Re: [h-cost] H-Cost list errors?

2006-02-01 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
I don't know if anybody else has written, but the list has been its usual 
active self, so if you still aren't receiving it there might be a problem at 
your end.


Good luck!

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Subject: [h-cost] H-Cost list errors?


I have not received mail from the list for several days now, and wanted to 
be sure that nothing had changed in my subscription.  I could resub if it's 
necessary, but wanted to check first to see what's up.


angela
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Re: [h-cost] Bodleian Corset Images, Trade Cards

2006-02-01 Thread david webb
I just realized that my bookmarks aren't working  for this site either. 
It's not the most friendly, intuitive site, but not too hostile either.


Bodacious Basic Bodliean url: http://www.rsl.ox.ac.uk/

Click on Online Catalogue and electronic resources link  (on left) 
to  get to:

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/elec-res.html

Click on John Johnson Collection to get to:
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/elec-res.html

The top of this next page will say:

The John Johnson Collection of Printed Ephemera
COPYRIGHT INFORMATION


Then you have to scroll to the very bottom of that page,

I understand that copyright in the images belongs to The Bodleian Library, 
Oxford, and I accept the conditions explained above for access to the images.


Click on the blue highlighted I accept the conditions (the  copyright 
conditions - nothing too onerous since they allow use for private study, 
the angels.


Click on Catalogue on the red window on the left-hand side to search. 
There is also and Exhibition button which is an online exhibition of some 
of the collection, broken down by various themes. I think I mostly used 
Index 5-Subjects, Trades, Products to search in, using stays or corsets 
to search in.


Have fun exploring. I'm leaving  for a conference tomorrow so I won't be 
back until the weekend. I hope that these instructions more helpful.


Sheridan



At 11:24 PM 1/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:

David? Sheridan?

I would LOVE to see the images you're talking about, but I can't figure out
how to use the system.  Could you be a little more specific?  Thank you!

Martha


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Re: [h-cost] OT -- tablet

2006-02-01 Thread Joan Jurancich

At 02:56 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote:


Tablet is a pure sugar rush - My Mom
used to make it when we were kids and we called it fried fudge.  Had no
idea it was called butter tablet elsewhere.


I am very intrigued by this. Google is my friend:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/scruss/tablet.html

clear, step by step directions. Doesn't seem difficult, but it does 
sound tasty.


I've tried, but I can't think if a single way to make this costume related!
Denise


You need an apron =-O!


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[h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories

2006-02-01 Thread WickedFrau

Tania, you might want to ask Bjarne...he'd probably know.
Sg
Tania Gruning wrote:


   Hiya all.
  
 I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking for the 16'th century.
  
 Tania




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Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories

2006-02-01 Thread Heather Rose Jones

On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Joan Jurancich wrote:


At 04:44 AM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms?
[snip]


It just means that the inventory of the wardrobe still exists.  We  
don't have very many extant (i.e., surviving) clothing pieces.


It depends on what you mean by very many.  Compared to how many  
were made and worn--no.  Compared to how many people _think_ are  
still extant -- you might be surprised.  (I know I have been.)


Heather

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Re: [h-cost] Re: 18c stays

2006-02-01 Thread Kristin
Okay, this is overwhelming!

So, basically, there are two easy patterns out there:  JP Ryan and
Butterick.

And from all the discussion, it looks like there are a variety of
preferences for the boning:

- cable ties
- reed
- metal
- plastic (but it sounds like this is not the ideal option, since plastic is
sweaty no matter where you live).

Well, I guess as I work on finishing the current garment, I'll start
planning for the corset... at least the first one.  At this point, I suppose
I'm just making a costume, but as I continue and learn, I'll be able
to construct things a little more authentically.

Our winter in Eastern PA has been fairly mild... it actually hit the 60's
this week!

Kristin

On 1/31/06, Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Mia,

 The petticoat is cotton, but with a nice sateen to it. I thought it would
 at least imitate the look of silk to a certain extent.

