Re: Superliner or Tub'o'Guts?
Byron, thanks for the vote of confidence on my perceived notion of being a touring expert. Touring expert - not at all - knowledge of touring - yes. Unfortunately, I do not have any experience with the bike, nor do any of my friends. Personally, if it is a real boat - it's not for me. What would make it attractive to me is the fact that I like things that others don't have, example the GTS. Yes six cylinders have always intrigued me as well. Having said that, I would rather have a CBX. I can't tell you to forget it because I really know nothing about the bike. If it is in good shape, mechanically and aesthetically, it could be a good bike to own. Being an '89 and not many sold, I would be worried about parts. Go have a look at the bike and see what you think it needs to suit you. Then go to the local bike shop and see if the parts are available and how long they will take to get and at what cost. When I say this, make a list of what it needs and wish list of what you would like to do to it. That will likely be the deciding factor. Sorry I couldn't help more. Tell us how you made out. Grant Gall Byron_Black wrote: Hey Grant, can I ask you an off-the-wall question, as you seem to be something of a touring expert and I ain't gotta clue? Somebody is trying to unload an '89 Kowalski 6-cylinder tourer here in Jakarta. Probably get it for a pretty good price. It looks like a real boat anchor but ANY six has its own natural appeal. What is the reputation of this particular mount? I note that Kaw didn't sell it that many years but that means little of course (think of the GTS and other magnificent failures in the American market). Just like a little inside info. Should I forget it? BB '86 RG500 "Popcorn Popper" '87 RG400 "Pitbull with rabies" '89 TZR250 RC "Bollocks Roaster" '96 TZR250 SP "It won't hurt, did it?" '93 ZXR750 RR "The Duesenberg" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:24 PM Subject: Re: started again (was RE: Intermot) I am no expert on this (mostly because I am not a 'Wing fan) but the Goldbarge with it's new design, or at least new make-up on the fairing, should continue to get the market share of the touring class sales. In my opinion, the Goldwing is way to outdated, but that may be said for it's riders too! Ouch, I felt that one! Come on Honda, let's see something new in this class! And yes, I will still ride my '86 outdated Venture. My .02. S/A #10 Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: Joe you're going to get Phil started again... What? Moi?? Again You must be thinking of another Phil:) Lots of very good bikes never make it to the US and they don't have to "prove" themselves in Europe first, I hope the FJR does, but it won't happen this year. What comes to the US is what the manufacturer's think they can sell out. Actually, the U.S. has gotten way too far into the "Blockbuster" mentality when it comes to marketing. Things that make money, but not lots and lots and lots of money, get ignored. And those of us with quirky tastes (I do include myself here, BTW) lose out. Even the Honda web page doesn't have the ST listed as a model for 2001, Jay what's up with that???is the X Wing really coming??? Bob B. (hoping sport tourer's do come to the US) Huh?? I'm not a fan of the ST (Jay and I have already discussed this one), but I can't believe Honda would drop it. They afraid it's dipping into Goldbarge sales? Phil
Re: Oil weight
Sorry to hear your bike may up for sale Louis. My wife has a great saying - if you own something outright and it's not costing anything to keep it, why sell it. Hence my Venture, and it's way to good a bike to sell anyway. Having said that, cash flow always comes into play. My .02 Grant Gall Louis Tweed wrote: Works for me. I use 10W30 or 15W40, I ride whenever I get a chance. Unfortunately not enough to warrant keeping the GTS right now. It may go up for sale soon. :( Louis "Henry S. Winokur" wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0004_01C02856.A153DC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What weight oil do you all use? I live in the DC area, where temperatures generally range from the low teens to the upper 90s. I generally don't ride when the temps are below 35. The next oil is going to be synthetic (let's not get into that argument for now), and it's going to be AMSOIL. In my Concours, I ran 10w40 AMSOIL 100% Synthetic and had no problems (maybe that's why I never had any cam chain tensioner problems). My inclination is to run the same thing in the GTS. Feedback please. Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD --=_NextPart_000_0004_01C02856.A153DC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD BODY DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT face=3DArialWhat weight oil = do you all=20 use?nbsp; I live in the DC area, where temperatures generally range = from the=20 low teens to the upper 90s.nbsp; I generally don't ride when the temps = are=20 below 35.nbsp; The next oil is going to be synthetic (let's not get = into that=20 argument for now), and it's going to be AMSOIL.nbsp; = /FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT = face=3DArial/FONT/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT face=3DArialIn my Concours, = I ran 10w40=20 AMSOILnbsp;100% Syntheticnbsp;and had no problems (maybe that's why I = never=20 had any cam chain tensioner problems).nbsp; My inclination is to run = the same=20 thing in the GTS./FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT = face=3DArial/FONT/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT face=3DArialFeedback=20 please./FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000FONT = face=3DArial/FONT/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D900403611-27092000 DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2 DIVFONT face=3DArialRegards,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArialHenry S. Winokur/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD//FONTFONT = face=3DArialMSF=20 Certified Instructor/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArialWest Bethesda,=20 MD/FONT/DIV/FONT/DIV/SPAN/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0004_01C02856.A153DC20--
Re: Oil weight (FLUFF)
Good one Fred, I had a chuckle over that one! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/28/00 3:18:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to hear your bike may up for sale Louis. My wife has a great saying - if you own something outright and it's not costing anything to keep it, why sell it. I guess that explains why she's still married to you. ; ) Fred
Re: Goldbarge
Well, I sort of do too. My Venture has not been on the road for three years now, why you ask, because the GTS is so much fun and I haven't done any long distance tours either. Grant Gall Louis Tweed wrote: Nope. I have a GTS for everything I do on the street. I believe Kevin Hawkins would classify as a GTS tourer. :) Louis Am I the ONLY person on this list who has the GTS for his touring bike??? :) Phil
Re: AW: Gas milage (was GTS to FZR stuff)
Joerg, come on now. Do you really think the Americans will ever change to metric? Not ^#@) likely. It just seems that they can't get a grip on a simpler measuring system. Case in point is that they are only now and slowly at that, changing to a dollars and cents way of reporting stock prices, instead of using 1/8's. Sometimes I believe the only metric they know is what size of the carbs on their bikes are. And yes I know the GTS is injected. Oh I forgot, they understand tire sizes too. You may know the saying that when you point you finger at someone, three are pointing back at you. I have to admit, even though Canada is metric a 2 x 4 is still a 2 x 4. We still build with the imperial system. OK all you people south of the Canadian border, the teflon suit is on! My .02. S/A #10 Grant Gall jalschwe wrote: I thought you had 16 fluid ounce pints, therefore 1 gallon = 16 x 8 = 128 fl. oz., and we had 20 fluid ounce pints, therefore 1 gallon = 20 x 8 = 160 fl. oz. Therefore, if I used U.S. gallons, I'd be getting 36 on the open road and 24.8mpg round town! At about $4.70 per U.S. gallon, if my theory of the 16oz pint is correct :-( Could you please do the rest of the world a small favour ? Please use literes and meters for measurements. I am totally glad that you stay to amps volts for a while. Joerg, Bavarian Where a "Mass" is a "Mass", and at Oktoberfest 0,64 literes.
Re: started again (was RE: Intermot)
I am no expert on this (mostly because I am not a 'Wing fan) but the Goldbarge with it's new design, or at least new make-up on the fairing, should continue to get the market share of the touring class sales. In my opinion, the Goldwing is way to outdated, but that may be said for it's riders too! Ouch, I felt that one! Come on Honda, let's see something new in this class! And yes, I will still ride my '86 outdated Venture. My .02. S/A #10 Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: Joe you're going to get Phil started again... What? Moi?? Again You must be thinking of another Phil:) Lots of very good bikes never make it to the US and they don't have to "prove" themselves in Europe first, I hope the FJR does, but it won't happen this year. What comes to the US is what the manufacturer's think they can sell out. Actually, the U.S. has gotten way too far into the "Blockbuster" mentality when it comes to marketing. Things that make money, but not lots and lots and lots of money, get ignored. And those of us with quirky tastes (I do include myself here, BTW) lose out. Even the Honda web page doesn't have the ST listed as a model for 2001, Jay what's up with that???is the X Wing really coming??? Bob B. (hoping sport tourer's do come to the US) Huh?? I'm not a fan of the ST (Jay and I have already discussed this one), but I can't believe Honda would drop it. They afraid it's dipping into Goldbarge sales? Phil
Re: Fluffy metrics
Hey, I thought Amurkin was spelled Merika! S/A #10 Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, come on now. Do you really think the Americans will ever change to metric? Not ^#@) likely. No way!!! Inches are SO superior!! :) Sometimes I believe the only metric they know is what size of the carbs on their bikes are. And yes I know the GTS is injected. Oh I forgot, they understand tire sizes too. Yep. Carbs are an inch and a half. Tires are 17 inches. :) HD handlebars are an inch. My .02. Two cents??? You mean like decimal money??? Not 4 pounds three pence??? The Amurkin SA striking back, Phil
Re: Metric was:Gas milage (was GTS to FZR stuff)
Darren, your points are well taken. Having said that, Canada was in a flap when the the discussion came up about changing from imperial to metric, however we went for it. One day the signs were in miles and not quite overnight the signs were changed to metric. I was old enough to understand imperial and metric was all new. I guess I was at the right age to learn the new system before the mind was cluttered or limited. Now when speaking of distance, I think I use metric more, but miles still come into play. After all, we still drag race 1/4 mile! And as for the nomex or asbestos, I have been burnt before, I was not wanting the shit to stick! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant you might want something a little more heat resistant than teflon like nomex or asbestos. But for the most part your probably right we tried to convert to metric years ago. I remember even seeing the speed limit signs posted kph and mph. A rapid transition even when pushed by the goverment was not the answer to standardization. Although I have very few tools in my box these days that are inch measured I still have a basic set and well at least my torque wrench reads both ft lbs and I guess it newton meters ? I still use gallons to measure fluids and have to figure out liters as being a little more than a quart lets see 25liters divided by 4 a little over 6 gallons probably about 6.4 I figure. A mind is a terrible thing to waste but sometimes its almost an impossible thing to change. My simple one just doesn't understand metric very easily but growing up around american english measurements its easy for me to comprehend things like I know if have to get off the freeeway in a quarter of a mile I'd better get over to the right lane but how many km's I wouldn't know and would probably drive by and have to make another go around. Nope with my simple mind its probably best that I keep my driving limited to the USA I would most likely be a hazard to anyone overseas besides who knows what side of the road you should be on anyway talk about standards ! Its not so much a matter of a simpler system but more a matter of what your accustomed to using. I have been slowly gaining more metric experence but its easier for me to think in terms of english measurement where most of my experience has been.
