Re: [h-cost] H-Cost list errors?
I don't know if anybody else has written, but the list has been its usual active self, so if you still aren't receiving it there might be a problem at your end. Good luck! - Original Message - From: Angela F Lazear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: [h-cost] H-Cost list errors? I have not received mail from the list for several days now, and wanted to be sure that nothing had changed in my subscription. I could resub if it's necessary, but wanted to check first to see what's up. angela + Angela F. Lazear Cabbage Rose Costumes www.cabbagerosecostumes.com Theatrical Costume Design Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none: be able for thine enemy rather in power than use, and keep thy friend under thy own life's key: be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech... W. Shakespeare ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bodleian Corset Images, Trade Cards
I just realized that my bookmarks aren't working for this site either. It's not the most friendly, intuitive site, but not too hostile either. Bodacious Basic Bodliean url: http://www.rsl.ox.ac.uk/ Click on Online Catalogue and electronic resources link (on left) to get to: http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/elec-res.html Click on John Johnson Collection to get to: http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/elec-res.html The top of this next page will say: The John Johnson Collection of Printed Ephemera COPYRIGHT INFORMATION Then you have to scroll to the very bottom of that page, I understand that copyright in the images belongs to The Bodleian Library, Oxford, and I accept the conditions explained above for access to the images. Click on the blue highlighted I accept the conditions (the copyright conditions - nothing too onerous since they allow use for private study, the angels. Click on Catalogue on the red window on the left-hand side to search. There is also and Exhibition button which is an online exhibition of some of the collection, broken down by various themes. I think I mostly used Index 5-Subjects, Trades, Products to search in, using stays or corsets to search in. Have fun exploring. I'm leaving for a conference tomorrow so I won't be back until the weekend. I hope that these instructions more helpful. Sheridan At 11:24 PM 1/30/2006 -0500, you wrote: David? Sheridan? I would LOVE to see the images you're talking about, but I can't figure out how to use the system. Could you be a little more specific? Thank you! Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT -- tablet
At 02:56 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote: Tablet is a pure sugar rush - My Mom used to make it when we were kids and we called it fried fudge. Had no idea it was called butter tablet elsewhere. I am very intrigued by this. Google is my friend: http://www3.sympatico.ca/scruss/tablet.html clear, step by step directions. Doesn't seem difficult, but it does sound tasty. I've tried, but I can't think if a single way to make this costume related! Denise You need an apron =-O! Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories
Tania, you might want to ask Bjarne...he'd probably know. Sg Tania Gruning wrote: Hiya all. I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking for the 16'th century. Tania - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 04:44 AM 1/31/2006, you wrote: I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? [snip] It just means that the inventory of the wardrobe still exists. We don't have very many extant (i.e., surviving) clothing pieces. It depends on what you mean by very many. Compared to how many were made and worn--no. Compared to how many people _think_ are still extant -- you might be surprised. (I know I have been.) Heather -- Heather Rose Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heatherrosejones.com LJ:hrj ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 18c stays
Okay, this is overwhelming! So, basically, there are two easy patterns out there: JP Ryan and Butterick. And from all the discussion, it looks like there are a variety of preferences for the boning: - cable ties - reed - metal - plastic (but it sounds like this is not the ideal option, since plastic is sweaty no matter where you live). Well, I guess as I work on finishing the current garment, I'll start planning for the corset... at least the first one. At this point, I suppose I'm just making a costume, but as I continue and learn, I'll be able to construct things a little more authentically. Our winter in Eastern PA has been fairly mild... it actually hit the 60's this week! Kristin On 1/31/06, Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mia, The petticoat is cotton, but with a nice sateen to it. I thought it would at least imitate the look of silk to a certain extent. I'd really like to have a more authentic pair of stays before starting a second outfit. I've been thinking about trying to draft my own pattern - but haven't been really sure where to start. The other question, is whether to use the plastic boning, or go the metal route... and then which type... and how does one get the right sizes? Tin-snips? I've already purchased a yard of duck-cloth, and a couple of yards of cotton twill in white and red. I'm just doing this to do it. I suppose I could use it for halloween next year... although a couple people have suggested using it as a wedding dress. I made my own dress for my first marriage, so I've been trying to avoid thinking about the possibility of making another one... although I do have about 10 yards of some gorgeous white cotton damask. Hmmm... a sacque? I suppose, once I get more comfortable making several items, I may risk making something out of silk... but until then, I'll stick with what's affordable. Kristin Oh stays..., I've done several, but since I'm an active reenactor, and trying to progress to a more authentic reenactor, my solutions, might not be your solutions. Like I said, the butterick pattern seems to be good, especially for 3rd quarter or so 18th c. Making 18c stays is not as hard as one might think. just somewhat time consuming. And I always have challenges with the fit. For the stays I've done I've, 1. used the J.P Ryan patterns (very nice- and gives that good ice cream cone shape.) I used metal and cable ties and that stringy box binding stuff that is almost like whale bone...this is not a good description, but I really don't know how to do better. These were really nice. 2. used the later 18c pattern from Hunnicut, and blew it up on a copy machine. these were nice too. I used basket cane and metal bones at the stress points. These were nice too 3. Back to JP Ryan for the pattern, bound in leather, wool covered, fully boned, cable ties and metal in stress points, cane everywhere else. They are really beautiful. 