 I'd really like to have a more authentic pair of stays before starting a
 second outfit. I've been thinking about trying to draft my own pattern -
 but haven't been really sure where to start. The other question, is
 whether
 to use the plastic boning, or go the metal route... and then which type...
 and how does one get the right sizes? Tin-snips? I've already purchased a
 yard of duck-cloth, and a couple of yards of cotton twill in white and
 red.

 I'm just doing this to do it. I suppose I could use it for halloween next
 year... although a couple people have suggested using it as a wedding
 dress. I made my own dress for my first marriage, so I've been trying to
 avoid thinking about the possibility of making another one... although I
 do
 have about 10 yards of some gorgeous white cotton damask. Hmmm... a
 sacque? I suppose, once I get more comfortable making several items, I may
 risk making something out of silk... but until then, I'll stick with
 what's
 affordable.

 Kristin


 Oh stays..., I've done several, but since I'm an active reenactor, and
 trying to progress to a more authentic reenactor, my solutions, might not be
 your solutions.
 Like I said, the butterick pattern seems to be good, especially for 3rd
 quarter or so 18th c. Making 18c stays is not as hard as one might
 think.  just somewhat time consuming.  And I always have challenges with the
 fit. For the stays I've done I've,
 1.  used the J.P Ryan patterns (very nice- and gives that good ice cream
 cone shape.)  I used metal and cable ties and that stringy box binding stuff
 that is almost like whale bone...this is not a good description, but I
 really don't know how to do better.  These were really nice.
 2.  used the later 18c pattern from Hunnicut,  and blew it up on a copy
 machine.  these were nice too.  I used basket cane and metal bones at the
 stress points.  These were nice too
 3.  Back to JP Ryan for the pattern, bound in leather, wool covered, fully
 boned, cable ties and metal in stress points, cane everywhere else.  They
 are really beautiful.
 3.  on the table to do now.  the butterick pattern, cut out in linen, will
 be halfboned with ?

 All done on the machine

 For me basket caning works, but i am frequently out in the heat of a North
 Carolina Summer.  Anything Plastic just doesn't breathe enough for me.  I've
 never had a piece of cane break.  and boy does it support!!

 Choice of patterns ...JP Ryan is good, the butterick is good.  I don't
 have the skills to draft one from scratch and have it come out looking like
 I want it to.

 Again all these choices are based on where you are wearing it, and what
 you want it for.  Costume and just for fun has different needs than
 reenactor and museum work.

 18c Mia in Charlotte, NC  where there is no sign of winter.  Boy i'm not
 looking forward to another hot summer... gotta get those linen stays done.




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Re: [h-cost] re: costume experts

2006-02-01 Thread WickedFrau
I would consider Robert  Trump to be an expert BTW.  He is with the St. 
Louis Opera still I believe.


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[h-cost] Paying for color copies: was 16th Century Nationality Dress Characteristics...long

2006-02-01 Thread WickedFrau



Just out of curiousity, how much did the color copy cost?  Always
looking for cool color pictures -- especially of embroidery!


I have paid up to $100 for a color reprint.  That was of a painting not 
currently on exhibit (in America) , and supposedly the museum did not 
have a color copy (which I think was probably BS).  I have paid £10 for 
a black and white reprint, and the least I have paid is for a color 
transparency is  £35.  The latter was a rental and is like a large 
slide.  Shipping and handling is extra and is about £6 in each of those 
cases.  I was allowed to make a copy for the purposes of the slide show.


The biggest hindrance is having a legitimate reason for wanting one.  
Fortunately I was in graduate school this past year doing research so I 
didn't have to fib about that, and since I was doing a presentation at 
the Phoenix Art Museum, they seemed to accept that.  But I had to 
explain all that.  I wouldn't let it inhibit you...all they can say is 
no. Surprisingly enough, if you can find a postcard of the painting 
those scan very well,  (I think the detail on a least one I got was 
better than some of the detail on the transparencies I have received.) 
and I have had some places send those to me gratis...they even paid 
postage!  I asked for a more detailed, higher resolution for a painting 
on IMAREAL and they sent that to me, no questions asked, on a CD!