FLUFF Americans against Metric
Had a little hot air to release did ya Jon? Glad you did it in your own back yard, no need to spoil the air around here! American English eh Just don't forget metric is all around you - like it or not. Grant Gall
Re: Goldbarge
Stephen, the new Goldwing looks OK, but I will make the real decision when I see one. I like the look of the frame instead of plastic and the single sided swing arm sounds cool too. I also like the explanation of GWRRA, quite funny! Only one thing though, please tell me you didn't pick yellow. It doesn't do the bike much justice in the pics. Grant Gall
Re: FLUFF Americans against Metric
Just so I don't piss off hawke, I wrote a whole new e-mail. Very well done Kevin, mucho applause and laughs. S/A #10 Grant Gall
Re: Chain maintenance from someone who should know
Hey Robert, can you tell us what you are talking about. Sounds like alphabet soup to me. Grant Gall Robert Wilson wrote: Chains, from a world leader Regina http://www.regina.it/oldregin/products/choose.htm I store my chain lube in my tank top holder so it's really warm as well as the chain. Be afraid, be very afraid, K.Hawkins will soon have the NTSC copy of the original PAL GTS promo video from Y.Europe. It will soon appear on the net in .mpeg form. You've been warned. Robert Wilson
Re: GTS's for sale
Well nowthat K9KIKO really does growl! S/A #10 Grant Gall K9KIKO wrote: Bill, If I have offended you, I'm sorry. Unfortunately, now you have offended me. As for the sale of my machine, I've ridden all type of bikes, driven all type of cars and flown all types of aircraft. Will I miss the GTS, Duh Bigots? No, I never accused anyone... Why am I rude and snippy and others SA's h... Sell the encyclopedias, cause you know everything. P.S. FYI, I do my job when it needs to be done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Hey Cruz You makin noise like you gotta leave da list 'cause you sell'n yo' scoot. While we may question your sanity, we understand sometimes circumstances force your hand. You can hang around. making rude comments, sniping at the SA's even if you don't own a GTS. We're not that bigotted, we'll let you stay as a former owner. (long as you promise not to ticket any GTS owners you stop). Bill -Original Message- From: K9KIKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: GTS's for sale Brandon, Thanks for asking. Please utilize my e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "CruzinTrooper" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brandon Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Gil Hillman and [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You want that I should list these bikes on the GTS site? Affirmative replies require either email contacts and/or phone #'s. I'll also take a pic or two if desired. Brandon
Re: GTS to FZR stuff
I can't hold my breath much longer s.what were the results for the 929RR? Grant Gall Burton, Bob wrote: snip Kevin wrote: Nobody's ever put at GTS on the dyno before large snip Actually Tony Grafals did dyno a GTS stock, with KN's and with the KN's along with a VH pipe. I still have the charts if someone is interested or I can send it to Brandon to put on the web site. Bob B. ps BTW while at Deal's Gap this past weekend they had a portable dyno at the store. While we were there they dyno tested a 929RR.
Re: Cracked Plastic?, Chain and sprockets?
You know, I have been quiet for a long time about the ScottOiler topic. I have to say that there is one thing you can't say about the ScottOiler and that is how good it looks. That is one ugly piece of art work in my honest opinion. Sorry Henry. My .02 Grant Gall Henry S. Winokur wrote: cracks in any body panels. As for chain and sprockets I don't know what's best. Some like to stay OEM and others are going for smaller chains and have to change both sprockets. I hope that I to can get enough info because I think I will need to next year with the miles that the bike will have by then. Can you say "ScottOiler"? This is the best solution for: 1. keeping the chain oiled, EVEN WHEN YOU FORGET TO DO IT and 2. keeping your money in your pocket for other things than new sprockets and chain. I realize that I'll have to change the chain eventually, but if using the ScottOiler can prevent it for awhile longer, or in some case a GREAT while longer for about $150 and a couple of hours to install it, then that is the way to go. I can't say enough good things about this device. Suffice it to say: it works, and my chain is always lubed! Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Re: SEATBELTS
Phil, I saw your message. That is why we are on this topic now. Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, K9KIKO wrote: I have seen some horrible positions the human body takes upon impact with the ground, wall, or other motor vehicle. Like many on this list, I wear a seatbelt when driving that other mode of transportation, AKA "The Car". This morning, snip here My point Remind them to buckle up! Yesterday, I posted something to the list very relevant to this topic, but it appears to never have come through. May be just as well though. But yes, seatbelts are the "gear" that will keep you in the car, which, in a cage wreck, is a good place to stay. So.Mr Weaver, did ya censor me yesterday :) Phil
Re: FJ1300 and our Ill fated GTS1000
Hey...don't forget the paper clip and bubble gum!!! S/A #10 Grant Gall Dave Evans wrote: Guys, This may be old hat too some but I just got the latest edition of MCN, which has a double page feature on the new FJ1300. It would appear that Yamaha have given us shaft drive and an electric adjustable wind screen, but not hub center steering. What is interesting however is the following, and I quote.. "The FJR's alloy frame harks back to the revolutionary design of the Yamaha GTS1000 sports tourer, which boasted high tech innovations like hub center steering but failed to catch on in the mid 90's. The GTS's OMEGA frame, cradled the engine at the bottom, with separate front and rear sub-frames to support to clock assembly and seat." Blah Blah . .."Unlike the ill-fated GTS the FJR1300 has conventional suspension"Blah Blah Blah Now, all I need to find is a rear shunted GTS and a new FJR1300 that been smashed at the front a few rolls of duck tape, 2 coat hangers a spot welder, some self tapping screws and I could have my dream bike! Has any one actually attempted to put shaft drive on a GTS? Its nice to know that I'm riding an "ill fated bike", sounds kinda like she'll sink after striking a large pothole at speed, on her maiden voyage. Regards David
Re: Requests...wtb
I thought I read a little while ago that someone had these items for sale on the list, no? Grant Gall Brandon wrote: One of my fellow GTS pals would like to buy the Yamaha factory motorcycle bra set. As we all know, they don't make 'em anymore. (How 'bout you Euros', got any??) If anyone is considering 'retiring' theirs, please contact me off-list. (Notice how I said, "motorcycle" before "bra". The SA's have been very diligent as of late! :^) ) Brandon
Re: Wanted 1994 Brochure
Shawn, I think Christopher Caputo had one of these on the list a while ago for sale. You may want to contact him. Or, hello Chris.. Grant Gall SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Hey gang I'm adding to my GTS collection, interested in anyone that might have a mint 94 brochure. I have 93's interest in a trade or purchase. Please contact of list Shawn Pearsall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FLUFF - Driver/Rider Education (was gear)
Phil, I have seen pretty much the same thing. Only it was a Mom with three kids. Two kids flew out, one died and so did the Mom. I still don't remember, taking my helmet off and jacket off running to the scene. No one is ever completely safe. But some people try to do the right thing by protecting themselves, others well Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I was maintaining my silence, until I read Shawn's comment from Monday. I'll keep it short, and minimize the unpleasantries.but feel free to hit the delete key now. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Have fun...ride safely guys and galsout of towners this weekend had a spill here...slid 170 feet into a guardraildidn't walk away...but are alive (specifically due to helmets and riding suits) passenger has broken leg, arm and collar bone (hit guard rail, shattering the side of her helmet) I went to Albuquerque this weekend, drove truck (not GTS), and had a good weekend, until the drive home. Just south of Socorro NM on Interstate 25 a Mazda MX3 in front of me lost control, went (eventually) off the right side, through a fence, and when it hit the rise to the frontage road, went into endo. The three occupants had seatbelts off, and became "motorcyclists without the benefit of helmets and protective gear". As an MSF instructor, I'm required to stay current on CPR and first aid, and try to keep track of trauma issues. Had to stop. The injuries were as expected for gearless riders. One woman was dead before I stopped the truck--massive head injuries. The guy had by all appearances a broken back. The other woman had severe road rash, was going into shock in a major way, and concerned me for internal injuries. The tatoo on her right calf is not going to be the same. Sorry. This kind of thing leaves you feeling pretty helpless. In this case seatbelts would have saved the three of them. In the case of a rider, folks, at 75 mph, the only thing that's gonna save your ass is what you're wearing. Chiming out, Phil
Re: FLUFF co-adjustment
Geeesh, what ever happened to leaded gas, carburettors, solenoids and points! You know, the simple stuff. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/24/00 8:33:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know how to adjust the exhaust-co-value? Does the adjustment infuence the whole revolution span or only near idle-speed? CO or Carbon Monoxide, is the by product of combustion in the cylinder. HC is the raw or unburned gasses passing through the cylinder. CO is adjusted by the four "pots" that are on the rear facing side of the ECU, which is under the seat atop the battery. CO is the only adjustment you can make. HC, C02 and 02 are indicators as to the condition and or design of the rest of the engine. There is a direct correlation between CO and HC. Generally, you would want to adjust the CO to obtain the lowest HC. This would indicate you are burning the highest percentage of fuel available. HC can show HI if the engine is running too rich or too lean. This would be determined by the % of CO. If CO is really low, and HC is hi, the cylinder is in a lean misfire condition. This means there is literally not enough gas in the fuel mixture (gas/air) to complete combustion. Ideal air to gas ratio is 14.7 to 1. On the reverse side of this, if the CO is too high, you are pouring more raw gas into the cylinder than it can process, and again dumping raw gas out the exhaust, as shown by hi HC. This reading on and Exhaust Gas Analyzer would show HI CO and HI HC. HI CO being somewhere around maybe 8% and up. RSRBOB
Re: FLUFF winter gear
Jay everything I have said has been pretty much tongue-in-cheek, I hope you took it that way. (Actually, I thought the AMERICAN comment would have started something kinda fun) I lived in Vancouver for 41/2 years. I left there in 1998. Riding there is not a lot of fun until you get an hour or so away from the metropolitan area. Beautiful - definitely, crowded - definitely, expensive - definitely. Believe it or not Canada actually has three deserts. One in the Okanagan area of British Columbia, about 31/2 hours from Vancouver, one at Carcross in the Yukon and one near Carberry in Manitoba. And yes they all get covered in snow. As for toys. What I meant was so many more toys for more seasons. I was not making a comparison to the USA. As for "lot in life", I believe a person makes their lot in life with what he has, where he has it and who he has it with. My lot in life is just fine thank you! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny Grant, I'm writing this from Canada. Vancouver. Beautiful here. Wish I had my bike. California has four seasons. With the beach and mountains it's often easy to see two or three of them in one day. As for many toys, I'm better California leads that one too. Big Time. And as for crowds, ever see our deserts? Makes Alberta seems over-populated. But feel free to stay where you are. Enjoy it. Just don't complain about your lot in life when I'm enjoying my 12-month riding season. In a message dated 8/29/00 11:36:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, who wants to live in an over crowded state that has as many people in it, as all of Canada. I like four seasons. So many more toys! And then there is that thing about having to be like or become an AMERICAN! I will stay in the great open country of Canada.even if we taxed to death.
