Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-15 Thread Tania Gruning
I would guess not, since the top of womens costume seems to be a shirt with a 
1/4 bra thing, that pamela anderson is fond of, so that would definitely not go 
well with the parents and the local vicars ;-)
Tania

Margo Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Paula Praxis wrote:


 This a discussion that benefits all era of costume.  Agreed that  
 not all on this list work in theater but many of us do and to hear  
 from others about your experiences is great. I agree the modern  
 period is the most difficult to design for. I much  prefer period  
 plays.  however there are some times that are more difficult than  
 others.  I designed a play set in ancient Egypt.  I love archeology  
 and am aware that slaves in the real' ancient Egypt worked naked -  
 this didn't go over too well with my director - so I let her have  
 her way and designed slave costumes for the ensemble.

I'm helping with costumes for my 6th grader's class play,  which is  
set in Minoan era Crete.  Not surprisingly,  the teacher doesn't want  
historically accurate costumes.  We're putting them in chitons. :)

Margo
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[h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread cheryldee
I had a difficult situation with a play I designed last summer.? The 
director didn't have much of a clue what he wanted before the rehearsal 
process started but he did have one conceptual concept he wanted 
visualized by the costumes and I agreed it would be a good one, so I 
designed the show around that.? The play only had 2 actors, one male, 
one female (The Last Five Years) and when rehearsals started, they, 
especially the woman, started suggesting costume ideas.? At that point, 
the director more or less submitted to their-mainly her--ideas and my 
ideas kind of flew out the window.? It was a shopped show and one 
weekend the woman even went to a store and bought some things she 
liked, to bring back and show me.? I was getting rather frustrated and 
disappointed by then but tried to go with the flow and I actually did 
appreciate their input, since they knew more about their characters 
than I did through rehearsing their parts.??? I guess I've been in the 
business enough by now to know do this, although it would have been 
impossible if the costumes had been built.


This is why I continue to maintain that contemporary show are the most 
difficult to design.? Many cast members think they have a better idea than the 
designer.? And?many directors, wanting to please the actors in order to get the 
best possible performance out of them, will let the actors dictate to the 
designer what they want.? Which is why research and renderings are extremely 
valuable from the beginning of the process.? So it doesn't turn into He said, 
she said and one can produce the original ideas which were agreed on.? I hope 
we're not boring the non-costume designers on this list.


Cheryl Odom
College of Santa Fe
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Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread 00217146
 I hope we're not boring the non-costume designers on  this list.

I, for one, am finding it fascinating, and a reminder of why I didn't  
persue theatre after high school.

Emma


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Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread Lynn Downward
I too find this conversation interesting as it's part of theater I know
nothing about. My daughter is in high school but has done some semi-legit
theater and hopes to pursue it as a career. I don't act except as a
recreationist and I make my own costumes under approval of a costume
director. However, I've helped others with their community theater and have
heard the stories. It seems that a contract really is the way to go.

Lynn

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I hope we're not boring the non-costume designers on  this list.

 I, for one, am finding it fascinating, and a reminder of why I didn't
 persue theatre after high school.

 Emma


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Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread Margo Anderson

On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Paula Praxis wrote:


 This a discussion that benefits all era of costume.  Agreed that  
 not all on this list work in theater but many of us do and to hear  
 from others about your experiences is great. I agree the modern  
 period is the most difficult to design for. I much  prefer period  
 plays.  however there are some times that are more difficult than  
 others.  I designed a play set in ancient Egypt.  I love archeology  
 and am aware that slaves in the real' ancient Egypt worked naked -  
 this didn't go over too well with my director - so I let her have  
 her way and designed slave costumes for the ensemble.

I'm helping with costumes for my 6th grader's class play,  which is  
set in Minoan era Crete.  Not surprisingly,  the teacher doesn't want  
historically accurate costumes.  We're putting them in chitons. :)

Margo
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Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 4/14/2008 3:54:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I agree  the modern period is the most difficult to design for. I much  
prefer  period plays. 


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Yes! Modern dress is difficult, not only because any actor or actress  thinks 
she can just go buy something, but also because everyone in the audience  
[and cast] knows all about the clothes and different garments speak huge  
volumes 
when they are new and fresh in everyone's minds. The wrong brand of  sneakers 
or jeans can ruin an effect. Of course these two aspects the buying  and 
the newnessare related.



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[h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread Julie

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This a discussion that benefits all era of costume.  Agreed that  
  not all on this list work in theater but many of us do and to hear  
  from others about your experiences is great. I agree the modern  
  period is the most difficult to design for. I much  prefer period  
  plays.  however there are some times that are more difficult than  
  others.  I designed a play set in ancient Egypt.  I love archeology  
  and am aware that slaves in the real' ancient Egypt worked naked -  
  this didn't go over too well with my director - so I let her have  
  her way and designed slave costumes for the ensemble.
 
 I'm helping with costumes for my 6th grader's class play,  which is  
 set in Minoan era Crete.  Not surprisingly,  the teacher doesn't want  
 historically accurate costumes.  We're putting them in chitons. :)
 
 Margo

Snicker, giggle.  What, you mean they didn't want bare 6th grader boobies for 
their play?
Julie in San Diego
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Re: [h-cost] Director-designer professional standards

2008-04-14 Thread Jean Waddie
Margo Anderson wrote:
 On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Paula Praxis wrote:

   
 This a discussion that benefits all era of costume.  Agreed that  
 not all on this list work in theater but many of us do and to hear  
 from others about your experiences is great. I agree the modern  
 period is the most difficult to design for. I much  prefer period  
 plays.  however there are some times that are more difficult than  
 others.  I designed a play set in ancient Egypt.  I love archeology  
 and am aware that slaves in the real' ancient Egypt worked naked -  
 this didn't go over too well with my director - so I let her have  
 her way and designed slave costumes for the ensemble.
 

 I'm helping with costumes for my 6th grader's class play,  which is  
 set in Minoan era Crete.  Not surprisingly,  the teacher doesn't want  
 historically accurate costumes.  We're putting them in chitons. :)

 Margo
   
I went to a costume party as Ariadne when I was about 15 - my friends
and I were all studying classics and reading Mary Renault... I did my
best to do the skirt and a high, pointy belt (a bit Wonder Woman,
really!) with a lined but gauzy bodice.  It kind of gave the idea
without giving anything away.

When we visited Plimoth Plantation, I spoke to one of the Native
American interpreters about how what she was wearing, as modern
traditional costume, compared with what her predecessors would have
worn in period.  Her response was along the lines of I'm way
overdressed.  Just another example of modern sensibilities getting in
the way of accuracy - tut tut! ;-)

Jean


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