Re: [h-cost] swaddling bands
Monica, presumably you know the Georges de la Tour painting Le nouveau-ne? Can only find a rather poor version on the Web http://www.isabel.com/gallery/reprofr/l/latour/index.html Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Venetian research question - need help
Lovely work Kathy, thank you. Sg Kathy Page wrote: Hi Rachel, welcome to the list. :-) http://outoftheattic.homeip.net/Venetian_Masks.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org I did not make clothes for the two portly gentlemen, nor the lady top right picture, and bottom left figure, but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and otherwise known as knickers, briefs, panties stockings, hose or shoes etc!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:38:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and Most impression. When do you sleep? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
Gorgeous! Thanks for sharing!!! Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:38:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and Most impression. When do you sleep? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
Suzi Clarke wrote: If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org Wow--that's all I can say--wow! - Hope ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
As if anyone was not interrested? You must be joking! What lovely costumes, thanks for sharing. I absolutely wont come with any critisism at all, but why does the gentlemen not button the bottom of their waistcoats? I think i recognise one of the ladies, i have seen at the ball in Bath, could this be right? Thanks and you should be proud Bjarne - Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org I did not make clothes for the two portly gentlemen, nor the lady top right picture, and bottom left figure, but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and otherwise known as knickers, briefs, panties stockings, hose or shoes etc!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
Lovely costumes, Suzi! I'm curious about the very shiny fabric of the lilac gown. It looks much glossier than the satin ones. Is it a period fabric? Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/03/2006 14:37 If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org I did not make clothes for the two portly gentlemen, nor the lady top right picture, and bottom left figure, but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and otherwise known as knickers, briefs, panties stockings, hose or shoes etc!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] linen sale head's up
For those of you who like to line with lightweight linen, there are two colors on sale at fabric.com: tan and khaki, $3.75/yd http://www.fabric.com/clearance-fabric-fashion-fabric-clearance-47-discount-fabric-30-off-apparel-fabrics.aspx Lots of silk organzas, too... - Hope ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
At 16:14 30/03/2006, you wrote: Lovely costumes, Suzi! I'm curious about the very shiny fabric of the lilac gown. It looks much glossier than the satin ones. Is it a period fabric? No it is not. Bought by the lady herself, it is a polyester taffeta, which does not photograph well, although in daylight, and ordinary electric light it looks fine. You do what you can with what you are brought. (Or you bully them into wearing real fabrics, which I prefer to do!) The others are either real silk taffeta, or yarn dyed acetate taffeta, which wears remarkably well, and looks almost (well to a non-historian's eyes) like the real thing, while being a hell of a lot cheaper. Suzi Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/03/2006 14:37 If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org I did not make clothes for the two portly gentlemen, nor the lady top right picture, and bottom left figure, but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and otherwise known as knickers, briefs, panties stockings, hose or shoes etc!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
At 16:13 30/03/2006, you wrote: As if anyone was not interrested? You must be joking! What lovely costumes, thanks for sharing. I absolutely wont come with any critisism at all, but why does the gentlemen not button the bottom of their waistcoats? I think i recognise one of the ladies, i have seen at the ball in Bath, could this be right? Thanks and you should be proud The reason they are not buttoned is a purely practical one - they no longer fit. I made some of these costumes anything up to 15 years ago, and the gentlemen have allowed their appetites to overcome their desire to look good!! I have one of them on the to do when he gets around to it list for a replacement. You may well have met any of these people at the Bath Ball - the Bath group is an off shoot of the Covent Garden Minuet Company. Suzi If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised one, has a large number of my 18th century costumes in its gallery. www.minuetcompany.org I did not make clothes for the two portly gentlemen, nor the lady top right picture, and bottom left figure, but did make virtually all the rest, from the skin out. (Except for any garments worn on the lower part of the body and otherwise known as knickers, briefs, panties stockings, hose or shoes etc!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Regency Help - THANKS!
I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my plea for assistance with the regency robe (?) from PP. I'll probably be asking more questions as I'm really not familiar at all with that period of costuming and don't really know where to start. I was hoping to find a pattern for the robe from one of the existing pattern companies as I'm not too good at scaling patterns from a book. Bjarne - you mentioned that you had made a dress similar to this one - any chance of seeing pictures? I would love to see your version as I am sure it is stunning (like everything else you make)! Thanks, Wendi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency Help - THANKS!
Hi Wendi, It was many years ago i made that dress, and i am sorry to say, that i dont have any pictures of it. But i can tell you that it is very easy to make it. The two front pieces, are having deep pleats, that goes back to the shoulders. The two underbust straps closes the dress in the front. If you have a little experience in draping, you could drape it from looking at the pattern in the book. In my youth before i went to the design school, i was helping some people making an old abandoned mannor house into a museum. The last inhabitant died in 1829. She was born into the 18th century and would in her period have worn this style of dress. Therefore i made this dress for a lady who was living at the manor house. She and her husband was behind the opening of the museum. It was my intention to make her wear this dress from time to time, when visitors came to the manor house, but i never got any pictures from her, unfortunately. If you look at the dvd, you can have some closeup pics of it, also in Sense and Sensibility Emma Thompson wears it. Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:17 PM Subject: [h-cost] Regency Help - THANKS! I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my plea for assistance with the regency robe (?) from PP. I'll probably be asking more questions as I'm really not familiar at all with that period of costuming and don't really know where to start. I was hoping to find a pattern for the robe from one of the existing pattern companies as I'm not too good at scaling patterns from a book. Bjarne - you mentioned that you had made a dress similar to this one - any chance of seeing pictures? I would love to see your version as I am sure it is stunning (like everything else you make)! Thanks, Wendi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] what do renaissance seamen look like?
Hi, All. Just a side note, the thrums don't need to be knotted on the outside, they just need to be hooked into the knitted goods like the knot on a Turkish carpet. In fact, one of the alternate names of a blanket with a thrummed outside (looks like a bathroom floormat) is a rugg. They are noted in inventories from Plimoth Plantation circa 1620. Irish mantles from the late 16th C. had the same sort of finish to them, to help shed off moisture and keep in warmth, I suppose. I believe Moryson referred to them as Irish rugges . Mike T. Thrums are little bits of wool knotted together. If you knit this up, and put all the knotted ends to the outside, it does look like fur. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 303
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lalah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Venetian Masking Don't you find the plaster extremely uncomfortable on the face. It gets very hot as it cures. I do stage/film makeup and we use a totally different material to make up the original cast on the face. I can't imagine having that hot plaster on my face for the time it takes to set. Of course the professional method IS expensive and time consuming. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender *** Patches Writes: Actually, while the plaster is exothermic as it dries, it really isn't that bad. It feels more like a warm compress than a burning sensation - I don't know of a case where someone used the ordinary plaster that you can get at a hobby or craft store and got burned by it. I've heard of impromptu waxing results because they didn't grease their face first, but no burns. I've done this on a lot of folks and no one has come back screaming about burns or bring uncomfortably hot. The uncomforatble part comes in when water drips into the corner of your eye or in your ear or something. It helps to have a napkin handy to wipe that away. Or if you're claustrophobic. I learned to make the molds from a theatre professor of mine and then a few friends later on. A few Art classes and so forth. For pro-theatre, there are far easier tools to use, Unfortunately, getting the tools and pro-latex is a little difficult unless you've got a theatre buying it for you. (I fell out of my theatre rat tendencies while still in college and confronted with the politics of the professional scene. It still hurts to watch a show that I haven't worked on.) But anyway, masks are a hobby that I've piddled with off and on and somehow I think folks are assuming I'm some kind of authority on the subject out here (NOT!). Hence, the help request. Patches ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] talk about tight lacing
If you Google 15 inch waist, you may see any number
of images of too-narrow waists.
Ann in CT
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RE: [h-cost] Showing off my 18th century work
In front of the TV mostly! I didn't make them all at once, but over a period of time. The current job, also 18th century, is giving me sleepless nights though - will post pictures when I am done as it has to be the stupidest job ever, apart from making costumes for wolves, also 18th century! WOLVES OK, I MUST hear about that when I get there:) Anne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] venetian masking
It's also inexpensive. I generally do only a few layers-paper, cloth and paper again. I use vaseline on the mold, so I put cleaner paper on the inside, however with a mold release spray, maybe I wouldn't have to do that. I build details with the paper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Sampsel Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] venetian masking Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:53:42 -0800 From: Sharon at Collierfam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Venetian Masking To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Sorry if I'm confused. Is your mask made of plaster? Or just the mold? When I make masks, I use alternate layers of cheesecloth and paper, in glue. It makes a lightweight, slightly flexible mask. Then I glue pieces of leather at contact spots for comfort. Does this sound like what you do? Sharon * Patches writes: No. I literally make the mask form or frame of plaster and cloth. When dry, I then cover the form in another piece of cloth that I have choosen as my backround. I then decorate the mask however I want and then slap a felt piece of cloth on the interior of the mask to cushion the face. It doesn't have the flexibility of your style, and will only fit the face of the original model comfortably, but it doesn't loose the shape and decoration display like some of the flexible masks do. It's also a little heavier, probably. But I will have to try your idea on the castings of my face to see how it works. It sounds interesting. I'll be sending the handouts via my work account, because my personal one right now is giving me attitude about attachments. Patches ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Princess Elizabeth's garb
