Re: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion
A sloper is the basic pattern from which other patterns are designed. (http://www.sew-whats-new.com/sewinglessons/sloper.shtml) It's also sometimes called the basic body block. A discussion of them can be found here - http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00036.asp . Slopers of various sorts can be used for a wide variety of clothing types. Certain corset patterns can be made using the standard two-dart sloper, which is probably why it was suggested. Darts would have to be split and pivoted, but that's not terribly difficult. Some of the pattern companies make patterns for the "basic sloper", although they may not call them that. Those patterns typically include instructions for fitting the sloper properly. There's a lot of fitting and re-fitting involved. If you've got a sewing group anywhere near you, Coni Almaden-Crawford gives lectures on how to make and use slopers; her schedule is posted here: http://www.fashionpatterns.com/schedule.html Roger Becky wrote: New term for me... what's a sloper? - Original Message - From: "SPaterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion Have you tried using your own basic block (sloper)as the basis for the corset and drawing in the corset lines as applicable - (yes, there is more to this process than just drawing in the lines, there is dart manipulation and taking off the required amounts to change the shape..etc) I can imagine you are frustrated trying to take a corset for an unknown shape & size and alter it for your own...I know I wouldn't be bothered... I'd rather manipulate my own shape to achieve the correct corset. Just a suggestion Sarah Paterson - Original Message - I was looking at this website to find out the price of custom made corsets, as I'm getting tired of the number of times I've needed to alter the corset pattern I'm currently working on (the 1844 corset in Corsets and Crinolines, the bust is way too big & I'm on my third round of alterations to reduce it) I can't afford to buy a corset, > Elizabeth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Florida
Wednesday, I am heading to Florida for two weeks. We will be in the Bradenton/Sarasota area, south of the Tampa Bay. My youngest sister is getting married. This will also be a working vacation for me. I am hoping to do some research about circus costumes at the Ringling Museum. My Dad was in the Barnum & Bailey/Ringling Bros. Circus from the 1920s-early 1940s. My oldest brother has a album of circus photos from the 1940s. He is hoping to bring them with him to Florida. If he does, he said I could scan them. My oldest sister and brother, and their parents, traveled with the circus when they were little. We are also hoping to go to Ft. Lauderdale to see the King Tut exhibit. Are there any other costume exhibits that I should see in this part of Florida? Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion
New term for me... what's a sloper? - Original Message - From: "SPaterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: [h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion Have you tried using your own basic block (sloper)as the basis for the corset and drawing in the corset lines as applicable - (yes, there is more to this process than just drawing in the lines, there is dart manipulation and taking off the required amounts to change the shape..etc) I can imagine you are frustrated trying to take a corset for an unknown shape & size and alter it for your own...I know I wouldn't be bothered... I'd rather manipulate my own shape to achieve the correct corset. Just a suggestion Sarah Paterson - Original Message - I was looking at this website to find out the price of custom made corsets, as I'm getting tired of the number of times I've needed to alter the corset pattern I'm currently working on (the 1844 corset in Corsets and Crinolines, the bust is way too big & I'm on my third round of alterations to reduce it) I can't afford to buy a corset, > Elizabeth ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth sleeves
I live near Harrisburg, in Enola. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth sleeves Where are you located?? I have a copy of the book and might be willing to loan it out. Katheryne central-eastern NJ - Original Message - From: Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have ordered that book but it has not arrived yet. YET!!! I'm still waiting and waiting. I wish it would get here so I can stay working on the costume. I've heard it was a good book and ordered it. If I'm going to be creating costumes from this era, I' need all the documentation I can get. I have both Arnold books but nothing on these sleeves. I borrowed the QE1Unlocked. It was a great book for the details but nothing on these sleeves. I'm researching it as best I can. Thanks for all the help form the list members. - Original Message - From: "Abel, Cynthia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Try finding a copy of Jean Hunnisett's "Period Costume for Stage and > Screen-1500-1800" Inside is not only a scale pattern of the > oversleeve(cut on the bias), but two variations of the undersleeve as well. The so-called "Jane Grey" sleeve, based on a portrait of Jane > Grey, recently reidentified as Queen Catheryn Parr, is just about > identical to the "Princess Elizabeth" portrait. > Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Corset cutting suggestion