Re: FLUFF winter gear
No thanks for a number of reasons. First, who wants to live in an over crowded state that has as many people in it, as all of Canada. I like four seasons. So many more toys! And then there is that thing about having to be like or become an AMERICAN! I will stay in the great open country of Canada.even if we taxed to death. Ok, start slinging the mud. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why whine? Just move to California. That's what I did a year after discovering motorcycling oh those many years ago. In a message dated 8/28/00 11:32:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now quit whining about how cold it gets where you are!
Re: FLUFF winter gear
You guys in the warmer climates kill me. You are talking about winter gear and what to use. Poor guys! Hellothis is Canada calling! ;^) Winter gear goes like this: Mid October - make mental note to put bike away in 2 - 3 weeks. At same time, make mental note to go somewhere warm this winter. Toque Gloves Scarf Boots Winter coat/Snowmobile suit Long Underwear Forget the plug-in clothes, heated hand grips, heated everything else - those are for the spring and fall. One exception is not to forget to plug in the car. Yes, I said plug in the car. Start fire in fireplace, an ounce or two of your favourite brandy, warm blanket, get some videos, turn on TV and hibernate. Oh yeah, one last thing. Snow shovel and/or snow blower is highly recommended, snow tires, ice scraper, skis etc. Now quit whining about how cold it gets where you are! My .02 ;^) Grant Gall Calgary - for five months of the year is better know as the frozen north. But hey, we love it here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, my vote for winter gear goes like this. Gerbing jacket, not vest. Keeps torso warm, which allows the blood to still get pumped to feet and hands, and keeps them warm without electric socks or gloves. BMW boots, very water tight, very comfortable for walking, and yep, BMW-pricey. I also have BMW winter gloves. Not great, very warm but not good for feeling the controls, too bulky. I use summer gloves with silk liners (get 'em at a ski shop) for warmth unless it gets really cold, which is not that common in New Mexico. Sorry Mike, I just use a toggle switch which is within easy reach, and switch it back and forth as I feel the need. I know, I know, the controllers are greatetc.heard it all before, guess I just go with the lo-tech solution. Works for me. My main point? Get the Gerbing gear, you'll love it. Phil
Re: FLUFF GTS owners card.
Now Henry, you KNOW the blue colour you recommend is going to start a huge thread! ;^) My vote is RED! S/A #10 Grant Gall Henry S. Winokur wrote: Couple of corrections on the card: #1. The photo needs to be Blue. #2. The weight according to my service manual is 615# for the 49 state bike and 617 for the CA model. Otherwise it looks cool. Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Re: A number of things
John sorry to hear of your Canadian Highway experience. But I half to let you know that if you are going to travel in Canada, you gotta speak like a Canadian EH! It's eh not aye! And as for the Canadian Department of Highways, your story seems to have been a bit of an anomaly. We usually sign our roads pretty well here - I think. Road construction or not. I could tell you of similar stories while travelling in the States. Grant Gall Calgary, Alberta Canada Eh! John Laurenson wrote: The GTS is a great Long Distance machine...I left last Thurs and just got this afternoon after riding in a Rally in Canada and putting just short of 5,000 miles on my 84' GTS. #1.I installed Helibars before I left but I didn't have a chance to get time on them before leaving...they suck.I have used Helibars on the FJ which worked great, but these a a disaster. They didn't work for me at all. My hands have lost all their strength from the nerve damage they have done. My little finger have no sense of feel. The angle is just all wrong...at least for me. I can not grip them in the normal manner without causing pain in my wrist. The angle is too steep so I ended up gripping them so they put pressure on the carpal tunnel nerve center. i'll be on the phone tomorrow to see if the owner of Helibar can solve the problem...I understand he is a good guy to work with. Bob Taylors recent fix is more like the original Helibars I bought for the FJ..it worked wellthese present Helibars are dangerous in my opinion. I hope my sense of feel and strength full recovers. Bob...what would you charge to do my bars? #2. Bad news.I had a wreck with my new GTS. After finishing a bunch of great mods too. Following is my repost off the LDR list. ...also Anyone on the list have any blue plastic for sale.? Where is the best place to buy? Definitely my right lower, probably the main front panel, and possibly the lower plastic under the engine. The exposed aluminum frame member on the right is pretty torn up. A new exhaust can is in order. Any comments or help is appreciated. _ Those evil Canadians invite us Foreigners to their country knowing full well that the odds of us getting off their highway system unscathed are slim. I now know it was all a plan by Bobb, hoping to get one of there own free of the crash title. The highway departments in the US clean up somewhat and mark dangerous obstacles to some degree, but not in Canada.AYE. Never happenAYE Highway work sites look like garbage dumps.:)AYE I think the whole Highway department work force consists of six high school drop outs...AYE That's all I ever saw workingAYE Here are the facts.. Yeah...I took a dump on my GTS. But at least let's get the story straight...AYE I won't accept the full blameit was caused by the stupid Canadian half wit disorganized highway dept. 10 % of the highway system up there has been ground down with those large asphalt grinders that cut deep parallel groves about 2 inches deep so they an resurface.someday. The work sites around the rebuild areas all like a bunch high school drops outs were given the job, not very organized or neat.AYE dennis k and I had been running on these torn up sections the whole rally, keeping our speed down because the deep grooves alone would throw the bike around. After dennis and I ran for most of the day on sections of highway that would put the curves on a Diamond Rattle snake, ready to strikes, curves to shame. At 5 AM in Sue Saint Marie on a 1/2 mile detour connecting section of Highway 17, the Cross Canada highway; dennis k and I were slowly and carefully riding one of these torn up detours that haven no warning signs or barriers of any kind...just junk scattered around...AYE. The highway was 6 lanes wide at that point and it took a 90 degree turn. No other traffic. The road was all cut down and deeply grooved, so we weren't doing much over 40 mph. The road was dark and gravel and trash was scattered all over. I was in the center lane and was slowly moving toward the right hand lane to make the 90 degree turn. As I looked up I saw dennis was just making the turn a 100 yards ahead. I slowly slide over to the right hand lane, I immediately found myself on my back with the bike sliding out in front of me...AYE No warning or headshake, just immediately on my assAYE The bike slid for 50 yards and I slid about half of the distance behind it, like one of these racers on my back; periodically getting glimpses of the bike as I rotated on my back and hearing the awful grinding on on the coarse cut asphalt from my bike sliding ahead and my stich under meAYE When Dennis came back we picked up the pieces and then we walked it off trying to figure out what happened. The f#*ken highway
Re: Hi/Lo Bars
I also like the stock set up. I am 6' and find the reach quite comfortable. I will admit that when I first purchased the bike, it was somewhat uncomfortable. I will also admit, that since the addition of the Corbin seat, it's all that much more comfortable now. Grant Gall
Re: GTS Rally in 2001
OK, if we decide to come to Banff/Jasper I will volunteer to be the Tour Captain for the cruise. Jason would likely help out as well. I have ridden most of the roads around here and can keep everyone off the slab. And yes Easter is WAY to early in the season to be thinking off a Banff/Jasper run. Spring skiing is barely over - if at all by that time. If you want really good weather, your best bet is July/August. We can still get snow in August around here, but it doesn't stay. Right now we are having a heat wave of 28 - 35 C. For those of you down south bring the long underwear because that is only 85 - 95 F. Yes the country is beautiful, so come and spend some of those American dollars! Grant Gall Douglass McIntosh wrote: Looking at a map of the US, it IS hard to find somewhere to meet. As Joe pointed out, the real heart of the US if a big, big field. Not much fun riding around. As far as I can tell, I think Colorado would be a good bet. Ok, so the East coasters would have further to go than the West Coasters, but does anyone else have any ideas? Believe me, I think meeting at Deal's Gap would be fabulous, but then that's WAY east. Or, let's just hit the pavement and Ride to Glacier National Park in Montana or maybe Banff National Park in Alberta. Anyone ever been to Jasper? Rode through there last year - unbelievably gorgeous country. If we meet in Canada, then probably all of us would have a healthy ride. About 5,000 miles roundtrip, myself. But, please, not around Easter. Doug McIntosh 1993 Yamaha GTS 1000A 1985 Honda Magna V65 "Bonecrusher" Austin, Texas, USA Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: GTS Rally in 2001
They don't bite at all at 60+ miles an hour! S/A#10 Grant Gall Michael Weaver wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, if we decide to come to Banff/Jasper I will volunteer to be the Tour Captain for the cruise. Jason would likely help out as well. I have ridden most of the roads around here and can keep everyone off the slab. Sounds interesting. And yes Easter is WAY to early in the season to be thinking off a Banff/Jasper run. Spring skiing is barely over - if at all by that time. If you want really good weather, your best bet is July/August. We can still get snow in August around here, but it doesn't stay. Right now we are having a heat wave of 28 - 35 C. For those of you down south bring the long underwear because that is only 85 - 95 F. A balmy spring day, that is. As for the date, midsummer is better for me as well, since I have school-aged children. How do these dates corelate to biting flys/mosquitos? Take care, Mike -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6468 [EMAIL PROTECTED] UCNS Network Specialist LAN Support Group University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html
Re: does size matter ? (tires)
Jay...and just how does the BT020 fit your rear anyway? S/A #10 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/21/00 1:14:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but I thought that BT57's now became BT010's and BT56's became BT020's? I just put a BT020 on my rear after the Azarro went a measely 3,600 miles. (I do ride a lot of two-up at speed, but still, I'm dissatisfied with that distance.) The 020 is higher mileage thant he 010 which, at this point, I figure I need. I spend too much on tires for the number of miles I put on this bike. (I haven't quite got a different brand on each bike yet, but I'm almost there) Jay is not a brand loyalist.