Good point about Anguissolathat would be a good comparison to see if 
I could find a match..  I have responded to the list since I had 
multiple inquiries about the same thing


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[h-cost] History of the Parasol

2006-02-01 Thread mlysett
Hi all,

I've recently written an article on the history of the parasol through
the 16th and early 17th centuries.  

Over the last 4 or 5 years, reenactors and faire people have repeatedly
told me parasols aren’t period.  I've had the evidence to support
their use for at least as long, but I finally decided to make a formal
article about it.  

Although I am selling items elsewhere on this site, my goal with this
article wasn't to sell more, but to provide reenactors with the
evidence to dispel this particular myth.  So, I invite anyone
interested to have a look.  You may check out the article at
http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/parasolhist.html.

I will be forwarding this article to several lists during the next few
days, so I apologize if you receive this several times. 

I hope you all enjoy,
Margaret Roe


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Re: [h-cost] History of the Parasol

2006-02-01 Thread Kate M Bunting
Fascinating article, Margaret! Your parasols look great.

One minor point; Sir Henry Unton would be referred to as Sir Henry, not Sir 
Unton. ( Sir is never used with the family name alone. I suppose knighthood 
existed before surnames were established.)


Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor


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Re: [h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories

2006-02-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi,
Rigsarkivet has some i know. For instance the whole portefeuille that went 
to Sweden when Sophia Magdalena married Gustav III in Sweden 1766. Her whole 
wardrobe is there documented. I dont know how far back they go though, but i 
believe i have read refferences to renaissance inventories in the danish 
book called Dagligliv i Norden i det 16. år. Af Troels Lund.

Sorry for being late, ben buisy embroidering :-)

Bjarne

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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:26 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Danish Noble extant wardrobe inventories



Tania, you might want to ask Bjarne...he'd probably know.
Sg
Tania Gruning wrote:


   Hiya all.
  I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories 
that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could 
be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking for the 16'th 
century.

  Tania


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Re: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again

2006-02-01 Thread Joannah Hansen
--- Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm bracing myself to do yet another corset with tabs.  This time I would
like to use something besides steel because the steels that go down into the
tabs from the corset itself tend to bend and stay bent.  Besides, they are
expensive.

I happen to have some real whale bone, both as stay size pieces and as an
entire frond.  The young man who gave me the stays told me don't ask, but
I suspect they came from Japan.  The small frond I got on E-Bay and came
with a certificate that it was gotten pre-ban and legally. I got it
mainly so I could have something to show when teaching.

Problem is that once you have handled the real thing you aren't going to
be impressed with cable ties as a substitute.  So reeds/broom straw seems a
better answer.

I know that several people have used reed successfully.  How big?  Where did
you get it?  Either this or maybe a nice broom and lots of quilting thread?

I did check the archives, but didn't see exactly what I was looking for.  Do
I want 1/4 oval, 1.5mm round reed, 1mm round reed?  Broom?

One reason I particularly want a new corset is because I have done something
to my back.  On 12th night I knew I was going to be wearing a 35 pound
houpeland (BIG Sleeves, Velvet lined with light weight wool, full circle)
and was willing to bet my back was not going to be happy.  I put on my Tudor
corset made from the corset generator pattern with added tabs and was
comfortable for 18 hours!  I'm beginning to think this is what I want for
work as well.  I'm pleasingly plump ;-) and a B cup but I have _hips_ (bum
roll?  what bum roll?) so the tiny waist immediately flairs out to quite
substantial hips (weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.)  This means
that the tabs are a point of considerable strain for any stiffening.

Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey

Wanda,

My effigy-style corset is boned with broomstraw which is astonishingly rigid, 
but with a little bit of flex. I can't bend over in it, though. The broomstraw 
isn't millet straw, but something called 'Darwin fibre' - unfortunately the 
broom company from which I got it has gone out of business. ( I got some millet 
straw, but I didn't think it would be strong enough. Nor was it long enough. 
The Darwin fibre looks very much like the reeds/bents in one of the stomachers 
in Janet Arnold's PoF, I  can't remember which one, offhand. ) The straws are 
approx. 1mm diameter, with I think somewhere between 10 and 20 straws on 
average going into each channel. The channels are the width of half of the 
presser foot on my sewing machine - approx. 5-6mm wide. 

