Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
I bought myself something that will help me learn more about making historical costumes. That will able me to try out a lot with less cost. Ever since I made my 16th century wedding dress I had the feeling that I couldn't improve myself on making better and more beautiful costumes because it was getting too expensive. But I have found a solution. I bought myself two Ball Jointed Dolls from Korea. One 70cm male doll and one 68cm female. She will come somewhere in January but I am already making a bustle gown for her. A friend of mine has the same size doll. And yesterday we fitted the skirt and bustle and made a basic pattern for the bodice. I found out by making a dress shirt and pants for my boy Quinn that it is the perfect size for me. Not to small and not to big. Now I can get more experience and try a dress or a male costume in nice fabrics before I make it in full size. And we bought some beautiful patten books on French Fashion Doll making. And I hope my husband will like making dolls so that he will be a doll maker on the Anton Pieck Parade next year. That would be fun making 19th century dolls while wearing 19th century clothing. I think the public will love it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
In a message dated 12/26/2007 12:09:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my husband bought me the top of the line Pfaff Creative Vision machine! And, a PS to my last post. You are very fortunate that you husband was evidently paying enough attention to know where to go to buy what you wanted. I've known men to buy sewing machines for their wives that were not really that great. (Not MY husband, though--he knew better!) Ann Wass **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
In a message dated 12/26/2007 12:09:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my husband bought me the top of the line Pfaff Creative Vision machine! That is indeed a great gift, and I'm sure you will enjoy the classes. I still get great enjoyment out of sitting down at my Bernina--7 years old, now--after years of making do with other machines. Ann Wass **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
In a message dated 12/25/2007 8:22:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't walk around listening to music. I have better stereo equipment at home. * I see your point. I much prefer music in the air around me than thru headphones. But of course now they have all these devices with speakers you can just plug the iPod into. I don't have one either, but I got all my buddies iPod Shuffles for Christmas [they're tiny and clip onto your lapel or shirt collar, 2 gigs...amazing]they love them! *** Nor do I walk around talking on the phone--I don't have a cell phone I get that too. But my cell phone has come in very handy since I have to travel back and forth between where I live now and my old and sick parents back in my hometown. One is not required to answer the [damn] thing every time nor talk on it constantly. Sorrydidn't mean to get off topic. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe
Of course I will...any other takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Henderson Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe *lower lip wibbles* And... and... you aren't gonna share?? :) Meli Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:04:47 -0700 From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Done! :) Responded off list... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Althea Turner Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 12:11 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe Hello! Does anyone know of an online scan of the Scholar robes from Alcega? Or would be willing to scan it and send it to me? I've looked around the intarwebz and couldn't find a copy. Thanks! Happy Holidays! Althea ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
Two belly-dance costume books, a book on hats and one on shoes. Plus several volumes of fiction, some CDs to listen to, jewelry, and truffles (can't go wrong there). Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe
Unless Wicked Frau has access to one of the very rare original copies of Alcega, surely there's a copyright issue involved here. Certainly in most of Europe, and I assume in the USA too, there is no right to offer and distribute copyright material freely to others without permission, even if supplied without charge. We have not authorised any display of Alcega patterns on line either. Ruth Bean Ruth Bean Publishers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original message- | Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:31:12 -0700 | From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | | Of course I will...any other takers? | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On | Behalf Of Sharon Henderson | Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 2:50 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | | *lower lip wibbles* | | And... and... you aren't gonna share?? | | :) | Meli | | | Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:04:47 -0700 | From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Done! :) Responded off list... | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On | Behalf Of Althea Turner | Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 12:11 PM | To: Historical Costume | Subject: [h-cost] looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | | Hello! | Does anyone know of an online scan of the Scholar robes from Alcega? Or | would be willing to scan it and send it to me? I've looked around the | intarwebz and couldn't find a copy. Thanks! | Happy Holidays! | Althea | ___ | ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Christmas dinner story...waaaay OT