Re: Gallons to Gallons
Hugh, I believe the S/A rating came from Kurt Fackler (?) when he was on the list, at least I think he was S/A#1. S/A#2 should probably handle that duty for you. Hello S/A#2. S/A#10 Grant Hugh Hamilton wrote: 1 Imperial Gallon (British)= 1.20095 US Gallons 1 US Gallon = .83267 Imperial Gallons Hugh (Still awaiting his SA rating from the SA wizard) On 21 Jul 2000, at 0:19, Robin Gammon wrote: Hey guys - what a knowledge base you are! The only thing missing from this lot of info is the conversion from US:UK Gallons!! Thanks for your help. John - fule might be expensive but this solar powered GTS might seriously cut riding time in the UK - about 3 days sun per year?! Robin Gammon
Re: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons)
My appologies, just goes to show youhow much of a newbie I am! S/A#10 only lurking for a couple of years or so. Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant, seems like Shawn was SA#1 before Kurt was even on the list--as I recall. Maybe we need an official registry, kinda like brides get at Nieman Markup or something like that. :) Phil On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugh, I believe the S/A rating came from Kurt Fackler (?) when he was on the list, at least I think he was S/A#1. S/A#2 should probably handle that duty for you. Hello S/A#2.
Re: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons)
Aw %#@^ why didn't I think of that! S/A#10 Grant Gall Crisler, Jon wrote: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFF337.C8D28E3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want SA #69 -Original Message- From: Kevin Hawkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:31 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons) I get absolutely no respect. I'M DA' MAN I'M SA#1!! Shawn gave me this dubious distinction many months ago then claimed #2 for himself. I believe someone else chose #10 in the meantime. Pick a number any number, or we could simply make Shawn the "Keeper of the SA#" Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons) Grant, seems like Shawn was SA#1 before Kurt was even on the list--as I recall. Maybe we need an official registry, kinda like brides get at Nieman Markup or something like that. :) Phil On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugh, I believe the S/A rating came from Kurt Fackler (?) when he was on the list, at least I think he was S/A#1. S/A#2 should probably handle that duty for you. Hello S/A#2. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFF337.C8D28E3A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons)/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2I want SA #69 /FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: Kevin Hawkins [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:Kevin.Hawkins= @novatech-sciences.com/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:31 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: RE: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to = Gallons)/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2I get absolutely no respect. I'M DA' MAN I'M = SA#1!! Shawn gave me this/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2dubious distinction many months ago then claimed #2 = for himself. I believe/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2someone else chose #10 in the meantime. Pick a = number any number, or we/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2could simply make Shawn the quot;Keeper of the = SA#quot;/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2A HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons)/FONT /P BR BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Grant, seems like Shawn was SA#1 before Kurt was even = on the list--as I/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2recall./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Maybe we need an official registry, kinda like brides = get at Nieman Markup/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2or something like = that.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; :)/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Phil/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Hugh, I believe the S/A rating came from Kurt = Fackler (?) when he was on/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; the list, at least I think he was S/A#1./FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; S/A#2 should probably handle that duty for = you.nbsp; Hello S/A#2./FONT /P /BODY /HTML --_=_NextPart_001_01BFF337.C8D28E3A--
Re: newbie to list and bike covers
Congrats on your new purchase Doug and welcome to the list. You will find we are friendly bunch, but you will have to wait and earn your S/A#. That being Smart Ass #. As for the cover, I purchased a generic cover, but I did go out to the garage for some info. Mine is manufactured by Dow Canvas 4230 Clipper Drive Manitowac, Wisconsin 54220. Ph# 1-800-558-7755. The tag say's it's a Number 125 Touring/Full Dress. I have the same brand cover for my Venture as well, albeit a different size. And no neither of them are canvas, it is made of some kind of nylon (?). I have seen these covers at most bike shops I have visited. Grant Gall S/A#10 - just so you know! Douglass McIntosh wrote: Greetings everyone. My name is Doug McIntosh and I am the proud, new owner of a 1993 GTS. I live in Austin, Texas, and I've been riding my old bike, a 1985 Honda Magna V65, all over the US and Canada over the last four years. It was this touring (and riding my friend's '92 FJ1200A through the mountains of Colorado)that made me realize I needed a different bike. So, here I am, and I must say I've never seen or ridden anything like our beloved GTS. So, I look forward to seeing what happens on the list as well as meeting some of you on my "weekend" rides.. So, with basic introductions out of the way, I pose a question to you all: Does anyone have any suggestions about makes and SIZES for a bike cover? I'm not sure what size might work best. Thanks and Cheers, Doug '93 GTS 1000A '85 Magna V65 "Bonecrusher" Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: does size matter ?
Ah yes, but the freeway offramps...AWESOME!!! Grant Gall Lanouette, Richard wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugh Hamilton Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 1:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: does size matter ? After using a set of Battleaxe's I quickly found out why all the locals here in south Florida call them Slipstones :) How would they know that ? Other than street corners, there's no curves in Florida ;-) Richard
Re: My GTS got hit !! #$%#!@
Talk to Tom at Pacific Yamaha Ph# 1-604-276-2552. I know him personally and it's where I bought my GTS. They know them very well there. Pacific Yamaha is in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Grant Gall Andy Perry wrote: I had good luck good prices with www.zanottimotor.com . They were a good bit lower than others on some of the body parts. The swingarm covers are most economical from Pacific Yamaha in Canada. I don't have that phone# or the PN's here at the office, but Kevin Hawkins does.
Re: Seriously demented!
Shawn, let me know when you are close, I may be around. On second thought, I am doing some business travel myself. From Calgary east to Regina during the week of July 24th. We may be able to meet along the way. Send me an e-mail (which I do not have on the road) or call me at cell# 1-403-605-1900 or home at 1-403-590-5639. Try my cell# first during the daytime. Grant SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: I've already logged over 4500 miles on my gts, rental cars and company car since June 27th and now I'm definitely going off the deep end. My wife is on severance from Kodak, the kids are off for the summer (soon to be 7 9) and I can work and travel simultaneously...so . Mid week this week, I'll pile the family into the Odyssey and head west across Canada...Parry Sound, Sudbury, Saulte St. Marie, Thunder Bay, Regina, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, Jasper, Banff, Calgary, Glacier National, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, BandLands, Mt Rushmore, Chicago (gotta see Sue...the T-Rex) then tow a piece of equipment home from Batavia, IL. to be home on August 4th! Over 6000 more miles (I'm friggin nuts folks!) Other than that I'm not doing much this month. Hope to see some of you in my travels. Robert Wilsondefinitely later this week (I'll know more tomorrow), Grant, etc Have fun, safe riding to all Shawn Pearsall Not your Good Buddy Type!
Re: OIL.... Henry's curiosity
Nuf said. Grant Gall John Laurenson wrote: RE: Henry's curiosity From: "Henry S. Winokur" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Motor Cycle Oils Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Synthetic oils are more slippery and they can cause clutches in some bikes to slip under heavy loads, it doesn't happen to all bikes and is somewhat rider dependent. If you don't have a clutch slippage problem using it...use it. It is a better protective oil under high loads and high temperatures. The comment that Mobil 1 20w-50w is not 20W-50W after 500 miles is correct. What is not said is that this is true of any motor oil. I'm curious how you know this stuff? Do you work for Mobil Oil? Henry, Being a mechanical engineer, lubricants have always been of interest. I both read a lot on the topic and use my own empirical testing to verify. No I don't work for Mobil, but I have spoken to various Mobil and other people in the field over the years. I find most of the industry people really know very little about MC oil and simply are more marketing oriented, often simply stating what they publish in marketing literature as being the only truth.I don't think they spend a lot of time or money testing for performance results in MC's The clutch slipping is both empirical and a frequent topic of discussion on other MC lists. I found it took a few thousand miles on the FJ for Mobil 1 alone to cause the clutch to slip, changing back to non- synthetic and it stopped slipping. I over came the problem by increasing the clutch spring load and sticking with the Mobil 1. Mobil 1 also stopped the FJ overheating problems in stop and go traffic. With conventional oil it would virtually start to stall out as the engine parts would expand and get close to seizing. With Mobil 1 this does not occur. Empirically it simply showed me it was a better lubricant at high temperatures and verifying other test reports. More slippery is based on the clutch slippage problem and also, it you hook up your bike to an electronic tuning tach and simply change one thing...the oil and restart the engine you will find an increase of over 100 RPM occurs at idle speeds. That again is only based what I have experienced. The logical conclusion I reach is that the change is from reduced friction. since laboratory tests show that Mobil 1 is more viscous, the increase RPM is not from a reduction in viscosity. Which also makes sense since synthetic oil has a higher film strength from it's longer molecular chains. What happens is that in all oils, they quickly loose some of the higher viscosity performance from engine heat and shear. What he did not say is that under numerous independent tests, Mobil1 stands up better and looses less performance characteristics than just about any commercial oil, including AMSOIL. Not according to Amsoil. Viscosity Index of Amsoil is 157 compared to Mobil's 170. Amsoil is probably a great MC oil and equal to Mobil 1 in many categories. I am not against using Amsoil in anyway. Mobil 1 is easy for me to buy since it is widely marketed. I've never tried Amsoil. From : http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm Motorcycle Consumer News Amsol was not run in this particular test but I have seen it run in other and it was not as good as Mobil 1 in holding it's viscosity. TAKEN FROM ABOVE ARTICLE.. Relative Viscosity Retention(as a percentage of initial viscosity retained after normal use in the same motorcycle) 0 miles 800mi 1500mi Mobil 1 100%86.6% 83.0% Castrol Syntec 100%78.1% 74.5% Castrol GTX 100%72.2% 68.0% Honda HP4 100%69.2% 65.6% Spectro 4 100% 68.0% 63.9% .The viscosity of synthetic-based oils generally drops more slowly than that of petroleum-based oils in the same application. 2.Comparing these figures to viscosity retention for the same oils when used in an automobile (see later text by Prof. Woolum) would indicate that motorcycles are indeed harder on oils than cars. 3.The fastest and most significant drop in the viscosity of petroleum-based oils used in motorcycles occurs during the first 800 miles (or less) of use.All of these results (1-3) agree with everything the oil companies have been telling us all along. However, the same test data also indicates that: 4.The viscosities of petroleum-based oils, whether designed for auto or motorcycle application, drop at approximately the same rate when used in a motorcycle. 5.There is no evidence that motorcycle-specific oils out-perform their automotive counterparts in viscosity retention when used in a motorcycle. One of the advantages I have always founds with Mobil 1 20-50w is that the transmission seems to like
Re: Good tickets (was Re: Laguna Seca Link)
NASCAR weenies eh Why I otta.. Don't forget there are two races on the schedule where they do turn RIGHT, Sears Point and Watkins Glen. However, I will agree that most of the best racing to be seen is not from the Grandstands. S/A #10 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon, It's been a few years since I was able to go to Laguna Seca (BMW pre-GTS days actually), but the good seats were at that time the general admission tickets. I don't know about you, but the last thing I want is to be stuck in one particular seat in a grandstand that can see (sort of) the start and finish. Walk around. Stand up near the corkscrew. Cross the bridge over turn 9 and watch from over there. Go up on the grassy hillside that gives you a view of the drop after turn 9 until past the start/finish, and a lot of other things like turn 4, etc. When the spirit moves you, go to a different point on the track. Road America, Laguna Seca.I've not been there but it seems true of Road Atlanta also...are tracks to WANDER, not to sit in a grandstand. Remember, grandstands are for NASCAR weenies!! (Oo, time for the Nomex, here it comes!!) Phil P.S. Has the rule changed at Laguna Seca to limit one's walking around? On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Brandon wrote: Great. All the good tickets are sold. Oh well, I probably couldn't have afforded them anyway. (OK, so I'm just cheap!) So, what are the general admission tickets like? (Like, where do get to sit? Can you see anything or just hear them go by? Shade? I haven't been in years and when I did go, my company was buying and we got all the good stuff. Seeing how I don't work there anymore, I might get to go, albeit 3rd class. :^P Brandon
Re: headlight cover
I got one of these when I bought my Tail Pack from them. It fits good and looks good too. A small price for a little insurance. Grant Gall Henry wrote: I'll past this on because sometime back someone else was looking for a plastic headlight cover. I would say for now this is a temporary Ventura makes headlight covers for all kinds of bikes. I think ours sells for $25.00 or less. check it out: http://www.ventura-bike.com/
Re: euro short screen et al.