The straws extend down into the tabs, and so far are holding up well to the 
strain: I have your problem - bumroll, what bumroll? The tabs don't actually 
flare that acutely - they sort of smooth things out.

The other thing which I have used successfully in the same style corset is hemp 
cord, the same as on this page:

http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/cording/cord.html

The good thing about the hemp cord is that it allows complete freedom of 
movement, while providing excellent support. On of my friends whose corset is 
boned with hemp cord has actually slept in it. ( I can lie down in my 
straw-boned corset, but it's not really the most comfortable thing to do. ) My 
next corset is going to be done with hemp cord - I need to be able to move in 
camp.

Hope this helps.

Joannah. 



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Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories

2006-02-01 Thread Nancy Kiel
How about approaching the fashion magazines, sewing magazines, or big design 
houses with a proposal?  Or museums?


Nancy Kiel
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Never tease a weasel!
This is very good advice.
For the weasel will not like it
And teasing isn't nice.





From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:44:59 -0600 (CST)

(He developed a
reasonable familiarity with costume terms because of the nature of that
work, but I would guess costume research doesn't pay the bills the way
family history or heraldic research does.)

--Robin

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[h-cost] Re: the virgin queen

2006-02-01 Thread katherine sanders
Watched Episode 2 last night. The men's a
anachronistic breeches were more obvious this week 
(though I liked the tennis scenes), and, as someone
commented, the women's skirts don't look as though
they have enough support (perhaps the designers
thought that farthingales would look as odd  to
modern eyes as they thought trunk-hose would).
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor

I know. I don't think I can watch it any more, it's
just annoying me EVERY time I see them supposedly
being regal and just looking floppy (skirted)... Mind
you, Kevin McKidd looked mighty fine playing real
tennis :-) so it's not all bad!!

Katherine the not easily pleased.



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[h-cost] inventories o/t Queen Sofie

2006-02-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
There is an exhibition at Kronborg Castle in North Sealand, Denmark about 
the wedding of Frederik II and Sofie, his queen to be.
They reconstrukted her weddingdress, and this link only shows a poor picture 
of it.

Its after a portrait, and i think they did a very fine job.
http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100
Sofie came from Germany and became queen in Denmark.

Bjarne





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[h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie

2006-02-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi sorry.
There are more pictures of the dress if you go to:
http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100
Scroll down and there are 2 links written in blue.
The first gives pictures of the opening of the exhibition with pictures of 
the dress,  the second link is a windows movieclip about the wedding..


Bjarne





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Re: [h-cost] What to do with old clothes

2006-02-01 Thread Susan Data-Samtak

Thanks for the info.  Interesting...

Other old clothes can be recycled by dropping them off at Animal 
Shelters to be used as rags or bedding for the shelter animals.  
Stained and raggy towels and other textiles are also useful to the 
shelters.


Susan

Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for.  - Ride the Dark
Trail by Louis L'Amour

On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Cin wrote:


Better than donations to charity, more value-add than quilting from
clothing scraps, launch your suit into orbit! This fabulous news from
spaceweather.com

SUITSAT:  On February 3rd, astronauts plan to hurl an old spacesuit
overboard from the International Space Station.  The disembodied suit,
nicknamed SuitSat, will proceed to circle Earth, transmitting a
radio message which anyone can hear using a police scanner or a ham
radio tuned to 145.990 MHz FM.  This strange experiment is a test of a
sensible idea--that old spacesuits might be transformed into useful
satellites.

--cin
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Re: [h-cost] History of the Parasol

2006-02-01 Thread ruthanneb
REALLY interesting article!
Two little nits--when you mention parare, to shield in the etymology of 
parasol, you should also mention sol, sun.
And please, in possessive form of it, NO apostrophe.
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy (English) and amateur costumer

-Original Message-
From: mlysett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 31, 2006 10:27 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] History of the Parasol

Hi all,

I've recently written an article on the history of the parasol through
the 16th and early 17th centuries.  

