Re: [h-cost] Costume events/groups in Sacramento

[Susan Data-Samak]

Fran,

Congrats on your new home with all the trimmings.

Have you checked the local historical society for historic homes/museums?

About 15 years ago, I attended an open house at a local historic house/museum. 
Of all the beautiful artifacts, I stumbled on a dress form wearing a paper 
dress. Upon inspection, it was actually a life sized “invitation” to join a 
group of women who acted as living props for the museum’s open houses. I 
inquired and as a result, the sewing, socializing and modeling are still a part 
of my life. The ladies are so helpful and supportive of any/all sewing 
projects, historically based or not.

Susan
NJ



> On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:54 PM, Lavolta Press  wrote:
> 
> My husband and I bought a huge, lovely old Colonial Revival house in 
> Sacramento. We've been doing a lot of remodeling, and sometimes I think it 
> will never end. Currently we're simultaneously working on remodeling a 
> half-bath, extending the irrigation (the plot is 1.8 landscaped acres), and 
> putting up some exterior Arts & Crafts lighting. Among many smaller projects. 
> I have been reorganizing all my sewing stuff, which considering there are few 
> things I hate more than tidying, is quite painful. But!  Someday we will be 
> done.
> 
> I've been looking around on the net. As far as I can tell very little is 
> going on here in terms of costuming, historic reenactment, etc. That's hard 
> to believe, considering Sacramento is a reasonably large and sophisticated 
> city. I'm sure I'm missing something. There must be local groups who don't 
> have much of an Internet presence. Can anyone who lives in this area tell me 
> more?
> 
> Au rest, if anyone is thinking of moving out of the SF Bay Area, Sacramento 
> has much less expensive housing. Pricewise, our house here was pretty much a 
> direct trade for what we were paid for an undistinguished 2-bedroom, 
> 1-bathroom house in the Sunset district of San Francisco, complete with 
> ancient galvanized plumbing and gravity furnace. This area has mature trees 
> everywhere--all the streets, everybody's lawns, shopping malls, you name it. 
> It's really lovely.  We love the climate (no more fog!), and there's almost 
> no traffic (compared to SF). You can get almost anywhere, including the 
> suburbs, in 10-30 minutes. It's just great.
> 
> So, if anyone has any information on what to do here I'd be grateful.
> 
> Fran
> 
> Lavolta Press
> 
> Books on making historic clothing
> 
> www.lavoltapress.com
> 
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Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?

[Susan Data-Samak]

I'm here, too, but not riding my current horse sidesaddle, which was the reason 
I joined : to learn about correct ways to reproduce historical riding habits.

Susan



On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

> I'm still here too. I don't do much sewing but am still involved in
> historical reenactment.
> 
> Kate Bunting
> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond <
> ca...@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/17/2015 09:38 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been getting the monthly reminders from indra.com, but I have to
>>> admit I don't read them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also have something to share--this is based on the paper I gave at the
>>> Jane Austen Society of North America's annual general meeting in Louisville
>>> in October.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol36no1/wass.html
>>> 
>>> 
>> Thanks for the URL, Ann!
>> 
>> My attempt to respond to the "is the list still going" post also drew a
>> rejection message.  Hopefully this will get through.
>> 
>> --
>> Catherine Olanich Raymond
>> ca...@thyrsus.com
>> (610) 805-9542
>> 
>> "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn."
>> Benjamin Franklin
>> 
>> 
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Re: [h-cost] Work attire question, 1916-1920

[Susan Data-Samak]

I tried again, and it worked.  Thanks.


On Aug 18, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Cin wrote:

> The link works fine for me.
> I cannot answer about Boeing or about being around in the 1920s, but oddly
> I do have experience rib-stitching.  My father restored 3 Piper Cubs and an
> Aeronca Champ, all vintage 40s airplanes that are "rag-wings".  Early
> planes have sewn fabric skins that are later coated with special paints.
> At minute 0:44  in the video, you can see ladies stitching the fabric to
> the ribs & struts of the airplane wing.  Each stitch catches the fabric to
> the wing structure to keep it from flapping and creates a smooth
> lightweight wing. At  1:15 in the video you see another lady tying a knot
> for a finished stitch.  Each stitch is tied off & is separate from the
> next.  The process is pretty neat and tidy, and certainly could have been
> done in the clothing shown without any more mishap than a bit of dust.
> 
> --cin
> Cynthia Barnes
> cinbar...@gmail.com
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Franchesca Havas <
> franchesca.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings!
>> 
>> In this short video we see seamstresses working on heavy canvas for
>> airplane wings. The question that was asked today was if the attire
>> worn by the seamstresses normal work attire or are they dressing up
>> for the filming of their work.
>> 
>> http://www.boeing.com/history/video-series/index.page#.VdNbytV1emk.mailto
>> 
>> Videos@Boeing: Laying the fabric: The Boeing seamstresses Laying the
>> fabric: The Boeing seamstresses
>> Discover the role Boeing seamstresses played in the early days of
>> company and the pioneering spirit they stitched in history in the
>> first installment of “The Boeing Archives Presents."
>> 
>> Thanks! :)
>> Franchesca
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Re: [h-cost] Work attire question, 1916-1920

[Susan Data-Samak]

Franchesca,  

This link doesn't work for me. I get the title but no story underneath.

