[h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Kate Bunting
Another TV costume drama question...
In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her shoulder-length
hair loose.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
wouldn't women have put their hair up?

Kate Bunting
Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Wendi Dunlap

(delurking)

It strikes me as looking out of place, too. I found a scrapbook from 
1917 in a thrift store once. The book was just FULL of film star photos. 
You can see some of them here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/litlnemo/sets/72157615210203836/

For the most part when hair is shown loose and long it is curled. Side 
parts and bangs also seem particularly common.


In the photos here her hair seems really almost unstyled at all!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/Peaky-Blinders-Fighting-to-play-Grace

In the bottom photo it almost looks like they tried to curl it, but the 
details just don't look period to me. That long hair with a center part 
with no fringe and no curls just doesn't show up in my 1917 pics -- I 
don't think 1919 was that much different, but I suppose it could have been.


W

Kate Bunting wrote:

Another TV costume drama question...
In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her shoulder-length
hair loose.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
wouldn't women have put their hair up?

Kate Bunting
Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Susan Data-Samak
A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the extras 
in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual re-enactors. The 
star usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and they movie makers give 
in to their vanity.

I recall a B ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a Civil 
War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was 1980's 
style. Spoiled the effect for me.

Susan
NJ


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

 Another TV costume drama question...
 In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
 Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her shoulder-length
 hair loose.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
 This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
 wouldn't women have put their hair up?
 
 Kate Bunting
 Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Sharon Collier
Look at Doctor Zhivago. Julie Christie's hair is pure 1960's, which spoils
the look.  
Sharon C.

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A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the
extras in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual
re-enactors. The star usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and
they movie makers give in to their vanity.

I recall a B ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a
Civil War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was
1980's style. Spoiled the effect for me.

Susan
NJ


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

 Another TV costume drama question...
 In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in 
 Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her 
 shoulder-length hair loose.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
 This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the 
 '20s, wouldn't women have put their hair up?
 
 Kate Bunting
 Retired librarian  17th century reenactor 
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A.
The make-up of the principals is also modern. And therefore jarring.

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Sharon Collier [sha...@collierfam.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

Look at Doctor Zhivago. Julie Christie's hair is pure 1960's, which spoils
the look.
Sharon C.

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Susan Data-Samak
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:11 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the
extras in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual
re-enactors. The star usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and
they movie makers give in to their vanity.

I recall a B ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a
Civil War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was
1980's style. Spoiled the effect for me.

Susan
NJ


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

 Another TV costume drama question...
 In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
 Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her
 shoulder-length hair loose.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
 This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the
 '20s, wouldn't women have put their hair up?

 Kate Bunting
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Bertani
Occasionally it's the other way around.  I've seen a still from (I think
Elizabeth and Essex) with Bette Davis with very Elizebethan hair while
her ladies in waiting all have 1930's hairstyles.

-- Chris Bertani
www.goblinrevolution.org/costumes


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Susan Data-Samak pasov...@aol.com wrote:

 A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the
 extras in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual
 re-enactors. The star usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and
 they movie makers give in to their vanity.

 I recall a B ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a
 Civil War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was
 1980's style. Spoiled the effect for me.

 Susan
 NJ


 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

  Another TV costume drama question...
  In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
  Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her
 shoulder-length
  hair loose.
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
  This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
  wouldn't women have put their hair up?
 
  Kate Bunting
  Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
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Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

2013-10-03 Thread Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A.
Check out her make-up though. Pure cafe society. You are right about her hair, 
though -- bad silhouette on her dresses, too.

From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Chris Bertani [chris...@goblinrevolution.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:22 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

Occasionally it's the other way around.  I've seen a still from (I think
Elizabeth and Essex) with Bette Davis with very Elizebethan hair while
her ladies in waiting all have 1930's hairstyles.

-- Chris Bertani
www.goblinrevolution.org/costumes


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Susan Data-Samak pasov...@aol.com wrote:

 A friend who has worked in costumed film pieces told me to look at the
 extras in a film to see authenticity.  The extras are often actual
 re-enactors. The star usually refuses to wear authentic hairstyles and
 they movie makers give in to their vanity.

 I recall a B ( or maybe C) budget movie where Angie Dickinson played a
 Civil War woman.  Her clothing was gorgeous and authentic but her hair was
 1980's style. Spoiled the effect for me.

 Susan
 NJ


 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Kate Bunting wrote:

  Another TV costume drama question...
  In the current BBC series Peaky Blinders (about a criminal gang in
  Birmingham post-WW1) a prominent female character wears her
 shoulder-length
  hair loose.
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fj945
  This looks far too modern to me. Before short styles came in in the '20s,
  wouldn't women have put their hair up?
 
  Kate Bunting
  Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
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