[h-cost] Antiques Roadshow

2010-08-19 Thread penny1a
We are going to Antiques Roadshow Saturday in DC.  We have 9 am tickets.  I
am so excited. We can bring four items. Is anyone from the list going? 
 
I am bringing my collection of 23 original fashion plates of French plays
from the late 1890s-1903.  Some are Sarah Bernhardt plays.  The
illustrations show the costume changes per character with five to six
costumes per fashion plate.  These once belonged to the illustrator or
editor.  A while back, we discussed these plates on h-costume.  I was having
a problem scanning them because they are so large.  I now own a scanner with
a large enough bed to scan the plates.  Hopefully, I will getting them
online in the autumn.
 
I am also bringing some hand-tinted stereoviews from the first stereoview
London publisher.  The photos are of weddings.  A photo historian told me
that these are the earliest known hand-tinted stereoviews that they have
seen by this photographer.  I am excited to see if this is true. 
 
We are bringing an antique inlaid game table that I gave my husband for his
birthday.  It has a chess table and a roulette wheel.  It is beautiful!  We
really don't care about the value, we just want to know how old it is.
 
I am trying to decide what our 4th item will be.  Maybe you all can help me
decide.  I need to know the following items value for insurance purposes.
So let me know what you think that I should bring:
1. Hand-beaded traditional Philippians dress (we discussed this dress on
h-costume)
2. An 1814 book titled Picturesque Representations of The Dress and Manners
of the English.  It is a rare book and has full page hand-tinted
illustrations of the occupations with a corresponding page with the
occupation description.  You can see thumbnails of this book at:
http://www.costumegallery.com/1814/British_Occupations/Laborers/  This is
just the laborers section online.  I own the entire book and haven't put all
of them online yet.
3. My Princess Diana auction dress books and photos.  The books are
autographed by fashion designer David Emanuel (Di's wedding dress) and some
of the current dress owners.  They autographed the books when I worked on
the dresses  For newbies to h-costume, I have worked with David and seven of
the charity dresses. I don't know if these would really be classified as an
antique.
4. Delineator magazine collection spanning from 1880-1930.
5. A 1900s template ad book that was used by the fashion advertising
industry for fashion ads in magazines and newspapers.  The ads in fashion
magazines were originally templates and the publisher would insert the
business info into the templates for publication.
 
Let me know what you think my 4th item should be. We are leaving for DC
Friday night.
 
Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
 http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com
14 websites of fashion, textiles,  costume history
 
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Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips

2010-08-19 Thread REBECCA BURCH
Try Crazy Crow Trading Post, they have 2' for $3.75/pr and 2 1/4 for $3.95/pr, 
silver only.

www.crazycrow.com

I love them for the customer service and bead selection. 

Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA

The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and 
the brocades.  --Anonymous Costumer--

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Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips

2010-08-19 Thread Beteena Paradise
jewelrysupply.com has smaller ones (28mm - a bit over an inch) for $2.26 for a 
pack of 10 (silver only). They have had other styles but seem to be out at the 
moment.

http://www.jewelrysupply.com/products/BL323.html?catPath=272_833





From: REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.net
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 3:19:21 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips

Try Crazy Crow Trading Post, they have 2' for $3.75/pr and 2 1/4 for $3.95/pr, 
silver only.

www.crazycrow.com

I love them for the customer service and bead selection. 

Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA

The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and 
the brocades.  --Anonymous Costumer--

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Re: [h-cost] Antiques Roadshow

2010-08-19 Thread Marjorie Wilser
The Princess Di book (hate to say it); AR doesn't really seem to care  
much about antique fashion, at least for the parts they televise. Or  
the Philippines dress.


Back when I went, they cherry-picked all the televised stuff from the  
front of the line- the very earliest comers. Don't hold your breath  
about being televised :)


However-- the long line was FUN! After the coffee-addicted sent  
partners out for caffeine, the line thawed and it was I'll show you  
mine if you'll show me yours, and the mile-long conversation began as  
we wound our way through many twists  turns of the line. I toted a  
folding chair and _used_ it occasionally.


