Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany orQueen Victoria
When I taught history of costume, many years ago, I remember reading the occasional reference to a white wedding dress for a royal/noble bride, supposedly because it was difficult to bleach silk to a pure white color--hence it was expensive and conferred status. Let us also remember that white was very popular for both day and evening wear during the early 19th century, so a bride's white dress might indeed be one she continued to wear long past the wedding. Even after Victoria, brides in the mid- to late- 19th century often chose colors, and, of course, in the 20th century, there were many instances of brides (often war brides) wearing colored suits to be married in. So saying so and so started a trend might be over-simplifying, but what does one expect from a newspaper article? Ann Wass In a message dated 5/10/2011 4:53:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, otsi...@socket.net writes: Would love their source for their information as some of it conflicts a little with what I have heard. Also it is broad brushing info. If you are only using Anne and Vicky as the comparison it would be Victoria. Victoria was a trendsetter due to wider media spread. This sight is closer to what I have heard but still no docs. http://hibiscus-sinensis.com/regency/weddingdress.htm What i find annoying is that every site repeats the Anne of Brittany marrying in a white gown but I can not find a source that verifies it. Most pics. have her in gold, black or pink/red. Is there a written source? De -Original Message- I am sorry for the previous URL... this is better: http://tinyurl.com/3c98gfr Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany orQueen Victoria
In 1913, my not-so-rich farm bride grandmother wore dove gray for her wedding. Then sob she _cut_it_up to make my father's first suit! In 1943, my mother wore a plain suit (whose color she never told me!) for her wartime wedding. Alas. We all missed the chance to wear something spectacular. I wore a simple white dress, not even floor length. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On May 10, 2011, at 2:19 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Even after Victoria, brides in the mid- to late- 19th century often chose colors, and, of course, in the 20th century, there were many instances of brides (often war brides) wearing colored suits to be married in. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany orQueen Victoria
If Anne?of Britanny chose White for her wedding, I have seen no further historical referrences about other women choosing the color for their ceremony?...hence, no vogue?of white having any cache for a proper wedding ceremony. At that date (Anne's) weddings were probably no so public...except for royalty. What ever color or fabric, it would have had cost and politics pointing the way toward correctness. By the time of Victoria there were additional psychological and moral, symbolic reasons behind Her choices to have a white wedding.??This choice was the veiled motivation for the idea of a white wedding for many decades hence.?Royal brides for a long time before V. chose (or were garbed) in fabled fabrics of gold or silver as a declaration of wealth and power. Her choice put the emphasis on virginity and respectabilty...something that women of almost any class standard could hope to emmulate. White, and Lace were? more in the province of people of means, but the principle could be shared. The white dress, however harkens back to a 'shift' that was owned by most women-high or low, as the transition garment between her house and her husband's home...___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany orQueen Victoria
As always, h-costume continues to add punctuation that is not in th original. Sigh! -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu Sent 5/10/2011 8:34:47 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany orQueen VictoriaIf Anne?of Britanny chose White for her wedding, I have seen no further historical referrences about other women choosing the color for their ceremony?...hence, no vogue?of white having any cache for a proper wedding ceremony. At that date (Anne's) weddings were probably no so public...except for royalty. What ever color or fabric, it would have had cost and politics pointing the way toward correctness. By the time of Victoria there were additional psychological and moral, symbolic reasons behind Her choices to have a white wedding.??This choice was the veiled motivation for the idea of a white wedding for many decades hence.?Royal brides for a long time before V. chose (or were garbed) in fabled fabrics of gold or silver as a declaration of wealth and power. Her choice put the emphasis on virginity and respectabilty...something that women of almost any class standard could hope to emmulate. White, and Lace were? more in the province of people of means, but the principle could be shared. The white dress, however harkens back to a 'shift' that was owned by most women-high or low, as the transition garment between her house and her husband's home... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