Over the last 4 or 5 years, reenactors and faire people have repeatedly
told me parasols aren’t period.  I've had the evidence to support
their use for at least as long, but I finally decided to make a formal
article about it.  

Although I am selling items elsewhere on this site, my goal with this
article wasn't to sell more, but to provide reenactors with the
evidence to dispel this particular myth.  So, I invite anyone
interested to have a look.  You may check out the article at
http://www.margaretroedesigns.com/parasolhist.html.

I will be forwarding this article to several lists during the next few
days, so I apologize if you receive this several times. 

I hope you all enjoy,
Margaret Roe


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Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie

2006-02-01 Thread ruthanneb
She looks beautiful--so simple and elegant. What are the fabrics, do you know?
Thanks!
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer

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From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 1, 2006 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie

Hi sorry.
There are more pictures of the dress if you go to:
http://www.ses.dk/58000a/GSID/661100
Scroll down and there are 2 links written in blue.
The first gives pictures of the opening of the exhibition with pictures of 
the dress,  the second link is a windows movieclip about the wedding..

Bjarne





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[h-cost] book

2006-02-01 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had hoped 
for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone fashion.

Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful.  It is about the size of a meat 
grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the spacing 
of the fabric being pinked.  This helps the fabric to self feed as you 
crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines.  I prepared strips of 
fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through the pinker in 
about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian cotton.  The edges 
are somewhat feathery but uniform.  Using a stiffer textile, I got the sharp 
zigzag one would expect.

Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy.
Kathleen
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Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie

2006-02-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews


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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] wedding dress of prinsesse Sofie


She looks beautiful--so simple and elegant. What are the fabrics, do you 
know?

Thanks!
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer



Hi,
I have not gone to se it yeat, but my guess is that it is made of red velvet 
with gold.

The sleaves and the underdress i dont know!
There is a portrait of her in that dress, but it only shows a little of the 
gown.
She was the mother of our later king Christian IV, who builded many castles 
in Denmark. There is a saying about her birth of Christian. It was a very 
hot summers day, and she had ordered herself and some maids over to a little 
island lying just besides the Frederiksborg Castle. She came into labours, 
and gave birth to Christian there on the island.


Bjarne 



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RE: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT

2006-02-01 Thread otsisto
So your experience with noil is that it isn't a sturdy fabric?

De

-Original Message-
I am looking for a light weight material to make a banner.
 I have been recommended Silk Noil as a possible fabric.
 How sturdy is silk noil

Not very. If you're going to use noil, you might as well use 100% cotton.


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Re: [h-cost] What to do with old clothes

2006-02-01 Thread Jeanine E. Swick
I'll pass this along to some of the ham radio people I know.  Actually 
I'll get my husband to put it in the next issue of our radio club's 
newsletter (he's the editor).


Jeanine
n1qit


Cin wrote:


Better than donations to charity, more value-add than quilting from
clothing scraps, launch your suit into orbit! This fabulous news from
spaceweather.com

SUITSAT:  On February 3rd, astronauts plan to hurl an old spacesuit
overboard from the International Space Station.  The disembodied suit,
nicknamed SuitSat, will proceed to circle Earth, transmitting a
radio message which anyone can hear using a police scanner or a ham
radio tuned to 145.990 MHz FM.  This strange experiment is a test of a
sensible idea--that old spacesuits might be transformed into useful
satellites.

--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT

2006-02-01 Thread Sablerose
For garmets I've found noil to be very sturdy, but the edges to have to be 
carefully finished.  However, I would not recommend using it for a banner. 
It doesn't look like silk.  It looks like slubby linen. Also, it is not 
color fast and will continue to shed dye every time you wash it.  The cream 
noil lining of my green  blue noil dress is definitely now pale teal.  If 
you're using high contrast colors, they will likely bleed on each other if 
it gets wet.


You can get much lighter silks for probably about the same price.  A friend 
who does silk dyed banners recommends Habotai.  Check Dharma Traders.