Note: it helps to have a cart if anything you bring is heavy/awkward.  
A thermos or water bottle if you like coffee or hydration.


Have fun! Naturally, we expect a full report!

== Marjorie Wilser

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On Aug 18, 2010, at 11:12 PM, penny1a wrote:

We are going to Antiques Roadshow Saturday in DC.  We have 9 am  
tickets.  I

am so excited. We can bring four items. Is anyone from the list going?

I am bringing my collection of 23 original fashion plates of French  
plays

from the late 1890s-1903.  Some are Sarah Bernhardt plays.  The
illustrations show the costume changes per character with five to six
costumes per fashion plate.  These once belonged to the illustrator or
editor.  A while back, we discussed these plates on h-costume.  I  
was having
a problem scanning them because they are so large.  I now own a  
scanner with

a large enough bed to scan the plates.  Hopefully, I will getting them
online in the autumn.

I am also bringing some hand-tinted stereoviews from the first  
stereoview
London publisher.  The photos are of weddings.  A photo historian  
told me
that these are the earliest known hand-tinted stereoviews that they  
have

seen by this photographer.  I am excited to see if this is true.

We are bringing an antique inlaid game table that I gave my husband  
for his
birthday.  It has a chess table and a roulette wheel.  It is  
beautiful!  We

really don't care about the value, we just want to know how old it is.

I am trying to decide what our 4th item will be.  Maybe you all can  
help me
decide.  I need to know the following items value for insurance  
purposes.

So let me know what you think that I should bring:
1. Hand-beaded traditional Philippians dress (we discussed this  
dress on

h-costume)
2. An 1814 book titled Picturesque Representations of The Dress and  
Manners

of the English.  It is a rare book and has full page hand-tinted
illustrations of the occupations with a corresponding page with the
occupation description.  You can see thumbnails of this book at:
http://www.costumegallery.com/1814/British_Occupations/Laborers/   
This is
just the laborers section online.  I own the entire book and haven't  
put all

of them online yet.
3. My Princess Diana auction dress books and photos.  The books are
autographed by fashion designer David Emanuel (Di's wedding dress)  
and some
of the current dress owners.  They autographed the books when I  
worked on
the dresses  For newbies to h-costume, I have worked with David and  
seven of
the charity dresses. I don't know if these would really be  
classified as an

antique.
4. Delineator magazine collection spanning from 1880-1930.
5. A 1900s template ad book that was used by the fashion advertising
industry for fashion ads in magazines and newspapers.  The ads in  
fashion

magazines were originally templates and the publisher would insert the
business info into the templates for publication.

Let me know what you think my 4th item should be. We are leaving for  
DC

Friday night.

Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com
14 websites of fashion, textiles,  costume history

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Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips

2010-08-19 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
-Original Message-From: Beteena Paradise 
bete...@mostlymedieval.comSent 8/19/2010 10:39:33 AMTo: Historical Costume 
h-cost...@indra.comSubject: Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tipsjewelrysupply.com 
has smaller ones (28mm - a bit over an inch) for $2.26 fo
r a

pack of 10 (silver only). They have had other styles but seem to be out at
the

moment.

http://www.jewelrysupply.com/products/BL323.html?catPath=272_833





From: REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.net
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 3:19:21 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tips

Try Crazy Crow Trading Post, they have 2' for $3.75/pr and 2 1/4 for $3.95
/pr,

silver only.

www.crazycrow.com

I love them for the customer service and bead selection.


Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA

The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds
 and

the brocades.? --Anonymous Costumer--

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Re: [h-cost] Antiques Roadshow

2010-08-19 Thread Mary M

Hello Penny,
 
I'm jelous...You getting to go to the Antique Road Show. I watch it whenever I 
can. Let me know how it goes. It sounds interesting.
Maybe someday when it is close by in California I can attend. How does one get 
tickets and what is the cost if any other than plane ticket.
Mary
 
 From: penn...@costumegallery.com
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 02:12:20 -0400
 Subject: [h-cost] Antiques Roadshow
 
 We are going to Antiques Roadshow Saturday in DC. We have 9 am tickets. I
 am so excited. We can bring four items. Is anyone from the list going? 
 