Susan



On Aug 18, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Franchesca Havas wrote:

> Greetings!
> 
> In this short video we see seamstresses working on heavy canvas for
> airplane wings. The question that was asked today was if the attire
> worn by the seamstresses normal work attire or are they dressing up
> for the filming of their work.
> 
> http://www.boeing.com/history/video-series/index.page#.VdNbytV1emk.mailto
> 
> Videos@Boeing: Laying the fabric: The Boeing seamstresses Laying the
> fabric: The Boeing seamstresses
> Discover the role Boeing seamstresses played in the early days of
> company and the pioneering spirit they stitched in history in the
> first installment of “The Boeing Archives Presents."
> 
> Thanks! :)
> Franchesca
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Re: [h-cost] Lincoln Funeral Reenactment

[Susan Data-Samak]

> They even have a perfect replica if the
> hearse! 

Is this the one made on the TV show "Museum Men"?

Susan



On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Terry wrote:

> Please let us know how it goes.  It looks to be a great experience.
> 
> Terry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
> Behalf Of cc2010m...@cs.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:50 PM
> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
> Subject: [h-cost] Lincoln Funeral Reenactment
> 
> Hello,
>I found out about this recently. They are doing a reenactment of
> Lincoln's funeral in Springfield, Illinois the first weekend in May. People
> can join the mourners as long as they approve your outfit, and you pass a
> security check. That is because President Obama and other high ranking
> political people will be there. They even have a perfect replica if the
> hearse! 
>For me, I am going to try to go, even as a spectator. It is about two
> weeks before Costume-Con and I only have a limited amount of money.
>Henry W. Osier
>Milwaukee, WI
>(Insert one of my many titles here)
> 
> http://lincolnfuneraltrain.org/
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Re: [h-cost] Princess Diana Evening Gown Sold

[Susan Data-Samak]

Congratulations!


On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote:

> The Princess Diana dress that I worked with for five years sold at auction
> yesterday for $140,000 to a museum. I wonder which museum purchased it.  
> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/12/fairytale-princess-diana-d
> ress-sold-for-14/
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517733/Princess-Dianas-fairytale-dr
> ess-sells-100k-unknown-buyer.html
> 
> Fontaine Minor, the previous dress owner and my former client, donated the
> auction proceeds to the Princess Diana Charities. I was sitting on pins and
> needles until I found out that a museum purchased it.  I was so worried that
> a private individual would purchase it and not provide proper care to the
> dress.  I kept having nightmares of someone wearing it to a rodeo like one
> of the other Diana dress owners did.  A museum getting it makes me feel like
> a good ending to a chapter in my life.
> 
> Penny Ladnier, Owner
> The Costume Gallery Websites
> www.costumegallery.com
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery 
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Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

[Susan Data-Samak]

Maggie said :



Ladies rode their horses "to hounds" (fox hunting) which is a vigorous 
activity.  They did this sidesaddle.  I have friends who do this, today.  Their 
corsets were cut for the job: meaning the hip portion was curved to accommodate 
the position of the body riding sidesaddle and/or elastic material was inserted 
for ease of motion. I have "elasticated panels" in my own corset for riding my 
horse astride (not sidesaddle) in parades. As with anything, it takes practice 
to adjust the corset for comfort yet still get the fashionable "line" of the 
period.

A quick look on google found this: 
http://ridingaside.blogspot.com/2011/06/karen-wright.html  scroll down and read 
her description of new riding corset construction.

Susan


On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:04 AM, Maggie Koenig wrote:

> I've costumed singers and dancers before and if you take their chest 
> measurements with them at rest and them at a full breath there can be a 
> rather large difference. Their corsets are likely made for a resting breath 
> measurement so it is restricting them from taking as deep a breath as they 
> are used to when they play. Actual performers in the Victorian era were 
> corseted their entire lives and were trained to get the needed deep breaths 
> while corseted. 
> 
> What you will need to do is either find a dress style that can work without 
> the corset or you will want to create a corset that incorporates elastic 
> panels and/or elastic instead of a woven lacing string. The elastic will 
> stretch as they breath and move allowing them their full range. 
> 
> Maggie Koenig
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I get told by musicians that they can't breathe - wind players and singers
>> can't get enough breath.
>> Cheers,
>> Aylwen
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 October 2013 16:42, Kim Baird  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's perfectly possible to sit in a Victorian corset. Victorians did it all
>>> the time. It does have to fit correctly, however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:55 PM
>>> To: Historical Costume
>>> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking about Victorian fashion here. Are there any pictures of women
>>> sitting down playing music? I've seen women corsetted when standing up
>>> playing the violin, but how did they manage playing the piano? Or are my
>>> musicians complaining too much?
>>> I'm right at the beginning in my research so far.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Aylwen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21 October 2013 15:48, Elizabeth Jones
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Aylwen,
 What have you tried so far? If we know what's already been tried there
 won't need to be any re-inventing of the wheel. For anything pre-1600
 you are fairly safe to skip boning for anyone who isn't extremely high
 fashion (and musicians paid to perform for a ball definitely weren't
 high fashion) Elizabeth
 
 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
  wrote:
> Dear Friends
> Our dance group prides itself on wearing historically correct gowns
> and undergarments for our dance performances, but it is not
> comfortable for
 our
> pianist and other musicians. I am exploring ways I can bone the
> bodices
 of
> the gowns and still give sitting-down musicians breathing space -
> but
 still
> have the garments look close-to-accurate. Can anyone offer me any
>>> advice?
> We costume from 1450 through to 1900 - all styles along the way.
> Many thanks,
> Aylwen
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

[Susan Data-Samak]

A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the "extras" 
in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual re-enactors. The 
"star" usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and they movie makers give 
in to their vanity.

I recall a "B" ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a Civil 
War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was 1980's 
style. Spoiled the "effect" for me.

Susan
NJ


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

> Another TV costume drama question...
> In the current BBC series "Peaky Blinders" (about a criminal gang in
> Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her shoulder-length
> hair loose.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
> This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
> wouldn't women have put their hair up?
> 
> Kate Bunting
> Retired librarian & 17th century reenactor
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