
  trajectory, so if these are inaccurate use the -timestep option to
  modify the time (this can be done simultaneously).
  

Re: [gmx-users] Error while configuring gmx-3.3.1

2015-08-20 Thread Padmani Sandhu
Thanks Mark, It worked. grompp working fine now.







regards,




Padmani

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Apparently the 3.3.1 install isn't working well for you. You can use cp -R
 gromacs-3.3.1/share/top/* /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ which is a standard
 unix command.

 Mark

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:52 AM Padmani Sandhu padmanisandh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello Justin,
 
 
  I have copied both the .itp files which were giving error in to
  /usr/local/gromacs/share/top using command:
 
  sudo cp BH4_oplsaa.itp /usr/local/gromacs/share/top
 
  sudo cp ffoplsaabon.itp /usr/local/gromacs/share/top
 
  and now grompp worked. Please can you suggest me any solution so that all
  the files in *gromacs-3.3.1/share/top *can be copied to
  */usr/local/gromacs/share/top.*
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
  Padmani
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Padmani Sandhu 
 padmanisandh...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
 
   1. I am using it with CPMD as they have mentioned this version of
 gromacs
   only.
   2. The top-level force fields are not included as they are not present
 in
   /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ file  for eg. BH4_oplsaa.itp, however its
   there in the gmx-3.3.1_qmmm-1.3.2/share/top folder.
   3. There is no problem with topology, its working fine with
 gromacs-4.5.6
   and later versions.
  
  
  
  
   Thanks
  
  
   Padmani
  
   On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
  
  
  
   On 8/19/15 7:58 AM, Padmani Sandhu wrote:
  
   Hello everyone,
  
   I am trying to install gmx-3.3.1 on ubuntu 14.04. I have compiled it
   using
   following commands:
  
  
   Any reason you're using wildly outdated software?
  
   ./configure
   make
   sudo make install
  
   *However the program was installed but while running grommp, it was
   terminated with  an error :*
  
   checking input for internal consistency...
   calling cpp...
   In file included from /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ffoplsaa.itp:23:0,
 from topol.top:11:
   /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/ffoplsaabon.itp:2692:26: fatal error:
   BH4_oplsaa.itp: No such file or directory
 #include BH4_oplsaa.itp
  
 ^
  
   compilation terminated.
  
  
   You probably shouldn't be #including files in top-level force field
  files.
  
   cpp exit code: 256
   Tried to execute: 'cpp  -I/usr/local/gromacs/share/top  topol.top 
   gromppVUW784'
   The 'cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
   processing topology...
   processing coordinates...
   ---
   Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
   Source code file: grompp.c, line: 448
  
   Fatal error:
   number of coordinates in coordinate file (conf_solv.gro, 317253)
 does not match topology (topol.top, 0)
  
  
   Your topology is totally wrong or misformatted.
  
  
   *I had an error while running ./configure that might be causing this
   problem*
  
   configure: creating ./config.status
   config.status: creating Makefile
   config.status: WARNING:  Makefile.in seems to ignore the
 --datarootdir
   setting
   config.status: creating src/Makefile
   config.status: WARNING:  src/Makefile.in seems to ignore the
   --datarootdir
   setting
  
  
   This is not related.
  
   -Justin
  
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[gmx-users] No Checkpoint File generated

2015-08-20 Thread Chunlei ZHANG
Dear All,

I am doing a md simulation for a system consisting of protein with 1.5ns
thick water shell.
The whole system is simulated in vacuum.
I turn of PBC and cutoffs for nonbond interactions.

Now, the simulation runs well, but no checkpoint file is output.
Does anyone know the issue?
The parameters in .mdp file is appended.

Thanks in advance.

Chunlei

*

define = -DPOSRES -DFPOSRES ; position restrain the protein
; Run parameters
integrator = md ; leap-frog integrator
nsteps = 25 ; 2 *  25 000 = 50 ps
dt = 0.002 ; 2 fs

; Output control
nstxout = 0 ; save coordinates every 1 ps
nstvout = 0 ; save velocities every 1 ps
nstxtcout = 500 ; save compressed coordinates very 1 ps
nstenergy = 500 ; save energies every 1 ps
nstlog = 500 ; update log file every 1 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation = no ; continue from nvt run
constraint_algorithm = lincs ; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) constrained
lincs_iter = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = simple ; search neighboring grid cels
nstlist = 0 ; 10 fs
rlist = 0 ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb = 0 ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw = 0 ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
vdwtype = cut-off ; twin-range cut-off for vdw interation
coulombtype = cut-off ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range electrostatics
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein SOL RWW ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t = 0.1 0.1 0.1 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t = 300 300 300 ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl = no ; no pressure coupling in NVT
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = no ; 3-D PBC
comm_mode   = ANGULAR
nstcomm = 1
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Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded

2015-08-20 Thread Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz
Note that I am adding position restrains to fix all the termini of the 
incomplete fragments. Shouldn't that take care of the missing residues?

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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:29:42 +
From: Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz cos...@cim.sld.cu
To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
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Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
same WARNING:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when I 
try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

So why is it that when I put the fragments into the same chain, the topology 
creates this spurious interaction?

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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:00:29 +
From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org, gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
CAMNuMARXoFeT_HN0J57y2pt=gzatnzgb+11asgpm6dxvyq3...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

Yes, see pdbgmx -h about merge. Probably you want -merge interactive
-chainsep id

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:39 PM Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz 
cos...@cim.sld.cu wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long
 stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the
 following:

 WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
 at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

 Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between
 which the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the
 missing stretch is quite long), so I don't think there should be any
 interaction between them. However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for
 some reason, the topology generated included an interaction between them,
 probably because it interpreted that since the two residues are consecutive
 in the PDB file, they are bonded (which they aren't, because of the missing
 residues).

 After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option
 -chainsep id from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this
 warning. Instead, I get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a
 fragment of each chain, instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard
 to deal with, because, for example, if I want to make a position restrain
 on the backbone of each chain, I have to keep track of each fragment
 separately.

 Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the
 option -chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

 Thanks. Best,
 cossio
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:40:27 -0400
From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID: 55d63b3b.6040...@vt.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed



On 8/20/15 4:29 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:
 Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
 same WARNING:

 WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
 at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

 The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when 
 I try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
 doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
 sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
 consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

 So why is it that when I put the fragments into the same chain, the topology 
 creates this spurious interaction?