3. on the table to do now. the butterick pattern, cut out in linen, will be halfboned with ? All done on the machine For me basket caning works, but i am frequently out in the heat of a North Carolina Summer. Anything Plastic just doesn't breathe enough for me. I've never had a piece of cane break. and boy does it support!! Choice of patterns ...JP Ryan is good, the butterick is good. I don't have the skills to draft one from scratch and have it come out looking like I want it to. Again all these choices are based on where you are wearing it, and what you want it for. Costume and just for fun has different needs than reenactor and museum work. 18c Mia in Charlotte, NC where there is no sign of winter. Boy i'm not looking forward to another hot summer... gotta get those linen stays done. - Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] re: costume experts
I would consider Robert Trump to be an expert BTW. He is with the St. Louis Opera still I believe. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Paying for color copies: was 16th Century Nationality Dress Characteristics...long
Just out of curiousity, how much did the color copy cost? Always looking for cool color pictures -- especially of embroidery! I have paid up to $100 for a color reprint. That was of a painting not currently on exhibit (in America) , and supposedly the museum did not have a color copy (which I think was probably BS). I have paid £10 for a black and white reprint, and the least I have paid is for a color transparency is £35. The latter was a rental and is like a large slide. Shipping and handling is extra and is about £6 in each of those cases. I was allowed to make a copy for the purposes of the slide show. The biggest hindrance is having a legitimate reason for wanting one. Fortunately I was in graduate school this past year doing research so I didn't have to fib about that, and since I was doing a presentation at the Phoenix Art Museum, they seemed to accept that. But I had to explain all that. I wouldn't let it inhibit you...all they can say is no. Surprisingly enough, if you can find a postcard of the painting those scan very well, (I think the detail on a least one I got was better than some of the detail on the transparencies I have received.) and I have had some places send those to me gratis...they even paid postage! I asked for a more detailed, higher resolution for a painting on IMAREAL and they sent that to me, no questions asked, on a CD! Good point about Anguissolathat would be a good comparison to see if I could find a match.. I have responded to the list since I had multiple inquiries about the same thing Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] History of the Parasol
Hi all, I've recently written an article on the history of the parasol through the 16th and early 17th centuries. Over the last 4 or 5 years, reenactors and faire people have repeatedly told me parasols arent period. I've had the evidence to support their use for at least as long, but I finally decided to make a formal article about it. Although I am selling items elsewhere on this site, my goal with this article wasn't to sell more, but to provide reenactors with the evidence to dispel this particular myth. So, I invite anyone interested to have a look. You may check out the article at http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/parasolhist.html. I will be forwarding this article to several lists during the next few days, so I apologize if you receive this several times. I hope you all enjoy, Margaret Roe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] History of the Parasol
Fascinating article, Margaret! Your parasols look great. One minor point; Sir Henry Unton would be referred to as Sir Henry, not Sir Unton. ( Sir is never used with the family name alone. I suppose knighthood existed before surnames were established.) Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories
Hi, Rigsarkivet has some i know. For instance the whole portefeuille that went to Sweden when Sophia Magdalena married Gustav III in Sweden 1766. Her whole wardrobe is there documented. I dont know how far back they go though, but i believe i have read refferences to renaissance inventories in the danish book called Dagligliv i Norden i det 16. år. Af Troels Lund. Sorry for being late, ben buisy embroidering :-) Bjarne - Original Message - From: WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:26 AM Subject: [h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories Tania, you might want to ask Bjarne...he'd probably know. Sg Tania Gruning wrote: Hiya all. I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking for the 16'th century. Tania - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again
--- Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm bracing myself to do yet another corset with tabs. This time I would like to use something besides steel because the steels that go down into the tabs from the corset itself tend to bend and stay bent. Besides, they are expensive. I happen to have some real whale bone, both as stay size pieces and as an entire frond. The young man who gave me the stays told me don't ask, but I suspect they came from Japan. The small frond I got on E-Bay and came with a certificate that it was gotten pre-ban and legally. I got it mainly so I could have something to show when teaching. Problem is that once you have handled the real thing you aren't going to be impressed with cable ties as a substitute. So reeds/broom straw seems a better answer. I know that several people have used reed successfully. How big? Where did you get it? Either this or maybe a nice broom and lots of quilting thread? I did check the archives, but didn't see exactly what I was looking for. Do I want 1/4 oval, 1.5mm round reed, 1mm round reed? Broom? One reason I particularly want a new corset is because I have done something to my back. On 12th night I knew I was going to be wearing a 35 pound houpeland (BIG Sleeves, Velvet lined with light weight wool, full circle) and was willing to bet my back was not going to be happy. I put on my Tudor corset made from the corset generator pattern with added tabs and was comfortable for 18 hours! I'm beginning to think this is what I want for work as well. I'm pleasingly plump ;-) and a B cup but I have _hips_ (bum roll? what bum roll?) so the tiny waist immediately flairs out to quite substantial hips (weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.) This means that the tabs are a point of considerable strain for any stiffening. Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey Wanda, My effigy-style corset is boned with broomstraw which is astonishingly rigid, but with a little bit of flex. I can't bend over in it, though. The broomstraw isn't millet straw, but something called 'Darwin fibre' - unfortunately the broom company from which I got it has gone out of business. ( I got some millet straw, but I didn't think it would be strong enough. Nor was it long enough. The Darwin fibre looks very much like the reeds/bents in one of the stomachers in Janet Arnold's PoF, I can't remember which one, offhand. ) The straws are approx. 1mm diameter, with I think somewhere between 10 and 20 straws on average going into each channel. The channels are the width of half of the presser foot on my sewing machine - approx. 5-6mm wide. The straws extend down into the tabs, and so far are holding up well to the strain: I have your problem - bumroll, what bumroll? The tabs don't actually flare that acutely - they sort of smooth things out. The other thing which I have used successfully in the same style corset is hemp cord, the same as on this page: http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/cording/cord.html The good thing about the hemp cord is that it allows complete freedom of movement, while providing excellent support. On of my friends whose corset is boned with hemp cord has actually slept in it. ( I can lie down in my straw-boned corset, but it's not really the most comfortable thing to do. ) My next corset is going to be done with hemp cord - I need to be able to move in camp. Hope this helps. Joannah. _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
How about approaching the fashion magazines, sewing magazines, or big design houses with a proposal? Or museums? Nancy Kiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never tease a weasel! This is very good advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice. From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:44:59 -0600 (CST) (He developed a reasonable familiarity with costume terms because of the nature of that work, but I would guess costume research doesn't pay the bills the way family history or heraldic research does.) --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: the virgin queen
Watched Episode 2 last night. The men's a anachronistic breeches were more obvious this week (though I liked the tennis scenes), and, as someone commented, the women's skirts don't look as though they have enough support (perhaps the designers thought that farthingales would look as odd to modern eyes as they thought trunk-hose would). Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor I know. I don't think I can watch it any more, it's just annoying me EVERY time I see them supposedly being regal and just looking floppy (skirted)... Mind you, Kevin McKidd looked mighty fine playing real tennis :-) so it's not all bad!! Katherine the not easily pleased. A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] inventories o/t Queen Sofie
There is an exhibition at Kronborg Castle in North Sealand, Denmark about the wedding of Frederik II and Sofie, his queen to be. They reconstrukted her weddingdress, and this link only shows a poor picture of it. Its after a portrait, and i think they did a very fine job. http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100 Sofie came from Germany and became queen in Denmark. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie
Hi sorry. There are more pictures of the dress if you go to: http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100 Scroll down and there are 2 links written in blue. The first gives pictures of the opening of the exhibition with pictures of the dress, the second link is a windows movieclip about the wedding.. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What to do with old clothes
Thanks for the info. Interesting... Other old clothes can be recycled by dropping them off at Animal Shelters to be used as rags or bedding for the shelter animals. Stained and raggy towels and other textiles are also useful to the shelters. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Cin wrote: Better than donations to charity, more value-add than quilting from clothing scraps, launch your suit into orbit! This fabulous news from spaceweather.com SUITSAT: On February 3rd, astronauts plan to hurl an old spacesuit overboard from the International Space Station. The disembodied suit, nicknamed SuitSat, will proceed to circle Earth, transmitting a radio message which anyone can hear using a police scanner or a ham radio tuned to 145.990 MHz FM. This strange experiment is a test of a sensible idea--that old spacesuits might be transformed into useful satellites. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] History of the Parasol
