RE: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets?
I used to think the same thing, until I installed one. I was able to make mine quite inconspicuous mounted on the license plate bracket! Here are before and after pictures. http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/gts1000/newgts5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/luggage1.jpg It's at different angles, but you can see that it simply added only about 3" to that area. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets? You know, I have been quiet for a long time about the ScottOiler topic. I have to say that there is one thing you can't say about the ScottOiler and that is how good it looks. That is one ugly piece of art work in my honest opinion. Sorry Henry. My .02 Grant Gall Henry S. Winokur wrote: cracks in any body panels. As for chain and sprockets I don't know what's best. Some like to stay OEM and others are going for smaller chains and have to change both sprockets. I hope that I to can get enough info because I think I will need to next year with the miles that the bike will have by then. Can you say "ScottOiler"? This is the best solution for: 1. keeping the chain oiled, EVEN WHEN YOU FORGET TO DO IT and 2. keeping your money in your pocket for other things than new sprockets and chain. I realize that I'll have to change the chain eventually, but if using the ScottOiler can prevent it for awhile longer, or in some case a GREAT while longer for about $150 and a couple of hours to install it, then that is the way to go. I can't say enough good things about this device. Suffice it to say: it works, and my chain is always lubed! Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
RE: GTS to FZR stuff
Well, I was in a hurry and was looking at the numbers, not reading the chart. You're correct though! Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: John Laurenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: GTS to FZR stuff _ Kevin, Are we looking at the same charts...it looks like a torque loss for the modified engine to me and a HP gain at high RPM only with a loss in HP at lower revs.. what am I reading wrong? hawke
RE: Any Chicago GTS riders?
I'm at MidWay Sleep-Inn Friday through next Wednesday Cicero Avenue Shawn Pearsall
Re: Tire Report
Just a little curious, isn't the 880 a bias tire? And an MEZ4 should not have 40PSI in the front. My MEZ4's last about 8k miles and handle excellent. The Avon front I had was good, but not up to the same level as a MEZ4. (the rear Avon is a dissaster in my opinion.) My bike has never had any of the mythical headshake, deceleration wobble, etc. with any tire so all my findings are based on traction and wear. the tires that came on my bike when I got it were Dunflop 204 Front, 205 Rear. These tires had decent traction all around but excibited major cupping on the front, and major stepping on the rear. My next set were a set of Mez 1 Front and rear. Heh heh hee..reaction while riding: damn this is goood. Reaction after stopping: damn, where did my tire go???!! After that I changed to the MEZ4. Excellent tire. While in Lake George in 1999 I had a set of Avon Azaros put on. 5500 miles later they came off. Rear was worn out at 4000, and the rear tire had a wobble or instability when riding in straight lines. Oh, and the wet traction on the Azaro rear sucks, really good tire if you want to practice for dirt track racing. Louis
chains and shocks
(donning Brandon's flamesuit): I think you guys oiling your chains are barking up the wrong tree. Unless you're running non O-ring chain, those neat little neoprene O-rings on either end of each pin are keeping all that lubrication out of the area where it could do any good. The buildup of oil (or chain lube or whatever) attracts dirt, grit, etc which is of course detrimental to the sealing properties of the O-rings. I 'wash' my chain with WD-40 (yeah I know it's essentially kerosene) periodically to get all the grit off and wipe it down with a couple shop rags. My O-rings stay happy (I've asked em!), and my chain and rear wheel stay clean. For those enquiring minds, I'm running Tsubaki 530 XO, and I get about 20,000 miles out of a chain. Re: the stock shocks, they might be Ohlins, but I couldn't find anyone willing to rebuild my stock rear shock when I blew a seal about 3 years ago. I now have (afermarket) Ohlins on both ends, and they are definitely not the same units as the stockers. Flame ON, List! Doug Wilson
AW: chains and shocks