 I am bringing my collection of 23 original fashion plates of French plays
 from the late 1890s-1903. Some are Sarah Bernhardt plays. The
 illustrations show the costume changes per character with five to six
 costumes per fashion plate. These once belonged to the illustrator or
 editor. A while back, we discussed these plates on h-costume. I was having
 a problem scanning them because they are so large. I now own a scanner with
 a large enough bed to scan the plates. Hopefully, I will getting them
 online in the autumn.
 
 I am also bringing some hand-tinted stereoviews from the first stereoview
 London publisher. The photos are of weddings. A photo historian told me
 that these are the earliest known hand-tinted stereoviews that they have
 seen by this photographer. I am excited to see if this is true. 
 
 We are bringing an antique inlaid game table that I gave my husband for his
 birthday. It has a chess table and a roulette wheel. It is beautiful! We
 really don't care about the value, we just want to know how old it is.
 
 I am trying to decide what our 4th item will be. Maybe you all can help me
 decide. I need to know the following items value for insurance purposes.
 So let me know what you think that I should bring:
 1. Hand-beaded traditional Philippians dress (we discussed this dress on
 h-costume)
 2. An 1814 book titled Picturesque Representations of The Dress and Manners
 of the English. It is a rare book and has full page hand-tinted
 illustrations of the occupations with a corresponding page with the
 occupation description. You can see thumbnails of this book at:
 http://www.costumegallery.com/1814/British_Occupations/Laborers/ This is
 just the laborers section online. I own the entire book and haven't put all
 of them online yet.
 3. My Princess Diana auction dress books and photos. The books are
 autographed by fashion designer David Emanuel (Di's wedding dress) and some
 of the current dress owners. They autographed the books when I worked on
 the dresses For newbies to h-costume, I have worked with David and seven of
 the charity dresses. I don't know if these would really be classified as an
 antique.
 4. Delineator magazine collection spanning from 1880-1930.
 5. A 1900s template ad book that was used by the fashion advertising
 industry for fashion ads in magazines and newspapers. The ads in fashion
 magazines were originally templates and the publisher would insert the
 business info into the templates for publication.
 
 Let me know what you think my 4th item should be. We are leaving for DC
 Friday night.
 
 Penny Ladnier
 Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
 http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com
 14 websites of fashion, textiles,  costume history
 
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[h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Rickard, Patty
Comments?
Thanks,
Ceit

To: Marche of Alderford
Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions. What I 
would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am looking for is 
Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on the cover but the 
illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna
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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Lynn Downward
I'm not SCA, don't know anything about Irish Celts in the 6C except that
they were there.

Having said that, Tom Tierney's colors should be in a little girls bedroom,
all pastels, even when pastels are not the appropriate color. From my
research, his designs come from other research books or original information
(i.e., Godey's Ladies Magazine for Victorian dresses) and aren't too bad. I
just can't abide his color schemes.

LynnD

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote:

 Comments?
 Thanks,
 Ceit

 To: Marche of Alderford
 Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

 OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
 What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am looking
 for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on the cover
 but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
 PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna
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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread aquazoo

Maybe the Victorian is ok, but the 18thC is bad. Take Tom Tierney with a
huge bag of salt — if you think he did actual research for the period in
question, track down the sources. The more you rely on someone else's
creative efforts, the farther you get from the facts.

-Carol


 I'm not SCA, don't know anything about Irish Celts in the 6C except
 that they were there.

 Having said that, Tom Tierney's colors should be in a little girls
 bedroom, all pastels, even when pastels are not the appropriate color.
 From my research, his designs come from other research books or
 original information (i.e., Godey's Ladies Magazine for Victorian
 dresses) and aren't too bad. I just can't abide his color schemes.