REALLY interesting article! Two little nits--when you mention parare, to shield in the etymology of parasol, you should also mention sol, sun. And please, in possessive form of it, NO apostrophe. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy (English) and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: mlysett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 31, 2006 10:27 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] History of the Parasol Hi all, I've recently written an article on the history of the parasol through the 16th and early 17th centuries. Over the last 4 or 5 years, reenactors and faire people have repeatedly told me parasols arent period. I've had the evidence to support their use for at least as long, but I finally decided to make a formal article about it. Although I am selling items elsewhere on this site, my goal with this article wasn't to sell more, but to provide reenactors with the evidence to dispel this particular myth. So, I invite anyone interested to have a look. You may check out the article at http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/parasolhist.html. I will be forwarding this article to several lists during the next few days, so I apologize if you receive this several times. I hope you all enjoy, Margaret Roe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie
She looks beautiful--so simple and elegant. What are the fabrics, do you know? Thanks! --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 1, 2006 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie Hi sorry. There are more pictures of the dress if you go to: http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100 Scroll down and there are 2 links written in blue. The first gives pictures of the opening of the exhibition with pictures of the dress, the second link is a windows movieclip about the wedding.. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] book
Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had hoped for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone fashion. Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful. It is about the size of a meat grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the spacing of the fabric being pinked. This helps the fabric to self feed as you crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines. I prepared strips of fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through the pinker in about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian cotton. The edges are somewhat feathery but uniform. Using a stiffer textile, I got the sharp zigzag one would expect. Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy. Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie She looks beautiful--so simple and elegant. What are the fabrics, do you know? Thanks! --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer Hi, I have not gone to se it yeat, but my guess is that it is made of red velvet with gold. The sleaves and the underdress i dont know! There is a portrait of her in that dress, but it only shows a little of the gown. She was the mother of our later king Christian IV, who builded many castles in Denmark. There is a saying about her birth of Christian. It was a very hot summers day, and she had ordered herself and some maids over to a little island lying just besides the Frederiksborg Castle. She came into labours, and gave birth to Christian there on the island. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT
So your experience with noil is that it isn't a sturdy fabric? De -Original Message- I am looking for a light weight material to make a banner. I have been recommended Silk Noil as a possible fabric. How sturdy is silk noil Not very. If you're going to use noil, you might as well use 100% cotton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What to do with old clothes
I'll pass this along to some of the ham radio people I know. Actually I'll get my husband to put it in the next issue of our radio club's newsletter (he's the editor). Jeanine n1qit Cin wrote: Better than donations to charity, more value-add than quilting from clothing scraps, launch your suit into orbit! This fabulous news from spaceweather.com SUITSAT: On February 3rd, astronauts plan to hurl an old spacesuit overboard from the International Space Station. The disembodied suit, nicknamed SuitSat, will proceed to circle Earth, transmitting a radio message which anyone can hear using a police scanner or a ham radio tuned to 145.990 MHz FM. This strange experiment is a test of a sensible idea--that old spacesuits might be transformed into useful satellites. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT
For garmets I've found noil to be very sturdy, but the edges to have to be carefully finished. However, I would not recommend using it for a banner. It doesn't look like silk. It looks like slubby linen. Also, it is not color fast and will continue to shed dye every time you wash it. The cream noil lining of my green blue noil dress is definitely now pale teal. If you're using high contrast colors, they will likely bleed on each other if it gets wet. You can get much lighter silks for probably about the same price. A friend who does silk dyed banners recommends Habotai. Check Dharma Traders. Tayla - Original Message - From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT So your experience with noil is that it isn't a sturdy fabric? De -Original Message- I am looking for a light weight material to make a banner. I have been recommended Silk Noil as a possible fabric. How sturdy is silk noil Not very. If you're going to use noil, you might as well use 100% cotton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Protecting wool?