Because you're ignoring something physically relevant - you have missing
residues!  pdb2gmx certainly gave long bond warnings when you produced the
topology.  You need to model in the missing residues, otherwise the structure is
useless to you.

-Justin

 

Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 4:01 PM, 折晓会 wrote:

Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error with your suggestion.

When I use mdrun -rerun to calculate the local pressure, another error occurs:

Fatal error:
Rerun trajectory frame step 60 time 600.00 has too small box dimensions

What does this mean?



It means your box is too small.  What are the box dimensions in that frame, and 
what are the cutoffs you are using?


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] What's the point of adding ions to neutralize the system?

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 4:15 PM, Victor Rosas Garcia wrote:

You said it yourself: to neutralize the net charge of the system.



Great answer: you neutralize the system in order to neutralize the system :)


Since the ion added is usually very far away from the protein (or molecule
of interest), I don't see how it can affect the results of the molecular
dynamics simulation. So why is it so important to add ions to neutralize
the net-charge of the system?


One effect is practical - in the absence of a net-neutral system, PME applies a 
neutralizing background charge, which for a homogeneous medium, is an adequate 
approximation.  But this is a very bad approximation in many other cases.  There 
are even relevant inhomogeneities at protein surfaces, though the effects are 
not as profound as, say, in a membrane system.


Second point - life exists in salt.  We like to model things that are 
biologically relevant.


Third and final point - it is fundamentally incorrect to assume that there will 
be no effect of the ions.  DNA dynamics are exquisitely sensitive to ionic 
concentration, for instance (though additive models are not nearly as responsive 
as polarizable ones, there are some effects).  Protein salt bridges are affected 
by ionic concentration, even if the interactions are not direct, there is a 
change in ionic environment within a hydration shell or two and that will affect 
dynamics.  And even if ions are far away from the solute to start, they don't 
stay there...


a-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread 折晓会
Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error with your suggestion.

When I use mdrun -rerun to calculate the local pressure, another error occurs:

Fatal error:
Rerun trajectory frame step 60 time 600.00 has too small box dimensions

What does this mean?

Best wishes,

Xiaohui


 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:05:27 -0400
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 
 or 1 for Polarization.
 
 
 
 On 8/20/15 1:03 PM, 折晓会 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I used Gromacs 5.0.5 to generate a trajectory of polarizable water system 
  with SWM4-NDP model, and then tried to use a custom version Gromacs 4.5.5 
  to calculate local pressure of the system. When I generate the .tpr file 
  with Gromacs 4.5.5, an error coccurs:
 
  Fatal error:
  Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.
 
  What does this mean? How should I solve this problem?
 
 
 This means that you have too many parameters on some line related to the 
 [polarization] directive.  Isotropic polarization takes one value (alpha), so 
 that's all that is allowed.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles ...

2015-08-20 Thread Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz
Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
same WARNING:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when I 
try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

So why is it that when I put the fragments into the same chain, the topology 
creates this spurious interaction?

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:00:29 +
From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org, gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
CAMNuMARXoFeT_HN0J57y2pt=gzatnzgb+11asgpm6dxvyq3...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

Yes, see pdbgmx -h about merge. Probably you want -merge interactive
-chainsep id

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:39 PM Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz 
cos...@cim.sld.cu wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long
 stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the
 following:

 WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
 at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

 Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between
 which the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the
 missing stretch is quite long), so I don't think there should be any
 interaction between them. However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for
 some reason, the topology generated included an interaction between them,
 probably because it interpreted that since the two residues are consecutive
 in the PDB file, they are bonded (which they aren't, because of the missing
 residues).

 After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option
 -chainsep id from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this
 warning. Instead, I get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a
 fragment of each chain, instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard
 to deal with, because, for example, if I want to make a position restrain
 on the backbone of each chain, I have to keep track of each fragment
 separately.

 Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the
 option -chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

 Thanks. Best,
 cossio
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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Nash, Anthony
Hi Mark,

Many thanks for looking into this.

One of the log files (the job hasn’t finished running) is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwrro54yni2uxtn/umb_3_umb.log?dl=0

The system is a soluble collagenase in water with a collagen substrate and
two zinc co-factors. There are 287562 atoms in the system.

Please let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks!

Anthony





On 20/08/2015 11:39, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation, and
share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both the
things mdrun reports early and late.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs. Values
 starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of
around
 0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).

 When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:

 Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
 Dynamic load balancing: auto
 Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
 Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
 two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
   multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116 3123
 Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
 Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans:
0.862 nm
 Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
 This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
-rcon
 Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
  ranks for efficient splitting
 Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
 Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.077
nm
 The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
 Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
 PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
 Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
 Using 8 MPI processes
 Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process




 Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
 consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
 number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply be a
 case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around with
 P-LINCS parameters?

 Thanks
 Anthony

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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi,

You're not pinning threads and it seems that you're running on a large SMP
machine! Assuming that the 512 threads reported (line 91) is correct that's
a 32 socket SMP machine, perhaps an SGI UV? In any case Xeon E5-4xxx is
typically deployed in 4-8 socket installations, so your 8 threads will be
floating around on a number of CPUs which ruins your performance - and
likely contributes to the varying and large load imbalance.

My advice:
- don't ignore notes/warnings issued by mdrun (line 366, should be on the
standard out too), we put quite some though into spamming users only when
relevant :)
- pin mdrun and/or its threads either with -pin on (and -pinoffset if
needed) or with whatever tools your admins provide/recommend

[Extras: consider using FFTW even with the Intel compilers it's often
faster for our small FFTs than MKL; and GNU iso Intel compiler is often
faster too.]

Fixing the above issues should not only reduce imbalance but most likely
also allow you to gain quite some simulation performance! Let us know if it
worked.

Cheers,

--
Szilárd

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Many thanks for looking into this.

 One of the log files (the job hasn’t finished running) is here:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwrro54yni2uxtn/umb_3_umb.log?dl=0

 The system is a soluble collagenase in water with a collagen substrate and
 two zinc co-factors. There are 287562 atoms in the system.

 Please let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks!

 Anthony





 On 20/08/2015 11:39, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation, and
 share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both the
 things mdrun reports early and late.
 
 Mark
 
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs. Values
  starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of
 around
  0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).
 
