Re: [gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-16 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/16/15 12:47 AM, sridhar dwadasi wrote:

Thank you for the response.
In case of an all atom representation, the connections are different. What
about a united atom representation? The g_x2top supports Gromacs 53a5
forcefield right?


If you write an .n2t file for it, sure.


Can we get a topology with x2top only for an all atom representation? Or is
there anyway to get it for gromos or opls ua ?



No, it works with any force field for which an .n2t file exists.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-16 Thread sridhar dwadasi
Hi Dr. Justin Lemkul,
  Thank you for responding again. I'm still not understanding it :(.
 I'll try to be more clear. Taking the example of OPLS UA, we have
different atom types for united alkene atoms (-CH= and CH2=) and alkanes
(-CH2-). When I represent the connections in n2t file, the -CH2- and -CH=
will have two connections each. and the distances with other united carbons
are 0.154nm and 0.140 nm as I have mentioned before. I have been giving the
same information in the .n2t file. Based on the order in which they appear
in the .n2t file, the atom appearing first is being taken by x2top to
create the topology. I hope I made my problem clear. I'm unable to post my
.n2t file now as I do not have it with me at the moment. If required I can
post it tomorrow.

Thanks and Regards
Sridhar
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Re: [gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-16 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/16/15 12:57 PM, sridhar dwadasi wrote:

Hi Dr. Justin Lemkul,
   Thank you for responding again. I'm still not understanding it :(.
  I'll try to be more clear. Taking the example of OPLS UA, we have
different atom types for united alkene atoms (-CH= and CH2=) and alkanes
(-CH2-). When I represent the connections in n2t file, the -CH2- and -CH=
will have two connections each. and the distances with other united carbons
are 0.154nm and 0.140 nm as I have mentioned before. I have been giving the
same information in the .n2t file. Based on the order in which they appear
in the .n2t file, the atom appearing first is being taken by x2top to
create the topology. I hope I made my problem clear. I'm unable to post my
.n2t file now as I do not have it with me at the moment. If required I can
post it tomorrow.



Yes, please post the .n2t file.  Just keep in mind that x2top is a very 
simplistic program; you may have to play some tricks to get such a subtle 
distinction to work correctly.  UA models will be particularly tricky because 
there won't necessarily be any H to distinguish different forms.  You may have 
to either play with the specified bond length (putting one outside of the 10% 
tolerance of the other) or re-compile the code after modifying the allowable 
tolerance.  In this case, 10% may be too permissive.


-Justin

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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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[gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-15 Thread sridhar dwadasi
Thank you for the response.
In case of an all atom representation, the connections are different. What
about a united atom representation? The g_x2top supports Gromacs 53a5
forcefield right?
Can we get a topology with x2top only for an all atom representation? Or is
there anyway to get it for gromos or opls ua ?

Thanks and Regards
Sridhar
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Re: [gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-13 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/13/15 1:38 AM, sridhar dwadasi wrote:

Dear gromac users,
I'm using g_x2top (4.6.7 version), to generate a topology. The compound
contains double bonds. I have a problem in setting correct topology.
The C1 in both the cases -C1H=C2H2 and -C1H2- is being assigned the same
type, though I'm mentioning different distances in the n2t file. This may
be due to the small difference in distance (0.140 nm and 0.154 nm).
Can anyone suggest a way to go about this?



Because 0.14 and 0.154 are exactly 10% apart (w.r.t. 0.140) so x2top can't 
distinguish between them based solely on bond length.  The bonded connectivity 
is different, though, in terms of C1 (bonded to 3 groups only) so that suggests 
your .n2t file isn't constructed correctly.  C1 in the alkane should have 4 
substitutents, two of which are H.  In the alkene, 3 substituents, with 1 H.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] How does x2top recognize between alkane C and alkene C

2015-07-12 Thread sridhar dwadasi
Dear gromac users,
I'm using g_x2top (4.6.7 version), to generate a topology. The compound
contains double bonds. I have a problem in setting correct topology.
The C1 in both the cases -C1H=C2H2 and -C1H2- is being assigned the same
type, though I'm mentioning different distances in the n2t file. This may
be due to the small difference in distance (0.140 nm and 0.154 nm).
Can anyone suggest a way to go about this?

Thanks and Regards
Sridhar
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