I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here. I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter white wool as the base fabric. This is a cloak I plan to wear and use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new. But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? I don't want to harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention would be nice. Any ideas? Tayla ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] thanks for your replyes of my embroideries and prices
Hi all, Sorry that i got buisy and didnt answer all your nice replyes to the questions i gave about prices and embroidery. I suddently got an invitation for a Hunting Feast in Germany at the end of this month, and therefore got much more buisy than usual. A lady and her daughter invited me, and i have to make them embroidered purses as gifts. But worth of all i have to make myself a new suit! The party will last for 2 days, and there will be strolls in a castle wood nearby. This makes me want to bring 2 costumes with me. My blue suit for the evenings and a new one i have to make. I originally planned to embroider this fabric, but i have to cancel this. I will make it just plain with nice buttonholes. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/the_pursuit_of_fashionembroidery.htm The bottom. Ill make a pale yellow waistcoat also plain for this jacket and breeches The green taffeta is shot in green and gold. I cant wear the embroidered old suit anymore. The embroidery is compleately worned out at the innersides of the cuffs. Its the gold bullion threads, that ruined the silk embroidery threads.. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] book
Dear Kathleen, Where did you get this pinker? I would love to buy one... Thanks, Michaela - Original Message - From: Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: H-Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: [h-cost] book Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had hoped for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone fashion. Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful. It is about the size of a meat grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the spacing of the fabric being pinked. This helps the fabric to self feed as you crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines. I prepared strips of fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through the pinker in about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian cotton. The edges are somewhat feathery but uniform. Using a stiffer textile, I got the sharp zigzag one would expect. Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy. Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
It has at least as much caffeine as Coca Cola, and more sugar. I have known all-night programming/gaming types go back to the US and be unable to keep awake on Coke, having got used to Irn Bru! Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote And what is Irn Bru? Bright orange Scottish 'fruit' flavoured fizzy drink, 'made in Scotland from girders'. http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/ Debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Jean Waddie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT -- tablet
Land of Oz wrote: I've tried, but I can't think if a single way to make this costume related! Denise ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Be careful how much you eat or your costumes won't fit? ;) Jeanine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Queen Sophie's reconstructed dress
Just been surfing for information for my current project and came across this page http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/v1/person.asp?PersonID=12countryID=2PersonTypeID=2 with the portrait of Queen Sophie. Thought you might like to see it. Kelly ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
ScotchGuard the wool? Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Feb 1, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sablerose wrote: I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here. I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter white wool as the base fabric. This is a cloak I plan to wear and use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new. But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? I don't want to harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention would be nice. Any ideas? Tayla ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 18c stays
And from all the discussion, it looks like there are a variety of preferences for the boning: - cable ties - reed - metal 1/4 white steel 1/2 white steel 1/4 spiral 1/2 spiral - plastic Dritz featherboning 1/4 Rigiline 1/2 Rigiline Wissner (the German type) in several widths and thicknesses And there is another type - I remember seeing it sold by Grannd Garb. (but it sounds like this is not the ideal option, since plastic is sweaty no matter where you live). It's all sweaty. Metal does not breathe, though I suppose the spiral type is more permeable than the white steel. Rigiline is also a woven thing, but it's nylon polyester. A lot of it is a matter of body type and the amount of support wanted. They had fully-boned and half-boned stays. Half-boned will breathe more no matter what boning material is used. I never had a problem with sweaty stays - I find a linen shift underneath is quite comfy. At an outdoor event in 90 degrees, everyone is hot no matter what they are wearing. A handkerchief also keeps for sun protection. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
The best (used loosely) beverage equivalents for staying-awake purposes (at least, here in the U.S.) would be Mountain Dew, and Jolt. Jolt advertises itself as having all the sugar and twice the caffeine of regular colas. I know it kept me awake a time or two (or three...g) when I was in college. Dunno about using it for a hangover cure, though. I've been known to use a good, cold Coke Classic or two to help whomp a migraine, though --Sue - Original Message - From: Jean Waddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps? It has at least as much caffeine as Coca Cola, and more sugar. I have known all-night programming/gaming types go back to the US and be unable to keep awake on Coke, having got used to Irn Bru! Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote And what is Irn Bru? Bright orange Scottish 'fruit' flavoured fizzy drink, 'made in Scotland from girders'. http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/ Debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT
Habotai is good too - but potentially *any* strong coloured silks will run if the rain is heavy enough, as they're generally manufactured as dry clean only, so it's never intended that they'll com into contact with huge amounts of water. Debbie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: crisps?
