Re: [h-cost] Dress with rickrack lace on concluded ebay auction

2005-10-22 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Fran, I just googled Piecework rick-rack  and found three volumes of
Weldons Needlework that might give you the resources for your project.

Kathleen

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8341058481fromMakeTrack=true

 If the link doesn't work, try searching eBay on the item number.

 The rickrack  medallions seem to be held in the center by some kind of
 simple embroidery or needle lace stitch.

 Fran
 Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming
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Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-22 Thread Nancy Kiel
I looked thru the Met's online info, and couldn't find the base.  Can you offer 
guidance?
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  I'm not sure if you want organ pipe pleating or rolled pleats 
  documentation, but if it is the former, the Metropolitan Museum of Art 
  has a military base which is organ pipe pleated (Early 16th century).  
  Blanche Paynes History of Costume has a discussion and a pattern for 
  it.  I've spent some time looking for an earlier word for them, but have 
  not come up with it in English or German.  The English word only goes 
  back to to about 1890.  The current German word Röhrenfalten doesn't 
  appear in Grimm's etemological dictionary.  I have queried both Leo 
  online forums (back in March 05) and non-current German forum (just today):

  If you find anything, I'd sure like to hear about it.

  Sg

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Re: [h-cost] Dress with rickrack lace on concluded ebay auction

2005-10-22 Thread Lavolta Press

You know, I have that whole series and didn't think to look in it!

Thanks for reminding me.

Fran
Lavolta Press
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Lloyd Mitchell wrote:


Fran, I just googled Piecework rick-rack  and found three volumes of
Weldons Needlework that might give you the resources for your project.

Kathleen
 

 


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[h-cost] Victorian Costume by Ruth Buck ?

2005-10-22 Thread Dawn

Victorian Costume - and Costume Accessories (ISBN:0903585170) Buck, Ruth.


Another book I'm considering purchasing... does anyone have this or know 
if the contents are worth it? It's an older title so I'm not sure if the 
photos are going to be that good.




Dawn


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Re: [h-cost] Victorian Costume by Ruth Buck ?

2005-10-22 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 16:50 22/10/2005, you wrote:

Victorian Costume - and Costume Accessories (ISBN:0903585170) Buck, Ruth.


Another book I'm considering purchasing... does anyone have this or 
know if the contents are worth it? It's an older title so I'm not 
sure if the photos are going to be that good.




That's Anne Buck, not Ruth. It is a very useful little book indeed. I 
bought it in a second hand shop, and find it very handy.


Suzi 



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Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-22 Thread WickedFrau
Sure, until I find it in my backed up pictures, you can get a hold of 
these books;


Payne, Blanche. *History of Costume - From the Ancient Egyptians to the 
Twentieth Century* (1965). Harper  Row, USA.


This book is rather odd.  It has no ISBN number.  The copyright on mine 
is 1965, but I cannot tell what edition it is.  It has a Library of 
Congress Cataloge card number 65-10419.  It is critical to get the 
right version as some versions do not have the patterns in the back.  
In my particular edition there is a  BW photo of a surviving base (fig. 
288, pg 272) from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, Arms  Armor 
Collection. It also has a to-scale pattern draft in the back of the 
book, with notes.


Another good base picture can be found in:
Davenport, Millia, The Book of Costume (1948), Crown Publishers, New York. 
My edition is a two volume series, second printing.  On page
159, figure 450 is a quilted gold brocade Waffenrock which supposedly 
belonged to Maximilian.  This one is photo'd (IMO) inside out so you can 
see the tapings on the inside.


The gowns which have this type of pleating were sometimes called falten 
(pleated) or wappen Roeke (oe = umlauted o).  Wappen can mean a few 
things depending on the time and place (weapon or coat of arms), 
sometimes it is spelled waffen.  So again in IMO they were probably 
copied from the style used in the military bases. 


Sg
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Nancy Kiel wrote:


I looked thru the Met's online info, and couldn't find the base.  Can you offer 
guidance?
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 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats


 I'm not sure if you want organ pipe pleating or rolled pleats 
 documentation, but if it is the former, the Metropolitan Museum of Art 
 has a military base which is organ pipe pleated (Early 16th century).  
 Blanche Paynes History of Costume has a discussion and a pattern for 
 it.  I've spent some time looking for an earlier word for them, but have 
 not come up with it in English or German.  The English word only goes 
 back to to about 1890.  The current German word Röhrenfalten doesn't 
 appear in Grimm's etemological dictionary.  I have queried both Leo 
 online forums (back in March 05) and non-current German forum (just today):


 If you find anything, I'd sure like to hear about it.

 Sg

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[h-cost] Blanche Paynes book with patterns

2005-10-22 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
I would be very greatfull if  anybody could tell me a little more of these 
patterns.
Some years ago i photocopyed some patterns from a book at the library, and 
just wondered if these are from the book of Blanche Payne.
There is the cut of the wool mantua and a pattern of an 18th century dress 
made in silk faille, jacket and skirt. Also the cut of Frederik V's, wedding 
suit also a francaise dress and there are photos of the actual garments.
Just in case that i didnt need to buy the book, i am only interrested in the 
patterns, if i dont have them already.

Would be very gratefull if some could give me a clue

Bjarne





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Re: [h-cost] Blanche Paynes book with patterns

2005-10-22 Thread thebruce
 I would be very greatfull if  anybody could tell me a
 little more of these  patterns.
 Some years ago i photocopyed some patterns from a book at
 the library, and  just wondered if these are from the book
 of Blanche Payne. There is the cut of the wool mantua and
 a pattern of an 18th century dress  made in silk faille,
 jacket and skirt. Also the cut of Frederik V's, wedding
 suit also a francaise dress and there are photos of the
 actual garments. Just in case that i didnt need to buy the
 book, i am only interrested in the  patterns, if i dont
 have them already. Would be very gratefull if some could
 give me a clue


Kia ora Bjarne,

That does indeed sound like the Patterns in Payne. There is
also a line drawing of the Danish Mantua (please forgive me,
I'm away from my computor and so can't spell the correct
name.)

The patterns at the bottom are numbered then lettered. So if
the pattern takes 3 pages it's labelled like 1a, 1b, 1c.

michaela de bruce
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Re: [h-cost] Blanche Paynes book with patterns

2005-10-22 Thread WickedFrau
Sounds about right.  Mine has 43 different patterns...if that helps and 
indeed there is a pattern for the wedding suit of King Frederick of 
Denmark (1743) and a Gold Embroidered Wool Dress c1690.  Looks like it 
could be a mantua, but isn't called one directly.


Sg


The patterns at the bottom are numbered then lettered. So if
the pattern takes 3 pages it's labelled like 1a, 1b, 1c.

michaela de bruce
 



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[h-cost] CostumeCon24 Online Registration

2005-10-22 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger

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