  When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:
 
  Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
  Dynamic load balancing: auto
  Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
  Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
  two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116 3123
  Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
  Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans:
 0.862 nm
  Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
  This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
 -rcon
  Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
   ranks for efficient splitting
  Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
  Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.077
 nm
  The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
  Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
  PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
  Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
  Using 8 MPI processes
  Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process
 
 
 
 
  Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
  consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
  number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply be a
  case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around with
  P-LINCS parameters?
 
  Thanks
  Anthony
 
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[gmx-users] What's the point of adding ions to neutralize the system?

2015-08-20 Thread Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz
Since the ion added is usually very far away from the protein (or molecule of 
interest), I don't see how it can affect the results of the molecular dynamics 
simulation. So why is it so important to add ions to neutralize the net-charge 
of the system?
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Re: [gmx-users] AIX XLC Gromacs-5.1-rc1. Undefined reference. Underscore issue.

2015-08-20 Thread Carlos Aguni
Hello Mark!

Thank you for your advice!
I'm now using Gromacs-5.1.
I've added -DGMX_BUILD_MDRUN_ONLY=ON on the previous cmake configuration.

Here's my cmake and error log now:

export TPREFIX=/home/ibm/softwares/gromacs/xlc/vsx/omp1/flagO0/

export flags1=-qnoinline -O0 -qsmp=omp

export blaslapackflags=-L/usr/lib -lessl -L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/
-lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -L/opt/ibm/xlsmp/4.1.2/lib -lxlomp_ser 

cmake .. -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_DOUBLE=off -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$TPREFIX
-DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=OFF -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=essl  -DGMX_OPENMP=on
-DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=on -DGMX_GPU=off -DGMX_EXTERNAL_LAPACK=ON
-DGMX_EXTERNAL_BLAS=ON -DGMX_BLAS_USER=$blaslapackflags
-DGMX_LAPACK_USER=$blaslapackflags -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=$flags1
-DCMAKE_C_FLAGS=$flags1 -DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_SIMD=IBM_VSX
 -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=mpixlc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=mpixlc++
-DFFT_LINKER_FLAGS= -DLINEAR_ALGEBRA_LIBRARIES=
-DCOVERAGE_EXTRA_FLAGS= -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON
-DCMAKE_SHARED_LINKER_FLAGS=-qnoextname -DGMX_BUILD_MDRUN_ONLY=ON
-DGMX_BUILD_SHARED_EXE=OFF


-

Error log:

Linking CXX executable ../../bin/mdrun_mpi

cd /home/ibm/crash/2gromacs-5.1-agosto/gromacs-5.1/single/src/programs 
/usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/mdrun.dir/link.txt
--verbose=1

/usr/bin/mpixlc++-qarch=auto -qaltivec   -std=c++0x -qnoinline -O0
-qsmp=omp -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wpointer-arith -Wall
-Wno-unused-function  -O3 -DNDEBUG
CMakeFiles/mdrun.dir/mdrun_main.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/membed.c.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/resource-division.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/runner.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/md.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/mdrun.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/repl_ex.cpp.o  -o ../../bin/mdrun_mpi
-rdynamic ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a -lrt
/opt/ibmmath/essl/5.3/FFTW3/src/lib64/libfftw3_essl.a -L/usr/lib -lessl
-L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/ -lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -L/opt/ibm/xlsmp/4.1.2/lib
-lxlomp_ser

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(copyrite.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_print_version_info(_IO_FILE*)':

copyrite.cpp:(.text+0x1310): undefined reference to
`gmx_fft_get_version_info'

copyrite.cpp:(.text+0x15f4): undefined reference to
`gmx_fft_get_version_info'

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_fft_init_many_1d':

fft.cpp:(.text+0x98): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_init_1d'

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_fft_init_many_1d_real':

fft.cpp:(.text+0x1a8): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_init_1d_real'

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_many_fft_destroy':

fft.cpp:(.text+0x300): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_destroy'

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_fft_many_1d_real$AF7_4':

fft.cpp:(.text+0xfd0): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d_real'

../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
`gmx_fft_many_1d$AF8_3':

fft.cpp:(.text+0x10c0): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d'

Thanks in advance!
Carlos.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 GROMACS 5.1 is out, please don't install 5.1-rc1 any more. There's a little
 bit of advice about using custom linear algebra libraries at

 http://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/5.1/install-guide/index.html#linear-algebra-libraries
 but
 you don't need to bother with such libraries unless you know mdrun will be
 used to do normal-mode analysis or something. You might still run into
 problems - if so, we'll want to know how you ran cmake in the first place.

 Mark

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:20 AM Carlos Aguni sorla...@gmail.com wrote:

  Helo guys!
 
  I'm trying to compile Gromacs-5.1-rc1 with XLC 13.1.2  ESSL 5.3 and I'm
  facing
  an undefined reference error.
  Here's what I got:
 
  $ cd
 /home/ibm/crash/gromacs-agosto/2/gromacs-5.1-rc1/single/share/template
   /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/template.dir/link.txt
  --verbose=1
 
  $ /usr/bin/mpixlc++-qarch=auto -qaltivec   -std=c++0x -qnoinline -O0
  -qsmp=omp -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wpointer-arith -Wall
  -Wno-unused-function  -O3 -DNDEBUG  -qextname
  CMakeFiles/template.dir/template.cpp.o  -o ../../bin/template -rdynamic
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0 -ldl -lrt -lessl -L/usr/lib -lessl
  -L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/ -lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -Wl,-rpath,\$ORIGIN/../lib
 
  /opt/ibm/xlC/13.1.2/bin/.orig/xlc++: warning: 1501-218 file
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0 contains an incorrect file suffix
 
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlaev2_'
 
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dorm2r_'
 
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to
  `gmx_fft_init_1d_real'
 
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `dlascl_'
 
  ../../lib/libgromacs_mpi.so.1.0.0: undefined reference to `slaev2_'
 
  

Re: [gmx-users] AIX XLC Gromacs-5.1-rc1. Undefined reference. Underscore issue.

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Using -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=essl is not meaningful (per install guide), and
frankly it's a build-system bug if it doesn't give a fatal error :-) That's
likely the reason for the undefined symbols for the GROMACS wrapper
functions that call the underlying FFT library (and that the conditional
compilation can mysteriously fail like this is also a bug). If essl has a
magic FFTW compatibility mode, you should use -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=fftw3 and
set -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/path/to/essl/fftw/dir/ so that the essl fftw
library gets found before any other FFTW library on the system.