Dear Mr. Ritzalot ! We, over here in Bavaria, have drastic words about that issue... "Riding a unlubed chain is like f a dry lady." What tells us nature about that ? a.) If you bring two things together, with pressure and power, you better add some thing to grease them. b.) If you forget to grease them, you will here a lot of ugly noise. c.) Some perverts like it the other way. Joerg, wearing a flame suit -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 21. September 2000 15:45 An: Multiple recipients of list Betreff: chains and shocks (donning Brandon's flamesuit): I think you guys oiling your chains are barking up the wrong tree. Unless you're running non O-ring chain, those neat little neoprene O-rings on either end of each pin are keeping all that lubrication out of the area where it could do any good. The buildup of oil (or chain lube or whatever) attracts dirt, grit, etc which is of course detrimental to the sealing properties of the O-rings. I 'wash' my chain with WD-40 (yeah I know it's essentially kerosene) periodically to get all the grit off and wipe it down with a couple shop rags. My O-rings stay happy (I've asked em!), and my chain and rear wheel stay clean. For those enquiring minds, I'm running Tsubaki 530 XO, and I get about 20,000 miles out of a chain. Re: the stock shocks, they might be Ohlins, but I couldn't find anyone willing to rebuild my stock rear shock when I blew a seal about 3 years ago. I now have (afermarket) Ohlins on both ends, and they are definitely not the same units as the stockers. Flame ON, List! Doug Wilson
Re: Tire Report
At 09:34 21/09/00 -0400, you wrote: Just a little curious, isn't the 880 a bias tire? the ME 880 MARATHON has a "machine-specific optimised carcass"; some of them are bias-belted, some, such as the 150/80 R 17, are a Steel Radial ; none of them are recommended for the GTS. And an MEZ4 should not have 40PSI in the front. From www.metzeler.de: Front: ME Z4 FRONT 120/70 ZR 17 (58W) TL 36 psi Rear: ME Z4 170/60 ZR 17 (72W) TL 37 psi - they don't quote a pressure for a 180/55 rear on a GTS, though it's listed as a fitment, but if you pretend you have a Thunderace rather than a GTS, you'll see: Front: ME Z4 FRONT 120/70 ZR 17 (58W) TL 36 psi Rear: ME Z4 180/55 ZR 17 (73W) TL 42 psi Yet I'm pretty sure that I was told by Metzeler UK to put 29 in the front and 35 in the back! Hmmm, I'd better check!
Re: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets?
In your message dated: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:48:34 EDT, your pithy ruminations on Re: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets? were: = You know, I have been quiet for a long time about the ScottOiler topic. = I have to say that there is one thing you can't say about the ScottOiler = and that is how good it looks. = = That is one ugly piece of art work in my honest opinion. It all depends on how you install it... See: http://www.panix.com/~bergman/oiler.html http://www.panix.com/~bergman/profileswitch.shtml for how it _should_ be done! :) I've got about 26k miles on my current chain sprockets, and it's at about 1/3 of the adjustment on the swingarm. The rear sprocket shows no appreciable wear. I hope to get ~35k or more on the chain. Oh yeah, I ride on dirt roads, in the rain, and in very dusty conditions too often. That combination will turn "ordinary" chain lube into a fine lapping paste, just the thing to grind down metal bits. Mark = = Sorry Henry. = = My .02 = = Grant Gall = = Henry S. Winokur wrote: = = cracks in any body panels. As for chain and sprockets I don't know what's = best. Some like to stay OEM and others are going for smaller chains and = have to change both sprockets. I hope that I to can get enough info = because I think I will need to next year with the miles that the bike will = have by then. = = Can you say "ScottOiler"? This is the best solution for: = = 1. keeping the chain oiled, EVEN WHEN YOU FORGET TO DO IT and = 2. keeping your money in your pocket for other things than new sprockets and = chain. = = I realize that I'll have to change the chain eventually, but if using the = ScottOiler can prevent it for awhile longer, or in some case a GREAT while = longer for about $150 and a couple of hours to install it, then that is the = way to go. = = I can't say enough good things about this device. Suffice it to say: it = works, and my chain is always lubed! = = Regards, = = Henry S. Winokur = 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor = West Bethesda, MD = -- Mark BergmanBiker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic '94 Yamaha GTS1000A [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman
Re: chains and shocks
In your message dated: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:45:11 EDT, your pithy ruminations on chains and shocks were: = (donning Brandon's flamesuit): = I think you guys oiling your chains are barking up the wrong tree. Unless you're running non O-r = ing chain, those neat little neoprene O-rings on either end of each pin are keeping all that lub = rication out of the area where it could do any good. The buildup of oil (or chain lube or whatev Ah, but there's the difference with the ScottOiler (gee, you'd think I was selling the damn things)...the oil is very thin, and basically washes the dirt and grit off the chain continuously, rather than being something sticky to hold the crap on the chain. = er) attracts dirt, grit, etc which is of course detrimental to the sealing properties of the O-r = ings. I 'wash' my