Welcome to the list. So what year did you buy and where do you live? I have always thought that if the GTS ever had to leave my garage, I would likely replace it with a ZX-11. Grant Gall 93 GTS 1000 Bradley Jones wrote: Just got my GTS a month ago and love it. Have been riding a ZX-11 for 8 years and I do miss the smooth air of a shorter screen like the 11 had. So, count me in on acquiring some "Euro" screens from across the pond. Any help would be appreciated and I'll certainly pitch in to make this a worthwhile deal for the footwork involved. Thanks in advance.
Re: euro short screen et al.
I actually meant what year of GTS did you buy. There are some other GTSer's in your area as well. Grant Gall Warren Brown wrote: Thanks. I bought last month and I live in Phoenix - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:27 AM Subject: Re: euro short screen et al. Welcome to the list. So what year did you buy and where do you live? I have always thought that if the GTS ever had to leave my garage, I would likely replace it with a ZX-11. Grant Gall 93 GTS 1000 Bradley Jones wrote: Just got my GTS a month ago and love it. Have been riding a ZX-11 for 8 years and I do miss the smooth air of a shorter screen like the 11 had. So, count me in on acquiring some "Euro" screens from across the pond. Any help would be appreciated and I'll certainly pitch in to make this a worthwhile deal for the footwork involved. Thanks in advance.
Re: GTS Website development...
So like are ya gonna tell us the address.. S/A #10 Grant Brandon wrote: Ok folks. Now I've gone and done it. I expect to burn or pay hell for it, but I thought, why not. (do it.) So here it is. The 'semi-official GTS Website'. I've still got a lot of work to do on it, and quite frankly, could use a little help to boot. So don't be shy and proffer any and all opinions concerning its growth and development. I would like to make one brief, but very important note here. I am NOT claiming ownership or directorship of the site. I may have done the preliminary footwork of procuring the domain name, (I'm in the business), and set up the initial site, (again, the business..), but I want everyone on the list to know, It's OUR site. You tell me what you want or think that it needs, me do. (Although, it may not happen overnight! :^) ). We can take consensus votes for it via the list. But remember, it's not MY site. It's OURS. Totally. So, I have slipped on the asbestos suit and wait patiently for replies. I hope this is something we all wanted to have as a group. We can use it to further the process of an official club, "The GTS Touring Society" and maybe get a few discounts here and there. We can post events, gatherings, and scantily clad young laÂ….uh, better scratch that one. It will be a place to post the ABS issue so those NON-members of the list will have a chance to read about it and take action. Again, I am not trying to steal anyone's thunder here. Many of you have busted a hump to gather and disseminate information about our beloved bikes, and unless I hear otherwise, I will only offer a link to your website for the particular information that you have. BUT, you are free, and encouraged, to put it on this site, IF you want to. Unedited. Unabridged. Unplagiarized. So, many happy returns to all, I hope I have done 'a good thing'. If not, I'll whip it off, ASAP. Brandon (Oh boy, here it comesÂ…)
GTS Web Page
It looks great. Now if I only knew how to do that stuff I could help. Oh yeah, the links with the scantily clad la.better forget that one. But they are cool anyway! Grant
Re: GTS Web Page
Got it! But what I was really getting at was the technical stuff. As for the smartass stuff, I am listed as S/A #10, there are at least nine others waaay better at it than me! So I won't touch that one. Grant Welch, Garrett R wrote: Oh that is the easy part! and this is for everyone on this list! Step 1. Goto the FAQ Section and pick one item you feel you know quite a bit about. Step 2. Research the Heck out it. Step 3. Write about the topic in a clear and concise manner.(this is were I stink) Step 4. Submit it to Brandon (I am assuming now) for conversion to html Step 5. Enjoy a job well done and go riding. But could we NOT do the topic of "How to become a SA on the GTS mailing list?" =) -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: GTS Web Page It looks great. Now if I only knew how to do that stuff I could help. Grant
Re: Saddle rain cover
Christopher Caputo should have one. Grant Gall Richard Lanouette wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to know who offer me a rain cover a few weeks back. Since my corbin order will be ready AFTER I leave, I need one for next week. Thanks, Richard __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Neelin Ride Report
Great story Robert! I have ridden some of the same roads you have on your trip. Brings back some awesome memories. I am with you, why ride superslab when alternatives are always enticing! Grant Gall
Re: It's a whole new world.... (FLUFF)
He was probably protecting the dental work just done, due to the rocks in the teeth from earlier in the day with no helmet. Besides, he likely thought it was more embarrassing for him than it was amusing for you! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting morning for me. I was heading home from doing a leftover riding evaluation from this weekend's MSF new rider course, and found myself along side another rider. Chopped older Harley, full colors for "Banditos M/C New Mexico" (a real club, BTW, and pretty serious stuff), unmuffled fishtail pipes, you get the picture. Well most of the picture anyway. Add a full face helmet. Yow!! I like helmet use, but in an optional state this doesn't fit MY image of the Banditos. Phil
Re: service manual
Here, herewell said! Grant Gall Hugh Hamilton wrote: Considering the extremely small market for GTS service manuals, I hardly think it will kill Yamaha if the thing is posted on the web in .pdf format as the microfiche is for the benefit of the owner who needs to occasionally look at it. It not like its a Metallica song that has a market potential in the millions. Yeah yeah, I know, its the principle of the thing. To hell with principles, I say Acrobat the damn thing and quit whining like goody two shoes out to save the snail darter :) On 7 Jun 2000, at 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to hear the reminder that the manual (and microfiche) are copyrighted. AFAIK, the manual is still available from Yamaha (even if there's blah blah blah
Re: Toronto this weekend
No I won't be there, but if you are a hockey fan - Wayne Gretzky's Restaurant and the Hockey Hall Of Fame are a pretty cool places to visit. I'll steal a line from George P. Grant Gall trying to get those Americans fired up about hockey! Giuntoli, Steve wrote: I'll be travelling through Toronto this Saturday (spending the night). If any GTSers are interested in hooking up, let me know and we'll try to make it happen. Steve Confidential e-mail for addressee only
Re: ShadowLIne Windscreen For Sale
To get the stickers off try a hair dryer and credit card. You can also get a product from any pharmacy called Solvoplast. This is the stuff they use to take the plaster of your skin after you have had a cast removed. Works great. Grant Gall Henry wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_000A_01BFD07F.36EA1E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a ShadowLine (the one from Germany that Kevin Hawkins facilitated several purchases of last year) windscreen in solid black that I'm willing to part with. (It looks cool, but doesn't provide me--at 6'2"--with quite enough protection). It has some stickers on it (Ride For Kids, AMA Eagles MD Motorcycle Safety Program) which I'm not sure how to get off, so perhaps leaving them on is the smarter thing to do at this point. Best offer over $80 (+ postage) takes it. --=_NextPart_000_000A_01BFD07F.36EA1E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3017.1000" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD BODY DIVFONT face=3DArialSPAN class=3D610184416-07062000I have a = ShadowLine (the=20 one from Germany that Kevin Hawkins facilitated several purchases of = last year)=20 windscreen in solid black that I'm willing to part with.nbsp; (It looks = cool,=20 but doesn't provide me--at 6'2"--with quite enough protection).nbsp; It = has=20 some stickers on it (Ride For Kids, AMA Eagles amp; MD Motorcycle = Safety=20 Program) which I'm not sure how to get off, so perhaps leaving them on = is the=20 smarter thing to do at this point./SPAN/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArialSPAN = class=3D610184416-07062000/SPAN/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArialSPAN class=3D610184416-07062000Best offer over = $80 (+=20 postage) takes it./SPAN/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_000A_01BFD07F.36EA1E00--
Re: service manual
Does anyone really care if you copy a manual? I am positive that copying of complete or partial manuals goes on all the time. I am sure the motorcycle and auto makers have better things to do than chase a few guys who have shared a their manuals. My .02 Grant Gall Louis Tweed wrote: I have bought it. I also want a copy on my computer where I can easily cross reference. Since I have purchased the manual I think I have a certain right to make a .pdf file for my own use. Even though Greg and I have been working on getting the GTS manual on computer and in a .pdf file I don't believe we have ever said anything about distributing it. I don't have a problem distributing it to others who have purchased a Yamaha manual, that being said I am not doing the computer work on this, Greg is and if it costs him to put the file on a disk I have no problem selling the disk to recoup costs. I don't think anyone is trying to make a living on this. Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In your message dated: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:03:48 EDT, your pithy ruminations on RE: service manual were: = I want to remind us all that Yamaha's service manual is copywrited 1993. We = can't legally make copies of it, or even portions of it, without their prior = written permission. I suggest that we start with them and see if they'd be = willing to allow us to do it, though I would doubt it, since they'd no = longer be able to sell the book. On the other hand, perhaps they'd be = willing to create said PDF file and place it on a CD and sell THAT. = = Regards, = = Henry S. Winokur = 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor = West Bethesda, MD Thank you! It's nice to hear the reminder that the manual (and microfiche) are copyrighted. AFAIK, the manual is still available from Yamaha (even if there's some back order delay), and it's not too outrageously expensive. Instead of people endlessly discussing how to copy the thing, why not just buy it? Mark =
Re: Logo and Air Cleaner Question
Gee that's funny, tires are metric except for the rim size! ;^) My .02 Grant Gall Garrett Welch wrote: About 8" long and 1.5" in height. No metric, I refuse to convert to the rest of the world. =) Enjoy, Garrett Welch Happiness is the journey, not the destination. AMA#500406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 1730192 http://gtser.kendra.com - Original Message - From: "Kevin Harrington" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:30 PM Subject: Logo and Air Cleaner Question I have two questions Can someone who has the stock stickers give me a rough dimension on the GTS Logo? (Length/width) Is/has someone running KN's inside the stock airbox and can you tell me the size or stock number? Thanks a bunch you guys! Kev __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: Sudden buzz
A friend of mine has one of these for her bike. She has problems with her wrists and elbows and finds it works very well. It is not unsightly either. Grant Gall Gil Hillman wrote: I think the numb fingers problem is due to prolonged gripping of the throttle, rather than buzz. I use a wrist throttle, or whatever it's called -- it's a metal strip 2 inches wide that wraps once around the grip and protrudes a few inches toward you. You rest your wrist on it and can operate the throttle with the heel of your hand, while relaxing your fingers. Lets you move your hand around and keeps it from getting numb. I got it at a Honda place -- they sell them for Wings. Gil H.