(and *don't* use -O0 for production work!)

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:05 PM Carlos Aguni sorla...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Mark!

 Thank you for your advice!
 I'm now using Gromacs-5.1.
 I've added -DGMX_BUILD_MDRUN_ONLY=ON on the previous cmake configuration.

 Here's my cmake and error log now:

 export TPREFIX=/home/ibm/softwares/gromacs/xlc/vsx/omp1/flagO0/

 export flags1=-qnoinline -O0 -qsmp=omp

 export blaslapackflags=-L/usr/lib -lessl -L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/
 -lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -L/opt/ibm/xlsmp/4.1.2/lib -lxlomp_ser 

 cmake .. -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_DOUBLE=off -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$TPREFIX
 -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=OFF -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=essl  -DGMX_OPENMP=on
 -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=on -DGMX_GPU=off -DGMX_EXTERNAL_LAPACK=ON
 -DGMX_EXTERNAL_BLAS=ON -DGMX_BLAS_USER=$blaslapackflags
 -DGMX_LAPACK_USER=$blaslapackflags -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=$flags1
 -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS=$flags1 -DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_SIMD=IBM_VSX
  -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=mpixlc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=mpixlc++
 -DFFT_LINKER_FLAGS= -DLINEAR_ALGEBRA_LIBRARIES=
 -DCOVERAGE_EXTRA_FLAGS= -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON
 -DCMAKE_SHARED_LINKER_FLAGS=-qnoextname -DGMX_BUILD_MDRUN_ONLY=ON
 -DGMX_BUILD_SHARED_EXE=OFF

 
 -

 Error log:

 Linking CXX executable ../../bin/mdrun_mpi

 cd /home/ibm/crash/2gromacs-5.1-agosto/gromacs-5.1/single/src/programs 
 /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/mdrun.dir/link.txt
 --verbose=1

 /usr/bin/mpixlc++-qarch=auto -qaltivec   -std=c++0x -qnoinline -O0
 -qsmp=omp -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wpointer-arith -Wall
 -Wno-unused-function  -O3 -DNDEBUG
 CMakeFiles/mdrun.dir/mdrun_main.cpp.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/membed.c.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/resource-division.cpp.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/runner.cpp.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/md.cpp.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/mdrun.cpp.o
 CMakeFiles/mdrun_objlib.dir/mdrun/repl_ex.cpp.o  -o ../../bin/mdrun_mpi
 -rdynamic ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a -lrt
 /opt/ibmmath/essl/5.3/FFTW3/src/lib64/libfftw3_essl.a -L/usr/lib -lessl
 -L/opt/ibm/xlf/15.1.2/lib/ -lxlf90 -lxlf90_t -L/opt/ibm/xlsmp/4.1.2/lib
 -lxlomp_ser

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(copyrite.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_print_version_info(_IO_FILE*)':

 copyrite.cpp:(.text+0x1310): undefined reference to
 `gmx_fft_get_version_info'

 copyrite.cpp:(.text+0x15f4): undefined reference to
 `gmx_fft_get_version_info'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_fft_init_many_1d':

 fft.cpp:(.text+0x98): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_init_1d'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_fft_init_many_1d_real':

 fft.cpp:(.text+0x1a8): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_init_1d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_many_fft_destroy':

 fft.cpp:(.text+0x300): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_destroy'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_fft_many_1d_real$AF7_4':

 fft.cpp:(.text+0xfd0): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d_real'

 ../../lib/libgromacs_mdrun_mpi.a(fft.cpp.o): In function
 `gmx_fft_many_1d$AF8_3':

 fft.cpp:(.text+0x10c0): undefined reference to `gmx_fft_1d'

 Thanks in advance!
 Carlos.

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  GROMACS 5.1 is out, please don't install 5.1-rc1 any more. There's a
 little
  bit of advice about using custom linear algebra libraries at
 
 
 http://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/5.1/install-guide/index.html#linear-algebra-libraries
  but
  you don't need to bother with such libraries unless you know mdrun will
 be
  used to do normal-mode analysis or something. You might still run into
  problems - if so, we'll want to know how you ran cmake in the first
 place.
 
  Mark
 
  On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:20 AM Carlos Aguni sorla...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Helo guys!
  
   I'm trying to compile Gromacs-5.1-rc1 with XLC 13.1.2  ESSL 5.3 and
 I'm
   facing
   an undefined reference error.
   Here's what I got:
  
   $ cd
  /home/ibm/crash/gromacs-agosto/2/gromacs-5.1-rc1/single/share/template
/usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/template.dir/link.txt
   --verbose=1
  
   $ /usr/bin/mpixlc++-qarch=auto -qaltivec   -std=c++0x -qnoinline
 -O0
   -qsmp=omp -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wpointer-arith 

Re: [gmx-users] What's the point of adding ions to neutralize the system?

2015-08-20 Thread Victor Rosas Garcia
You said it yourself: to neutralize the net charge of the system.

Victor

2015-08-20 14:58 GMT-05:00 Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz cos...@cim.sld.cu
:

 Since the ion added is usually very far away from the protein (or molecule
 of interest), I don't see how it can affect the results of the molecular
 dynamics simulation. So why is it so important to add ions to neutralize
 the net-charge of the system?
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Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles ...

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 4:29 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:

Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
same WARNING:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when I 
try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

So why is it that when I put the fragments into the same chain, the topology 
creates this spurious interaction?



Because you're ignoring something physically relevant - you have missing 
residues!  pdb2gmx certainly gave long bond warnings when you produced the 
topology.  You need to model in the missing residues, otherwise the structure is 
useless to you.


-Justin


--

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:00:29 +
From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org, gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
 nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
 CAMNuMARXoFeT_HN0J57y2pt=gzatnzgb+11asgpm6dxvyq3...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

Yes, see pdbgmx -h about merge. Probably you want -merge interactive
-chainsep id

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:39 PM Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz 
cos...@cim.sld.cu wrote:


Hi all,

I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long
stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the
following:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between
which the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the
missing stretch is quite long), so I don't think there should be any
interaction between them. However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for
some reason, the topology generated included an interaction between them,
probably because it interpreted that since the two residues are consecutive
in the PDB file, they are bonded (which they aren't, because of the missing
residues).

After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option
-chainsep id from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this
warning. Instead, I get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a
fragment of each chain, instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard
to deal with, because, for example, if I want to make a position restrain
on the backbone of each chain, I have to keep track of each fragment
separately.

Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the
option -chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

Thanks. Best,
cossio
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Re: [gmx-users] simulations of ice beginning to spin

2015-08-20 Thread Nathan K Houtz
Hello,

I'm sorry to submit a query twice, but I have not received a reply since last 
week. The original message is below. As the subject line states, my simulations 
are developing a rotation that I cannot explain. I was wondering if the box 
size could be an issue, so I redid both simulations in NPT with the 
Parrinello-Rahman Barostat. It did not solve the rotation problem. Both outputs 
looked very similar to the results from NVT. In addition, the corners of the 
cubic simulation still became disordered. That's the only update I have. Please 
see below for further details. Thanks!

Regards,
Nathan

- Original Message -
From: Nathan K Houtz nho...@purdue.edu
To: gromacs org gmx-users gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:57:43 PM
Subject: simulations of ice beginning to spin

Hello,

I am simulating two kinds of ice: ice Ih and ice Ic (cubic ice). Both 
simulations seem to have developed some rotation spontaneously and I'd like to 
know if I can control that somehow. I'm also simulating one in a triclinic box 
but the output gro file appears cubic. I'm not sure if I should be concerned 
about that or not. Lastly, the Ice Ic structure begins to fall apart during my 
simulation and I don't think it should. I'd appreciate help on any of these 
matters. Here are some more details:

Ice Ih is done in a triclinic box, and originally looks like this: 
http://imgur.com/VQg9xQz. I use a rigid TIP4P/Ice water model, constrained by 
shake, and simulate it in NVT for 1,000,000 time steps (2 ns) at a temperature 
of 217K and a density of 0.920 g/cm3. At the end, it looks like this: 
http://imgur.com/8uzddRH. First of all, I'm wondering if gromacs has correctly 
applied the triclinic box, as it appears that periodic boundary conditions have 
turned it into a cube. VMD is showing the box described by the .gro file. 
Secondly, it has been rotated, at least a few degrees, about the z axis. It did 
not noticeably rotate about the x or y axes. I'm not sure how to explain how 
the simulation would develop any angular momentum. In my .mdp file, I have 
gromacs get rid of angular momentum every 100 steps, but I don't think it 
should develop any in the first place. Any advice?

The other simulation, ice ic, didn't go quite as well. Here is the original 
orientation, viewed from one of the corners: http://imgur.com/i0ncpju (I 
realize the orthographic projections make it harder to see the actual 
structure, but they make it easier to see unique patterns from various angles, 
which I'm trying to use to determine how it has rotated). This one was also 
simulated for 1,000,000 timesteps (2 ns) at 217K with TIP4P/Ice constrained by 
shake, but at a density of 0.931 g/cm3. The resulting structure is this: 
http://imgur.com/Lwl8UUw. I'm not sure I've got the exact corresponding 
orientation in this view here, but I believe it is. It's looking down the 
x-axis this time. This simulation got rotated much worse. Here are the before 
and after views looking down the z-axis, just like I showed for the ice Ih 
above: http://imgur.com/a/LRQR3. With such a large number of timesteps, I 
cannot output enough frames in the trajectory file to view this as a smooth 
movie and ide
 ntify exactly when and why these rotations happen. It's more like a very long 
and rapid slide show. For the ice Ic, at least, it is possible that the whole 
box did not rotate, but all of the molecules simply reoriented themselves. But 
since at least part of the box appears to still be in the ice Ic structure, I'm 
not sure why they would do that. Ice Ic is only metastable at any temperature, 
so I would assume that if it falls apart, the structure would not come back. 
This is another issue. I would like to still have cubic ice structure at the 
end of this simulation, but clearly two of the corners have disastrously broken 
up. However, what looks like most of the molecules appear to still retain the 
structure. Do you think that it could be a problem with my box size, or the 
orientation? I'd like to know what things I might try to prevent the 
disintegration of the cubic structure. 

Thanks for any help. Regards,
Nathan
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Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed nonbonded

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 5:21 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:

Note that I am adding position restrains to fix all the termini of the 
incomplete fragments. Shouldn't that take care of the missing residues?



If there's a bond between residues that are separated by a large gap, the 
magnitude of the bonded force is going to be orders of magnitude larger than any 
restraint force.


You need to fix your missing residues.  No amount of hacking or trickery is 
going to give you a sensible result here.


-Justin


--

Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:29:42 +
From: Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz cos...@cim.sld.cu
To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
 nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
 fcd5150195922740996c04d9f8a6dfbb52c4c...@cimex2010mb1.cim.sld.cu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
same WARNING:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when I 
try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

So why is it that when I put the fragments into the same chain, the topology 
creates this spurious interaction?

--

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:00:29 +
From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org, gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
 nonbonded interaction between particles ...
Message-ID:
 CAMNuMARXoFeT_HN0J57y2pt=gzatnzgb+11asgpm6dxvyq3...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

Yes, see pdbgmx -h about merge. Probably you want -merge interactive
-chainsep id

Mark

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:39 PM Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz 
cos...@cim.sld.cu wrote:


Hi all,

I have a PDB file containing two proteins. One of the proteins has a long
stretch of missing residues. When I try to energy-minimize it, I get the
following:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

Now, it turns out that atoms 2897 and 2908 belong to the residues between
which the missing sequence lies. They are very far apart (because the
missing stretch is quite long), so I don't think there should be any
interaction between them. However, this WARNING seems to be saying that for
some reason, the topology generated included an interaction between them,
probably because it interpreted that since the two residues are consecutive
in the PDB file, they are bonded (which they aren't, because of the missing
residues).

After trying some things, I realized that if I remove the option
-chainsep id from pdb2gmx when I generate the topology, I don't get this
warning. Instead, I get a bunch of topology files, each corresponding to a
fragment of each chain, instead of a topology per chain. This is very hard
to deal with, because, for example, if I want to make a position restrain
on the backbone of each chain, I have to keep track of each fragment
separately.

Is there a way to fix the WARNING above without having to remove the
option -chainsep id from pdb2gmx?

Thanks. Best,
cossio
---

---

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:40:27 -0400
From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Broken protein chain: WARNING: Listed
 nonbonded interaction between particles ...
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On 8/20/15 4:29 PM, Jorge Fernandez de Cossio Diaz wrote:

Tried using -merge interactive -chainsep id on pdb2gmx, but I still get the 
same WARNING:

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 2897 and 2908
at distance 3f which is larger than the table limit 3f nm.