chain with WD-40 (yeah I know it's essentially kerosene) periodically to get a = ll the grit off and wipe it down with a couple shop rags. My O-rings stay happy (I've asked em!) = , and my chain and rear wheel stay clean. For those enquiring minds, I'm running Tsubaki 530 XO, = and I get about 20,000 miles out of a chain. = Like I said, I'm at ~26k miles now, with about 1/3 of the adjustment distance used, and a smooth-turning, un-worn looking chain sprockets. = Re: the stock shocks, they might be Ohlins, but I couldn't find anyone willing to rebuild my sto = ck rear shock when I blew a seal about 3 years ago. I now have (afermarket) Ohlins on both ends, = and they are definitely not the same units as the stockers. Circuit 1 will rebuild shocks. About $175. A noticible difference for me after 45k miles. Of course, the shock linkages badly needed lubrication at that point too, so that may have been part of the better feel. Mark = = Flame ON, List! = = Doug Wilson = = -- Mark BergmanBiker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic '94 Yamaha GTS1000A [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman
Re: AW: chains and shocks (fluff)
I've ignored this thread and stayed out of the rather busy list lately, but, Joerg, you finally got me to chuckle. Thanks. Jay In a message dated 9/21/00 7:54:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Riding a unlubed chain is like
RE: chains and shocks
Global Terminology: I'm amazed at how small this work is getting every dayin any language F* a dry ladymakes it point now doesn't it! Joerg...your english is improving! (It was always good anyway :) ) #2 Looking forward to having a cold one at the SA Convention in Chicago next week!
Scottoiler
It's not that bad ! Specially if you put a cover like Kev, Here's my installation : http://www.lanouette.net/pages/scottoil.html Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hawkins, Kevin Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets? I used to think the same thing, until I installed one. I was able to make mine quite inconspicuous mounted on the license plate bracket! Here are before and after pictures. http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/gts1000/newgts5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/luggage1.jpg It's at different angles, but you can see that it simply added only about 3" to that area. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets? You know, I have been quiet for a long time about the ScottOiler topic. I have to say that there is one thing you can't say about the ScottOiler and that is how good it looks. That is one ugly piece of art work in my honest opinion. Sorry Henry. My .02 Grant Gall Henry S. Winokur wrote: cracks in any body panels. As for chain and sprockets I don't know what's best. Some like to stay OEM and others are going for smaller chains and have to change both sprockets. I hope that I to can get enough info because I think I will need to next year with the miles that the bike will have by then. Can you say "ScottOiler"? This is the best solution for: 1. keeping the chain oiled, EVEN WHEN YOU FORGET TO DO IT and 2. keeping your money in your pocket for other things than new sprockets and chain. I realize that I'll have to change the chain eventually, but if using the ScottOiler can prevent it for awhile longer, or in some case a GREAT while longer for about $150 and a couple of hours to install it, then that is the way to go. I can't say enough good things about this device. Suffice it to say: it works, and my chain is always lubed! Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
RE: GTS to FZR stuff
Greg had his 93 GTS on the same dyno at Mid Ohio and the paperwork from the test that he showed me had his bike at 102 HP. It should be noted that his motor was hurt by the guy on the dyno. I have not heard from him since the race in July but he has a ride back to the Philly area..maybe Greg is somewhere near Latrobe by now Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject:Re: GTS to FZR stuff At Mid Ohio this summer they graunched a guy's bike on the dyno. Paul I were over at the track, saw a large blue cloud at the dyno, wandered over to see what was happening. Comment I may never forget "I think I just paid a guy to blow up my bike." If you think about it you're paying some guy you don't know $5/minute to abuse your bike. No downside him but a long walk home for you. I don't remember for sure but I'm thinking it was GSXR. Bill -Original Message- From: Burton, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:42 PM Subject: RE: GTS to FZR stuff snip Kevin wrote: Nobody's ever put at GTS on the dyno before large snip Actually Tony Grafals did dyno a GTS stock, with KN's and with the KN's along with a VH pipe. I still have the charts if someone is interested or I can send it to Brandon to put on the web site. Bob B. ps BTW while at Deal's Gap this past weekend they had a portable dyno at the store. While we were there they dyno tested a 929RR.