 LynnD

 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Rickard, Patty
 ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote:

 Comments?
 Thanks,
 Ceit

 To: Marche of Alderford
 Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

 OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
 What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am
 looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style
 on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
 PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna

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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Alexandria Doyle
I think the same for the Elizabethan, Italian Renn and the medieval
periods that I've seen.  I have a couple just because, but I wouldn't
even use them for the let's get you in the general area and then look
for better examples type of search.  They seem rather outlandish in
most cases...

alex
who would only use these for halloween costumes when historical
accuracy is no where in the picture
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…



On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM,  aqua...@patriot.net wrote:

 Maybe the Victorian is ok, but the 18thC is bad. Take Tom Tierney with a
 huge bag of salt — if you think he did actual research for the period in
 question, track down the sources. The more you rely on someone else's
 creative efforts, the farther you get from the facts.

 -Carol


 I'm not SCA, don't know anything about Irish Celts in the 6C except
 that they were there.

 Having said that, Tom Tierney's colors should be in a little girls
 bedroom, all pastels, even when pastels are not the appropriate color.
 From my research, his designs come from other research books or
 original information (i.e., Godey's Ladies Magazine for Victorian
 dresses) and aren't too bad. I just can't abide his color schemes.

 LynnD

 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Rickard, Patty
 ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote:

 Comments?
 Thanks,
 Ceit

 To: Marche of Alderford
 Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

 OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
 What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am
 looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style
 on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
 PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna

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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Kimiko Small
I like Tom's drawings for coloring in planned styles (if he's got something 
close to what I want to make), and letting my daughter color in copies for fun. 
But for a resource? Nope, not so much, not even for 16th century fashions as 
he, 
like Norris, edits his drawings. I'd rather go to the source, which I know for 
Celts can be difficult to find, especially before the 16th century.

May I suggest Dress in Ireland by Mairead Dunlevy instead. One of the best 
books 
on Irish/Celtic clothing, and she does point to original sources for further 
research. There are a few other books, but I'd start there.

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OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions. What I 
would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am looking for is 
Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on the cover but the 
illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna


  
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Re: [h-cost] Antiques Roadshow

2010-08-19 Thread Patricia Dunham
I agree, the Diana stuff is probably your highest probability.  I'd vote for 
the 1814 book next, myself.  Have fun!!!

chimene

On Aug 18, 2010, at 11:12 PM, penny1a wrote:

 We are going to Antiques Roadshow Saturday in DC.  We have 9 am tickets.  I
 am so excited. We can bring four items. Is anyone from the list going? 
 
 I am bringing my collection of 23 original fashion plates of French plays
 from the late 1890s-1903.  Some are Sarah Bernhardt plays.  The
 illustrations show the costume changes per character with five to six
 costumes per fashion plate.  These once belonged to the illustrator or
 editor.  A while back, we discussed these plates on h-costume.  I was having
 a problem scanning them because they are so large.  I now own a scanner with
 a large enough bed to scan the plates.  Hopefully, I will getting them
 online in the autumn.
 
 I am also bringing some hand-tinted stereoviews from the first stereoview
 London publisher.  The photos are of weddings.  A photo historian told me
 that these are the earliest known hand-tinted stereoviews that they have
 seen by this photographer.  I am excited to see if this is true. 
 
 We are bringing an antique inlaid game table that I gave my husband for his
 birthday.  It has a chess table and a roulette wheel.  It is beautiful!  We
 really don't care about the value, we just want to know how old it is.
 
 I am trying to decide what our 4th item will be.  Maybe you all can help me
 decide.  I need to know the following items value for insurance purposes.
 So let me know what you think that I should bring:
 1. Hand-beaded traditional Philippians dress (we discussed this dress on
 h-costume)
 2. An 1814 book titled Picturesque Representations of The Dress and Manners
 of the English.  It is a rare book and has full page hand-tinted
 illustrations of the occupations with a corresponding page with the
 occupation description.  You can see thumbnails of this book at:
 http://www.costumegallery.com/1814/British_Occupations/Laborers/  This is
 just the laborers section online.  I own the entire book and haven't put all
 of them online yet.
 3. My Princess Diana auction dress books and photos.  The books are
 autographed by fashion designer David Emanuel (Di's wedding dress) and some
 of the current dress owners.  They autographed the books when I worked on
 the dresses  For newbies to h-costume, I have worked with David and seven of
 the charity dresses. I don't know if these would really be classified as an
 antique.
 4. Delineator magazine collection spanning from 1880-1930.
 5. A 1900s template ad book that was used by the fashion advertising
 industry for fashion ads in magazines and newspapers.  The ads in fashion
 magazines were originally templates and the publisher would insert the
 business info into the templates for publication.
 