Tayla


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To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT



So your experience with noil is that it isn't a sturdy fabric?

De

-Original Message-

I am looking for a light weight material to make a banner.
I have been recommended Silk Noil as a possible fabric.
How sturdy is silk noil


Not very. If you're going to use noil, you might as well use 100% cotton.


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[h-cost] Protecting wool?

2006-02-01 Thread Sablerose
I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here.

I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter white wool 
as the base fabric.  This is a cloak I plan to wear and use, so I'm not expect 
it to stay good as new.  But I would like to make it even slightly stain 
resistant if possible?  I don't want to harm the characteristics of the wool, 
but a little stain prevention would be nice.  Any ideas?

Tayla
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[h-cost] thanks for your replyes of my embroideries and prices

2006-02-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi all,
Sorry that i got buisy and didnt answer all your nice replyes to the 
questions i gave about prices and embroidery.
I suddently got an invitation for a Hunting Feast in Germany at the end of 
this month, and therefore got much more buisy than usual.
A lady and her daughter invited me, and i have to make them embroidered 
purses as gifts.

But worth of all i have to make myself a new suit!
The party will last for 2 days, and there will be strolls in a castle wood 
nearby. This makes me want to bring 2 costumes with me. My blue suit for the 
evenings and a new one i have to make. I originally planned to embroider 
this fabric, but i have to cancel this. I will make it just plain with nice 
buttonholes.

http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/the_pursuit_of_fashionembroidery.htm
The bottom.
Ill make a pale yellow waistcoat also plain for this jacket and 
breeches

The green taffeta is shot in green and gold.
I cant wear the embroidered old suit anymore. The embroidery is compleately 
worned out at the innersides of the cuffs. Its the gold bullion threads, 
that ruined the silk embroidery threads..


Bjarne






Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostumes.dk

http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ 



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Re: [h-cost] book

2006-02-01 Thread Michaela Feudtner
Dear Kathleen,

Where did you get this pinker? I would love to buy one...

Thanks,
Michaela
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To: H-Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:19 PM
Subject: [h-cost] book


Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had
hoped for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone
fashion.

Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful.  It is about the size of a meat
grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the
spacing of the fabric being pinked.  This helps the fabric to self feed as
you crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines.  I prepared
strips of fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through
the pinker in about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian
cotton.  The edges are somewhat feathery but uniform.  Using a stiffer
textile, I got the sharp zigzag one would expect.

Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy.
Kathleen
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Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?

2006-02-01 Thread Jean Waddie
It has at least as much caffeine as Coca Cola, and more sugar.  I have 
known all-night programming/gaming types go back to the US and be unable 
to keep awake on Coke, having got used to Irn Bru!


Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure.

Jean


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote


And what is Irn Bru?

Bright orange Scottish 'fruit' flavoured fizzy drink, 'made in Scotland from
girders'.

http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/

Debs
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Re: [h-cost] OT -- tablet

2006-02-01 Thread Jeanine E. Swick

Land of Oz wrote:

I've tried, but I can't think if a single way to make this costume 
related!

Denise
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Be careful how much you eat or your costumes won't fit?  ;) 


Jeanine

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[h-cost] Queen Sophie's reconstructed dress

2006-02-01 Thread kelly grant
Just been surfing for information for my current project and came across 
this page

http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/v1/person.asp?PersonID=12countryID=2PersonTypeID=2

with the portrait of Queen Sophie.

Thought you might like to see it.
Kelly 
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Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?

2006-02-01 Thread Susan Data-Samtak

ScotchGuard the wool?

Susan

Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for.  - Ride the Dark
Trail by Louis L'Amour

On Feb 1, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sablerose wrote:


I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here.

I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter 
white wool as the base fabric.  This is a cloak I plan to wear and 
use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new.  But I would like to 
make it even slightly stain resistant if possible?  I don't want to 
harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention 
would be nice.  Any ideas?