This was posted on the AOL Classical Music boards [we talk about everything]. * This is an article submitted to a 1999 Louisville Sentinel contest to find out who had the wildest Christmas dinner. This won first prize. As a joke, my brother used to hang a pair of panty hose over his fireplace before Christmas. He said all he wanted was for Santa to fill them. What they say about Santa checking the list twice must be true because every Christmas morning, although Jay's kids' stockings were overflowed, his poor pantyhose hung sadly empty. One year I decided to make his dream come true. I put on sunglasses and went in search of an inflatable love doll. They don't sell those things at Wal-Mart. I had to go to an adult bookstore downtown. If you've never been in an X-rated store, don't go. You'll only confuse yourself. I was there an hour saying things like, What does this do? You're kidding me! Who would buy that? Finally, I made it to the inflatable doll section. I wanted to buy a standard, uncomplicated doll that could also substitute as a passenger in my truck so I could use the carpool lane during rush hour. Finding what I wanted was difficult. Love dolls come in many different models. The top of the line, according to the side of the box, could do things I'd only seen in a book on animal husbandry. I settled on Lovable Louise. She was at the bottom of the price scale. To call Louise a doll took a huge leap of imagination. On Christmas Eve, with the help of an old bicycle pump, Louise came to life. My sister-in-law was in on the plan and let me in during the wee morning hours, long after Santa had come and gone, I filled the dangling pantyhose with Louise's pliant legs and bottom. I also ate some cookies and drank what remained of a glass of milk on a nearby tray. I went home, and giggled for a couple of hours. The next morning my brother called to say that Santa had been to his house and left a present that had made him VERY happy but had left the dog confused. She would bark, start to walk away, then come back and bark some more. We all agreed that Louise should remain in her panty hose so the rest of the family could admire her when they came over for the traditional Christmas dinner. My grandmother noticed Louise the moment she walked in the door. What the hell is that? she asked. My brother quickly explained, It's a doll. Who would play with something like that? Granny snapped. I had several candidates in mind, but kept my mouth shut. Where are her clothes? Granny continued. Boy, that turkey sure smells nice, Gran, Jay, my brother said, trying to steer her into the dining room. But Granny was relentless. Why doesn't she have any teeth? Again, I could have answered, but why would I? It was Christmas and no one wanted to ride in the back of the ambulance saying, Hang on Granny! Hang on! My grandfather, a delightful old man with poor eyesight, sidled up to me and said, Hey, who's the naked gal by the fireplace? I told him she was Jay's friend. A few minutes later, I noticed Grandpa by the mantel, talking to Louise. Not just talking, but actually flirting. It was then that we realized this might be Grandpa's last Christmas at home. The dinner went well. We made the usual small talk about who had died, who was dying, and who should be killed, when suddenly Louise made a noise that sounded a lot like my father in the bathroom in the morning. Then she lurched from the panty hose, flew around the room twice, and fell in a heap in front of the sofa. The cat screamed. I passed cranberry sauce through my nose, and Grandpa ran across the room, fell to his knees, and began administering mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. My brother fell back over his chair and wet his pants and Granny threw down her napkin, stomped out of the room, and sat in the car. It was indeed a Christmas to treasure and remember. Later in my mother's garage, we conducted a thorough examination to decide the cause of Louise's collapse. We discovered that Louise had suffered from a hot ember to the back of her right thigh. Fortunately, thanks to a wonder drug called duct tape, we restored her to perfect health. Louise went on to star in several bachelor party movies. I think Grandpa still calls her whenever he can get out of the house. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Costume related Christmas gifts