Re: ignition switch
I have had to carry two keys since I got my bike. The reason, when it was a demo bike someone tried to drill out the ignition. They only way that I know of to have one key is to change all of the keyed items on the bike. The ignition, gas cap and seat lock. Grant Gall Loss, Joe wrote: ..Oh and roughly how much do they slug you for a new ignition switch? -Original Message- From: Loss, Joe Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ignition switch When you replace the ignition switch do you then have to carry 2 keys, new one for the ignition and old one for the seat or is there some way of using just the one key? Joe. -Original Message- From: Allan Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:06 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ignition switch Bob, I just used hex head bolts. I replaced mine because it was just plain worn out. Allan PS Use progressivly larger bits to drill out the old shear bolts.
Varsteel Quotation
Gord, this one is for Bernadette. Bernadette, can you provide price and delivery on the following. Reply by May 29/00 PM. 3 len - 1/8" x 1" x 1" 304SS Angle 3 len - 1/8" x 2" x 2" same 3 len - 3/16" x 2" x 2" same 3 len - 3/16" x 3" x 3" same 3 len - 1/4" x 3" x 3" same 3 len - 1/8" x 1" 304SS Flat Bar 3 len - 1/8" x 2" same 3 len - 1/8" x 3" same 3 len - 1/8" x 4" same 3 len - 3/16" x 1" same 3 len - 3/16" x 2" same 3 len - 3/16" x 3" same 3 len - 3/16" x 4" same 3 len - 1" x 1" x .065 304SS Square Tubing 3 len - 1" x 1" x .083 same 3 len - 2" x 2" x .065 same 3 len - 2" x 2" x .083 same 3 len - 21/2" x 21/2" x .065 same 3 len - 21/2" x 21/2" x .083 same 3 shts - 16 ga x 4' x 8' 304SS Sheet #4 or 3 shts - 16 ga x 4' x 10' 304SS Sheet #4 3 shts - 14 ga x 4' x 8' 304SS Sheet #4 or 3 shts - 14 ga x 4' x 10' 304SS Sheet #4 3 shts - 20 ga x 4' x 8' 304SS Sheet #4 or 3 shts - 20 ga x 4' x 10' 304SS Sheet #4 3 shts - 11 ga x 4' x 8' 304SS Sheet #2B or 3 shts - 11 ga x 4' x 10' 304SS Sheet #2B This looks like a stock list to me. They are asking we quote our best price as the quantities may vary, but they will not go less than 3 of each. Reply to; Varsteel 2900 - 5 Avenue North, Lethbridge, Alberta Ph# 1-403-329-0233 Fax# 1-403-327-0630 Attn: Dave Gallant Send me a copy as well. Thanks, Grant
I apologize
Sorry about the Varsteel stuff. You would think I would have the right e-mail address figured out by now. Sorry again, Grant Gall
Re: Canadian GTS's for sale
I don't agree with the $17,000.00 number. The reason is because I was very interested in the bike right from the start and checked several shops on price in '93. All the shops I went to in Vancouver had prices from $12,500 to $12,999. Even when I bought my bike in '95, there were several in the Vancouver area that were discounted to $11,999. Grant Gall Jason Crowley wrote: From my limited experience with the GTS at release I recall the list was near $17000CDN in 93. At the time I was too young to know it was a beautiful machine. Jason -Original Message- From: Kevin Harrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Canadian GTS's for sale I'm having trouble sympathizing with you Grant, they listed here for $12,999.00 US--which means you had a deep discount on the new ones!! ;) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Phil, it's the exchange that kills the $7,000 +/- US purchase price. If I were to use 45% as the exchange (actual # unknown) which should be within a few percentage points, that would equal $10,150 CDN. I bought mine in 1995 for $9,500 CDN. They listed new here at $12,999.00. I believe you can get around the MPH vs KM issue. Grant Gall __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: Corbin seat
Chris, I couldn't agree more. The Corbin is a great seat for me and my wife. Is your bike still for sale? Thanks again, Grant Gall Christopher Caputo wrote: I sold my corbin to grant gall. After riding with the corbin for awhile and then going back to the stock seat,I cant stand it! The corbin by far has a better shape.Has anyone on the list, sent the stock seat to sargents to be modified, with satisfactory results?I heard the russel seat is by far the best, but my inseam is only 30 inches ,and the russel rep said the seat would raise the seat height another 2 inches -not good for some one verticaly challenged.With the limited choices out there, I'll be ordering another corbin,this time I'll go to the factory to be custom fitted- all it takes is a phone call. Later, Chris
Canadian GTS's for sale
After touring 1,700 Km on the weekend with a friend of mine, he is interested in buying a GTS. Anybody know of one for sale in Canada? Grant Gall
Re: Canadian GTS's for sale
Great solution, but I would have to falsify my address so they don't come hunting! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops.nothing to do with motor vehicle departments. OK, I see the problem, but I also see the solution. Buy the bike for $7,000, then write the check to be drawn in Canadian funds. Hey, there has to be somebody out there who won't figure it out until you have the bike safely back in Canada! Phil On Tue, 23 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Phil, it's the exchange that kills the $7,000 +/- US purchase price. If I were to use 45% as the exchange (actual # unknown) which should be within a few percentage points, that would equal $10,150 CDN. I bought mine in 1995 for $9,500 CDN. They listed new here at $12,999.00. I believe you can get around the MPH vs KM issue. Grant Gall
Thanks Shawn P.
Shawn, I got my shirt yesterday. It looks great. Again, thanks for all of your efforts. Grant Gall
Suspension Settings
I had sent out a message a few days ago about suspension settings, but no one responded. I assume the message didn't get to the list. So here goes again. There have been comments in the past that the suspension settings are incorrect in the owners manual or shop/service manual. Which one is it? Is it the front or the rear? Grant Gall
Re: Protecting the Crown
Henry, I hate the scratches as well. So what I have done since my first bike is to have a soft key tag and only the bike key on that ring. Problem solved. But then you may say, what if I lose the key. I always have a spare hidden on it somewhere. Just don't tell anyone. I really can't understand those people who think they have to have all of their keys on one ring and then expect not to scratch stuff. My .02 Grant Henry wrote: I need some advice. I'd like to protect the handle crown (that chuck of cast aluminum around the ignition switch that holds the handlebars) from getting anymore scratched up by my key chain, than it already is, while having it look neat. I tried duct tape and quite frankly that ain't so hot. I'd like to keep the price on the lower side rather than the higher side (say under $25). What do you all recommend? Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD
Tires
Thanks for the info on tires. I went out and purchased a 170/60ZR17 Michelin Macadam 90XR. I wanted a BT57, but it would have taken them to long to get it in. The front is still the 130 and will last this season. We will see how it lasts. It will get a work out this weekend approx 1200 miles. Oh ya, the Michelin has a cool tread too! Grant Gall
Suspension Settings
This question has also been asked before, so once again I am not trying to start another long thread. Is it the owners manual or the shop/service manual that has the settings backwards? Is for the front or the rear? Thanks, Grant Gall
Tires Again
I DO NOT want to start another huge thread on this topic. What I am asking is, are you guys changing both tire sizes? I have looked through my saved e-mails and have found the following. Front Stock 130/60ZR17New Size 120/60ZR17 RearStock 170/60ZR17New Size ? One or two replies is sufficient. Thanks, Grant Gall
Re: GTS reviews
I've got two issues. Cycle World December 1992 and Motor Cyclist March 1993. Hope this helps. Grant Gall Gil Hillman wrote: Awhile ago someone mentioned the date of the original review of the 1993 GTS in Rider or Cycle World. I thought I'd try to get a back copy of that issue. Could someone remind me of the exact issue (I'm guessing it was June 1993 Rider)? Gil H.
FLUFF: Golf bag rack
I had an e-mail sent to me a while ago about a company which has a golf bag rack for bikes. Anyone know who it is? I am not sure if it come from this list or not. And no, it's not for the GTS or the Venture. A friend of mine was interested in it. Grant Gall
Fluff: Trailering your bike?
