RE: Lake Placid information
Ray: I'll check with my service manager at work...he ski's there alot and should be able to help you Shawn P
Protecting the Crown
I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Re: Girth matters...Friction semi fluff
Greg According to CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, 71st Ed. , pg 15-41, "The coefficient of friction between two surfaces is the ratio of the force required to move one over the other to the total force pressing the two together. If F is the force required to move one surface over the other and W, the force pressing the surfaces together, the coefficient of friction, u = F / W." Note: u is actually the Greek letter mu which I can't type in this format. Therefore the friction force is = coefficient of (static) friction X total force pressing the surfaces together (on a horizontal surface, the weight). The coefficient for rubber is given as 1 to 4. Bill -Original Message- From: Greg Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, May 14, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Girth matters... ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 May 2000 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Actually, I did take physics once. No make that twice. :) Force (of friction) = coefficient of static friction X surface area in contact or Force (of friction) = coefficient of sliding friction X surface area in contact In the former case, if the centripetal force of the bike in the turn exceeds the force of friction, you will start to slide. Then, the latter takes effect. Anyway, no way around it. Given the same compound, the wider tire will grip more, Unless it's over inflated to the point where the contact patch is less then the smaller sized tire's was when it was inflated properly. -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Outside of a dog, books are man's best friend. (inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
Re: Tires Again
Finally back on line and good to be back on our list after a month from hell with my PC, looks like I got all the bugs out of the system. What did I miss on this hea list anyway? As for tires, BT57s are best for GTS. George is back and meaner then ever _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Lake Placid, NY information
I plan to stay overnight in Lake Placid, NY and be able to walk from my hotel to the downtown area. I have downloaded a bunch of motels from the Internet, but don't know if they are in the main district, or if they want my first born for a nights stay. Does anyone out there have any knowledge of the area and can give me guidance? Ray
New Member
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Fluff: Isle of Man TT Races
Anyone going there? I'll be there 3 - 7 June. Let me know if you are..Gary?and we'll meet up somewhere. You next year, Phil! Regards, Rob Chapman
Re: Girth matters...
I agree with you, it is too dark inside a dog to read... But riddle me this--why do longer snow skis make you go downhill faster? Wouldn't more contact patch produce more friction and slow you down? Where is the "normal" force in your equation? When you spread the weight (a constant, at least before breakfast) over a larger surface area, you decrease the "normal" force--the force that multiplies the coefficient to get traction. I'm going to try the stock sizes my next set, even the 130 front (I'll just have to work out harder). I do believe the 180's flat spot quicker, at least here in Florida, where the cloverleafs are to few. I like the Azarro's pretty much, but they don't have a 130 front and I got the shakes back pretty early and they wander a bit over 120... Also, I never disagree with BOB ;) Kevin, who must have taken physics inside the dog --- Greg Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 May 2000 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Actually, I did take physics once. No make that twice. :) Force (of friction) = coefficient of static friction X surface area in contact or Force (of friction) = coefficient of sliding friction X surface area in contact In the former case, if the centripetal force of the bike in the turn exceeds the force of friction, you will start to slide. Then, the latter takes effect. Anyway, no way around it. Given the same compound, the wider tire will grip more, Unless it's over inflated to the point where the contact patch is less then the smaller sized tire's was when it was inflated properly. -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Outside of a dog, books are man's best friend. (inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Fluff: Isle of Man TT Races
Plans are underway for 2001 here. Could be as many as half a dozen, coming from New Mexico and Oregon. Phil On Mon, 15 May 2000, Rob Chapman wrote: Anyone going there? I'll be there 3 - 7 June. Let me know if you are..Gary?and we'll meet up somewhere. You next year, Phil! Regards, Rob Chapman
Re: Protecting the Crown
In a message dated 5/15/2000 12:17:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you all recommend? Don't use a key chain.
Up loading a picture and other bits
Guys, I have recently joined the Yahoo GTS1000 club, (12 months late but never mind). How can I post pictures of me with my GTS? BTW finally ditched the tires that came with the bike and fitted BT57's BIG SMILE TIME! Also, set all Pots on the ECU to 1:00 O'clockVERY BIG SMILE TIME!!! No surging, no wimp strips and no worries. France in 5 weeks and I can't wait. Saw another GTS in the flesh last weekend, 1st ever in the UK that I have seen, other than mine! 94, blue, abs, immac, 5K miles and the guy got it for ?4500.00, git. But I've got OEM luggage, he had mass of Givi bolted on! He told me that he got 2 screens with his machine, special video, key ring etc. He has owned several Pan Euro's and 2 FJ1200's, and both he and his wife like the GTS best. He was surprised to find a 26 year old singing the praises of the GTS, expecting me to be on an R1 etc. I told him that I could not imagine swapping my GTS for any other bike, even if I could afford it. I fly out to San Jose on Saturday for a weeks training. Thought about hiring a bike, any ideas? Regards, David Evans 99 T GTS
Re: Protecting the Crown
Henry send me your address and I will mail you one of the little foam sheets that I use. It is made by 3M and ~1/8" thick. I cut a hole for the keys and trimmed it a little. It has been working well for a couple years now. Another alternative would be some clear vinyl sheet like what is used for number backgrounds for dirt bikes (if it is available in clear it would look better than the foam material I use.) Louis Henry wrote: I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Re: Girth matters...
Try a different brand of tire. My Azaro wandered like crazy and wore out faster than my MEZ4's. Louis P.S. Where are you going downhill skiing in Florida?? I'm going to try the stock sizes my next set, even the 130 front (I'll just have to work out harder). I do believe the 180's flat spot quicker, at least here in Florida, where the cloverleafs are to few. I like the Azarro's pretty much, but they don't have a 130 front and I got the shakes back pretty early and they wander a bit over 120...
Re: Protecting the Crown
Henry, I hate the scratches as well. So what I have done since my first bike is to have a soft key tag and only the bike key on that ring. Problem solved. But then you may say, what if I lose the key. I always have a spare hidden on it somewhere. Just don't tell anyone. I really can't understand those people who think they have to have all of their keys on one ring and then expect not to scratch stuff. My .02 Grant Henry wrote: I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Tires
Thanks for the info on tires. I went out and purchased a 170/60ZR17 Michelin Macadam 90XR. I wanted a BT57, but it would have taken them to long to get it in. The front is still the 130 and will last this season. We will see how it lasts. It will get a work out this weekend approx 1200 miles. Oh ya, the Michelin has a cool tread too! Grant Gall
Suspension Settings
This question has also been asked before, so once again I am not trying to start another long thread. Is it the owners manual or the shop/service manual that has the settings backwards? Is for the front or the rear? Thanks, Grant Gall
Re: Protecting the Crown
The most simple solution is not to put any extra keys on your chain (joke) Another solution might be to store your keys in a small leather bag, only the contact key comes out and the keybag can hang in front of the crown. This is what I do, and it works great Michel Bijl - Original Message - From: Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Protecting the Crown I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
I'm looking for a Corbin seat with backrest
Anyone know where I could find a used Corbin with backrest. It's going to be custom upholstered, so all I really need is the pan and the backrest. If you have one and don't like it, I have a stock seat and a Corbin solo seat available for swap. I need the backrest because I keep losing girlfriends off the back and I'm tired of looking for new ones. Fred Grefe
Bridgestone tire
BTW, I heard that the BT-57 would be replaced by the BT-010 Richard -Original Message- From: David Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 3:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Up loading a picture and other bits Guys, I have recently joined the Yahoo GTS1000 club, (12 months late but never mind). How can I post pictures of me with my GTS? BTW finally ditched the tires that came with the bike and fitted BT57's BIG SMILE TIME! Also, set all Pots on the ECU to 1:00 O'clockVERY BIG SMILE TIME!!! No surging, no wimp strips and no worries. France in 5 weeks and I can't wait. Saw another GTS in the flesh last weekend, 1st ever in the UK that I have seen, other than mine! 94, blue, abs, immac, 5K miles and the guy got it for ?4500.00, git. But I've got OEM luggage, he had mass of Givi bolted on! He told me that he got 2 screens with his machine, special video, key ring etc. He has owned several Pan Euro's and 2 FJ1200's, and both he and his wife like the GTS best. He was surprised to find a 26 year old singing the praises of the GTS, expecting me to be on an R1 etc. I told him that I could not imagine swapping my GTS for any other bike, even if I could afford it. I fly out to San Jose on Saturday for a weeks training. Thought about hiring a bike, any ideas? Regards, David Evans 99 T GTS
smith brothers exhaust
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Re: I'm looking for a Corbin seat with backrest