On Dec 26, 2007 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costume related, I got the Janet Arnold book on 19th and early 20th c. costume patterns, some fingerless gloves (EXCELLENT for use in cold offices), and time to do some sewing. I've also got the Dress at the Court of Henry VIII but it hasn't arrived yet. Not a gift, but definitely costumey - got to see Burton's Sweeney Todd - hilarious, and very over the top visually (at last! Goth beachwear!) Allison T. Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:43:37 -0800 From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Aren't we having annual discussion? I got _Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII_, _Ancient Textiles: Production, Craft, and Society_, _Purses in Pieces_, a Fortuny-like olive-colored crushed silk sleeveless dress, and two Christmas ornaments of rather naughty-looking fairies in dressed in pastel Edwardian lingerie. Also some science fiction and fantasy books; a whole bunch of spices, seeds, nuts, and tea from an Indian grocery store and elsewhere; a bottle of elderberry wine; a bottle of dandelion wine; a multi-region DVD player; and an IPOD (I plan to get rid of the IPOD ASAP). Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltpress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Costume related Christmas gifts
In a message dated 12/26/2007 12:33:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Burton's Sweeney Todd - hilarious, and very over the top visually (at last! Goth beachwear!) *** Another Coleen Atwood design extravaganza! I can't wait to see it. I love her stuff. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Costume related Christmas gifts
Not a gift, but definitely costumey - got to see Burton's Sweeney Todd - hilarious, and very over the top visually (at last! Goth beachwear!) Also really fun costumes in Enchanted, which we finally got to see Saturday.? (Sweeney Todd and Book of Secrets are both on my list, too.) Ann Wass -Original Message- From: A. Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:30 pm Subject: [h-cost] Re: Costume related Christmas gifts On Dec 26, 2007 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costume related, I got the Janet Arnold book on 19th and early 20th c. costume patterns, some fingerless gloves (EXCELLENT for use in cold offices), and time to do some sewing. I've also got the Dress at the Court of Henry VIII but it hasn't arrived yet. Not a gift, but definitely costumey - got to see Burton's Sweeney Todd - hilarious, and very over the top visually (at last! Goth beachwear!) Allison T. Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:43:37 -0800 From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Aren't we having annual discussion? I got _Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII_, _Ancient Textiles: Production, Craft, and Society_, _Purses in Pieces_, a Fortuny-like olive-colored crushed silk sleeveless dress, and two Christmas ornaments of rather naughty-looking fairies in dressed in pastel Edwardian lingerie. Also some science fiction and fantasy books; a whole bunch of spices, seeds, nuts, and tea from an Indian grocery store and elsewhere; a bottle of elderberry wine; a bottle of dandelion wine; a multi-region DVD player; and an IPOD (I plan to get rid of the IPOD ASAP). Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltpress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
The Kyoto museum book (which my sis-in-law's puppies promptly chewed the dust jacket off), and we're going into the city (NYC) tonight to see Kevin Kline in 'Cyrano' and in March to to see 'Sunday in the Park with George' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts Aren't we having annual discussion? I got _Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII_, _Ancient Textiles: Production, Craft, and Society_, _Purses in Pieces_, a Fortuny-like olive-colored crushed silk sleeveless dress, and two Christmas ornaments of rather naughty-looking fairies in dressed in pastel Edwardian lingerie. Also some science fiction and fantasy books; a whole bunch of spices, seeds, nuts, and tea from an Indian grocery store and elsewhere; a bottle of elderberry wine; a bottle of dandelion wine; a multi-region DVD player; and an IPOD (I plan to get rid of the IPOD ASAP). Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltpress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas dinner story...waaaay OT
Ok, Albert--that one needed a Norking through the Nose warning! LOL!!! Arlys On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:26:46 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was posted on the AOL Classical Music boards [we talk about everything]. * This is an article submitted to a 1999 Louisville Sentinel contest to find out who had the wildest Christmas dinner. This won first prize. [snip] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe
Hello Ruth, Would this not fall under fair use? I would like a copy of a particular page for academic reasons. I'm not asking for the whole book and I don't intend to post the page on the web. It's seems counter-productive to not allow academic use of published materials, especially in light of the extremely high price of the book. Althea On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:13:30 -, Ruth Bean wrote Unless Wicked Frau has access to one of the very rare original copies of Alcega, surely there's a copyright issue involved here. Certainly in most of Europe, and I assume in the USA too, there is no right to offer and distribute copyright material freely to others without permission, even if supplied without charge. We have not authorised any display of Alcega patterns on line either. Ruth Bean Ruth Bean Publishers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original message- | Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:31:12 -0700 | From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | | Of course I will...any other takers? | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:h-costume- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On | Behalf Of Sharon Henderson | Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 2:50 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [h- cost] Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | | *lower lip wibbles* | | And... and... you aren't gonna share?? | | :) | Meli | | | Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:04:47 -0700 | From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Done! :) Responded off list... | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:h-costume- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On | Behalf Of Althea Turner | Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 12:11 PM | To: Historical Costume | Subject: [h- cost] looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe | | Hello! | Does anyone know of an online scan of the Scholar robes from Alcega? Or | would be willing to scan it and send it to me? I've looked around the | intarwebz and couldn't find a copy. Thanks! | Happy Holidays! | Althea | ___ | ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume *** Directory of Diverse Knowledge http://www.alfalfapress.com/sca Althea Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Copyright AGAIN (WAS: Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe)
On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Althea Turner wrote: Hello Ruth, Would this not fall under fair use? I would like a copy of a particular page for academic reasons. I'm not asking for the whole book and I don't intend to post the page on the web. It's seems counter-productive to not allow academic use of published materials, especially in light of the extremely high price of the book. Althea On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:13:30 -, Ruth Bean wrote Unless Wicked Frau has access to one of the very rare original copies of Alcega, surely there's a copyright issue involved here. Certainly in most of Europe, and I assume in the USA too, there is no right to offer and distribute copyright material freely to others without permission, even if supplied without charge. We have not authorised any display of Alcega patterns on line either. Please, can we not get into THAT discussion again here? I am not the list moderator, but.. About every three to six months on this list, someone asks about sharing copies of something, and it leads into an extended exchange of conflicting, passionate posts about what exactly the copyright laws DO say, what they SHOULD say, what's right, what's wrong, what's fair and unfair, legal and illegal. and it can go on for weeks. Of course we are always getting new people on the list (welcome, new people!) who haven't been through one of these yet, so it's quite understandable that the topic will be brought up from time to time. But I hope that before discussing this yet again, people will first re-read the previous discussions in the archives. The most recent one was in October 2007, I think. You can search this list's archives at: http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Fashion/ The only drawback to this search site is that it only searches message headers, not text, and threads about copyright often don't have that in the subject header. I *think* most of the October discussion was in a thread called costume photos. Or go directly to the October archive here and search on copyright: http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Fashion/hcos07/10hcos07.cl I, personally, would make a mild suggestion that anyone who wants to correspond about sharing or copying information would do well to send their e-mails on the subject directly to other list members, rather than to the list as a whole. In most e-mail programs it's fairly easy to control what address appears in the To: line. OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Copyright AGAIN (WAS: Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe)
Please, can we not get into THAT discussion again here? I am not the list moderator, but.. About every three to six months on this list, someone asks about sharing copies of something, and it leads into an extended exchange of conflicting, passionate posts about what exactly the copyright laws DO say, what they SHOULD say, what's right, what's wrong, what's fair and unfair, legal and illegal. and it can go on for weeks. If Ruth Bean as publisher is the copyright owner, first bear in mind that the book was copyrighted under UK law which is not identical to US copyright law. Previous discussions based on US copyright law do not necessarily apply. Second, if Ruth Bean is the copyright owner, then she has the power to give or withhold permission, and she seems to be right here to ask. Meaning there is no need for an extended discussion. That does not mean I think copyright discussions are inappropriate merely because you are tired of them, but having the copyright owner right there to ask cuts right to the chase. I assume she knows exactly what she registered for protection under UK law. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