The energy minimization step prints this as a warning and proceeds, but when I 
try to equilibrate the system later, the warning becomes an error and it 
doesn't let me proceed, so this seems to be important. Also, it doesn't make 
sense to me that 2897 and 2908 are interacting, because even though they are 
consecutive (because of missing residues), they are very far apart in space.

So why is it that when I put the fragments 

Re: [gmx-users] Non Periodic Coordinate File

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 5:59 PM, ANAND AMITKUMAR Dharia wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if it was possible to create a non-periodic coordinate file
using trjconv or some other gromacs program on a trajectory file. I would
like to use coordinate data to calculate displacement in order to compute a
crosscorrelation between molecules, however, with the jumps in the
coordinate file, there is no meaningful result. I understand I can use the
-ur pbc mol command, but this just makes the molecule whole before bouncing
across the screen. Any input would be helpful.



trjconv -pbc nojump

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] simulations of ice beginning to spin

2015-08-20 Thread Eric Smoll
Hello Nathan,

Did you set comm-mode and nstcomm
http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#run in your mdp file?

Best,
Eric

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Nathan K Houtz nho...@purdue.edu wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm sorry to submit a query twice, but I have not received a reply since
 last week. The original message is below. As the subject line states, my
 simulations are developing a rotation that I cannot explain. I was
 wondering if the box size could be an issue, so I redid both simulations in
 NPT with the Parrinello-Rahman Barostat. It did not solve the rotation
 problem. Both outputs looked very similar to the results from NVT. In
 addition, the corners of the cubic simulation still became disordered.
 That's the only update I have. Please see below for further details. Thanks!

 Regards,
 Nathan

 - Original Message -
 From: Nathan K Houtz nho...@purdue.edu
 To: gromacs org gmx-users gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:57:43 PM
 Subject: simulations of ice beginning to spin

 Hello,

 I am simulating two kinds of ice: ice Ih and ice Ic (cubic ice). Both
 simulations seem to have developed some rotation spontaneously and I'd like
 to know if I can control that somehow. I'm also simulating one in a
 triclinic box but the output gro file appears cubic. I'm not sure if I
 should be concerned about that or not. Lastly, the Ice Ic structure begins
 to fall apart during my simulation and I don't think it should. I'd
 appreciate help on any of these matters. Here are some more details:

 Ice Ih is done in a triclinic box, and originally looks like this:
 http://imgur.com/VQg9xQz. I use a rigid TIP4P/Ice water model,
 constrained by shake, and simulate it in NVT for 1,000,000 time steps (2
 ns) at a temperature of 217K and a density of 0.920 g/cm3. At the end, it
 looks like this: http://imgur.com/8uzddRH. First of all, I'm wondering if
 gromacs has correctly applied the triclinic box, as it appears that
 periodic boundary conditions have turned it into a cube. VMD is showing the
 box described by the .gro file. Secondly, it has been rotated, at least a
 few degrees, about the z axis. It did not noticeably rotate about the x or
 y axes. I'm not sure how to explain how the simulation would develop any
 angular momentum. In my .mdp file, I have gromacs get rid of angular
 momentum every 100 steps, but I don't think it should develop any in the
 first place. Any advice?

 The other simulation, ice ic, didn't go quite as well. Here is the
 original orientation, viewed from one of the corners:
 http://imgur.com/i0ncpju (I realize the orthographic projections make it
 harder to see the actual structure, but they make it easier to see unique
 patterns from various angles, which I'm trying to use to determine how it
 has rotated). This one was also simulated for 1,000,000 timesteps (2 ns) at
 217K with TIP4P/Ice constrained by shake, but at a density of 0.931 g/cm3.
 The resulting structure is this: http://imgur.com/Lwl8UUw. I'm not sure
 I've got the exact corresponding orientation in this view here, but I
 believe it is. It's looking down the x-axis this time. This simulation got
 rotated much worse. Here are the before and after views looking down the
 z-axis, just like I showed for the ice Ih above: http://imgur.com/a/LRQR3.
 With such a large number of timesteps, I cannot output enough frames in the
 trajectory file to view this as a smooth movie and ide
  ntify exactly when and why these rotations happen. It's more like a very
 long and rapid slide show. For the ice Ic, at least, it is possible that
 the whole box did not rotate, but all of the molecules simply reoriented
 themselves. But since at least part of the box appears to still be in the
 ice Ic structure, I'm not sure why they would do that. Ice Ic is only
 metastable at any temperature, so I would assume that if it falls apart,
 the structure would not come back. This is another issue. I would like to
 still have cubic ice structure at the end of this simulation, but clearly
 two of the corners have disastrously broken up. However, what looks like
 most of the molecules appear to still retain the structure. Do you think
 that it could be a problem with my box size, or the orientation? I'd like
 to know what things I might try to prevent the disintegration of the cubic
 structure.

 Thanks for any help. Regards,
 Nathan
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[gmx-users] Non Periodic Coordinate File

2015-08-20 Thread ANAND AMITKUMAR Dharia
Hello,

I was wondering if it was possible to create a non-periodic coordinate file
using trjconv or some other gromacs program on a trajectory file. I would
like to use coordinate data to calculate displacement in order to compute a
crosscorrelation between molecules, however, with the jumps in the
coordinate file, there is no meaningful result. I understand I can use the
-ur pbc mol command, but this just makes the molecule whole before bouncing
across the screen. Any input would be helpful.

Thanks,
Anand
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Re: [gmx-users] Non Periodic Coordinate File

2015-08-20 Thread ANAND AMITKUMAR Dharia
Wow, thank you so much, don't know how I didn't realize this.


On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 8/20/15 5:59 PM, ANAND AMITKUMAR Dharia wrote:

 Hello,

 I was wondering if it was possible to create a non-periodic coordinate
 file
 using trjconv or some other gromacs program on a trajectory file. I would
 like to use coordinate data to calculate displacement in order to compute
 a
 crosscorrelation between molecules, however, with the jumps in the
 coordinate file, there is no meaningful result. I understand I can use the
 -ur pbc mol command, but this just makes the molecule whole before
 bouncing
 across the screen. Any input would be helpful.


 trjconv -pbc nojump

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 or 1 for Polarization.