www.superchips.co.uk
Okay; who's going to be first ?! -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before I criticize a man, I walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot.
Re: www.superchips.co.uk
..did I mention I sleep in Nomex pajama's?! But somebody stole my slippers??? Okay; who's going to be first ?! Before I criticize a man, I walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot. Charlie D 94GTS1K-A - Original Message - From: Greg Christopher To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: www.superchips.co.uk -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tire Report
John, I cannot resist adding my .02$ to your tire report too. I sounds like your last trip was awesome, 11,000 miles through the western states is something! There is a whole lot of nothing out there! Did you get a chance to stop at any of the natural hotsprings? They can be hard to find, but feel great after some of "those" roads! I also run a Metzler on the front, but I run the MEz3. It seems to wear pretty even for me? I ride a lot of twisties and I like them best. I have the MEz4 on the rear and it works well. My only complaints (minor) about the tires are they are a bit unpredictable in the rain and they only last me about 4500 to 5000 rear and 5500 to 6500 in the front. I usually go through two sets a season or so and always hate bringing the bike to the shop in the middle of summer. I have never tried the MEz 4 in the front, but suspect it would be similar to your experience. Do you have any pics of the "super bike handle bars" you mentioned? Charlie D 94GTS1K-A - Original Message - From: John Laurenson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:27 PM Subject: Tire Report i just got in from a few days short of four weeks touring the Western national parks and an Iron Butt get together in Gerlach, Nevada. The GTS was well represented in Gerlach with three GTS's, Rogers and SteeliDan being the other bikes. Missed Dave Biasotti, it would have made four GTS's. Two with HawkeOilers no less...:). A lot of time spent comparing how our bikes were set up and a chance to ride two other GTS's. It was great. Roger's Super Bike handle bars are my next mod. They make a significant improvement in handling. I also, found out the stock GTS shocks are Ohlins to start with and can be rebuilt. Makes sense seeing that Yamaha owns a piece of Ohlin and would only want the best on their Super bike. I installed a set of Metzlers, the 880 on the rear and a Mez4 on the front. The rear went on three weeks earlier and had 3,000 miles on it at the start. The trip took me a little over 11,000 miles and both tires lasted the full tour. Both tires saw some hard riding and more twisties than I want to see for a while. Mostly dry weather so I can't comment on how they stick in real wet weather. I ran the rear with 42 psig and front 40 psig, cold. The 880 rear still has at least another 5,000 miles left in it. The front Mez4 got 11,000 miles of life and is shot , with very little thread left. It wore like and inverted triangle with the point worn flat. The side walls were worn well before the center. I will use the 880 on the rear again, but the Mez4 is a handling disaster. From the time I put it on the front it was scary. At very low speed you would think the tire was going flat it let the bike move about so wildly. The Mez4 has a 1" hard rubber strip down the center and softer rubber sides. The sides start to wear very quickly and cause a very unstable condition on anything but a level surface. The slight depressions from trucks in the right hand lane would cause the bike to unpredictably and rapidly climb and shoot off in the direction of the slope. At low speeds it was a handful to keep the bike straight and upright on anything but a flat gravel free surface. I have had good service from the Avon Azaro on the front with out the handling problems. It looks like my next set will be 880 rear and Azaro front. The GTS performed flawlessly. I did have to reset both the ABS and bike computer once, a minor hick-up. ( key on-kill switch-push start a dozen times) If you don't wait for the computers to go through their automatic check before starting you can confuse them hawke
RE: ScottOiler FLUFF