In a message dated 2/2/06 3:01:58 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure. Jean for which it works wonderfully!! Debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: crisps
In a message dated 2/2/06 3:01:58 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The best (used loosely) beverage equivalents for staying-awake purposes (at least, here in the U.S.) would be Mountain Dew, Nigel (other half) was incredibly upset when they withdrew mountain dew over here, cos he loved it (couldn't stand it personally). But we also have red bull as a stay awake thing - fabulous since they brought in the sugar free one - but incredibly bad for you - huge quantities of caffiene, and taurine, just for that extra kick! Oh - and to bring the crisps etc thing back on topic, a friend once made a pair of trouers out of old crisp packets... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Nostalgic Needle contact and order information
Thank you for all the feedback. Creating a website for Nostalgic Needle was a bigger endeavor than I realized it would be. Sorry about the typos, bukkion, should have read bullion, The top of each page has the email address, however a contact us link is a good idea. The reason we hadn't put any links was so would not alienate any of the many shops that carry Nostalgic Needle charts. When we update will have to include a list of shops and their links. Four shops that do carry Nostalgic Needle are: _Needlework Samplers Traditional Stitches_ (http://traditionalstitches.com/) _http://www.emlis.com/nostalgic.htm_ (http://www.emlis.com/nostalgic.htm) Lucia's Needle Arts 1948 S. Main St. Mansfield, PA 16933-9700 1-888-662-7024 _www.flyingneedle.com_ (http://www.flyingneedle.com/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _www.crisscrossrow.com_ (http://www.crisscrossrow.com) Thanks again for all the responses, Ola At 5:46 PM -0500 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Ann. I used Safari on a Mac OS X and it was fine--pages loaded very quickly. The colors were quite nice for me, and the design of the pages was clear and consistent. I liked the stitch listings (is there really a stitch called bukkion, though? I'd have thought bullion, but I'm not an advanced student of embroidery! Order and contact information are really needed for this appetizing presentation. Yes, I think a bit of copy-editing is needed in a few places. I think I noticed splender (for splendor), acron (for acorn), and The inspiration for this sampler are... I gather that these kits are not available from the website directly? If they are, ordering info is definitely needed. If not, a link to some retailers who carry them would be much appreciated. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Susan Data-Samtak wrote: ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] book
This was a 'by chance' item on e-Bay. I happened to look in on a sellers other items. We have had a discussion of pinkers on the List before. There seem to be some modern repros of tools that will pink out there but they do not seem to be as convenient as this old 19th C. tool proves to be. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Michaela Feudtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] book Dear Kathleen, Where did you get this pinker? I would love to buy one... Thanks, Michaela - Original Message - From: Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: H-Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: [h-cost] book Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had hoped for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone fashion. Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful. It is about the size of a meat grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the spacing of the fabric being pinked. This helps the fabric to self feed as you crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines. I prepared strips of fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through the pinker in about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian cotton. The edges are somewhat feathery but uniform. Using a stiffer textile, I got the sharp zigzag one would expect. Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy. Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Would this also work on the wool crepe I will be using for my son's Frobisher outfit? I doubt he will be able to afford to dry clean it after every weekend at the Faire and I really doubt his skill in handwashing. --- Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan Data-Samtak wrote: ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: protecting wool
Tayla, Camp Dry might work - it's a spray which I found at Wal-Mart in the camping supplies area. I would test first on a scrap, to make sure it doesn't discolor your fabric. It worked great on a suede bomber jacket, however. Sandy At 09:00 PM 2/1/2006, you wrote: From: Sablerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Protecting wool? I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here. I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter white wool as the base fabric. This is a cloak I plan to wear and use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new. But I would like to make it even slightly stain resistant if possible? I don't want to harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention would be nice. Any ideas? Tayla Those Who Fail To Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C.Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Protecting wool?
Susan Data-Samtak and Donna wrote: ScotchGuard the wool? Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE. Is it still made? A fellow costumer thought it wasn't. Tayla ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume