Re: [h-cost] Re: Suburban DC costuming day?

[Jeraldine Rorstrom-Lee]

I saw an advertisement on a bus for the American Indian exhibit.  And 
the Italian renaissance sound good too.


Jerry

A. Thurman wrote:

In DC there are 3 things I'm currently aware of:

Red at the Textile Museum: 
http://www.textilemuseum.org/exhibitions/current.htm


Italian Renaissance and Baroque Women Painters at the National Museum
of Women in the arts (not costume focused, but lots of portraits with
costume detail):
http://www.nmwa.org/exhibition/detail.asp?exhibitid=151

Native American women's dresses at the new(ish) National Museum of the
American Indian:
http://www.nmai.si.edu/subpage.cfm?subpage=exhibitions&second=dc

If anyone is 1) interested in a hike to Baltimore and/or 2) also
interested in modern textile art, there's an exhibit of Japanese
textiles at the Baltimore Museum of Art (scroll down):
http://www.artbma.org/exhibitions/index.html

Allison T.

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either would be okay by me.  We have such a fine set of museums here, it
would be a shame to miss them.  Anything comung up?

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[h-cost] Re: Suburban DC costuming day?

[A. Thurman]

In DC there are 3 things I'm currently aware of:

Red at the Textile Museum: http://www.textilemuseum.org/exhibitions/current.htm

Italian Renaissance and Baroque Women Painters at the National Museum
of Women in the arts (not costume focused, but lots of portraits with
costume detail):
http://www.nmwa.org/exhibition/detail.asp?exhibitid=151

Native American women's dresses at the new(ish) National Museum of the
American Indian:
http://www.nmai.si.edu/subpage.cfm?subpage=exhibitions&second=dc

If anyone is 1) interested in a hike to Baltimore and/or 2) also
interested in modern textile art, there's an exhibit of Japanese
textiles at the Baltimore Museum of Art (scroll down):
http://www.artbma.org/exhibitions/index.html

Allison T.

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either would be okay by me.  We have such a fine set of museums here, it
would be a shame to miss them.  Anything comung up?

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RE: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[otsisto]

It would be snug in the chest area. I have an apron dress that is snug in
the bust for a wee bit o' support. The weave of the fabric allows some give
so that you can pull it over the head.
This is similar to the pattern I made.
http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/mjc/sca/aprond.html

extra info
http://www.silverdor.org/viking/vikingad.html

http://www.tjurslakter.nl/viking%20apron-dress.pdf

http://www.earlyperiod.com/articles/viking-apron.php

http://www.vikingagevessels.org/documents/C_%20Viking%20Womens%20Costume.pdf

http://members.aol.com/MtFreehold/Viking_handout_women.pdf

I had another site earmarked but can seem to find it.

De

-Original Message-
Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.  But the
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which would
most certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never heard of
any viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know something
about that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any
fastening? If not, what would the fastening be?

Many thanks,

Zuzana


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Re: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[Judy Mitchell]

Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:

Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.  But the 
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which would most 
certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never heard of any 
viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know something about 
that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any fastening? If 
not, what would the fastening be?


Hi,

	The underdress/smock and the dress are basically 2-4 gored dresses, 
that pull over your head. While they can be somewhat tight, they still 
have to go over the bust and not rip when you bend or move your arms. 
Some men's styles of sleevs were tight enough that it was a woman's job 
to sew the sleeves ends closed once the men were dressed, not sure if 
the women's were ever that tight. If you made a keyole neckline, there 
was usually a small brooch to hold it closed, although scoop necks were 
also known.


	The apron-dress is a layer on top of the dress. Yes, it does involve 2 
brooches that attach spaghetti-strap loops from the back to tiny loops 
on the front. The apron dress again goes over the head, but the top 
edges is about armpit level. Does it have to be a shapeless bag? nope.


	There are many styles of apron-dresses, but if you make it out of 
rectangular panels with gores inserted in between 
  you can do a bit 
of tailoring to still make it fit tightly at the upper body and flow 
nicley over the hips. Also, there is some evidence that Inga Hagg 
mentions in her Hedeby book, about long darts at the side, which would 
have run from the top edge to about the waste, and they would create 
more tailoring.


	I usually made my apron-dresses by measuring from bust point to bust 
point and making that my panel width. Figuring than how many panels it 
would take to go around me, and adding in gores in between. There was 
usually some bagginess at the top, but those side darts could take a lot 
of that out. As long as you can still get out of it! Others prefer make 
their panel width more dependant on fabric width and figure how many of 
those it would take to wrap around. I figure they were working on a 
warp-weighted loom and would weave whatever width they darn well wanted.


	Because of my particular shape, I prefered the additional in gores. 
Many people who are thinner prefer the gores calculated into the panels 
creating fewer seams (I can't get that out of my fabric).


Hope this helps,
-Judy Mitchell
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[h-cost] viking apron dress

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.  But the 
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which would most 
certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never heard of any 
viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know something about 
that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any fastening? If 
not, what would the fastening be?

Many thanks,

Zuzana

 
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Re: [h-cost] Re: Suburban DC costuming day?

[AnnBWass]

 
In a message dated 6/8/2007 10:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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either  would be okay by me.  We have such a fine set of museums here, it  
would be a shame to miss them.  Anything comung  up?


It is hard to meet and get to know a group of strangers at a museum exhibit  
or a restaurant.  
 
However, "And so to bed" is at the DAR right now.  
 
As I said before, I could put together an event at Riversdale.   Perhaps we 
could have a show and tell of some sort, as there is such a wide  variety of 
interests on this list.  We are a house museum and would of  course offer tours 
for anyone who had not been there.  Alas, we have no  costume collection!
 
If someone on the list wants to organize something, though, by all means,  
do.  I couldn't do anything at Riversdale before late fall or winter.
 
Ann Wass



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RE: [h-cost] Sofie in the dress.

[Rickard, Patty]

Have a wonderful, well-deserved holiday!

Patty

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On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sofie in the dress.

Thankyou soo much to all who replyed with feedback of Sofies dress. I am

pleased you like her.
I didnt dress her up myself, she was a very shy client, but her mother
took 
on her clothes after my instruktions. She could have fitted the bodice a

little better, but ...
Thanks a lot.
I  unsubscribe now, i am going to Italy day after tomorrow, early monday

morning for hollidays.
Please dont talk of anything important while i am away
Thankyou!

Bjarne 


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Re: [h-cost] Sofie in the dress.

[Bjarne og Leif Drews]

Thankyou soo much to all who replyed with feedback of Sofies dress. I am 
pleased you like her.
I didnt dress her up myself, she was a very shy client, but her mother took 
on her clothes after my instruktions. She could have fitted the bodice a 
little better, but ...

Thanks a lot.
I  unsubscribe now, i am going to Italy day after tomorrow, early monday 
morning for hollidays.

Please dont talk of anything important while i am away
Thankyou!

Bjarne 



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Re: [h-cost] asking for suggestions to fix sleeves

[Marie Stewart]

Thanks folks for the suggestions.
I'm thinking along the same lines as Dawn, so I think I will try that
first.  I'm glad to hear from some one who has also conquered the same
problem.
Thanks again.
Mari




>> The problem, as you will see in the photo is the
> sleeves. It seems that I have taken a) too long to sew this dress
> together and b) that  my weight training regime really is working. In
> short, my arms are too large for the sleeves. I do have a couple of ideas
> of how to fix that, but I  thought I would ask here, just in case
> someone else has a  better idea before I get started.


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Re: [h-cost] Sofie in the dress.

[Dianne & Greg Stucki]

At 04:06 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote:
As promised here are the pictures of a very happy Sofie, She jumped 
up and down
Notice the big bunch of flowers, nice to have positive feedback from 
a satisfied costumer:

http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/terrasse.htm

Bjarne



Darn it all, Bjarne, the back of that dress is so pretty it makes ME 
want to make one, and I have nowhere to wear such a thing, and no 
time or money for another era! LOL!


It's absolutely gorgeous.

Dianne

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