Have you tried using your own basic block (sloper)as the basis for the corset and drawing in the corset lines as applicable - (yes, there is more to this process than just drawing in the lines, there is dart manipulation and taking off the required amounts to change the shape..etc) I can imagine you are frustrated trying to take a corset for an unknown shape & size and alter it for your own...I know I wouldn't be bothered... I'd rather manipulate my own shape to achieve the correct corset. Just a suggestion Sarah Paterson - Original Message - I was looking at this website to find out the price of custom made corsets, as I'm getting tired of the number of times I've needed to alter the corset pattern I'm currently working on (the 1844 corset in Corsets and Crinolines, the bust is way too big & I'm on my third round of alterations to reduce it) I can't afford to buy a corset, > Elizabeth ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Neat corset lacing assistant
I was looking at this website to find out the price of custom made corsets, as I'm getting tired of the number of times I've needed to alter the corset pattern I'm currently working on (the 1844 corset in Corsets and Crinolines, the bust is way too big & I'm on my third round of alterations to reduce it) I can't afford to buy a corset, but I came across this nifty little tool for preventing the corset laces from slipping when you're lacing it up http://romantasyweb.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=lst&Category_Code=HA They are selling it but it's really simple and could easily be reproduced at home even if you don't have much in the way of tools. All you'd really need is 2 pieces of dowel with holes drilled for the cords and the hook. If you know somebody who does woodwork you could probably make this out of their scraps. This wouldn't work as well for pre 19th century corsets as they have a lace that runs from the top and ends at the waist so you don't have a loop, but it would certainly save some time (I knot the end of my laces to avoid slipping while I'm tightening but having the tension constantly held would save the time of making the knot and then undoing it to re-knot it at the new tension) Elizabeth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth sleeves
Where are you located?? I have a copy of the book and might be willing to loan it out. Katheryne central-eastern NJ - Original Message - From: Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have ordered that book but it has not arrived yet. YET!!! I'm > still waiting and waiting. I wish it would get here so I can stay > working on the > costume. I've heard it was a good book and ordered it. If I'm > going to be creating costumes from this era, I' need all the documentation I > can get. I have both Arnold books but nothing on these sleeves. I borrowed > the QE1Unlocked. It was a great book for the details but nothing on > these sleeves. I'm researching it as best I can. > Thanks for all the help form the list members. > - Original Message - > From: "Abel, Cynthia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Try finding a copy of Jean Hunnisett's "Period Costume for Stage and > > Screen-1500-1800" Inside is not only a scale pattern of the > > oversleeve(cut on the bias), but two variations of the > undersleeve as well. The so-called "Jane Grey" sleeve, based on a portrait > of Jane > > Grey, recently reidentified as Queen Catheryn Parr, is just about > > identical to the "Princess Elizabeth" portrait. > > Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: arsenic
That is actually an old horsecopers trick. You give the horse a small amount of arsenic everyday untill you are ready to sell it. The ´horse will react to the arsenic by getting fat and the skin will get glossy, once the horse is sold the horse will lose weight and the arsenic stored in the fat will be released into the body causing death. Tania Gail & Scott Finke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It does stay in the body, that's how they test for it. I read a murder mystery once based on the idea that if you feed someone small bits of arsenic every day, they die if you withhold it! I don't know if that one is true or not. Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] swaddling bands
Thank you!! These are Perfect!!! Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] swaddling bands Quoting monica spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi All-- > I am looking for pictures of babies in swaddling bands. Does anyone have > Federigo Barocci painting of "Prince Federigo of Urbino as a Baby" (also > known as "Prince Federigo of Urbino in his Cradle". It was painted circa > 1605 and is supposed to be in the Pitti Palace in Florence. I've got that one -- he's actually not swaddled. I've another by Titi that *does* show a baby swaddled. I scanned both of these from Thornton's Italian Renaissance Interiors. http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/barocci_UrbinoPrince-thorntonFig8 6-sm.jpg http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/titi_MediciPrince_thorntonFig87-s m.jpg Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