Huh, trailer you bike from Houston to San Antonio? According to my map it's only 197 miles for crying out loud - ride the darn thing!!! Sorry for the rant, but I hate seeing bikes on trailers. It's like going to Sturgis and seeing all those Ultra Classics on a trailer. Makes me want to cry. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Larry I, m in Houston but could trailer my GTS to San Antonio and ride from there, The summer is here, let me know of a weekend so I can arrange my schedule. I, m going to the Honda Hoot this year, hope to see fellow GTSers in Asheville. Raul R Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 93 GTS 22125
Re: Fluff: Trailering your bike?
Raul, to each his own. I won't be in Texas anytime soon on my GTS, but I would ride there if I could. Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Grant Just a difference in style I enjoy looking at bikes on trailers on the freeway. Better then looking at trucks or 18-wheelers. I'm not a DoD member, again a difference in style. I have about 22125 miles on my GTS. To me that is a lot of enjoyable, safe, accident free riding Oh, and if a central Texas ride is arranged I'll like to see you and meet you, maybe buy you lunch or a cup of coffee. Also you will be able to see my bike on its trailer, or with me on it. Have a nice day Raul R Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestion, Create a second list
Although I have never visited the Yahoo GTS chat room, I would assume this is where idle chat should take place. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't someone that is interested create a second list, a trivia list of sorts, that could be a forum for idle banter and motorcycle related info that is not directly GTS? Then, those interested in social affairs have an appropriate place to meet and exchange.
Re: AMA concerning OHV
You go Shawn!!! Grant Gall SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Let's start a real battle here folks (I love to see the wild ass ideas!) For Christ sake Ken and the rest of you constitutionally minded members. Going to Yellowstone and sitting in the middle of a field listening to nothing but nature is one of God's greatest gifts.why you might think mixing a gasoline powered device with total silence is beyond me. Wrapping yourself around such idiotic ideas as "if you let them win one..you've lost forever..." is such crap. The facts are simple, more people, less land...you want to ride ...go ride...just leave the National Parks as they were designed to be...a Friggin National Park! It's called compromisingif you don't want any land left to take your kids to..pave the hole friggin continent and invite the public. This is a personal battle for meI have vacation property in Canada (in family since 1922) the number of people that ride there bikes, dirt bikes, mini bikes, or just plain walk onto MY land...sit on MY God Damn Dock and Smoke a Stoogy and drink a bottle of wine to watch the sunset(seriously) and disrupt my personal space it disgusting. Instead of fighting the government, use some personal moderation.. This is the land of the free...but remember for every bike rider there's a bookworm that just wants to sit undisturbed and pontificated the dust in their navel! Motorcycles have their place...on private landsnot on public lands like national parks. The AMA does some great things to help promote and protect our sport...this is definately not one of them. It would be much more useful for them to promote save gun toting while riding as far as I'm concerned...hmmm the GTS Glove box could qualify as a concealed weapon location couldn't it? My bitchin for the day! Shawn P
Re: NHSTA Vehicle Owners Questionnaire
Been there done that. I don't know if it will do any good from Canada though. Grant Gall Loss, Joe wrote: We are talking about individually reporting the failure to the NHTSA via their web site form. Is that what you did? If so I'm number 2 in the head count. Joe. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 4:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NHSTA Vehicle Owners Questionnaire Seven reported failures seem a little strange. From the postings, I would have concluded that many more people reported the failure then what your sources are quoting you. I think we ought to take a head count. I for one have reported, in fact the bike is in the shop for inspection , as I type. David - Original Message - From: Henry S. Winokur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: RE: NHSTA Vehicle Owners Questionnaire I decided to check on the status of consumer complaints that had been submitted to the NHTSA was disappointed to find only 7 reports of brake related problems or concerns that had been reported. I know that the list had at least 30 reports of brake failures, even discounting our overseas members, there must be at least 15 of those failures in the US. We must not let the PR gesture by Yamaha prevent us from pushing for an investigation by You are right, Andy, and our follow-up on this is a really good idea. As a friend of mine pointed out, it isn't so bad that the ABS fails, but that the warning light indicating failure, fails to light leaving you to find out, at the most inopportune time, that the ABS has failed. Obviously the whole setup needs to be fixed, from the indicator light down through the HU. Fortunately I've not yet had this failure, but if and when it does come, I'll be reporting it to NHTSA. That same friend who is the general manager or a large dealership in the DC area, also gave me the phone # for the guy at NHTSA, who looks at these things. I have forwarded that info on to Joe Loss, so he could submit all of the info he has already collected.
Re: interesting letter
A very good read. Geez and to think I bought my 15 month old a PW50 just to ride on! Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Fluff alert, but go to www.speedvision.com and look into the motorcycle part of it, and scroll down and find the open letter from Dave Despain to the soccer moms of America. Read it. Interesting stuff. Phil
Re: Ya Just my luck
That is exactly what I am afraid of 'round here. Oh yeah - and the snow, how about seven inches at the shallowest point on my driveway. Now the snow banks are about 3' deep! Grant SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Took the ol 93 into a local dealer.always like it when the shop guys all stop working to come over an see this "funny front fork"...a the tribulations of owning a classic.. Tested my brakes for the broken HU...everything passes he says...I said take it out for a spin and lock up the back tireUh...errI can't do that he says...shit then if you perform a HU test with the bike standing still, how can you explain the damn skid marks I left all iver the place last summer.the brakes just "fixed" themselves I asked? "Well sometimes they do that he says"! Christ can't someone out there find a good service guy around here! Now I'll have to wait till spring, take the bike back in..show the man the defective brakes...then wait 9 million friggin weeks before I can ride the thing. Real glad I bought the YES plan last yearshould have go to Watkins Glenn Yamaha I guessleast they know what a GTS-1000 is.shit the guy writting up the paper work says "year and make of bike"...93 GTS-1000 Yamaha I saidHOW MANY CC'S IS THAT? Moron's... Moron'sI'm surrounded by friggin Moron's SP Venting hot air to melt all this friggin snow. PS I ordered three GTS Shirt for Grant, SP Bob...we need three more orders before we can have ours producedjust asking (politely! :))
Re: Avon Tire Sizes
Well for us metric literate Canadians, we say it's close enuf! Grant Gall Kevin T. Harrington wrote: I remember we were wondering about the size of tires so I have some info for the archives (which are really cool--thanks Mike) I just put some new Avon Azarro's on--they feel pretty sticky even brand new. The front measures 23 5/8" in diameter, about 4 7/8" in width with a tread depth of 1/8"@39 psi([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The rear is 25" dia., 7 1/4" wide, tread depth of 7/32"@41 psi)([EMAIL PROTECTED]). (please correct me if I'm wrong on the metric equiv's, after all, we crashed a Mars lander clinging to our non-metric ways in the US!!) Kev
Hello out there!
Hey, got 15 list messages today after about 5 days of nothing. Glad to hear the chat is still alive. Grant Gall
Re: Winter (FLUFF)
Geez Bobsob...I...can't.stop thinking...sniffhow terribleit...must...sob...beto just look.sob...sob...sob...sniff...at your.sniff...bike at thissob...sob...time of...sniff...sob...yearsob...sniff and notride it! WHWHAAA ;^) S/A #10 Grant Burton, Bob wrote: And I mean fluff, like in the snow variety, 12+ inches in parts of Charlotte NC and surrounding area (actually more to the south go figure), and just think it was 70 about a week ago and great riding all the way up into the mountains. Kurt, quit playing with that drag and drop weather. Bob B. (ps just so you know average YEARLY snowfall in Charlotte NC is 6.7 inches)
Re: Way Cool Darren:
Uhh Shawn."quality standards to be called a Canuck"...I am sure my friends to the south can barely keep their hands off the keyboard right now. YA HAD TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN DIDN'T YA!!! ;^) Well just remember at least our beer is beer OK! Not that watery stuff... Thanks for the help today Shawn. I did fax my order in to Donna. the only thing I did not have was the shirt number, but I gave her your phone number. Nice eh? Thanks again, Grant Gall SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: I got my shirts today and I must say I'm impressed. Very nice indeed !!! Big thanks to the guys who went through the trouble to set this deal up !!! Darren Kinoshita Nice to see that every once in a while the GTS Gods smile down upon us..thanks to all who helped with donations, advice, connections and oh yeah that fake Canadian guy up there in Minnesota (he only wishes he could meet the quality standards to be called a Canuck...right Grant?!!) (Please direct all flames to western New York where it's a baumy 6 degrees F today) Enjoy your new line of clothing folks.. Shawn P
Re: Canadian GTS HU
Agreed Jay. I really wasn't trying to be nasty about Yamaha Canada's approach, although it may have sounded that way. My point was that Yamaha Canada will seemingly determine the cause based on their views and possibly not on what we or Yamaha USA knows or has said. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 01/17/2000 12:35:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it would appear that Yamaha Canada will approach the problem differently that the USA. Despite any verbal promise by customer service, I assure you any (as in ANY) owner will have to take a GTS into the dealer for inspectation before anything will be done. There is no written policy available that says Yamaha will fix or replace any ABS part beyond warranty, although they are most likely going to do it. I got that as official word from Yamaha. It should appear in the March issue of MCN. It makes sense they have to have a dealer look first. Suppose it failed because some idiot took a hammer to it or ran it over with his Suburban? Think Yamaha is gonna warranty that? -Jay
Canadian GTS HU
I just had a call from Scott Harrison from Yamaha Canada in Toronto. Scott is a Technical Service Manager with them. His telephone number is 1-416-498-1911 Ext.# 2551 Apparently, Scott received a message from someone about my HU, it was not me. Scott could not tell me who the message was from. I assume it was from Yamaha USA. He asked me about the HU on the GTS. I told him about our story and what Yamaha USA has announced. Which is replacement of a failed unit. Yamaha Canada will NOT authorize a "fix" without inspection by a certified Yamaha mechanic and some form of contact by me, with him directly. Yamaha Canada will then get in touch with the dealer. I am to take the bike in for inspection and Yamaha Canada will determine at that time as to whether they will fix it or not. I did ask who would be responsible for the inspection costs. The inspection cost will only be covered if it is determined there is a need for a fix. I also asked about how long this offer would stand. He said "I would assume you would take it in, in the spring". So it would appear that Yamaha Canada will approach the problem differently that the USA. Politics, Politics. Grant Gall
Re: batteries
I'm still on battery #1. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just planning a ride tomorrow, yes, on the GTS, with a friend, and mentioned that I'm concerned about the status of my battery. He was shocked to find that my 93 still has the original battery, since of the 40+ bikes he's owned over the years, he doesn't recall any going beyond about 4 years max. I said I thought most of us still have the originals in our bikes. Was I right? How many original batteries are still functioning out there? Phil
Agrium Carseland Nitrogen Operations
Gord can you provide price and delivery on the following items. Reply by January 21, 2000. 1 Pl- 3/8" x 4' x 10' 321 Stainless Steel Plate 1 Pl- 5/16" x 4' x 8' same 40 Ft - 21/2" Sch 40 321 Stainless Steel Seamless Pipe He has also asked if we know of 25-22-2 Urea Grade low carbon stainless steel. He calls it Stami-Carbon. Reply to: Agrium Carseland Nitrogen Operations Box 5370, Station A Calgary, Alberta T2H 2P4 Ph# 1-403-936-5821 Ext# 316 Fax# 1-403-936-2377 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attn: Nick Korenda Note: Carseland is approx 60 KM SE of Calgary. We only have to make it FOB Calgary if we want. He can arrange the freight from there. Send a copy to me as well. Thanks, Grant
Canada Food Equipment Ltd.