Tayla
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Re: [h-cost] Re: 18c stays

2006-02-01 Thread Carol Kocian

And from all the discussion, it looks like there are a variety of
preferences for the boning:

- cable ties
- reed
- metal


1/4 white steel
1/2 white steel
1/4 spiral
1/2 spiral


- plastic


Dritz featherboning
1/4 Rigiline
1/2 Rigiline
Wissner (the German type) in several widths and thicknesses
And there is another type - I remember seeing it sold by Grannd Garb.

(but it sounds like this is not the ideal option, since plastic is 
sweaty no matter where you live).


 It's all sweaty.  Metal does not breathe, though I suppose the 
spiral type is more permeable than the white steel.  Rigiline is also 
a woven thing, but it's nylon  polyester.


 A lot of it is a matter of body type and the amount of support 
wanted.  They had fully-boned and half-boned stays.  Half-boned will 
breathe more no matter what boning material is used.


 I never had a problem with sweaty stays - I find a linen shift 
underneath is quite comfy.  At an outdoor event in 90 degrees, 
everyone is hot no matter what they are wearing.  A handkerchief also 
keeps for sun protection.


 -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?

2006-02-01 Thread Sue Clemenger
The best (used loosely) beverage equivalents for staying-awake purposes (at
least, here in the U.S.) would be Mountain Dew, and Jolt.  Jolt advertises
itself as having all the sugar and twice the caffeine of regular colas.  I
know it kept me awake a time or two (or three...g) when I was in college.
Dunno about using it for a hangover cure, though.  I've been known to use a
good, cold Coke Classic or two to help whomp a migraine, though
--Sue

- Original Message -
From: Jean Waddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?


 It has at least as much caffeine as Coca Cola, and more sugar.  I have
 known all-night programming/gaming types go back to the US and be unable
 to keep awake on Coke, having got used to Irn Bru!

 Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure.

 Jean


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
 And what is Irn Bru?
 
 Bright orange Scottish 'fruit' flavoured fizzy drink, 'made in Scotland
from
 girders'.
 
 http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/
 
 Debs


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Re: [h-cost] Fabric question SOT

2006-02-01 Thread Debloughcostumes
Habotai is good too - but potentially *any* strong coloured silks will run if 
the rain is heavy enough, as they're generally manufactured as dry clean 
only, so it's never intended that they'll com into contact with huge amounts of 
water.

Debbie

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[h-cost] Re: crisps?

2006-02-01 Thread Debloughcostumes
In a message dated 2/2/06 3:01:58 AM GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also recommended in Scotland as a hangover cure.
 
 Jean

for which it works wonderfully!!

Debs
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[h-cost] Re: crisps

2006-02-01 Thread Debloughcostumes
In a message dated 2/2/06 3:01:58 AM GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The best (used loosely) beverage equivalents for staying-awake purposes (at
 least, here in the U.S.) would be Mountain Dew,

Nigel (other half) was incredibly upset when they withdrew mountain dew over 
here, cos he loved it (couldn't stand it personally).

But we also have red bull as a stay awake thing - fabulous since they brought 
in the sugar free one - but incredibly bad for you - huge quantities of 
caffiene, and taurine, just for that extra kick!

Oh - and to bring the crisps etc thing back on topic, a friend once made a 
pair of trouers out of old crisp packets...
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[h-cost] Nostalgic Needle contact and order information

2006-02-01 Thread NostalgicNeedle
 
 
Thank you for all the feedback. Creating a website for  Nostalgic Needle was 
a bigger endeavor than I realized it would be. 
 
Sorry about the typos, bukkion, should have  read bullion, 
 
The top of each page has the email address, however a  contact us link is a 
good idea.
 