What is a single Corbin seat. I am trying to add 4 to 5 inches to my seat height. Any suggestions other than custom? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: I'm looking for a Corbin seat with backrest Anyone know where I could find a used Corbin with backrest. It's going to be custom upholstered, so all I really need is the pan and the backrest. If you have one and don't like it, I have a stock seat and a Corbin solo seat available for swap. I need the backrest because I keep losing girlfriends off the back and I'm tired of looking for new ones. Fred Grefe
Re: adding height to a seat (was:I'm looking for a Corbin)
In a message dated 5/15/00 8:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a single Corbin seat. It has a seating area for the rider only. www.corbin.com I am trying to add 4 to 5 inches to my seat height. Holy cow! How tall are you? Try www.sasquach.com Any suggestions other than custom? Eat more and get fat. Sit on a phone book. Add an air cushion. I can't think of a way to safely add that much height without having to worry about sliding off. Henry Winokur had a few inches added. I'm sure there are others who'll have something to say. (something useful George) Fred Grefe
RE: I'm looking for a Corbin seat with backrest
In Daytona, on the FRONT of a females T-shirt-- "If you can read this, I divorced the bastard and kept the bike" Touche! Kevin --- "Hawkins, Kevin L, SITS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, you need the T-shirt that says on the back "If you can read this, the bitch fell off!" :^) For the ladies who are in lurk mode, I apologize. :^) Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 7:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject:I'm looking for a Corbin seat with backrest I need the backrest because I keep losing girlfriends off the back and I'm tired of looking for new ones. Fred Grefe __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Protecting the Crown
I don't know if this will work with all helmets, but I have a shoei and hide a key under the liner at the forehead. I'll always have a spare with me. It doesn't interfere with the comfort. Ray
Re: New Member
Welcome to the list. I put a Vance Hines SS2R on my GTS. The model made for the YZF750 slips on. The only modification I made was to secure a small metal plate the pipe with a hose clamp where the centerstand rubber stopper would contact the pipe itself (you can see what I mean by looking at the stock pipe). Some people on the list have just let the rubber piece rest against the pipe (I don't know how it handles the heat on long rides). I put a carbon fiber version on, but they make the pipe in SS too. BTW it sounds great. Steve Puig San Salvador - Original Message - From: k9kiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: New Member This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBE06.C68A5920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Riders, I'm a fellow GTS owner and I LOVE this machine. I've put new tires on = after researching this web-site and have been convinced that any further = questions about the machine will be addressed here.=20 A little about myself: I've been riding for thirty years, starting at 9 years old. My Dad's = riding peaked my interest and for that I'm grateful. Currently I own = three machines, my antic 650 Kawasaki, a 1999 Goldwing (Momma's = favorite) and my favorite, "THE GTS". Get alot of ??? when riding. Not = to many GTS riders in Jersey.=20 Question: Anyone know of an exhaust system or slip-on other then "Smith = Brothers" $300.00 Pipe? May all your rides be safe and cool. PEACE!!! = "CruzinTrooper" --=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBE06.C68A5920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hey Riders,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2I'm a fellow GTS owner and I LOVE this = machine.=20 I've put new tires on after researching this web-site and have been = convinced=20 thatnbsp;any further questions about the machine will be addressed = here.=20 /FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2A little about myself:/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2I've been riding for thirty years, = starting at 9=20 years old. My Dad's riding peaked my interest and for that I'm grateful. = Currently I own three machines, my antic 650 Kawasaki, a 1999 Goldwing = (Momma's=20 favorite) and my favorite, "THE GTS".nbsp; Get alot of ??? when riding. = Not to=20 many GTS riders in Jersey. /FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Question: Anyone know of an exhaust = system or=20 slip-on other then "Smith Brothers" $300.00/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbs= p;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;=20 Pipe?/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2May all your rides be safe and = cool.nbsp;nbsp;=20 PEACE!!!/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbs= p;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp= ;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;= nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;= nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;n= bsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nb= sp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;=20 "CruzinTrooper"/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBE06.C68A5920--
Re: Protecting the Crown
Henry I got a roll of 2" x 10 mil clear vinyl tape - found it at Quality Farm Fleet. It was intended to repair vinyl "storm windows". I use it on the passenger grab handles to protect them from bungies. The brand is Polyken from Polyken Technologies, Mansfield, MA 02048 - at least that's what it says on the inside of the roll. I think it woud work for what you want. Bill -Original Message- From: Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: Protecting the Crown I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