I'm ready to cut the fabric and just realized that I don't know how it is closed. Does it open in the front with a front stomacher or does it close somewhere else and hidden? Can anyone suggest how to place an opening in this gown? I've seen it done both ways in dresses. This is for a 7 year old so it has to be the simplest way. I just want it to be right. Otheriwse the parts are going fine. Body, farthingale and pettycoat done. Fabric for the sleeves ready to be made as well. Beads and ideas in the planning stage. All seems to be proceeding well... then I think too much and get in trouble. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth's garb
I'm ready to cut the fabric and just realized that I don't know how it is closed. Does it open in the front with a front stomacher or does it close somewhere else and hidden? Can anyone suggest how to place an opening in this gown? I've seen it done both ways in dresses. This is for a 7 year old so it has to be the simplest way. I just want it to be right. As the skirt is open in the front I'd suggest making it close in front with a stomacher/placard over it. It doesn't really seem logical to have a bodice open somewhere else becaue it means the skirt has an extra opening somewhere else. http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/tower.html http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/Princesselizabeth.html It really does give a good smooth look. michaela http://glittersweet.com the temptation to make a tudor gown is growing... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 30/03/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth's garb
I saw Ninya site and asked her several questions already. I just wanted to make sure there was no alternate way to do it... and I pick the wrong one. Thanks for the advice. I think I've over researched this garb and made myself nervous about making it. I made the corset/bosy for my daughter of lined. that studff is wonderful to hand sew. I'm making the complete thing with hand sewn parts. I may never do it again but well worth the time. I like handsewing. Sewing all those channels on the corset was not fun but I learned more that way. When I make mine, I need to measure more fully. I had some that were too wide and some too narrow. I need to be more consistant. It was the first one I've ever made. It looks wonderful. I'll try to post a picture when I can. I had decided to use the Elenor de Toledo dress for mine but an liking the early Tudors more now that I've found so many with the turned-up sleeves. I think it would look better if we have matching period gown since we're going together. Elizabeth wants me to play her mom. I can do that. - Original Message - From: michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth's garb I'm ready to cut the fabric and just realized that I don't know how it is closed. Does it open in the front with a front stomacher or does it close somewhere else and hidden? Can anyone suggest how to place an opening in this gown? I've seen it done both ways in dresses. This is for a 7 year old so it has to be the simplest way. I just want it to be right. As the skirt is open in the front I'd suggest making it close in front with a stomacher/placard over it. It doesn't really seem logical to have a bodice open somewhere else becaue it means the skirt has an extra opening somewhere else. http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/tower.html http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/Princesselizabeth.html It really does give a good smooth look. michaela http://glittersweet.com the temptation to make a tudor gown is growing... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 30/03/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] French site help dating
Hello all, While I took French classes for two years, that was many years ago, and my French simply is lacking. Anyway, I found this lovely site that has images I had never seen before. http://gallica.bnf.fr/Catalogue/NoticesInd/MAN01080.htm I am wondering what time frame these images came from, but my searches on the website is badly hampered by my lack of understanding the French language. And babel fish is not a help. Would anyone know what specific time frame these are from other than 16th century (I kinda get that), and perhaps any further information, in English? and be willing to share that with me? Thank you, Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] French site help dating
At 06:56 PM 3/30/2006, you wrote: Hello all, While I took French classes for two years, that was many years ago, and my French simply is lacking. Anyway, I found this lovely site that has images I had never seen before. http://gallica.bnf.fr/Catalogue/NoticesInd/MAN01080.htm I am wondering what time frame these images came from, but my searches on the website is badly hampered by my lack of understanding the French language. And babel fish is not a help. Would anyone know what specific time frame these are from other than 16th century (I kinda get that), and perhaps any further information, in English? and be willing to share that with me? Thank you, Kimiko The style of clothing seems to be early 16th century, say before 1530. Think young Henry VIII. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] French site help dating
Kimiko wrote: Anyway, I found this lovely site that has images I had never seen before. http://gallica.bnf.fr/Catalogue/NoticesInd/MAN01080.htm Would anyone know what specific time frame these are from other than 16th century (I kinda get that), and perhaps any further information, in English? and be willing to share that with me? The images on the page are from Ovid's _Heroides_, which is written in the form of letters from famous women (mostly mythological) of antiquity to their lovers. IIRC, all the affairs ended badly. Anyway, the illuminated manuscript is MS Francais 874, held in the Bibliotheque Nationale de France in Paris, and it is believed to have been created sometime between 1498 and 1502. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