Don't tell me, that's Marcy's bag on the left... Fl Kev --- "Hawkins, Kevin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to think the same thing, until I installed one. I was able to make mine quite inconspicuous mounted on the license plate bracket! Here are before and after pictures. http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/gts1000/newgts5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/luggage1.jpg It's at different angles, but you can see that it simply added only about 3" to that area. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: chains and shocks
The point of the chain lube is to keep the O rings moist and pliable so they do retain the lube that's inside. But, I just can't see past all the bearing surfaces on the outside of a chain, so I like the idea of constant lube. The oil is non-detergent and flings off (hopefully with all the dirt) and my chain remains fairly clean (don't ask about the rear wheel, though). I've got 27,000 on my stock chain and am just now starting to shop for a new set due to the front sprocket. Chain and rear sprocket still look good. FL Kev --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (donning Brandon's flamesuit): I think you guys oiling your chains are barking up the wrong tree. Unless you're running non O-ring chain, those neat little neoprene O-rings on either end of each pin are keeping all that lubrication out of the area where it could do any good. The buildup of oil (or chain lube or whatever) attracts dirt, grit, etc which is of course detrimental to the sealing properties of the O-rings. I 'wash' my chain with WD-40 (yeah I know it's essentially kerosene) periodically to get all the grit off and wipe it down with a couple shop rags. My O-rings stay happy (I've asked em!), and my chain and rear wheel stay clean. For those enquiring minds, I'm running Tsubaki 530 XO, and I get about 20,000 miles out of a chain. Re: the stock shocks, they might be Ohlins, but I couldn't find anyone willing to rebuild my stock rear shock when I blew a seal about 3 years ago. I now have (afermarket) Ohlins on both ends, and they are definitely not the same units as the stockers. Flame ON, List! Doug Wilson __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: GTS to FZR stuff
ECU mods , try http://www.vanaaken.com and follow these links. Contents page. Superchips conversions. Superchips for motorcycles. EXAUST. Removed my collector box down pipes 2 years ago ( including catalyser inside ) Replaced with down pipes/collector box from yamaha thunder ace . Cut thread lug off old box for sensor and rewelded to new one . Cut and rewelded outlet to muffler to line up correctly. Welded plate on where valve used to go on collector ( thunder ace ) Lined up at head ok . A lot less restrictive , more power , from 94bhp to 106 with filters ( KN ) Bike runs ok , slight loss of bottom end power. atb Nick T
RE: GTS's for sale
Bill, If I have offended you, I'm sorry. Unfortunately, now you have offended me. As for the sale of my machine, I've ridden all type of bikes, driven all type of cars and flown all types of aircraft. Will I miss the GTS, Duh Bigots? No, I never accused anyone... Why am I rude and snippy and others SA's h... Sell the encyclopedias, cause you know everything. P.S. FYI, I do my job when it needs to be done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Hey Cruz You makin noise like you gotta leave da list 'cause you sell'n yo' scoot. While we may question your sanity, we understand sometimes circumstances force your hand. You can hang around. making rude comments, sniping at the SA's even if you don't own a GTS. We're not that bigotted, we'll let you stay as a former owner. (long as you promise not to ticket any GTS owners you stop). Bill -Original Message- From: K9KIKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: GTS's for sale Brandon, Thanks for asking. Please utilize my e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "CruzinTrooper" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brandon Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Gil Hillman and [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You want that I should list these bikes on the GTS site? Affirmative replies require either email contacts and/or phone #'s. I'll also take a pic or two if desired. Brandon
Re: GTS to FZR stuff
In a message dated 9/20/2000 9:40:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: www.superchips.co.uk Sounds very interesting Charlie. I hope they come thru with one. Bob