The reason we hadn't put any links was so would not alienate  any of the many 
shops that carry Nostalgic Needle charts. When we update  will have to 
include a list of shops and their links. Four shops that do carry  Nostalgic 
Needle 
are:
 
_Needlework Samplers Traditional  Stitches_ (http://traditionalstitches.com/) 
 
 
_http://www.emlis.com/nostalgic.htm_ (http://www.emlis.com/nostalgic.htm)   
 
Lucia's Needle Arts
1948 S. Main St.
Mansfield, PA  16933-9700
1-888-662-7024
_www.flyingneedle.com_ (http://www.flyingneedle.com/) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 


_www.crisscrossrow.com_ (http://www.crisscrossrow.com) 
Thanks again for all  the responses, 
Ola
 
At 5:46 PM -0500 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree  with Ann. I used Safari on a Mac OS X and it was fine--pages 
loaded very  quickly. The colors were quite nice for me, and the 
design of the pages  was clear and consistent. I liked the stitch 
listings (is there really a  stitch called bukkion, though? I'd 
have thought bullion, but I'm not  an advanced student of 
embroidery!
Order and contact information  are really needed for this appetizing 
presentation.

Yes, I think  a bit of copy-editing is needed in a few places. I think 
I noticed  splender (for splendor), acron (for acorn), and The 
inspiration for  this sampler are...

I gather that these kits are not available from the  website directly? 
If they are, ordering info is definitely needed. If not, a  link to 
some retailers who carry them would be much  appreciated.

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Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?

2006-02-01 Thread Dawn

Susan Data-Samtak wrote:


ScotchGuard the wool?



Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE.



Dawn



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Re: [h-cost] book

2006-02-01 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
This was a 'by chance' item on e-Bay. I happened to look in on a sellers
other items. We have had a discussion of pinkers on the List before.  There
seem to be some modern repros of tools that will pink out there but they
do not seem to be as convenient as this old 19th C. tool proves to be.

Kathleen
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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] book


 Dear Kathleen,

 Where did you get this pinker? I would love to buy one...

 Thanks,
 Michaela
 - Original Message -
 From: Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: H-Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:19 PM
 Subject: [h-cost] book


 Hi all, I just got my copy of Petite Dames du Mode and it is all I had
 hoped for. It sure is inspiring for attempts of replication of by gone
 fashion.

 Also, my small crank pinker is Wonderful.  It is about the size of a meat
 grinder that screws on to the table. There is a thumbnail guide re the
 spacing of the fabric being pinked.  This helps the fabric to self feed as
 you crank...in the like manner of the early sewing machines.  I prepared
 strips of fabric the other eve to be rusched and ran about 4 yards through
 the pinker in about 2 min. The fabric I was using was a very soft Egyptian
 cotton.  The edges are somewhat feathery but uniform.  Using a stiffer
 textile, I got the sharp zigzag one would expect.

 Martha Washington's Robe Anglais is looking very spiffy.
 Kathleen
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Re: [h-cost] Protecting wool?

2006-02-01 Thread REBECCA BURCH
Would this also work on the wool crepe I will be using
for my son's Frobisher outfit?  I doubt he will be
able to afford to dry clean it after every weekend at
the Faire and I really doubt his skill in handwashing.

--- Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Susan Data-Samtak wrote:
 
  ScotchGuard the wool?
  
 
 Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew
 anually. Spray OUTSIDE.
 
 
 
 Dawn
 
 
 
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[h-cost] Re: protecting wool

2006-02-01 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger

Tayla,

Camp Dry might work - it's a spray which I found at Wal-Mart in the 
camping supplies area.  I would test first on a scrap, to make sure 
it doesn't discolor your fabric.  It worked great on a suede bomber 
jacket, however.


Sandy

At 09:00 PM 2/1/2006, you wrote:

From: Sablerose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] Protecting wool?

I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can come to my rescue here.

I'm putting together a heraldic cloak using a blanket weight winter 
white wool as the base fabric.  This is a cloak I plan to wear and 
use, so I'm not expect it to stay good as new.  But I would like to 
make it even slightly stain resistant if possible?  I don't want to 
harm the characteristics of the wool, but a little stain prevention 
would be nice.  Any ideas?


Tayla


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Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly --
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

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RE: [h-cost] Protecting wool?

2006-02-01 Thread Sablerose
Susan Data-Samtak and Donna wrote:

 ScotchGuard the wool?
 

Yup, especially the hems and shoulders. Renew anually. Spray OUTSIDE.

Is it still made?  A fellow costumer thought it wasn't. 

Tayla



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