2015-08-20 Thread 折晓会
Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error which comes from the decimals 
of the box dimensions. Initially, my box dimensions are 4.5*4.5*16 nm3 and the 
local pressure calculation does not work, but after I change them to be 
integers 4*4*16 nm3 in the gro file, the simulation works. It is strange for 
me. I do not know why. 

Best wishes,
Xiaohui

 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:44:58 -0400
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of parameters - found 3, expected 1 
 or 1 for Polarization.
 
 
 
 On 8/20/15 4:01 PM, 折晓会 wrote:
  Thank you professor Justin! I solved this error with your suggestion.
 
  When I use mdrun -rerun to calculate the local pressure, another error 
  occurs:
 
  Fatal error:
  Rerun trajectory frame step 60 time 600.00 has too small box 
  dimensions
 
  What does this mean?
 
 
 It means your box is too small.  What are the box dimensions in that frame, 
 and 
 what are the cutoffs you are using?
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem compiling Gromacs 5.1

2015-08-20 Thread Kroon, P.C.
Just use your favourite text editor.

Peter

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:10 AM, atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake file is written below.
 string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
 SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})

 Can you tell me how I can change the line?

 Bests,
 Leucer


 2015/08/19 23:11、Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com のメッセージ:

  Hi,
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:49 PM 岡部篤俊 atsutoshi0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am unable to  compile Gromamcs 5.1 using the following cmake command.
  cmake .. -DGMX_FFT_LIBRARY=fftpack
  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=gromacs/gromacs-5.1 -DGMX_DOUBLE=off
  -DGMX_THREAD_MPI=off -DGMX_MPI=on -DGMX_CPU_ACCELERATION=SSE4.1
 
 
  Unrelated, but you now need to use -DGMX_SIMD=SSE4.1 to have the same
  effect.
 
 
  -DGMX_USE_RDTSCP=off
 
  Then I got the error message.
  Boost = 1.44 not found. Using minimal internal version. This may cause
  trouble if you plan on compiling/linking other software that uses Boost
  against GROMACS.
  CMake Error at cmake/FindSphinx.cmake:52 (string):
   string sub-command REGEX, mode REPLACE needs at least 6 arguments total
  to
   command.
  Call Stack (most recent call first):
   docs/CMakeLists.txt:62 (find_package)
 
  Could you advice what could be causing this error?
 
  We try to find Sphinx in case people want to build the new documentation,
  but it looks like some part of the detection isn't reliable enough. Can
 you
  please try changing line 52 of cmake/FindSphinx.cmake to read
 
 string(REGEX REPLACE Sphinx \\([^)]*\\) ([^ ]+) \\1
  SPHINX_EXECUTABLE_VERSION ${SPHINX_VERSION_OUTPUT_VARIABLE})
 
  and let us know how you go?
 
  Mark
 
  I was able to compile Gromacs 5.0 using same cmake command….
 
  Bests,
  Leucer
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[gmx-users] Adding HSD residue to AMBER ff99SB-ILDN

2015-08-20 Thread Simone Bolognini
Hi everyone,
I have a .pdb file of the WW domain of human FIP35 protein extracted from
an MD calculation obtained with AMBER ff99SB-ILDN and solvent type tip3.
Now I need to obtain the topology out of it, but the .pdb contains a
residue, namely HSD, which is not present in the Amber residue database. I
looked at the source files and found out that CHARMM has it. In particular,
this is what you can find in the CHARMM database:

[ HSD ]
 [ atoms ]
N NH1 -0.47 0
HN H 0.31 1
CA CT1 0.07 2
HA HB 0.09 3
CB CT2 -0.09 4
HB1 HA 0.09 5
HB2 HA 0.09 6
ND1 NR1 -0.36 7
HD1 H 0.32 8
CG CPH1 -0.05 9
CE1 CPH2 0.25 10
HE1 HR1 0.13 11
NE2 NR2 -0.70 12
CD2 CPH1 0.22 13
HD2 HR3 0.10 14
C C 0.51 15
O O -0.51 16
 [ bonds ]
CB CA
CG CB
ND1 CG
CE1 ND1
NE2 CD2
N HN
N CA
C CA
C +N
CA HA
CB HB1
CB HB2
ND1 HD1
CD2 HD2
CE1 HE1
O C
CG CD2
CE1 NE2
 [ impropers ]
ND1 CG CE1 HD1
CD2 CG NE2 HD2
CE1 ND1 NE2 HE1
ND1 CE1 CG HD1
CD2 NE2 CG HD2
CE1 NE2 ND1 HE1
N -C CA HN
C CA +N O
 [ cmap ]
-C N CA C +N

Is there any possible way in which I can copy and paste this in the Amber
database and hope it will work correctly? Thank you very much!!!
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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Szilárd Páll
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Szilárd Páll pall.szil...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 You're not pinning threads and it seems that you're running on a large SMP
 machine! Assuming that the 512 threads reported (line 91) is correct that's
 a 32 socket SMP machine, perhaps an SGI UV? In any case Xeon E5-4xxx is
 typically deployed in 4-8 socket installations,


Correction: I confused the E5-46xx with the E7 series. These are 2-4
socket, it seems. In any case, the 512 threads reported still suggests a
large SMP machine.


 so your 8 threads will be floating around on a number of CPUs which ruins
 your performance - and likely contributes to the varying and large load
 imbalance.

 My advice:
 - don't ignore notes/warnings issued by mdrun (line 366, should be on the
 standard out too), we put quite some though into spamming users only when
 relevant :)
 - pin mdrun and/or its threads either with -pin on (and -pinoffset if
 needed) or with whatever tools your admins provide/recommend

 [Extras: consider using FFTW even with the Intel compilers it's often
 faster for our small FFTs than MKL; and GNU iso Intel compiler is often
 faster too.]

 Fixing the above issues should not only reduce imbalance but most likely
 also allow you to gain quite some simulation performance! Let us know if it
 worked.

 Cheers,

 --
 Szilárd

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Many thanks for looking into this.

 One of the log files (the job hasn’t finished running) is here:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwrro54yni2uxtn/umb_3_umb.log?dl=0

 The system is a soluble collagenase in water with a collagen substrate and
 two zinc co-factors. There are 287562 atoms in the system.

 Please let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks!

 Anthony





 On 20/08/2015 11:39, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation, and
 share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both
 the
 things mdrun reports early and late.
 
 Mark
 
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs. Values
  starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of
 around
  0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).
 
  When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:
 
  Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
  Dynamic load balancing: auto
  Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
  Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
  two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116
 3123
  Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
  Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans:
 0.862 nm
  Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
  This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
 -rcon
  Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
   ranks for efficient splitting
  Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
  Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.077
 nm
  The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
  Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
  PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
  Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
  Using 8 MPI processes
  Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process
 
 
 
 
  Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
  consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
  number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply be
 a
  case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around
 with
  P-LINCS parameters?
 
  Thanks
  Anthony
 
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[gmx-users] Fatal error: Index contains atom numbers larger than the topology

2015-08-20 Thread Marcelo Depólo
Hi!


I am running a DoS calculation using g_dos on 5.0.6 version, using the .tpr
used to generate a .trr trajectory. Hence, the topology and index should
contain the same number of atoms and I confirmed this by looking the number
of atoms on the generated .gro.

Still, I got the error:

Command =

*g_dos_506 -s ani.DOS.tpr -f ani.DOS.trr -beginfit 20 -endfit 40 -T 298
-dos ani.dos.xvg*










*Reading file ani.DOS.tpr, VERSION 5.0.6 (single precision)Reading file
ani.DOS.tpr, VERSION 5.0.6 (single precision)Group 0 ( System)
has 14000 elementsGroup 1 (  Other) has 14000 elementsGroup
2 (ANI) has 14000 elementsSelect a group:
0---Program g_dos_506,
VERSION 5.0.6Fatal error:Index contains atom numbers larger than the
topology*

Does anyone have an idea about it?
Cheers!
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Group of Structural Bioinformatics - Center of Biotechnology
Student of MSc Cell and Molecular Biology - UFRGS (Brazil)
B.Sc. Biochemistry - University of Viçosa (Brazil)
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Re: [gmx-users] High load imbalance: 31.8%

2015-08-20 Thread Nash, Anthony
Hi Szilárd

Thanks for all of that advice. I’m going to have to take a lot of this up
with the Cluster Service Staff. This is a new cluster service I won a
grant for, thus not my usual platform which would typically yield an
imbalance of somewhere around 0.8% to 2%.

Thanks again
Anthony



On 20/08/2015 16:52, Szilárd Páll pall.szil...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

You're not pinning threads and it seems that you're running on a large SMP
machine! Assuming that the 512 threads reported (line 91) is correct
that's
a 32 socket SMP machine, perhaps an SGI UV? In any case Xeon E5-4xxx is
typically deployed in 4-8 socket installations, so your 8 threads will be
floating around on a number of CPUs which ruins your performance - and
likely contributes to the varying and large load imbalance.

My advice:
- don't ignore notes/warnings issued by mdrun (line 366, should be on the
standard out too), we put quite some though into spamming users only when
relevant :)
- pin mdrun and/or its threads either with -pin on (and -pinoffset if
needed) or with whatever tools your admins provide/recommend

[Extras: consider using FFTW even with the Intel compilers it's often
faster for our small FFTs than MKL; and GNU iso Intel compiler is often
faster too.]

Fixing the above issues should not only reduce imbalance but most likely
also allow you to gain quite some simulation performance! Let us know if
it
worked.

Cheers,

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Szilárd

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Many thanks for looking into this.

 One of the log files (the job hasn’t finished running) is here:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwrro54yni2uxtn/umb_3_umb.log?dl=0

 The system is a soluble collagenase in water with a collagen substrate
and
 two zinc co-factors. There are 287562 atoms in the system.

 Please let me know if you need to know anything else. Thanks!

 Anthony





 On 20/08/2015 11:39, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In cases like this, it's good to describe what's in your simulation,
and
 share the full .log file on a file-sharing service, so we can see both
the
 things mdrun reports early and late.
 
 Mark
 
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:22 AM Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I appear to have a very high load imbalance on some of my runs.
Values
  starting from approx. 7% up to 31.8% with reported vol min/aver of
 around
  0.6 (I haven¹t found one under half yet).
 
  When I look through the .log file at the start of the run I see:
 
  Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 ranks
  Dynamic load balancing: auto
  Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
  Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
  two-body bonded interactions: 0.514 nm, LJ-14, atoms 3116 3123
multi-body bonded interactions: 0.429 nm, Proper Dih., atoms 3116
3123
  Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.472 nm
  Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans:
 0.862 nm
  Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.862 nm
  This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
 -rcon
  Using 0 separate PME ranks, as there are too few total
   ranks for efficient splitting
  Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
  Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of
1.077
 nm
  The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 12 Y 12 Z 12
  Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME ranks 0
  PME domain decomposition: 4 x 2 x 1
  Domain decomposition rank 0, coordinates 0 0 0
  Using 8 MPI processes
  Using 1 OpenMP thread per MPI process
 
 
 
 
  Having a quick look through the documentation and I see that I should
  consider implementing the verlet cut-off (which I am) and adjust the
  number of PME nodes/cut-off and PME grid spacing. Would this simply
be a
  case of throwing more cores at the simulation or must I play around
with
  P-LINCS parameters?
 
  Thanks
  Anthony
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Index contains atom numbers larger than the topology

2015-08-20 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/20/15 12:12 PM, Marcelo Depólo wrote:

Hi!


I am running a DoS calculation using g_dos on 5.0.6 version, using the .tpr
used to generate a .trr trajectory. Hence, the topology and index should
contain the same number of atoms and I confirmed this by looking the number
of atoms on the generated .gro.



This check tells you nothing of use.  A .gro will always have the whole system 
in it; there's no way to write out a subset of atoms here via mdrun.



Still, I got the error:

Command =

*g_dos_506 -s ani.DOS.tpr -f ani.DOS.trr -beginfit 20 -endfit 40 -T 298
-dos ani.dos.xvg*


*Reading file ani.DOS.tpr, VERSION 5.0.6 (single precision)Reading file
ani.DOS.tpr, VERSION 5.0.6 (single precision)Group 0 ( System)
has 14000 elementsGroup 1 (  Other) has 14000 elementsGroup
2 (ANI) has 14000 elementsSelect a group:
0---Program g_dos_506,
VERSION 5.0.6Fatal error:Index contains atom numbers larger than the
topology*

Does anyone have an idea about it?


What does gmxcheck tell you about all the files involved?  How did you generate 
the index file?  As the error says, the problem comes from the index file 
specifying something that doesn't exist in the topology.


-Justin

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