 Let me know what you think my 4th item should be. We are leaving for DC
 Friday night.
 
 Penny Ladnier
 Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
 http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com
 14 websites of fashion, textiles,  costume history
 
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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Patricia Dunham
I just looked up his webpage... http://www.tomtierney.com/index.htm  He's in 
his 80's by now, majority of his career he was a fashion artist for various 
large east coast department stores (in the 50s-70s).  The paper doll books were 
a late development.  

There's nothing in his bio that indicates any experience with academia, 
archaeology, costume history, history or even theatrical costume design.

A quick scan of the covers of his works (which are voluminous!) -- very 
colorful, highly decorated, make Iris Brooke look like a paragon of research!  
He gets some of the silhouettes and main lines right, but the colors and 
patterns he fills in with are dizzying.  

chimene

On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Alexandria Doyle wrote:

 I think the same for the Elizabethan, Italian Renn and the medieval
 periods that I've seen.  I have a couple just because, but I wouldn't
 even use them for the let's get you in the general area and then look
 for better examples type of search.  They seem rather outlandish in
 most cases...
 
 alex
 who would only use these for halloween costumes when historical
 accuracy is no where in the picture
 So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…
 
 
 
 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM,  aqua...@patriot.net wrote:
 
 Maybe the Victorian is ok, but the 18thC is bad. Take Tom Tierney with a
 huge bag of salt — if you think he did actual research for the period in
 question, track down the sources. The more you rely on someone else's
 creative efforts, the farther you get from the facts.
 
 
 I'm not SCA, don't know anything about Irish Celts in the 6C except
 that they were there.
 
 Having said that, Tom Tierney's colors should be in a little girls
 bedroom, all pastels, even when pastels are not the appropriate color.
 From my research, his designs come from other research books or
 original information (i.e., Godey's Ladies Magazine for Victorian
 dresses) and aren't too bad. I just can't abide his color schemes.
 
 
 
 OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
 What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am
 looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style
 on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
 PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna


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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Emily Gilbert
Oh, dear!  I have his Empire Fashions coloring book... I guess I should 
take it less seriously as a source of information.  


Emily


Patricia Dunham wrote:
I just looked up his webpage... http://www.tomtierney.com/index.htm  He's in his 80's by now, majority of his career he was a fashion artist for various large east coast department stores (in the 50s-70s).  The paper doll books were a late development.  


There's nothing in his bio that indicates any experience with academia, 
archaeology, costume history, history or even theatrical costume design.

A quick scan of the covers of his works (which are voluminous!) -- very colorful, highly decorated, make Iris Brooke look like a paragon of research!  He gets some of the silhouettes and main lines right, but the colors and patterns he fills in with are dizzying.  


chimene

On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Alexandria Doyle wrote:

  

I think the same for the Elizabethan, Italian Renn and the medieval
periods that I've seen.  I have a couple just because, but I wouldn't
even use them for the let's get you in the general area and then look
for better examples type of search.  They seem rather outlandish in
most cases...

alex
who would only use these for halloween costumes when historical
accuracy is no where in the picture
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…



On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM,  aqua...@patriot.net wrote:


Maybe the Victorian is ok, but the 18thC is bad. Take Tom Tierney with a
huge bag of salt — if you think he did actual research for the period in
question, track down the sources. The more you rely on someone else's
creative efforts, the farther you get from the facts.


  

I'm not SCA, don't know anything about Irish Celts in the 6C except
that they were there.

Having said that, Tom Tierney's colors should be in a little girls
bedroom, all pastels, even when pastels are not the appropriate color.
From my research, his designs come from other research books or
original information (i.e., Godey's Ladies Magazine for Victorian
dresses) and aren't too bad. I just can't abide his color schemes.



OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am
looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style
on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna
  



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Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Thursday 19 August 2010 1:46:44 pm Rickard, Patty wrote:
 Comments?
 Thanks,
 Ceit
 
 To: Marche of Alderford
 Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!
 
 OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions.
  What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am
  looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on
  the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C.
  PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna

I wouldn't trust Tierney as far as I could throw him.  His books never cite 
the sources of the illustrations he redraws (assuming he has redrawn in all 
cases instead of making something up based upon a written description, which I 
wouldn't bet against).  He did a book on later medieval fashion where he 
misintreprets the long bead string worn by a woman in the Tres Riches Heures 
as a transparent fabric with a beaded edge.


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Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com

No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they 
sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell

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Re: [h-cost] Who gives a damn about Scarlett's gowns?

2010-08-19 Thread albertcat



The curtain dress and the red dress are my two favorites.






Maestro Walter Plunket rarely designs a clunker, no? I love the wedding dress 
but you don't see much of it in the film.


Of the lesser known gowns I love are the red dress she wears after she marries 
Frank Kennedy and writes the check for the taxes on Tara. And the black and 
white bustle-esque gown with the cut out leaves on the bell sleeves she wears 
when Rhett and she are walking the baby. Or is that when she's opening presents 
after the honeymoon? I forget. It's been a while since I've seen the film.


Oh oh oh and the one with plaid and fringe she wears in the lumber mill 
hiring the convicts. And of course the blue rape dress with all the soutache.




Then there's Raintree County
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[h-cost] Tres Riches sheer? FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread otsisto
Could you direct me to an online pic of this? I have come across through
browsing some 1400s Italian paintings with sheer material layer over fabric
of the over gown. Most were by the same artist but one w/embroidery by
another artist from an earlier period.
All but one are allegorical and the embroidered I think was a saint but I
don't think the way these are painted that it is a whimsical fantasy of the
artist(s).

De

-Original Message-
(snip) He did a book on later medieval fashion where he
misintreprets the long bead string worn by a woman in the Tres Riches Heures
as a transparent fabric with a beaded edge.
--

Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com


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Re: [h-cost] Tres Riches sheer? FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!

2010-08-19 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Thursday 19 August 2010 11:20:24 pm otsisto wrote:
 Could you direct me to an online pic of this? I have come across through
 browsing some 1400s Italian paintings with sheer material layer over fabric
 of the over gown. Most were by the same artist but one w/embroidery by
 another artist from an earlier period.

 [snip]

Problem is that the one in question is *not* depicted that way.  I should be 
able to find this one on line, let's see now.

There's a ton of places to find it but in most the image cannot be zoomed very 
large.

This one isn't too bad, and it can be zoomed up a bit:

http://www.thebeckoning.com/art/limbourg/limbourg-apr.jpg

This isn't zoomable but is a bit better:

http://0.tqn.com/d/historymedren/1/0/-/H/2/april.jpg

Ah, the Brittanica on line has come through for me with an image that can be 
made both large and zoomable--and you can zoom a particular area.  I've used 
Tinyurl on this link because the URL is very large:

http://tinyurl.com/28zmhhz


The image is the miniature for April and the woman of whose costume I spoke 
is the fifth person in from the left-hand edge of the picture.  She is wearing 
a light blue houppelande with a dark blue pattern and a wide, white (perhaps 
fur?) hem, a gold under dress, and a large black fur hat.  The beads in 
question are red and draped over her right shoulder; they finish with a gold-
colored tassel low on her left side.

-- 

Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com

No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they 
sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell

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[h-cost] Tom Tierney

2010-08-19 Thread Martha Kelly
Once upon a time I was in the special collections room at FIT doing some
research and there was an elderly gentleman nearby similarly involved.  We
left together when the library closed and we fell into conversation.  I
asked what he was working on.  Oh, he said, I do paper dolls.  You mean
like Tom Tierney?  I AM Tom Tierney!  He seemed genuinely delighted that
I knew who he was. I'm sure I said something noncommittal like, Of COURSE I
know you.  So it goes to show that it's not just the research, but what you
decide to do with it.. 


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[h-cost] HELP!

2010-08-19 Thread penny1a
I am having trouble receiving email from h-costume for the past month. Can
someone please forward this to Eliza or please send me privately her email
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