Gord, this one is for Bernadette. Bernadette can you provide price and delivery on the following items. Reply by Jan 18/00. 10 shts - 16 ga x 4' x 10' 304SS #4 sheet 10 len - 1" x 0.065 304SS Round Tubing Reply to: Canada Food Equipment Ltd. #C3, 624 Beaver Dam Road N.E., Calgary, Alberta T2K 2W6 Ph# 1-403-275-5622 Fax# 1-403-275-5675 Attn: Jennifer Chung Thanks, Grant
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Sorry about the wrong addresses on a couple of e-mails there folks. It was not intentional. Grant Gall
Re: Cabin Fever, case study of sa#2 assorted fluff
Kurt, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head. YES, send all of your bikes north. I can probably drool over them better than you at this time of year. Detailing not included. Now if I could only get myself a dual purpose bike. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/11/00 10:39:06 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who know's...just dazed and confused with cabin fever...off to Chicago today, Milwaukee Friday...thanks for your help...keep me posted Shawn P To people in southern latitudes: This is what happens when all you can do is "think" about riding motorcycles for half the years. It's sad, I know. To self-medicate in the northern latitudes, we "maintain equlibrium" by purchasing more motorcycles and such than we could possibly have ready by spring. Save us. Send your extra bikes to Kurt, Grant and Shawn and any others who store their bikes for six months or more. Hey, we're on the downhill side of this winter thing... Sun is going down at about 4:30 now! Kurt
Re: GTS Wheels
I just finished reading the February 2000 MotorCyclist magazine. In that issue there is an article on "The idiot's guide to detailing". One of the detailers contacted uses semichrome applied with fingers or a dremel tool. In the same article they say semichrome is no longer available, and that Autosol is a similar polish. Personally, I use bug and tar remover, maybe WD40 on really hard stuff, then dish soap and lots of elbow grease. Nothing else. Grant Gall Mike wrote: Has anyone polished their wheels ... or found a product that keeps em looking good without buffing em all the time? I cleaned mine up about 3 months ago with some metal polish (semichrome maybe) and they look terrible already. What's the hot set up here? Mike Cordon '94 GTS '86 Toyota Van
Re: Winter Ride
The skiing is better compared to where? Banff, Lake Louise, Whistler are usually rated in the top five in North America. Grant from the frozen north [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/7/00 10:11:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great! Jay, are you going to ride your GTS this time? (I've already seen your ST1100) Most likely I'll join with the GTSers. You could have seen my GTS the last time we invited you for a ride to Gold Country. I'm riding the ST1100 up the coast this weekend to Monterey (where I'm emailing from). A bit cold for me (That's below 60 degrees F., my northern friends.), but glorious riding up PCH. Needed the ST for the luggage capacity on this trip. And I haven't put the grip heaters on the GTS YET and I love them on the ST. And for those sitting in the snow, I moved to California long ago so that I could ride in January. The bonus is, the skiing is better here too! Jay
Lands End website
Help! I am totally lost after an hour of looking and reading around the site. I did look under corporate sales and order a catalogue, but it just didn't seem to feel that I was doing the right things. How the heck do you place an order? And where do you plug in the code number? Grant Gall
Re: HU Replacement
Paul, the HU is the Hydraulic Unit for the ABS. There has been 30+ HU failures noted by those on the list. This is a very high failure rate when the amount of GTS's on the road is taken into account. There have been many many postings on this list about ABS failures. Joe Loss was kind enough, on behalf of all GTS owners, to put a letter together on this topic and send it to Yamaha for their opinion. Their initial response was that nothing would/could be done. But then just prior to Christmas Yamaha gave us all a present, they will "fix" and/or replace the unit, if it has failed at no cost to the owner. How do you know if your ABS is working? First, there are for more rear brake failures than front. The suggestion has been made that you test your ABS. Try locking up the rear brake when stopping. If you feel a pulsation on the rear brake pedal and you don't leave a continuos skid mark, you should be OK. The front can be tested in the same manner, but of course, it is a little riskier. Grant Gall Paul Koontz wrote: Grant: I am new to the list and have had my GTS since July 1998. I don't mean to sound thick but can you explain what the HU is. Thanks in advance for a response. Paul Koontz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 6:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject:HU Replacement Merry New Year to all you listers out there around the world. I thought I would tell you that I just spoke with Jordan Cavanaugh at Yamaha USA. I had left a voice message for him prior to Christmas regarding whether the "fix" will be available for Canadian GTS owners. Jordan has confirmed that Yamaha Canada will "fix" the HU, to the same extent as what is being done in the USA. There is no time frame for a "fix". I asked this specifically because my bike is in winter storage for a few more months. He did suggest that I get it "fixed" in side of one year. Just so you know. Grant Gall
Re: GTS-1000 digest 241
Kelly, Kelly, Kelly when I said the north country I meant Canada. You know the land of snow and ice 6 months of the year. As for riding 500 miles on Friday night, I would have to truck my bike from Calgary to San Fran, or at least to where I could ride it. Sitting in a cage for the first 1600 miles before riding YUCK! Grant Gall Kelly Cash wrote: You know, you guys down south don't have to rub it in. From the north country. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone on the list interested; Kelly Cash and myself are planning a two day ride in San Diego County up into the mountains and down the back way thru Tecate and over to Ensanada . . . Hey, I have to ride 500 miles Friday night just to GET to the starting point! What rubbing in? Quit whining, and come on out! :-) I know there are a lot of people closer to San Diego than I am, I hope to see a lot of them! -K == Kelly CashMain: 408-727-5497 Solid Data Systems FAX: 408-727-5496 2945 Oakmead Village Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Clara, CA 95051 www.soliddata.com ==
2 1994 GTS's
Alan, from 2 GTS's to none - cold turkey. Isn't that like taking candy from a baby, it just can't be done. And year round GTS riding to boot in Florida. Can someone get me a tissue! Grant Gall
Re: rear Sprocket RE: I'm interested Gearhead!
Geez Jon, you had to take off the front wheel to remove the chain! Dang.I knew I got ripped off when I bought the bike. I just knew something was missing! ;^) S/A #10 Merry Christmas Happy New Year to everyone. Grant Gall
Re: NHSTA Vehicle Owners Questionnaire
I just filled out mine, ODI #716348. I am hoping the NHTSA has contacts with Canadian authorities. I have a call into Jordan as well, to ask if this "fix" is for the USA only. Grant Gall Andy Perry wrote: ODI Number: 716247 I have submitted my report emplore all who have had problems with their ABS to do so ASAP. http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/ivoq/default.htm
Re: Complete Fluff
Either you people are way to considerate or my Complete Fluff posting did not make it to the list. I had it bounce back to me, so I assume it is out there. The message was regarding our inter-active sports card game called Play By Play Sports Cards. Did anyone read this? Grant Gall
Re: Complete Fluff
Well the bullets are flying now Yes I know the messages are spam-like, but we ARE looking for marketing avenues in the USA and world wide. Just trying to network with the listers business lives to see if there may be an opportunity. I certainly don't know what everyone does for a day job. Contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or web site www.playthisgame.com Thanks for listening. Grant Gall
Re: Canadian Fluff
Gee, and I thought that was a well kept secret! Grant George Paramithas wrote: Keep yer stick on the ice. Spoken like a true Canadian eh! I wonder if those southerners know what we are talking about? S/A #10 Grant It's not that infamous frozen semi-erection you are referring to is it? I heard form reliable sources you Cans suffer from such conditions due to the cold. Obviously it's not only scoots you boys store for the long soft winters :- We southerners know the truth __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Swingarm Pivot Bolt
When I moved from British Columbia to Alberta, my all my vehicles (bikes included) had to go through a safety inspection. Yet another tax grab! The inspection can only be done by certified shops and mechanics. My GTS failed because of excessive movement sideways on the rear swing arm. I had it apart prior to having the bike inspected and had re-torqued it to the manual spec's. I was told at that time that the manual's listed torque spec was incorrect. The factory torque was correct. After riding the bike to the manual's spec'd torque, the spacer/bushing became to thin. The manual states 150Nm (15.0m/kg, 110 ft/lb) the correct torque for the swing arm I am told is 120 ft/lb. I would also suggest you go the extra mile and purchase new spacers/bushings while you have it apart. Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 1993 GTS has 20,000 miles on it. When I checked the play in the swingarm I noticed that it was excessive. Upon removing the swingarm I discovered that the bearings were fine and that the play came from the pivot bolt being too loose in the frame. I can't see any noticeable wear on the frame or bolt so I believe that it was not machined properly from the factory. Is anyone familiar with this and if their is a way to correct it? Thanks, Thomas
Re: Heated Gloves, Liners
Silk eh Mike.I can here the snickers from here! S/A #10 Grant Michael Weaver wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, BENSON wrote: One other thing--I use silk liners, available in any ski shop. (I've already gotten grief for "footy pegs" so I won't comment on the silk undies that go with them. ) The liners are thin, and do give additional warmth without adding thickness of any appreciable amount. Can be used under regular or winter weight gloves. Relatively cheap. Try 'em. No grief from me. Silk is *very* warm. I use silk liners in my gloves, I love 'em. Mike silky -- Michael Weaver (706)542-6468 [EMAIL PROTECTED] UCNS Network Specialist LAN Support Group University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html
